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| 11:06.06 | rwhitby | oleo: did the oleg and ddwrt feeds end up as you desired? |
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| 18:04.24 | Sconk | will the firemware work on the d-link dns-323 firmware later on? |
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| 19:38.50 | atari | hi |
| 19:39.54 | Sconk | hi |
| 19:40.33 | atari | is anyone using an usb network adapter on a nslu2? |
| 19:42.39 | atari | [g2]: did you do any speed benchmarks? |
| 19:43.11 | atari | [g2]: its about firewalling/routing nas just things with multiple network connections ;) |
| 19:44.18 | [g2] | 533Mhz IXP425 |
| 19:44.35 | [g2] | but really, you've got a ton of options |
| 19:45.07 | atari | nah. |
| 19:45.35 | [g2] | no you don't think you have a ton of options or you are just kidding ? |
| 19:47.06 | atari | i know there are a lot of other possibilities to do it... but first i want to know whether a usb-rj45 connector could be an alternative... |
| 19:49.55 | [g2] | atari the real question is how much traffic you are planning on supporting |
| 19:50.38 | [g2] | if you're plugged into the Internet your probably less than 10MBs and the stock slug is plenty fast to handle that if you don't have too many rules |
| 19:51.07 | [g2] | so it depends on how heavily you load the NAS part and what performance you are looking for from the NAS |
| 19:51.15 | atari | [g2]: something like 50mpbs second or so. (only routing no iptables) |
| 19:51.35 | atari | s/mpbs/mbps |
| 19:52.10 | [g2] | nod., 50mb is certainly achievable but your NAS performance will start to suffer |
| 19:52.20 | [g2] | you talking about DS3 reates |
| 19:52.24 | [g2] | s/reates/rates/ |
| 19:52.38 | atari | [g2]: 50mbps is the routing... the nas is only thought for about 1-2mbyte/s |
| 19:52.48 | atari | s/mbyte/mbit |
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| 19:53.26 | atari | [g2]: i want 50mbps routing into the dmz and about 1-2mbit into the internet |
| 19:53.27 | [g2] | so that's like 250KB/sec with isn't much |
| 19:54.09 | [g2] | so if you can handle packet latency/jitter then you probably don't have any issue |
| 19:54.30 | [g2] | if you are streaming VOIP and don't prioritize it, it'll probably be ugly |
| 19:54.37 | atari | nas is 1-2mbit/s. routing is 50mbps. so the usb rj45 adapter would need a speed support of 50mbps |
| 19:55.27 | atari | lets get back to the important question: which usb-rj45 adapter can do 50mbps? |
| 19:55.55 | [g2] | well for $39 I see 1000Mbs adapters, so I'm sure there are plenty |
| 19:56.13 | [g2] | I'm assuming you are not doing small packets (64 bytes) |
| 19:56.32 | atari | but which of them are supported under linux? and which of them do that speed really do... |
| 19:56.50 | [g2] | so, basically you are talking about just a handful of usb packets |
| 19:57.39 | atari | what do you mean with "usb packets"? |
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| 20:01.00 | iwo | hey, sorry for bugging you guys again :D is there anyone here that could give me a little advice on adding a new kernel module to unslung?? |
| 20:01.37 | iwo | progress so far: I have successfully build unslung-6.8-beta using the master makefile. |
| 20:01.48 | [g2] | atari Ok, on the laptop, the usb adapter just did nearly linerate on a 40MB xfer |
| 20:01.57 | [g2] | 40MB scp in 4 seconds |
| 20:02.11 | atari | MB=Mbyte, right? |
| 20:02.24 | [g2] | atari yes 10MB or 80MBs |
| 20:02.34 | [g2] | hence the "line rate" part |
| 20:02.57 | [g2] | about 11.xMBs is really line rate with interframe gaps etc.. |
| 20:03.06 | atari | i think that should be fast enough... what adapter do you use? under linux? |
| 20:03.17 | [g2] | + ethernet overhead and ip/tcp overhead |
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| 20:03.38 | atari | hehe |
| 20:03.51 | [g2] | atari I don't use them anymore, I'm almost all gigE now :) |
| 20:03.58 | atari | scp speed says enough ;) |
| 20:04.15 | atari | yeah. but with which adapter did you try it out? |
| 20:04.17 | [g2] | right, I get nearly 30MBs on the gigE via scp |
| 20:04.28 | [g2] | it's a linksys usb200M iirc |
| 20:04.37 | atari | cool :) |
| 20:04.46 | atari | i think i'll get one of these... |
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| 20:08.29 | [g2] | atari Ok, hold on a second |
| 20:08.51 | CIA-8 | 03avo * r5252 10optware/trunk/sources/ds101-kernel-modules/armeb-config: ds101-kernel-modules: removed ZISOFS - still no module for this |
| 20:09.20 | [g2] | atari My like may go a way for a minute |
| 20:09.39 | atari | hehe |
| 20:09.42 | atari | good luck ;) |
| 20:09.44 | [g2] | to make sure the traffic is going over eth1 |
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| 20:11.27 | [g2] | atari still there ? |
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| 20:12.20 | [g2] | atari Ok that was line rate over the usb2.0 adapter |
| 20:12.38 | [g2] | 40MB in 3.x seconds |
| 20:13.20 | [g2] | eth0 was down and ifconfig confims the bytes/packet counts on eth1 |
| 20:13.56 | [g2] | atari yeah... it's a USB200M |
| 20:14.41 | [g2] | atari what part of the world are you in ? |
| 20:14.57 | atari | [g2]: .ch |
| 20:15.53 | [g2] | hmmm.... /me wonders what shipping would be |
| 20:16.14 | [g2] | it's a tiny package. I'd sell you my usb200M for $10 US + shipping |
| 20:16.17 | atari | where are you? |
| 20:16.25 | [g2] | US |
| 20:16.41 | atari | isnt it a little bit early? ;) |
| 20:17.07 | atari | i can get one of these for about 25-30$... |
| 20:17.26 | atari | so shipping paying and all that would be more expensive than buy it in a store... :/ |
| 20:17.46 | [g2] | atari actually I sent something to DE for < $5 |
| 20:17.56 | atari | *wow* |
| 20:18.16 | [g2] | I had the same thought about shipping, but then I remembered that |
| 20:19.04 | [g2] | and the $5 item was about 3x the size |
| 20:19.55 | atari | i think shipping would be about 10$... shipping to .ch is more expensive than .de (usually) |
| 20:20.28 | atari | bank fee another 5$ (i assume at least) |
| 20:21.52 | atari | i found one for 1€ in .de |
| 20:22.09 | [g2] | :) |
| 20:23.40 | atari | but thank for the details about the usb200m :) |
| 20:23.45 | [g2] | np |
| 20:23.58 | [g2] | GL with your project |
| 20:24.27 | atari | yeah... seems that it will be a real hack... ;) |
| 20:24.37 | [g2] | that's fine |
| 20:25.27 | atari | hehe |
| 20:26.21 | iwo | hey, can anyone give me some help on adding a new kernel module to unslung?? |
| 20:26.26 | iwo | please :D |
| 20:27.22 | atari | sorry. i havent any experience with that... |
| 20:27.36 | atari | .oO( bad english )Oo. |
| 20:28.47 | NAiL | rwhitby: Yes, I build on ubuntu. Unfortunately, my laptop has died whil I was away. |
| 20:58.37 | iwo | no slug development gurus around 2night? :S |
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| 21:02.39 | [g2] | NAiL's development guru ! |
| 21:04.03 | NAiL | heh |
| 21:04.08 | NAiL | not on unslung |
| 21:04.19 | NAiL | never tried unslung :-\ |
| 21:06.14 | AdamBaker | I think the help iwo needs is with bitbake, I think the kernel building process is pretty similar between unslung and SlugOS |
| 21:07.08 | iwo | i guess if i forget about trying to add a package for this, my life will be easier... |
| 21:07.26 | iwo | it means i don't need to worry about the /install/unslung.kernel.package file |
| 21:07.47 | iwo | so basically, i just need to work out how to get my files compiled during the build... |
| 21:09.15 | AdamBaker | which probably means you need to apply your patch at the right point in the kernel build recipe and modify whichever defconfig bitbake is actually using |
| 21:10.09 | iwo | i've added some lines to the Makefile in .../linux-2.4.22/drivers/usb/ |
| 21:10.29 | iwo | that look like: |
| 21:12.19 | iwo | http://pastebin.co.uk/9399 |
| 21:13.19 | iwo | and i've added these two new strings into defconfig, like: |
| 21:13.56 | iwo | http://pastebin.co.uk/9400 |
| 21:18.27 | iwo | then i delete the unslung kernel compile stamp, and re-run: make unslung-6.8-beta |
| 21:18.47 | iwo | but the new files don't get build :( |
| 21:20.54 | iwo | built even |
| 21:23.26 | AdamBaker | do your defconfig changes survive the rebuild and is .config being recopied from defconfig? |
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| 21:25.18 | iwo | yes, the changes survive the rebuild... |
| 21:27.42 | iwo | where is .config? |
| 21:41.58 | iwo | interesting... when i check log.do_compile, the files i added *are* mentioned |
| 21:42.04 | iwo | they go into .depend |
| 21:45.32 | iwo | i think this is all a little bit too complex for my limited understanding of how unslung is built |
| 21:45.50 | iwo | i've created an optware package before, but this is a lot harder :D |
| 21:53.03 | rwhitby | iwo: you should be trying to do this as an out-of-kernel package, not by trying to modify the kernel we build. |
| 21:53.20 | rwhitby | (we don't usually add out-of-kernel modules to the base kernel) |
| 21:53.32 | rwhitby | there are some other examples of out-of-kernel packages in OE |
| 22:06.44 | iwo | is that what the current 'kernel-module-ov511' is? |
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| 22:34.00 | cbpage | iwo - yeah |
| 22:39.46 | iwo | in that case, shouldn't i already see some ov511 related stuff in /unslung/openembedded/packages?? |
| 22:42.36 | rwhitby | iwo: only if it's built by default |
| 22:44.04 | rwhitby | iwo: OV511 is an in-kernel module |
| 22:44.23 | rwhitby | CONFIG_USB_OV511=m |
| 22:44.48 | rwhitby | so the in-kernel module gets built automatically, due to the line in the defconfig file. |
| 22:45.12 | rwhitby | unless the support is already in the kernel (and can simply be enabled), then it has to be done as an out-of-kernel module |
| 22:45.33 | rwhitby | have a look at packages/spca5xx for instance. |
| 22:45.39 | iwo | so instead, i should add a new folder in /unslung/openembedded/packages, and create a .bb file |
| 22:45.57 | rwhitby | yes, for an out-of-kernel module (just like spca5xx) |
| 22:46.27 | iwo | ah, excellent (thanks!) |
| 22:46.35 | rwhitby | then we can add that to OE and make it available for both Unslung and SlugOS (and other OE distros too) |
| 22:46.45 | iwo | do you have any idea why the setup-env script doesn't seem to work? |
| 22:46.59 | iwo | i make it executable (chmod a+x) |
| 22:47.09 | iwo | then i run it (./setup-env) |
| 22:47.16 | rwhitby | did you type "make" first? |
| 22:47.19 | iwo | but i still cant use the command bb or bitbake |
| 22:47.40 | rwhitby | you need to source the setup-env script to make it change your running environment. |
| 22:47.58 | rwhitby | if you execute it as a child process, then it can't change the environment of the parent |
| 22:48.06 | rwhitby | (that's why it's not executable) |
| 22:49.55 | iwo | what do you mean by 'source' it? |
| 22:51.48 | caplink811 | enter source scriptname in a bash shell... |
| 22:52.27 | iwo | ok |
| 22:52.47 | iwo | thanks for your help rwhitby, i have a much better idea of what the hell i'm doing now! :) |
| 22:53.12 | iwo | i think i got confused by assuming that i should try and copy the way that the ov511 driver is built. |
| 22:53.21 | rwhitby | iwo: np - I'm always ready to help someone who's going to be contributing new drivers. |
| 22:53.42 | rwhitby | (just make sure you follow through on your part of the deal ;-) |
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| 23:03.12 | iwo | :) |
| 23:09.30 | iwo | okay, i'm off. thanks for the advice rwhitby! |
| 23:09.51 | iwo | i'll be back to bug you tomorrow :D |
| 23:09.52 | rwhitby | iwo: np |
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