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| 04:06.01 | rwhitby-away | anyone else having grief with gcc 3.4.4 building unslung or openslug from bitkeeper repo? |
| 04:07.49 | ka6sox-away | does anyone have experience with upslug on Mac OSX? |
| 04:08.51 | jacques | rwhitby-away, what are you seeing? I have't tried it yet |
| 04:09.38 | rwhitby-away | jacques: I put it back to 3.4.3 and all is well |
| 04:09.59 | rwhitby-away | PREFERRED_VERSION for gcc, gcc-cross and gcc-cross-initial |
| 04:10.01 | rwhitby-away | back later |
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| 04:30.38 | garpinc | Hi people... It's been a long time... I've just been trying to upgrade firmware to 4.x |
| 04:31.02 | garpinc | When I unplug drives and reboot I can't appear to access web interface... |
| 04:31.06 | garpinc | Any ideas? |
| 04:34.11 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/erlang.mk: fixed ROOTDIR of /opt/lib/erlang/bin/{erl,start}, bumped IPK_VERSION |
| 04:36.34 | garpinc | WIth the drives in no problem but with the drives out no response at all??? |
| 04:37.26 | garpinc | Seems like ip must be different with drives out... |
| 04:39.34 | CIA-8 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/erlang.mk: shorten description |
| 04:44.56 | garpinc | Can anyone help? |
| 04:51.42 | garpinc | GUess I'll try tommorow... |
| 04:58.17 | jacques | rwhitby-away, yeah gcc 3.4.4 build aborts |
| 05:16.04 | ka6sox-away | lets NOT update Nudi to that. |
| 05:23.52 | jacques | we should probably do what rwhitby-away did - specify the known good preferred versions until 3.4.4 builds properly |
| 05:25.36 | jacques | looks like it's trying to build javac or something |
| 05:42.24 | jacques | the oe files for gcc 3.4.3 and 3.4.4 are practically identical |
| 05:42.39 | jacques | same patches, .bb files differ only in -r versions |
| 05:44.07 | jacques | only patch which changed size is gcc34-arm-ldm-peephole.patch |
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| 07:16.17 | ka6sox-away | k |
| 09:02.23 | rwhitby-away | Now I get a too many open files error when compiling 3.4.3 - anyone know how to increase the max number of open files in ubuntu ? |
| 09:04.18 | rwhitby-away | Robert Hammond makes a good argument on nslu2-linux for making it very hard to run ipkg when you are not unslung. I think we'll do that too. |
| 09:04.30 | jacques | rwhitby-away, hmmm, that's the error I got trying to build 3.4.4 - I wonder what's going on |
| 09:05.02 | jacques | I'm not sure increasing the max open files will fix it |
| 09:05.09 | jacques | it's probably some type of runaway |
| 09:07.58 | rwhitby-away | nod |
| 09:11.42 | rwhitby-away | And I'd like to add dropbear to the next version of Unslung, and enable root login by ssh by default with the uNSLUng password. I've had enough of people not being able to follow instructions, so Unslung will have to dumb itself down to the lowest common denominator (which seems to be only slightly more intelligent than the creature our beloved NSLU2 is named after). We will move to R29, remove |
| 09:11.42 | rwhitby-away | telnetd altogether, and enable SSH with a hard-coded well-known password. |
| 09:14.28 | dyoung | Good Plan. |
| 09:16.35 | dyoung | Of course going that route will lead to tons of "wheres telnet" questions to replace the ones on the list now |
| 09:18.09 | jacques | yeah, "my windows doesn't have a ssh command"? |
| 09:21.26 | rwhitby-away | maybe a custom telnetd which prints an appropriate "use ssh, stupid" echo response. |
| 09:30.28 | dyoung | I never thought it would reach this point... |
| 09:30.47 | dyoung | (the one where we *had* to stupidify the firmware. |
| 09:30.49 | dyoung | ) |
| 09:34.38 | rwhitby-away | it's another 3 C's theorem |
| 09:35.46 | rwhitby-away | Commoditisation Causes Cro-Magnumness |
| 09:36.26 | rwhitby-away | The intelligence assumed by a firmware distribution is inversely proportional to the number of users. |
| 09:37.07 | rwhitby-away | Or maybe we just turn on telnetd permanently with no password. |
| 09:37.37 | rwhitby-away | Lock down OpenSlug and open up Unslung. |
| 09:43.03 | jacques | heh |
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| 09:46.35 | dyoung | Thatas right, I forgot about the rwhitby 3 C's. |
| 09:47.52 | dyoung | "the nslu2-linux development group takes no responsibility if you elect to connect the device to the open internet without adequate security precautions." |
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| 09:49.23 | jacques | one step close to my slug army we will be |
| 09:50.04 | dyoung | heh heh |
| 09:50.22 | dyoung | what nefarious purpose shall you use the 'army for? |
| 09:54.28 | jacques | it needs a purpose ? |
| 09:56.57 | rwhitby-away | jacques is going to get them all to send him paypal details so he can buy some new hiking boots .... |
| 09:58.42 | jacques | yeah, the heels are totally worn out on these |
| 10:07.28 | dyoung | Hmm, I should contract jacques to have some contributions for dyoung's shoe replacement too. |
| 10:07.59 | dyoung | its cracked in the sole so puddles come pouring in. |
| 10:35.58 | rwhitby-away | of course I can't even get unslung to compile at the moment, so no way to make all these changes ... |
| 10:57.10 | rwhitby-away | Hmm - libpthread-0.9.so contains "GROUP ( libpthread.so.0 libpthread_nonshared.a )" - I don't think that's right |
| 10:57.30 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.53 | rwhitby-away | "/home/unslung/tmp/cross/armeb-linux/bin/ld: cannot open linker script file /home/unslung/tmp/cross/armeb-linux/lib/libpthread.so.0: Too many open files" |
| 10:58.17 | jacques | rwhitby-away, yeah I'm talking to pb about it right now in #oe |
| 11:08.34 | rwhitby | ok, pull now to get pb_'s fix |
| 11:09.57 | jacques | rwhitby, bear in mind this might be unrelated to the compile error, it's just something he said "oops" about - he recently enabled javac for all archs other than arm and forgot about armeb |
| 11:10.42 | jacques | I noticed because the compile error is when trying to link libgcjgc.so.1.0.1 |
| 11:11.40 | rwhitby | yeah, that's why I asked whether we knew if that was the cause |
| 11:12.14 | jacques | ok, I just wanted that to be clear :-) |
| 11:12.49 | rwhitby | ah right, for those who weren't following along in #oe |
| 11:13.05 | jacques | yep |
| 11:13.42 | jacques | I'm trying anyway - just removed the gcc-cross stamps and work dir |
| 11:13.55 | rwhitby | yeah. me too |
| 11:14.37 | jacques | but I really think it's some loop like what you found |
| 11:15.00 | jacques | that's almost always the cause of too many open files, non-trivial symlink loops |
| 11:15.36 | rwhitby | yeah, but if nothing else in gcc uses pthreads, then it won't bit us |
| 11:15.36 | rwhitby | s/bit/bite/ |
| 11:15.37 | jacques | ah lol I didn't even think of that |
| 11:16.07 | rwhitby | "and the doctor replied: Don't do that" |
| 11:17.23 | jacques | makes perfect sense - the only "big" change in the relavant parts of oe lately that pb could think of was the enabling of javac |
| 11:18.20 | rwhitby | dyoung: at least the "where's telnet" questions can be easily answered by an FAQ, and we can make it a banning offence to ask that question .... |
| 11:19.25 | rwhitby | jacques: you testing 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 ? |
| 11:19.49 | dyoung | So this sounds like Unslung-5.x now eh |
| 11:19.58 | jacques | rwhitby, 3.4.4 |
| 11:20.24 | rwhitby | dyoung: yeah, Unslung 5.x "Dumbed down for the masses" |
| 11:20.29 | dyoung | Yeah. |
| 11:20.37 | rwhitby | C'est la vie |
| 11:21.02 | dyoung | Thats okay, if youre "hardcore" enough, you will already have serial. |
| 11:22.44 | jacques | rwhitby, it got past gcc-cross |
| 11:23.15 | jacques | still going, it's on unslung-kernel now |
| 11:23.25 | rwhitby | looks promising then |
| 11:23.32 | jacques | yep |
| 11:24.37 | dyoung | btw, anyone mind a change to unslung-kernel_2.3r25.bb to have the CMDLINE_ROOT from a = to ?= construct? |
| 11:25.22 | rwhitby | good plan |
| 11:25.30 | jacques | cool |
| 11:25.37 | rwhitby | we need a 2.3r29.bb too |
| 11:25.48 | rwhitby | I put the tar file up on nslu.sf.net a long time ago |
| 11:26.03 | jacques | what does r29 get us? |
| 11:26.07 | rwhitby | we just need to add the kernel change |
| 11:26.17 | dyoung | I want to be able to test fatslug configurations for unslung too. |
| 11:26.20 | rwhitby | jacques: a new version number on the web pages |
| 11:26.33 | rwhitby | and any mods that Linksys has done to it's binaries |
| 11:26.36 | dyoung | The only thing about r29 which I oppose is the crappy Genesys patch. |
| 11:26.55 | rwhitby | How about the 4000 -> 2000 interrupt rate patch? |
| 11:27.04 | rwhitby | (I agree about the Genesys patch - we do that better) |
| 11:29.37 | dyoung | I think the 4k vs 2k patch warrants furthur investigation. |
| 11:29.37 | rwhitby | dyoung: ok, the next version is 5.1 - let's get started on it .... |
| 11:29.38 | dyoung | I mean if we're getting to that level of hacking and modding, should we just patch it to not poll that way, and be interrupt driven like how we patche dopenslung? |
| 11:29.42 | rwhitby | yeah - we can do that now that we have the click-through |
| 11:32.35 | jacques | NOTE: build 200506050412: completed |
| 11:32.58 | rwhitby | cool - will you let pb_ know? |
| 11:33.08 | CIA-8 | 03dereky 07 * r1.3422 10openembedded/packages/linux/unslung-kernel_2.3r25.bb: |
| 11:33.08 | CIA-8 | unslung-kernel_2.3r25.bb: |
| 11:33.08 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.34 | dyoung | is the nslu2-linux.bkbits.net repo current now? |
| 11:34.40 | jacques | rwhitby, will do |
| 11:34.48 | rwhitby | dyoung: yep |
| 11:35.08 | dyoung | ok, I can fire off a build before going to sleep. any preferences? |
| 11:35.21 | rwhitby | dyoung: I'm creating r29 versions of stuff now ... |
| 11:36.25 | dyoung | Okay, I'll build unslung for now. |
| 11:40.12 | copperbeech | ~jbot, seen jp30 |
| 11:42.46 | jbot | jp30 <~jp30@jp30.nslu2-linux> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 13h 47m 48s ago, saying: 'hi, copperbeech'. |
| 11:42.47 | dyoung | jp30 is on holiday. |
| 11:42.47 | dyoung | oop, not holiday. On travel. |
| 11:42.47 | dyoung | and may be unavailable for a while. |
| 11:42.47 | copperbeech | I think I'm destines to keep missing him :-) |
| 11:42.47 | copperbeech | destines = destined |
| 11:43.03 | rwhitby | ooh - that's spooky |
| 11:43.43 | dyoung | Moment of truth. gcc-cross.... |
| 11:44.11 | jacques | :-\ |
| 11:44.53 | dyoung | I think I'm gonna have to shutdown prodslug-2 |
| 11:45.01 | dyoung | ts drive is driving me batty. |
| 11:45.07 | dyoung | ^I |
| 11:46.00 | dyoung | Im not sure whats worse. The whine of the drive, or the whine of tinnitus (wearing earplugs) |
| 11:47.52 | jacques | what did you do to your ears? |
| 11:49.16 | dyoung | Hmm... I'm not sure what broke the camels back. |
| 11:49.28 | dyoung | it was probably working in the commercial audio industry some years ago though. |
| 11:49.38 | dyoung | Big Bass. |
| 11:49.43 | dyoung | Boom Boom Boom. |
| 11:50.09 | dyoung | Yo. This right here is not a a test. Yo. |
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| 11:50.57 | jacques | :-( |
| 11:51.02 | dyoung | Either that, or the constant hum of A/C at the office... |
| 11:51.08 | ew01 | hi all |
| 11:51.32 | dyoung | I've had it for a while though; but it only shows its ugly head when its totally silent. |
| 11:54.22 | dyoung | Mr Hammond does make a good point. |
| 11:54.22 | jacques | my left ear has a problem because my brother set off a firework too close to it one time by accident |
| 11:55.31 | dyoung | I wonder if we should do something similar to Oleg, and make ipkg unavailble and have the unsling script ipkg-cl install ipkg or something. |
| 11:55.53 | dyoung | jacques, Hmm, it coule be from that too... Blowing stuff up without ear protection..... |
| 11:56.10 | dyoung | But either way, now that I'm older I wish I didnt have the issue! |
| 11:56.24 | jacques | the only time I really notice it is with really loud sounds, like gunshots |
| 11:56.45 | jacques | these days I am pretty careful about my ears |
| 11:56.50 | dyoung | gcc-cross finshed. |
| 11:57.44 | dyoung | jacques, me too. I try to wear the earplugs you stuff into your ear, PLUS the mickey mouse ears when going into sorta noisy places like engine rooms. |
| 11:58.23 | jacques | i have some nice gell filled ear muffs I use |
| 11:58.35 | jacques | 29dB attenuation IIRC |
| 11:58.59 | dyoung | Nice. |
| 12:00.53 | dyoung | most of my mickey mouse ears are Govt Surplus. |
| 12:04.43 | dyoung | http://www.fg-ind.com/intro-handsignals.html becomes useful. :-) |
| 12:05.52 | dyoung | I dont remember the other ones though.... |
| 12:06.08 | rwhitby | dyoung: just leaving off the ipkg->ipkg-cl link will be fine, and we'll make unsling add it to the external rootfs |
| 12:06.20 | jacques | yeah I had to learn all those when I worked maintenance at the refinery |
| 12:06.57 | dyoung | rwhitby, Okay, so the end-user will get what the firmware provides, and not neccessarily the latest/greatest? |
| 12:07.24 | rwhitby | dyoung: what do you mean? |
| 12:07.32 | rwhitby | oh, as far as ipkg version goes? |
| 12:07.35 | dyoung | right. |
| 12:11.12 | dyoung | I only bring this up because of the recent ipkg "oops". |
| 12:11.34 | dyoung | night jacques. |
| 12:11.38 | rwhitby | I don't think we can successfully ipkg upgrade ipkg for unslung |
| 12:12.32 | rwhitby | and we haven't needed to so far |
| 12:12.50 | rwhitby | the "oops" was just that, an "oops". not a sign of anything broken |
| 12:13.14 | rwhitby | night jacques, thx for the gcc help |
| 12:14.24 | rwhitby | so for r29 stuff, should I just bk mv any foo-2.3r25 directories to just foo (so they will be searched by both _2.3r25.bb and _2.3r29.bb files) or make a complete copy of each foo-2.3r25 to foo-2.3r29 ? |
| 12:17.19 | dyoung | based on Tiersten's diff, I think the former is probably ok. |
| 12:18.16 | rwhitby | so we just have some extra diff files, which are only included in the kernel r29.bb ? |
| 12:18.34 | dyoung | I was kind of thinking that a ipkg-cl upgrade ipkg might be a "feature" because it will ensure that the settings are already correct for when the user really does a ipkg update. But I guess its kinda superfluous. |
| 12:19.56 | dyoung | I suppose to be cleaner, iti might be better to copy the whole stuff to foo-2.3R29. |
| 12:20.03 | dyoung | but I'm not sure. |
| 12:20.04 | rwhitby | I'm not sure how we would introduce that kind of thing without having to separate feeds for old and new firmware (pre change and post change) - otherwise we get the "oops" happening again for the pre change firmware. |
| 12:21.35 | rwhitby | I think I'll remove the version, cause I think as is the case for the genesys patch that we'd only ever add our versions of kernel patches |
| 12:21.38 | dyoung | Oh yeah. To keep it simple, the suggestion of generating the link in unsling is probably better. |
| 12:23.59 | dyoung | I'm following jacques lead. |
| 12:24.10 | rwhitby | night dyoung-logger |
| 12:25.26 | dyoung-zzzz | My unslung build completed successfully. |
| 12:32.01 | rwhitby | 5.1 will be released tonight. It will probably be non-functional, but it's a place to start. |
| 12:38.43 | rwhitby | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungFeatures has the proposed 5.x features. |
| 12:40.42 | rwhitby | Most will not be there tonight |
| 12:47.01 | rwhitby | anyone remember where Tiersten put the R25->R29 kernel patch? |
| 12:48.40 | rwhitby | nm - someone else can add it to the .bb while I sleep tonight :-) |
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| 13:18.26 | rwhitby-away | ok, that's 5.1-alpha ready for others to bash on ... first thing is for someone to add Tiersten's kernel patch (if there is anything other than the Genesys patch or the IXP interrupt rate). If not, then all we need to do is build the interrupt-driven IXP and add that. |
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| 14:12.29 | rwhitby | Tiersten: ping |
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| 14:20.02 | rwhitby | ok, don't try flashing 5.1-alpha, as it panics. |
| 14:20.20 | Tiersten_ | hey |
| 14:20.22 | Tiersten_ | whats up? |
| 14:20.45 | rwhitby | just wondering where you put that R25 to R29 kernel patch? |
| 14:21.10 | Tiersten_ | http://www.trejan.com/projects/nslu2/linux-kernel-R25_to_R29.patch |
| 14:21.14 | Tiersten_ | Best to host that on SF or something |
| 14:21.34 | Tiersten_ | There really isn't anything particularly significant they've changed apart from the hack for the Genesys stuff |
| 14:22.00 | Tiersten_ | A couple more Maxtor OneTouch IDs and they've fiddled with the IXP driver slightly |
| 14:22.09 | rwhitby | -bash-2.05b$ wget http://www.trejan.com/projects/nslu2/linux-kernel-R25_to_R29.patch |
| 14:22.09 | rwhitby | --07:21:49-- http://www.trejan.com/projects/nslu2/linux-kernel-R25_to_R29.patch |
| 14:22.09 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.09 | rwhitby | Resolving www.trejan.com... 216.167.90.227 |
| 14:22.10 | rwhitby | Connecting to www.trejan.com[216.167.90.227]:80... failed: Connection refused. |
| 14:22.16 | Tiersten_ | odd |
| 14:22.21 | rwhitby | that's from sf.net |
| 14:23.16 | Tiersten_ | That's SF |
| 14:23.18 | Tiersten_ | Nothing to do with me |
| 14:23.34 | rwhitby | yeah, I just realised that. |
| 14:23.37 | Tiersten_ | It blocks other sites as well. Just tried intel.com, nslu2-linux.org, google.com etc... |
| 14:23.39 | Tiersten_ | I'll upload it |
| 14:24.04 | rwhitby | doing that now |
| 14:24.07 | rwhitby | done |
| 14:24.38 | rwhitby | http://nslu.sf.net/downloads/linux-kernel-R25_to_R29.patch |
| 14:24.58 | Tiersten_ | uh. wget doesn't work :) |
| 14:25.00 | Tiersten_ | I'll upload it |
| 14:25.08 | rwhitby | k |
| 14:25.39 | Tiersten_ | Okay. Done |
| 14:26.20 | Tiersten_ | I'm curious about one of the IXP changes however |
| 14:26.27 | Tiersten_ | "Our board only one Ethernet port. And this port connect to PHY 2 while we call this port ixp0. So we need to cross port 1 and 2. " |
| 14:27.13 | rwhitby | yeah |
| 14:28.58 | rwhitby | wonder if that phy address swap fixes the errors that it prints on boot regarding MII stuff |
| 14:30.37 | Tiersten | No. It won't fix that |
| 14:30.52 | Tiersten | There is a table of known (to the driver) PHY IDs |
| 14:31.00 | Tiersten | The specific one that is used in the NSLU2 isn't in that list |
| 14:31.34 | Tiersten | We could add it in and then put some of the PHY specific initialisations in but don't' know if it's worth the time |
| 14:32.16 | rwhitby | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00 |
| 14:32.18 | rwhitby | :-( |
| 14:32.29 | Tiersten | What was changed in 5.x? |
| 14:32.41 | rwhitby | I updated to R29 |
| 14:32.42 | Tiersten | Oh yeah. I don't know if any of the Linksys binaries have changed between R25 and R29 |
| 14:32.51 | Tiersten | Updated what? |
| 14:32.56 | rwhitby | just the ramdisk image |
| 14:33.02 | rwhitby | (which includes all the binaries) |
| 14:33.02 | Tiersten | ah |
| 14:33.31 | Tiersten | It's not even able to load the ramdisk though? |
| 14:33.46 | rwhitby | But we will be doing the following: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungFeatures |
| 14:34.17 | Tiersten | Yeah. Saw your post easlier |
| 14:34.19 | Tiersten | earlier |
| 14:34.36 | rwhitby | Hmm - it shouldn't even be trying to boot from ramdisk. I suspect PEBKAC. |
| 14:34.57 | Tiersten | Let me find out what was changed in the binaries in R29 |
| 14:35.36 | rwhitby | ah - I think dyoung's CMDLINE_ROOT has broken it |
| 14:36.36 | rwhitby | Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200n8 root=/dev/ram0 initrd=0x01000000,10M mem=32M@0x00000000 |
| 14:37.13 | rwhitby | that comes from nslu2-linksys-kernel_2.4.22.bb |
| 14:37.25 | rwhitby | and is not overridden anymore due to the ?= that dyoung added. |
| 14:39.22 | rwhitby | Fixed. Wonder why CIA is not reporting bk pushes here ... |
| 14:39.46 | Tiersten | It was working earlier? |
| 14:40.14 | Tiersten | The last one from it in my logs was about 1:40 hours ago |
| 14:40.24 | rwhitby | dyoung got one through |
| 14:40.35 | rwhitby | last couple of mine haven't come through |
| 14:40.42 | Tiersten | odd |
| 14:41.24 | Tiersten | It boot now? |
| 14:41.30 | rwhitby | still compiling |
| 14:41.35 | Tiersten | k |
| 14:47.51 | rwhitby | I'm starting to like this SerComm upgrade tool ... |
| 14:49.18 | Tiersten | heh |
| 14:49.38 | rwhitby | it's the little bar graph which makes it .. |
| 14:49.50 | rwhitby | and the verify step |
| 14:49.56 | rwhitby | it's so reassuring :-) |
| 14:50.34 | rwhitby | upslug: no slugs found, turkey problems? |
| 14:50.57 | rwhitby | upslug won't work through VMWare NAT and a wireless LAN |
| 14:52.04 | Tiersten | It should work over wireless LAN but it won't work over NAT |
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| 14:53.28 | rwhitby | ixp425_eth: ixp0 is using the PHY at address 1 |
| 14:53.28 | rwhitby | ixp425_eth: ixp1 is using the PHY at address 0 |
| 14:53.43 | Tiersten | Yeah. Thats what they changed. Is it still using ixp0 though? |
| 14:53.46 | rwhitby | I guess I've got that patch already, cause we use the Linksys binary ixp module |
| 14:53.51 | Tiersten | ah |
| 14:53.54 | Tiersten | yeah |
| 14:53.56 | rwhitby | yep |
| 14:54.15 | Tiersten | TBH we don't really need the R29 patch at all |
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| 14:54.42 | rwhitby | apart from the Maxtor ids |
| 14:55.04 | Tiersten | Yeah |
| 14:55.14 | rwhitby | which could be the reason why one guy on the mailing list said that Unslung didn't work for his disk |
| 14:55.31 | Tiersten | No. The OneTouch stuff is so it handles those buttons on the front |
| 14:55.33 | rwhitby | in fact, I would suspect that is the only reason why R29 was released - to continue the Maxtor compatibility |
| 14:55.55 | ka6sox | hi |
| 14:55.58 | Tiersten | Otherwise it appears as a standard USB mass storage device |
| 14:55.59 | rwhitby | ka6sox: hi |
| 14:56.09 | ka6sox | everything going smooth? |
| 14:56.13 | Tiersten | It adds some stuff to hook into the button (and LED?) on the front of the Maxtor |
| 14:56.17 | Tiersten | Hi ka6sox |
| 14:56.31 | ka6sox | morning Tiersten |
| 14:56.37 | Tiersten | R29 fixes large transfers as well apparently |
| 14:56.38 | Tiersten | "Fixed large file lockup issue caused by files larger than 1GB being transfered across the network." |
| 14:56.53 | Tiersten | That's all they've got in the release notes for R29 from R25 |
| 14:56.56 | rwhitby | that could only be the polling interval |
| 14:57.21 | Tiersten | I'm more thinking one of the binaries |
| 14:57.30 | Tiersten | dunno. Need to check |
| 14:57.47 | rwhitby | anyway, we have the new binaries in 5.1 now |
| 14:57.50 | rwhitby | and it boots fine |
| 14:57.54 | Tiersten | cool |
| 14:58.14 | rwhitby | that was much easier than I thought it was going to be |
| 14:58.35 | rwhitby | someone just needs to add the unusual_devices patch and we'll be golden. |
| 15:00.09 | rwhitby | we need dropbear added to the base image, so that you can copy ipks to a slug which doesn't have net connectivity |
| 15:00.29 | Tiersten | I'll split out the usual devices patch |
| 15:00.32 | Tiersten | unusual_devices |
| 15:00.58 | rwhitby | thx Tiersten |
| 15:01.25 | Tiersten | hrm |
| 15:01.29 | Tiersten | there are loads of differences |
| 15:01.56 | rwhitby | Now that I've put down the infrastructure, I'll let others flesh it out while I sleep .... |
| 15:02.05 | Tiersten | Night |
| 15:02.10 | rwhitby-asleep | you mean in the binaries? |
| 15:02.12 | ka6sox | we will have to see if UpSlug works on OSX Macs if we are going to remove Maintainence mode. |
| 15:02.14 | Tiersten | yeah |
| 15:02.17 | Tiersten | Busybox is different for one |
| 15:02.21 | Tiersten | It's slightly bigger |
| 15:02.21 | rwhitby-asleep | other than just a recompile maybe? |
| 15:02.28 | Tiersten | Nearly all the binaries are different |
| 15:02.36 | Tiersten | Not sure. I need to compare version numbers |
| 15:02.39 | rwhitby-asleep | yeah, I figured it was a recompile |
| 15:02.50 | rwhitby-asleep | ka6sox: nod |
| 15:02.51 | Tiersten | They've added something to handle the onetouch as well |
| 15:02.59 | rwhitby-asleep | and removed telnetd |
| 15:03.03 | Tiersten | Yeah |
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| 15:03.16 | rwhitby-asleep | heh - that means 5.1 doesn't have telnet and is serial-only at the moment :-) |
| 15:03.27 | Tiersten | heh. Easy enough to extract telnet |
| 15:03.46 | rwhitby-asleep | just add it to slingbox |
| 15:03.53 | rwhitby-asleep | or leave it out :-) |
| 15:04.01 | ka6sox | too insecure |
| 15:04.24 | rwhitby-asleep | Firmware Version: V2.3R29-uNSLUng-5.1-alpha |
| 15:05.57 | root_ | hi, was there something changed with the libc the last few days? |
| 15:06.14 | rwhitby-asleep | ah, hang on. I think I added telnetd to the R29 ramdisk image that I put up on sf.net, cause telnetd is there. |
| 15:06.26 | Tiersten | root_: Not that I know of |
| 15:06.44 | Tiersten | busybox is the same version and was compiled with the same version of GCC. Still don't know why it's slightly bigger |
| 15:07.06 | rwhitby-asleep | yeah, 5.1 is telnetd-enabled, same as before. |
| 15:07.12 | root_ | ups, wrong name, will be back with a better one :) |
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| 15:07.57 | mr_claus | Tiersten: where i can take a look into cvs? |
| 15:08.22 | rwhitby-asleep | cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/nslu |
| 15:08.29 | rwhitby-asleep | co unslung |
| 15:08.39 | rwhitby-asleep | (assuming you're looking for Unslung packages, not the firmware) |
| 15:08.59 | mr_claus | is there a webclient available to take a look into cvs and the changes? |
| 15:09.08 | rwhitby-asleep | sf.net |
| 15:09.17 | rwhitby-asleep | projects/nslu |
| 15:10.21 | mr_claus | ok, thx |
| 15:10.24 | ka6sox | nitey |
| 15:11.20 | mr_claus | ahh, jp30 checked in ldconfig :) |
| 15:11.22 | mr_claus | nice |
| 15:12.43 | Tiersten | Binaries that have changed are: /bin/busybox, /etc/rc.d/rc.bootbin, /home/httpd/html/index.cgi, /home/httpd/html/Management/setup.cgi, /lib/libhd.so, /lib/modules/2.4.22-xfs/kernel/drivers/net/ixp425_eth.o, /sbin/fdisk, /usr/sbin/QuickSet, /usr/sbin/upnpd and /usr/sbin/USB_Detect |
| 15:13.14 | Tiersten | The IXP module differences are because they did that patch |
| 15:14.00 | ka6sox | but not v1.5 of IXP? |
| 15:14.04 | Tiersten | No |
| 15:14.07 | Tiersten | Still 1.3 |
| 15:14.07 | ka6sox | k |
| 15:14.22 | ka6sox | redboot still the same? |
| 15:15.09 | Tiersten | I assume so. It doesn't get flashed anyway |
| 15:15.20 | ka6sox | yeah. |
| 15:15.52 | mr_claus | Upgrading findutils on root from 4.1.20-r0 to 4.1.20-r1... |
| 15:15.52 | mr_claus | Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/oe/findutils_4.1.20-r1_armeb.ipk |
| 15:16.04 | mr_claus | ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-k2ho5m http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/oe/findutils_4.1.20-r1_armeb.ipk' |
| 15:16.17 | mr_claus | any ideas why i get that error? |
| 15:16.36 | mr_claus | i have run ipkg update before |
| 15:16.54 | Tiersten | rwhitby posted about this on the mailing list. It's a known issue. Remove the OE feed |
| 15:17.31 | mr_claus | ok |
| 15:18.07 | mr_claus | whats up with packages i have installed from this source? |
| 15:18.30 | Tiersten | *shrug* Look in the mailing list. I've not been tracking the status of Unslung |
| 15:18.57 | Tiersten | R29 adds /usr/sbin/onetouch_detect and modifies /etc/rc.d/rc.quickset to run it at start up |
| 15:19.18 | Tiersten | R29 removes /home/httpd/html/Management/telnet.cgi, /home/httpd/html/Management/telnet.htm and /usr/sbin/telnetd which we already know about |
| 15:19.37 | Tiersten | R29 fixes a typo in /home/httpd/html/home.htm |
| 15:20.03 | Tiersten | And just generally updates a couple of files which have the version numbers in |
| 15:20.35 | Tiersten | That along with the kernel changes are the sum total of R25 -> R29 |
| 15:21.38 | ka6sox | same kernel? |
| 15:21.42 | ka6sox | 2.4.22? |
| 15:21.51 | Tiersten | Same version yeah but with some minor patches |
| 15:22.30 | Tiersten | Changes the poll rate in the IXP driver, swaps around the PHY addresses, adds two new Maxtor OneTouch IDs and a hack for the Genesys chips |
| 15:22.55 | mr_claus | i have a structural question, it's nice to copy the / -> /share/hdd/data but it would nicer to copy it to /share/hdd/data/unslung and mount /share/hdd/data/unslung as root because all dirs in the data partition now mixed up with the data dirs |
| 15:27.09 | Tiersten | mr_claus: Probably a better idea to post it to the mailing list |
| 15:28.04 | CIA-8 | 03caplink811 * 10unslung/sources/sysstat/rc.sysstat: initial checkin |
| 15:28.33 | CIA-8 | 03caplink811 * 10unslung/sources/sysstat/postinst: initial checkin |
| 15:31.49 | CIA-8 | 03caplink811 * 10unslung/make/sysstat.mk: makefile is now able to build the source, and the final ipk |
| 15:37.05 | CompBrain | Anyone have a cross compiliation enviorment they'd be willing to compile MPD (musicpd.org) for me? |
| 15:37.14 | CompBrain | I'd be willing to pay |
| 15:42.11 | bofh_omega | CompBrain: -v (what system arch do you need, what libs are you using....) |
| 15:43.43 | mr_claus | i think the nslu2 hardware |
| 15:45.22 | bofh_omega | hehe, maybe good guess ;) Now we only need to guess the libs |
| 15:57.34 | bofh_omega | next guess would be what should mpd support (which kind of audio files) |
| 16:10.46 | bofh_omega | its compiled now (with mp3 and id3tag support) |
| 16:12.10 | bofh_omega | whats my price ;) and where do you want me to send it to? |
| 16:13.15 | bofh_omega | you'll need libnsl.so.0 libm.so.0 libz.so.1 libc.so.0 libgcc_s.so.1 ld-uClibc.so.0 |
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| 16:42.47 | garpinc | Anyone a round? |
| 16:47.43 | garpinc | I tried to do upgrade to 4.x but when I disconnect both hard drives and try to boot up I never get access to web interface. Does anyone have any ideas? |
| 16:50.13 | bofh_omega | try ips 192.168.0.1 192.168.1.77 |
| 16:52.36 | garpinc | I did but I will try it again... |
| 16:53.25 | bofh_omega | and for shure your regular IP ;) |
| 16:53.47 | garpinc | The regular ip is 192.168.1.77 |
| 16:53.51 | bofh_omega | k ;) |
| 16:54.40 | bofh_omega | if nothing else helps goto redboot and redo (or wait if someone with more glue tells you what to do) |
| 16:55.49 | garpinc | I'm powering up now... |
| 16:56.12 | garpinc | I also tried to get to redboot and couldn't... |
| 16:56.28 | garpinc | Ok I got the beep |
| 16:56.34 | garpinc | Let me try it.. |
| 16:57.51 | garpinc | neither ip works... |
| 16:58.38 | garpinc | Actually when I try to go to 192.168.0.1 it trys to go to 10.9.95.1 |
| 16:58.45 | garpinc | Any ideas about that? |
| 17:02.03 | bofh_omega | nop, sry but seems a bit wired to mee |
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| 17:03.34 | garpinc | If I show routing tables in router it shows: |
| 17:03.55 | garpinc | 10.9.95.1 with subnetmast 255.255.255.255 |
| 17:04.08 | garpinc | 192.168.1.0 with mask 255.255.255.0 |
| 17:04.29 | garpinc | and 0.0.0.0 with mask 0.0.0 |
| 17:04.42 | garpinc | the first 2 have gateway 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:04.55 | garpinc | and the last has gateway 10.9.95.1 |
| 17:05.02 | garpinc | Does that seem right? |
| 17:10.04 | caplink811 | garpinc: we should step over to #nslu2-general where youre question seems more on topic |
| 17:10.27 | garpinc | That's fine... |
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| 19:21.11 | bofh_omega | is it possible to check an openslug-image befor flashing it? Just to check if it would boot and if the net (dropbear) would work |
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| 19:49.24 | to-pse[1] | Hi everyone, I'm new to this irc-business - so please forgive me any initial wrong-doings ;-) |
| 19:51.59 | to-pse[1] | Is there anyone around here, who can tell me if I can configure the toolchain "crosstool-native" to be able to generate little-endian libraries & executables? |
| 19:52.17 | Tiersten | why do you want to do that? |
| 19:52.33 | Tiersten | If you're not going to do native compilation then you might as well do it on your PC |
| 19:52.59 | to-pse[1] | In addition to my NSLU2 which i have unslung to 4.2 (thanks everyone here involved for a cool job) I got myself a WMA11B media player |
| 19:53.44 | to-pse[1] | I'd like to do a little work on the WMAMP replacement firmware which is also based on the same ARM architecture, but with small endian... |
| 19:54.10 | Tiersten | You will need to recompile GCC & co if you want all of that |
| 19:54.22 | Tiersten | crosstool-native is only for big endian |
| 19:54.34 | Tiersten | You can't switch it on the fly |
| 19:54.37 | to-pse[1] | ok - I thought it might just be some kind of run-time-switch |
| 19:58.12 | Tiersten | GCC does have a switch but I've never used it |
| 19:58.51 | Tiersten | Download crosstool from http://kegel.com/crosstool/ |
| 19:59.10 | Tiersten | The libraries are big endian anyway for crosstool-native |
| 20:00.06 | to-pse[1] | Thanks for the link - I will take a look at the stuff... |
| 20:03.46 | bofh_omega | have a nice day |
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| 22:17.39 | ka6sox | ~seen jbowler |
| 22:17.41 | jbot | jbowler <~jbowler@jbowler.nslu2-linux> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 3d 6h 7m 33s ago, saying: 'etc/init.d/populate-var.sh ?'. |
| 22:18.01 | ka6sox | ~seen jbowler-away |
| 22:18.02 | jbot | jbowler-away is currently on #oe (1d 16h 16m 26s) |
| 22:22.59 | rwhitby | morning ka6sox |
| 22:23.07 | rwhitby | anyone do any work on 5.1 overnight? |
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| 22:47.11 | jacques | howdy Christopher |
| 22:47.18 | dyoung-zzzz | morning everyone. |
| 22:47.22 | Christopher | howdy |
| 22:47.28 | dyoung-zzzz | sorry for the cmdline breakage. |
| 22:47.31 | jacques | howdy dyoung-zzzz |
| 22:47.42 | rwhitby | jacques: you are in a completely opposite timezone to me, but are keeping the same waking hours :-) |
| 22:47.49 | rwhitby | dyoung: np |
| 22:47.59 | jacques | rwhitby, lol I was just thinking the same thing |
| 22:48.03 | dyoung | did I change the wrong one, or is it even possible to have a overridable cmdline ? |
| 22:48.31 | jacques | my allergies are making me sleep more these days :-( |
| 22:48.35 | Christopher | I keep getting this error since I upgraded to unslung 4.20 init: /bin/sh respawning too fast |
| 22:48.44 | rwhitby | dyoung: the trouble is the include of the linksys kernel bb |
| 22:49.56 | Christopher | any ideas? |
| 22:51.07 | dyoung | Christopher, where are you getting that message? |
| 22:51.16 | dyoung | (ie: telnet in, serial, ... ?) |
| 22:51.59 | jacques | it usually means something init is configured to respawn is erroring out, and is getting respawned in a tight loop |
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| 22:52.24 | jacques | you made any changes to your inittab ? |
| 22:52.37 | Christopher_ | nope |
| 22:54.19 | jacques | you do anything "strange" to your serial port? |
| 22:55.32 | Christopher_ | it is connected to my laptop through a USB serial dongle |
| 22:56.22 | jacques | this same hardware worked in the past? connected same way? |
| 22:56.42 | Christopher_ | yes |
| 22:56.57 | jacques | hmm, then offhand I dunno :-\ |
| 22:57.01 | Christopher_ | ok, thanks |
| 22:57.08 | Christopher_ | i'll try to figure it out |
| 22:57.14 | jacques | maybe some other clues in the logs |
| 22:57.26 | Christopher_ | it works if my hardisk os not plugged in to start with |
| 22:57.34 | Christopher_ | s /os /is |
| 23:01.47 | ka6sox | Christopher_bbl, ping |
| 23:01.53 | ka6sox | rats...missed him |
| 23:02.50 | rwhitby | dyoung: have you had any problems getting maintenance mode to work reliably on 4.20? |
| 23:03.29 | rwhitby | It just refuses to do the upgrade for me, due to the memory calculation issue in the uprade.cgi binary |
| 23:03.38 | ka6sox | Christopher_bbl, do you know if anyone has tested UpSlug with OSX? |
| 23:03.47 | rwhitby | anyone here got comments on the maintenance mode debate? |
| 23:10.04 | rwhitby | the channel goes strangely silent .... |
| 23:11.20 | Tiersten | My opinion is that ideally we should keep the maint mode stuff but it would require writing our own versions of the Linksys apps which we really should do anyway. The short term method I guess is to do what you propose and do away with it all. |
| 23:12.49 | Tiersten | Getting rid of the ability to do a network upgrade without having to plug the NSLU2 in directly is a big annoyance |
| 23:13.28 | rwhitby | Tiersten: I've done a number of upgrade mode upgrades in the last 24 hours wirelessly |
| 23:13.48 | ka6sox | my concern is for the people who have OSX machines (and NO peecee's) |
| 23:13.58 | Tiersten | Whats wrong with upslug? |
| 23:14.02 | Tiersten | (Not tried it) |
| 23:14.06 | ka6sox | dunno if it runs on OSX |
| 23:14.08 | rwhitby | just haven't confirmed it yet |
| 23:14.13 | ka6sox | correct |
| 23:14.15 | rwhitby | should be no reason why it wouldn't work |
| 23:14.17 | Tiersten | rwhitby: Wireless should be fine. It's people trying to use NAT along the line that will break it |
| 23:14.37 | ka6sox | Tiersten, that is every cable/dsl user |
| 23:14.39 | Tiersten | It's unlikely that somebody will have NAT within their own network anyway unless you're doing something with VMware/VirtualPC etc... |
| 23:14.48 | Tiersten | No. Within their network |
| 23:14.48 | rwhitby | ah, right. yeah |
| 23:14.52 | ka6sox | ah |
| 23:14.53 | Tiersten | You have NAT inside your network?? |
| 23:14.59 | ka6sox | VPC |
| 23:15.43 | Tiersten | If upslug works then we don't need VirtualPC/VMware etc |
| 23:15.43 | ka6sox | true |
| 23:15.43 | Tiersten | Probably could slap a GUI on it using WxWidgets then people won't be scared off by the command line interface |
| 23:15.44 | ka6sox | as soon as I can get ahold of Christopher I'll ask |
| 23:16.39 | rwhitby | back later |
| 23:16.53 | ka6sox | and Linux PPC also. |
| 23:17.36 | Tiersten | If he wrote it properly then it should work with no problems under any version of Linux that has an ethernet interface |
| 23:18.13 | Tiersten | It's whether OSX has the same socket interface that is the issue. I don't see why it wouldn't work. He doesn't seem to be doing anything odd or special to Linux |
| 23:20.39 | ka6sox | okay cool |
| 23:21.40 | dyoung | it doesnt compile for lack of netpacket.h |
| 23:21.55 | dyoung | netpacket/packet.h |
| 23:22.20 | Tiersten | You got sockaddr_ll in OSX? |
| 23:22.27 | dyoung | beats me. |
| 23:22.33 | dyoung | how do I check? |
| 23:22.47 | Tiersten | I'll do it |
| 23:23.01 | ka6sox | Tiersten, you got your Mini? |
| 23:23.10 | Tiersten | Got it ages ago |
| 23:23.13 | ka6sox | k |
| 23:24.53 | Tiersten | hmm. how do you do AF_PACKET or equiv under a Mac... |
| 23:25.10 | dyoung | I dunno, I did some grepping around and didnt find AF_PACKET anyplace. |
| 23:25.13 | Tiersten | well. without a working upslug then the getting rid of maint mode idea is dead |
| 23:25.26 | Tiersten | unless we're happy to only allow Windows and Linux users to use Unslung... |
| 23:25.34 | Tiersten | Or have to use redboot directly which is a bit much |
| 23:25.35 | ka6sox | :P |
| 23:25.55 | ka6sox | the telnet is tough to catch Redboot fast enough |
| 23:26.09 | Tiersten | See.... Annoying Mac users! ;) |
| 23:26.16 | ka6sox | heh |
| 23:26.54 | ka6sox | there is enough *stuff* in the world that only Speaks Doze. |
| 23:35.17 | ka6sox | other than OSX users not being able to program Unslung no other reason NOT to take out Maint mode. |
| 23:35.46 | Tiersten | won't that annoy people who use a Mac? |
| 23:40.02 | dyoung | looks like some contionals in upslug to use BPF calls may work. |
| 23:40.11 | dyoung | but I dont really want to look at it right now. |
| 23:40.21 | Tiersten | I was thinking about using pcap or another library to provide the abstraction layer |
| 23:40.37 | Tiersten | It'd be a pain to have a billion different ifdefs just to handle everything |