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| 01:05.02 | rwhitby | morning |
| 01:05.09 | Weltto | hello |
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| 01:24.29 | kfm82 | ping |
| 01:24.35 | kfm82_ | pong |
| 01:25.03 | Weltto | pong2 |
| 01:26.10 | kfm82 | Weltto: thanks, i am just trying to decide whether to use BitchX or irssi on my slug |
| 01:26.29 | Weltto | i prefer irssi |
| 01:27.02 | kfm82 | i am leaning towards it myself, currently writing from there... have been using xchat (x11 & aqua) so far, steep learning curve ahead |
| 01:27.29 | kfm82 | for starters, how do i enable logging? that's a faq i'm sure |
| 01:27.59 | Weltto | http://irssi.org/documentation |
| 01:30.01 | Weltto | irssi has quite good /help |
| 01:32.43 | Weltto | i've coded some simple scripts for irssi. that is easy way to start perl coding. it allow hardware highlighting with slug :) |
| 01:36.37 | kfm82 | Weltto: hardware highlighting!? as in making the slug's front panel leds flash and blink? |
| 01:38.00 | Weltto | kfm82: example relay. and that is controlling example smoke machine :) |
| 01:40.03 | kfm82 | smoke is controlled via irc? |
| 01:40.18 | Weltto | yep |
| 01:40.52 | kfm82 | neat! |
| 01:50.16 | Weltto | but simple microcontroller at serial or usb-port would help a lot. |
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| 08:35.57 | likewise | good morning |
| 08:39.54 | NAiL | morning |
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| 08:45.51 | likewise | morning guys |
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| 08:54.12 | likewise | morning rwhitby-away |
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| 09:01.48 | NAiL | morning rwhitby-away |
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| 19:38.01 | likewise | hii fooks |
| 19:38.08 | HopsNBarley | howdy likewise |
| 19:38.10 | likewise | s/hii/hi |
| 19:38.15 | likewise | hey there! |
| 19:38.52 | likewise | HopsNBarley: have you looked at (dev) boards for the MPC8343? |
| 19:39.02 | HopsNBarley | got some timings on my storcenter... it goes wirespeed on my 100Mb hub w/http. don't have a gigabit one yet )-; |
| 19:39.15 | likewise | ok nice |
| 19:39.19 | HopsNBarley | I've got an MPC 8349 board, big brother. |
| 19:39.34 | likewise | which one, and how many $$$? |
| 19:39.39 | HopsNBarley | ...or was it the 8347? haven't used it in a while. |
| 19:39.54 | HopsNBarley | we got it from freescale. as i recall, it was around $1500. |
| 19:40.19 | likewise | but why do you use the storcenter then? I thought you were looking for a 'close' match to your future product? |
| 19:40.41 | HopsNBarley | they are both 603e core. |
| 19:41.11 | HopsNBarley | and we haven't yet found a commodity 834x product at a low enough price point. |
| 19:42.03 | likewise | ASP8347DB maybe? |
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| 19:46.27 | HopsNBarley | the rattler board looks nice, but i can't find a price yet... |
| 19:48.10 | HopsNBarley | wow - E631. a bit much for a file server (-; |
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| 19:58.16 | likewise | HopsNBarley|eat: yes, I think the rattler board (both the 83xx and 85xx) can plug into a motherboard. |
| 19:59.10 | HopsNBarley|eat | likewise, yeah, same as the MPC8349 i have. |
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| 20:02.46 | likewise | HopsNBarley|eat: What model storcenter did you have again? (sorry, lost the little notes on my desk...) |
| 20:12.31 | CIA-8 | 03nail * r4507 10optware/trunk/sources/buildroot/ (3 files): buildroot: Add missing files for TS-101 |
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| 20:52.51 | HopsNBarley | likewise, it's the "network disk 250G" |
| 20:58.18 | dwery | NAiL: so.. how is your new nas performing when compared to the nslu2? |
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| 21:21.40 | HopsNBarley | dwery, got a sec? |
| 21:21.54 | dwery | HopsNBarley: sure! |
| 21:22.57 | HopsNBarley | thanks. as i think we chatted before, i'd like to move up my kernel release, but only have those 2.6.12 patches. can you suggest a method? any tips or tricks or doc pointers appreciated. |
| 21:23.31 | dwery | I can suggest to reduce the patchset to the minimum required, thus removing the drivers |
| 21:23.46 | dwery | and then trying with kernel version x+1 |
| 21:24.02 | HopsNBarley | okay, so in this case that includes the rtl8169 ethernet and RTC, okay to remove those? |
| 21:24.14 | dwery | sure, they are not required for a proper boot |
| 21:24.24 | dwery | you should first test your reduced oatchset with .12 |
| 21:24.31 | HopsNBarley | wasn't sure about the rtc. thanks. |
| 21:24.40 | HopsNBarley | good pointer. then just x++, eh? |
| 21:24.48 | dwery | yes! |
| 21:25.13 | dwery | you will probably have compilation problems at some point, because some routines have been changed |
| 21:25.23 | dwery | but since we have been there before with the ixp4xx |
| 21:25.27 | dwery | we might all be helpful. |
| 21:25.59 | NAiL | dwery: it's very nice ;) |
| 21:26.03 | NAiL | I haven't benchmarked it yet |
| 21:26.08 | HopsNBarley | great. and, there are also number other "family members" in the freescale 8[235]xx series i can look to for hints. |
| 21:26.11 | dwery | if your rtc is supported by the new class subsystem you don't even have to forward-port the patch |
| 21:26.56 | dwery | HopsNBarley: are you planning to do it now? |
| 21:27.37 | HopsNBarley | not NOW, but soon, i'll probably start once thankgiving holiday has passed. |
| 21:27.46 | HopsNBarley | the rtc is a dallas 1337, btw. |
| 21:29.18 | dwery | 1337...mm probably not (yet) supported.. I'll have to check |
| 21:29.35 | dwery | if the registers are compatible with 1307 we have a driver |
| 21:29.45 | dwery | otherwise I'll write one :) |
| 21:29.45 | HopsNBarley | cool. |
| 21:30.07 | HopsNBarley | nice: do you prefer borolo or barbaresco? (-; |
| 21:30.17 | dwery | barolo, thanks :p |
| 21:31.08 | dwery | in just a few kernel releases the rtc subsyste, reached more than 15 drivers... i wouldn't be surprised to see a 1337 one coming :) |
| 21:31.52 | dwery | there were 20 drivers in .18-rc6 |
| 21:32.30 | NAiL | s/be/bed |
| 21:32.32 | NAiL | nite |
| 21:32.41 | dwery | nite |
| 21:33.29 | HopsNBarley | dwery, an abstraction layer was added for RTC? |
| 21:33.50 | dwery | yes |
| 21:33.54 | dwery | actually, I added it :) |
| 21:34.30 | HopsNBarley | nice! i'm looking forward to getting my hands dirty in the kernel. |
| 21:41.15 | likewise | nite |
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| 22:44.36 | HopsNBarley | NAiL, thanks for coming to our rescue on the list (-; |
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| 22:58.57 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley: ping |
| 22:59.08 | HopsNBarley | rwhitby, pong. |
| 22:59.15 | rwhitby | nice web site |
| 22:59.40 | HopsNBarley | rwhitby, thanks! i think we are past the tech. difficulties. we made some amateur mistakes in our first outing with tikiwiki. |
| 22:59.41 | rwhitby | I'd like to put a wiki-group up on nslu2-linux - on the right hand side with the FSG-3, NAS100d, etc. |
| 23:00.02 | rwhitby | Is "StorCenter" the right word to use? |
| 23:00.14 | HopsNBarley | that's the name of the iomega product. |
| 23:00.30 | rwhitby | right - those pages reference the hardware target |
| 23:00.35 | HopsNBarley | did you find the pictures you were after? They are there now. |
| 23:00.52 | rwhitby | yep |
| 23:01.06 | rwhitby | is pak on IRC ? |
| 23:01.30 | HopsNBarley | yeah, as pak (he of little imagination :-) |
| 23:01.39 | HopsNBarley | i finally talked him into it yesterday. |
| 23:01.41 | rwhitby | pak: hi |
| 23:01.58 | HopsNBarley | i don't think he is at the computer at the moment. |
| 23:02.09 | rwhitby | pak: sorry about the spam accusation on the mailing list - I should have briefed the list before your message |
| 23:02.14 | HopsNBarley | thanks for coming to our rescue on the list. |
| 23:02.26 | HopsNBarley | no worries. |
| 23:02.53 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * r4508 10optware/trunk/Makefile: Makefile: fixed a typo of ts101 OPTWARE_TARGET test |
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| 23:04.54 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley, pak: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/StorCenter/HomePage <- feel free to put an overview there, including direct links to pictures and hardware description, and also state your goals as far as community interaction with nslu2-linux goes. |
| 23:05.33 | HopsNBarley | awesome. i'm working on an article now for the site on the size of the embedded developer community. |
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| 23:06.19 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley: have you seen www.nslu2-linux.org/presentation.pdf ? |
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| 23:14.56 | likewise | rwhitby: I surely like the use of the meritocracy statement in there. |
| 23:15.45 | [g2] | HopsNBarley the embedded developer community is easily > 10-20K ppl |
| 23:15.57 | likewise | signing off, bed time for me. |
| 23:16.04 | rwhitby | night likewise |
| 23:16.04 | [g2] | sweet dreams |
| 23:16.04 | likewise | [g2]: hi, cu later |
| 23:16.07 | likewise | tnx |
| 23:16.33 | likewise | have a nice evening |
| 23:17.37 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley: I have a serious reservation about the current state of OpenProtium |
| 23:17.57 | rwhitby | You have binary firmware available for download, but no source. |
| 23:18.17 | rwhitby | I know the source is coming, but really the source *must* come before (or at the same time) as the binary. |
| 23:18.35 | rwhitby | Do you have a tarball you can put somewhere? |
| 23:19.48 | HopsNBarley | nice presentation. |
| 23:50.44 | HopsNBarley | we asked for a key a week ago (-; |
| 23:51.40 | rwhitby | yeah, that's my fault :-) |
| 23:54.30 | HopsNBarley | we'll pull the download for now, until i can get either a tarball together, or get patches upstream, or some combo of both. |
| 23:55.23 | HopsNBarley | i'm hoping we can work together on some next-gen slugos that is a bit less slug dependent. |
| 23:55.38 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley: see #oe :-) |
| 23:57.11 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley: thanks for taking the issue of source availability seriously. |
| 23:59.04 | HopsNBarley | rwhitby, absolutely. |