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| 00:14.30 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (4 files in 2 dirs): upstream upgrade to 8.0.7, added pg_dumpall in prerm |
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| 00:27.20 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/libgc.mk: boehm libgc upstream upgrade to 6.7 |
| 01:00.11 | CIA-8 | 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/leds-class.patch: Upgraded to latest version. |
| 01:15.35 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/w3m.mk Makefile): stripped /opt/libexec/w3m/cgi-bin/ binaries, x-compilable now, bumped up IPK_VERSION |
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| 01:29.27 | Daluv | uhm |
| 01:29.42 | Daluv | funny that usb hub werk with openslug... |
| 01:30.04 | Daluv | possibilty of 5 disks... |
| 01:30.16 | rwhitby | why funny? openslug is just plain linux. |
| 01:30.28 | Daluv | yeah that's true. |
| 01:31.08 | Daluv | now i need to switch to xfs |
| 01:31.37 | Daluv | I work with xfs on a daily but I wasnt able to think about that for my backup system.. how lame.. |
| 01:31.46 | Daluv | daily basis that is. |
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| 02:39.22 | CIA-8 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/memcached.mk: memcached: don't allow looking in /lib for libevent |
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| 07:58.11 | Neuer_User | Hi, is anybody here? |
| 08:01.45 | Neuer_User | Nobody here, it seems? |
| 08:02.04 | rwhitby | plenty of people here - they're just waiting for you to ask a question ... |
| 08:02.41 | Neuer_User | Oh hi, I did not see any traffic, that's why Im asking. I have a problem with making the debianslug-image. |
| 08:03.17 | Neuer_User | I get the following error, when making from the master-makefile: "ERROR: Nothing provides dependency qemu-native" |
| 08:03.34 | rwhitby | are you building debianslug-image or debianslug-packages? |
| 08:03.36 | Neuer_User | That's just the first error line. Any idea what's the problem? |
| 08:03.43 | Neuer_User | building the image |
| 08:03.52 | rwhitby | what make command did you type? |
| 08:04.00 | rwhitby | (cause the image does not depend on qemu-native) |
| 08:04.06 | Neuer_User | make setup && make debianslug-image |
| 08:04.34 | Neuer_User | actually followed the wiki step by step |
| 08:04.56 | Neuer_User | btw. a month ago it worked perfectly |
| 08:05.19 | Neuer_User | first I tried to update my old build: |
| 08:05.30 | Neuer_User | with make update && make debianslug-image |
| 08:05.47 | Neuer_User | but got the same error, then started from scratch, but the same error |
| 08:05.50 | rwhitby | hang on and I'll try the same command. |
| 08:05.56 | Neuer_User | o.K. |
| 08:09.09 | Neuer_User | here's the complete error: |
| 08:09.17 | Neuer_User | [...] |
| 08:09.21 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1-r1: task do_package: completed |
| 08:09.25 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1-r1: task do_build: started |
| 08:09.29 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 08:09.33 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1: completed |
| 08:09.37 | Neuer_User | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency qemu-native |
| 08:09.41 | Neuer_User | ERROR: dependency qemu-native (for glibc) not satisfied |
| 08:09.45 | Neuer_User | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency qemu-native |
| 08:09.49 | Neuer_User | ERROR: dependency qemu-native (for glibc-intermediate) not satisfied |
| 08:09.53 | Neuer_User | NOTE: no buildable providers for virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc |
| 08:09.57 | Neuer_User | ERROR: dependency virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc (for gcc-cross) not |
| 08:10.01 | Neuer_User | satisfied |
| 08:10.05 | Neuer_User | NOTE: no buildable providers for virtual/arm-linux-gcc |
| 08:10.09 | Neuer_User | ERROR: dependency virtual/arm-linux-gcc (for slugos-image) not satisfied |
| 08:10.10 | Neuer_User | NOTE: no buildable providers for slugos-image |
| 08:10.10 | Neuer_User | ERROR: dependency slugos-image (for debianslug-image) not satisfied |
| 08:10.10 | Neuer_User | NOTE: no buildable providers for debianslug-image |
| 08:10.10 | Neuer_User | make[1]: *** [image] Fehler 1 |
| 08:10.34 | rwhitby | What type of host are you building this on ? |
| 08:10.51 | Neuer_User | debian sid, i386 |
| 08:11.24 | Neuer_User | Kanotix, to be exact, the same machine that worked a month ago without problems |
| 08:19.48 | rwhitby | my build is compile glibc which must have been updated since I built last |
| 08:19.54 | rwhitby | s/compile/compiling/ |
| 08:21.27 | Neuer_User | well, my build stopped after compiling linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1 (well I started from scratch) |
| 08:22.21 | Neuer_User | s/well/when/ |
| 08:22.50 | rwhitby | Do you have anything in debianslug/conf/local.conf? |
| 08:22.52 | Neuer_User | grr, should have replaced the second well ;-) |
| 08:22.58 | rwhitby | (or have you edited any conf files?) |
| 08:23.23 | Neuer_User | haven't edited anything, looking into the folder now... |
| 08:24.01 | Neuer_User | no local.conf (only a local.conf.sample) |
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| 08:55.45 | CIA-8 | 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/ (3 files): Upgraded to patch-2.6.16-rc5-ide2 and 2.6.16-rc5-git11 |
| 08:59.22 | rwhitby | Neuer_User: my build is still going - building the kernel now |
| 09:00.44 | Neuer_User | No problem, I'll wait |
| 09:01.40 | rwhitby | slugos-image just started, so it looks like I can't reproduce your problem here. |
| 09:02.29 | Neuer_User | Hmm, that'll make it difficult to find the problem... |
| 09:02.50 | Neuer_User | What kind of host are you using? |
| 09:03.28 | CIA-8 | 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/ (82-nas100d-gpio.patch series): nas100d: power led fix |
| 09:05.30 | Neuer_User | maybe I should try starting from scratch again. Perhaps something has changed since yesterday. |
| 09:05.39 | rwhitby | Debian Sid on i386 under vmware |
| 09:06.22 | Neuer_User | sounds similar except the vmware part, which shouldn't make a big difference |
| 09:06.34 | rwhitby | nope |
| 09:07.51 | Neuer_User | o.k. Ißm starting again from scratch: mv slug slug-old && mkdir slug && cd slug && wget --cache=off http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile |
| 09:08.12 | Neuer_User | doing make setup now |
| 09:08.45 | Neuer_User | rwhitby: Are you staying here a bit? |
| 09:10.40 | rwhitby | Neuer_User: I'll be around on and off for the next two hours at least |
| 09:11.17 | Neuer_User | o.k., then I'll report on what I'm doing and what the results are. |
| 09:11.37 | rwhitby | If I'm not around, I'll see it in the logs |
| 09:14.42 | CIA-8 | 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/ (82-nslu2-fix-depends.patch series): NSLU2: fix prompt dependencies |
| 09:15.36 | Neuer_User | o.k., make setup has finished, folder slug has 226 MB now |
| 09:16.43 | Neuer_User | copying the ixp-drivers from old build: cp ../slug-old/downloads/IPL_ixp400* downloads/ |
| 09:16.51 | Neuer_User | folder slug has now 229 MB |
| 09:17.43 | Neuer_User | starting make (make debianslug-image | tee debianslug-log) |
| 09:19.59 | CIA-8 | 03oleon * 10unslung/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gettext: upgrade to 0.14.5 - ipk control cleanup, disable test generation |
| 09:33.16 | Neuer_User | ...downloading gcc at the moment ... |
| 09:33.50 | CIA-8 | 03azummo * 10kernel/2.6.16/92-nslu2-maclist.patch: refreshed. |
| 09:40.57 | Neuer_User | ... downloading linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1 now ... |
| 09:50.53 | Neuer_User | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.01 | Neuer_User | I wouldn't bet, but I think the problem occured earlier yesterday (namely, just behind the linux-headers...) |
| 10:02.53 | Neuer_User | hmmm, now doing the locales... |
| 10:18.53 | Neuer_User | downloading the kernel now |
| 10:19.57 | Neuer_User | rwhitby: It really seems to work today. The folder size is now 1.9 GB. Yesterday it stopped at 1 GB. Maybe it was just a temporary glitch. |
| 10:33.06 | rwhitby | ok, good. |
| 10:35.06 | Neuer_User | rwithby: Hmm, o.k. the original problem is solved, however I got a new one: |
| 10:35.12 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9: task do_compile: started |
| 10:35.16 | Neuer_User | ERROR: function do_compile failed |
| 10:35.20 | Neuer_User | ERROR: see log in /home/michael/slug/debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/temp/log.do_compile.3302 |
| 10:35.24 | Neuer_User | NOTE: Task failed: /home/michael/slug/debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/temp/log.do_compile.3302 |
| 10:35.28 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9: task do_compile: failed |
| 10:35.29 | Neuer_User | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 10:35.29 | Neuer_User | NOTE: package ixp4xx-csr-2.1: failed |
| 10:35.29 | Neuer_User | ERROR: Build of debianslug-image failed |
| 10:35.29 | Neuer_User | make[1]: *** [image] Fehler 1 |
| 10:36.13 | Neuer_User | I used the ixp code I downloaded from intels site at the beginning of this year. Has the code changed? |
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| 10:43.30 | Neuer_User | At least the nslu2 wiki still mentiones Library-2.1, which I have... |
| 10:45.40 | Neuer_User | o.k. looking into the log slug/debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/temp/log.do_compile.3302, I see the following errors: |
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| 10:46.37 | Neuer_User | at the end of the log: |
| 10:46.38 | Neuer_User | make[4]: Entering directory `/home/michael/slug/debianslug/tmp/staging/arm-linux/kernel' |
| 10:46.42 | Neuer_User | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.46 | Neuer_User | inuxle/ixp400.o |
| 10:46.47 | Neuer_User | /home/michael/slug/debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/ixp400_xscale_sw/lib/linuxle/ixp |
| 10:46.47 | Neuer_User | 400.c:1:2: #error this file must never be compiled |
| 10:46.47 | Neuer_User | make[5]: *** [/home/michael/slug/debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/ixp400_xscale_sw/l |
| 10:46.47 | Neuer_User | ib/linuxle/ixp400.o] Error 1 |
| 10:47.55 | Neuer_User | at the beginning there are also some interesting lines although maybe not errors: |
| 10:47.57 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/qmgr-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.01 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/npeMh-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.05 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/npeDl-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.09 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/ethAcc-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.13 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/ethDB-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.17 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/ethMii-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.17 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/featureCtrl-component-dependencies.d: No such file or director |
| 10:48.17 | Neuer_User | y |
| 10:48.18 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/osServices-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:48.18 | Neuer_User | Makefile:1227: lib/linuxle/oslinux-component-dependencies.d: No such file or directory |
| 10:54.35 | Neuer_User | Hmmm, the file slug/debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/ixp400_xscale_sw/lib/linuxle/ixp400.c only has one line saying "#error this file must never be compiled" |
| 10:59.23 | Neuer_User | as the ixp400 code is provided as a binary file (ixp400.o is present in ./debianslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-csr-2.1-r9/ixp400_xscale_sw/lib/linuxle/ ) |
| 10:59.41 | Neuer_User | however, there is no ixp400.ko |
| 11:01.08 | Neuer_User | So, when I restart the make, this time I get another error message, saying "install: cannot stat `lib/linuxle/ixp400.ko': No such file or directory" |
| 11:24.10 | Neuer_User | :-( |
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| 11:36.43 | Neuer_User | so, just as a test, I reused my old build that gave me the qemu-errors yesterday ( mv slug slug-new && mv slug-old slug ) |
| 11:37.06 | Neuer_User | making the debianslug-image gave the same error as yesterday |
| 11:37.21 | Neuer_User | make update downloaded 6 revisions |
| 11:37.45 | Neuer_User | make debianslug-image then gave the same ixp error as with the from-scratch-try |
| 11:38.21 | Neuer_User | So it seems that yesterday there was an error in the sources that stopped with the qemu-native dependency |
| 11:38.42 | Neuer_User | today, on the other hand, there seems to be an error with the ixp modules |
| 11:38.56 | Neuer_User | maybe I should wait and try again tomorrow... |
| 12:04.22 | Neuer_User | Last thing: I redownloaded the IXP code from intel and verified it to be identical with the one I downloaded at the beginning of the year... |
| 12:04.43 | Neuer_User | guess, I'll just try again tomorrow or next week... :-( |
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| 14:22.00 | kolla | I wonder... did anyone try hooking a plextor convertX to a slug? :) |
| 14:22.12 | kolla | it's a hardware mpeg/divx encoder |
| 14:24.48 | NAiL | does it have a linux driver? :) |
| 14:25.12 | Neuer_User | as far as I know there is a linux driver available |
| 14:27.56 | kolla | NAiL: yes |
| 14:28.08 | kolla | NAiL: http://hardware.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/07/01/0353218&tid=125&tid=24 |
| 14:28.56 | kolla | heh, it has integrated tuner as well |
| 14:29.00 | kolla | cute |
| 14:30.39 | NAiL | well, noone has done it so far, afaik |
| 14:30.49 | NAiL | feel free to try ;) |
| 14:30.54 | NAiL | how much does it cost? |
| 14:31.56 | kolla | about $200 |
| 14:32.00 | kolla | havnet found any norwegian dealers yet |
| 14:32.20 | kolla | haven't |
| 14:35.40 | kolla | there... ~ NOK600 for the simpler version without tuner and ~1250 for the one with tuner |
| 14:36.12 | kolla | http://prisguide.hardware.no/product.php?product_id=28687 and http://prisguide.hardware.no/product.php?product_id=24005 |
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| 14:46.03 | NAiL | might be worth taking a look at ;) |
| 14:46.55 | kolla | mm |
| 14:46.57 | kolla | NAiL: btw.. http://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/article1986109.ece |
| 14:47.08 | kolla | quite funny |
| 14:47.44 | kolla | difficult this "for" and "mot" stuff :) |
| 14:54.48 | caplink811_log | version raises up to since my last build |
| 14:55.10 | caplink811_log | oops, wrong window |
| 14:55.47 | Neuer_User | I just did a make update again -> got 3 new revs -> now compile error with "file-native-4.16-r0: task do_compile: failed" |
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| 16:34.33 | pepijn | can someone explain the difference between development @ openembedded.org vs. svn.berlios.de ? |
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| 16:34.50 | pepijn | what happens where? what is the relationship between the two? |
| 17:22.04 | NAiL | The work on svn.berlios.de is fixes to the releases and their feeds |
| 17:22.15 | NAiL | the work on OE is the current development |
| 17:26.55 | pepijn | and the trunk on svn ? |
| 17:30.20 | NAiL | hmm, dunno |
| 17:30.34 | pepijn | hehe, dead probably ;) |
| 17:30.57 | NAiL | It's not anything that I touch |
| 17:31.04 | pepijn | but you pull (acceptable?) changes from OE and merge them into the SVN repository ? |
| 17:31.14 | NAiL | yes |
| 17:31.26 | NAiL | That's more or less done only by me |
| 17:31.45 | pepijn | yes, i figured so much from the logs and discussions in here |
| 17:32.17 | pepijn | and that also means that OE is a fast moving target, while svn is a controlled environment, right? |
| 17:32.24 | NAiL | yes |
| 17:32.37 | NAiL | after a release, there will be no changes that affects the root fs |
| 17:32.46 | NAiL | (eg. kernel fixes) |
| 17:33.18 | NAiL | So there's just the odd fix for problems that are reported on slugbug mainly |
| 17:33.23 | NAiL | or are discussed here |
| 17:33.44 | pepijn | what about the changes in the Makefile |
| 17:34.04 | pepijn | svn uses the (more appropriate) lag bag etc targets |
| 17:34.16 | pepijn | while OE seems to use the (older?) targets |
| 17:34.29 | NAiL | well... that depends |
| 17:34.51 | NAiL | slugos-* is the base for the various openslug/ucslugc/debianslug distros |
| 17:36.59 | pepijn | still, this double development is sort of confusing |
| 17:37.07 | pepijn | OE is *everything* |
| 17:37.12 | pepijn | svn is kernel+rootfs |
| 17:37.21 | pepijn | for 'stable' releases |
| 17:37.28 | NAiL | no, svn is everything |
| 17:37.32 | NAiL | it's a snapshot of OE |
| 17:37.49 | pepijn | in my case (Debian LE) the packages come from somehwere else (Debian) |
| 17:38.02 | pepijn | but for the others, the OE is used for ipkg's ? |
| 17:38.28 | NAiL | for stable releases, the ipkgs are built from svn, for unstable the ipkgs are built from OE |
| 17:38.55 | pepijn | except for the Debian variants |
| 17:39.11 | NAiL | yes |
| 17:39.24 | pepijn | i am really just interested in the kernel and modules belonging to it |
| 17:39.37 | NAiL | debian-le will eventually become a debian-installer image with a small rootfs in flash, just to install debian to the hdd |
| 17:39.39 | pepijn | and the part that boots (pivots) into the USB disk |
| 17:40.20 | NAiL | yeah, that's the small rootfs |
| 17:40.20 | pepijn | nice thing about the flash rootfs is that it is quite useful for troubleshooting/recovery |
| 17:40.25 | NAiL | yeah |
| 17:41.06 | pepijn | but, ref. ipkgs, those you also pull out of OE and merge into svn ? |
| 17:41.33 | NAiL | yes |
| 17:41.45 | pepijn | that is quite a job, then |
| 17:42.04 | pepijn | if you were just maintaining the rootfs+kernel, i could understand |
| 17:42.16 | pepijn | but every package as well makes it a huge project |
| 17:42.46 | NAiL | well, I watch the commit mailinglist, so I see if there are relevant fixes that I would like to backport |
| 17:43.08 | pepijn | commit mailinglist? |
| 17:43.14 | NAiL | yes, oe-commit |
| 17:43.27 | pepijn | but that is *everything* oe related ? |
| 17:43.32 | NAiL | yup |
| 17:43.33 | pepijn | i mean, all projects in OE? |
| 17:43.59 | NAiL | yes |
| 17:44.05 | NAiL | so there's a lot of stuff I just ignore |
| 17:44.14 | pepijn | yes, i hope you do ;) |
| 17:44.36 | NAiL | eg. koen's recent avalance of ep93xx-related stuf |
| 17:45.57 | pepijn | still, quite a challenge |
| 17:46.59 | pepijn | ref. debian-installer: what is the status? who are the contacts? |
| 17:47.29 | NAiL | as far as I know, rwhitby, dwery-away and tbm are the ones working on it |
| 17:47.36 | NAiL | I haven't watched that very closely |
| 17:48.20 | NAiL | The nslu2 kernel patches need to go mainstream first afaik |
| 17:48.44 | pepijn | yes, i read about that |
| 17:48.50 | NAiL | mwester: hmm... might not be a too bad idea |
| 17:49.03 | pepijn | my point exactly ;) |
| 17:49.06 | NAiL | I'm no unslung dev though |
| 17:49.46 | pepijn | or, does Unslung have yet another point of maintenance? |
| 17:50.18 | NAiL | Unslung uses OE packages afaik. So it's currently being built out of HEAD |
| 17:50.36 | pepijn | i do understand the reasons (or 'how it got to be') behind all those different repositories |
| 17:50.46 | pepijn | but it does not make for easy development paths |
| 17:50.57 | NAiL | no, but it's the best solution that I can see |
| 17:51.13 | NAiL | since maintaining a separate head in OE would be a real pain |
| 17:51.15 | tbm | pepijn: the following page shows instructions and the status: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ |
| 17:51.28 | tbm | pepijn: right now the installer is broken but there's a fix already, so it'll work again soon |
| 17:51.34 | pepijn | hehe, been there, read that |
| 17:52.06 | tbm | right. so that's the status. it basically works but lacks in: some kernel features (LEDS, RTC), automatically writing the kernel to flas |
| 17:52.07 | pepijn | yay! the slug-firmware.net now actually shows the debian-installer thingy |
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| 17:52.10 | tbm | flash |
| 17:52.28 | pepijn | i see the source is available there |
| 17:52.38 | pepijn | which repository is used? |
| 17:52.41 | pepijn | branch? |
| 17:52.42 | pepijn | etc |
| 17:53.02 | pepijn | and where is development being discussed? debian-installer mailinglist? |
| 17:53.25 | tbm | svn+ssh://svn.d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk |
| 17:53.25 | tbm | debian-boot@lists.debian.org |
| 17:53.36 | pepijn | thnx |
| 17:54.57 | tbm | but note that it's broken right now. should work tomorrow or the day after |
| 17:55.17 | pepijn | yes, i noted |
| 17:55.51 | pepijn | (and, on a sidenote, yet another repository... ) |
| 17:56.39 | pepijn | well, i guess d-i and rootfs for NSLU2 can be seen as seperate, but related projects |
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| 18:05.47 | pepijn | tbm: what about the 'rescue' function of the flash rootfs? |
| 18:06.25 | tbm | pepijn: not yet |
| 18:07.45 | pepijn | will that be the same rootfs, or will the rootfs be replaced after the installation? |
| 18:08.03 | tbm | not sure yet |
| 18:10.03 | pepijn | that was a RTFM ;) |
| 18:15.02 | NAiL | ah, finally |
| 18:15.05 | pepijn | any sign of an opensource ethernet replacement? |
| 18:15.09 | NAiL | nope |
| 18:15.26 | pepijn | so that will be the major issue for the debian versions, then |
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| 18:18.26 | tbm | pepijn: a RTFM? no, I'm just not sure myself yet what the best way is to implement it. |
| 18:18.55 | pepijn | my q. about the rescue feature, it says so on the web page |
| 18:19.07 | tbm | yeah, true |
| 18:20.05 | pepijn | i see basically two options: 1) make a d-i that has an alternative path (drop to shell is there already, isn't it) |
| 18:20.24 | pepijn | or 2) replace the rootfs with the rootfs from NAiL |
| 18:20.45 | pepijn | both options do have the closed source ixp problem, though |
| 18:21.45 | NAiL | pepijn: Don't attribute the rootfs to me, there's a lot of people behind that ;) |
| 18:22.21 | pepijn | no, no... just a figure of speech |
| 18:22.26 | pepijn | ;) |
| 18:22.34 | pepijn | teh SVN one then? |
| 18:22.37 | pepijn | or how to call it |
| 18:22.56 | NAiL | the released slugos rootfs ;) |
| 18:23.04 | NAiL | in this case, slugos-lag |
| 18:23.16 | pepijn | officially released beta slugos-lag ? |
| 18:23.29 | pepijn | haha |
| 18:23.34 | NAiL | hehe |
| 18:24.50 | pepijn | but i do realise it is not just you responsible for it (although from what you told earlier you are performing quite a keyrole in the release process) |
| 18:25.00 | pepijn | and all those q's are: |
| 18:25.04 | pepijn | 1) because i am curious |
| 18:25.23 | pepijn | 2) because i do have capabilities (and hopefully resources) to do some sort of testing |
| 18:25.46 | pepijn | just trying to figure out what is in my (and the communities) best interest ;) |
| 18:30.55 | NAiL | I'm just waiting for 2.6.16 so I can start testing slugos-* myself ;) |
| 18:32.48 | pepijn | currently thinking that that is the most efficient thing to do... take the svn beta-3.6 branch (*after* insertion of the 2.6.16 bits) and test it as the Debian LE rescue root |
| 18:38.26 | NAiL | yeah |
| 18:38.40 | NAiL | I'm waiting for that myself. That, and the OpenSlug rootfs |
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| 18:57.10 | NAiL | hmm |
| 18:57.12 | NAiL | this is strange |
| 18:57.36 | NAiL | upslug2 appears to not communicate with redboot |
| 19:01.38 | NAiL | oh well |
| 19:01.41 | NAiL | worked with telnet |
| 19:19.46 | NAiL | *sigh* |
| 19:19.53 | NAiL | upgrading busybox sucks |
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| 19:36.25 | dwery-away | NAiL: I'm not working on d-i, sorry :) |
| 19:39.25 | NAiL | well, you're working on getting the kernel-patches pushed, aren't you? ;) |
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| 19:59.26 | dwery-away | NAiL: yep |
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| 20:43.43 | NAiL | aaaaaah |
| 20:43.51 | NAiL | openssh key generation takes *forever* |
| 20:51.15 | mwester | NAiL: would "ln /dev/random /dev/zero" help? ;) |
| 20:52.06 | NAiL | nah, it didn't run out of entropy |
| 20:52.19 | NAiL | it just spent ages generating the key |
| 20:52.33 | mwester | Ok... needs more CPU (or an FPU?) |
| 20:52.43 | NAiL | an FPU would help |
| 20:52.58 | NAiL | esp. since debian uses the kernel fp-emul |
| 20:53.16 | mwester | Do any external (USB-attached) key generators exist? |
| 20:55.21 | NAiL | I would assume that would require special drivers, but it should be possible |
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| 22:03.40 | marceln | mwester: I have a failure with a unslung 6.7 compile in file-native? |
| 22:03.54 | marceln | Friday it worked. |
| 22:14.42 | EvilDevil | hi. is there a mp3 player that can act as a shoutcast streaming client? |
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| 22:22.35 | mwester | Somebody broke OE again? Crud. I've been checking every day or so, but not necessarily deleting the entire tmp/work tree and starting over. I'll do that, and see what happens. (I should have tagged the repository last Sunday when I *did* blow everything away and rebuild successfully!) |
| 22:28.23 | marceln | They upgraded file from 4.13-r2 to 4.16-r1 and now the compiled "file" can't parse it's magic file |
| 22:29.52 | EvilDevil | i'm getting the same error marceln |
| 22:30.11 | mwester | Well, I don't know how to fix that. So I guess we just wait until somebody in charge of the file package fixes it? |
| 22:31.25 | EvilDevil | i think i read that you can define which version of a package should be used. somewhere around the openembedded/conf/distro i think (but i'm not sure) |
| 22:32.29 | EvilDevil | #PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial ?= "3.4.4" |
| 22:32.37 | EvilDevil | something like that? |
| 22:34.15 | mwester | Yeah, but is it the right solution -- to "nail down" unslung to an old version of "file" because somebody hasn't fixed the new one? I don't enough about Monotone, but ideally I'd like to go back to the revision from Sunday when it worked, and then "stretch" that revision forward to cover the README and NOTES changes I made yesterday, and the conf change to denote Unslung6.7-Beta that will... |
| 22:34.17 | mwester | ...happen shortly, then tag THAT combination as what makes the release. And let the monotone head do what it does - which is pretty much be "unstable"... |
| 22:37.26 | pepijn | i have the same problem with file when building debianslug |
| 22:37.56 | pepijn | guess for now it is either (a) wait til it is fixed, or (b) pin down the version of file to the previous one |
| 22:38.20 | EvilDevil | i understand your point of view. but i just wanted to build an openslug-image with audio player capabilities |
| 22:38.23 | mwester | Well, then maybe (as ugly as it seems to me) if its breaking all the projects, the solution is (b) until the originator of the change fixes it. |
| 22:38.35 | pepijn | yep |
| 22:39.04 | pepijn | where would one do that? |
| 22:39.34 | mwester | There's the problem - don't know. |
| 22:39.50 | EvilDevil | NOTE: preferred version 4.13-r2 of file-native not available |
| 22:40.17 | EvilDevil | edit ~/slug/openembedded/conf/distro/debianslug.conf and add |
| 22:40.43 | EvilDevil | PREFERRED_VERSION_file-native ?= "4.13-r2" |
| 22:40.59 | EvilDevil | (for debianslug) |
| 22:41.39 | pepijn | looks plausible |
| 22:41.40 | EvilDevil | well, it tries to build 4.13-r2, but there's no corresponding bb file in ~/slug/openembedded/packages/file/ |
| 22:41.58 | EvilDevil | NOTE: preferred version 4.13-r2 of file-native not available |
| 22:41.58 | EvilDevil | NOTE: package file-native-4.16: started |
| 22:46.02 | marceln | I just run "configure and make" over file and it works. So its really the build environment which breaks it. |
| 22:46.12 | EvilDevil | seems like we have to wait 'til it's fixed |
| 22:52.31 | marceln | The problem is that it can't parse the line ">>&0xf4 search/0x140 \x0\x40\x1\x0" |
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| 22:53.00 | marceln | It's the only line with a search statement. |
| 22:53.04 | philpem | OK, that kernel update didn't help at all. |
| 22:53.31 | philpem | Before the reload I got about 10-16 hours before the slug froze. Now I'm getting three or four if I'm lucky. |
| 22:54.15 | pepijn | which kernel is that, philpem? |
| 22:54.22 | pepijn | 2.6.15.1 or 2.6.16 ? |
| 22:54.24 | philpem | Openslug /etc/init.d/sysklogd stop |
| 22:54.25 | philpem | /etc/init.d/klogd stop |
| 22:54.25 | philpem | modprobe netconsole netconsole=@/,514@10.255.255.255/ |
| 22:54.28 | philpem | 2.6.15.1 |
| 22:54.44 | philpem | Linux wolf.philpem.me.uk 2.6.15 #1 Tue Mar 7 09:59:02 GMT 2006 armv5teb GNU/Linux |
| 22:55.03 | pepijn | as i said, i have been running stable with 2.6.16 since last week |
| 22:55.12 | philpem | Bigendian or Littleendian? |
| 22:55.25 | pepijn | after discussions yesterday and today i decided to stay on 2.6.16 |
| 22:55.43 | pepijn | that is, build from mastermakefile from OE and not (yet) from the svn branch on berlios |
| 22:55.59 | pepijn | but currently building from OE fails |
| 22:56.06 | pepijn | currently LE |
| 22:56.13 | philpem | hmm |
| 22:56.21 | philpem | i'm beginning to wonder if this is a system load issue |
| 22:56.22 | pepijn | but i had freezes with both BE and LE Debian |
| 22:56.36 | pepijn | for me it had nothing to do with system load |
| 22:57.01 | philpem | I'm getting load averages of 1.08 idle without eciadsl, if i run BitTorrent that rockets up to 3.83 and the slug hangs within 4 hours |
| 22:57.05 | philpem | nothing in syslog at all |
| 22:57.09 | pepijn | but i am really unsure if our problems are related |
| 22:57.22 | philpem | x86 is little-endian, right? |
| 22:57.32 | pepijn | you are aware of the 1.0 offset for the load numbers ? |
| 22:57.39 | philpem | 1.0 offset? |
| 22:57.40 | pepijn | yes, x86 is LE |
| 22:57.52 | pepijn | uptime shows a load of 1.0 when idle |
| 22:58.09 | philpem | hmm. makes sense. |
| 22:58.14 | philpem | i'm beginning to wonder if there's an endianness bug somewhere. a "heisenbug" if you will. |
| 22:58.26 | pepijn | top show proper %-es, but the load numbers there are also off |
| 22:58.46 | pepijn | that would make sense in a LE environment, IMHO |
| 22:58.49 | philpem | or maybe something related to high usb load... that adsl modem chews a lot of bandwidth. |
| 22:59.30 | philpem | but its running at 233. if i understand correctly, the cpu core will run at 233, but the system bus will stay at 33. that means there shouldn't be any issues with RAM timing or hardware. |
| 22:59.35 | pepijn | can't you try hanging the modem off of another machine? |
| 23:00.00 | philpem | could do. |
| 23:00.24 | philpem | but the whole point of getting the nslu was to get the modem wired up to something that used less power than the x86 box i used to use. |
| 23:00.52 | philpem | obviously its no good if it keeps hanging after a couple of hours though |
| 23:00.54 | pepijn | yes, i understand that |
| 23:01.06 | pepijn | but you do not know wether or not it is the modem |
| 23:01.48 | pepijn | i would suggest trying to build openslug from OE |
| 23:02.05 | philpem | OE=openembedded, i.e. the mastermakefile |
| 23:02.06 | philpem | ? |
| 23:02.07 | pepijn | but just before you came in we discussed a build problem |
| 23:02.09 | pepijn | yes |
| 23:02.25 | pepijn | file is not building, something was checked in that fails the build |
| 23:03.05 | EvilDevil | i'm going to bed now, maybe it's fixed tomorrow ;-) n8 @ll |
| 23:03.55 | pepijn | yeah, me too... talk later |
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| 23:21.34 | marceln | I sent a mail on the developer list about the file problems and hope it is solved to morrow. |
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