| 00:03.20 | chacko | what is the best way to get a file from my xp into a folder in the vm under vmware? |
| 00:07.46 | rwhitby | chacko: vmware has support forums - that's not really a nslu2-linux related question. |
| 00:07.51 | rwhitby | look for "shared folders" |
| 00:17.01 | chacko | rwhitby, thank you. |
| 02:47.42 | hillct | rwhitby: aparently the package feeds are still messed up |
| 02:48.01 | hillct | at least those for 3.10-beta |
| 02:48.25 | rwhitby | 3.10 are hand-managed by NAiL |
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| 02:48.50 | rwhitby | what do you think is messed up about them? They don't automatically get new packages or anything like that. |
| 02:50.30 | NAiL | they get new packages automatically when I commit a change :) |
| 02:51.33 | NAiL | 3.10-beta feeds should be very stable, and koens changes won't touch those feeds. |
| 02:52.25 | rwhitby | right. |
| 02:52.35 | rwhitby | bbiab |
| 02:54.17 | NAiL | I'll be happy to update any packages that has been tested |
| 03:29.03 | hillct | currently, when I try to install anything using ipkg install, where I'm not specifying thelocal file, it fails |
| 03:29.25 | NAiL | with what error? |
| 03:29.29 | hillct | ipkg update works but aparently is working on and empty metadata file |
| 03:32.24 | hillct | the guy to whom I'm trying to explain this will be joining shortly |
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| 04:00.31 | msbn3t | libapr seems to be messed up in the 3.10beta feed. an ipkg list | grep libapr returns two versions 0.9.12 and 2.0.54. When you try to install libapr or libaprutil (ipkg install libapr) you get a 404 not found when it tries to download them: |
| 04:00.34 | msbn3t | root@MSB_SLUG1:~/ipkgs# ipkg install libapr-0-0 |
| 04:00.34 | msbn3t | Installing libapr-0-0 (2.0.54-r4) to root... |
| 04:00.34 | msbn3t | Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-bag/native/3.10-beta/libapr-0-0_2.0.54-r4_armeb.ipk |
| 04:00.34 | msbn3t | wget: server returned error 404: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found |
| 04:01.25 | msbn3t | if you browse the 3.10-beta tree - it's listed, but you can't download it. It's also listed in unstable and can be downloaded from there OK |
| 04:03.44 | NAiL | Looking into it. |
| 04:07.28 | NAiL | hmm |
| 04:07.47 | NAiL | do an ipkg update and try again |
| 04:07.54 | NAiL | ooh |
| 04:07.57 | NAiL | *native* |
| 04:08.04 | NAiL | I didn't notice that bit. |
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| 04:12.00 | NAiL | the native builders are broken for the time being. They will be back in a few weeks. |
| 04:12.34 | msbn3t | well the download from unstable worked fine so I'm good - just wanted to let you all know |
| 04:12.41 | msbn3t | still don |
| 04:12.41 | NAiL | all the packages in the native feed appears to have disappeared. |
| 04:12.59 | msbn3t | still don't understand why libapr exists twice in the feed (0.9.12 and 2.0.54) that was odd |
| 04:13.02 | NAiL | (although the packages file is still there, so it gives the appearance of existing) |
| 04:13.45 | NAiL | I only see 2.0.54 |
| 04:14.08 | msbn3t | It may have been due to some other local pkgs I was tryign to install, not sure why they'd show up in ipkg list though. |
| 04:14.24 | msbn3t | yeah - must be that because on my other slug theyonly show up once - weird |
| 04:14.28 | msbn3t | so no worries |
| 04:14.38 | NAiL | ok, that explains it |
| 04:15.30 | msbn3t | I didn't think a local pkg would show up in ipkg list (just ipkg list_installed if it was installed) |
| 04:15.37 | msbn3t | my bad |
| 04:16.05 | NAiL | Well, I wouldn't either. But I can't explain it otherwise, because 2.0.54 is the only one I can find in any feeds. |
| 04:16.13 | NAiL | (Although the ipk itself is gone) |
| 04:18.09 | pierrelux | I made a usb to serial adapter for J2 connector. Should picocom -b 115200 /dev/ttyUSB be enough to get access over the console ? It just prints "Terminal ready" for now... |
| 04:19.42 | pierrelux | (actually it's "serial over usb"... you know what I mean: I used a ft232) |
| 04:25.10 | mwester | pierrelux: disconnect the adaptor from j2, and connect the serial rx and tx lines together. Check to see that everything you type in picocom is echoed. |
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| 13:37.03 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 13:52.48 | marceln | ? |
| 14:15.16 | hillct | NAiL: was 3.10-beta updated for the US DST change? |
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| 14:29.10 | NAiL | no |
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| 15:39.26 | mwester | hillct: download the tzdata ipkg from the unstable feeds and install it on 3.10. |
| 15:41.31 | NAiL | mwester: does it work? |
| 15:41.44 | NAiL | It should be updated in the stable feed too |
| 15:42.10 | mwester | Waiting for confirmation from at least a few users in the field before it should be moved to stable, methinks... |
| 15:42.37 | hillct | will test shortly |
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| 16:14.23 | hillct | I'll have updates for neon and subversion bitbake recipes shortly |
| 16:14.25 | hillct | geez |
| 16:14.50 | hillct | it's amazing how many dependency updates I'm having to make to get openpbx installing cleanly |
| 16:43.45 | CIA-6 | 03bzhou * r5771 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/tzwatch.mk): added and promoted tzwatch |
| 17:29.23 | hillct | mwester: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-bag/cross/unstable/timezones_1.2.0-r1_armv5teb.ipk does not seem to contain the DST update. Did I select the wrong package? |
| 17:33.35 | hillct | mwester: this data may be helpful as a source for updated zoneinfo files http://www.trueblade.com/knowledge/modifying-fedora-core-2-to-support-daylight-savings-time-changes-in-2007.plone |
| 17:38.11 | mwester-laptop | hillct: can you be more specific on your conclusions? That package is working fine on my devices. |
| 17:38.41 | hillct | it functions. It simply does not contain the DST update |
| 17:38.45 | mwester-laptop | hillct: you are downloading the wrong timezone files. |
| 17:38.56 | hillct | figures |
| 17:38.57 | mwester-laptop | the tzdata packages are the new ones. |
| 17:39.00 | hillct | which one do I need? |
| 17:39.06 | hillct | URL? |
| 17:39.36 | mwester-laptop | ipkg search should have them by now; rwhitby fixed the feeds. |
| 17:39.53 | hillct | K |
| 17:40.06 | hillct | so tzdata replaces timezones as the package name |
| 17:40.39 | mwester-laptop | Yes, there were reasons the old ones needed to stay around ;( |
| 17:41.23 | mwester-laptop | The name tzdata is consistent with the standard naming convention with Debian, Fedora, and others. So that's some consolation... |
| 17:41.53 | hillct | makes sense |
| 17:42.03 | hillct | so I want tzdata-2007c ? |
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| 17:42.30 | mwester-laptop | I'm hoping that we can get enough reports of "goodness" soon enough that we can slip the updated timezones into the next SlugOS release, but right now the alpha versions are still the old timezone data. |
| 17:42.44 | mwester-laptop | Yes, most folks will be ok with just the base tzdata-2007c package |
| 17:46.28 | hillct | that works |
| 17:46.32 | hillct | tested on 2 slugs |
| 17:46.44 | mwester-laptop | :) Excellent! |
| 17:49.34 | hillct | a buddy of mine has two other slugs and I've been prodding him to test and hang out here but he's being stodgy |
| 17:50.13 | hillct | er crumudgeonly |
| 17:50.18 | hillct | whatever |
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| 17:55.50 | msbn3t | Just FYI - tested out tzdata_2007c-r0_armv5teb.ipk from unstable and it worked great. 3.10 slug is showing EDT like it is supposed to |
| 17:55.50 | hillct | just got a report from another guy, that it works |
| 17:55.59 | CIA-6 | 03nail 07slugos-3.10-beta * r392 10slugos/openembedded/packages/sqlite/sqlite_2.8.17.bb: Update sqlite |
| 17:56.04 | hillct | (13:45:22) Mike Baptiste: /me tries it on Slug 2 |
| 17:56.04 | hillct | (13:45:24) Mike Baptiste: I only fixed slug 1 |
| 17:56.04 | hillct | (13:50:13) Mike Baptiste: works - EDT shows |
| 17:56.04 | hillct | (13:50:27) Colin: K |
| 17:56.04 | hillct | (13:50:31) Mike Baptiste: /me tries ntpclient now |
| 17:56.05 | hillct | (13:50:45) Colin: tell them in #nslu2-linux |
| 17:56.25 | CIA-6 | 03nail 07slugos-3.10-beta * r393 10slugos/openembedded/packages/ (meta/slugos-packages.bb tzdata/ tzdata/tzdata_2007c.bb): tzdata: Add tzdata, thanks to mwester |
| 17:56.41 | NAiL | should be in the feeds within ~6 hours. |
| 17:57.18 | NAiL | thanks for testing |
| 17:57.41 | mwester-laptop | Thanks for the feedback folks! |
| 18:09.12 | hillct | NAiL: ntpclient is in unstable but it appears to have been built against libgcc1 (>= 4.1.1) so it can't be tested on 3.10-beta |
| 18:10.11 | hillct | I know it works on 3.10-beta because I've been running it on my two slugs sing I built it. Is there some reason the feed would provide one built against HEAD rather than 3.10-beta in unstable? |
| 18:12.24 | NAiL | unstable == HEAD |
| 18:14.25 | hillct | so how do we provide packages for testing against 3.10-beta other than adding them directly to cross/stable? |
| 18:15.08 | hillct | or is it intended that the only image on which testing will be performed is HEAD? |
| 18:33.16 | NAiL | Packages that works in head are compiled against stable. if they work, I commit them. |
| 18:34.25 | hillct | ah |
| 18:34.42 | hillct | I guess I should install head on one of my slugs |
| 18:35.57 | hillct | is there a standard method for handling init script variables in OE distributions? FOr example, fedora and some other desktop distros use files in /etc/sysconfig |
| 18:36.33 | NAiL | check etc/default/ |
| 18:37.05 | hillct | ah |
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| 19:49.42 | chacko | hillct, when you test the tzdata could you please keep an eye out for the size? I remember we had gone to a one humungous pkg instead of the individulal one |
| 19:50.17 | hillct | already tested |
| 19:50.35 | hillct | what about the size? What's the expected size? |
| 19:51.39 | chacko | previously, I could just download us and delete all but the LosAngeles for me. Ended up being 2-4kb. How is it now? |
| 19:52.05 | mwester | chacko: one of the OE guys had already done the homework to chop it up; we picked up the OE solution for SlugOS. |
| 19:52.32 | mwester | The base tz package should suffice for most; it has a major city for each timezone worldwide. |
| 19:52.45 | mwester | The others have all the obscure ones for those who need the extra. |
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| 19:53.45 | chacko | that is great news! I was thinking of getting the old colorado tz for me as an interim solutions :) |
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| 19:56.26 | chacko | an aside... I have one of those clocks synced to the ground wave transmission from wwv. That sets itself correctly today!! |
| 19:58.45 | hillct | chacko: if you want to play with chopping things up, see http://www.trueblade.com/knowledge/modifying-fedora-core-2-to-support-daylight-savings-time-changes-in-2007.plone |
| 19:59.00 | hillct | you can build your own zoneinfo files however you see fit |
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| 20:52.01 | VoodooZ | NAiL: what is foonas? |
| 20:53.12 | NAiL | nas-centric distro |
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| 20:57.41 | VoodooZ | I was wondering because you said it had glibc2.5+nptl... |
| 20:58.06 | VoodooZ | Does it build for the slug? |
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| 21:25.24 | NAiL | I haven't tried |
| 21:26.32 | hillct | I don't see a whole lot of documentation for foonas |
| 21:26.45 | hillct | all google has are the commits |
| 21:28.39 | NAiL | I haven't written anything |
| 21:29.05 | NAiL | (docs, that is9 |
| 21:30.25 | NAiL | VoodooZ: theoretically, it can replace slugos |
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| 22:24.03 | joshin | FYI, I have glibc2.5+nptl running fine on my GentooSlug |
| 22:30.15 | kolla | joshin: aol :) |
| 22:31.17 | kolla | hehehe |
| 22:39.52 | kolla | I should do some soldering on mines.. get more RAM |
| 22:41.24 | kolla | or just get some new toys :) |
| 22:44.14 | kolla | gee.. cheep.. |
| 22:44.15 | kolla | http://www.siba.no/index.aspx?identifier=NO26022 |
| 22:44.50 | kolla | think I'll visit them tomorrow and have a look :) |
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| 22:49.04 | kolla | that could be the mips based one though |
| 22:53.30 | rwhitby | likely to be a Rev2. |
| 22:53.34 | rwhitby | but worth a check. |
| 22:54.21 | rwhitby | dyoung knows how to tell them apart (dunno if it can be done without opening the box, pretty sure it can be done without opening the unit itself) |
| 22:54.35 | kolla | exactly, and who knows... i might end up walking out with yet another slug, like last time I went there :) |
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| 22:57.05 | kolla | I always liked the looks of the iomega nas 100d, but the fsg-3 looks neat too |
| 22:57.16 | kolla | the iomega is a tad expencive |
| 23:00.15 | mwester | It's printed on the box, on the bottom (at least on the US-packaged units; says clearly that it's a Rev B hardware. dyoung knows how to tell from the serial number, though. |
| 23:01.34 | rwhitby | kolla: I have two nas100d's. they are noisy. |
| 23:01.46 | rwhitby | (so I keep them at work now) |
| 23:02.00 | kolla | ok.. tried fixing the fans? :) |
| 23:02.03 | rwhitby | fsg-3 is also a bit noisy, but the fan can be controlled. |
| 23:02.27 | rwhitby | I don't have a good supplier of small fans here :-( |
| 23:02.39 | mwester | The dsmg600's fan can also be controlled, although the control mechanism is to unplug the connector ;) |
| 23:03.08 | kolla | :) |
| 23:03.34 | mwester | I've seen two dsmg600 mods posted on the internet; one uses a slightly larger outboard fan to replace the little one. |
| 23:03.43 | rwhitby | heh - one of the nas100d's is at home at the moment (controlling the new neo) and it has that form of fan control applied right now :-) |
| 23:03.50 | kolla | I just got a mips based routeroard 532 to play with at work, quite nice |
| 23:04.02 | mwester | The other dispenses with the tiny (noisy) fan entirely, and uses an 80mm fan on the top of the unit. |
| 23:04.45 | mwester | I just took the lid off of mine, and unplugged the fan -- the 2.5" laptop drive inside stays very cool. No fan required. |
| 23:16.17 | kolla | qnap ts-201 looks neato as well |
| 23:26.46 | rwhitby | debian rc2 is released on slug-firmware.net |