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| 00:12.22 | NAiL | ~weather enva |
| 00:12.36 | NAiL | hmm |
| 00:12.43 | NAiL | there we are |
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| 00:31.35 | Asterix33 | hello everyone |
| 00:32.01 | Asterix33 | i have installed cyrus-imapd but have a slight problem....anyone else missing cyradm too? |
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| 08:02.38 | jake_ | hello. |
| 08:02.44 | jake_ | or good morning. |
| 08:03.49 | jake_ | I got some problems with my nslu2, it's not so much capable of being a.. storage device, it more like a temporary storage device. |
| 08:04.05 | jake_ | Since while disk is attached to it, unslung can't fsck it. |
| 08:04.50 | jake_ | and this is already a third time that I loose files while doing a fsck on another machine for disk since unslung wasn't able to boot anymore. |
| 08:05.08 | jake_ | Ok, no, actually I don't loose them. Files are in /lost+found |
| 08:05.50 | jake_ | but some are corrupted, they lack their locating and their filename.. and did I forgot to mention.. There's nearly a million of those files.. :) |
| 08:06.00 | jake_ | So yeah, I kinda lost them.. |
| 08:06.11 | jake_ | So, I was here wondering something.. |
| 08:06.27 | jake_ | When you nóormally boot, let's say, slackware linux.. |
| 08:07.07 | jake_ | on bootup it checks that, oh, disk has been mounted already N times without being checked.. or there's already N days since last fsck.. |
| 08:07.26 | jake_ | unslung 6.x could be having a similar setup too. |
| 08:07.42 | jake_ | while disk hasn |
| 08:08.00 | jake_ | 't yet been mounted, unslung would be able to do a fsck for it. |
| 08:08.42 | jake_ | as you all propably know, clicking "scandisk" (or what ever it was) in web interface does NOT work. |
| 08:21.32 | jake_ | hopefully this was stored to someone's log as I think it ain't too hard for developers to implement, but I decided not to write it on the wiki's wishlist, as page says that it's more like a developers' meeting place instead of end-user wishlist page and as I am too busy with my other projects and ainä't a unslung developer, I wasn't eligible to type it to there. |
| 08:26.01 | jake_ | and I know, fsck'ing big disks is quite slow.. but would we rather wait some times during bootup instead of losing files? |
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| 12:20.06 | oleo | rwhitby: autobuild of optware is broken for 14 days now. |
| 12:20.41 | rwhitby | oleo: which target? |
| 12:21.51 | oleo | looking at autobuild-gastro-last.txt and also nudi. |
| 12:21.59 | rwhitby | If a package is not compiling on a certain target, then add it to <TARGET>_BROKEN_PACKAGES in the Makefile and commit that change. |
| 12:22.35 | rwhitby | the autobuilds for optware are fully under the control of the optware developers through the variables in the Makefile in CVS. |
| 12:22.51 | oleo | I know! cvs.sourceforge.net: Connection timed out |
| 12:23.41 | rwhitby | ok, so it looks like Gastro autobuilds is broken. |
| 12:25.25 | rwhitby | But optware developers can fix optware on nudi. |
| 12:26.54 | oleo | Yes. And I dont know why NUDI also does not work? Python should compile. But now with libuclibc++ /opt is also patched. Maybe there is a need for manual install ov libuclibc++-stage on build machine. |
| 12:27.48 | rwhitby | surely the first package that depends on it will stage it. |
| 12:29.26 | rwhitby | Hmm - dyoung will need to update the autobuild on gastro to push to limax |
| 12:30.54 | oleo | Please please. Can you reslove this ASAP. Bzhou solved ldso problem on wl500g and now python should work and also all dependent packages. so there should not be any build problem when new py-package is added. |
| 12:31.21 | rwhitby | oleo: if I knew how to resolve it, I would. |
| 12:32.12 | oleo | So who has access to autobuild if not you? |
| 12:33.19 | rwhitby | I have access to autobuild. You have not told me explicitly what needs to be done. You have said "maybe this needs to be done". If there is a problem which is not solvable by optware developers using the variables in the Makefile, then tell me what needs to be done on the build machine to fix that problem. |
| 12:34.34 | oleo | Can you explain the differences in gastro, nudi? limax? |
| 12:34.35 | rwhitby | (e.g. if you say "the build directory for <foo> package for wl500g on nudi needs to be deleted to force a rebuild", or something like that, then i can easily do that for you. |
| 12:34.46 | rwhitby | nudi is the cross-compile build machine |
| 12:34.54 | rwhitby | gastro is the native-compile build machine |
| 12:35.16 | rwhitby | limax is the place where the built packages end up |
| 12:35.17 | oleo | For sourceforge connection I would first test connectivity, then maybe SSH keys are broken |
| 12:36.02 | rwhitby | Gastro autobuild is far more broken than just the ssh keys. dyoung will have to work on it. Are there native compiles that are holding things up? |
| 12:36.21 | rwhitby | I thought you were talking about Python on nudi ... ? |
| 12:37.34 | oleo | no. No native. But then nudi is the wlace to work with. Is there a command to push autobuild process on nudi? Is cron once a day? |
| 12:37.50 | rwhitby | autobuild runs every 15 minutes. |
| 12:38.53 | oleo | So if I remove all python staging reference and python itself, other packages will proceed? |
| 12:39.44 | rwhitby | Looking at the logs, it seems that Python is broken on wl500g. You should simply add python to WL500G_BROKEN_PACKAGES and contact the maintainer of that package to get it fixed. |
| 12:39.56 | oleo | OK will test this imediatelly? And see in half an hour. |
| 12:42.21 | oleo | No this is not enough. We must mark broken all python dependent packages as they will stage it. Python is already marked broken! |
| 12:43.07 | rwhitby | have fun! |
| 12:43.34 | oleo | OK. Thanks for info. |
| 12:46.02 | oleo | rwhitby: But is /opt writable on NUDI? |
| 13:15.44 | CIA-8 | 03oleon * 10unslung/Makefile: optware: Demote all python dependent packages on wl500g - Cleanup will follow when python is fuly functional |
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| 16:11.20 | bwalle | hello, I have a short question to the OpenSlug build system |
| 16:11.28 | bwalle | I need to compile a kernel module for 2.7-beta |
| 16:12.09 | bwalle | If I set up the build system with 'make openslug-image' I get the most recent kernel tree, right? |
| 17:23.24 | oleo | eno: How can python build have separate LDFLAGS for buildpython and crosscompiled stage? Is there a option in configure? |
| 17:23.55 | eno | i'll need to look |
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| 17:42.25 | eno | oleo, we probably can change sources/python/configure.in.patch |
| 17:55.58 | oleo | OK. Can you do this? different environment variables like PYTHON_BUILD_LDFLAGS and PYTHON_LDFLAGS |
| 18:02.20 | eno | yeah, testing that right now, one moment |
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| 18:14.06 | eno | oleo, have to b away for a bit |
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| 20:08.56 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/python.mk sources/python/configure.in.patch): HOSTPYTHON now have separate CPPFLAGS/LDFLAGS, added wl500g uclibc workaround |
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| 20:31.00 | oleo | eno, python now ends up with "/bin/sh: ./buildpython/python: No such file or directory" |
| 20:34.19 | eno | build time or run time? |
| 20:34.56 | oleo | build time. |
| 20:35.44 | eno | any error when building buildpython/python ? |
| 20:38.50 | eno | i tested optware/nslu2 and optware/wl500g, both seem to build fine, no error in my build log |
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| 20:39.04 | oleo | I think that instead CC="" CXX="" AR="" RANLIB="" $absconfigcommand --prefix=$prefix you should have LDFLAGS=$PYTHON_HOSTPYTHON_LDFLAGS CC="" CXX="" AR="" RANLIB="" $absconfigcommand --prefix=$prefix |
| 20:41.17 | eno | that's for the CROSS_COMPILE=yes part, i don't think we want to introduce PYTHON_HOSTPYTHON_* in there |
| 20:43.00 | oleo | I have just followed "cd buildpython" line. |
| 20:43.59 | eno | ok, i think you have a point |
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| 20:46.36 | oleo | And also builded python. :) Changet that line into CC="" CXX="" AR="" RANLIB="" LDFLAGS="$PYTHON_HOSTPYTHON_LDFLAGS" $absconfigcommand --prefix=$prefix and now it works. Will test the ipk on my machine. Znd maybe add -lz for zlib linking. |
| 20:48.20 | oleo | And bump ipk version. |
| 20:49.40 | eno | although i still don't fully understand - after "Configuring build python" line, shouldn't $build and $host be equal? |
| 20:50.10 | eno | both should be i686-pc-linux-gnu |
| 20:50.50 | eno | thus, it should not take else (CROSS_COMPILE=no) branch |
| 20:51.25 | eno | it should take the else (CROSS_COMPILE=no) branch (disregard the previous line) |
| 20:52.57 | oleo | I tought that you understand this? I am takinh naive approach, tho get the beast working. And of course ith bothers me because buildpython is geting built over and over in every stage. This should be a separate stage as I mentioned before. |
| 20:52.58 | eno | also, PYTHON_HOSTPYTHON_* is make variables, should not be visible to the configure scripts |
| 20:53.45 | eno | have you taken my corresponding python.mk change? |
| 20:55.09 | oleo | yes. cvs -u up -dP |
| 20:55.24 | oleo | s/-u/-q/ |
| 20:56.25 | eno | it does not bother me that much to build buildpython everytime python is built |
| 20:57.03 | eno | i'm not the original author of python cross compilation, to separate the buildpython requires more changes than i'm willing to take |
| 20:57.56 | eno | that's not something we need to address right now |
| 21:00.03 | oleo | shure. Whath bothers me is that http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/buildlogs/autobuild-nudi-last.txt shows it is stuck. It looks like CVS update is not working. |
| 21:07.05 | oleo | test_curses.py works, test_crypt.py works, test_gzip.py segfaults as there is no -lz, readline works of course. Is there a test for db? |
| 21:08.53 | oleo | test_dbm.py Segmentation fault. But there is a way. |
| 21:14.03 | eno | "/home/slug/optware/wl500g/staging/opt/lib/libpython2.4.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation" |
| 21:16.00 | oleo | test_sundry.py works. I have removed all python references from Makefile for wl500g. It look like monotone is just not updating. Will ask rwithby for help. Again. |
| 21:16.57 | eno | sometimes monotone update takes quite a long while to finish |
| 21:17.32 | oleo | 8 hours? |
| 21:17.44 | eno | not that long |
| 21:18.16 | oleo | It is stuck for 14 days. I think. |
| 21:19.42 | oleo | If you look http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/wl500g/ Packages date. |
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| 21:21.01 | eno | nudi-last.txt is definitely not using my latest check-in |
| 21:21.50 | NAiL | yeah, the builds are broken |
| 21:24.51 | eno | so we have two problems: 1) nudi autobuild broken 2) with my latest configure.in.patch, your ./buildpython/python build time failure |
| 21:26.41 | oleo | 2) is solved solved by me now and waiting CI after zlib abd db regression tests. |
| 21:27.46 | oleo | For 1) rwhitby in the morning. Maybe. |
| 21:29.19 | oleo | And before checkin I want to solve this ipkg: Cannot create symlink from ./usr/bin/python to '/opt/bin/python': Read-only file system |
| 21:29.32 | NAiL | rwhitby: Any idea on the dependency-problem (nothing provides libc6) that breaks the builds on nudi? |
| 21:29.53 | NAiL | Is it time to clean out the whole dir and start over? |
| 21:30.01 | eno | that line is problematic for wl500g |
| 21:30.39 | eno | but we want the symlink for other platforms |
| 21:31.21 | rwhitby | oleo: there is no way that an autobuild should be writing to /opt on the build system. |
| 21:31.34 | oleo | Why this link is needed? I saw that rwhitby set this on nslu2. But we do not have /usr/bin/ writable. Just /usr/local/bin. |
| 21:32.21 | rwhitby | oleo: cause some scripts assume /usr/bin/python, just like /bin/sh or /usr/bin/perl. |
| 21:32.37 | eno | just do a conditional in make/python.mk around line 247 |
| 21:33.54 | oleo | OK for that link. But rwhitby, libuclibc++ must be installed over existing toolchain. I do not see any other simple way. |
| 21:34.24 | rwhitby | oleo: by existing toolchain what exactly do you mean? |
| 21:35.14 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/python.mk: /usr/bin is read-only on wl500g |
| 21:36.14 | rwhitby | seems there was a problem with monotone update on nudi due to the OE problems in the last week. I have now cleared that. |
| 21:36.30 | oleo | I mean oleg toolchain /opt/brcm/hndtools-mipsel-uclibc-3.2.3 is updated with C++ libraries. and g++ is then wrapped. |
| 21:37.00 | rwhitby | oleo: ok, someone has to provide a tarball to install replacing the existing installation. |
| 21:37.26 | rwhitby | (i.e. a complete replacement, not an addition, cause we need to keep the tarball for disaster recovery) |
| 21:37.41 | rwhitby | (and also so others can download the tarball to replicate the build environment) |
| 21:37.48 | oleo | It is just to enter make libuclibc++-stage or make libuclibc++-install |
| 21:38.20 | rwhitby | um, foo-stage should never write outside of the staging dir |
| 21:38.46 | oleo | but if /opt/brcm/hndtools-mipsel-uclibc is writable is enough. |
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| 21:41.04 | oleo | This stage should be there for the case of uClibc++ upgrade. |
| 21:41.49 | eno | oleo, is there a way to have the wrapper be under optware/wl500g/toolchain ? |
| 21:41.50 | rwhitby | why isn't uClibC++ staged into staging, and then found in there with a -L switch ? |
| 21:41.51 | oleo | I can add writability check if you suggest so? |
| 21:45.01 | oleo | This was my first try. But all configure and autoconf tools assumes hard paths. At start I've had mipsel-uclibc-g++-uc compiler wraper. But then most of the packages failed to find it as there was g++. "Use the force luke!" was not enough. |
| 21:48.03 | oleo | Or we can just say: "Before using Oleg toolchain, One must issue make libuclibc++-install". Oleg says "make uclibc" must be issued before any other. |
| 21:50.53 | rwhitby | oleo: here's the thing. We are *not* going to give write permission to /opt/... to the build account. That would be a *huge* security hole, let alone a maintenance and recovery management nightmare. |
| 21:51.18 | rwhitby | The toolchain in /opt comes from a tarball. If it's to be updated, it's gonna be by another tarball. |
| 21:51.56 | rwhitby | To put it simply, a .mk file is simply not allowed to write outside of it's build and staging areas. |
| 21:55.15 | rwhitby | So let me know when you have a replacement tarball for /opt/brcm/hndtools-*, and I'll be happy to install that. We can even put it up on nslu.sf.net/downloads so other people can download it too. |
| 21:55.49 | oleo | I understand that security hole. I will remove this staging and then will ask you to issue make libuclibc++ install. |
| 21:56.54 | oleo | s/++ i/++-install/ |
| 21:57.14 | eno | oleo, maybe you can provide a tarball containing all the touched files of 'libuclibc++' |
| 21:57.48 | oleo | Yes no problem on that. |
| 21:57.57 | eno | s/libuclibc++/libuclibc++ install/ |
| 21:58.54 | oleo | stupid bot. |
| 22:01.44 | eno | oleo, does the following look reasonable (just started another make python-ipk)? |
| 22:01.51 | eno | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.51 | eno | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.51 | eno | -PYTHON_LDFLAGS=-lncurses -lreadline -lcrypt -lssl |
| 22:01.51 | eno | +PYTHON_LDFLAGS=-lcrypt -ldb-$(LIBDB_LIB_VERSION) -lncurses -lreadline -lssl -lz |
| 22:01.52 | eno | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.01 | rwhitby | please provide a tarball with the complete /opt/brcm/hndtools-... directory. We want to have a single tarball that we (and other people) can install. "make libuclibc++" is not a means to configuration manage the /opt directory. |
| 22:05.42 | rwhitby | (as the results depend on when you type that command, if the .mk file changes, or upstream changes) |
| 22:08.39 | CIA-8 | 03oleon * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/libuclibc++.mk): libuclibc++: toolchain on wl500g requires manual install with 'make libuclibc++-install' or separate toolchain tarball |
| 22:10.23 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/python.mk: exclude /usr/bin for wl500g ipk |
| 22:11.55 | rwhitby | oleo: is Oleg going to provide uclibc++ in the next release of his toolchain? |
| 22:15.04 | oleo | C++ programs are not of his interest, I presume. So there is not a big interest. I've begged him to upgrade uclibc to 0.9.28, without success. |
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| 22:17.47 | CIA-8 | 03oleon * 10unslung/sources/python/configure.in.patch: python: add PYTHON_HOSTPYTHON_LDFLAGS LDFLAGS to buildpython stage |
| 22:18.06 | bwalle | I have a short question to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap: touch /.recovery doesn't work, it boots into debian |
| 22:18.34 | bwalle | at least I don't see any difference to Debian |
| 22:18.43 | NAiL | no, .recovery doesn't work |
| 22:18.51 | NAiL | just unplug the disk |
| 22:19.04 | bwalle | should I correct in Wiki? |
| 22:19.13 | NAiL | yeah |
| 22:21.10 | bwalle | NAiL: the rest is correct? ;) |
| 22:21.33 | NAiL | I do believe so, lemme check |
| 22:21.51 | bwalle | Of course I made a backup, but it's more comfortable if I don't loose data :) |
| 22:22.30 | NAiL | well, "rm /mnt/debinst/.recovery" isn't required anymore then |
| 22:23.09 | bwalle | yes, of course, my mistake |
| 22:23.49 | NAiL | np ;) |
| 22:25.53 | bwalle | NAiL: Maybe I should add that login account openslug to the Wiki? |
| 22:26.14 | NAiL | hmm? |
| 22:26.37 | bwalle | root |
| 22:26.38 | bwalle | of course |
| 22:26.43 | bwalle | opeNSLUg passwor |
| 22:26.47 | NAiL | ah, yeah |
| 22:28.41 | oleo | rwhitby: how should this toolchain be called? Original name is hndtools-mipsel-uclibc-3.2.3-full.tar.bz2 at http://wl500g.dyndns.org/uClibc-0.9.19 but I dont know if this is the latest as I am building this toolchan with make uclibc which patches /opt/brcm :) |
| 22:33.01 | bwalle | NAiL: could it be that the 'turnup ram' is necessary after the reboot, too? |
| 22:33.19 | bwalle | at least I got an error |
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| 22:34.02 | NAiL | bwalle: Yeah, the turnup ram should be done |
| 22:34.48 | bwalle | then the reboot is not needed, right? |
| 22:35.04 | NAiL | to reflash, no |
| 22:35.33 | bwalle | NAiL: halt; unplug; turn on nslu; turnup ram; plug disk; mount; reflash |
| 22:35.39 | bwalle | right? |
| 22:36.43 | NAiL | turnup ram; reboot; mount; reflash |
| 22:37.01 | bwalle | that's in the wiki but that doesn't work |
| 22:37.05 | NAiL | hmm |
| 22:37.11 | NAiL | where does it error out? |
| 22:37.28 | bwalle | It didn't boot from this, so the 'turnup ram' was successful. The disk was plugged in. |
| 22:37.33 | bwalle | root@villabacho:/# reflash -i mnt/debinst/home/debianslug-nslu2-20060304193441.flashdisk.img |
| 22:37.33 | bwalle | /sbin/reflash: /dev/mtdblock4 is mounted on /, use turnup ram |
| 22:37.44 | NAiL | hmm |
| 22:37.51 | NAiL | gotta go, can look at it later |
| 22:38.45 | rwhitby | oleo: give it the version number from the uclibc you are building from, and add -uclibc++ to the end instead of -full. |
| 22:41.08 | oleo | OK. Will update wiki with link. And then you should install this. Right now I am compiling latests firmware and then will patch toolchainm just to verify it is OK. |
| 22:41.54 | rwhitby | ok |
| 22:42.15 | rwhitby | ping me when it is ready to be installed on nudi |
| 22:43.38 | jacques | uclibc++, neat |
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| 22:51.59 | eno | oleo, i don't think your last sources/python/configure.in.patch should make any difference |
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| 22:55.59 | eno | just do a before/after comparison of builds/python/buildpython/Makefile |
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| 23:25.42 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/python.mk sources/python/configure.in.patch): removed PYTHON_HOSTPYTHON_*, simply setting LDFLAGS="" before buildpython configure |
| 23:32.50 | bwalle | NAiL: after another reboot, it worked. Don't ask me why. |
| 23:32.56 | bwalle | The new version runs fine :) |
| 23:33.07 | NAiL | good :) |
| 23:33.12 | bwalle | Thanks for your help! |
| 23:33.26 | NAiL | np |
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