| 00:26.57 | RobNC | anyone know how to approve the sites on the nslu2-linux wiki? |
| 00:28.43 | RobNC | Specifically, if anyone could please approve these sites: http://www.cygwin.com and http://www.neocom.ca/forum/index.php that would be great. |
| 00:29.16 | NAiL | what page are they linked from? |
| 00:30.50 | RobNC | Some wiki pages I'm editing: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/SlugImage and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/FatSlug |
| 00:32.48 | NAiL | done |
| 00:33.19 | RobNC | Thanks! |
| 01:02.17 | RobNC | anyone know who maintains this page: http://wiki.buici.com/wiki/NSLU2_Memory_Expansion_--_Fat_Slug |
| 01:07.49 | NAiL | beewoolie, I guess |
| 01:07.54 | NAiL | but he's not around very often |
| 01:09.28 | NAiL | Anything you wonder about? |
| 01:09.37 | NAiL | It's a wiki, so it should be possible to edit? |
| 01:10.06 | RobNC | NAiL: thanks... cannot edit - says requires an account to set up. No place to even set up an account!! :-) |
| 01:13.03 | RobNC | I need to work with Marc in regards to APEX bootloader, but he's hard to get hold of apparently. |
| 01:13.47 | NAiL | Marc == beewolie, IIRC |
| 01:13.56 | NAiL | and yes, he's hard to get a hold of ;) |
| 01:14.27 | RobNC | Oh ok gotcha... |
| 01:15.01 | RobNC | I have a 256MiB FatSlug, and with new Apex, can't get 256MB to work correctly (even though APEX 1.4.17 detects it just fine) |
| 01:15.37 | RobNC | Trying not to recompile redboot (b/c most ppl don't want to replace their bootloader, and I agree with Rod on the reasoning) |
| 01:16.37 | NAiL | yeah |
| 01:16.49 | NAiL | I've bricked one device messing with the bootloader |
| 01:17.04 | RobNC | yep, same here... (wife interrupted me). JTAG saved it tho |
| 01:17.34 | NAiL | I've got a device that doesn't have JTAG. So my only hope is to replace the flash chip now |
| 01:18.36 | NAiL | but that requires getting hold of someone that has equipment to flash tsop56 chips |
| 01:18.39 | RobNC | crap! That stinks... I tried that too (before JTAG) and it still didn't boot but I believe that was because when I read the flash, it was reading in LE mode, and programmer was BE mode. |
| 01:18.55 | NAiL | serious? |
| 01:20.04 | RobNC | we have a BPMicro 1400. My first attempt at flashing the firmware failed, I am guessing b/c when I copied the /dev/mtd* I was using a LE kernel, and the programmer was in BE mode (and I ignored the switch for LE mode) |
| 01:20.49 | RobNC | Problem tho is that the SMT pads are very very sensitive and I wouldn't think you could remove the flash more than a few times before the board is ruined |
| 01:21.12 | NAiL | Could you flash a couple of chips for me if I can get them? |
| 01:21.46 | NAiL | the chips in question are 128mbit devices: http://www.spansion.com/products/S29GL128N.html |
| 01:21.47 | RobNC | I got a 16MB flash off a scrap board, but was too chicken to try it on my board. Now that I have JTAG, I might try it. |
| 01:22.26 | RobNC | Yeah I gotcha. Dunno about that vendor, but the ones I got were exact same model as ones on NSLU2 (Intel) except 128Mib |
| 01:24.37 | RobNC | Dunno if that part is supported by the programmer. You can download the bpmicro s/w for free, then try it in off-line mode. See what TSOP-56 sockets it requires. |
| 01:24.48 | RobNC | or gimme a minute and I can do it |
| 01:24.58 | RobNC | (verify s/w only) |
| 01:25.10 | NAiL | Does bpmicro run on linux? :) |
| 01:25.30 | RobNC | heh not quite. |
| 01:26.48 | NAiL | In my house, there's only linux. (And OSX on my gf's Mac) ;) |
| 01:27.18 | RobNC | heh must be nice. Then again, there's always wine. Not sure if it works well with USB and/or LPT drivers tho |
| 01:27.48 | NAiL | Dunno. I haven't tried wine for a few years either :-P |
| 01:28.26 | RobNC | yeah, now there is vmware. But you still need the OS software. |
| 01:29.12 | NAiL | I do have an XP Home licence, if the sticker beneath my laptop is still whole |
| 01:29.40 | RobNC | that's enuf. That's the cheap part. The programmer is about $8k |
| 01:30.12 | NAiL | yeah, I was looking around when I bricked the device |
| 01:30.25 | RobNC | So this isn't on NSLU2 eh? |
| 01:30.30 | NAiL | just an adapter for tsop56 was a *lot* |
| 01:30.39 | NAiL | no, it's a QNAP Turbostation TS-101 |
| 01:30.42 | RobNC | Yeah for BPMicro, the adapter is $500 |
| 01:31.20 | RobNC | That is the 56-pin TSOP. |
| 01:31.37 | NAiL | exactly |
| 01:31.53 | NAiL | and a new ts101 would be ~$300 |
| 01:32.38 | RobNC | wow. There are only 2 programmers I know of: BPMicro and Unisite |
| 01:32.43 | RobNC | Data-IO I thin |
| 01:32.46 | RobNC | think |
| 01:33.26 | NAiL | beeprog? |
| 01:33.37 | NAiL | http://www.elnec.com/products/device-programmers/beeprog/ |
| 01:34.00 | NAiL | I know that one handles the chip I want :) |
| 01:34.31 | RobNC | do you have the exact part number? |
| 01:34.52 | NAiL | Spansion S29GL128N11TF101; 0508ABA H |
| 01:36.44 | RobNC | need something like this: Spansion S29GL128N-TF-01 is there |
| 01:37.35 | RobNC | I think we have the right module for that. It needs SM56TC, SM56TB, and I think we ordered SM56TA and SM56TB if memory serves |
| 01:38.11 | RobNC | Only problem would be to ensure absolute-binary format, and also triple-verify indianness |
| 01:38.23 | RobNC | I meant Endianness |
| 01:38.30 | NAiL | haha, I didn't notice |
| 01:39.09 | NAiL | The device is BE-only (powerpc) |
| 01:39.15 | RobNC | I might try to put 16MB flash on my slug just for kicks. |
| 01:39.57 | RobNC | Oh if it's BE then no big deal then eh. So long as you have the absolute binary file. There isn't a way for me to verify it is programmed correctly (I mean the settings on the programmer) |
| 01:40.15 | NAiL | absolute binary file? |
| 01:40.36 | NAiL | I do have another ts101. Would a copy of the current flash suffice? |
| 01:41.34 | RobNC | yeah I mean, as opposed to some other programming format, like those used by JTAG programmers, etc. |
| 01:41.35 | NAiL | All I need to have programmed is 256kb at 15mb into the flash |
| 01:41.49 | RobNC | ok, so just offset and length. |
| 01:42.22 | NAiL | yeah |
| 01:42.34 | RobNC | complete flash isn't necessary unless you can't use just the boot loader. |
| 01:42.44 | NAiL | I doubt I'll be able to get any chips until a little while after easter though |
| 01:43.00 | RobNC | well that's good b/c I'll be extremely busy at work too :-) |
| 01:43.07 | NAiL | If I can get the bootloader, that's all I need. Reprogramming the rest from there is a breeze ;) |
| 01:43.29 | NAiL | The hard part is removing the old chip from the pcb without damaging it :-P |
| 01:43.35 | NAiL | (damaging the pcb, that is) |
| 01:43.36 | RobNC | Gotcha. Too bad your ts101 doesn't have JTAG |
| 01:43.43 | NAiL | Sucks :-\ |
| 01:43.47 | RobNC | yeah I would recommend Metcal |
| 01:44.07 | NAiL | Metcal? |
| 01:44.09 | RobNC | and two tips (wedges) on both sides of the chip. Any other way, you surely risk ripping the pads |
| 01:44.25 | NAiL | ah |
| 01:45.04 | NAiL | I'll probably be using an x-acto knife and cutting off the feet. Sacrifice the chip to reduce stress on the pads |
| 01:46.07 | RobNC | WOW!! Yikes... |
| 01:46.13 | RobNC | http://www.okinternational.com/product_soldering/mx500smt |
| 01:46.57 | NAiL | neat. Been wanting to get some of those |
| 01:46.59 | RobNC | but if you don't already have a Metcal, it doesn't do you much good. |
| 01:47.29 | NAiL | I don't ;) |
| 01:47.30 | RobNC | Having used one, I would never desolder 0.1mm pitch parts w/o it |
| 01:47.51 | NAiL | yeah |
| 01:47.59 | NAiL | I've managed before |
| 01:48.08 | NAiL | i's not exactly easy, but it's doable |
| 01:48.12 | RobNC | So you just cut the wires, then use wick to clean up the mess? |
| 01:48.32 | NAiL | yeah |
| 01:48.55 | RobNC | makes sense. saves you about $500 |
| 01:49.13 | NAiL | that much? In that case, definitely worth it ;) |
| 01:49.52 | RobNC | I think... that's without all the exotic tips (circa $25-$50 each). I think it uses RF or something, because it heats up in 2 seconds. |
| 01:50.37 | NAiL | The odds that I'll be using tsop56 tips very often is rather low |
| 01:51.29 | RobNC | yeah but you could suffice with just a wedge (looks like a chisel). It is best with lots of flux and sometimes too much solder first (to evenly heat up all the pads) |
| 01:51.40 | NAiL | yeah, I know |
| 01:52.36 | NAiL | anyway, replacing the chip is the last thing I'll be trying before I point a torch to the bga CPU until it falls off. At that point I can atleast see if there is JTAG access somewhere ;) |
| 01:52.49 | RobNC | WOW!!! Yikes!!! |
| 01:53.20 | NAiL | If I can't replace the flash, it's dead anyway. Atleast I can check if it's at all possible to get JTAG ;) |
| 01:53.27 | RobNC | We have a machine that does that (ironically) but I can't use it b/c you have to be qualified |
| 01:53.34 | NAiL | oh |
| 01:53.51 | NAiL | a torch does the job just fine (Except it won't work afterwards :P) |
| 01:55.15 | RobNC | heh true. You might be able to heat it up in an oven to say, 200F, then carefully using a paint stripper, remove the BGA with more heat. |
| 01:55.27 | RobNC | ppl say that uneven heating to a BGA can cause board warpage |
| 01:55.35 | NAiL | hmm |
| 01:55.55 | NAiL | well, I can just put it in my oven upside-down |
| 01:56.09 | NAiL | I bet I can hear when it falls of ;) |
| 01:56.13 | RobNC | heh |
| 01:56.29 | RobNC | by then, everything else will be off too!! |
| 01:56.37 | NAiL | yeah, that doesn't matter ;) |
| 01:56.40 | RobNC | and the plastic components will be melting or on fire |
| 01:56.43 | NAiL | makes it easier to follow any traces |
| 01:57.00 | RobNC | too bad you couldn't get the board file |
| 01:57.48 | RobNC | but no one would ever give that to you |
| 01:57.55 | NAiL | indeed |
| 01:58.44 | NAiL | But if I remove all components, that'll make it easier for other people that want to figure out the hardware. But it's the last thing I do before I throw the parts away. |
| 01:59.11 | RobNC | this is true. sacrificial board. |
| 02:00.29 | NAiL | I can scavenge some parts from the board though |
| 02:00.35 | NAiL | the ram chips |
| 02:00.40 | NAiL | a PIC |
| 02:00.52 | RobNC | well, just let me know when u need that part programmed. |
| 02:00.55 | pierrelux | NAiL: you could use a heat gun for stripping paint |
| 02:00.59 | RobNC | RAM chips can be hard to get a hold of |
| 02:01.09 | RobNC | pierrelux: that's what I suggested too :-) |
| 02:01.22 | NAiL | exactly. And my other ts101 has two free pads for ram chips |
| 02:01.26 | RobNC | but you want to first evenly heat the board up to a softening point |
| 02:01.42 | RobNC | (solder softening) |
| 02:01.53 | NAiL | picking them from the ts101 carcass would hopefully make them match rather close :) |
| 02:02.31 | RobNC | just not sure if the parts can be used once they exceed 300F. Most parts only have a storage rating up to 140C. |
| 02:04.00 | NAiL | I'll remove any interesting parts before heating the board |
| 02:04.22 | RobNC | hopefully not the wire-cutter method! :-0 |
| 02:04.34 | NAiL | haha, no |
| 02:05.33 | RobNC | Just got a new NSLU2 gonna modify for Rod (256MiB), it's still underclocked. Geez... |
| 02:05.43 | NAiL | haha |
| 02:05.50 | NAiL | well, that's quick to fix |
| 02:06.08 | RobNC | anyone know how to set up a build environment? (yes it's very easy with SMT soldering tools too) :-) |
| 02:06.35 | RobNC | Rod stated: it would be helpful if you could set yourself up to build from our kernel svn repo |
| 02:06.41 | NAiL | ah |
| 02:07.12 | RobNC | lots of fatslug wiki pages assume you know your way around all the envs like back of hand (as if I have done it before) |
| 02:08.18 | RobNC | see this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/FatSlug here: "toolchain for armv5b (arm big-endian) and for arm (arm little-endian). For arm BE you can use the toolchain that you generate with the OpenSlug Master Makefile, and for arm LE you can use that provided by emdebian." |
| 02:10.17 | NAiL | do you want LE or BE toolchain? |
| 02:11.01 | RobNC | seems like I need both? perhaps Apex uses BE, and Debian uses LE? |
| 02:11.03 | NAiL | mkdir slug;cd slug;wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile;make setup-openembedded;make slugos(le|be) |
| 02:11.27 | RobNC | Sweet - will try now (on CentOS system) |
| 02:11.30 | NAiL | that should work if you have all the necessary build tools installed ;) |
| 02:11.45 | RobNC | don't have to be root right? |
| 02:11.51 | NAiL | try "make setup-host-centos" before make setup-openembedded |
| 02:12.06 | NAiL | you have to be root for setup-host-* |
| 02:12.22 | NAiL | but the rest, you *have* to build as a user |
| 02:12.27 | RobNC | ok thanks - will try now (and will update the poorly-documented wiki if this works) |
| 02:12.38 | NAiL | (Unless you risk destroying your box) |
| 02:13.47 | RobNC | ok gotcha - definitely don't want to do that!! |
| 02:14.15 | NAiL | nope ;) |
| 02:15.53 | NAiL | fendOr: ping? |
| 02:15.53 | RobNC | why does the "make setup-host-centos" require root? |
| 02:15.55 | NAiL | because it installs a *bunch* of packages you need to build |
| 02:16.01 | RobNC | ah ok gotcha |
| 02:16.07 | NAiL | gcc, binutils, svn, git, etc. |
| 02:16.37 | RobNC | I see that - bunches of yums! |
| 02:16.45 | CIA-5 | 03bzhou * r5898 10optware/trunk/make/py-quixote.mk: py-quixote: 2.4 -> 2.5b1 |
| 02:18.53 | RobNC | grr some issues with CentOS4 |
| 02:19.00 | RobNC | trying again |
| 02:20.34 | NAiL | Rod can probably help you if you get stuck |
| 02:20.41 | NAiL | I've never touched centos |
| 02:20.48 | RobNC | Thanks, he has CentOS I understand. |
| 02:20.52 | NAiL | indeed |
| 02:21.06 | RobNC | what's that site again - paste.ca or something? |
| 02:21.21 | NAiL | pastebin.ca |
| 02:21.29 | RobNC | thanks - that's it! |
| 02:21.32 | RobNC | doing that now |
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| 02:30.43 | RobNC | almost looks like some kind of carriage return issue with the make setup-host-centos |
| 02:32.25 | NAiL | what happens? |
| 02:33.35 | RobNC | (sorry trying to copy/paste multi-line) |
| 02:34.26 | RobNC | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.35 | RobNC | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.43 | RobNC | make: *** [setup-host-centos] Error 2 |
| 02:35.53 | RobNC | ah I think I see the problem... ] |
| 02:36.39 | RobNC | someone forgot this I think: su - -c "\ |
| 02:37.15 | NAiL | looks like it ;) |
| 02:37.29 | rwhitby | fixed |
| 02:37.35 | CIA-5 | 03bzhou * r5899 10optware/trunk/make/gambit-c.mk: gambit-c: 4.0b20 -> 4.0b22 |
| 02:37.44 | RobNC | line 640 |
| 02:38.05 | rwhitby | RobNC: make update-master |
| 02:38.22 | RobNC | thanks trying that now |
| 02:40.16 | RobNC | I am doing the make update-master but should I do "make setup-host-centos" first? |
| 02:40.42 | NAiL | no |
| 02:40.46 | NAiL | update-master first |
| 02:40.49 | NAiL | that updates the makefile |
| 02:41.10 | RobNC | oh you mean it uses my Makefile and updates the master? |
| 02:41.26 | rwhitby | it uses the makefile to update the makefile |
| 02:41.46 | RobNC | ok gotcha. shouldn't I check to make sure make setup-host-centos works first? |
| 02:42.08 | rwhitby | not until you have the makefile with the fix in it |
| 02:43.22 | RobNC | I see. You mean the fix you fixed rwhitby? |
| 02:43.30 | rwhitby | yep |
| 02:43.39 | rwhitby | the one you pointed out |
| 02:43.58 | RobNC | ok... shoot, mtn command not found |
| 02:44.08 | NAiL | RobNC: I'll bug you regarding the flash stuff later |
| 02:44.22 | NAiL | RobNC: you'll have to install monotone |
| 02:44.29 | NAiL | nite all |
| 02:44.29 | RobNC | NAiL: no problem, I'm sure you know how to get hold of me |
| 02:44.37 | RobNC | thanks for your help NAiL |
| 02:44.40 | NAiL | np |
| 02:44.41 | NAiL | :) |
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| 02:52.19 | RobNC | rhitby got the NSLU2 and mem, gonna modify it soon |
| 02:52.58 | RobNC | s/rhitby/rwhitby |
| 02:53.32 | rwhitby | RobNC: sweet |
| 02:53.40 | rwhitby | gonna go for the 16MB flash? |
| 02:55.04 | RobNC | um, sure if you want. Lemme get this straight first tho.. when I copied flash in userland, that was in LE mode, so flashing must be done in LE mode too I assume? |
| 02:55.19 | RobNC | (using D-I RC1) |
| 02:56.35 | rwhitby | are you set up to use jtag to reflash? |
| 02:56.44 | rwhitby | (the bootloader) |
| 02:57.18 | RobNC | for my board, yes, but not for yours (yet) |
| 02:58.45 | RobNC | Guess I could set up JTAG but not sure if you already have parallel-port programmer for that? |
| 02:59.06 | rwhitby | I have a digilent parallel port cable, and have used it before on an nslu2 to reflash redboot |
| 02:59.21 | rwhitby | (with the wince jtag tools) |
| 03:00.34 | RobNC | does it use 2x5 header or did you customize it to use something like here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/jtag/LandslideJTag |
| 03:00.58 | RobNC | except I also provided 3.3V and GND as follows (same pinout as above I believe): |
| 03:01.49 | rwhitby | I used a single 1x5 header, and mounted in on top of the ethernet port |
| 03:02.00 | RobNC | oops I am wrong; I used a different pinout on my JTAG. I did it as follows: |
| 03:02.12 | RobNC | TDI TMS TCK VSS VCC TDO TRSTn |
| 03:02.41 | RobNC | even though TRSTn isn't used, it could have been used if I had a real wiggler. But openwince stuff didn't need it |
| 03:02.56 | rwhitby | I just had tdi, tms, tdo, tck, gnd and 3.3V - no tsrtn |
| 03:03.29 | rwhitby | if you can do one the same as the digilent parallel cable, that would be sweet. |
| 03:03.30 | RobNC | correct, trstn isn't needed, if you power up the board after connecting to printer port (holds it in reset) |
| 03:05.00 | RobNC | what is pinout of digilent? |
| 03:06.20 | rwhitby | this is the cable: http://www.nuhorizons.com/products/digilent/jtag-cable.html |
| 03:06.36 | rwhitby | and you can even read the pinout on that picture :-) |
| 03:08.21 | RobNC | gotcha... my 1x7 header used gnd as center pin (mainly b/c it was closest to ground of thru-hole cap) for rigidity |
| 03:08.53 | pierrelux | rwhitby: what's inside that JTAG cable ? Would a simple circuit around FT245R be enough for "usb jtaging" ? |
| 03:09.44 | RobNC | pierrelux: I didn't use this; I used the instructions here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlashUsingJTAG |
| 03:09.54 | rwhitby | pierrelux: dunno - never opened it. it's a fairly standard cable. |
| 03:10.09 | RobNC | 245 is just a bidir buffer, just set the direction one-way and it works just like a 244 |
| 03:10.37 | RobNC | oh wait USB JTAG forget it |
| 03:11.09 | RobNC | you need some serious work on that. some kind of microcontroller, USB driver, etc. |
| 03:13.05 | RobNC | and plus, timing is pretty important with JTAG so you'd need some way to buffer up stuff as well. I heard that usb1.1 devices would be slower than parallel-port because of the handshaking, etc. required. Not sure about USB2.0 but that's not an enthusiast's market yet |
| 03:13.49 | RobNC | rwhitby: if JTAG is there, shouldn't be any reason it can't be programmed via openwince tools |
| 03:14.41 | rwhitby | RobNC: do you have a jtag cable with a compatible pinout? |
| 03:14.59 | RobNC | I can make a dongle from my pinout to yours if needed |
| 03:15.01 | rwhitby | (i.e. so you can test the 16MB flash before shipping) |
| 03:15.38 | RobNC | rwhitby: yeah that's a no-brainer |
| 03:17.01 | rwhitby | sweet |
| 03:17.16 | RobNC | monotone took forever to compile. doing "make check". then I should be able to continue with the build env. |
| 03:19.46 | RobNC | tomorrow might be the best day to do it too... provided no one is in the lab and will bug me! :-) |
| 03:20.37 | rwhitby | let me know if you need any other info (for the board, or for the build env) |
| 03:21.30 | RobNC | yeah, you only want bare PCB? shipping to my house was only 2lb, for entire box. Not sure delta in $$ between 1lb and 2lb to aus. |
| 03:23.21 | rwhitby | RobNC: http://www.usps.com/global/globalexpressmail.htm |
| 03:24.24 | pierrelux | this one looks neat: http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?Prod=JTAG-USB&Nav1=Products&Nav2=Cables |
| 03:24.28 | rwhitby | should be able to get the $16.25 rate with the bare NSLU2 (board & plastic case, no power supply, no cables) |
| 03:24.44 | rwhitby | RobNC: I do want the case :-) |
| 03:25.39 | RobNC | ok np! :-) (had to superglue the bottom tab on the faceplate as it broke off but it should be better now. |
| 03:26.20 | RobNC | rwhitby: is usps cheaper than fedex and ups? |
| 03:26.37 | rwhitby | Global Express Mail to Australia is the cheapest I believe. |
| 03:26.54 | rwhitby | (cheapest with tracking that is) |
| 03:28.07 | jacques | can oe use monotone > 0.29 yet ? |
| 03:28.30 | RobNC | gotcha global express guaranteed - non-document |
| 03:28.51 | RobNC | oh crap don't tell me that - I'm building monotone 0.34 - is it not gonna work?? |
| 03:29.20 | jacques | didn't used to |
| 03:29.30 | rwhitby | 0.34 is fine |
| 03:29.49 | RobNC | I have built 0.34 and am "make check"ing right now. |
| 03:29.53 | rwhitby | you just need to mtn db migrate from 0.33 |
| 03:30.09 | rwhitby | RobNC: how heavy is PCB + case only in lbs? |
| 03:30.32 | rwhitby | fedex 2 lbs is $70 |
| 03:30.48 | RobNC | rwhitby: the whole package, which padding, was 2lbs according to amazon |
| 03:30.59 | RobNC | Ouch! |
| 03:31.14 | RobNC | that's right can't go fedex ground to aus :-) |
| 03:33.37 | RobNC | rwhitby I don't know how much for pcb+case - but it has to be less than 1lb, perhaps 0.5lb? |
| 03:35.17 | rwhitby | usps global express mail (the site I linked) is the best way to send it. |
| 03:35.42 | rwhitby | I've had great success with that previously when ka6sox and dyoung have sent me stuff. |
| 03:35.49 | RobNC | rwhitby ok np... first gotta mod the slug :-) |
| 03:36.08 | rwhitby | RobNC: ka6sox is coming here now to confirm |
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| 03:37.09 | rwhitby | ka6sox-laptop: http://www.usps.com/global/globalexpressmail.htm right? |
| 03:37.17 | ka6sox-laptop | yes |
| 03:37.38 | rwhitby | $16.25 ? |
| 03:37.43 | ka6sox-laptop | thats the best way (some days they say where he lives is off their map. |
| 03:37.54 | rwhitby | (for slug board in case, no PSU, no other stuff) |
| 03:37.55 | ka6sox-laptop | I think so if it fits in the box |
| 03:38.15 | RobNC | rwhitby holy smokes ups is $82 wow |
| 03:38.31 | rwhitby | ka6sox-laptop: it'll be going to Adelaide city now, instead of 15 kms out of the city. |
| 03:38.44 | ka6sox-laptop | right |
| 03:38.59 | RobNC | ka6sox ok cool... sometimes it can be cheaper if to business versus residence |
| 03:39.09 | rwhitby | ka6sox-laptop: RobNC is making me a 256MB/16MB fatslug :-) |
| 03:39.27 | ka6sox-laptop | excellent |
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| 03:40.31 | RobNC | just so I don't forget anything: 4-pin serial header, 16M flash, 4x32x16 SDRAM w/CS jumper, de-underclock, JTAG, ? |
| 03:41.02 | ka6sox-laptop | RobNC, some of the new ones don't require underclocking |
| 03:41.12 | RobNC | ka6sox this one does !! :-( |
| 03:41.23 | ka6sox-laptop | ah |
| 03:41.29 | ka6sox-laptop | an old stock one :D |
| 03:41.40 | RobNC | I would have thought not. You'd think that the old ones would be all gone |
| 03:42.13 | RobNC | no other changes, right, in regards to BOM, or PCB, for new ones? |
| 03:42.36 | ka6sox-laptop | iirc they removed the resistor so it goes at full speed |
| 03:43.04 | RobNC | that's it; that's no biggie :-) |
| 03:43.12 | ka6sox-laptop | right |
| 03:44.01 | rwhitby | RobNC: yep, that list of mods is perfect :-) |
| 03:44.16 | RobNC | ok, cool... will get back to you rwhitby when mods are complete. gotta run - honey-do list :-) |
| 03:44.22 | rwhitby | and tested ? |
| 03:44.35 | RobNC | may come back later after make check is done (for monotone) |
| 03:45.07 | RobNC | yes of course... I'll test it here on-line. Prolly won't flash it in the programmer, just use JTAG |
| 03:45.15 | rwhitby | sweet. |
| 03:45.19 | rwhitby | have a good easter! |
| 03:45.25 | RobNC | thanks, you too! |
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| 04:37.06 | Dandan | hello all :) |
| 04:38.10 | Dandan | is there a live person here? |
| 04:38.32 | Dandan | I have a question re: kernel on nslu2 in debian |
| 04:38.46 | Dandan | on debian in nslu2... |
| 04:39.03 | Dandan | i need to have a 1000Hz ticks per sec kernel |
| 04:39.09 | Dandan | is it doable? |
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| 05:01.56 | CIA-5 | 03mwester * r812 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.21/06-dsmg600-upstream-support.patch: Reviewed and signed-off |
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| 08:02.05 | CIA-5 | 03blaster8 * r814 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.20/ (00-linux-2.6.20.4.patch 00-linux-2.6.20.6.patch series): Update to 2.6.20.6, fixes remote crasher bug |
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| 08:11.52 | CIA-5 | 03blaster8 07lopatch * r816 10kernel/patches/2.6.20/ (00-linux-2.6.20.4.patch 00-linux-2.6.20.6.patch series): Sync lopatch branch with trunk |
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| 15:39.42 | RobNC | RedBoot is BE right? |
| 15:40.05 | mwester | Yes |
| 15:40.25 | RobNC | thanks... devising some way to test RAM from RedBoot |
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| 17:34.19 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 19:50.48 | hillct | NAiL: see my comments in #oe. I don't know if this is slug specific or not |
| 19:51.31 | NAiL | no idea. I stay far away from libtool |
| 19:51.44 | NAiL | I believe libtool is contagious and causes braindamage. |
| 20:16.46 | hillct | it may |
| 20:17.00 | hillct | but it definately causes damage to my builds |
| 20:17.13 | hillct | since it doesn't properly populate staging |
| 20:18.19 | hillct | NAiL: can you build libtool-native just to confirm that it's not populating staging/i686-linux/share/libtool/libltdl ? |
| 20:18.59 | NAiL | sorry, not right now |
| 20:19.21 | hillct | np |
| 20:20.10 | drif | puzzled |
| 20:21.17 | drif | could nano (even when using -w switch) break linuxrc file while editing? |
| 20:24.20 | NAiL | it shouldn't |
| 20:31.33 | hillct | NAiL: it appears the libtool problem is either specific to slugos or specific ot my build enviroment |
| 20:37.10 | RobNC | part of "make slugosle" - says "Psyco JIT Compiler not available". Going to http://psyco.sf.net shows several versions... 1.5.2-linux-i386-2.3 2.4 and 2.5.tar.gz? |
| 20:38.00 | NAiL | RobNC: only available on ix86 |
| 20:38.04 | NAiL | not x64 |
| 20:38.07 | NAiL | or other archs |
| 20:38.22 | RobNC | not usable by arm? |
| 20:38.37 | NAiL | what host are you building on? |
| 20:38.42 | RobNC | i386 |
| 20:38.48 | RobNC | (i686 actually) |
| 20:39.13 | NAiL | should be fine. Figure out which python version you have, and install the psyco version that matches |
| 20:39.39 | RobNC | Ah ok that's the python version (second number) |
| 20:39.42 | NAiL | yes |
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| 20:41.28 | drif | well, does anyone have a clue why I'm able to modify everything else in miniroot.gz except that file (linuxrc)? if I'm making a slightest edit - like adding a comment line # - boot breaks |
| 20:42.01 | drif | sounds crazy |
| 20:42.33 | RobNC | Thanks Nail. "python -V" does that |
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| 23:36.11 | RobNC | anyone know how to resolve issues with "make slugosle" - looks like problem with makefile again... get some 404 Not Found errors |
| 23:58.00 | CoreDump|home | RobNC: sounds like a changed upstream URL |
| 23:58.15 | CoreDump|home | RobNC: which tarball do you need? |
| 23:58.18 | rwhitby | RobNC: if there are sources missing, you can download them from sources.nslu2-linux.org ... |
| 23:58.28 | RobNC | yep, gonna do make update-master again. |
| 23:58.36 | rwhitby | our autobuilders upload all required tarballs there |