| 00:01.13 | HopsNBarley | my kernel is around 1.4. i took out some stuff and added in jffs2, of course |
| 00:02.33 | NAiL | I think the kernel partition should be 2mb |
| 00:02.45 | HopsNBarley | lemme through this non-bond kernel on there, and we might have it. |
| 00:02.56 | NAiL | non-bond? |
| 00:03.25 | rwhitby | CoreDump|home: ping - how goes the altboot stuff? |
| 00:03.25 | HopsNBarley | ah ha! that bonding ethernet driver that leaked in. |
| 00:03.41 | CoreDump|home | rwhitby: slow due to still missing serial |
| 00:04.02 | rwhitby | ah, yes. I'm waiting for a serial cable for my fsg-3 ... |
| 00:04.06 | HopsNBarley | i'm in 1.35M, and most everything else could be module, except perhaps nfs if you want to boot from that. |
| 00:05.08 | NAiL | HopsNBarley: I'd like a kernel in flash for the rescue-fs. I won't flash the kernel more than once, since I'll be running debian kernels from disk. |
| 00:09.10 | HopsNBarley | to wax philosophic, here is a problem i see in general all across OE. we all have our very legitimate wants and needs, yet, a single image/version of a package/bb file just won't solve all these issues. i think we need USE flags. |
| 00:09.45 | HopsNBarley | there, i said it. |
| 00:10.08 | NAiL | hehe |
| 00:10.37 | NAiL | I'll be going to bed now |
| 00:10.40 | NAiL | nite all |
| 00:15.05 | HopsNBarley | nite NAiL |
| 00:18.58 | HopsNBarley | any idea why my e1000 doesn't show up? i.e. no eth0. yet it probes... |
| 00:38.21 | HopsNBarley | anybody else working on the TS-x01? |
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| 01:08.54 | NAiL | HopsNBarley: Too much stuff removed? |
| 01:17.42 | HopsNBarley | well, no. it's weird. i had to turn on the r8169 ethernet driver to get the net up. |
| 01:17.56 | HopsNBarley | is the qnap config just wrong? |
| 01:23.38 | NAiL | quite possibl |
| 01:23.38 | NAiL | y |
| 01:26.16 | HopsNBarley | i never cease to be amazed by the shoddiness of vendor code. sigh. |
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| 01:28.27 | HopsNBarley | yikes. scp is not fast, either. |
| 01:28.36 | NAiL | HopsNBarley: which nic is in your ts? |
| 01:28.51 | HopsNBarley | apparently it's the r8169. |
| 01:29.11 | HopsNBarley | what do you know about this? (-; |
| 01:29.57 | NAiL | Well, there's two different versions of the ts101 |
| 01:30.04 | NAiL | one with intel nic, and one with the r8192 |
| 01:30.22 | HopsNBarley | okay. same for 201, i'm guessing. |
| 01:30.22 | NAiL | r8169 |
| 01:30.29 | NAiL | probably |
| 01:30.51 | HopsNBarley | well, at any rate, i am ssh'ed into my TS. |
| 01:31.14 | HopsNBarley | any experiment you are dying to see? |
| 01:31.22 | NAiL | hmm |
| 01:31.35 | NAiL | not that I can think of |
| 01:32.22 | NAiL | hehe |
| 01:34.08 | NAiL | eno: thx for the ppc config.sh |
| 01:38.22 | CoreDump|home | n8 |
| 01:42.26 | joshin | Why the heck is python trying to pull in dietx11? Sigh, time to go digging in the bb files... |
| 01:43.56 | HopsNBarley | the TS are still way too expensive. you can get a PC-based platform for the same price |
| 01:44.11 | HopsNBarley | However, the Iomega storcenters are getting ever cheaper. |
| 01:48.43 | NAiL | TS101 w/o disk == 280 USD. Storcenter w/250gb disk == 360 |
| 01:48.49 | NAiL | That's here in .no |
| 01:49.17 | HopsNBarley | what is amusing is in all that patching, it still says vendor: motorola, machine: sandpoint. should we fix this to something nicer? |
| 01:49.31 | NAiL | yes |
| 01:49.38 | HopsNBarley | we've got storcenter with 2x 250Gdisk == $360 (i think) |
| 01:49.54 | NAiL | ohh |
| 01:50.08 | HopsNBarley | should be more like $299 though, or even $249. |
| 01:50.14 | HopsNBarley | "value pricing". |
| 01:50.14 | NAiL | oh well |
| 01:50.15 | HopsNBarley | sigh |
| 01:50.15 | NAiL | hehe |
| 01:50.21 | NAiL | gotta try to sleep again |
| 01:50.21 | NAiL | later |
| 01:50.28 | HopsNBarley | okay. good luck! |
| 01:50.34 | CoreDump|afk | slug + 250 disk was ~150¤ |
| 01:50.36 | CoreDump|afk | ;) |
| 02:02.46 | joshin | Stupid python bbfile has a depends line that includes tk. Somehow I don't think that tk & X is desired on the slug. |
| 02:03.55 | HopsNBarley | i've got that off in my branch too. just remove the dependency in python and it goes away. |
| 02:11.54 | joshin | I know. Thanks! I'm just thinking of submitting it as a bug and letting the devs fix it, yell at me for being lame, or ignore it. :) |
| 02:12.34 | HopsNBarley | we need use flags... |
| 02:14.11 | joshin | That's why I run Gentoo on my other slug. :) |
| 02:15.36 | HopsNBarley | yeah, how's that working out? |
| 02:16.11 | joshin | I like it. |
| 02:16.18 | HopsNBarley | if i could somehow crash ports and OE together.... |
| 02:16.25 | joshin | I use distcc to pawn off the compiling onto bigger hardware. |
| 02:16.55 | joshin | A slug with 64 or 128MB of ram would be about perfect. |
| 02:16.59 | HopsNBarley | how's gentoo on cross compiling? does emerge, et al. know how to make packages for others? |
| 02:17.14 | joshin | there is a useful tool called crossdev |
| 02:17.39 | joshin | I just have to run "crossdev -t <arch>' and it will build the environment for me. |
| 02:17.43 | HopsNBarley | storcenter has 64M, and it is perfect. i'm running apache/modphp/gallery/mt-daap/dnsmasq/openntpd, all fine |
| 02:17.46 | HopsNBarley | hey, nice. |
| 02:17.51 | HopsNBarley | i'll check that out. |
| 02:18.32 | joshin | My poor GentooSlug has spent the entire day building GCC 4.1.2 since it can't hand off the building of Stage2 and 3 to the big machines. :) |
| 02:19.17 | HopsNBarley | we could probably twist OE to make gentoo binary tars easily enough. that would help alot. |
| 02:21.46 | joshin | I've got my Gentoo install on a 1GB flash drive. I didn't bother installing the man pages, info docs, and other similar crap. I still have 350MB free. :) |
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| 02:22.31 | bkero_ | Ahoy all :) |
| 02:22.39 | joshin | Howdy! |
| 02:23.20 | joshin | bkero_: I just realized why my friend from OSU was so sad when duck season ended... :) |
| 02:23.38 | bkero_ | Heh |
| 02:23.42 | bkero_ | Bad joke. :P |
| 02:23.43 | joshin | He takes far too much pride in shooting ducks. I told him to stay away from Corvalis. |
| 02:23.51 | rwhitby | hey bkero_: did you get the webcam stuff sorted out? |
| 02:24.20 | bkero_ | rwhitby:Not yet, got some new stuff on my plate. |
| 02:43.35 | bkero_ | rwhitby:We got an EFIKA board, and we're fooling around with a couple of those too :) |
| 02:44.30 | rwhitby | bkero_: cool |
| 02:44.38 | rwhitby | bkero_: have you guys heard of openmoko? |
| 02:45.32 | bkero_ | Those are the cell phones, yes? |
| 02:46.56 | bkero_ | Platform :P |
| 02:47.25 | bkero_ | A couple of the devs at the OSL know quite a bit about the project, so I wouldn't be surprised if a couple were involved. |
| 02:51.31 | rwhitby | they were looking for mirrors - I told them they should contact osuosl ... |
| 02:58.21 | bkero_ | Ah |
| 02:58.54 | bkero_ | Wow, for being so 'open', they don't hav emuch on their site. :P |
| 03:02.24 | rwhitby | bkero_: wiki.openmoko.org |
| 03:04.03 | bkero_ | A bi tmore informative than their main page. Thanks. :) |
| 03:12.13 | bkero_ | How are complete are thumb instructions on 2.6.16? |
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| 04:53.48 | eno | rwhitby: there is a problem of python25-host-stage with one platform interfere with another |
| 04:54.10 | eno | i'm still thinking about the best way to deal with it |
| 04:54.14 | rwhitby | ok |
| 04:55.00 | eno | fortunately, 1) it won't happen if there's just one platform |
| 04:55.54 | eno | 2) force a nslu2 python25-host-stage makes the problem go away |
| 04:56.25 | eno | which is what i did on nudi a moment ago |
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| 09:18.39 | dwery | AwayNAiL: ping |
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| 12:44.12 | NAiL | dwery: pong |
| 12:51.19 | NAiL | eno: I had problems with erl-* when building here. They'd just hang. |
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| 13:40.00 | NAiL | dwery: I just gave them your addy |
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| 15:06.49 | joshin | Bah, my bug was closed since the dev thinks that since python-tkinter is the default gui for Python, the right behaviour is for OE is to build Python requiring X. Because so many Embedded Operating systems need X. |
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| 15:09.14 | joshin | Now I need to figure out why diet-x11 isn't building for slugos. |
| 15:15.03 | joshin | /bin/sh: line 1: 3687 Floating point exception../src/util/makekeys </home/josh/slug/slugosbe/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/X11/keysymdef.h >ks_tables_h |
| 15:15.03 | joshin | make[1]: *** [ks_tables.h] Error 136 |
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| 15:48.14 | eno | NAiL: has erlang build finished? erlang dialyzer component will take a long time |
| 15:48.50 | eno | erl-escript and erl-yaws all build fine on my local machine and on nudi |
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| 16:13.51 | NAiL | eno: well, that's good enough for me. Is "a long time" more than 30 mins? |
| 16:26.33 | eno | NAiL: 15minutes or so, of course depend on machine |
| 16:36.48 | joshin | Screw it, I just took tk out of the python bb file and built it. |
| 16:40.43 | NAiL | I was trying on a x64 3000+. After 30 minutes I just gave up. |
| 17:06.10 | eno | "Creating initial PLT (will take several minutes; please be patient)" if that's the last line, we're talking about the same thing |
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| 17:37.02 | jason0_ | Trying to compile lighttpd on my nslu2 but I get: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 17:37.03 | jason0_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.57 | HopsNBarley | what development package did you install? ie.compilers, etc. |
| 17:39.09 | jason0_ | HopsNBarley: Just realized I need to install build-essentail |
| 17:39.15 | jason0_ | *build-essential |
| 17:39.41 | HopsNBarley | yeah, getting gcc to work is not just installing gcc. (-; |
| 17:40.27 | jason0_ | I imagine it will take a long time to compile on nslu2 |
| 17:40.43 | HopsNBarley | think dinner and a movie, not coffee. |
| 17:41.22 | jason0_ | I tried setting up a build env. on my ubuntu x86_64 box using the script from nslu2-linux.org but got some errors I didn't know how to resolve |
| 17:43.45 | HopsNBarley | I got a 2.6.13 kernel up on my TS - i can ping it - but the serial output stops after the kernel decompresses. what did i blow? |
| 17:44.22 | HopsNBarley | jason0_, what kind of errors? did you use the master makefile? |
| 17:44.53 | jason0_ | Yeah I used the master makefile, it was awhile ago so I don't have the errors |
| 17:55.15 | jason0_ | Now I can't resolve gthread-2.0 apparently |
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| 19:32.57 | NAiL | dwery: ping? |
| 19:34.36 | NAiL | eno: Any idea on all the c++-related packages that fail? |
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| 23:23.58 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 23:37.53 | CoreDump|home | rwhitby: how do you like the "new" bastardized deploy-dir for ipk? |
| 23:38.40 | rwhitby | CoreDump|home: don't ask :-) |
| 23:39.59 | CoreDump|home | I wrote a mail regarding this crap to oe-devel and koen responded in his usual "friendly" manner. I answered that email as well but the list moderator needs to "ok" it |
| 23:40.19 | CoreDump|home | this is going to be fun |
| 23:41.49 | rwhitby | See http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/oe/oe.20070221.txt after 12:26:16 |
| 23:43.12 | CoreDump|home | I see you had a run-in w/ koen as well hehe |
| 23:43.19 | CoreDump|home | this impolite ass |
| 23:43.49 | rwhitby | back later |
| 23:43.51 | CoreDump|home | RFC, my ass. They didn't even wait for 24 hours before they changed the deploy dir |
| 23:43.59 | CoreDump|home | later rwhitby |
| 23:49.55 | CoreDump|home | hmmm, I should teach my bot to search your logs for keywords |
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