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| 06:05.56 | hillct | been messing around with OpenSlug 3.10 |
| 06:06.10 | hillct | can't find a logrotate package |
| 06:06.42 | hillct | seems others have had the same question but as yet no replies (mailing list). Anyone know where I should look? |
| 06:07.12 | hillct | or is this where i should bite the bullet and install the build enviroment? |
| 06:09.06 | eno | hillct: one option is http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosbe |
| 06:09.29 | rwhitby | OE only has the "logrotate-script" package. |
| 06:09.35 | hillct | d'oh. Not sure how I missed that |
| 06:09.49 | hillct | thanks |
| 06:11.13 | eno | in any case, setup the build env is always a good idea |
| 06:15.00 | hillct | yeah |
| 06:15.19 | hillct | anything beyond the current docs? Pitfalls I should be aware of? |
| 06:17.02 | rwhitby | "wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile ; make slugosbe" |
| 06:18.42 | hillct | rwhitby: that's for cross-compile right? I was going to do native |
| 06:18.56 | rwhitby | native is a loosing battle |
| 06:19.05 | hillct | I really need to re-read the docs on the build process |
| 06:19.13 | rwhitby | we do everything cross |
| 06:19.17 | hillct | ah |
| 06:20.38 | hillct | I'm smiling at the thought of a build farm of slugs on a shelf, with componants of the baowulf management suite on them to accept build jobs |
| 06:20.54 | hillct | that'd be fun to setup |
| 06:21.42 | hillct | there are points though, where even a true geek has to draw the line |
| 06:26.16 | DrZimmerman | lol |
| 06:26.23 | DrZimmerman | morning all :) |
| 06:28.14 | hillct | hi |
| 06:33.25 | hillct | eno: managing tow separate lists of installed ipk's will get ugly fast. While all optware should end up in /opt, there's the liklihood of a great deal of duplication of dependencies. Is there a recommended approach for mitigating this? |
| 06:36.57 | hillct | er s/tow/two/ |
| 06:37.05 | rwhitby | hillct: nope |
| 06:37.19 | rwhitby | they are meant to be kept completely separate. |
| 06:37.28 | hillct | hmm |
| 06:37.55 | rwhitby | if you want some optware stuff to be in OE, feel free to start adding .bb files ;-) |
| 06:38.09 | hillct | so in order to use, logrotate out of optware, I'd just hack up a config script and cron job |
| 06:38.14 | hillct | oh, I will |
| 06:38.22 | rwhitby | excellent! |
| 06:38.26 | hillct | just as soon as I get a better handle on the build process |
| 06:39.11 | rwhitby | hillct: what's your application for the slug? |
| 06:39.19 | hillct | I have all of 36 hours with oe, arm, the slug and embedded linux in general |
| 06:39.29 | hillct | home use |
| 06:40.29 | hillct | syslog server, file server for vmware instances, dd-wrt instances, backup for my laptop (rmirror or similar rsync deal) and Asterisk |
| 06:41.28 | hillct | not sure about asterisk yet. For the moment I'm still working on the config |
| 06:43.18 | hillct | besides doing a few builds of things I'll want to have, I was trhinking about putting together a file service web front end that eases SMB and NFS for Slug/OS BE |
| 06:43.42 | hillct | probably just a stripped and config'd Webmin |
| 06:44.46 | hillct | granted that's not the most optimized solution, but it could be setup to be almost turnkey |
| 06:45.07 | hillct | and webmin beats swat hands down |
| 06:46.15 | hillct | oh and I can't live without my lighttpd so that may be my first build & Package effort |
| 06:51.43 | hillct | is there a good primer that explains the relative roles of the various repositories? slugos-bag/optware/oe etc? |
| 06:54.50 | rwhitby | hillct: slugosbe and slugosle are the only main repos now |
| 06:54.56 | rwhitby | both are built from OE |
| 06:55.07 | rwhitby | the only difference between them is endianness. |
| 06:55.56 | rwhitby | optware is a set of packages that target various distributions and are designed to work "out of the box" with the vendor's firmware. One of the vendors happens to be slugosbe for the nslu2. |
| 06:56.20 | hillct | I guess I don't quite get what OE is overall |
| 06:56.25 | rwhitby | (but that is only a recent addition - the main focus of optware is for devices that run stock vendor firmware (or small variants thereof) |
| 06:56.42 | rwhitby | OE is a build system for embedded linux distributions. |
| 06:56.51 | rwhitby | and a set of metadata for package builds. |
| 06:57.25 | hillct | so a set of embedded distro standards and best practices |
| 06:57.35 | rwhitby | if you could do a web front-end for slugos that has similar features to the Linksys web gui, that'd be excellent! |
| 06:57.57 | hillct | I'm sure I could |
| 06:58.07 | rwhitby | more a set of patches and builds scripts that allow you to quickly develop a distro for a new device |
| 06:58.08 | hillct | but I thought the linksys interface sucked hard |
| 06:58.25 | rwhitby | that's why I said features, not look and feel :-) |
| 06:58.32 | hillct | heh |
| 07:00.03 | hillct | I really think Webmin is the way to go in that regard |
| 07:00.49 | hillct | it's highly flexible and should be possible to configure it for slugos architecture pretty easily |
| 07:01.39 | hillct | in case you havn't messed with webmin, it's an actually useful (and OSS) version of cPanel |
| 07:01.53 | rwhitby | yep, webmin would be good. |
| 07:02.01 | hillct | except that it's perl |
| 07:02.07 | hillct | which is big and bulky |
| 07:02.17 | rwhitby | and will be slow on the slug |
| 07:02.20 | hillct | though it's there and works |
| 07:03.05 | hillct | which is always a plus |
| 07:10.06 | hillct | A buddy of mine who at one point tried to turn his embedded systems hobby project into a career, with a rather impressive industrial controller modified for home automation, really got a kick out of the slug |
| 07:11.04 | hillct | his first thought was to get RS232 and X10 USB dongles so he can deploy http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/ ona slug |
| 07:12.19 | rwhitby | I believe there are people doing that already. |
| 07:15.56 | hillct | that wouldn't suprise me |
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| 09:26.04 | hrw | rwhitby: take a look at X-Wrt when it comes to web gui |
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| 10:06.42 | jacques | jbot, no botsnack for you! |
| 10:06.42 | jbot | :), jacques |
| 10:07.13 | jacques | jbot, did you not hear me correctly? You are in no way shape or form getting a botsnack! |
| 10:07.13 | jbot | jacques: :) |
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| 17:46.26 | hillct | what's the name of the OpenSlug ipkg repository config package for the OE repository? |
| 17:46.34 | hillct | Can't seem to find it |
| 18:10.01 | NAiL | ipkg repository config package? |
| 18:10.57 | NAiL | you mean which ipkg provides /etc/ipkg/*? |
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| 18:34.53 | VoodooZ | cool! I just flashed slugos 4.3 and it worked fine. |
| 18:35.36 | VoodooZ | The problem is turnup seems to try to mount my flashdisk root too fast. Is the -s<secs> option still working? |
| 18:36.18 | hillct | 4.3 i the dev release right? |
| 18:36.35 | VoodooZ | yep |
| 18:37.16 | VoodooZ | It took me a while to muster the courage to mess up my stable load though. :) |
| 18:37.27 | VoodooZ | Now let's see if I have regrets.... |
| 18:37.54 | hillct | heh |
| 18:38.30 | hillct | I may move to the dev build once I've put together a metapackage for my config |
| 18:39.05 | hillct | does it have the front panel disk usage LEDs working? |
| 18:39.19 | VoodooZ | probably not. Not sure... |
| 18:39.21 | VoodooZ | brb |
| 18:40.06 | hillct | I know that's silly but, assuming I can get a devent GUI put together, that'd be the only obvious impedement to class #1 (from the readme) users adopting it |
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| 18:52.53 | [FireFly] | running apex 1.4.15 from within redboot fails to boot debian etch rc1's apex version unless I build apex with "CONFIG_MMU=y", does anyone else have seen this strange behaviour? |
| 19:01.35 | NAiL | hillct: A semi-decent GUI is going to take a long, long time. |
| 19:03.07 | hillct | NAiL: I'm not certain that would be the case. I think Webmin could be properly configured for the slug reasonably easily |
| 19:03.18 | VoodooZ | NAiL: Is there a reason the -s delay option of turnup not working with beta4.3? |
| 19:03.20 | mwester | Webmin requires Perl, no? |
| 19:03.30 | hillct | yes |
| 19:03.34 | hillct | wouldd be a bit slow |
| 19:03.38 | hillct | but it would work |
| 19:05.00 | hillct | and it would easily provide nfs, smb and user mangement with next to no effort |
| 19:05.05 | hillct | I'll give it a shot |
| 19:05.13 | hillct | perhaps it will be too slow |
| 19:05.49 | mwester | I was assured that it wouldn't work when I suggested webmin a long time ago, but I don't know that anyone has really tried too hard. |
| 19:06.03 | mwester | I'm certainly interested in such a project... |
| 19:06.47 | NAiL | hillct: Last time I tried webmin, it was slow enough on a non-embedded device. |
| 19:07.02 | NAiL | throwing it up on a slug is seriously gonna be a real pain in the ass |
| 19:07.02 | mwester | (Not that I have anything against Unslung, just that I think we are missing a "bridge" between the limited Unslung functionality, and the generic SlugOS functionality) |
| 19:07.09 | hillct | I'd veveloped several custom modules for Duke university, on top of webmin. Found it quite usable |
| 19:07.20 | hillct | my only concern is performance |
| 19:07.31 | VoodooZ | this is my first time using the openNPE.. Do I need to copy the binary stuff somewhere specific? |
| 19:10.09 | VoodooZ | I see there's a NPE-B file under /lib/firmware but the eth0 intf didn't come up. |
| 19:14.35 | hillct | Geez |
| 19:14.44 | hillct | busybox can be built with a webserver |
| 19:14.49 | hillct | wow |
| 19:15.22 | hillct | if only it could be built with logrotate |
| 19:16.11 | hillct | logrotate-script just doesn't cut it as far as I can tell |
| 19:16.14 | mwester | hillct: it's not much of a webserver. |
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| 19:29.09 | mcdmx | hello all, someone from the Open Turbostation project hanging around? |
| 19:38.39 | hillct | mwester: I'm sure it isn't |
| 19:38.48 | hillct | still interesting that it has one |
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| 19:55.55 | NAiL | mcdmx: kinda ;-) |
| 19:56.04 | mcdmx | hey nail... |
| 19:56.20 | mcdmx | long time no see... |
| 19:56.23 | NAiL | yup |
| 19:57.03 | mcdmx | do you possess a Turbostation? |
| 19:57.44 | mcdmx | ok, wrong question... |
| 19:57.46 | NAiL | yeah |
| 19:57.48 | NAiL | TS-101 |
| 19:58.11 | mcdmx | NAiL: can you send me the u-boot patch from the open ts wiki? |
| 19:58.36 | mcdmx | it's only available for yahoo members :-( |
| 19:58.51 | NAiL | sure |
| 19:59.00 | mcdmx | still have my mail-addr? |
| 19:59.35 | NAiL | no |
| 19:59.40 | NAiL | there's two patches though |
| 19:59.43 | NAiL | I'll send you both |
| 19:59.54 | mcdmx | ok: irc-nick +users.sf.net |
| 20:00.03 | NAiL | thx |
| 20:00.09 | mcdmx | s/+/@ |
| 20:00.37 | mcdmx | i'm trying to build u-boot for the 101g+... |
| 20:00.51 | mcdmx | results so far: http://pastebin.ca/354078 |
| 20:01.34 | NAiL | mail sent |
| 20:01.40 | mcdmx | tnx! |
| 20:01.42 | NAiL | hmm... that error looks... odd |
| 20:02.19 | NAiL | What kind of flash chip is in the 101g+? |
| 20:02.34 | mcdmx | well, there are quite some changes between ppcboot (2002) and recent u-boot |
| 20:03.09 | mcdmx | Spansion SG29... |
| 20:06.20 | mcdmx | bbl... |
| 20:06.27 | NAiL | later |
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| 20:30.56 | NAiL | mcdmx: "Fix cfi failure with Spansion Flash (Spansion Flash Devices have a different offset to go into CFI mode)" <-- From changelog in u-boot 1.2.0. Relevant? |
| 20:31.51 | mcdmx | NAiL: i don't yet use CFI mode. But thanks for the hint. |
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| 22:12.31 | mcdmx | NAiL: flash is now working :D http://pastebin.ca/354311 |
| 22:12.53 | mcdmx | next thing will be the nic... |
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| 23:30.29 | hillct | what's the status of the port 1 and 2 LEDs under OpenSlug? I just noticed they're showing up as devices in dmesg |
| 23:32.50 | NAiL | they're available in /sys somewere |
| 23:32.59 | NAiL | s/were/where/ |
| 23:56.04 | hillct | NAiL: what m I looking at in /sys/class/leds/disk-1 ? |
| 23:56.15 | hillct | It's not a /proc filesystem... |
| 23:57.32 | hillct | I gotta read more I tihnk |