| 00:04.12 | jacques | heh |
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| 00:19.03 | philpem | http://wolf.philpem.me.uk/ --> woohoo! :) |
| 00:19.26 | philpem | gave up on cross-compiling and just built it on the slug. |
| 00:19.36 | philpem | life's too short to faff around with gcc. |
| 00:19.44 | jacques | heh |
| 00:20.55 | philpem | "GNU Autoconf. Making porting software hard since 1995." |
| 00:21.27 | jacques | argh, well my personal enemy is libtool |
| 01:08.36 | [g2] | philpem is that lockup problem resolved ? |
| 01:16.30 | philpem | g2: yep |
| 01:16.49 | philpem | [wolf.philpem.me.uk] 01:16:24 up 1 day, 7:59, 1 user, load average: 2.46, 2.33, 2.68 |
| 01:17.08 | philpem | -[wolf.philpem.me.uk]- 01:16:24 up 1 day, 7:59, 1 user, load average: 2.46, 2.33, 2.68 |
| 01:17.28 | philpem | ok, for some reason my messages are appearing in the Channel Monitor but not the channel window.. odd.. |
| 01:27.29 | [g2] | super so moving over to the later baseline helped |
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| 02:24.49 | EvilDevil[away] | how can i automatically find out(in a shell script) what partition type (Linux/Swap) is set for a partition. |
| 02:24.52 | EvilDevil[away] | ? |
| 02:25.04 | EvilDevil[away] | right now i got this: fdisk -l /dev/sda | grep -e "^/dev/sd[a-z.][0-9.]" |
| 02:25.43 | EvilDevil[away] | and i want to separate the last column |
| 02:32.00 | EvilDevil[away] | okay... this works somehow: fdisk -l /dev/sda | grep -e "^/dev/sd[a-z.][0-9.]" | grep -e "Linux$" | cut -d " " -f 1 |
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| 07:58.27 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/w3m.mk): w3m ready for cross testing, for the 3rd time, this should be it |
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| 09:09.54 | pepijn | tbm: running d-i now |
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| 10:23.41 | pepijn | morning, philpem :) |
| 10:52.38 | philpem | morning pepijn |
| 10:56.40 | pepijn | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:56.52 | pepijn | s/you/your/ |
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| 11:23.00 | pepijn | hpmf... why do powerbuttons always have a light on them |
| 11:23.25 | pepijn | irresistable to small kids ... my son just pressed the power on the slug ;) |
| 11:32.02 | philpem | heh |
| 11:40.18 | philpem | why on earth did i just install php + mysql on the slug? |
| 11:40.55 | pepijn | not performing too well ? |
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| 12:04.51 | tbm | pepijn: and? |
| 12:05.08 | eFfeM | morning all |
| 12:06.04 | NAiL | morning |
| 12:11.22 | eFfeM | had problems with file-native the other day, I now started from scratch and everything hums along, no idea what was wrong |
| 12:17.45 | pepijn | this was mentioned here and on the mailinglist |
| 12:18.26 | NAiL | yup |
| 12:18.33 | NAiL | as well as dropbear |
| 12:18.47 | pepijn | tbm: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=356480 |
| 12:18.57 | pepijn | yes, dropbear 0.48 had the same problem |
| 12:19.23 | tbm | pepijn: yeah, just saw it, thanks |
| 12:20.30 | pepijn | any clue about the TERM problem? |
| 12:20.55 | pepijn | i mean, your screendumps look ok, so what is different here? |
| 12:22.48 | tbm | just woke up, haven't read the report yet. hold on a bit |
| 12:23.33 | pepijn | any suggestions? |
| 12:23.47 | pepijn | local domain, jsut a small number of hosts |
| 12:23.55 | pepijn | not meant to be served publically |
| 12:26.09 | tbm | I've heard good things about pdns but I've no idea how small it is |
| 12:26.20 | tbm | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.35 | pepijn | yes, looking at that one now, i am running ldap, so that might make a nice combo |
| 12:26.38 | tbm | not sure if that includes size, but apparently there are different backends (I suppose one might be light-wight) |
| 12:28.04 | pepijn | maradns looks like another alternative |
| 12:28.17 | pepijn | problem: i'd like to have dhcp-ddns support |
| 12:28.18 | pepijn | ;) |
| 12:29.41 | eFfeM | pepijn: i know the file-native was mentioned; the suggested fix of removing zlib did not work for me, as I needed to move to this new system I started from the very scratch and it worked, wanted to mention that |
| 12:30.16 | pepijn | k, i started from scratch as well, so no idea wether the zlib fix will work ;) |
| 12:33.42 | eFfeM | pepijn: as I had some issues upgrading yesterday, I've installed dapper rel 0.5 or whatever from scratch |
| 12:34.15 | tbm | pepijn: did you install via the serial console, or when did you see those TERM problems? |
| 12:34.20 | eFfeM | actually smp seems to be detected automagically by now: |
| 12:34.21 | eFfeM | frans@LinuxPC:/etc/X11$ cat /proc/version |
| 12:34.21 | eFfeM | Linux version 2.6.15-18-686 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060304 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.2-10ubuntu1)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 9 15:29:22 UTC 2006 |
| 12:35.13 | pepijn | eFfeM: yes, i figured that, given the removal of the seperate SMP linux-image |
| 12:35.27 | NAiL | Linux version 2.6.15-18-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060304 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.2-10ubuntu1)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Mar 9 14:41:49 UTC 2006 |
| 12:35.27 | pepijn | tbm: no serial console available, so it was ssh |
| 12:35.46 | tbm | pepijn: odd. Because I know serial console is garbled, but SH should be fine |
| 12:35.49 | tbm | SSH |
| 12:35.58 | pepijn | ssh in iTerm from MacOSX, but also ssh from console on Ubuntu/breezy |
| 12:36.13 | pepijn | basically same issues |
| 12:36.47 | pepijn | ssh from iTerm on MacOSX works ok when accessing Debian |
| 12:37.00 | pepijn | just not within the d-i environment |
| 12:38.06 | eFfeM | anyone know the command to merge my mt key in the database by heart ? |
| 12:38.17 | NAiL | it isn't done that way any longer |
| 12:38.46 | NAiL | place the key in ~/.monotone/keys/somekey |
| 12:38.55 | eFfeM | ok undersood |
| 12:39.04 | eFfeM | s/ood/tood. |
| 12:40.08 | eFfeM | done, now let it hum along |
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| 12:55.50 | pepijn | tbm: fwiw, iTerm/MacOSX has TERM=xterm, while the Ubuntu console has TERM=linux |
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| 13:05.33 | tbm | pepijn: can you boot into d-i again (no need to do a full install, jut boot into it) and take a screenshot? |
| 13:08.58 | pepijn | yep |
| 13:25.22 | philpem | hmm, i've been having some issues with the console on debian too. |
| 13:26.12 | philpem | logging in through ssh, when i quit aptitude or nano, the cursor ends up half way up the screen, but the screen isn't cleared. |
| 13:26.34 | philpem | so its a little hard to read the install log while apt is installing stuff |
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| 13:36.54 | pepijn | loaded ramdisk |
| 13:36.57 | pepijn | loaded kernel |
| 13:37.16 | pepijn | executing... |
| 13:39.19 | pepijn | guess it takes so long because of key generation ? |
| 13:39.36 | pepijn | that beep would be nice ;) |
| 13:40.44 | NAiL | yeah, key generation takes a while |
| 13:54.07 | pepijn | does bugs.debian.org accept attachments ? |
| 13:54.25 | pepijn | tbm: where do you want the screendump ? |
| 13:54.44 | tbm | pepijn: how big is the file? |
| 13:57.03 | pepijn | 72Kb (png) |
| 13:57.34 | pepijn | imho it would be best to have it stored along with the report |
| 13:57.56 | pepijn | running d-i a bit further to find out about the partitioning |
| 13:58.11 | tbm | pepijn: yeah, please send it to 356480@bugs.debian.org |
| 13:59.59 | pepijn | you want to be cc-ed directly ? |
| 14:11.30 | pepijn | When choosing 'Erase entire disk: SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 257.9 MB USB 2.0 Mobile Disk' under Guided partitioning, I am presented a dialog with the following information: |
| 14:11.30 | pepijn | Failed to partition the selected disk |
| 14:11.30 | pepijn | This probably happened because the selected disk or free space is too small to be automatically partitioned. |
| 14:11.46 | pepijn | any logs to look at and include in the report ? |
| 14:12.38 | NAiL | uh.. you're trying to install debian on a 256mb usbstick? |
| 14:12.43 | pepijn | hehe |
| 14:13.08 | pepijn | tbm wanted me to run d-i, but I am not gonna overwrite my 250Gb USB disk ;) |
| 14:13.26 | pepijn | just test running this |
| 14:13.34 | NAiL | well, unless I'm mistaken, it won't work. |
| 14:13.44 | NAiL | It's simply, as it says, "too small" |
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| 14:13.56 | pepijn | I am happy with the manual debootstrap I performed |
| 14:14.26 | pepijn | yes, i would think so, and i did include that info in the report |
| 14:19.45 | pepijn | k, reports sent |
| 14:19.52 | pepijn | gonna boot back |
| 14:20.47 | tbm | ah, okay. that error makes sense I guess |
| 14:22.36 | pepijn | maybe it should be more extensive, as in what the minimum then actually is |
| 14:31.21 | pepijn | tbm: then you should have the screendump |
| 14:31.27 | pepijn | any good? ;) |
| 14:32.34 | tbm | pepijn: interesting. thanks a lot |
| 14:36.01 | pepijn | np |
| 15:05.16 | pepijn | tbm: what environment are you ssh-ing from ? |
| 15:05.34 | tbm | pepijn: standard Debian |
| 15:05.54 | tbm | 4405:tbm@deprecation: ~] echo $TERM |
| 15:05.54 | tbm | xterm |
| 15:06.49 | pepijn | which ssh client? |
| 15:06.50 | kami22 | hi can anyone tell me how i can change the language on the system an change it to something else and utf-8 to iso... ?? |
| 15:14.19 | eFfeM | kami22: don't know much about this, could be that iconv will help |
| 15:14.45 | eFfeM | rebuilding from a fresh archive, but dropbear dependency cannot be resolved: |
| 15:14.58 | eFfeM | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency dropbear |
| 15:14.58 | eFfeM | NOTE: no buildable providers for slugos-image |
| 15:14.58 | eFfeM | ERROR: dependency slugos-image (for openslug-image) not satisfied |
| 15:15.07 | eFfeM | but there is a packages/dropbear ?? |
| 15:15.16 | eFfeM | anyone an idea? |
| 15:15.27 | pepijn | yeah me |
| 15:15.35 | pepijn | read the logs |
| 15:15.42 | eFfeM | ok |
| 15:15.53 | pepijn | my guess is that it is the 'required' inb the dropbear .bb files |
| 15:15.57 | pepijn | change it into include |
| 15:16.47 | eFfeM | i discussed this last friday or so as well in #openslug |
| 15:17.14 | eFfeM | at that point I did get a different message, so I did not think this was the same problem |
| 15:17.33 | eFfeM | according to koen bitbake is broken as it should deal with require |
| 15:18.09 | pepijn | hehe, should... but for me it doesn't |
| 15:18.24 | eFfeM | yup, actually I see the same errors again |
| 15:20.28 | eFfeM | it does contine with this change, also asked the Q in #oe |
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| 16:56.22 | eFfeM-log | discovered an interesting challenge, did an ipkg upgrade and it tried to upgrade dropbear, causing me to loose the connection which in turn stopped ipkg, so no way out except reboot. retrying now by running ipkg upgrade in a background process (nohupped) |
| 16:56.57 | eFfeM-log | is there a better way around this? |
| 16:57.49 | mwester-away | If you were on unslung, I'd tell you to just telnet in... but I bet you don't have telnetd on your system? |
| 16:58.10 | eFfeM-log | nope, actually I could have enabled it before but I didn't |
| 16:58.33 | eFfeM-log | the background solution seems to work though, but might need a reboot later on |
| 16:58.51 | eFfeM-log | i'm getting a connection refused now but still a lot of activity |
| 17:00.41 | NAiL | upgrading dropbear shouldn't actually drop the connection though... |
| 17:01.09 | NAiL | It should technically just kill the listening process |
| 17:01.14 | NAiL | not the login processes |
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| 17:06.55 | eFfeM-log | NAiL: it did not work for he, it closed the connection, might be that I didn't wait long enough to upgrade things |
| 17:07.10 | eFfeM-log | i'll do another reboot to see what happens |
| 17:07.57 | pepijn | NAiL: i am sure that that is the case for OpenSSH |
| 17:08.15 | NAiL | yeah, openssh is safe to upgrade |
| 17:08.37 | NAiL | (but openssh also takes like 6-7% ram for each of my login processes) |
| 17:08.43 | pepijn | i routinely upgrade ssh related things and *first* setup a secondary connection before closing the first (non-upgraded) one |
| 17:09.06 | NAiL | yes |
| 17:09.15 | NAiL | that way you have some way of recovering |
| 17:09.20 | pepijn | must be a killall dropbear vs. kill $(cat /var/run/dropbear.pid) thing |
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| 17:09.57 | pepijn | btw. i have telnetd with root on pts/0 starting right after networking so i have a backdoor |
| 17:10.09 | NAiL | hehe |
| 17:10.13 | pepijn | maybe should put a hosts.deny in there too |
| 17:10.17 | NAiL | I have serial console (albeit with some work) |
| 17:10.21 | pepijn | hehe |
| 17:10.23 | eFfeM-log | could do that as well |
| 17:10.28 | pepijn | that would be the best, yes |
| 17:10.35 | NAiL | that is a *good* solution :) |
| 17:11.06 | eFfeM | my serial for some reason does not take input maybe something wrong with the cable |
| 17:11.17 | eFfeM | need to check that with someone else |
| 17:11.19 | NAiL | yeah |
| 17:11.20 | eFfeM | or faulty soldering |
| 17:11.37 | NAiL | I thought I had blown the input on my slug, until I tried a diff cable |
| 17:11.44 | eFfeM | anyway the backdoor I thought of is using the usb<->ethernet cable I have |
| 17:12.24 | eFfeM | but when I wanted to set that up, things were not working when the ixp drivers failed (probably it then becomes eth0 iso eth1 |
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| 17:19.31 | pepijn | problem with dropbear is that it does not support kerberos login (which i use) |
| 17:21.46 | pepijn | although i do use dropbear on my dreambox and wrt54gl's |
| 17:53.40 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/rsync.mk: rsync upstream upgrade to 2.6.7 |
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| 20:36.59 | philpem | woohoo - 2d3h19m uptime - better than my last server :) |
| 20:37.07 | NAiL | hehe |
| 20:37.14 | NAiL | so a newer kernel fixed your problems? |
| 20:37.17 | philpem | yep |
| 20:37.19 | NAiL | dwery: ping? |
| 20:37.35 | dwery | NAiL: host busy, answer might be delayed. |
| 20:37.36 | dwery | :-D |
| 20:37.48 | philpem | half the problem with the last server was the noise level... the nslu is nice and quiet, even with a 7200RPM hard drive hooked up to it. |
| 20:37.58 | NAiL | dwery: Have you tried compiling -rc6? Stuff doesn't apply cleanly, so I haven't gotten around to that yet. |
| 20:38.06 | dwery | not yet |
| 20:38.22 | NAiL | philpem: definitely. I've got a 4200rpm laptop drive connected though. It's *very* silent :-D |
| 20:38.40 | philpem | could do with getting an 80gig drive for it at some point. 15 isn't really big enough for a server. |
| 20:39.03 | philpem | half the reason i bought a 3.5" casing was because the drives are so much cheaper :) |
| 20:39.19 | NAiL | the drive I'm using is "leftover" from my old laptop |
| 20:39.40 | NAiL | It's not exactly large (6GB IIRC), but that's plenty to run the debian stuff I need ;) |
| 20:39.53 | NAiL | I've got another slug that has a 120GB drive that I use for fileserving |
| 20:40.25 | philpem | i've just installed php, mysql, cherokee (compiled on the slug) and torrentflux. |
| 20:40.29 | NAiL | nice |
| 20:40.53 | philpem | so now i can leave the thing downloading.. um.. "the latest version of fedora core".. while i'm asleep. which is nice. |
| 20:41.05 | NAiL | hahaha |
| 20:41.07 | NAiL | yeah |
| 20:41.23 | NAiL | Naruto? ;) |
| 20:41.38 | philpem | Naruto, Bleach and whatever else I see on BoxTorrents that looks interesting :) |
| 20:41.48 | philpem | my isp likes to whine about people running their connections flat out from 6pm-midnight. fine, how's midnight to 6pm then? :D |
| 20:42.40 | philpem | actually, i need to reinstall those hotplug scripts and test them. thing is, i've had this connection up for almost as long as the server and i don't feel like disconnecting. |
| 20:43.02 | NAiL | Got more or less complete Bleach & Naruto here |
| 20:43.10 | philpem | Same here |
| 20:43.59 | NAiL | as well as Yu Yu Hakusho and OnePiece.. I'm at a friend's place, and he's kinda anime-fan |
| 20:44.14 | philpem | Complete Bleach from 1 through 71, mix of LunarAnime and Dattebayo subs, Naruto 1 through 175 mix of ANBU, ANBU|AonE, AonE and Dattebayo subs. |
| 20:45.15 | philpem | also got Blue Gender, YuYuHakusho s1/s2, InuYasha complete series, InuYasha manga scanslations, Mononoke Hime, and some other stuff too.. |
| 20:45.42 | philpem | most of the stuff i've got is on my anidb userpage... i keep forgetting to update it though |
| 20:46.22 | philpem | interestingly enough, no pirate software on any of my machines. |
| 20:46.46 | NAiL | hmm |
| 20:47.06 | NAiL | does winzip count as pirate software after 30 days? :-P |
| 20:47.30 | philpem | technically... |
| 20:47.40 | philpem | i've been using powerarchiver - www.powerarchiver.com |
| 20:47.40 | NAiL | hrrm |
| 20:48.06 | philpem | gave up on winzip a long time ago. PA is a little quirky at times, but the price is right :) |
| 20:48.16 | NAiL | heh |
| 20:48.26 | philpem | not free, but very cheap |
| 20:48.32 | NAiL | yeah |
| 20:49.37 | philpem | also got Acronis TrueImage for a pretty good price - it was on a magazine CD and the serial number i got was valid for an upgrade to the latest version. after seeing the price (and lameness) of ghost, i bought it. |
| 20:49.45 | philpem | s/bought it/bought trueimage/ |
| 20:50.10 | NAiL | TrueImage? It's like symantec ghost? |
| 20:50.33 | philpem | worth every penny, especially when you know you've got an hour to get every damn thing off your laptop hard drive before it goes titsup.com. |
| 20:50.51 | NAiL | yeah |
| 20:51.01 | NAiL | I tried getting everything off a 3.5" drive yesterday |
| 20:51.06 | philpem | "SMART FAILURE ALERT: Drive PRI:MASTER reports IMMINENT FAILURE. F1 to continue." |
| 20:51.18 | NAiL | unfortunately, it went belly-up in the process |
| 20:51.41 | philpem | i copy my documents off onto the lan with knoppix, then image it if the drive still works. |
| 20:52.24 | philpem | got a lovely error message on a laptop the other day. "Graphics card failure. F1 to continue." -- the clincher was that this error message was displayed on the lcd... |
| 20:52.36 | philpem | rebooted and it was fine. weird little machine... |
| 20:52.49 | NAiL | heh |
| 20:53.39 | philpem | trueimage is neat, it mounts a backup image as a virtual drive. |
| 20:53.57 | mwester | But doesn't that require drivers? |
| 20:54.01 | philpem | which means one of the many windows ext2 readers will work fine to read the contents of an image |
| 20:54.22 | philpem | mwester: yes, they get installed when you install TW |
| 20:54.26 | philpem | s/TW/TI/ |
| 20:54.39 | NAiL | doesn't help much when you use XFS/JFS/etc though |
| 20:54.52 | mwester | That's unfortunate. I need to be able to bacup and recover hard drives on systems that cannot boot into any OS |
| 20:55.15 | philpem | TI has two operation modes though - the normal windows-hosted mode and the "rescue cd" mode. |
| 20:55.42 | mwester | I currently boot using PXE (the boot server is a slug, of course) and the boot image contains ghost on a ramdisk floppy image. |
| 20:55.51 | philpem | boot off the rescue cd and you get a full network-enabled version of trueimage that can read and write images on samba shares. |
| 20:55.57 | philpem | don't think you can netboot it though |
| 20:56.51 | mwester | Still, it might be worth a look - that's not a free package, is it? |
| 20:56.51 | philpem | can't say i tried though - the first thing i disabled on the A8V was the LAN bootrom (what's the point when the machine has 100GB worth of hard drives, plenty of space for an OS) and then the SATA and RAID controllers. |
| 20:57.08 | philpem | mwester: trueimage? unfortunately not. there's a demo version available though iirc. |
| 20:58.15 | mwester | I'll check it out... might be a good addition for some of the machines that have CDROM drives if it does a better job with Linux and BSD fs. - thanks. |
| 20:59.06 | philpem | mwester: www.acronis.com |
| 20:59.35 | philpem | best thing is it doesn't throw out those "unknown fatal error" messages ghost is so fond of :) |
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