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| 00:51.02 | wildcat44g | Hi again |
| 00:52.19 | wildcat44g | I unslung my slug to a flash drive and when I went to try to change it to my 200 gb hdd the whole thing crashed and now I can't log into it at all even by the web browser |
| 00:53.09 | wildcat44g | I don't know if it has a different ip address now or not |
| 00:53.56 | drif | what do you mean by changing it to 200gig hdd? |
| 00:54.23 | wildcat44g | I changed my mind about where I was going to be unslinging the slug to |
| 00:55.27 | wildcat44g | my flash drive is only a 512 mb drive |
| 00:57.05 | wildcat44g | knoppix and windows can't find my slug now but knoppix can see and read the 200 gb drive |
| 01:01.01 | wildcat44g | I had the drive plugged into my machine to see if knoppix could see if I had lost my data or not |
| 01:04.06 | wildcat44g | can I reflash my slug without being able to find or telnet into the slug? |
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| 01:10.55 | wildcat44g | hi every1 |
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| 01:46.53 | wildcat44g | ugh I'm starting to think I killed my slug |
| 01:54.03 | rwhitby | slugs are hard to kill - you can always reflash in upgrade mode for a clean start. |
| 01:55.12 | wildcat44g | how do I do that when windows can't find it by telnet or the network browser |
| 01:55.44 | wildcat44g | or can I use knoppix to transfer the firmware? |
| 02:20.25 | wildcat44g | I'm in upgrade mode and getting weird blinking when I scan my network to try to find it but turn up nothing though |
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| 02:28.37 | wildcat44g | I tried tha upload tool but it doesn't work with my copy of windows xp sp2 pro |
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| 02:42.36 | wildcat44g | would sercomms interNAS_setup tool work to upload unslung? |
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| 02:47.53 | wildcat44g | can I flash the firmware automatically if I move a good copy of unslung to an external usb drive since windows and knoppix can't find my slug? |
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| 03:16.37 | int2str | Hi all! |
| 03:16.48 | int2str | Is there a gentoo-nslu2 specific channel you guys know about? |
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| 09:29.10 | like2wise | anyone else got this error? (openslug on an IXDP425) INIT: version 2.86 booting /etc/init.d/rcS: /etc/init.d/rcS: 17: mount: not found |
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| 09:43.39 | blaster8 | are you building HEAD? |
| 09:45.57 | likewise | yes |
| 09:46.24 | blaster8 | then don't |
| 09:46.31 | likewise | blaster8: yes, but it seems the default busybox .config does not set CONFIG_{MOUNT,UMOUNT} |
| 09:46.43 | blaster8 | yes, we install our own from coreutils |
| 09:47.00 | rwhitby | blaster8: likewise is building for a different board, and understands that head is unstable at the moment |
| 09:47.34 | blaster8 | ok, but as long as it is clear that HEAD is broken on all targets except NSLU2 BE atm |
| 09:49.29 | likewise | blaster8: yep, IXDP425 BE here. |
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| 09:49.57 | blaster8 | IXDP is not == NSLU2, mind |
| 09:50.00 | blaster8 | different peripheral |
| 09:50.12 | blaster8 | ok, can you check tmp/rootfs |
| 09:50.18 | blaster8 | Look for sbin/mount |
| 09:50.22 | blaster8 | simple checks first |
| 09:51.03 | likewise | blaster8: I have both, and a third custom IXP4xx board. My aim is to develop on the IXDP425, work towards the custom board. |
| 09:51.31 | blaster8 | ok, that sounds good |
| 09:51.49 | blaster8 | theoretically, the 2 ethernet ports on the IXDP should work atm |
| 09:51.55 | blaster8 | if you can get it to boot, that is ;) |
| 09:53.28 | likewise | blaster8: In some sense, I think it is best for me to stick with the stable openslug build, but I need up-to-date graphics libraries like cairo/freetype. |
| 09:53.52 | blaster8 | First, I would see if the stable build works at all |
| 09:53.58 | blaster8 | Then we know if we have a regression |
| 09:54.21 | blaster8 | I don't know if we ever had the IXDP as a successful development target |
| 09:54.55 | NAiL | likewise: would it be a problem to backport cairo/freetype to 3.10? |
| 09:55.06 | likewise | blaster8: I did that over half a year ago, directly from OE (no mastermakefile) and I am following the same approach now with HEAD. Indeed it seems that much has changed since. |
| 09:55.26 | blaster8 | SlugOS 4.x is currently in a pre-alpha state |
| 09:55.29 | likewise | NAiL: probably not, I should take that road it seems. |
| 09:55.36 | blaster8 | That's your main problem |
| 09:56.00 | likewise | How can I stick to the stable build, not using the MasterMake file, but with conf/local.conf only? |
| 09:56.15 | blaster8 | no way of doing that |
| 09:56.19 | NAiL | huh? |
| 09:56.43 | blaster8 | Use the Master Makefile |
| 09:56.54 | NAiL | ... |
| 09:56.54 | blaster8 | make openslug-3.10-beta should do it |
| 09:57.40 | NAiL | or svn co http://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/slugos/releases/slugos-3.10-beta/ slug/ |
| 09:57.47 | NAiL | (I think that path is correct) |
| 09:58.02 | blaster8 | either will work, NAiL's version is cleaner |
| 09:59.40 | likewise | But I have a remaining question: How was 3.10-beta tagged in time? Using bb package version, or was the monotone repository copied, or its revision? |
| 09:59.51 | blaster8 | monotone repository copied |
| 09:59.57 | blaster8 | and pushed to SVN |
| 10:00.19 | likewise | blaster8: ah! That I didn't suspect. I expected that I could extract some revision out of MTN. |
| 10:00.22 | NAiL | it *should* have been tagged in mtn as well, but that was forgotten. |
| 10:00.29 | blaster8 | ;) |
| 10:00.43 | NAiL | you could figure out the revision, but that'd take some time ;) |
| 10:00.47 | blaster8 | NAiL: Anyway, we do some maintenance once it is SVN anyway |
| 10:00.51 | likewise | ok, that clears some issues for me. I should really work against the 0.24 0.25 mtn repo? |
| 10:01.02 | blaster8 | ? 0.24 0.25 |
| 10:01.07 | blaster8 | no |
| 10:01.25 | blaster8 | if you are confused, foolproof way of building is: |
| 10:01.31 | blaster8 | download Master Makefile |
| 10:01.36 | blaster8 | make openslug-3.10-beta |
| 10:01.46 | likewise | ok, i was reading this on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile |
| 10:01.48 | blaster8 | that will pull from SVN and build |
| 10:02.05 | blaster8 | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile |
| 10:02.12 | blaster8 | read that, more up-to-dat ;) |
| 10:02.32 | likewise | blaster8: ok, I will just follow that and than proceed from there. Thanks for explaining the background, you as well NAiL. |
| 10:02.52 | blaster8 | If the 3.10 build doesn't work either, come back to HEAD |
| 10:04.32 | likewise | blaster8: I will first see if there is a more generic distro in OE available, although I will move off the beaten path then (not good). |
| 10:04.35 | NAiL | if the 3.10 build doesn't work, tell me ;) |
| 10:05.29 | blaster8 | NAiL: You know C right? |
| 10:05.36 | blaster8 | need help |
| 10:06.14 | NAiL | blaster8: barely |
| 10:06.18 | blaster8 | that'll do |
| 10:06.22 | blaster8 | http://www.hohnstaedt.de/ixp_npe/IxNpeMicrocode.h |
| 10:06.29 | blaster8 | #if __BYTE_ORDER == __LITTLE_ENDIAN |
| 10:06.50 | blaster8 | how can I set little endian here? From an environment variable? |
| 10:07.31 | NAiL | no, there's another way, I just can't remember :P |
| 10:07.59 | NAiL | something like -D__BYTE_ORDER=__LITTLE_ENDIAN when compiling |
| 10:08.00 | blaster8 | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/If.html |
| 10:08.45 | blaster8 | ok |
| 10:09.05 | NAiL | but won't __LITTLE_ENDIAN be undefined if we're compiling BE? In that case you could do #ifdef __LITTLE_ENDIAN instead, no? |
| 10:09.48 | blaster8 | but I need to byteswap the firmware, but only for DebianSlug |
| 10:10.48 | blaster8 | NAiL: I think you're right about the -D option |
| 10:11.51 | blaster8 | The logic will be in the BB file |
| 10:12.25 | NAiL | uh, does bitbake know the difference between LE and BE? |
| 10:12.28 | blaster8 | yes |
| 10:12.34 | blaster8 | '${ARCH_BYTE_SEX}' |
| 10:12.37 | NAiL | ah, good |
| 10:12.41 | blaster8 | defined in the distro conf files |
| 10:12.51 | NAiL | nothing to worry about then :) |
| 10:12.53 | blaster8 | otherwise, how could it mangle the kernel? |
| 10:12.57 | NAiL | that's the easier way |
| 10:18.51 | blaster8 | hmm |
| 10:23.47 | blaster8 | isn't working, not sure why |
| 10:38.23 | blaster8 | sorted it |
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| 12:08.11 | likewise | NAiL: Idea: suppose I take the current OE/org.openembedded.dev branch, can I make my own distro that has the exact set of preferred versions that matches openslug 3.10-beta? |
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| 12:14.45 | blaster8 | Not necessarily |
| 12:14.58 | blaster8 | Build SlugOS 3.10 and see if it runs |
| 12:15.10 | blaster8 | If it does not, then we will fix HEAD |
| 12:18.38 | likewise | blaster8: I would like to work against the www.openembedded.org mtn org.openembedded.branch (I have multiple targets to maintain, not only IXP4xx). |
| 12:19.11 | blaster8 | Well, lets first see if there is a regression between 3.10 and HEAD |
| 12:19.26 | blaster8 | That will help us fix HEAD so it actually boots |
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| 12:31.30 | likewise | blaster8: ok, machine is chewing away at buidling 3.10. |
| 12:31.30 | blaster8 | sorry to send you the long way round |
| 12:31.37 | likewise | NAiL: any idea whereabouts upstream monotone should have been tagged for 3.10? |
| 12:32.02 | blaster8 | Clue here: http://www.slug-firmware.net/s-dls.php |
| 12:32.08 | blaster8 | (Date) |
| 12:32.16 | likewise | blaster8: np, always good to start off from something well tested. My own test base is well... me alone |
| 12:32.25 | blaster8 | that's the problem |
| 12:32.52 | blaster8 | We're really happy if you can get SlugOS to support the IXDP425 and eventually your own custom machine |
| 12:33.21 | blaster8 | but first we need to get this bit of debugging going |
| 12:33.27 | likewise | blaster8: I think I had SlugOS run on my IXDP425 already, but I was pulling from OpenEmbedded then (let me check its date, I have it here I think) |
| 12:34.06 | blaster8 | You have checked that /sbin/mount exists on your root partition, right? |
| 12:34.18 | likewise | yes, it did not |
| 12:34.48 | blaster8 | why ever not... were you building OpenSlug stock or with modifications |
| 12:35.58 | blaster8 | In slugos-image.bb RDEPENDS there is 'util-linux-mount' |
| 12:36.12 | blaster8 | at least on my machine |
| 12:36.22 | likewise | blaster8: I worked with the www.openembedded.org MTN, branch org.openembedded.dev, wrote a small local.conf for my config, and ran off. |
| 12:36.27 | likewise | blaster8: double checking that |
| 12:36.31 | blaster8 | well that's why then |
| 12:36.37 | blaster8 | you said you were building OpenSlug |
| 12:36.44 | blaster8 | and you're not building OpenSlug at all |
| 12:36.52 | blaster8 | you're building your own custom distro |
| 12:37.30 | blaster8 | please make clear what you are doing, as we all assume that the people who walk through the door of this IRC channel are doing something standard |
| 12:37.54 | blaster8 | like building the openslug target, rather than a target all of their own |
| 12:37.56 | blaster8 | ok |
| 12:38.30 | blaster8 | Step 1: You're best solution if you want support from us is to build an NSLU2-Linux target |
| 12:39.04 | likewise | blaster8: I was/am confused about the interdependency of th repo on www.openembedded.org and the NLSU2 repository. |
| 12:39.17 | blaster8 | OK |
| 12:39.36 | blaster8 | It's simple |
| 12:39.40 | likewise | I worked from the MTN @ OE.org, MACHINE="ixp4xx" DISTRO = "openslug" |
| 12:39.53 | likewise | so for long I was assuming I was building the OpenSlug distro. |
| 12:40.01 | blaster8 | No your not, sorry |
| 12:40.10 | blaster8 | argh |
| 12:40.14 | blaster8 | you're/your confusion |
| 12:40.36 | blaster8 | If you want to build OpenSlug, download the Master Makefile |
| 12:40.45 | blaster8 | and type 'make openslug' |
| 12:41.04 | likewise | yep, understand that now. You guys have explained the differences to me. |
| 12:41.36 | blaster8 | You are missing the contents of packages/images/slugos-image.bb from your custom distro, btw |
| 12:41.48 | likewise | blaster8: just for the record, then what am I binding when building the openslug distro from OE.org? |
| 12:42.09 | blaster8 | You're building the distro |
| 12:42.26 | blaster8 | but for whatever reason you're not building a correct boot image |
| 12:42.38 | blaster8 | as you can't be building slugos-image, or you would have util-linux-mount |
| 12:46.20 | NAiL | likewise: there's two commits shortly after eachother, one changing the version to 3.10-beta, and one after that changing it to 4.0-beta IIRC. |
| 12:46.55 | NAiL | (in the monotone repo) |
| 12:47.10 | NAiL | the one changing the version to 3.10 should've been tagged. |
| 13:15.24 | blaster8 | point :) |
| 13:25.21 | blaster8 | likewise: ping |
| 13:25.37 | blaster8 | you doing OK now? |
| 13:25.53 | likewise | building... |
| 13:25.57 | blaster8 | right |
| 13:26.25 | blaster8 | same here, actually - I'm doing a total rebuild just to check all is working and go back to a clean start |
| 13:27.22 | likewise | blaster8: where is the local.conf located? I just did a grep for it, without result. (I want it to point to my global download dir, as its downloading pkgs I suspect I already downloaded). |
| 13:34.06 | blaster8 | ok easy fix |
| 13:34.15 | blaster8 | local.conf is in openslug/conf/local.conf |
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| 13:34.37 | blaster8 | but I simply symlink downloads in the Makefile build directory to my global downloads |
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| 14:12.19 | likewise | blaster8: could it be called auto.conf instead? No local.conf here |
| 14:17.00 | blaster8 | no - it should be there, I think |
| 14:17.20 | blaster8 | For now I would symlink downloads |
| 14:22.43 | likewise | blaster8: no local.conf. find -regex '.*local\.conf$' (I symlinked downloads indeed.) |
| 14:23.04 | likewise | blaster8: where are you from blaster8? .nl here |
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| 14:32.48 | blaster8 | allo |
| 14:33.00 | blaster8 | sorry only intermittently here |
| 14:33.09 | blaster8 | have you run make setup-openslug |
| 14:34.36 | likewise | blaster8: no, immediately ran make openslug-3.10 (as NAiL mentioned) |
| 14:35.04 | blaster8 | well, either should create the openslug directory with local.conf inside |
| 14:35.16 | blaster8 | not sure what has happened there |
| 14:35.24 | blaster8 | still, do you need local.conf right now? |
| 14:35.51 | blaster8 | change packages/images/slugos-image.bb if you need extra stuff in the image |
| 14:47.31 | likewise | blaster8: no, it's just that I wanted to learn to what extend this openembedded build differs from what I have learned so far. |
| 14:55.35 | likewise | Do builds on 64-bit hosts still result in larger executables etc.? Both heard this on #oe as well as read this on the NLSU2 wiki. |
| 14:55.57 | blaster8 | no idea |
| 14:56.13 | blaster8 | I'd recommend building on i386 Debian Etch |
| 14:56.42 | likewise | blaster8: asking on #oe right now. |
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