| 00:18.56 | [g2] | jbowler-away, what's the command for converting and old monotone db with 21 ? |
| 00:19.53 | rwhitby-web | mt db migrate |
| 00:21.19 | [g2] | mt migrate ? |
| 00:23.47 | rwhitby-web | monotone db migrate |
| 00:25.08 | rwhitby-web | monotone -db=nslu2-linux.db db migrate if you're not using the master makefile |
| 00:25.17 | [g2] | hmmm... I think I'm was at 0.18 |
| 00:25.41 | jbowler-away | I think that will be ok. |
| 00:25.49 | rwhitby-web | yeah, that's fine |
| 00:27.36 | [g2] | cool... I've got perms issues |
| 00:27.41 | [g2] | fixing right now |
| 00:28.29 | [g2] | disks and computers never seem fast enough :) |
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| 02:05.54 | SpanKY | [g2]: awake daddy-o ? |
| 02:06.07 | SpanKY | that reflash script ... you cant use it to flash *just* the kernel ? |
| 02:07.19 | [g2] | SpanKY, one can but I don't know which version you've got |
| 02:07.38 | [g2] | we are getting ready for the next binary release |
| 02:07.59 | [g2] | you may want to wait a few days or a week and just use that |
| 02:08.36 | [g2] | you know.... |
| 02:08.48 | SpanKY | i used the source tarball ... so whatever day i d/l-ed it |
| 02:08.49 | [g2] | there should be an OE ebuild in gentoo |
| 02:08.53 | SpanKY | read my mind and tell me when that was |
| 02:09.13 | [g2] | today's ? |
| 02:09.22 | SpanKY | brr wrong |
| 02:09.38 | SpanKY | looks like i d/l-ed it like 3 weeks ago |
| 02:09.44 | SpanKY | guess i should switch to monotone |
| 02:10.12 | [g2] | jacques, said that addded the ebuild for version 21 yesterday |
| 02:10.22 | [g2] | ~x86 I'd guess |
| 02:11.37 | [g2] | but with a simple ebuild that had some deps on some packages all in portage it'd be easy for gentoo users to build |
| 02:12.59 | [g2] | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/RequiredSoftware |
| 02:13.20 | [g2] | in the Gentoo section that plus monotone |
| 02:14.08 | [g2] | then one can just wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile; make build-openslug |
| 02:14.44 | [g2] | it takes a long to on the first monotone pull though |
| 02:18.23 | SpanKY | i imagine so |
| 02:18.28 | SpanKY | i'm gonna start that and get some f00d |
| 02:18.29 | SpanKY | thanks |
| 02:18.31 | Tiersten | It's a better now with 0.21 |
| 02:18.40 | Tiersten | Still slow but not as bad |
| 02:18.59 | SpanKY | btw, i dont know who controls the busybox config, but enabling 'tab completion' is the #1 feature i wish was added ;) |
| 02:20.58 | SpanKY | heh, too bad pysco sucks on amd64 |
| 02:21.13 | [g2] | runs fine on mine |
| 02:21.19 | SpanKY | lies ! |
| 02:21.26 | SpanKY | mmm that note about bitkeeper should be removed |
| 02:21.31 | [g2] | but I'm running debian on the amd64 :) |
| 02:21.32 | SpanKY | especially since you cant even run it anymore |
| 02:21.43 | SpanKY | it'll error 'No free version after July 1 !' |
| 02:21.43 | [g2] | nod on the bk |
| 02:21.59 | SpanKY | hmm i can edit it |
| 02:22.30 | [g2] | it's a wiki right :) |
| 02:22.47 | [g2] | only the top level pages are controlled |
| 02:22.52 | SpanKY | hrm, the note about requiring X was wrong anyways |
| 02:23.04 | SpanKY | installing bitkeeper would pull X only if you have X in USE |
| 02:23.13 | SpanKY | and if that's an error it's your own damned fault |
| 02:24.01 | SpanKY | bbiab, grub |
| 02:25.00 | [g2] | cheers |
| 02:25.10 | [g2] | jbowler-away, are you away ? |
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| 02:26.56 | [g2]-amd64 | monotone --db=monotone/nslu2-linux.db co --revision=t:OpenSlug-2.3-beta OpenSlug-2.3-beta |
| 02:26.57 | [g2]-amd64 | monotone: expanding selection 't:OpenSlug-2.3-beta' |
| 02:26.57 | [g2]-amd64 | monotone: expanded to '94612cda9b64223716ba5b9c5dadc1fa29d554af' |
| 02:26.57 | [g2]-amd64 | monotone: misuse: revision 94612cda9b64223716ba5b9c5dadc1fa29d554af is not a member of branch org.nslu2-linux.dev |
| 02:30.09 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: why are you trying to check out an openembedded revision tag into a nslu2-linux master makefile branch? |
| 02:30.40 | rwhitby-web | (or maybe it's monotone trying to do that ....) |
| 02:30.56 | [g2] | monotone is probably trying to do that |
| 02:31.19 | rwhitby-web | in any case, the error message is correct - that tag is not a member of org.nslu2-linux.anything - it's a member of org.openembedded.dev or org.openembedded.nslu2-linux |
| 02:32.04 | [g2] | ok.. So the command jbowler gave wasn't correct |
| 02:32.30 | [g2] | I don't know the differene, I"m just trying to test the OpenSlug tagged release |
| 02:32.48 | [g2] | what would the proper command be |
| 02:33.04 | [g2] | (it makes sense that it's an OE tag |
| 02:33.09 | [g2] | ) |
| 02:37.15 | rwhitby-web | maybe add a --branch=org.openembedded.nslu2-linux to it ... |
| 02:37.37 | [g2] | ok |
| 02:37.43 | rwhitby-web | cause you're probably doing it in /home/slug which is by default the org.nslu2-linux.dev branch |
| 02:38.18 | rwhitby-web | (probably stores that default in /home/slug/MT somewhere ..) |
| 03:03.31 | SpanKY | damn, monotone is still going heh |
| 03:14.40 | jbowler | [g2]: that's correct, the command will work if you aren't in a monotone directory (neither any parent of the directory nor the directory itself contains MT) |
| 03:15.32 | jbowler | If you are in /home/nslu2 then just cd to openembedded and use the 'update' command (then run 'make openslug-build' - a make update will put the latest revision again.) |
| 03:17.20 | jbowler | BTW if you try to run builds in parallel and you run ccache at some point the two builds will end up building the same thing at the same time and one or both will fail. |
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| 05:33.51 | Jacmet | jbowler-zzz: regarding rootdelay - it was just so I didn't need an initrd/jffs2 partition to boot from USB .. |
| 06:03.48 | jbowler-zzz | because the kernel didn't support jffs2? |
| 06:05.04 | jbowler-zzz | I guess if you remove the jffs2 support it's possible to put more stuff into the kernel (given the 1MByte compressed size restriction). |
| 06:10.59 | Jacmet | jbowler-zzz: well, it was for my Debian setup, so I didn't need jffs2 for anything else |
| 06:11.29 | jbowler-zzz | right, the mtd drivers can go too I believe. |
| 06:11.33 | Jacmet | jbowler-zzz: http://peter.korsgaard.com/articles/debian-nslu2.php |
| 06:11.55 | jbowler-zzz | yes, I've seen it - I realised what the context is. |
| 06:12.15 | Jacmet | it's on Linuxdevices now btw - might be nice with a bit of publicity for nslu2-linux: http://peter.korsgaard.com/articles/debian-nslu2.php |
| 06:12.23 | Jacmet | argh, http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6152296875.html |
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| 07:19.37 | rwhitby-web | Jacmet: nice article! |
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| 11:01.44 | hanjo-work | hi |
| 11:02.00 | hanjo-work | anyone else here using nfs root with the latest head? |
| 11:02.36 | dyoung | Not I. |
| 11:02.52 | dyoung | are you seeing issues? |
| 11:04.22 | hanjo-work | well, with the latest fix that jbowler did yesterday, the ro issue is gone, and turnup nfs -i works ok. But after shutdown -r it takes about 2-3 minutes for the system to recover |
| 11:04.59 | dyoung | strange. that was a separate patch. |
| 11:05.16 | hanjo-work | I am not saying that it is related |
| 11:05.25 | hanjo-work | I was not able to test shutdown -r before |
| 11:05.52 | hanjo-work | what is the average delay you are experiencing after reset? |
| 11:06.16 | jacques | sounds almost like a DNS lookup timeout |
| 11:06.18 | dyoung | if I do "reboot" it shuts the stuff down, and reboots. |
| 11:06.23 | dyoung | so the total time is... |
| 11:06.28 | dyoung | ah hell lemme just try it. |
| 11:08.20 | hanjo-work | jacques, that can be the problem, I have the local name server turned off |
| 11:08.35 | dyoung | okay, 38s from "reboot" to redboot load. |
| 11:08.58 | dyoung | then another 46s to prompt on the serial port |
| 11:09.03 | dyoung | login prompt |
| 11:09.29 | hanjo-work | is netconsole enabled by default in the head image? |
| 11:11.46 | hanjo-work | dyoung, thx. for the numbers. I will try to compare them with what I am getting here, but I don't have a serial |
| 11:12.07 | dyoung | right before the prompt, I see that dropbear starts. |
| 11:12.29 | dyoung | so you can swap the timing for when ssh becomes available. |
| 11:12.39 | dyoung | you could use the LED's to determine where you are in the reboot process too. |
| 11:12.56 | dyoung | solid yellow is when redboot starts IIRC. |
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| 11:13.39 | hanjo-work | I spend a long time in amber flashing |
| 11:14.08 | dyoung | Hmm, lemme reboot and see when that is. |
| 11:14.11 | dyoung | reboot |
| 11:14.13 | dyoung | oop |
| 11:15.23 | dyoung | yellow/green flashing? |
| 11:16.09 | hanjo-work | without green inbetween |
| 11:16.15 | dyoung | Okay. |
| 11:16.22 | dyoung | Thats during the boot. |
| 11:16.48 | dyoung | it starts blinking that pattern right before init starts. |
| 11:17.07 | dyoung | so I'm guessing possibly the pivot happens slowly. |
| 11:18.44 | hanjo-work | I am using hard coded IP adress in the nfs root specification, so theoreticaly it does not need any name resoultion at this stage. And the network is not loaded at this time at all |
| 11:19.58 | dyoung | Hmm. |
| 11:20.50 | dyoung | if I can figure out how to turnup to nfs in the next 30min I can tell you whats going on on the console port |
| 11:23.16 | hanjo-work | on the slug side it is just: turnup nfs -i IP:/path, but you need a properly configured nfs server with the path exported |
| 11:24.16 | hanjo-work | I will try to modprobe netconsole early in the init to see if I can get any messages |
| 11:24.44 | dyoung | ok. I have a NFS server setup. Lemme poke at it for 15 min and get back to you. |
| 11:38.35 | dyoung | I just reflashed the latest version. |
| 11:38.56 | dyoung | I'm having unrelated issues with that slugh right now though. |
| 11:39.40 | hanjo-work | no prob. |
| 11:42.49 | dyoung | Okay, there. |
| 11:42.54 | dyoung | NFSroot first boot. |
| 11:43.56 | dyoung | it was relatively fast on first boot. |
| 11:46.03 | [g2] | I think NFS is faster than disk |
| 11:46.03 | dyoung | I dont see a delay. |
| 11:46.30 | dyoung | from reboot to redboot is 45sec |
| 11:46.48 | dyoung | from redboot to i nit is 21s |
| 11:46.49 | [g2] | I mean in operation |
| 11:47.12 | hanjo-work | did you try a second reboot?, i.e. after your first boot with nfs root |
| 11:47.19 | dyoung | from init to login prompt is 24s |
| 11:47.32 | dyoung | that was the reboot. |
| 11:47.35 | hanjo-work | hmm, must be something wrong with my server then |
| 11:47.49 | hanjo-work | thx. for the help |
| 11:48.09 | dyoung | when was your last pull? |
| 11:48.21 | dyoung | like > 12hrs ago? |
| 11:48.23 | hanjo-work | 2 hours ago |
| 11:48.29 | dyoung | okay, youre current. |
| 11:48.48 | dyoung | I can reboot it again if you wish to double verify. |
| 11:50.10 | hanjo-work | I will try to snoop in with ethereal |
| 11:52.32 | dyoung | the 3rd reboot yielded a 76sec time from "reboot" to login prompt. |
| 11:54.49 | hanjo-work | ok, then it is definitely something wrong on my side. Thx. again |
| 11:55.00 | dyoung | np. |
| 11:55.34 | dyoung | Dunno if it makes a differnce, but the nslu2 that this was tested on was a "turbo"-ed unit. |
| 11:56.59 | hanjo-work | I beleive that this is some sort of networking issue, so the cpu speed should not be an issue |
| 11:58.16 | dyoung | I'm pretty sure the CPU speed would not yield a 3x speed deficiet (or however the hell you spll that word) on your side. |
| 12:04.05 | NAiL | deficit? |
| 12:05.55 | dyoung | yeah, that, |
| 12:06.25 | NAiL | yay |
| 12:14.36 | hanjo-work | It looks like I am experiencing a really slow UDP nfs transfer |
| 12:15.15 | dyoung | is that related to the specific NFS version you are running on the server side? |
| 12:16.14 | hanjo-work | might be |
| 12:16.34 | hanjo-work | does the slug support nfs over tcp? |
| 12:16.46 | dyoung | is that in version3? |
| 12:16.59 | dyoung | Actually, either way ithink the answer is yes. |
| 12:17.11 | dyoung | because slug is supposed support up to V4 now. |
| 12:17.20 | dyoung | (I havnt tested myself yet though) |
| 12:17.37 | dyoung | this is the first time I'm fooling with NFS root in months. |
| 12:18.47 | NAiL | how is locking with NFS nowadays, btw? |
| 12:19.08 | hanjo-work | i am using v3 |
| 12:20.37 | dyoung | hanjo-work, sorry my batteries ran out. If theres any additional testing I can help you with, I'll catch it up in the logs later. |
| 12:21.15 | hanjo-work | good night |
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| 12:44.41 | hanjo-work | OK, I know that there are not many fedora fans here, but in case anyone hits the same problem. It was a server side issue (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=150759). The latest FC kernel seems to fix the problem. |
| 12:45.18 | NAiL | I know there are a few that use FC |
| 12:48.34 | CIA-8 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/streamripper.mk: New streamripper version with OGG support thanks to bwalle - upped IPK and dependencies |
| 12:48.41 | VoodooZ_Work | I do. |
| 12:51.03 | [g2] | hanjo-work, you're running NFS v3 as a client right ? |
| 12:51.09 | hanjo-work | yes |
| 12:51.41 | hanjo-work | but the issue is with nfs on the server side interacting with ext3 |
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| 14:59.58 | Tiersten | ah. you just need to know somebody that works for google... |
| 15:00.31 | ingeba | Tiersten: Yeah... if only... |
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| 15:04.03 | Tiersten | uh oh. they've let him down from the tower |
| 15:04.13 | ka6sox | heh |
| 15:04.17 | ka6sox | hi Tiersten |
| 15:04.24 | ByronT-Desktop | where are ya? |
| 15:04.31 | ka6sox | Tirane |
| 15:05.19 | ByronT-Desktop | I was just discussing all of the comp equipment that I now have to replace... |
| 15:05.26 | ByronT-Desktop | including laptop |
| 15:05.36 | ka6sox | back in what???? |
| 15:05.47 | ka6sox | Fire? Flood? Pistulence???? |
| 15:05.56 | ByronT-Desktop | lightning strike |
| 15:05.58 | Tiersten | Pistulence? Sounds painful |
| 15:06.40 | ka6sox | ya.... |
| 15:13.49 | ka6sox | we leave on the 5am Airplane.... |
| 15:15.53 | Tiersten | Fun |
| 15:15.55 | Tiersten | Where next? |
| 15:22.15 | ka6sox | Vienna, Copenhagen,Chicago |
| 15:24.12 | ka6sox | maybe a stopover in Vienna |
| 15:32.03 | Tiersten | Nice |
| 15:35.09 | ka6sox | I've been totally cut off...the BBC transmitter died and havent' seen any news for 4 days. |
| 15:46.16 | NAiL | pestilence? |
| 15:46.36 | Tiersten | Yeah |
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| 17:12.16 | [g2] | ~praise Jacmet |
| 17:12.16 | jbot | All hail Jacmet! |
| 17:12.20 | [g2] | heh |
| 17:16.11 | VoodooZ_Work | did somebody make changes to udev recently as udevstart is now broken on newer builds. |
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| 17:16.27 | Jacmet | [g2]: hi ;) |
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| 17:32.25 | VoodooZ_Work | anybody using udev with openslug??? |
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| 18:18.32 | VoodooZ_Work | is openssh much faster than dropbear still? |
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| 20:50.53 | Jacmet_ | pheuw, finally got my machine up and running again |
| 20:51.08 | Jacmet_ | the phone company chose a bad day for doing cable work :/ |
| 20:52.19 | jacques | :-( |
| 20:52.24 | jacques | wb |
| 20:52.40 | Jacmet_ | oh well, the debian article is up again now |
| 20:52.46 | Jacmet_ | jacques: hi |
| 20:53.54 | ByronT-Desktop | jacmet, believe me, it could be worse..... |
| 20:54.21 | Jacmet_ | ByronT-Desktop: certainly - but it's not every day that machine sees so much web traffic |
| 20:54.29 | ByronT-Desktop | (speaking from experience and lightning strike at house last night) |
| 20:54.47 | Jacmet_ | ByronT-Desktop: damn |
| 20:55.29 | ByronT-Desktop | that was one of the words I believe I used last night... yes |
| 20:55.32 | Jacmet_ | ByronT-Desktop: this machine is currently 1100 km away, so system administration can be a hassle |
| 20:55.45 | ByronT-Desktop | might have been when I got hit in the hand holding my mouse |
| 20:56.17 | Jacmet_ | ByronT-Desktop: sounds unhealthy |
| 20:56.50 | ByronT-Desktop | well, yes, the mouse is completely dead - but think paper clip into wall outlet / light socket.... |
| 20:57.51 | ByronT-Desktop | I'm going to miss my ThinkPad T42p though... having to wait on insurance, etc. |
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| 21:43.45 | CIA-8 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (6 files in 2 dirs): preliminary work on qemu |
| 21:44.20 | dyoung-zzzz | Cool, so I can run my DOS apps now eh. |
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| 21:45.47 | NAiL | neat |
| 21:45.49 | NAiL | :P |
| 21:46.22 | NAiL | I'm impressed I can run most of my lucasart games on my XBox :D |
| 21:48.57 | jp30-work | it's not working yet - at the moment it cross-builds, but dumps core when you try to use it (SIGILL). I think that some of the generated arm code is wrongly byteswapped during cross-compilation |
| 21:49.28 | jp30-work | if anyone here knows more about qemu than me, now would be a good time to make yourself known |
| 22:03.07 | CIA-8 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/emacs.mk: now that emacs no longer has a broken rpath, it needs LD_LIBRARY_PATH set during a native build |
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| 22:21.59 | [g2] | Jacmet, how much traffic did you see ? |
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