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00:17.03CIA-803mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r84aceb98... 10/packages/evince/evince_0.3.2.bb: evince rdepends on gconf
00:17.06CIA-803mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * rfbc9813e... 10/packages/maemo/osso-gnome-vfs2_2.8.4.4-1.bb: make osso-gnome-vfs2 not PROVIDE gnome-vfs2. If it really PROVIDES it you should add a virtual/gnome-vfs2 providee
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00:36.48CIA-803rw 07org.openembedded.dev * rffa4e887... 10/classes/module.bbclass: module.bbclass: run depmod/update-modules in postinst/postrm
00:36.51CIA-803rw 07org.openembedded.dev * rd185120a... 10/packages/at76c503a/at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb: at76c503a-modules: running update-modules is now done by module.bbclass
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01:21.55CIA-803ka6sox 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r82bd07e2... 10/ (Makefile common/openembedded.mk): Added back in -image targets for Master makes for unslung, openembedded, and ucslugc
01:21.58CIA-803ka6sox 07org.openembedded.dev * r736b526a... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig): Added usb-audio support
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01:41.17CIA-803ka6sox 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r1cb64558... 10/Makefile: Fix .PHONY line for ucslugc-image
01:44.03ka6sox-awaywhere is CIA's website?
01:46.36DaKahttp://cia.navi.cx
01:50.47ka6sox-awayDaKa, thanks.
02:15.07rwhitby-awayNew Slug-Central photos are up: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/slug-central
02:19.05ka6sox-awayyou are going to have to add a second story.
02:19.29ka6sox-awayor maybe a Veranda
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02:23.46geojeffka6sox-away, heh, where's the iMic in those photos? :)
02:24.53geojeffoh, that's rw's
02:27.52ka6sox-awayit is rw's
02:28.11ka6sox-awaygeojeff, were you planning on unslung or openslug?
02:28.23ka6sox-awayI'm currently working with openslug
02:36.41geojeffunslung, but i could do openslug if need be
02:42.56rwhitby-awayFYI: The org.openembedded.nslu2-linux branch is deprecated, and will be inaccessible later this week.
02:43.28rwhitby-awayTo migrate, just run "make setup ; make update" - you do not need to delete anything, and nothing should rebuild as a result.
02:43.47rwhitby-awayHmm - make that "make update ; make setup"
02:44.08rwhitby-away(the "make setup" is required to reset your default branch include pattern)
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13:37.43Mattaanyone have a binary snapshot of the latest openslug flashimage?
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15:32.43ka6sox-zzzzNAiL, what would the street price of this thingy be?
15:32.48ka6sox-zzzzover $300?
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16:16.37CIA-803rw 07org.openembedded.dev * r63241dba... 10/conf/machine/h3600.conf: h3600.conf: switch to alsa drivers
16:25.11mithrohey rwhitby-away, you around?
16:31.57Tierstenthere is and it's been done
16:32.01kolla_the batteyr seems to be in the way
16:32.15kolla_well, I thought about using sockets
16:32.19Tierstenyou need to temporarily remove the battery holder anyway to change the chips so you just put it on higher
16:32.21Tierstensockets?
16:32.45kolla_yes, you put a socket upside down ontop of the installed ram chips, and mount new ram on them :)
16:33.06NAiLka6sox-zzzz: I've seen the g+ version (The most expensive one) for ~220 USD
16:33.09Tierstenwhat type of socket are you thinking of?
16:33.19kolla_chip-sockets..
16:33.20TierstenThe ones which can accept those chips have a latch that goes over it
16:33.29Tierstenuh huh... what type of chip socket...
16:33.31kolla_oh.. bah :)
16:33.57Tierstenit wouldn't be reliable.  stack them
16:33.59Tierstenproper
16:34.00Tierstenly
16:34.03kolla_Tiersten: the idea was to get a "solder free" solution :)
16:34.09Tierstenimpossible
16:34.18Tierstenyou still need to remove the battery holder
16:34.22kolla_yes :)
16:34.24Tierstenand you need to connect the bank select line
16:34.39NAiLkolla_: Do you have chips that work? Do you have two extra? ;)
16:34.58kolla_NAiL: no, just thinking so far, no action
16:35.28TierstenIf you are stacking the chips then you MUST have the same banksize and specs as the existing chips
16:35.43TierstenThe IXP SDRAM controller doesn't allow you to have different banks.  They must be identical
16:35.47NAiLkolla_: Ok, I've got a slug with (probably) faulty memory. So I'm looking for some chips to replace the one's I've already got
16:35.51kolla_however.. on a completely different matter.. my gamecube booted linux today, and to my surprice it was plenty happy to boot into a stage3 gentoo on nfs-root :)
16:36.28kolla_Tiersten: it's not big deal for me, 32MB is plenty enough so far
16:37.04TierstenA socket for a TSOP chip is usually only used for testing and looks like http://www.emulation.com/cgi-cfm/insert_quantity.cfm?part_number=S-TSO-SM-048-A,
16:37.22Tierstenalso you don't clamp it from the top
16:37.53Tierstenyou'd want a test clip
16:37.56Tierstenwhich aren't small :)
16:38.14kolla_heh, will you shut up so I can click the url? thanks :)
16:38.19kolla_I tried 3 times
16:38.19Tiersten:p
16:38.25NAiLhaha
16:38.27TierstenNAiL: Ask DaKa?
16:38.40TierstenHe might have some lying around considering he upgraded his
16:38.45kolla_ok, you can continue now :)
16:39.06NAiLTiersten: Yeah, but kolla is like, right next by, so no shipping would be necessary
16:39.33NAiLof course, if DaKa's old chips work, it probably wouldn't cost much to ship 'em
16:39.36NAiLDaKa: ping?
16:39.53TierstenDidn't think DaKa was that far away anyway...
16:40.24NAiLHe's in Sweden, I'm in Norway ;)
16:40.40Tierstenmeh.  close enough!
16:40.50Tierstenwrap it well and put it into a letter envelope
16:40.54NAiLyeah
16:40.58Tierstenif you can't afford that postage then well....
16:41.16NAiLMaybe I should yank the ones I've got in the DS-101! ;)
16:41.26Tierstenare they even the correct type?
16:41.41NAiLThey work just fine with the IXP in the DS-101 :)
16:42.04TierstenOh.  You've got the 101 not the 101g+superhypermega model
16:42.09NAiLyes
16:42.26TierstenIf you're going to change the fundamental parts inside a device then PLEASE give it a new model number...
16:42.35Tiersten*cough* Linksys can take note
16:42.40NAiLhehe
16:43.18NAiLIt'd be nice if there was some way to discern which hardware revision too... (Intel flash vs. DoC)
16:44.02TierstenIt changes?
16:44.53NAiLWell, Tomshardware has one with intel flash. I can't see which hardware rev it is though, because that's on the backside of the board.
16:45.11NAiLI've got a Rev 3.0, which has DoC
16:45.13TierstenWhat DoC you got?
16:45.30NAiLHang on a little while, gotta disassemble it ;)
16:45.46Tierstendisappointed in you.  no pics and lists of part numbers.  :p
16:46.06NAiLI haven't had time to do it all yet ;)
16:49.50NAiLM-Systems DiskOnChip Plus, MD2811-D16-V3Q18, TAIWAN04 1 99ADDX23965
16:50.20Tiersteneven more disappointed.  took you 4 minutes to take it apart!  I'd hope you were an expert by now ;)
16:50.44NAiLmost of the time was spent reading the chip
16:50.55NAiLIt's dark in the corner where I'm sitting ;)
16:52.21Tierstenthat's one of their old ones
16:53.59Tierstenhttp://www.m-systems.com/NR/rdonlyres/1AC482C7-3708-4D66-8B2A-3D9A297A62C0/0/DOC_Millennium_Plus_DS_Rev17.pdf|DOC_Millennium_Plus_DS_Rev1.7.pdf
16:54.05TierstenThat's the datasheet for it
16:56.42TierstenIn your case it is probably just appearing like a normal flash but if you do break it then you'll need a commercial programmer to reflash it
16:56.50TierstenJTAG Tools doesn't support DoC's
16:57.01NAiLugh
16:57.03NAiLnot goot
16:57.06NAiLgood
17:03.13NAiLaaargh
17:03.22Tiersten?
17:03.32NAiL~lart synology for including uclibc sources when they're really using glibc
17:04.23NAiLThey're using an incomplete glibc, and I'm wondering if there are any other modifications to it as well
17:05.22kolla_ah, the gc is a lot happier with some swap
17:05.32kolla_now it emerges nicely :)
17:05.34DaKaNAiL: pong?
17:05.35Tierstenswap?
17:05.40kolla_on nfs
17:05.40Tierstenover the network?
17:05.42Tierstenah
17:05.48NAiLDaKa: Any spare chips left? ;)
17:05.55Tierstenjust wondering if they'd done swap to a memory card or something daft like that :)
17:06.06TierstenA whole 128K or whatever size they are
17:06.11DaKaNAiL: I have a pile of untested 8Mx16
17:06.13kolla_hehe, like my zaurus you mean? :)
17:06.37kolla_Tiersten: yes, those cards.. nah :)
17:06.53kolla_it's insane what pricetags they put on them btw
17:07.05kolla_same for sony and microsoft btw :)
17:07.35Tierstendoes anybody actually buy the xbox ones though?
17:07.47TierstenI don't have any since I just store it all on the HD
17:07.54NAiLTiersten: The highly overpriced usbsticks?
17:07.58Tierstenyeah
17:08.03NAiLDaKa: Mind selling me two? :D
17:08.04kolla_very much :)
17:08.13NAiLI've got a 120GB in my xbox
17:08.21NAiLSo I don't care about memsticks
17:08.31kolla_same here
17:08.49NAiLOf course, I have an adapter for the XBox-thingy, so I can connect a "normal" memstick
17:08.51DaKaNAiL: I might just send them off to you for free
17:08.56Tiersteneven with the standard 8GB HD you're never going to need a memory card unless you want to go to a friends with your save
17:09.05NAiLTiersten: yeah
17:09.23TierstenDaKa/NAiL: If they're untested then you could just end up with an equally broken but just in a different spot NSLU2 :)
17:09.32NAiLDaKa: I'd be a very happy man. It does look like my current devslug has amnesia :P
17:10.06TierstenI'm still curious as to what exactly you've done to those NSLU2s to break them
17:10.07DaKaThey are still on sdram sticks, so.. just pop into a PC and run some tests
17:10.23NAiLDaKa: ah, memtest86 is my friend
17:10.40NAiL(And a kernel compile -j 3 for a bunch iterations)
17:10.50DaKa:)
17:17.11NAiLhmm
17:17.22NAiLthe DS-101 /linuxrc is actually a symlink to busybox
17:20.02NAiLheh
17:20.08NAiLbusybox is brilliant...
17:20.09NAiL<PROTECTED>
17:20.41kolla_new software coming up for the slug... vblade
17:21.10kolla_lets the slug share a device with ATA-over-Ethernet
17:21.13NAiLWhat's that?
17:22.02NAiLaha
17:22.03NAiL<PROTECTED>
17:22.03NAiL<PROTECTED>
17:22.28kolla_hehe
17:22.50kolla_anyways, there's an AoE evaluation dingy that costs lke 300USD, and then there's vblade :)
17:23.01NAiLaah
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17:26.20CIA-803mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r42d69359... 10/packages/efl++/efl++.inc: efl++: catch up with upstream changes
17:26.50NAiLman, they're futzing around in the DS-101 boot process
17:29.24NAiL# root device is not cleanly unmounted, clear it and copy everything.
17:29.34NAiLYaysis
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21:31.29gernikaYou guys need the loglibrary module update:  http://www.loglibrary.com/plugins/loglibrary-1.01.tar.gz
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21:55.03NAiLdyoung-zzzz: could you add #ds101-linux to nslu2bot?
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22:10.16CIA-803daka 07org.openembedded.dev * rdc18eced... 10/ (.mt-attrs packages/apache/apache_2.0.54.bb): Fix apache to use openssl from staging. Fix depends on pcre and expat. NOTE: still just for native building.
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23:13.36dyoungcool.
23:13.46dyoungAlls back to normal with the logging world.
23:13.52NAiLgut
23:37.00CIA-803mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * rcbb257c5... 10/packages/nonworking/alsa-driver/alsadriver_0.9.8.bb: remove obsolete alsa-driver .bb
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23:37.08CIA-803mickeyl 07org.openembedded.dev * r80954f6b... 10/packages/obexpush/obexpush_1.0.0.bb: obexpush: ship daemon in sbindir

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