| 00:40.09 | *** join/#nslu2-linux mwester-laptop (n=chatzill@gw.mwester.net) |
| 01:17.52 | *** join/#nslu2-linux jacques (n=jacques@nslu2-linux/jacques) |
| 02:13.31 | *** join/#nslu2-linux jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 02:13.31 | *** topic/#nslu2-linux is nslu2-linux developer channel - use #nslu2-general for end-user questions |
| 04:01.53 | rwhitby | . |
| 04:40.15 | *** join/#nslu2-linux nSi (n=Sinclair@p5b203a36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:01.25 | *** join/#nslu2-linux DrZimmerman (n=theo@84-74-134-243.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 05:40.24 | *** part/#nslu2-linux pierrelux (n=pierre-l@144-125.sh.cgocable.ca) |
| 06:13.38 | CIA-5 | 03bzhou * r5822 10optware/trunk/make/xterm.mk: xterm: 224 -> 225 |
| 07:32.27 | *** join/#nslu2-linux eiffel (n=eiffel@p5B05335F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:08.07 | *** join/#nslu2-linux joshin_ (n=joshin@unaffiliated/joshin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:08.07 | *** join/#nslu2-linux osas (n=osas@CABLE-72-53-75-252.cia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 12:09.42 | CIA-5 | 03oleo * r5823 10optware/trunk/make/mediatomb.mk: mediatomb: add libuclibc++ depend |
| 12:15.15 | CIA-5 | 03oleo * r5824 10optware/trunk/make/mediatomb.mk: mediatomb: fix previous libuclibc++ depend |
| 12:33.46 | *** join/#nslu2-linux pleemans (n=peter@d51A5E76A.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:41.09 | *** join/#nslu2-linux marceln (n=marceln@pion.xs4all.nl) |
| 13:02.11 | *** join/#nslu2-linux jacques (n=jacques@nslu2-linux/jacques) |
| 13:29.17 | *** join/#nslu2-linux GPSFan (n=kenm@12.10.255.248) |
| 14:17.07 | *** join/#nslu2-linux pierrelux (n=pierre-l@144-125.sh.cgocable.ca) |
| 14:28.30 | *** join/#nslu2-linux hillct (n=H@client200-5.dsl.intrex.net) |
| 14:40.24 | *** join/#nslu2-linux bullet (n=bullet@116.219.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 15:10.41 | *** join/#nslu2-linux H4rvy (n=norm@80-193-172-141.cable.ubr05.pres.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 16:31.16 | hillct | NAiL: I've been advised to increase the accuracy of kernel timers in order to get reliable VOIP operation on the slug: |
| 16:31.18 | hillct | (12:27:19) RoyK: hillct: configure your kernel with 1000HZ ticks, not 100HZ |
| 16:31.18 | hillct | (12:27:49) RoyK: or use 2.6.21 with dyntick and hrtimers :P |
| 16:31.18 | hillct | (12:28:18) hillct: RoyK: thanks. I'm not sure how receptive the distro maintainers will be to that |
| 16:31.19 | hillct | (12:28:24) hillct: but I'll check it out |
| 16:31.19 | hillct | (12:28:53) RoyK: hillct: you need 1000Hz or dyntick to do good timing |
| 16:32.19 | hillct | I don't know much about the timers setup. Is this something worth doing or would it be pointless based on hardware limitations? |
| 16:34.51 | callum | Does anyone know of anywhere someone has documented fitting an ir sensor inside the slug |
| 16:35.39 | hillct | inside? |
| 16:36.06 | hillct | I believe someone added an IR remote to a slug at one point using a USB IR dongle |
| 16:37.08 | callum | yes, i've got something buit at the moment with leads soldered onto a few places but just on a breadboard at the moment |
| 16:37.41 | callum | not in the case - guess i should document it a bit |
| 16:38.14 | hillct | I'm not big on hardware mods |
| 16:38.44 | hillct | I'd always go with utilizing existing interfaces wherever possible |
| 16:49.57 | CIA-5 | 03bzhou * r5825 10optware/trunk/make/libtasn1.mk: libtasn1: 0.3.8 -> 0.3.9 |
| 16:52.07 | callum | I've gone with a little soldering and it works... just got to try and squeeze it into the case |
| 17:54.33 | bofh | how much free space is inside the case? |
| 17:56.18 | *** join/#nslu2-linux AdamBaker (n=aab@userch028.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 18:00.36 | hillct | there really isn't a whole lot of available space inside the case |
| 18:01.06 | hillct | I imagine you want to mount it to the inside of the bezel |
| 18:01.40 | hillct | perhaps imediately below the top slanted faceplate below the disk LEDs |
| 18:02.24 | callum | yes plenty of room for it there - that shouldn't be a problem - just got to fiddle in a couple of resistors and a fet |
| 18:02.25 | hillct | as I believe you could cut a hole only through the backing so as to take advantage of the transparent face |
| 18:03.07 | hillct | that would take quite a bit of precision to get just right though |
| 18:03.56 | callum | just a big crude hole in the front is ok :) |
| 18:07.27 | bofh | hillct: how much space is there for a small, flat PCB? |
| 18:08.25 | hillct | dimensions? |
| 18:09.09 | bofh | 5cm * 1.5cm * 4mm |
| 18:09.32 | hillct | if you can position it just below the optical tunnels for the front LEDs there's lots of space |
| 18:09.33 | bofh | And another that's same l/w but 1cm high |
| 18:09.43 | bofh | Ahh, great. |
| 18:10.08 | callum | thats just above the cpy |
| 18:10.11 | hillct | there's a pic of the board on the TurboSlug page |
| 18:10.13 | bofh | Planning on taking out one of the USB connectors, soldering directly to the flashdrive, then using the spare space for rs232 off the internal connector. |
| 18:10.18 | *** join/#nslu2-linux pleemans (n=peter@d51A5E76A.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:10.20 | bofh | Might or might not work. |
| 18:11.01 | NAiL | bofh: you don't need to take off an usb-connector, there's three internal ports available |
| 18:11.10 | hillct | I'd just go with a USB -> RS232 dongle |
| 18:11.13 | bofh | NAiL: I know. |
| 18:11.27 | bofh | Taking off the usb connector to allow space for the serial connector, though. |
| 18:11.31 | bofh | hillct: that's pointless. |
| 18:11.37 | hillct | ? |
| 18:12.11 | hillct | why? provides the same functionality without requiring hardware modification |
| 18:12.13 | bofh | The main reason for adding an rs232 uart + internal port is for bootloader and kernel access, which is impossible using a usb/serial cable. |
| 18:12.27 | hillct | ah |
| 18:12.50 | bofh | Beyond bootloader/kernel access, rs232 is mostly useless? [local login? if getty is running, then most likely ifup also succeeded] |
| 18:12.55 | bofh | -?* |
| 18:13.07 | hillct | the other people I've spoken to about RS232 interfaces want to use it for managing HA controllers |
| 18:13.23 | bofh | There's also adding an MCP for instant power-on on-plug-in |
| 18:13.24 | hillct | after boot |
| 18:13.36 | hillct | ah |
| 18:13.39 | bofh | Why is the linksys power circuitry so complex anyway? |
| 18:13.54 | bofh | When you apply power, the CPU is supposed to turn on. Not wait for you to hit power. |
| 18:14.14 | hillct | I imagine they thought it would preserve drive integrity not to have them spin up imediately after a power outage |
| 18:14.30 | bofh | ...the drives are external anyway. |
| 18:14.44 | bofh | So that wouldn't matter. |
| 18:14.49 | hillct | I'm just stunned it isn't a controllable option within the firmware |
| 18:15.16 | hillct | or at least acessible to the firmware |
| 18:15.16 | bofh | I'm personally stunned they have to use an RS-Flipflop in the poweron circuitry. |
| 18:15.33 | bofh | Soekris has it done right, but it's boring x86, not ARM7 :P |
| 18:17.04 | hillct | incidently, I have my slug-based PBX fully operational |
| 18:17.28 | hillct | handles faxes, voice calls, voicemail conference bridges |
| 18:17.31 | bofh | Mine's mainly for ARM dev as well as a stratum-2 ntp server. |
| 18:18.05 | bofh | I might see if I could also cram in a small GPS unit [4cm*6cm*6mm] and attach it to the internal RX-only serial port. |
| 18:18.15 | bofh | By then I'll probably need a new case, haha. |
| 18:19.00 | hillct | I guess the thing could be considered portable. Under what circumstances would you use an embedded GPS device in a slug? |
| 18:19.46 | mwester | to serve as the stationary reference for use with differential GPS? |
| 18:20.05 | bofh | hillct: stratum-1 NTP servers get data from an external source |
| 18:20.14 | hillct | ah |
| 18:20.15 | bofh | GPS clocks are atomic and reliable to several nanoseconds. |
| 18:20.26 | hillct | cool |
| 18:20.45 | bofh | Stratum-1 is the base NTP server, stratum-2 gets data from str-1, str-3 get it from str-2, and so on and so forth. |
| 18:20.58 | hillct | yeah. I remember |
| 18:21.10 | hillct | just didn't think it through |
| 18:22.20 | bofh | and the damn slug is reliable as hell. |
| 18:22.27 | bofh | Got a year uptime on it, would have 2 years by now if it wasn't for a power outage |
| 18:45.22 | *** join/#nslu2-linux bofh_ (n=bofh@d57-70-74.home.cgocable.net) |
| 18:53.09 | *** join/#nslu2-linux caplink811-log (n=caplink8@dslb-088-073-156-123.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:10.37 | *** join/#nslu2-linux vmaster_ (i=vmaster@p5b07feee.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:57.48 | *** join/#nslu2-linux VoodooZ (n=palm3@modemcable045.249-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:37.52 | *** join/#nslu2-linux odoc (i=odoc@is.borntobooze.de) |
| 20:53.54 | *** join/#nslu2-linux Sinclair73de_ (n=IceChat7@p5B203A36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:21.40 | *** join/#nslu2-linux Sinclair73de (n=Sinclair@p5b203a36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:07.18 | *** join/#nslu2-linux jelle (n=jelle@ip54518e8c.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 22:09.41 | jelle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.53 | CIA-5 | 03bzhou * r5826 10optware/trunk/make/sqlite.mk: sqlite: 3.3.12 -> 3.3.13 |
| 22:31.46 | *** part/#nslu2-linux odoc (i=odoc@is.borntobooze.de) |
| 22:35.11 | *** join/#nslu2-linux odoc (i=odoc@is.borntobooze.de) |
| 23:06.23 | *** part/#nslu2-linux odoc (i=odoc@is.borntobooze.de) |
| 23:33.00 | NAiL | hillct: I'll look at 2044 tomorrow |
| 23:39.39 | *** join/#nslu2-linux ByronT-Away (n=byron-po@nslu2-linux/ByronT) |
| 23:46.46 | hillct | NAiL: no rush. Only minor changes |