| 00:03.21 | [g2] | NAiL, jacques build perl natively with the glibc 2.3.5 and got 100% on the make test iirc |
| 00:06.02 | NAiL | ah, ok |
| 00:06.28 | [g2] | how's the make test going ? |
| 00:06.41 | [g2] | You seem to be having fun :) I hope you are. |
| 00:06.52 | NAiL | Oh yes, I am ;) |
| 00:07.09 | NAiL | Well.. looking at the list, it says "FAILED at test 35" |
| 00:07.31 | [g2] | just one test ? |
| 00:07.34 | NAiL | "t/op/magic" |
| 00:07.35 | NAiL | Yeah |
| 00:07.48 | NAiL | It has skipped a few, as usual |
| 00:08.40 | [g2] | are you still working up to the MySQL build ? :) |
| 00:08.48 | NAiL | hehehe, yeah |
| 00:09.33 | [g2] | I think there were only 4 Python tests that failed, and one was random which probably passes now |
| 00:11.30 | NAiL | I'm setting up a rather custom environment on my slug now. We've got a temporary plane we're gonna use :D |
| 00:12.20 | [g2] | sounds fun |
| 00:12.31 | NAiL | My old trainer will do for development, until we can build the large scale model. |
| 00:12.59 | NAiL | It's not large enough to accomodate all the stuff, so redunda-slug won't be in the dev version :P |
| 00:13.36 | NAiL | oh... yes... brilliant idea! I need to add bluetooth to the slug as well.. |
| 00:14.03 | NAiL | Eliminating having to plug my laptop into the plane to update it |
| 00:14.20 | [g2] | and the class 1 stuff goes 100M |
| 00:14.30 | [g2] | outdoors :) |
| 00:14.44 | NAiL | Haha... yeah, I can just fly the plane in a circle around my head, and update it mid-air :P |
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| 00:17.16 | NAiL | Of course, sparkfun has just what I need :D |
| 00:20.30 | jacques | the "t/op/magic" "FAILED at test 35" is because you have busybox ps |
| 00:20.42 | jacques | if you install procps ps it will succeed |
| 00:21.24 | NAiL | ah, ok |
| 00:29.42 | NAiL | Hmm.. I forget. Someone told me how much current the slug uses at the most (excluding any usb-connected stuff). Anyone remember? |
| 00:39.35 | NAiL | Ah.. and does anyone know the weight of the board? I don't have a scale that is accurate enough :( |
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| 08:56.09 | jf-work | nail: ping |
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| 10:14.07 | NAiL | jf-work: pong |
| 10:14.35 | dyoung-zzzz | nail, we were wondering about the ownership of the mirror files on your mirror. |
| 10:14.46 | dyoung-zzzz | the files seem to be owned by unslung. |
| 10:16.00 | NAiL | yeah |
| 10:16.29 | dyoung-zzzz | it would be ideal if you can chown -R them to nslu2 |
| 10:16.44 | dyoung-zzzz | since thats how the scripts are structured to login |
| 10:17.02 | dyoung-zzzz | login/rsync. |
| 10:17.12 | NAiL | done |
| 10:17.18 | jf-work | thx |
| 10:17.51 | dyoung-zzzz | thansk nail |
| 10:18.05 | dyoung-zzzz | (thats what jf-work was pinging you about) |
| 10:18.37 | jf-work | NAiL mirror refresh in progress... |
| 10:19.24 | dyoung-zzzz | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 10:19.24 | jbot | Well, my work here is done. |
| 10:19.24 | jf-work | done without errors :) |
| 10:19.59 | NAiL | :) |
| 10:20.42 | dyoung-zzzz | nail, did samba work out for you? |
| 10:20.47 | NAiL | yeah |
| 10:20.55 | dyoung-zzzz | Cool. |
| 10:23.48 | dyoung-zzzz | nail, does your SlugAir project have tilt meters or accelerometers in it? |
| 10:24.15 | NAiL | accelerometers and gyro |
| 10:24.29 | dyoung-zzzz | are you reading those into Slug? |
| 10:24.40 | dyoung-zzzz | or are those gonna be into a AVR? |
| 10:25.20 | NAiL | they're most likely going to be read by an AVR, then fed to the slug |
| 10:25.29 | dyoung-zzzz | I see. |
| 10:26.10 | dyoung-zzzz | I find myself in a quandry about how best to read accelerometers. |
| 10:26.44 | dyoung-zzzz | (and tilt meters) |
| 10:27.20 | dyoung-zzzz | UBE is in the cards.... |
| 10:27.20 | dyoung-zzzz | ~ube |
| 10:27.20 | jbot | ube is, like, Ugly But Effective. Or sometimes Unorthrodox But Effective |
| 10:27.40 | NAiL | yeah, I'ev been wondering a bit about that myself |
| 10:28.17 | NAiL | they output an analog signal, IIRC? |
| 10:28.35 | NAiL | I'm not that much into that part yet. The Atmel guy is fiddling with that right now |
| 10:33.28 | NAiL | I can't think of an easy way to read the sensors into the slug directly |
| 10:35.28 | NAiL | hmm... what's the difference between gyro and tilt? |
| 10:38.28 | dyoung-zzzz | Through I2C is all I can think of. |
| 10:42.45 | NAiL | dyoung-zzzz: btw, you won't need the unslung user login, do you? |
| 10:45.27 | jf-work | NAiL: if your question is relative to the mirror sync, the answer is no |
| 10:45.48 | dyoung-zzzz | yeah, what jf-work said. :-) |
| 10:46.04 | NAiL | ok, then I'll remove it |
| 10:46.19 | dyoung-zzzz | the script is now hard wired to use the user nslu2 as the login. |
| 10:46.56 | dyoung-zzzz | which is convenient because the other mirrors generally have the same nslu2 user. |
| 10:47.18 | NAiL | yeah |
| 10:49.42 | jf-work | ok, it is now time for lunch. let's go. |
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| 11:04.39 | NAiL | second slug successfully openslug2'ed |
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| 11:49.31 | NAiL | hmmyay |
| 11:49.31 | NAiL | cc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1) |
| 11:49.52 | NAiL | Methinks I ran out of swap.. |
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| 12:02.16 | [g2] | jacques, still around ? |
| 12:03.29 | rwhitby-away | hey [g2] - congrats on the OpenSlug 2.0 release |
| 12:03.47 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, thx but it was really jbowler-zzz and ByronT-Away |
| 12:04.11 | [g2] | the Release notes page looked really nice I thought |
| 12:04.27 | [g2] | and most importantly the release is really shaping up |
| 12:06.09 | rwhitby-away | I'm putting together a complete nslu2-linux development directory structure. Top-level Makefile, subdirs: bitbake, openembedded, unslung, openslug, apex, optware, monotone. Build everything to do with this project with a single "make all". |
| 12:06.47 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, is the MAN! |
| 12:07.28 | [g2] | are you just going to change TMPDIR and the BBFILES on the fly ? |
| 12:07.32 | rwhitby-away | the repo transition is the perfect opportunity. everyone is going to need to re-pull everything anyway, so we might as well clean up a bit. |
| 12:07.56 | [g2] | it think freezing changes now has been a good thing |
| 12:07.59 | rwhitby-away | no, that stuff will still be below the openslug and unslung directories as before |
| 12:08.20 | rwhitby-away | the downloads, bitbake, and openembedded directories will be shared |
| 12:08.29 | [g2] | so you'll just re-run the setup-env equiv? |
| 12:08.44 | rwhitby-away | it will be run independently in unslung and openslug subdirs |
| 12:08.51 | [g2] | ok |
| 12:09.12 | [g2] | makes sense, just "down" a subdir |
| 12:09.18 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 12:09.44 | rwhitby-away | so if you only want to do stuff in one of the different areas, you just cd into there and do like you do today |
| 12:09.56 | rwhitby-away | it will all live under /home/slug/... |
| 12:10.04 | NAiL | [g2]: Btw, a few other things with the dev env install script.. gnu-config, libperl & m4 are pulled in as deps to automake. They are also installed "manually" later. Is there a reason? (Ie, doesn't ipkg update deps?) |
| 12:10.26 | NAiL | Started with a "clean" slug not long ago |
| 12:10.28 | [g2] | nod you could even add an extra couple directories for OpenSlug-2.0 and Unslung-5.5 |
| 12:11.47 | [g2] | NAiL, dunno for sure perl is compiles but doesn't run in the cross build, but I didn't pull all perl things as I'm sure it would be nicer to build cross |
| 12:12.06 | [g2] | s/is // |
| 12:13.12 | NAiL | any reason ncurses-dev isn't installed? |
| 12:13.33 | [g2] | not really |
| 12:13.37 | rwhitby-away | NAiL: this script in a repo anywhere? |
| 12:14.15 | NAiL | rwhitby-away: Not that I know. It's on the wiki. |
| 12:14.39 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: where should it go? |
| 12:15.01 | rwhitby-away | (much easier to update and run from a repo rather than a wiki page ...) |
| 12:15.35 | rwhitby-away | jacques is setting up banana slug now. he and you should be using the same script and collaborating |
| 12:15.36 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, well it's mostly baked but I didn't know if it was fully baked yet so that's why I didn't make it a script |
| 12:16.01 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: you know that's no excuse. release early, release often. |
| 12:16.11 | [g2] | I did, just to the wiki |
| 12:16.22 | NAiL | [g2]: btw, samba initscript+conf-file issue is basically fixed, but not pushed afaik. |
| 12:16.39 | [g2] | NAiL, cool and thx |
| 12:17.07 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: seriously, jacques should be using this to set up banana, and editing it on the fly as he goes. can you sync up with him on this? |
| 12:17.45 | [g2] | I ask jacques what he's doing, certainly that makes total sense to me |
| 12:18.03 | [g2] | I think the base is all there |
| 12:18.17 | [g2] | I hadn't built perl natively, but NAiL did the other day |
| 12:18.28 | rwhitby-away | banana is the openslug native build host, so it should be set up so that other developers can replicate it's installation. the only way to do that is with a script in a repo. |
| 12:18.31 | NAiL | yup. Works like a charm |
| 12:18.45 | [g2] | is Test 35 the only issue ? |
| 12:18.57 | NAiL | yeah, fixed with procps ps |
| 12:19.29 | [g2] | Ok.. so it's 100% perl, 98% Python (only 3 or 4 tests fail out of 249) |
| 12:19.59 | [g2] | the leaves the glibc tests and LTP suite |
| 12:20.07 | [g2] | and your make of MySQL |
| 12:20.31 | NAiL | Haven't stared with that yet, as soon as I get this slug up proper I will |
| 12:20.39 | [g2] | nod. |
| 12:22.07 | NAiL | hmm.. isn't there a procps ipkg? |
| 12:26.19 | [g2] | NAiL, I need to find out where that comes from |
| 12:26.37 | [g2] | we also need to figure out what we want to replace from busybox |
| 12:33.30 | NAiL | gotta run, look at stuff later. |
| 12:33.42 | [g2] | cheers |
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| 14:48.59 | Sutak | Has anyone tested the hybrid-ircd package? I try to start ircd and get: Could not load modules from /opt/modules/autoload/: No such file or directory |
| 14:49.27 | Sutak | And finally: Error loading core module m_die.so: terminating ircd |
| 14:50.18 | ByronT | I know some of the devs are using it, you can ask (politely) in #nslu2-linux |
| 14:51.15 | rwhitby-asleep | ByronT: I'm not aware of anyone using it. A number of people are using miau as a bouncer ... |
| 14:51.29 | Sutak | Byront: I am trying. :) |
| 14:51.36 | ByronT | ah |
| 14:52.08 | Sutak | The package consists only of 2 files: the binary and simple.conf |
| 14:52.22 | ByronT | hmm.. Sutak was already in #nslu2-linux..... evidence that I have not had the requisite amount of coffee to be answering questions this morning |
| 14:52.33 | Sutak | Maybe module support has to be disabled? But how? |
| 14:53.11 | Sutak | ByronT: No problem. |
| 14:53.28 | ByronT | Sutak, I was mistaken, as rwhitby said, some are using miau as a bouncer... but feel free to try to fix ircd, and become part of the development! |
| 14:55.57 | Sutak | ByronT: I would be happy if I could fix it...if I do so (by pure luck) I will contribute my findings. |
| 15:08.02 | Sutak | Thank you anyway..and good bye. |
| 16:21.44 | NAiL | [g2]: MySQL is still building. Hasn't started compiling sql_yacc yet, but I guess that one's gonna take a *long* time... |
| 16:23.34 | [g2] | NAiL, thx |
| 16:23.43 | [g2] | how long has it been going ? |
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| 16:25.49 | NAiL | [g2]: four-five hours |
| 16:26.13 | [g2] | it'd be interesting to compare build times on the 32 versus 64 MB units |
| 16:26.55 | NAiL | It'll be interesting to see whether or not building mysql wears out the red hdd-access light on my enclosure by swapping ;) |
| 16:27.09 | NAiL | It's more or less continous atm |
| 16:28.27 | NAiL | The build was interrupted earlier, since I forgot that I didn't have a working perl on this slug |
| 16:28.34 | [g2] | If I can get my loaner going 425@533 with 256MB that wold be very interesting too |
| 16:28.51 | NAiL | I can build if from scratch again when I'm finished building everything I need |
| 16:32.53 | [g2] | do you have your config parameters ? or are they all stock |
| 16:35.49 | NAiL | Removed innoDB support |
| 16:36.02 | NAiL | Might have done some other changes, can't remember. Can check later. |
| 16:36.17 | NAiL | innodb support is a really big memory hog |
| 16:37.16 | NAiL | ah, yes |
| 16:37.17 | NAiL | ./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-dependency-tracking --with-low-memory --with-mysql-user=mysql --without-debug --without-innodb --libexecdir=/usr/sbin |
| 16:37.57 | NAiL | --disable-dep-tracking is if it's a one-shot build. I'm not hacking the code, so I need no deps. |
| 16:38.08 | NAiL | (which speeds up the build a bit) |
| 16:41.05 | NAiL | The reason I'm changing the libexecdir is that mysqld resides there. I like having it in /usr/sbin (where safe_mysql, which I don't use, goes) |
| 16:41.48 | NAiL | For a standard build, don't change libexecdir ;) |
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| 17:38.16 | [g2] | jbowler-away, what was the /proc/cpu/alignment number to fix alignment errors ? |
| 17:38.30 | [g2] | Alignment trap: try (4415) PC=0x000085e4 Instr=0xe79e1000 Address=0xbefffde9 FSR 0x013 |
| 17:38.47 | [g2] | I got that during a perl 5.8.7 config |
| 17:38.56 | [g2] | actually configure.gnu |
| 17:39.37 | [g2] | cat /proc/cpu/alignment |
| 17:39.37 | [g2] | User: 4132 |
| 17:39.37 | [g2] | System: 6 |
| 17:39.37 | [g2] | Skipped: 0 |
| 17:39.37 | [g2] | Half: 6 |
| 17:39.38 | [g2] | Word: 0 |
| 17:39.40 | [g2] | Multi: 0 |
| 17:39.42 | [g2] | User faults: 2 (fixup) |
| 17:39.45 | [g2] | I guess 2 is your friend :) |
| 17:41.32 | jbowler-away | You want 5 - see /etc/init.d/alignment.sh |
| 17:43.00 | [g2] | 2s not enough ? |
| 17:43.44 | [g2] | User faults: 5 (signal+warn) |
| 17:44.36 | jbowler-away | 2 just rotates the value back to what the program apparently expected. 5 causes the program to crash, so gdb can debug it. |
| 17:46.22 | jbowler-away | It's also possible, of course, that configure is deliberately testing unaligned accesses - in which case 4 or 5 will give the right result whereas the default will cause bad things to happen. |
| 17:47.06 | [g2] | I think perl 5.8.4 configured properly |
| 17:47.16 | [g2] | but 5.8.7 was unhappy |
| 17:47.58 | jbowler-away | ... well, what's causing the alignment trap? |
| 17:49.02 | [g2] | tzname[] found. |
| 17:49.02 | [g2] | (Testing for character data alignment may crash the test. That's okay.) |
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| 17:49.31 | [g2] | so 5 is the magic number then |
| 17:49.43 | jbowler-away | So the default '0' is probably a bad thing. Also this is a big red flag for cross compilation problems. |
| 17:50.25 | [g2] | well currently the default is 1 (warn) so errors were just spewing off the screen |
| 17:53.07 | jbowler-away | Yep, alignbytes all over the place... |
| 18:01.01 | jbowler-away | In the cross compile code byteorder is wrong I believe. That might explain a lot of things... |
| 18:01.18 | [g2] | tzname[] found. |
| 18:01.18 | [g2] | (Testing for character data alignment may crash the test. That's okay.) |
| 18:01.18 | [g2] | Alignment trap: try (12267) PC=0x000085e4 Instr=0xe79e1000 Address=0xbefffde9 FSR 0x013 |
| 18:01.18 | [g2] | It seems that you must access character data in an aligned manner. |
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| 18:03.27 | jbowler-away | It looks like congif.h has byteorder correct and config.sh has it wrong so long as USE_CROSS_COMPILE is being defined. |
| 18:04.26 | jbowler-away | bbl |
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| 18:19.16 | NAiL | Hmm... my samba build is logging like crazy. It's logged more than a mb since I installed it earlier today. |
| 18:20.35 | NAiL | Helps setting the proper loglevel |
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| 19:07.59 | [g2] | JoeLlama, you'll want to check out our wiki http://www.nslu2-linux.org |
| 19:08.53 | JoeLlama | okee doke :) |
| 19:09.23 | [g2] | I'm an openslug dev so I'm really interested in OpenSlug :) |
| 19:10.09 | JoeLlama | I dunno what openslug is |
| 19:10.21 | JoeLlama | I don't do much with linux at this time. |
| 19:15.10 | NAiL | [g2]: g++ -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr\"" -DDATADIR="\"/usr/var\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/share/mysql\"" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../zlib -I../include -I../regex -I. -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fno-inline -c sql_yacc.cc |
| 19:15.18 | [g2] | it depends on what kind of processors you want to play with |
| 19:15.22 | NAiL | It didn't even take a long time ;) |
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| 19:16.08 | [g2] | NAiL, that built ? |
| 19:16.13 | [g2] | or that died :( |
| 19:17.13 | NAiL | It built, and it's still happily chugging along |
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| 19:37.09 | NAiL | hmm |
| 19:37.32 | NAiL | I'm trying to add a patch to busybox, and I'm failing miserably. What kind of magic am I missing? |
| 19:42.16 | NAiL | I missed the magic of correct typing actually... |
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| 20:21.48 | [g2] | NAiL, how long did the perl tests take ? |
| 20:23.17 | NAiL | Don't know, didn't time them. Took between one to two hours I guess |
| 20:23.38 | NAiL | stupid busybox |
| 20:24.46 | NAiL | Trying to silence start-stop-daemon... but it doesn't listen to "--quiet" at all. So the checks I added in the sourcefile are never false.. |
| 20:29.51 | jeanfabrice | llagendijk: bind should be in the wiley feed since yesterday. great work ! |
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| 20:41.46 | llagendijk | jeanfabrice, thanks! |
| 20:42.30 | llagendijk | jeanfabrice, do you want me to step the version of quagga? I am not sure it makes (much) sense. |
| 20:43.25 | jacques | [g2], perl tests take around 75 minutes |
| 20:43.38 | jeanfabrice | well, you know quagga.mk better than I do :) I was just looking at the diff between cvs 1.5 and 1.6 |
| 20:44.24 | llagendijk | jeanfabrice, well lets leave it for now. I will update it when a new quagga is released anyhow |
| 20:45.05 | jeanfabrice | since you don't change the IPK version, quagga is not rebuild by the build machine. |
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| 20:56.50 | CIA-3 | 03llagendijk * 10unslung/make/quagga.mk: |
| 20:56.50 | CIA-3 | Bumped version to make sure it gets rebuilt, so feeds contain latest details like maintainer and description. |
| 20:56.50 | CIA-3 | No functional changes |
| 20:57.09 | llagendijk | jeanfabrice, ok, I bumped the version, so ipkg header contains latest details |
| 20:57.30 | jeanfabrice | ok. thank you llagendijk. |
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| 21:22.16 | llagendijk | is there somebody here that knows why there is this option TAR_OPTIONS=--format=ustar for IPKG_BUILD for the ipkg utils? |
| 21:22.32 | llagendijk | My Gnu tar does not understand that option..... |
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| 21:57.59 | [g2] | jacques, what was this one ? t/op/magic................................FAILED at test 35 |
| 22:03.38 | jacques | bad ps |
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| 22:09.24 | [g2] | jacques, thx that sounds familar |
| 22:09.48 | ilg_ | I checked out trunk from svn, but the nslu2-linux packages dir has no links. is there any way to fix it? I checked 'svn checkout' for a command line switch, but found none. |
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