| 00:03.35 | jumpkick | anyone know if there's a unslug feed with acm.o kernel module already compiled? |
| 00:04.47 | jumpkick | er unslung |
| 00:08.51 | jp30-work | jumpkick, no, there's not, but you could build it yourself from source. if you don't want to build anything from source, you are asking in the wrong place |
| 00:13.33 | jumpkick | hmm... are there non-obsolete build instructions? something newer then http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/StepByStepSetup? |
| 00:15.08 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: the yahoo nslu2-linux mailing list |
| 00:16.41 | jp30-work | jumpkick: "wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile ; make setup ; make unslung" |
| 00:17.05 | jumpkick | cool thx |
| 00:17.27 | jp30-work | ...you will need monotone installed too |
| 00:18.39 | jp30-work | ...look in openembedded/packages/linux/unslung-kernel/defconfig for the kernel configuration |
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| 00:20.14 | jumpkick | jp30-work: how much disk do I put aside for it? (I'm making a VMware image) |
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| 00:43.53 | jp30-work | jumpkick: 2GB at least |
| 00:44.04 | jumpkick | k thanks |
| 00:45.00 | jp30-work | just the unslung build will use all of 2GB, 3 would be safer |
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| 03:46.15 | landslide | jp30: i made a 20 gb partition... i've just run out of space on my 4gb :( |
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| 06:29.10 | robbat2 | yo |
| 06:29.23 | robbat2 | I built the serial cable using the modified-serial-cable instructions, using the siemens cable. |
| 06:29.32 | robbat2 | however all I get over the serial line is garbage |
| 06:29.43 | robbat2 | i am using the correct speeds and everything, and the serial line does work |
| 06:30.01 | robbat2 | 115200, 8N1, XON/XOFF disabled, software flow control enabled |
| 06:42.04 | dyoung | what are you connecting with? |
| 06:43.30 | robbat2 | both minicom and xc produce the same results |
| 06:46.51 | dyoung | With minicom I have no flow control. |
| 06:47.05 | dyoung | 115200,8n1 works for me |
| 06:47.39 | robbat2 | the garbage is different with no flow control at all, but it's still garbage |
| 06:47.50 | dyoung | what does it look like? |
| 06:48.34 | dyoung | and when is this, at boot, or when its already running? |
| 06:49.04 | robbat2 | the garbage I get is weird stuff from the echo |
| 06:49.06 | dyoung | And then what parts are in your serial cable? |
| 06:49.10 | robbat2 | it's very little garbage |
| 06:49.27 | robbat2 | if I type in a-z, I get this response "yssfefgoijknmno~yrsvuvw~yz" |
| 06:50.34 | dyoung | so this is at startup; or its already up and running? |
| 06:50.44 | dyoung | basically I'm wondering if youre seeing GDB Codes from redboot... |
| 06:50.48 | dyoung | which look like garbage. |
| 06:51.15 | robbat2 | no, i have booted the unit, it's web-accessible, then connected serial port |
| 06:51.27 | robbat2 | but it's the same if a boot with serial port connected already |
| 06:52.09 | dyoung | okay what parts are in your serial cable? |
| 06:59.13 | robbat2 | it's a siemens C25 serial cable |
| 07:02.31 | robbat2 | i took the route suggested by the "RS232 connection with a kit |
| 07:02.36 | robbat2 | section |
| 07:04.11 | dyoung | So theres really a MAX3232 in there? |
| 07:04.37 | robbat2 | well it's totally encased in plastic, but the voltage levels are definetly correct (3.3V on the slug side) |
| 07:05.29 | dyoung | hmm |
| 07:06.25 | robbat2 | i can cut one apart if we really need it, as I bought 5 of the siemens cables on a good deal |
| 07:06.29 | dyoung | have you tried rebooting with the cable attached? |
| 07:06.51 | robbat2 | yeah, i've tried rebooting, no joy. no + or anything actually |
| 07:17.20 | robbat2 | ok, i'm working on taking one of the cables apart now |
| 07:17.38 | robbat2 | it's a major task, as it's basically a small plastic enclosure, cast into more plastic |
| 07:20.45 | dyoung | If youre sure about your wiring, I dunno what else it could be... |
| 07:21.41 | dyoung | I used a MAX232 in a pinch, and it didnt *really* work, but it didnt exhibit the symptoms you describe either. |
| 07:50.02 | landslide | dyoung: does master make really take as long as it's taking |
| 07:50.28 | landslide | i ran out of diskspace on vmware and had a nice time migrating to another virtual disk that is now 40gb instead of 4gb ;) |
| 08:47.47 | dyoung | Is it actually compiling now? |
| 08:48.10 | dyoung | I think a "from scratch" compile for me takes several hours. |
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| 08:58.52 | rwhitby | nudi does a from-scratch compile of unslung and openslug in 7 hours. |
| 09:12.11 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Fixed a type on the packages target. |
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| 09:47.22 | CIA-9 | 03marceln * 10unslung/make/dovecot.mk: |
| 09:47.22 | CIA-9 | First version that compiles and makes a ipkg. |
| 09:47.22 | CIA-9 | TODO: |
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| 09:49.55 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r74821799... 10/Makefile: Added a naive autobuild target |
| 10:09.26 | CIA-9 | 03dyoung 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * rce6f9ade... 10/Makefile: change names from sync_foo to sync-foo |
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| 10:48.40 | Matta | I'm lost, is there a step by step guide somewhere on how to add a new kernel-module package? from enabling it in the kernel build to making sure there will be an ipk package after the build |
| 10:50.54 | dyoung | thats pretty much exactly what you need to do |
| 10:58.22 | Matta | just enabling them in the config doesn't seem to be enough.. or I may be in the wrong config |
| 10:58.51 | dyoung | which "the config" are you talking about? |
| 11:00.05 | Matta | nslu2-linux/packages/linux/openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig |
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| 11:03.17 | dyoung | that should do it |
| 11:10.30 | Matta | well, I have a CONFIG_USB_HID=m line in that file, but searching for *hid* in the openslug source tree doesn't return anything other than .h and .c files |
| 11:11.13 | dyoung | did openslug-kernel rebuild? |
| 11:11.30 | dyoung | if it did, look in tmp/deploy/ipk for your kernel-module-foo file |
| 11:11.40 | Matta | I added those lines to the clean source tree |
| 11:12.21 | Matta | nope, no ipks there |
| 11:12.38 | Matta | but I don't think it even built the module |
| 11:13.30 | Matta | could there be a dependancy issue in the defconf file? I just added those lines by manually editing it |
| 11:13.46 | Matta | if the kernel needs something else for those modules it probably fails? |
| 11:19.20 | dyoung | you may want to sanity check that defconfig then. |
| 11:19.22 | dyoung | um... |
| 11:19.37 | dyoung | make oldconfig or somethi nglike that |
| 11:19.49 | dyoung | from within tmp/work/openslug-kernel-foo |
| 11:21.45 | Matta | k, I'll try that |
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| 11:45.02 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r0850de9c... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 11:45.02 | CIA-9 | propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 0f025031c9581db625c09129982ac1a87eca3484) |
| 11:45.02 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.08 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r009ad2eb... 10/ (classes/nslu2-mirrors.bbclass conf/machine/nslu2.conf): Changed nslu2 mirrors to use INHERIT and a .bbclass file instead. |
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| 11:51.07 | rwhitby | g'day DaKa2 |
| 11:51.29 | DaKa2 | :) |
| 11:51.54 | rwhitby | dyoung: repo is now updated to use sources.nslu2-linux.org as the mirror of last resort and cvs stash tarball of choice |
| 11:53.53 | Matta | hmm, make oldconfig doesn't recognise the ixp4xx so it becomes crap |
| 11:53.55 | Matta | ;) |
| 11:54.41 | rwhitby | Matta: what I usually do is diff the defconfig, and the .config file that results from removing and then rebuilding the openslug-kernel bb |
| 12:09.33 | Matta | k, did that, recompiling |
| 12:11.08 | rwhitby | you'll notice some "=n"'s in there which are required and which get changed to "is not set"'s. |
| 12:20.58 | Matta | hmm, even though I've enabled stuff in defconfig, the tmp/work/.../linux-2.6.12.2/.config file has them as not set |
| 12:23.46 | rwhitby | Matta: then you need to read the Kconfig files to see what is turning it off |
| 12:23.52 | dyoung | probably depend on something... |
| 12:23.53 | rwhitby | what is it again? |
| 12:24.04 | dyoung | USB_HID |
| 12:25.07 | rwhitby | CONFIG_USB_HID=m |
| 12:25.16 | rwhitby | that's in the latest openslug kernel .config |
| 12:26.11 | rwhitby | And /home/slug/openslug/tmp/deploy/ipk/kernel-module-usbhid_2.6.12.2-r4_nslu2.ipk gets created. |
| 12:26.36 | rwhitby | so what's the problem? |
| 12:28.10 | Matta | they don't work, adding the device results in symbols not found |
| 12:28.22 | Matta | and I'm making a uClibc version... |
| 12:28.30 | Matta | CONFIG_INPUT=m |
| 12:28.30 | Matta | CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=m |
| 12:28.30 | Matta | CONFIG_HW_RANDOM=m |
| 12:28.30 | Matta | CONFIG_USB_HID=m |
| 12:28.30 | Matta | CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y |
| 12:28.31 | Matta | CONFIG_USB_KBD=m |
| 12:28.38 | Matta | that's my config I'm trying to create |
| 12:30.42 | Matta | the interesting thing is that none of the above are in the generated kernel / .config |
| 12:31.02 | Matta | so I'm having a hard time believing they all have dependancy issues |
| 12:32.15 | Matta | USB_HID only depends on USB, which I'm quite sure is enabled ;) |
| 12:33.01 | rwhitby | are you sure that ucblibc builds the 2.6.12.2 kernel and uses that defconfig - check the bitbake stderr output to make sure |
| 12:33.18 | Matta | k |
| 12:38.18 | Matta | yup, at one point it installs tmp/work/openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2-r3/defconfig as the .config file... the latter contains my modifications |
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| 12:38.57 | Matta | but I also tried to add them manually to the config file before the compile, bu do_compile apparently reverted back to the old .config |
| 12:42.02 | rwhitby | Matta: I get all of those enabled in my .config except CONFIG_HW_RANDOM |
| 12:42.14 | Matta | interesting |
| 12:42.36 | rwhitby | which Kconfig does HW_RANDOM come from? |
| 12:43.11 | Matta | drivers/char/Kconfig |
| 12:43.36 | Matta | ah, it requires X86 or IA64 |
| 12:45.12 | rwhitby | Matta: I'll check in my defconfig changes |
| 12:45.30 | Matta | ok |
| 12:46.02 | Matta | does glibc/uClibc affect the kernel & modules? |
| 12:46.16 | rwhitby | with the new autobuild running, the glibc modules should hit the feeds within the hour |
| 12:46.21 | rwhitby | dunno |
| 12:46.29 | rwhitby | why are you using uclibc anyway? |
| 12:46.58 | Matta | I have almost 2 Mb free space on the flash now, instead of 500k using glibc |
| 12:47.14 | Matta | I'm trying to run this thing w/o external storage |
| 12:47.33 | rwhitby | are the rest of your apps going to fit in that? |
| 12:47.58 | Matta | 2 Mb should be no problem, 500k would be tricky since I'd like to have libssl available |
| 12:48.46 | rwhitby | ok, just realise that only jbowler can currently help you with uclibc openslug issues, cause I'm not aware of anyone else running ucslugc |
| 12:49.46 | Matta | k, I'll have to reconsider whether I want uclibc or not |
| 12:49.59 | Matta | so the new kernel mods will enter the feeds? |
| 12:50.31 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r3471c6c7... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig): Added INPUT_EVDEV and USB_KBD modules to OpenSlug kernel |
| 12:50.45 | Matta | k =) |
| 12:51.25 | Matta | will try again tomorrow... |
| 12:51.35 | Matta | thanks for your help! l8r |
| 12:51.50 | rwhitby | the feeds are updated automatically now, and the new kernel and modules will be there in about 15 minutes or less |
| 12:51.59 | Matta | oh, nice |
| 12:53.21 | Matta | well, unfotunately I have to go anyway but I'll see if I can check it out later tonight |
| 12:53.24 | Matta | cya |
| 13:07.37 | rwhitby | Feeds are updated. |
| 13:08.05 | rwhitby | 17 minutes from checkin to feeds updated. |
| 13:08.22 | rwhitby | all automatic :-) |
| 13:08.59 | NAiL | brilliant |
| 13:09.01 | NAiL | great work :) |
| 13:09.06 | NAiL | ~hail rwhitby |
| 13:09.06 | jbot | ACTION bows down to rwhitby and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:09.45 | rwhitby | ~hail dyoung |
| 13:09.45 | jbot | ACTION bows down to dyoung and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:20.33 | rwhitby | ok smart people: I need a way of determining whether "make autobuild" is still running, and the means of detecting that cannot leave lock files around if the make has an error. |
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| 13:21.03 | rwhitby | I'm thinking something like "ps -ef | grep autobuild | grep -v grep" in an if statement |
| 13:21.13 | rwhitby | but can't get the syntax right |
| 13:21.22 | NAiL | hmm? |
| 13:21.41 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.41 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.41 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.48 | rwhitby | something like that (but that one doesn't work) |
| 13:21.59 | NAiL | no, because that one will see the grep |
| 13:22.28 | rwhitby | the if statement has to not execute the body if it sees autobuild in the process list |
| 13:23.10 | rwhitby | NAiL: I can get the grep right - it's the if statement syntax and grep exit status detection which is stumping me |
| 13:23.16 | NAiL | hmm |
| 13:23.19 | NAiL | works on my end |
| 13:23.32 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.32 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.32 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.46 | NAiL | if ps -ef | grep "lpd2"| grep -v grep >& /dev/null ; then echo "detected" ; fi |
| 13:23.49 | rwhitby | for what values of "works" ? |
| 13:24.00 | NAiL | if lpd2 is running, it echoes detected, if not it doesn't |
| 13:24.10 | rwhitby | I can get it to run the body easily. I can't get it to *not* run the body |
| 13:24.25 | NAiL | strange |
| 13:24.35 | NAiL | well. |
| 13:24.36 | rwhitby | let me try again |
| 13:24.47 | NAiL | first of all, swap grep -v grep and grep autobuild |
| 13:24.55 | NAiL | you want the status of that last grep |
| 13:25.36 | rwhitby | nope, still runs twice |
| 13:26.16 | dyoung | rwhitby didi you get it? |
| 13:26.31 | dyoung | ah okay |
| 13:26.41 | rwhitby | get what? |
| 13:26.49 | dyoung | your greeping |
| 13:26.55 | rwhitby | not yet |
| 13:26.58 | dyoung | I've been using pidof.. |
| 13:27.08 | dyoung | or ps -ef | grep... |
| 13:27.25 | NAiL | hmm |
| 13:27.58 | dyoung | if [ `pidof`.... |
| 13:27.58 | [cc]smart | i'm irritated: ERROR: Nothing provides cyrus-imapd |
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| 13:29.40 | rwhitby | pidof autobuild doesn't work, cause autobuild is the makefile target, not the executable |
| 13:30.37 | dyoung | if ["`ps -ef | grep autobuild | grep -v grep | cut -c10-15`" == "" ] ; then |
| 13:30.40 | dyoung | or somethinjg like that. |
| 13:31.18 | dyoung | I just made it work for slugbot last night, check dyoung@nudi:bin |
| 13:32.58 | ppierre | hello, sorry nobody answer on general : md5 of Unslung-5.5-beta-firmware.zip is ok ? I didn't get 7e0ec615a9f8fc614aae65ac484a93d8 as on web page |
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| 13:52.05 | [cc]smart | NAiL: you have a hint for me why cyrus-imapd might be invisible ? |
| 13:52.22 | NAiL | [cc]smart: it's not in openslug-packages, I guess |
| 13:52.42 | NAiL | not quite sure how all that "no more oe-symlinks" stuff works |
| 13:53.04 | [cc]smart | no more oe-symlinks ? meaning the method has changed ? |
| 13:54.01 | [cc]smart | so i can dump the dir ? |
| 13:54.03 | dyoung | [cc]smart, bitbake -b cyrus-imapd |
| 13:54.33 | dyoung | that will add it to the list, which iirc is a filein your conf dir |
| 13:54.50 | dyoung | openslug-bbpackages.conf or something like that. |
| 13:54.59 | rwhitby | bitbake -b packages/cyrus-imapd/xxxxxxx.bb |
| 13:55.03 | rwhitby | then bitbake freeze |
| 13:55.09 | dyoung | yeah, that. ;-) |
| 13:55.09 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r7119e7e6... 10/Makefile: More merging in publish-openembedded, and updated autobuild (to be called from cron) |
| 13:55.27 | rwhitby | or just edit conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf and packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb directly |
| 13:55.44 | rwhitby | or run bb unfreeze and then bb cyrus-imapd |
| 13:55.56 | dyoung | doesnt the one in conf take precedence though? |
| 13:56.00 | NAiL | . |
| 13:56.04 | NAiL | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.09 | NAiL | I need a wireless keyboard |
| 13:56.09 | [cc]smart | me sayin |
| 13:56.45 | rwhitby | dyoung: one sets BBFILES, the other sets what gets built automatically from that BBFILES |
| 13:57.04 | rwhitby | and bb unfreeze unsets the restriction on BBFILES |
| 13:57.07 | [cc]smart | so which mthod am i actually meant to use if i'm preparing the package for endusers slowly |
| 13:57.37 | rwhitby | whichever method you like :-) |
| 13:57.53 | [cc]smart | i like none of them. i liked the one before. |
| 13:58.05 | [cc]smart | which doesn't mean i'd vote for returning |
| 13:58.08 | [cc]smart | just for advice |
| 13:58.12 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: I bet you didn't like it when svn.berlios.de was down ... |
| 13:58.14 | dyoung | you like dealing with berlios going down every other weekend? |
| 13:59.04 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: the only difference now is that you add a line to openslug-packages.conf instead of adding a symlink in oe-symlinks. no big deal. |
| 13:59.08 | [cc]smart | a) as said, i'm not in any of these really. i just would like clean advice from those who are in the know. b) i'm not sure if berlios is the only possibility the get oe-symlinks out there |
| 13:59.28 | [cc]smart | rwhitby:, so i should add it in this file |
| 13:59.29 | dyoung | [cc]smart: since youre a hardcore dev, why even bother using the symlinks? |
| 13:59.39 | [cc]smart | me hardcore dev ? |
| 13:59.41 | [cc]smart | now way .) |
| 14:00.07 | rwhitby | anyone who builds something which is not already in openslug-packages is a hardcore dev :-) |
| 14:00.16 | [cc]smart | i'm on frontend rather. like refining distro related thingd |
| 14:00.40 | [cc]smart | configfiles etc. |
| 14:00.56 | [cc]smart | no clue about bitbake stuff really |
| 14:01.07 | rwhitby | that makes five of us ... |
| 14:01.25 | dyoung | [cc]smart: if the package works, feel free to add it to openslug-packages.foo |
| 14:02.15 | [cc]smart | the package compiles, but it's not really ready yet, since you would have to add a lot of stuff manually which is no option for typical users. |
| 14:02.36 | [cc]smart | but i think since it's the dev repository i can dare that |
| 14:02.56 | [cc]smart | so i'll go openslug-packages. it's in meta, right ? |
| 14:03.00 | rwhitby | yep |
| 14:03.08 | [cc]smart | thx |
| 14:03.10 | dyoung | Okay, then the fast way for you is to bitbake -b it |
| 14:03.23 | rwhitby | if it goes in there, then you need to add it to the .conf too |
| 14:03.38 | [cc]smart | once i sync, the openslug-packages change is ready |
| 14:03.53 | rwhitby | (just like you had to add a symlink before) |
| 14:04.06 | dyoung | ay yes, since this is unstable feed, endusers should expect it to be.. well.. unstable. ;-) |
| 14:04.26 | rwhitby | in fact, we should ensure that it is unstable |
| 14:05.25 | [cc]smart | now that i look at this file... thougt i had added cyrus stuff there before.... |
| 14:05.51 | dyoung | ppierre: we're not ignoring you, we know about the md5 being incorrect; just noone has dealt with the issue yet. |
| 14:06.05 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r5a8e09b9... 10/packages/at76c503a/ (at76c503a-modules/makefile.cc.patch at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb): Fix at76c503a crosscompile. Thanks to wrichter |
| 14:07.56 | [cc]smart | hmm... so what should this look like now : BBFILES := "${OEROOT}/oe-symlinks/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 14:08.17 | [cc]smart | local.conf that is |
| 14:08.21 | rwhitby | check the template. |
| 14:08.37 | [cc]smart | i can just use that ? amending for my environment for sure. |
| 14:16.00 | rwhitby | the openslug-packages.conf file overrides your local.conf BBFILES now |
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| 14:20.01 | rwhitby | Announcement: "make autobuild" is now run on the official cross build machine every 15 minutes. It will update the feeds at the end of a successful build. |
| 14:20.42 | rwhitby | (make autobuild will be improved in the future so that a failure in, say, openslug, doesn't stop a successfull optware build and feed upload) |
| 14:26.18 | ppierre | ok thanks dyoung |
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| 14:59.42 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * rf40f69c1... 10/Makefile: Fixed the sync-packages_clean script name (should be sync-packages-clean) |
| 15:10.35 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r0ea2fa31... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: On openslug create a package perl-modules depending on the 840+ other packages. |
| 15:36.08 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r51692032... 10/packages/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 15:36.08 | CIA-9 | propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 3e8a1aa38ecbd1a04d0cc182d8d1809d71b51079) |
| 15:36.08 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.50 | geojeff | rwhitby, i've updated the http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FrogLoggingSlug page considerably. The most significant thing found is a USB combo microphone/soundcard doodad for $59. If it performs, it would be an inexpensive solution for the audio recording part. |
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| 15:41.05 | rwhitby | geojeff: nice |
| 15:42.04 | geojeff | i bought a slug on ebay and have it on the way (my first ebay bidding experience) |
| 15:43.06 | rwhitby | how much? |
| 15:44.18 | geojeff | $51 |
| 15:44.39 | geojeff | he said he used it for only 2 hours :) |
| 15:52.25 | jbowler-away | Building openslug: build from scratch will work again now. If you have a from-scratch build from the last few hours, delete the bitbake cache and all the tmp/*/ipkg* directories/files to get it working again. |
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| 16:37.41 | eno-away | i'm always getting: |
| 16:37.42 | eno-away | NOTE: package postfix-2.0.20-r0: task do_package: started |
| 16:37.44 | eno-away | ERROR: function do_install failed |
| 16:37.57 | eno-away | even after i "make update" |
| 16:38.25 | eno-away | is there some cache i need to clean? |
| 16:38.36 | NAiL | bb -cclean postfix should do it |
| 16:38.47 | eno-away | thx |
| 16:38.51 | jbowler-away | That's probably the /usr/lib/libpcre.so bug isn't it? |
| 16:38.58 | jbowler-away | ... or is that something different |
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| 16:49.23 | eno-away | did a "bb -cclean postfix" under openslug/, then tried "make update openslug" at the top, still the same error |
| 16:50.57 | NAiL | ok, what's the actual error? |
| 16:51.00 | jbowler-away | It's a known problem. |
| 16:52.48 | eno-away | ctory |
| 16:52.56 | eno-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.56 | eno-away | ctory |
| 16:53.29 | jbowler-away | LD_LIBRARY_PATH I think. |
| 16:53.39 | eno-away | any work around? |
| 16:53.54 | jbowler-away | I think so, several other people have encountered it. |
| 16:54.31 | malfi | Funny, there is there gpl-source-package for an upcoming linksys device, that isn't even officially annouced. ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/RTP300/1.00.37/rtp300_cyt_1_00_37_gpl.tgz It looks quite promising, as it has fxos for voip... |
| 16:54.42 | jbowler-away | IIRC [g2] encountered it |
| 16:55.54 | jbowler-away | eno-away: try running postconf at the command line, see if you get the same error |
| 16:57.34 | eno-away | yeah, i got the same error invoking /home/slug/openslug/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/postconf on the command line |
| 16:58.17 | jbowler-away | It's something to do with the link command line. |
| 16:59.19 | jbowler-away | Yep, libpcre is there in the staging directory. |
| 16:59.19 | eno-away | something like setting rpath? |
| 17:00.07 | jbowler-away | Ok, you need /usr/lib/libpcre.so installed on your build system - it's a bug in the .bb file, it should be using the one in staging, but it isn't |
| 17:00.17 | jbowler-away | Can you slugbug this? |
| 17:00.37 | eno-away | ok, let me raise a slugbug on this |
| 17:01.29 | jbowler-away | The workround is to install libpcre, but that's a bad work round since libpcre is in staging and that is what the executable should be using. |
| 17:03.01 | jbowler-away | I can't see who the postfix maintainer is, but I know several NSLU2 people were using it... |
| 17:03.17 | eno-away | just apt-get installed libpcre3-devel |
| 17:04.52 | eno-away | jbowler-away, file the bug against "openslug fw" or "openslug packages"? |
| 17:05.44 | Matta | installing libpcre3-devel wasn't enough on my system, as it requires the so.0 file... adding a symlink to .so.3 works however |
| 17:06.12 | eno-away | i just found that, thx Matta |
| 17:06.15 | Matta | just remember to run ldconfig after adding it |
| 17:06.17 | Matta | k |
| 17:06.30 | jbowler-away | eno-away: openslug packages |
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| 17:07.29 | Matta | smart me |
| 17:07.31 | Matta | ;) |
| 17:10.19 | eno-away | "NOTE: package postfix-2.0.20: completed" :-) |
| 17:25.19 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away, eno-away: i'm on postfix stuff |
| 17:25.23 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r652a4835... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: |
| 17:25.23 | CIA-9 | Remove previuos change and create package perl-modules that recommends all the |
| 17:25.23 | CIA-9 | other 859 packages. Unfourtanly also recommends 86 packages packages that |
| 17:25.23 | CIA-9 | doesn't get created, so some warning messages gets displayed on ipkg install. |
| 17:29.55 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: my theory was that it's just a matter of setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH somewhere. I'll assign the bug to you, it's 227 |
| 17:31.48 | [cc]smart | wait a sec, i'll read it first so i know if i'm able to do sth. about it |
| 17:35.13 | [cc]smart | hmm. i think i understand it, but i've got no real clue about how bitbake works and gave up frustrated about missing documentation more than once, so that i'm in the state of "don't bother me on bitbake". so i don't really feel inclined about htis one. i'm more on issues about how the distro operates than on how the build system operates. |
| 17:36.33 | [cc]smart | see, i don't even get this somple one resolved, gettin me the creeps: ERROR: Nothing provides cyrus-imapd |
| 17:36.59 | [cc]smart | i' ve been bitbaking this all the time, now what gives ? |
| 17:38.12 | [cc]smart | lost so much time about this stupid thing now. |
| 17:42.54 | eno-away | [cc]smart, as optware developer, i agree with you that the openembedded+bitbake thing seems quite complicated, but OTOH, it's a way of sharing packages with other distributions |
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| 17:46.14 | [cc]smart | i've got nothing against OE/bitbake, to the contrary, i think it's quite good. just that i've never seen sufficient docu to make it worthwhile for me to look into it. |
| 17:46.43 | [cc]smart | got no time to scan source to answer questions. |
| 17:47.40 | NAiL | I find it brilliant. But docs are indeed lacking. |
| 17:47.48 | [cc]smart | right now e.g. i would like to know why i can't make bitbake find cyrus-sasl and cyrus-imapd anymore |
| 17:47.58 | [cc]smart | which it always did |
| 17:51.16 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r5f2c5f5b... 10/packages/base-files/ (base-files/profile base-files_3.0.14.bb): Make /etc/profile use TZ variable if /etc/localtime not present. link in comments explain usage. Bump base-files rev. |
| 17:53.06 | perlguru | i have reboot problems again..... |
| 17:53.13 | perlguru | might this be a clue? |
| 17:53.15 | [cc]smart | dammit... somebody tell me what it takes to make bitbake find cyrus again |
| 17:53.17 | perlguru | # ls -l /share/hdd/data/etc/rc.d |
| 17:53.17 | perlguru | ---------- 1 root root 0 Jul 30 18:55 /share/hdd/data/etc/rc.d |
| 17:53.28 | NAiL | [cc]smart: gimme a sec or 200 |
| 17:53.34 | [cc]smart | i added it to meta/openslug-packages |
| 17:54.05 | jbowler-away | Try bb freeze |
| 17:54.24 | jbowler-away | Or add it into conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf explicitly |
| 17:55.19 | [cc]smart | then, what's meta/openslug-packages ? |
| 17:55.49 | jbowler-away | The list of packages you want built. |
| 17:55.55 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r249b4cfe... 10/packages/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 17:55.55 | CIA-9 | propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 72702dc0f20d493c1f7ba7870f55f950538bb364) |
| 17:55.55 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.13 | [cc]smart | er, then we have this 2 times ? |
| 17:56.37 | NAiL | openslug-packages.conf specify which .bb's are scanned at all |
| 17:56.38 | [cc]smart | like first you add it to meta then you move that to conf/distro by bb freeze ? |
| 17:56.38 | jbowler-away | No, openslug-packages.conf is the list of package directories. |
| 17:56.50 | NAiL | meta/openslug-packages specify which packages are actually built |
| 17:56.53 | [cc]smart | NAiL: we've got two files of this name as i see now |
| 17:57.28 | jbowler-away | openslug-packages.conf is a file containing the same information as the directory oe-symlinks (which is no longer used). |
| 17:57.35 | [cc]smart | ah one is bb th eother is conf |
| 17:58.04 | [cc]smart | so i should never have put it to .bb only to .conf |
| 17:58.28 | jbowler-away | It will disappear if you only put it in the .conf |
| 17:58.36 | NAiL | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0166/0191) [86 %]ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/repvik/unstable/glibc/openslug/openembedded/packages/rsync/rsync_2.6.4.bb' while parsing /home/repvik/unstable/glibc/openslug/openembedded/packages/rsync/rsync_2.6.4.bb <-- huh? |
| 17:59.15 | [cc]smart | so bb freeze reads meta/.bb and creates .conf ? |
| 17:59.24 | jbowler-away | NAiL: It's in your cache - clean the bitbake cache |
| 17:59.40 | NAiL | jbowler-away: uh, ok? How? |
| 17:59.58 | NAiL | jbowler-away: Is there any docs at all describing this fancy new way of handling bbfiles? |
| 18:00.08 | jbowler-away | Presumably someone removed rsync_2.6.4.bb |
| 18:00.20 | jbowler-away | NAiL: no |
| 18:00.24 | NAiL | yeah, two upstream upgrades in a rather short time, so I'm not surprised |
| 18:01.09 | NAiL | how do I clear the cache? |
| 18:01.23 | jbowler-away | rm -rf ${TMPDIR}/cache |
| 18:01.27 | NAiL | aha |
| 18:01.35 | jbowler-away | BTW: that error message is harmless |
| 18:01.58 | NAiL | yeah, just wondering |
| 18:02.07 | jbowler-away | I.e. it won't stop anything which can be built from building. |
| 18:02.30 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: read packages/freeze/freeze.bb |
| 18:04.13 | [cc]smart | so hoiw should this help bitbake find cyrus when i wasn't able to built it ? |
| 18:06.23 | jbowler-away | I don't know. |
| 18:06.30 | [cc]smart | now, does openslug-packages.conf override local.conf ? |
| 18:06.49 | jbowler-away | Yes - see the include order at the bottom of bitbake.conf |
| 18:07.01 | [cc]smart | er, well THIS i would call a bug |
| 18:07.49 | jbowler-away | You have no choice now but to use the oe-symlinks |
| 18:08.03 | [cc]smart | oe-symlinks ? i was told this is gone |
| 18:08.23 | jbowler-away | openslug-packages.conf replaces it - but, unlike before, you have to use it. |
| 18:08.30 | [cc]smart | and since it didn't seem to have any effect i removed them |
| 18:08.58 | jbowler-away | Ah well, then just do bb unfreeze. |
| 18:09.26 | jbowler-away | If you don't care about the time to parse 2500 bb files it's easy. |
| 18:11.15 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rff41830a... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added nano |
| 18:11.41 | [cc]smart | ok, i'm getting closer to understand what's going on here... a) why is my config frozen right now ? i didn't fo it. b) overriding local.conf IS a bug., since local.conf is what one uses to customize on the front. if i get this right, freeze should wirte into local.conf, not into openembedded. |
| 18:11.45 | [cc]smart | am i getting closer ? |
| 18:15.19 | jbowler-away | It's a chicken and egg problem - local.conf can't override DISTRO.conf because it defines DISTRO. |
| 18:15.59 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rebeee292... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Added nano and cyrus-imapd |
| 18:16.25 | jbowler-away | As a matter of policy we want "OpenSlug" to be strictly the result of building openslug.conf/nslu2.conf/local.conf.template |
| 18:16.34 | [cc]smart | in any case, it's not ok when one defines BBFILES on the front end configuration that beck end overrides it. |
| 18:16.41 | [cc]smart | s/beck/back/ |
| 18:16.44 | jbowler-away | The problem is that this pre-empts the user use of local.conf |
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| 18:17.29 | jbowler-away | The BBFILES overide is annoying, but I couldn't find another way of doing it. Anyway, this stuff is only half done. |
| 18:17.52 | [cc]smart | then a possibility might be to add a new configfile next to local.conf which only lists these |
| 18:17.52 | jbowler-away | I think I will probably add in something like OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES. |
| 18:18.20 | [cc]smart | that is maybe moving out openslug-packages conf into oeroot/conf |
| 18:18.25 | jbowler-away | MACHINE/DISTRO should be in auto.conf. The path names (including BBFILES) should be in site.conf |
| 18:18.35 | jbowler-away | But the path names depend on the *distro*! Oops. |
| 18:19.20 | jbowler-away | In the OE view of the world (as I understand it) BBFILES is just a global - all the BBFILES available on the system - but we've moved from that because of the parse time issues. |
| 18:19.22 | [cc]smart | move openslug-packages.conf out of openembedded/conf into oeroot/conf and remove BBFILES from local.conf |
| 18:19.56 | jbowler-away | ? openslug-packages.conf has to be source controlled - like oe-symlinks |
| 18:20.13 | [cc]smart | what ? |
| 18:20.37 | [cc]smart | then why should it be overwritten when i apply changes to it ? |
| 18:20.37 | jbowler-away | The list of bbfiles has to be under source control. |
| 18:21.05 | jbowler-away | It isn't if you make the changes in the correct way. |
| 18:21.45 | jbowler-away | But if you do that, you can't include updates from the souce controlled list. Another problem... |
| 18:22.23 | jbowler-away | BTW python in .conf files, executed at the time the conf files are read, does not work. Yet another problem... |
| 18:23.05 | [cc]smart | so openslug-packages.conf is the distro default, correct ? |
| 18:23.30 | jbowler-away | What we have at present is semi-broken. In particular it is simply unworkable to have configuration information in local.conf when that configuration information may need to be changed from the source tree. |
| 18:24.15 | jbowler-away | So I started to try to work out how to fix that - it's fairly obvious - but I hit a brick wall, not because it can't be done, but because I can't motivate myself to do it. |
| 18:25.03 | jbowler-away | Since I want ucslugc.conf to work, and that's a whole lot of work (a new distro), I don't think I'll end up doing anything on the master makefile stuff for a while. |
| 18:25.23 | [cc]smart | i'm cluerupted |
| 18:25.57 | [cc]smart | but what seems to be realtively easy to me is separating local.conf in sth. like core.conf and distro.conf |
| 18:26.26 | [cc]smart | core.conf containing things like MACHINE and DISTRO |
| 18:26.26 | jbowler-away | Correct. |
| 18:26.33 | jbowler-away | Well, no - that's auto.conf |
| 18:26.37 | [cc]smart | and distro.conf containg e.g. BBFILES |
| 18:27.09 | [cc]smart | so that chicken and egg are eaten by hawk |
| 18:27.14 | jbowler-away | The stuff in local.conf (i.e. the one generated from the local.conf.template by the master makefile) needs to be moved to three places - auto.conf, site.conf and openslug.conf |
| 18:27.25 | jbowler-away | local.conf should not exist. |
| 18:27.56 | [cc]smart | and all these three are frontend configfiles.... |
| 18:27.57 | [cc]smart | ? |
| 18:28.08 | jbowler-away | See bitbake.conf |
| 18:28.10 | [cc]smart | so user configs |
| 18:28.21 | [cc]smart | taking a bit time... |
| 18:28.40 | jbowler-away | Now, auto.conf could define BBFILES, then local.conf could add/hack it. |
| 18:29.15 | jbowler-away | Hum. Ok - this is why my brain started to turn to jelly. Getting it right is pretty difficult. |
| 18:29.20 | [cc]smart | i thought conf/openslug-packages.conf would be the deafult for openslug.... |
| 18:29.39 | jbowler-away | Well, look at openslug.conf |
| 18:30.19 | jbowler-away | What matters is where 'freeze.conf' gets included. It has to be in a file generated by the build system (either source controlled or from the makefile). |
| 18:30.33 | perlguru | jp30, if you read this log, read my comments in bug #224, your suggestion seems to work for me ;) |
| 18:30.40 | landslide | if i wanted to compile apex... is there somewhere i should put the source? |
| 18:30.44 | landslide | an environment that needs to be setup? |
| 18:31.05 | landslide | i have completed build-openslug with my master makefile. |
| 18:31.12 | NAiL | landslide: iirc, there's a "howto" of somesort on the wiki |
| 18:31.17 | jbowler-away | auto.conf is fine I think - simply MACHINE="nslu2" DISTRO="openslug" include conf/distro/freeze.conf |
| 18:31.48 | landslide | ok. |
| 18:32.20 | jbowler-away | Well, ok, I might try this some time, but it's unrewarding work (cause people just whine about the result). |
| 18:32.59 | landslide | nail: i've read it but they use crosstool. i was wondering if it was possible to setup and 'environment' from the master makefile. |
| 18:33.29 | NAiL | landslide: aha. I think that is possible. Don't know how to though. beewoolie and [g2] are the apex guys |
| 18:33.34 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away: if i get this righzt, freeze.conf should not exist as a separate thing. freeze should be a tool that modifies a frontend user configuration file. |
| 18:33.45 | NAiL | landslide: but they're not here at the moment |
| 18:33.58 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: I don't think so |
| 18:34.10 | [cc]smart | and auto.conf should be renamed, since the name is meaningless. |
| 18:34.13 | jbowler-away | Well, the first part - the second is the way it is at present. |
| 18:34.39 | [cc]smart | or maybe not |
| 18:34.42 | [cc]smart | will have to read it first |
| 18:34.42 | malfi | landslide: there is a target setup-apex in this mastermakefile, but dunno if it works |
| 18:35.20 | jbowler-away | auto seems fine to me. I believe they meant it as 'automatically configure for different builds'. |
| 18:35.22 | [cc]smart | Q: in bitbake.conf it's always conf/sth. how to tell which conf dir this is, in OEROOT or in openembedded ? |
| 18:35.32 | jbowler-away | BBPATH |
| 18:36.11 | [cc]smart | e.g. it says: include conf/distro/${DISTRO}.conf |
| 18:36.16 | [cc]smart | which is in openembedded dir |
| 18:36.27 | [cc]smart | and it says: include conf/local.conf |
| 18:36.32 | [cc]smart | which is in OEROOT |
| 18:37.44 | jbowler-away | and both are on BBPATH |
| 18:38.10 | jbowler-away | (It's a search path, hence the name) |
| 18:38.10 | [cc]smart | in any case, i don't see a way to override DISTRO.conf since it's preety much the last |
| 18:38.34 | jbowler-away | That's the conclusion I reached. |
| 18:38.39 | [cc]smart | so how is this again that i would be able to make cyrus come back ? |
| 18:38.47 | [cc]smart | i don't see a way |
| 18:39.08 | jbowler-away | Do any of the things I said above. |
| 18:39.37 | jbowler-away | (Well, I'm unclear as to what the problem is - I was assuming it's file-not-found) |
| 18:40.16 | [cc]smart | freeze won't fo it |
| 18:40.29 | [cc]smart | since cyrus isn't baked yet |
| 18:40.57 | [cc]smart | oe-symlinks afaik are out already. i had them and there where the cyrus packages linked. didn't do anythig |
| 18:41.03 | [cc]smart | so what's left ? |
| 18:41.30 | [cc]smart | adding to openslug-packages.conf only i guess |
| 18:42.02 | jbowler-away | I don't know - I don't understand what the problem is. |
| 18:42.21 | [cc]smart | hmm.. can you bitbake cyrus-imapd on your copy ? |
| 18:42.47 | [cc]smart | for me the problem seems clear though |
| 18:42.58 | jbowler-away | I can't do anything because ipkg* were all broken so I don't have a build. |
| 18:43.29 | [cc]smart | the last deifnition for BBFILES is in openslug-packages.conf and it overrides all before |
| 18:43.54 | [cc]smart | so now cyrus anymore wherever you might have included it |
| 18:44.09 | [cc]smart | ha |
| 18:44.27 | [cc]smart | so there's maybe a simple improvement possible |
| 18:44.59 | jbowler-away | Yes, for me bb cyrus-imapd builds openssl (first) |
| 18:45.14 | jbowler-away | ... because I've only build openslug-image so far today |
| 18:45.31 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: what is the problem? |
| 18:45.33 | [cc]smart | modifyinf openmbedded/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf (and the others) replacing BBFILES := with BBFILES += |
| 18:45.36 | NAiL | NOTE: package cyrus-imapd-2.2.12: started |
| 18:46.33 | jbowler-away | On a system after a bb unfreeze? |
| 18:46.43 | [cc]smart | for me, and i recently updated my working copy i get: ERROR: Nothing provides cyrus-imapd |
| 18:46.57 | [cc]smart | all the day |
| 18:46.58 | NAiL | [cc]smart: wait five mins, do make update, retry. |
| 18:47.09 | [cc]smart | whatever i try |
| 18:47.10 | NAiL | NOTE: package cyrus-imapd-2.2.12: completed |
| 18:47.22 | jbowler-away | Ah, ok - you added it to openslug-packages.bb... |
| 18:47.30 | [cc]smart | and removed it again |
| 18:47.37 | [cc]smart | tried all kind of things |
| 18:47.45 | jbowler-away | No, NAiL added it. |
| 18:47.56 | NAiL | yes |
| 18:48.02 | NAiL | missed cyrus-sasl though |
| 18:48.06 | NAiL | Added that just now ;-) |
| 18:48.06 | [cc]smart | i did this alread too but it means nothing |
| 18:48.48 | jbowler-away | NAiL: bb freeze will generate the correct openslug-packages.conf, then copy it over conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf and do an mt diff to make sure no cruft gets included. |
| 18:49.02 | [cc]smart | and i bet if i add to openslug-packages.conf it will do it. |
| 18:49.34 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: either use bb unfreeze or use the -b argument to bitbake or edit openslug-packages.conf or create your own. |
| 18:49.39 | NAiL | [cc]smart: "make update" |
| 18:49.48 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away: if i underestood correctly, this will ONLY be a good idea if NAiL bwas bitbaking all openslug-packages before |
| 18:49.48 | NAiL | then bb cyrus-imapd. |
| 18:50.21 | [cc]smart | i do not bake openslug-packages. this will be WAY more timeconsuming than parsing all bb files for what i need |
| 18:51.04 | jbowler-away | Then you want option 4 |
| 18:51.17 | [cc]smart | option 4 ? |
| 18:51.29 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rabe78818... 10/conf/distro/ (openslug-packages.conf openslug.conf): Added cyrus-sasl, needed for cyrus-imapd |
| 18:51.31 | jbowler-away | the fourth option I gave |
| 18:51.46 | NAiL | *argh* |
| 18:51.54 | NAiL | bad commit |
| 18:52.18 | jbowler-away | The openslug.conf? |
| 18:52.36 | NAiL | yes |
| 18:52.41 | NAiL | just feed stuff |
| 18:52.52 | NAiL | two #'s in the wrong place :P |
| 18:53.22 | jbowler-away | How do you (NAiL) feel about all those ?= assignments in openslug.conf becoming = ? |
| 18:53.23 | [cc]smart | sorry, didn't count the options, would oyu mind naming it instead of numbering ? |
| 18:53.34 | jbowler-away | I.e. remove the ability to hack the openslug firmware image. |
| 18:54.15 | NAiL | jbowler-away: I care incredibly little about changing the firmware image itself |
| 18:54.22 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: (1) bb unfreeze (2) use the -b argument to bitbake (3) edit openslug-packages.conf (4) create your own [openslug-packages.conf] |
| 18:54.26 | NAiL | actually, I haven't even tried |
| 18:54.35 | NAiL | oh, yes, I have... udev. |
| 18:54.49 | jbowler-away | Yes - but udev is something which would probably be checked in. |
| 18:55.00 | jbowler-away | I.e. you would be happy to directly hack on openslug.conf (I think) |
| 18:55.01 | [cc]smart | i will try 5) soonish (once update completed) |
| 18:55.09 | NAiL | sooner or later yes. But I really don't care much about not being able to hack the firmware image without hassle |
| 18:55.15 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: what is (5) |
| 18:55.30 | NAiL | (5) is just "bb cyrus-imapd" :-P |
| 18:55.37 | jbowler-away | :) |
| 18:55.45 | [cc]smart | 5) consits of hacking openslug-packages.conf to go replacing BBFILES := with BBFILES += |
| 18:55.49 | NAiL | aha |
| 18:55.59 | [cc]smart | and emptying local.conf BBFILES definition to "" |
| 18:56.01 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: just so long as you never check the result in. |
| 18:56.08 | [cc]smart | no, wont |
| 18:56.24 | [cc]smart | but if it works, i would say this is a good solution to go with |
| 18:56.35 | jbowler-away | It doesn't work. |
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| 18:58.10 | NAiL | [cc]smart: with the current repo, cyrus-imapd builds just fine on my end |
| 18:58.25 | NAiL | (with the changes i checked in a while back) |
| 18:58.47 | [cc]smart | NAiL: yes, just saw that your update adds the two to openslug-packages.conf, but this is cheating about the issue we discuss :) |
| 18:59.22 | jbowler-away | cheating? |
| 19:00.09 | NAiL | [cc]smart: look. Do "bb -b ../openembedded/packages/<whatever>/<whatever>_<version>.bb, wait until completes, then bb freeze" |
| 19:00.26 | NAiL | s/,/",/ |
| 19:00.29 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * ra06f8ca7... 10/conf/distro/openslug.conf: Set the feeds correctly again |
| 19:00.31 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r42d68bf4... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added cyrus-imapd back to packages |
| 19:00.32 | [cc]smart | yes, since what we discuss is how to go about deviating from the default given by "official" feed |
| 19:00.42 | [cc]smart | this is what you normally do with local.conf |
| 19:00.49 | [cc]smart | frontend configuration |
| 19:01.07 | jbowler-away | If you are making a package for the official feed the correct and only way to do it is option (3) - edit the checked in openslug-packages.conf |
| 19:01.23 | [cc]smart | yes, that's true |
| 19:01.39 | [cc]smart | and when i'm working on sth. for myself only ? |
| 19:01.55 | jbowler-away | It's like with oe-symlinks, except now any package developer with write access can update the 'symlinks', therefore now every package developer is expected to do it! |
| 19:02.32 | NAiL | ah, finally |
| 19:02.36 | [cc]smart | with oe-symlinks i was able to add sth. for myself without the risk to - overwrite it with next update- or unintentionally influence others |
| 19:03.43 | jbowler-away | If you are doing private packages then you can use any of the other three options, depending on how much you want to track the core changes. |
| 19:03.51 | NAiL | [cc]smart: you still are, as long as you don't check in the change... |
| 19:04.21 | NAiL | if you accidentally do, you can revert the commit |
| 19:04.34 | jbowler-away | Well, option (4) (which is actually equivalent to option (1) or (2) followed by bb freeze) avoids that accident. |
| 19:05.11 | jbowler-away | In fact the same accident could occur with oe-symlinks (very easily) |
| 19:05.21 | [cc]smart | bb freeze fixes me on what i have, and i don't want to each time i want to change/add a single thing go freeze and unfreeze |
| 19:05.48 | [cc]smart | if i didn't bake all openslug-packages before i freeze i make all "official" invisible |
| 19:05.50 | jbowler-away | Empty the openslug-bbfiles.conf file |
| 19:06.13 | [cc]smart | lemme test 5 first |
| 19:07.04 | jbowler-away | (5) works, so do writing your own openslug.conf or deleting the include conf/distro/freeze.conf from it and so on. |
| 19:07.29 | jbowler-away | All of these possibilities have the big problem that they don't work for other people. |
| 19:07.41 | NAiL | *neat* |
| 19:07.45 | NAiL | nano is already if the feed |
| 19:08.03 | NAiL | I am very impressed :D |
| 19:08.35 | DaKa2 | NAiL: could you remove perl from the native feed? we have a working crossbuilt one now :-) |
| 19:08.42 | NAiL | DaKa2: but of course :D |
| 19:08.56 | jbowler-away | :) |
| 19:09.22 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away: i would say 5) is perfect |
| 19:10.02 | NAiL | this is so good |
| 19:10.03 | [cc]smart | so i want to officially ( so to say ) suggest modfying all conf/distro${DISTRO}.conf files to say BBFILES += instead of BBFILES := |
| 19:10.27 | [cc]smart | and change the commentary in local.conf for BBFILES to say sth. like: |
| 19:10.42 | [cc]smart | setiing BBFILES := "" means go with distro default |
| 19:10.42 | NAiL | DaKa2: done |
| 19:10.56 | NAiL | DaKa2: how is the native feed pushed? |
| 19:11.03 | [cc]smart | and setting BBFILES to anything else means adding to the distro default |
| 19:11.19 | NAiL | DaKa2: cudos on getting it to work properly btw |
| 19:11.29 | DaKa2 | NAiL: dunno, we dont have anything building native packages yet |
| 19:11.38 | DaKa2 | :) |
| 19:12.11 | NAiL | duh |
| 19:12.19 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: "change the commentary in local.conf for BBFILES" cannot be done |
| 19:12.26 | NAiL | as in ... *completely* |
| 19:12.43 | [cc]smart | er loca.conf.template certainly |
| 19:12.55 | jbowler-away | Doesn't work. |
| 19:13.13 | [cc]smart | for me i have now in local.conf: BBFILES := "${OEROOT}/openembedded/packages/cyrus*/*.bb" |
| 19:13.22 | [cc]smart | which does exactly what i had expected |
| 19:13.41 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away: where does the tempate come from ? |
| 19:13.55 | jbowler-away | Ok, so you don't have a problem. No one else has a problem. There is no problem. |
| 19:14.04 | [cc]smart | SURE there is a problkem |
| 19:14.12 | jbowler-away | You still have a problem? |
| 19:14.15 | [cc]smart | beacause this will happen again right after an update |
| 19:14.34 | [cc]smart | and NOBODY is able to make a sensible configuration with BBFILES in local.conf |
| 19:14.34 | jbowler-away | I suggest you use one of the four options I gave. |
| 19:15.06 | [cc]smart | for each of them i showed the flaw and i do not see what disadvantage my suggestion would have |
| 19:15.14 | jbowler-away | The BBFILES in local.conf gets overridden - so it certainly isn't a problem. |
| 19:15.29 | [cc]smart | the fact that it gets overridden is exactly the problem |
| 19:15.36 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r5fbbe1c7... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove perl from the feed since it doesn't work, and there's a working version in the native feed |
| 19:15.39 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rf0e0882a... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: disapproval of revision 5fbbe1c75e9bf5533a85c833ed875f3ceb27e7be |
| 19:15.50 | jbowler-away | Your suggestion doesn't work - you admitted it - "er loca.conf.template certainly" |
| 19:15.59 | DaKa2 | lol, nail missread very much :-) |
| 19:16.03 | NAiL | yes ;-) |
| 19:16.09 | NAiL | native feed now empty :-P |
| 19:16.13 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away: well wherever the documentation for this variable is |
| 19:16.16 | DaKa2 | great |
| 19:16.19 | [cc]smart | this would have to get updated |
| 19:16.44 | jbowler-away | What's the point of updating the documentation exactly? It doesn't alter what happens. |
| 19:17.17 | [cc]smart | the suggested change would alter the behaviour of the variable, thusly, the documentation would have to get updated |
| 19:17.40 | jbowler-away | Like I said, you haven't suggested a change to the definition of that variable (BBFILES in local.conf) |
| 19:17.44 | [cc]smart | these two, altering the behaviour and updateing the docu is the suggested change |
| 19:17.54 | [cc]smart | sure i did |
| 19:17.57 | [cc]smart | i repeat: |
| 19:18.18 | [cc]smart | so i want to officially ( so to say ) suggest modfying all conf/distro${DISTRO}.conf files to say BBFILES += instead of BBFILES := |
| 19:18.38 | [cc]smart | and change the commentary in local.conf for BBFILES to say sth. like: |
| 19:18.53 | [cc]smart | setting BBFILES := "" means go with distro default |
| 19:19.03 | [cc]smart | and setting BBFILES to anything else means adding to the distro default |
| 19:19.27 | [cc]smart | if it's not the commentary in the file, it is changing the deocu wherever it is |
| 19:20.03 | NAiL | DaKa2: So I take it, bug 182 is now fixed? |
| 19:20.04 | NAiL | http://slugbug.nslu2-linux.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=182&pos=3 |
| 19:20.14 | jbowler-away | So, if someone were to make this change, everyone would end up with the most horrendous mess inside BBFILES, a lot of people would find themselves parsing approximately 700 bbfiles, some would have to parse 2500 bbfiles and no one would understand what is happening with oe-symlinks. |
| 19:20.49 | DaKa2 | NAiL: yes, I didn't even know it had a bug :) |
| 19:20.57 | jbowler-away | (Because oe-symlinks would 'still work' in an existing master makefile tree and not work in a new one). Think of the support mess this would cause. |
| 19:21.20 | NAiL | DaKa2: I think it's related to oe's bug 118 (or thereabouts) |
| 19:21.27 | NAiL | 113 |
| 19:21.31 | NAiL | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113 |
| 19:21.46 | DaKa2 | oh, thats fixed too |
| 19:21.49 | [cc]smart | well, at least i know I did have a horrendous mess all this day long and nobody seems to care about. so why care next time, when the difference is that now, the system is in my opinion broken, and after the change, it is acceptable ( sure we know it's opinion, but i really can name reasons). |
| 19:22.19 | DaKa2 | in the perl 5.8.7 bb that is, the 5.7.4 is still broken |
| 19:22.33 | DaKa2 | or.. maybe.. |
| 19:22.57 | NAiL | DaKa2: write that. Is there any reason to use .7.4 instead of .8.7? |
| 19:22.57 | DaKa2 | forgot about that part of the bug, maybe just fixed that in the armeb version |
| 19:23.15 | DaKa2 | 5.8.4 actually, no not that I know.. |
| 19:23.24 | [cc]smart | and btw, the change woudl NOT increase the nmber of files to parse from what they had originally |
| 19:23.32 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: what is more you are suggesting a change to a checked in conf file, and a series of changes to a checked in script to achieve something which can be achieved with the one line change to openslug.conf which I suggested earlier. |
| 19:23.38 | [cc]smart | since originally it used what was defined in local.conf |
| 19:24.00 | [cc]smart | jbowler-away: youc hange would get trashed with updates |
| 19:24.34 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * raca49b56... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add perl and perl-modules to openslug-native |
| 19:24.36 | [cc]smart | and what you are damnating now for the suggestion is exactly the same thing that was done and got me in mess |
| 19:25.11 | NAiL | DaKa2: Just comment that in the bug and set it to resolved, fixed. If someone really wants to run the old version, they can reopen it. |
| 19:25.38 | DaKa2 | DaKa2: ok, just have to fix that bug in arm too :-) |
| 19:26.55 | jbowler-away | [cc]smart: <jbowler-away> I think I will probably add in something like OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES |
| 19:26.59 | [cc]smart | and lsast but not least i suggested a single (identical) change to some configfiles of one character and not a series of changes |
| 19:27.31 | [cc]smart | OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES ? |
| 19:27.42 | [cc]smart | who said that ? |
| 19:27.46 | jbowler-away | You are adding to BBFILES, the result depends on what an individual user has in local.conf - it may well increase the number of files parsed. |
| 19:28.28 | [cc]smart | what an individual user has in local.conf is meant to be his personal configuration |
| 19:28.36 | [cc]smart | and this should be respected, not overridden |
| 19:28.47 | jbowler-away | Your change is to machine generated files (openslug/conf/openslug-packages.conf openslug/conf/openslug-bbfiles.conf) that requires multiple line changes to openembedded/packages/freeze/... |
| 19:28.56 | [cc]smart | and it will not increase compared to what he had originally, since this was the way it worked |
| 19:29.31 | jbowler-away | I said OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES. You said "<[cc]smart> jbowler-away: youc hange would get trashed with updates" and I'm saying it doesn't. |
| 19:30.07 | [cc]smart | lemme read back, maybe i misread sth.... |
| 19:31.33 | jbowler-away | IMO you are coming up with solutions to your own problems which will just make life difficult for other people.I'm saying the specific problem of developers who need to add packages locally has a simple solution (via OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES). |
| 19:32.09 | jbowler-away | ... and that this solution is consistent with the other OPENSLUG_EXTRA_ variables. |
| 19:32.47 | [cc]smart | couldn't find the OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES meantionned.... |
| 19:33.06 | NAiL | DaKa2: Do you want the honour of closing the bugs? ;-) |
| 19:33.07 | [cc]smart | in any case, BBFILES should then be removed from local.conf |
| 19:33.24 | jbowler-away | You keep saying that, but you don't say how you would do this. |
| 19:33.28 | [cc]smart | since it's definitely irritating if theres a configuration there and it doesnt turn out to mean anything |
| 19:33.44 | DaKa2 | NAiL: hehe, ok :-) my first closed bugs :-) |
| 19:33.58 | NAiL | Yeah, it's fun isn't it? ;D |
| 19:34.02 | jbowler-away | To be irritated by it someone has to notice it, then they can remove it... |
| 19:34.39 | jbowler-away | Quite apart from this, like I said, auto.conf is probably a better place for the 'freeze' - but that has the same problem, local.conf is currently overriding it1 |
| 19:36.39 | [cc]smart | freeze can only be used if you've got the full set baked plus your extras if i got it right, and to create that setup takes more time than parsing those bb files. |
| 19:37.00 | [cc]smart | now i'm trying hard but i can't find the OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES mentionned above |
| 19:37.33 | NAiL | ~hail DaKa2 |
| 19:37.33 | jbot | ACTION bows down to DaKa2 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:37.48 | [cc]smart | i remember my typo |
| 19:37.49 | DaKa2 | :) |
| 19:37.58 | [cc]smart | must be there somewhere |
| 19:38.55 | jbowler-away | J |
| 19:39.17 | jbowler-away | Jul 30 11:17:50 <jbowler-away> I think I will probably add in something like OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES. |
| 19:40.49 | jbowler-away | What I meant was "auto.conf is probably a better place for include conf/distro/freeze.conf - but that has the same problem, local.conf is currently overriding it." |
| 19:43.06 | [cc]smart | what time does your IRC shou right now ? |
| 19:43.31 | [cc]smart | i've got 21:43 now |
| 19:44.53 | NAiL | 21:44 |
| 19:45.01 | NAiL | 21:42 < [cc]smart> i've got 21:43 now |
| 19:45.03 | DaKa2 | 21:44 |
| 19:45.22 | DaKa2 | 21:43 < [cc]smart> i've got 21:43 now |
| 19:45.28 | [cc]smart | ah yes, now i see. on this you said, that you won't do it soonish. |
| 19:46.03 | [cc]smart | you made the impression that this is more complex, i repsonded i would see a possibility for a simple workaround. |
| 19:47.14 | jbowler-away | The real fix to all the problems - particularly the inability to update local.conf - is more complex. |
| 19:47.26 | [cc]smart | for now it's in openslug-packages.conf so idon't really have the problem anymre |
| 19:48.06 | jbowler-away | And, like I said, while I consider it an interesting problem I'm not inclined to work on it because I've worked on such problems before and I know what happens. |
| 19:48.22 | [cc]smart | you mean changing the users local.conf ? |
| 19:48.53 | jbowler-away | The simple addition of BBFILES += "${OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES}" to openslug.conf is, however, somewhat easier and self contained. |
| 19:49.33 | [cc]smart | i'd not even make it distro dependent |
| 19:49.43 | [cc]smart | doesn't need it if this is onyl available via local.conf |
| 19:49.58 | jbowler-away | Also I'm more inclined to be more hard-nosed about supporting arbitrary configuration of openslug - as my questions to NAiL perhaps implied. |
| 19:50.53 | jbowler-away | The name is just for consistency with the other 'EXTRA' parameters. For me it's important because I have one local.conf for multiple distros. |
| 19:50.56 | [cc]smart | nobody is asked about supporting it, it's about easily allowing others to do it |
| 19:51.03 | jbowler-away | (But I can change that). |
| 19:51.48 | jbowler-away | The thing we don't want is to have firmware images called 'openslug' which do not use exactly the modules/packages in openslug.conf+local.conf.template |
| 19:52.28 | [cc]smart | i'm adding a package, the image doesn't change with that does it ' |
| 19:53.14 | jbowler-away | No, that's fine - it's really only changes to OPENSLUG_EXTRA_RDEPENDS (or FILESYSTEMS) |
| 19:53.19 | [cc]smart | and dev end stuff isn't official too |
| 19:54.25 | [cc]smart | what would maybe be of use was if there were the ability to give the user information on a bitbake run |
| 19:54.29 | jbowler-away | There's an additional problem in that making a new DISTRO necessarily means changing the name, but some of the stuff which is not really DISTRO specific is stored in an openslug (only) directory. |
| 19:54.53 | [cc]smart | eg if oyu find BBFILES definition in local.conf the bitbake run might issue a warning that it's deprecated |
| 19:54.59 | [cc]smart | sth. like taht |
| 19:55.35 | jbowler-away | I couldn't find a way of doing that from bitbake, but it's trivial from the openslug/Makefile |
| 19:55.36 | [cc]smart | if sth. becomes more general, it should go general |
| 19:56.18 | [cc]smart | well gets time to go out for a drink |
| 19:56.36 | jbowler-away | It's not that general: openslug->nslu2, but unslung->nslu2 - so things can't be moved from openslug->nslu2 because they would then drop into unslung. |
| 19:56.39 | NAiL | DaKa2: have you tried compiling iperf in the native environment? |
| 19:57.19 | DaKa2 | NAiL: nope.. Im just setting up a test enviorment to see whats missing so I could test |
| 19:57.26 | jbowler-away | I suspect I'm going to have to add an OVERRIDE to make this work. (And this is something I have to do because I have to fix the uclibc stuff). |
| 19:57.54 | NAiL | DaKa2: ok. I've tried compiling iperf cross and that didn't work. I've compiled it natively, but not with bitbake |
| 19:58.08 | DaKa2 | NAiL: is there a bb of it? |
| 19:58.33 | NAiL | yes |
| 19:59.23 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r3c9f4ce1... 10/packages/perl/ (perl-5.8.7/config.sh-arm-linux.patch perl_5.8.7.bb): Add -lgcc_s to perllibs for arm too (already added for armeb), Closes: OE-Bug#113 |
| 20:01.24 | NAiL | Da Man :) |
| 20:03.26 | DaKa2 | dammit.. I keep finding bugs in things... |
| 20:03.35 | NAiL | what now? |
| 20:04.05 | DaKa2 | cpan script in perl uses #!hostperl and that should be #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 20:04.23 | DaKa2 | problem because of cross compile.. oh well. probably simple to fix |
| 20:04.52 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rc59a2ecf... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:04.52 | CIA-9 | propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 8f021c5761ffd10b30d30c5b1470ee277e242699) |
| 20:04.52 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.51 | DaKa2 | I was going to test if http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7 is still valid |
| 20:06.23 | DaKa2 | have to figure out how to get cpan to use passive ftp first.. |
| 20:07.57 | DaKa2 | oh right, the gzip bug to.. forgot that one.. |
| 20:19.25 | NAiL | I don't get this |
| 20:19.28 | NAiL | jbowler-away: ping? |
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| 20:20.11 | NAiL | ERROR: (mpc,0.11.2,r0): package not found <-- after manually compiling mpc (which is in packages/musicpd, included in openslug-packages.bb) and trying bb freeze. |
| 20:21.14 | NAiL | s/.bb/.conf/ |
| 20:22.33 | NAiL | now I'm confused |
| 20:23.14 | CIA-9 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/ion.mk: upstream upgrade from 200500625 to 20050728 |
| 20:23.57 | jbowler-away | NAiL: it may be that the heuristic to find the .bb file is failing |
| 20:24.56 | NAiL | ok, I'll worry about that tomorrow |
| 20:25.03 | NAiL | I'll go see a movie instead ;-) |
| 20:25.22 | jbowler-away | It should be fine though - the bb file is just mpc_0.11.2.bb |
| 20:25.54 | NAiL | I get "nothing provides" when trying to build it directly |
| 20:26.06 | NAiL | with -b and path it works like a charm of course |
| 20:26.20 | jbowler-away | PKGDIR may be wrong |
| 20:26.37 | NAiL | where? |
| 20:26.50 | jbowler-away | setup-env |
| 20:27.20 | NAiL | everything else builds |
| 20:27.21 | NAiL | PKGDIR=$OEROOT/openembedded/ |
| 20:27.38 | NAiL | where $OEROOT is correct ;-) |
| 20:27.57 | NAiL | ie, /home/repvik/unstable/glibc/openslug/openembedded/ |
| 20:28.49 | jbowler-away | And /home/repvik/unstable/glibc/openslug/openembedded/packages/*/mpc_0.12.2.bb exists? |
| 20:28.58 | jbowler-away | (typo: 0.11.2) |
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| 20:29.29 | jbowler-away | Oh, and is unique |
| 20:29.46 | jbowler-away | (i.e. you don't have two mpc_0.11.2.bb files in the packages subdirectories) |
| 20:30.57 | NAiL | it exists and is unique |
| 20:31.37 | jbowler-away | Must be a bug in the freeze script. |
| 20:31.52 | NAiL | I'll have a look at it tomorrow |
| 20:32.47 | jbowler-away | I try it here now. |
| 20:40.59 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r71278f33... 10/packages/gzip/gzip_1.3.5.bb: Update to follow the FHS and use update-alternatives for gzip, gunzip and zcat |
| 20:41.07 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r8b812072... 10/packages/meta/openslug-native.bb: Add gzip to openslug-native |
| 20:59.51 | copperbeech | anyone here know where the updated samba keeps the log files? I've lost access to some shares I set up and can't figure ti out. I've rebuilt the smb.conf file from scratch... |
| 21:00.21 | copperbeech | the inbuilt samba (2.x) logged to /var/log/samba/ |
| 21:02.49 | copperbeech | the only thing I've done since it was all working last was install some apache apps (gallery and mediawiki etc) |
| 21:03.27 | jbowler-away | NAiL: I built mpc then bb freeze, the result seems fine (i.e. I got an openslug-packages.conf with musicpd/*.bb in it( |
| 21:06.02 | Klendathu | copperbeech, try strings smbd | grep log |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r3cffa39f... 10/packages/ixp425-eth/ixp425-eth_1.1.bb: |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | Fix the location of one of the patches not to use the unreliable |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | sourceforge mirrors. There should be no change to the module, however |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | the precise way the patches are applied has changed, so the PR has been |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-9 | bumped. |
| 21:06.15 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * re8a8ea20... 10/packages/nis/ (pwdutils_2.6.bb ypbind-mt_1.18.bb ypserv_2.17.bb): Copy over source location changes from OpenSlug-2.3-beta |
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| 21:10.02 | copperbeech | klendathu: found it in /opt/var/samba ... noth giving much away though. |
| 21:12.15 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * ra20db40e... 10/packages/pam/libpam_0.79.bb: |
| 21:12.16 | CIA-9 | Disable all the sgml documentation building - this should fix both 186 |
| 21:12.16 | CIA-9 | and 228 since both fail (with different toolsets) during the documentation |
| 21:12.16 | CIA-9 | build. |
| 21:15.09 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r495fa2b8... 10/conf/distro/ (openslug-packages.conf openslug.conf): |
| 21:15.10 | CIA-9 | Add OPENSLUG_EXTRA_BBFILES to the BBFILES in conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf |
| 21:15.10 | CIA-9 | This allows extra package directories to be added (or even individual files) |
| 21:15.10 | CIA-9 | without affecting the operation of bb freeze and bb unfreeze. Note that new |
| 21:15.10 | CIA-9 | versions of openslug-packages.conf should keep the addition at the end but |
| 21:15.11 | CIA-9 | that freeze output will not have it. |
| 21:15.13 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r674017eb... 10/ (9 files in 6 dirs): |
| 21:15.15 | CIA-9 | propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 6727313bcf2bfc29a27e4d7926ccb23386cc3459) |
| 21:15.17 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.16 | copperbeech | The samba error I'm seeing in /opt/var/samba/log.smbd is "can't open username map no. Error No such file or directory" |
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| 21:21.39 | AdamBaker | Hi all - does it seem reasonable to assume that the unslung cross build machine has openssl installed? |
| 21:21.39 | AdamBaker | I started looking at why the openssl ipk doesn't include root certs and discovered that creating a correct certs directory requires a native openssl executable - by default the Makefile runs the cross built one if you try to hash the certs directory, I've patched it to use my host native version and I'll install the result and test it if this approach seems OK. |
| 21:25.06 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r4032c179... 10/packages/perl/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Change startperl from #!hostperl to #!/usr/bin/perl so that the perl utilities like cpan works |
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| 22:09.41 | CIA-9 | 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r5c922407... 10/packages/perl/perl_5.8.7.bb: Remove ${D} from the install paths in Config_heavy.pl so that cpan knows the correct path to install things in, Closes: OE-Bug#7 |
| 22:13.52 | dyoung | DaKa2: so perl-5.8.7-r8 is the good one that is built cross ? |
| 22:14.20 | DaKa2 | dyoung: well, it built cross from r3, r9 is the latest |
| 22:14.56 | dyoung | okay, I'm seeing r8 in the feed. |
| 22:15.15 | DaKa2 | I keep finding more problems to fix all the time.. but right now I dont know of any problems |
| 22:15.28 | DaKa2 | r9 was commited 6 minutes ago so.. |
| 22:15.44 | dyoung | heh heh. So in around 9 minutes we'll see r9 in the feed. ;-) |
| 22:16.05 | DaKa2 | :) |
| 22:16.33 | DaKa2 | if the builds are still running.. Im not seeing anything in tinderbox for a few hours |
| 22:17.59 | dyoung | yep, youre right, its not running right now |
| 22:18.03 | rwhitby-asleep | builds are still running - there is a timezone problem with the tinderbox at the OE end |
| 22:18.21 | DaKa2 | ah, that explains things.. |
| 22:18.37 | rwhitby-asleep | last build finished 3 minutes ago, next just started |
| 22:18.58 | dyoung | we need to fix the clock. |
| 22:19.38 | rwhitby-asleep | zecke is working on the OE problem |
| 22:19.49 | dyoung | I meant nudi's system clock. |
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| 22:25.42 | DaKa2 | Oh well, time to sleep, I'll be away almost all of tomorrow, and on monday Im back at work.. atleast perl and gzip got fixed today, but I didn't get to setting up and testing a native build... |
| 22:25.46 | DaKa2 | bbl |
| 22:26.03 | dyoung | cool, thanks DaKa2 ! |
| 22:37.22 | dyoung | now its it the feed. |
| 22:39.19 | odoc | hey dyoung ... you turbo-enabled your nslu ? |
| 22:39.49 | dyoung | yup, I was one of the instigators actually. ;-) |
| 22:40.04 | odoc | mine is pretty unstable since desoldering |
| 22:40.19 | odoc | actually it stay online for about 3 minutes .( |
| 22:40.27 | dyoung | Whoa, |
| 22:40.47 | dyoung | My turbo noe has been up for at least a week. |
| 22:40.53 | odoc | :( |
| 22:40.56 | dyoung | both of them actually... |
| 22:40.58 | odoc | got 2323 today |
| 22:41.06 | dyoung | 3232 ? |
| 22:41.09 | dyoung | for serial? |
| 22:41.12 | odoc | will get a serial console when im back home on monday |
| 22:41.16 | odoc | jup |
| 22:41.29 | odoc | ssh disappears ... like the rest of the nslu :( |
| 22:41.43 | dyoung | do you recall what type of CPU is in yours? |
| 22:42.02 | odoc | don't know exactly .. .and can't check atm ... |
| 22:42.10 | odoc | since im at wth |
| 22:42.17 | odoc | and my nslu is at home |
| 22:42.35 | dyoung | can you let me know later? it'll be the number like FWIXP420BB or FWIXP420BL or something like that |
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| 22:42.53 | odoc | i'll check on tuesday |
| 22:43.01 | dyoung | okay |
| 22:43.17 | odoc | orded 2 netgear wgt634u today |
| 22:43.38 | odoc | will try to get usb-isdn-hfc chip working |
| 22:43.47 | odoc | and pwc of cource |
| 22:43.52 | dyoung | of course. heh |
| 22:44.36 | odoc | got some spare time atm ;P |
| 22:56.59 | malfi | odoc: I'm also trying to get my hands on a draytek minivigor, as it also has such hfc-usb chipset. I hope to get that isdn adapter running in NT-mode. There would some nice possibilites with asterisk... |
| 22:57.09 | odoc | wanna run asterisk with my pbx |
| 22:57.23 | malfi | odoc: that's exactly, what I plan to do |
| 22:57.27 | odoc | hehe |
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| 22:57.34 | odoc | which pbx do you wanna use ? |
| 22:57.44 | malfi | asterisk, of course |
| 22:57.50 | odoc | mhh |
| 22:57.59 | odoc | im using a siemens hicom pbx |
| 22:58.10 | odoc | want to use asterisk for voip only |
| 22:58.11 | malfi | the first step is to get misdn running with the current kernel |
| 22:58.38 | pauld | hi |
| 22:58.39 | malfi | I'm not too sure, if it will run without endian-fixes |
| 22:58.57 | odoc | it looks like i will use asterisk with openwrt |
| 22:59.20 | pauld | I got my first slug this week and i've putunslung on it - i'm really impressed |
| 22:59.21 | odoc | on netgear hardware |
| 22:59.31 | malfi | odoc: the hfc-usb driver seems capable of the nt-mode, so just could hang your slug with two hfc usb adapters between the PRI and the hicom |
| 22:59.40 | pauld | does anyone know the maximum size of usb harddrive that unslung supports? |
| 23:00.37 | odoc | malfi, want to use the hfc dev kit |
| 23:00.47 | malfi | odoc: gotta link? |
| 23:00.48 | odoc | and use it as sub-pbx |
| 23:00.53 | odoc | cologne chips |
| 23:00.56 | odoc | -s |
| 23:01.15 | odoc | deutsche firma :) |
| 23:02.05 | rwhitby | [cc]smart:: I don't see the problem with freeze. If you want to add a package, just bb unfreeze and the bitbake it. if you want to add it to the official package set, then add it to openslug-packages.conf and openslug-packages.bb <- what's so hard about that? |
| 23:08.42 | rwhitby | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE_qa/cgi-bin//tinder.cgi?tree=OpenEmbeddedBuild&start-time=1122743274&display-hours=48 <- you can see where the perl builds occurred :-) |
| 23:09.19 | rwhitby | (ignore the times, as #oe haven't finished the timezone support yet, so the time are only good for builds that happen in europe) |
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| 23:36.26 | philipjohnson | rwhitby: haha, I sent my reply a few minutes after you - not realizing you'd already replied... |
| 23:42.25 | philipjohnson | rwhitby: np, just hope my reply didn't undermine yours by being sent afterwards and with a slightly different twist :-) |
| 23:44.19 | rwhitby | nope, your response was right on the money |
| 23:44.58 | rwhitby | ... except you could have left "practically" out of the last paragraph :-) |
| 23:45.46 | dyoung | which post is this? |
| 23:45.49 | philipjohnson | heh, it was a rant after all :) |
| 23:46.12 | rwhitby | dyoung: latest on -general list |