| 00:15.52 | Christopher | [g2] which company are you using? |
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| 00:23.49 | dyoung-web | okay that just piqued my interest. |
| 00:24.14 | dyoung-web | so [g2], setting the log2_irq_thresh to an appropriate number should help the problem? |
| 00:34.06 | dyoung-web | Also, you might be referring to the Link Instruments device. |
| 00:37.52 | dyoung-web | back later |
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| 01:39.01 | [g2] | Christopher, I live near Raleigh NC. There are lots of companies around here that do rework for IBM, Cicso, etc.... |
| 01:39.06 | [g2] | it's a local company |
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| 07:28.40 | MooZ | hi |
| 09:17.10 | rwhitby-away | anything interesting happen in the last 18 hours? |
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| 09:24.35 | MooZ | hum... i put a usb flash disk with 2 ext3 partitions and i got log messages complaining about inexistant vfat partition. i think i need to read some doc :) apart from that... nothing |
| 09:46.59 | dyoung-zzzz | jbowler significantly improved Openslug-Veggie. |
| 09:47.46 | dyoung-zzzz | turnup has arguments now. |
| 09:47.53 | dyoung-zzzz | and the LED do something kinda smart. |
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| 13:35.14 | kitno455 | re |
| 13:38.48 | dyoung-zzzz | morning kitno455 |
| 13:39.29 | kitno455 | trying to build openslug for first time |
| 13:39.41 | kitno455 | where do i put the flex bz2? |
| 13:39.41 | dyoung-zzzz | hows it going? |
| 13:39.57 | kitno455 | dont understand dir structure of oe/bb |
| 13:40.07 | dyoung-zzzz | do you mean the source for flex? |
| 13:40.10 | kitno455 | yes |
| 13:40.14 | kitno455 | it craps out |
| 13:40.20 | kitno455 | i found it google |
| 13:40.25 | dyoung-zzzz | in whereever your download directory is set to. |
| 13:40.30 | kitno455 | do i put in sources? |
| 13:40.39 | kitno455 | what defines download dir? |
| 13:40.55 | kitno455 | env var? |
| 13:40.57 | dyoung-zzzz | are you building from a bk pull, or from the svn snapshot? |
| 13:41.17 | kitno455 | i used bk to get openemb. and svn to get bb |
| 13:41.32 | kitno455 | which should i use? |
| 13:41.40 | dyoung-zzzz | Either way, its DL_DIR sete via env var, and that is usually set in your local.conf |
| 13:41.54 | dyoung-zzzz | bk is up to the minute, the svn snapshot is now around a week old. |
| 13:42.16 | kitno455 | dont like the bk license much, but i can work with it |
| 13:42.27 | dyoung-zzzz | at this point, its temporary. |
| 13:42.35 | kitno455 | yeah, no kidding |
| 13:43.22 | kitno455 | ok, my DL_ROOT is ${OEROOT}/sources |
| 13:43.35 | kitno455 | where do the .md5 files comefrom? |
| 13:43.35 | dyoung-zzzz | DL_DIR ? |
| 13:43.44 | kitno455 | yeah, your right |
| 13:43.49 | kitno455 | you're |
| 13:43.57 | dyoung-zzzz | Yeah, ok so you you can stuff it in there. |
| 13:44.02 | dyoung-zzzz | the md5sum comes from bitbake |
| 13:44.32 | kitno455 | made by bitbake and compared to what? |
| 13:44.36 | dyoung-zzzz | but you can ignore it, or md5sum flex.foo > flex.foo.md5 |
| 13:45.00 | dyoung-zzzz | I think some things have it in their respective bitbake file(s), but I dunno. |
| 13:45.01 | dyoung-zzzz | for sure. |
| 13:45.38 | kitno455 | ok, Handling BitBake files: (again) |
| 13:45.50 | dyoung-zzzz | All that I do know for sure right now is I'm about to pass out. :-) |
| 13:45.54 | dyoung-zzzz | good luck! |
| 13:45.59 | kitno455 | adios |
| 13:46.34 | dyoung-zzzz | I think the SlugSlayer is lurking, he should be able to give you a hand if you run into additional issues. |
| 13:46.34 | kitno455 | going to try to get libusb working, heard there were some endianness issues |
| 13:46.52 | kitno455 | right. thanks |
| 13:47.17 | dyoung-zzzz | peteru took a crack at it, but he gave up. |
| 13:47.25 | dyoung-zzzz | someone else claims it works. |
| 13:47.34 | dyoung-zzzz | so the status for libusb right now is "unknown". |
| 13:47.43 | kitno455 | i tried it months ago on snapgear on the slug |
| 13:47.52 | kitno455 | lots of weirdness |
| 13:48.06 | dyoung-zzzz | You know about the wiki right? |
| 13:48.23 | kitno455 | i know where is it is. more specific? |
| 13:48.40 | dyoung-zzzz | No, I was wondering if you knew of its existence. |
| 13:48.48 | dyoung-zzzz | Its been so long, I dont remember who knows what anymore. :-) |
| 13:48.51 | kitno455 | yes, that is where i got openslud directions |
| 13:49.02 | kitno455 | if you mean nslu2-linux.org |
| 13:49.08 | dyoung-zzzz | yeah, that wiki. |
| 13:49.10 | kitno455 | slud, huh huh |
| 13:49.47 | dyoung-zzzz | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/Libusb is what I was thinking of.... |
| 13:50.01 | kitno455 | had not seen that. looking now |
| 13:50.04 | dyoung-zzzz | the patch was submitted by the camera guy. |
| 13:50.32 | kitno455 | ok, actually, i have that in an email from the camera guy to try it myself |
| 13:50.35 | dyoung-zzzz | but I dunno what it does... |
| 13:50.45 | kitno455 | just started looking at it myself |
| 13:51.01 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay have fun! |
| 13:51.05 | kitno455 | why does Handling BitBake files take so long...... |
| 13:51.43 | dyoung-zzzz | The first time you run it it takes a while beacause its parsing all of the bb files in the tree. |
| 13:51.59 | dyoung-zzzz | once you have a tmp/cache, it should be a little better. |
| 13:52.11 | kitno455 | go to bed, my questions are not important.... |
| 13:53.09 | dyoung-zzzz | ok done. :-) |
| 13:53.35 | kitno455 | my wife wont let me type in bed :) |
| 13:53.43 | kitno455 | you're lucky :) |
| 13:58.09 | dyoung-zzzz | actually, before I do that... We're recruiting talented hardware folk (such as yourself) in #openjtag... some of the usual suspects are there. |
| 13:59.03 | dyoung-zzzz | (my wife right now is vaporware, so I dont have that particular issue.) :-) |
| 13:59.06 | [g2] | kitno455, I've also got a Custom Knoppix that can build OpenSlug and Unslung |
| 13:59.24 | kitno455 | dude, i weld racecar frames and hang sheetrock, i dont know squat about jtag |
| 13:59.58 | [g2] | I love it! |
| 14:00.15 | dyoung-zzzz | Well, you know enough to heatgun the crap out of a nslu2, thats good enough for us. :-) |
| 14:00.26 | kitno455 | you should see the board now. |
| 14:00.32 | kitno455 | i warped it :) |
| 14:00.52 | dyoung-zzzz | But not too much as not to be able to trace the traces. |
| 14:00.54 | dyoung-zzzz | heh |
| 14:01.02 | kitno455 | i did get the device side usb port working |
| 14:01.10 | dyoung-zzzz | Really? you weld racecar frames? |
| 14:01.11 | kitno455 | so i guess i can build a voltage divider :) |
| 14:01.13 | kitno455 | yeap |
| 14:01.19 | dyoung-zzzz | That ROCKS. |
| 14:01.23 | kitno455 | i do everything |
| 14:01.25 | dyoung-zzzz | we need to talk about that later. |
| 14:01.40 | kitno455 | what did heinlein say- specialization is for insects |
| 14:02.04 | [g2] | it's all relative :) |
| 14:02.11 | dyoung-zzzz | I'm low on the TIG learning curve. And I got this truck frame..... |
| 14:02.25 | dyoung-zzzz | but thats for another time. |
| 14:02.33 | kitno455 | hahahah |
| 14:02.35 | dyoung-zzzz | cuz I'm really tired. |
| 14:02.36 | kitno455 | email me |
| 14:02.58 | kitno455 | anoah at pfeiffer dot edu |
| 14:03.39 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay will do! |
| 14:04.08 | kitno455 | hmm, truck frame.... |
| 14:04.42 | dyoung-zzzz | Vintage 1970something Toyota FJ55 landcruiser. |
| 14:04.49 | kitno455 | excellent! |
| 14:04.55 | kitno455 | love those |
| 14:04.59 | dyoung-zzzz | The previous owner hacked a V8 into it, but it broke. |
| 14:05.15 | kitno455 | should have upgraded to 300cid ford inline 6 |
| 14:05.18 | dyoung-zzzz | it was a 327 with multiple thrown rods and spun bearings. |
| 14:05.19 | kitno455 | fits fine |
| 14:05.31 | kitno455 | small block ford would have fit |
| 14:05.41 | kitno455 | damn chevy lovers :) |
| 14:05.53 | dyoung-zzzz | But as luck would have it, theres a extra 2F in the garage..... |
| 14:05.59 | kitno455 | right |
| 14:06.04 | kitno455 | more than luck i bet :) |
| 14:06.33 | dyoung-zzzz | :-) |
| 14:06.42 | kitno455 | you should see my pile |
| 14:07.10 | kitno455 | i got transfer cases, and transmissions, and engines, and cars |
| 14:07.10 | dyoung-zzzz | The project stalled when we got a FX16 for free and we started doing SCCA. |
| 14:07.30 | kitno455 | scca or nasa is the goal of my current project |
| 14:07.48 | kitno455 | AWD mid engine studebaker :) |
| 14:07.50 | dyoung-zzzz | now theres just a pile of 4A-GE type parts everywhere. |
| 14:07.56 | dyoung-zzzz | Whoa... |
| 14:08.03 | dyoung-zzzz | you ARE the man. |
| 14:08.04 | kitno455 | big block caddy power |
| 14:08.12 | kitno455 | 500 cubes man! |
| 14:08.24 | kitno455 | its nuts |
| 14:08.45 | kitno455 | actually, my initials are MAN, so yes, i am the man |
| 14:08.53 | dyoung-zzzz | hahahahaha |
| 14:09.12 | dyoung-zzzz | thats funny. there seem to be several folks who are literally the "man" |
| 14:09.20 | dyoung-zzzz | Tiersten is literally Man. |
| 14:09.45 | kitno455 | lots of dads with a sense of humor i guess |
| 14:10.05 | kitno455 | having a boy soon myself, so i am trying to pick cool initals too |
| 14:10.13 | kitno455 | ion sounds cool |
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| 14:10.42 | kitno455 | hmm, fixchicken.patch.... |
| 14:10.52 | dyoung-zzzz | bok bok bok. |
| 14:11.04 | kitno455 | dude, sleep |
| 14:12.09 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay, I'll bug you later about car stuffs. |
| 14:12.15 | kitno455 | right. |
| 14:12.54 | dyoung-zzzz | BTW, I think Tiersten was hoping you could take some high(er) res pictures of the bare board sometime. |
| 14:13.08 | dyoung-zzzz | Tiersten and others (like myself)... |
| 14:13.14 | kitno455 | dude, those were huge already |
| 14:13.27 | dyoung-zzzz | Oh? |
| 14:13.41 | kitno455 | i mean, they are like 2000 by 1200 or something |
| 14:13.59 | kitno455 | i think |
| 14:14.09 | kitno455 | where the hell are they..... |
| 14:14.10 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay, I better let someone else field that request then. |
| 14:14.20 | kitno455 | let me see.... |
| 14:14.28 | [g2] | kitno455, are you building ok now ? |
| 14:14.37 | dyoung-zzzz | I only mention it now because I recall it being brought up in channel within the last 2 weeks |
| 14:14.51 | kitno455 | dyoung-zzzz, have someone email me |
| 14:15.05 | dyoung-zzzz | okay will do. |
| 14:15.06 | [g2] | kitno455 did you get my e-mail about those extra traces ? |
| 14:15.11 | kitno455 | [g2], sitting at gettext-native-0.14.1-r3: task do_configure: started for like 10 mins |
| 14:15.40 | kitno455 | [g2], just checking that account now |
| 14:15.47 | kitno455 | i have too many |
| 14:16.34 | kitno455 | [g2], as i recall the second set of chip select lines was there to go to 64 megs |
| 14:17.08 | dyoung-zzzz | stacking seems to be a challenge. |
| 14:17.09 | [g2] | 64 MB per chip ? |
| 14:17.19 | kitno455 | i tried to stack |
| 14:17.22 | kitno455 | damn hard |
| 14:17.48 | kitno455 | you can do it, but you almost have to add a little leader to each pin, or bridge gap with solder |
| 14:18.04 | kitno455 | then when you wick, you might pull it out. arg |
| 14:18.27 | [g2] | kitno455, I'm having a professional re-work shop do the mods |
| 14:18.37 | [g2] | They can even pull and replace BGAs |
| 14:19.15 | [g2] | I just need to figure you if the extra chip select and/or address lines are there |
| 14:19.25 | [g2] | and which memory configuation we should use |
| 14:19.36 | kitno455 | youri know the CS lines are there |
| 14:20.06 | dyoung-zzzz | the extra CS is there. |
| 14:20.35 | [g2] | Ok... so that leaves part configuration |
| 14:20.54 | [g2] | So will it just look two banks ? |
| 14:21.12 | kitno455 | i think the bank select is not connected |
| 14:21.16 | kitno455 | dont rememver |
| 14:21.22 | kitno455 | just 64 megs max? |
| 14:21.22 | [g2] | 32x16+32x16 on CS0 and the same on CS1 ? |
| 14:21.37 | dyoung-zzzz | you need to jumper it to the cs which is on a resistor back |
| 14:21.38 | dyoung-zzzz | pack |
| 14:22.08 | kitno455 | been weeks since i looked at the board, and i dont have it here |
| 14:22.22 | kitno455 | i dont mess with sdram enough to know the config of the lines |
| 14:22.44 | dyoung-zzzz | okay I'm really gonna fall down now, so see y'all later. |
| 14:22.50 | [g2] | thx guys... I'm gonna want to straighten this out |
| 14:22.58 | [g2] | nite dyoung-zzzz |
| 14:23.19 | kitno455 | i have kungfu class tonight, but i can look at board and sdram specs tomorrow night |
| 14:23.41 | kitno455 | adios |
| 14:23.44 | [g2] | kitno455, the MASTER |
| 14:23.52 | kitno455 | i am but an egg |
| 14:23.58 | dyoung-zzzz | seifu kitno |
| 14:24.04 | kitno455 | non, no |
| 14:24.16 | kitno455 | seidi kitno |
| 14:24.21 | dyoung-zzzz | :-) |
| 14:24.52 | dyoung-zzzz | I was at the temple of shaolin around 6 weeks ago. |
| 14:24.55 | dyoung-zzzz | that rocked. |
| 14:24.58 | kitno455 | cool |
| 14:25.09 | kitno455 | never been over the pacific myself |
| 14:25.12 | kitno455 | one day |
| 14:25.20 | dyoung-zzzz | yah, you should. |
| 14:25.34 | dyoung-zzzz | Its quite a spritual visit. |
| 14:25.55 | kitno455 | go to bed dude! |
| 14:25.59 | dyoung-zzzz | oh yeah. |
| 14:26.01 | dyoung-zzzz | :-) |
| 14:26.03 | dyoung-zzzz | nght |
| 14:26.04 | kitno455 | hahahah |
| 14:26.13 | kitno455 | sleep is for the weak |
| 14:26.27 | kitno455 | ooo downloading binutils now |
| 14:26.31 | kitno455 | big one |
| 14:26.40 | dyoung-zzzz | what was my catchphrase.... |
| 14:26.53 | dyoung-zzzz | "convergent evolution" |
| 14:26.54 | dyoung-zzzz | :-) |
| 14:27.12 | kitno455 | dont follow |
| 14:31.44 | ka6sox-away | morning |
| 14:31.50 | kitno455 | re |
| 14:31.57 | ka6sox-away | howdy |
| 14:32.22 | kitno455 | this irc thing is insane |
| 14:32.23 | ka6sox-away | dyoung-zzzz : go fall down. |
| 14:32.36 | ka6sox-away | kitno455, why? |
| 14:32.51 | kitno455 | its like 'the sun never sets on the slug empire' |
| 14:33.13 | ka6sox-away | ~slugtime |
| 14:33.14 | jbot | well, slugtime is 40 hour days 10 hours in 4 timezones with overlap |
| 14:33.51 | kitno455 | and these bot things too |
| 14:34.07 | kitno455 | i have too much real life to learn about all this stuff |
| 14:34.39 | ka6sox-away | 844 Unslung downloads and 137 Openslug downloads |
| 14:34.49 | kitno455 | i am one of the 137 |
| 14:35.18 | kitno455 | currently doing my first openslug build |
| 14:35.32 | ka6sox-away | cool...we were expecting 20:1 downloads of Unslung...seems like there is a pent up demand for Openslug. |
| 14:35.57 | kitno455 | i want a real linux box, not the linksys crap |
| 14:36.11 | [g2] | what do you want to do with it ? |
| 14:36.11 | kitno455 | 2.6 is where its at devel wise |
| 14:36.18 | kitno455 | hehehehe, you had to ask |
| 14:36.27 | [g2] | OpenSlug is 2.6.11 :) |
| 14:36.31 | kitno455 | i need 100 or so slugs |
| 14:36.37 | kitno455 | :) |
| 14:36.46 | ka6sox-away | SlugARmy! |
| 14:36.49 | kitno455 | right |
| 14:36.56 | [g2] | I'll be making HW |
| 14:37.03 | [g2] | I've got OEM board already running |
| 14:37.09 | [g2] | I could order 100 for you |
| 14:37.23 | kitno455 | [g2], you keep bringing this up, what advantages will you have over slug? |
| 14:37.40 | [g2] | many. |
| 14:37.49 | [g2] | 1st additional memory |
| 14:37.55 | [g2] | 64-128 configs |
| 14:38.19 | [g2] | 2) Different processors 422 and 425 which run at 533Hmz |
| 14:38.32 | [g2] | 3) expandability |
| 14:38.43 | kitno455 | hmm, a 533 henry processor.... |
| 14:38.55 | kitno455 | minipci slot? |
| 14:38.58 | [g2] | Imagine having 2 normal 3.3V PCI slots where you can plug in any 3.3 PCI card |
| 14:39.13 | [g2] | The OEM already sell MiniPCI |
| 14:39.15 | kitno455 | right- know a guy who needs exactly that for * |
| 14:39.48 | kitno455 | you gonna include case and powersupply |
| 14:39.59 | [g2] | sure |
| 14:40.06 | kitno455 | est cost? |
| 14:40.19 | [g2] | very cheap |
| 14:40.37 | kitno455 | can you beat a miniitx system? |
| 14:40.45 | [g2] | :) |
| 14:40.58 | [g2] | I see mini-itx as the Ceiling |
| 14:41.20 | kitno455 | right, thinking of bing compatible with miniitx or nano itx formfactors? |
| 14:41.27 | kitno455 | (if you can) |
| 14:41.34 | [g2] | I'm looking at total box cost in the $200-$350/399 range |
| 14:42.06 | [g2] | Actually it'll probably be a 1U factor |
| 14:42.12 | kitno455 | currently, i use used ibm thinkpads with 128 megs, a 6 gig disk, and a 300mhz intel cpu for that much money |
| 14:42.52 | kitno455 | they have screen, keyboard, a built in 10 second ups, and 2 pcmcia slots |
| 14:43.33 | [g2] | and how much Watts do they use ? |
| 14:43.38 | kitno455 | dont care |
| 14:43.40 | kitno455 | not my power |
| 14:43.46 | kitno455 | customers power :) |
| 14:43.55 | [g2] | well people building rack care |
| 14:44.02 | kitno455 | but, they do have moving parts, that is my problem |
| 14:44.13 | [g2] | That's the other issue :) |
| 14:44.31 | kitno455 | i lose a harddrive or cpu fan every couple months |
| 14:44.42 | [g2] | exactly |
| 14:44.47 | kitno455 | and so i look at the slug |
| 14:45.12 | kitno455 | my app is simple: |
| 14:45.13 | [g2] | You can get the OEM boards with 128MB and minipci now |
| 14:45.27 | ka6sox-away | I have been using MiniITX for 2 years now..they are nice but still somewhat troublesome. |
| 14:45.29 | kitno455 | but you have to find PS and case |
| 14:45.41 | kitno455 | i have a couple miniitx machines |
| 14:45.46 | kitno455 | i like them ok |
| 14:46.01 | [g2] | racing app ? |
| 14:46.05 | kitno455 | no |
| 14:46.58 | kitno455 | though i do have a 486 board that runs a cheesy ignition timing controller that i made |
| 14:47.15 | kitno455 | i have played some with megasquirt, seen that? |
| 14:47.27 | [g2] | I think I read about it |
| 14:47.45 | kitno455 | build it yourself batch fire fuel injuection system |
| 14:47.46 | jacques | open source fuel injection/ignition timing control ? |
| 14:47.51 | [g2] | there are like a million applications for little computer like these |
| 14:48.07 | kitno455 | yeah |
| 14:48.23 | kitno455 | the slug does not really have enough io capability |
| 14:48.41 | kitno455 | but your idea of full size pci sounds good |
| 14:48.41 | [g2] | a simple FPGA on the PCI bus solves that |
| 14:48.58 | kitno455 | you have to GET to the pci buss first |
| 14:49.15 | kitno455 | tear off usb controller? |
| 14:49.27 | [g2] | it's cheaper to build custom boards |
| 14:49.45 | kitno455 | or use the oem board with a mini to full pici adapter |
| 14:49.56 | kitno455 | pci |
| 14:50.04 | [g2] | too expensive |
| 14:50.20 | [g2] | the adapters cost as much as the slug |
| 14:50.41 | VoodooZ_Work | I was just looking at the nanoITX this morning. They are still not available?? |
| 14:50.51 | [g2] | but it does work well for testing :) |
| 14:50.52 | kitno455 | not lat time i checked |
| 14:51.08 | kitno455 | nano itx seems to be a marketting ploy |
| 14:51.20 | [g2] | price points on all that stuff will be > $400 more like 600 |
| 14:51.31 | VoodooZ_Work | well, for robotics, size is key. |
| 14:51.38 | VoodooZ_Work | Then again, power is too! |
| 14:51.42 | kitno455 | [g2], i guess i just assumed that custom devel would be more expensive |
| 14:52.03 | kitno455 | VoodooZ_Work, how is your robot competiion coming (or did it happen already) |
| 14:52.04 | [g2] | more expensive that what ? |
| 14:52.11 | kitno455 | than you are saying |
| 14:52.20 | kitno455 | or than oem board |
| 14:52.50 | [g2] | well essentially I'll be competing with the OEM boards eventually |
| 14:52.57 | [g2] | then it's just a question of volume |
| 14:53.11 | [g2] | Overhead, I win hands down |
| 14:53.27 | kitno455 | no hr department in g2 land :) |
| 14:53.37 | [g2] | nope. |
| 14:53.53 | [g2] | It's me in my loft |
| 14:53.59 | VoodooZ_Work | kitno455: because the slug fun I ran out of time for actual robot work so next April... |
| 14:54.01 | [g2] | I'm hoping to move to the garage soon :) |
| 14:54.22 | kitno455 | VoodooZ_Work, i keep running into pages that link to yours |
| 14:54.23 | VoodooZ_Work | But on the other hand, it permitted me to start playing with computer vision which is definitely useful. |
| 14:54.27 | VoodooZ_Work | really? |
| 14:54.31 | kitno455 | yeah |
| 14:54.42 | VoodooZ_Work | wow! I'm more popular than I thought! :) |
| 14:54.45 | kitno455 | i guess i am turning in circles around your work |
| 14:54.59 | kitno455 | 'spiralling downward' :) |
| 14:55.04 | VoodooZ_Work | Well, "work" is a big word! :) |
| 14:55.30 | kitno455 | wow, libc is huge |
| 14:55.36 | VoodooZ_Work | I haven't really produced anything decently complete since '03 when I was unemployed. (lots of time) |
| 14:55.46 | kitno455 | yeah, me too |
| 14:56.00 | kitno455 | i did a good bit of opensource devel the last time i had no work |
| 14:56.09 | kitno455 | but now, real work |
| 14:56.14 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah. |
| 14:56.32 | kitno455 | i am trying to make it so that real work requires me to work on slug :) |
| 14:56.43 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe. that would be sweet. |
| 14:57.15 | VoodooZ_Work | I also hope to lose my boring IT job soon and perhaps work in robotics or something cool. |
| 14:57.15 | kitno455 | timing is everything though |
| 14:57.32 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't have the schooling for research though so my chances are slim. |
| 14:57.37 | VoodooZ_Work | yep |
| 14:57.37 | kitno455 | yeah |
| 14:57.48 | kitno455 | i dont have a degree in anything :) |
| 14:57.56 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm just a technologist with too much time on his hands! |
| 14:58.11 | kitno455 | but we are the new elite |
| 14:58.15 | VoodooZ_Work | But motivation and passion does make a difference. |
| 14:58.31 | VoodooZ_Work | l8! |
| 14:58.32 | kitno455 | those who can adapt to changing technology |
| 14:58.48 | VoodooZ_Work | It's damn hard at the pace it's going though |
| 14:59.14 | [g2] | I've gotta run out... bbiab |
| 14:59.51 | VoodooZ_Work | later [g2] |
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| 18:21.51 | kitno455 | [g2], where does bb put the output when it is done? |
| 18:22.02 | [g2] | tmp/deploy/images |
| 18:22.13 | [g2] | kitno455, your build completed ? |
| 18:22.20 | kitno455 | i cant tell |
| 18:22.29 | [g2] | bb finished ? |
| 18:22.32 | kitno455 | NOTE: build 200505241359: completed |
| 18:22.37 | kitno455 | sounds like ti |
| 18:22.38 | kitno455 | it |
| 18:22.39 | [g2] | :) |
| 18:22.47 | kitno455 | but there is no tmp/deploy/images |
| 18:22.49 | [g2] | joy joy happy dance |
| 18:23.07 | [g2] | there's a tmp directory right ? |
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| 18:23.17 | kitno455 | there is a tmp/deploy/ipk, but its empty |
| 18:23.34 | kitno455 | ahhhh nevermind |
| 18:23.44 | kitno455 | i was looking in build/tmp/deploy |
| 18:24.02 | kitno455 | ok, there are three files, which is which? |
| 18:24.34 | [g2] | the 8MB file that says opensl....flashdisk.img right ? |
| 18:24.59 | kitno455 | yes |
| 18:25.07 | [g2] | that's a flashable image |
| 18:25.33 | [g2] | either through the Linksys Web UI, upslug, the upload proceedure etc.... |
| 18:25.40 | kitno455 | right |
| 18:25.59 | [g2] | the jffs2 is the jffs2 partition portion of that and the kernel is the kernel |
| 18:27.09 | kitno455 | could i play with those independantlty and nail them together later? |
| 18:28.24 | [g2] | slugimage is the perl program that does it |
| 18:28.41 | [g2] | I wouldn't waste your time with it |
| 18:28.54 | [g2] | kitno455, do you have serial ? |
| 18:29.16 | kitno455 | yes |
| 18:29.29 | kitno455 | i could tftp pieces i suppose |
| 18:29.44 | kitno455 | 'do i have serial' he asks :) |
| 18:29.55 | [g2] | are you interested in playing with the APEX bootloader ? |
| 18:29.57 | kitno455 | yes |
| 18:30.03 | kitno455 | dont have jtab |
| 18:30.05 | kitno455 | tag |
| 18:30.35 | kitno455 | i am going to put this thing on untrusted net. redboot needs a network-otomy |
| 18:30.59 | [g2] | We've got a working APEX |
| 18:31.30 | VoodooZ_Work | define "working". |
| 18:31.59 | VoodooZ_Work | Does it boots openslug's jffs2? |
| 18:31.59 | [g2] | Ethernet, USB, all works |
| 18:32.07 | [g2] | boots the jffs2 via the kernel like now |
| 18:32.36 | VoodooZ_Work | cool! |
| 18:32.37 | [g2] | I just doesn't have ethernet, but you can Xmodem images down |
| 18:32.43 | VoodooZ_Work | I'll have to try that then! |
| 18:33.16 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, I meant to ask you. Was the intel stuff finally removed from openslug or? |
| 18:33.36 | VoodooZ_Work | I just flashed the latest openslug and it boots without the ixp stuff. |
| 18:33.51 | kitno455 | uhh, how does it get ethernet? |
| 18:34.04 | [g2] | kitno455, it doesn't have ethernet |
| 18:34.14 | [g2] | it copies the kernel from flash and boots it |
| 18:34.18 | VoodooZ_Work | I need it for development only. |
| 18:34.28 | [g2] | the kernel loads the jffs2 and networking |
| 18:34.52 | VoodooZ_Work | Is it much faster than redboot? |
| 18:35.01 | [g2] | sure |
| 18:35.06 | [g2] | it's 16K |
| 18:35.20 | [g2] | and it just loads the kernel parition and boot strait to the jffs2 |
| 18:35.28 | [g2] | less copying |
| 18:35.50 | [g2] | VoodooZ_Work, are you saying the Intel Access Library wasn't in there this morning ? |
| 18:36.24 | VoodooZ_Work | well, the modules are still present in /lib (as I was able to load them manually) but they didn't load on startup. |
| 18:37.23 | [g2] | jbowler-zzz, tweaked the config for -mm this morning from the changesets |
| 18:37.40 | [g2] | it worked yesterday |
| 18:37.48 | VoodooZ_Work | strange. |
| 18:38.08 | VoodooZ_Work | What's the mm thing btw? Is a kernel for openslug-init or ??? |
| 18:39.04 | [g2] | -mm is a branch of the kernel |
| 18:39.06 | jbowler | mm is the kernel with the MM patches - see kernel.org |
| 18:39.09 | Jacmet | did anyone actually try to compile a newer version of redboot instead? the startup delay seems pretty strange |
| 18:39.36 | VoodooZ_Work | both the mm flavour is not in use yet right? |
| 18:39.44 | [g2] | Jacmet, which startup delay ? |
| 18:40.05 | VoodooZ_Work | What are those patches for? I thought this was already in place? speed improvement? |
| 18:40.20 | Jacmet | [g2]: redboot takes a few seconds to startup |
| 18:40.45 | Jacmet | [g2]: It doesn't do that on the other platforms I have used it |
| 18:40.47 | Jacmet | on |
| 18:41.00 | [g2] | Jacmet, I think when it boot, the flash is in the slowest mode (safest) and it loads redboot |
| 18:41.34 | jbowler | VoodooZ_Work - if the IAL didn't load, how were you able to log in? |
| 18:41.35 | Jacmet | [g2]: ok, but still, it shouldn't take seconds to read ~100k |
| 18:41.58 | [g2] | It's a sercom modified Redboot |
| 18:42.08 | Jacmet | [g2]: true |
| 18:42.27 | [g2] | I'm not sure if the are checking a signature somewhere and reading the whole flash |
| 18:42.43 | Jacmet | [g2]: I was basically just wondering why people were looking into apex instead of sticking to redboot (or going with uboot) |
| 18:42.44 | [g2] | if someone had a bus analyzer it'd be interesting to know |
| 18:43.03 | [g2] | couple reasons |
| 18:43.30 | [g2] | 1) Beewoolie has already written APEX and though he could port it easily to the IXP4xx platform |
| 18:43.53 | [g2] | 2) RedBoot has a learning curve and is big and cumbersome in my mind |
| 18:44.20 | [g2] | APEX was smaller derivative from uboot |
| 18:44.28 | Jacmet | [g2]: everything has a learning curve ;) I find RedBoot pretty nicely structured |
| 18:44.51 | Jacmet | [g2]: but apex presumably has less features? |
| 18:45.00 | [g2] | sure. |
| 18:45.12 | [g2] | but you can look at ALL the code in like 30 minutes |
| 18:45.16 | jbowler | The big problem with APEX seems to be lack of ethernet support. |
| 18:45.34 | [g2] | yes, and that's just crazy to me |
| 18:46.08 | [g2] | The two reasons to have ethernet in the bootloader to me are: |
| 18:46.13 | [g2] | 1) it comes for free |
| 18:46.28 | [g2] | 2) you need it for debugging the kernel and fast downloading |
| 18:46.39 | jbowler | Seems like it's the same problem - the access code is enormous (not surprising, most of the IXP420 core is for the ethernet) |
| 18:46.55 | jbowler | And the only implementation is the Intel one... |
| 18:47.16 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (Makefile unslung-autoclean.pl): make autoclean a bit more discerning in what it deletes |
| 18:47.17 | kitno455 | right |
| 18:47.39 | kitno455 | until someone reverse engineers compiler for NPE, we are stuck with intel code |
| 18:47.43 | jbowler | Ok, so I'm going to try to flash a new kernel from the command line (remember, no serial...) |
| 18:47.52 | kitno455 | you dont have serial? |
| 18:48.09 | kitno455 | the comunity has not gotten together to get you one? |
| 18:48.13 | jbowler | No, I try to only use release systems. |
| 18:49.34 | jbowler | A lot of the openslug stuff I've done (like the led stuff) is mainly to ensure that the thing can be used by all those people without mod'ed hardware. |
| 18:52.12 | VoodooZ_Work | sorry i was on the phone... |
| 18:52.30 | VoodooZ_Work | jbowler: I use serial. |
| 18:53.40 | jbowler | Have you editted /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 18:53.58 | VoodooZ_Work | well, i didn't have to a few days ago? |
| 18:54.00 | Jacmet | anyone done any work on booting a little endian kernel? |
| 18:54.41 | jbowler | etc/network/interfaces should have 'auto eth0' and that will modprobe eth0, which should bring up the ethernet. |
| 18:55.18 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, strange It's been working for months... |
| 18:56.06 | [g2] | jbowler, did you flash yet ? |
| 18:57.15 | [g2] | jbowler, are you familiar with the kern_header routine ? |
| 18:57.44 | jbowler | In progress - I hit the shutdown hang again. Yes, I know kern_header, I'm trying to write the thing directly, without an intermediate file. |
| 18:57.59 | jbowler | First 4 bytes are the length right? Then 0, then 0... |
| 18:58.13 | Jacmet | [g2]: isn't the size advantage of ape compared to redboot/uboot moot anyway when considering the flash block size? |
| 18:58.15 | [g2] | exactly in BE format |
| 18:58.32 | [g2] | Jacmet, not for execution |
| 18:58.56 | [g2] | Jacmet, besides the current Redboot Implementation costs 4 blocks |
| 18:58.59 | [g2] | maybe 5 |
| 18:59.26 | [g2] | 2 for Redboot itself, 1 for sysconfig, 1 for the trailer block, 1 for the offset in the Rootfs block |
| 19:00.05 | Jacmet | [g2]: wow, I didn't notice it was that big - must be the npe stuff - redboot is normally in the 100-200k range |
| 19:00.51 | Jacmet | the extra blocks could be skipped if we went for a std redboot |
| 19:00.53 | [g2] | So that all squeezes down to 2 partitions because we're lazy and safe |
| 19:01.47 | [g2] | With a standard Redboot it still costs 3 or 4 blocks |
| 19:01.47 | [g2] | 2 for the Redboot 1 for the sysconf and possibly 1 for the partition/config block |
| 19:02.29 | [g2] | Jacmet, we need a RedBoot guy |
| 19:02.40 | [g2] | You can be the RedBoot guy if you like |
| 19:02.50 | [g2] | and also deal with the NPE IP issues too |
| 19:03.24 | [g2] | APEX already works with the 64MB config on an OEM board and the reworked units will have the identicaly memory config |
| 19:03.35 | [g2] | we need a Redboot with 64MB |
| 19:04.12 | [g2] | Are you familiar with sluggo ? The CVS project that builds RedBoot ? |
| 19:07.51 | [g2] | Anybody burn DVDs out there ? |
| 19:09.43 | Jacmet | [g2]: the NPI issues are the same no matter what bootloader we go fot - you can also easily compile redboot without ethernet support |
| 19:09.50 | Jacmet | NPE even |
| 19:10.16 | Jacmet | [g2]: 64MB config is a one-line change in the linker script |
| 19:11.41 | [g2] | Jacmet, cool. |
| 19:36.41 | kitno455 | ok, putting my first build of openslug onto the box... |
| 19:42.20 | kitno455 | boots. but says: ixp425_eth: ixEthMiiLinkStatus failed on PHY0. still uses .77, which works ok. |
| 19:42.46 | VoodooZ_Work | congrats! |
| 19:45.46 | [g2] | kitno455, congrats! |
| 19:53.08 | kitno455 | any idea why dhcp does not work? |
| 19:53.58 | [g2] | there's an option in turnup now for that |
| 19:54.12 | [g2] | I haven't tried it, but I saw it in there |
| 20:01.39 | kitno455 | ok, need to go read new turnup |
| 20:04.18 | jbowler | DHCP should work - it works on my network. |
| 20:04.58 | [g2] | jbowler, excellent |
| 20:05.11 | [g2] | I'll have to try that out |
| 20:05.35 | jbowler | Ah, but it certainly does not work in 1.12, it can be made to work badly by ipkg install kernel-module-af-packet, but then the eth hardware MAC won't be set... |
| 20:06.01 | jbowler | ...because 'eth0 dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces ignores the 'hw address' stuff. |
| 20:06.24 | jbowler | See the post-1.12 generated /etc/network/interfaces for how to do it. |
| 20:06.55 | kitno455 | jbowler, i just built openslug from bk |
| 20:06.56 | [g2] | The post-1.12 from yesterday ? |
| 20:06.57 | jbowler | It needs: pre-up ifconfig eth0 hw ether <MAC> |
| 20:07.10 | [g2] | that's what my current one has |
| 20:07.47 | jbowler | Then DHCP should work - in fact, by default it will use DHCP because LinkSys/RedBoot programs 'boot_proto=dhcp' |
| 20:08.13 | jbowler | [g2] - is udhcpc running on your system? |
| 20:08.56 | [g2] | I haven't tried |
| 20:09.03 | [g2] | I'm not running dhcp |
| 20:09.39 | jbowler | Unless you changed /etc/network/interfaces by hand I believe you are running udhcpc, even if there is no DHCP server. |
| 20:09.42 | [g2] | grep boot /etc/default/sysconf |
| 20:09.42 | [g2] | bootproto=static |
| 20:10.13 | jbowler | Ah, ok. Hum... maybe I'm wrong, does a stock NSLU2 come configured that way? |
| 20:10.21 | [g2] | Nod. |
| 20:10.29 | [g2] | Static IP @ 192.168.1.77 |
| 20:11.04 | jbowler | Ok then: kitno455 - just edit /etc/default/sysconf to change the bootproto line to 'dhcp' |
| 20:11.44 | [g2] | do the boot scripts read that file on every boot ? |
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| 20:12.10 | jbowler | ... good point... and change the /etc/network/interface line to 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' |
| 20:13.09 | jbowler | The udhcpc script reads from /etc/default/sysconf, but I couldn't find a way to make /etc/network/interfaces update to follow it. |
| 20:13.51 | jbowler | Still, with the pre-up line it's just a matter of changing 'static' to 'dhcp' - all the other stuff can be left as it is. |
| 20:14.49 | kitno455 | jbowler, heres the msg i get: ixp425_eth: CPU clock speed (approx) = 0 MHz |
| 20:14.49 | kitno455 | [error] ixEthMiiPhyScan : unexpected Mii PHY ID 00008201 |
| 20:14.49 | kitno455 | ixp425_eth: npe0 is using the PHY at address 0 |
| 20:14.49 | kitno455 | ixp425_eth: npe1 is using the PHY at address 1 |
| 20:14.49 | kitno455 | done. |
| 20:14.49 | kitno455 | Starting portmap daemon: portmap. |
| 20:14.51 | kitno455 | ixp425_eth: ixEthMiiLinkStatus failed on PHY0. |
| 20:14.53 | kitno455 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.55 | kitno455 | the auto negotiated parameters. Using default values. |
| 20:15.30 | kitno455 | not sure if sysconf currently asks for dhcp or not |
| 20:16.11 | jbowler | Those messages are expected, in that I've always seen that LinkStatus failure. |
| 20:16.41 | jbowler | Just change /etc/network/interfaces to request dhcp not status (in the iface eth0 inet line). |
| 20:16.51 | CompBrain | is there anyone with a working build enviorment that would be willing to build some kernel modules? |
| 20:17.57 | ka6sox-office | which distro? |
| 20:18.38 | CompBrain | for the slug |
| 20:18.48 | ka6sox-office | unslung or openslug? |
| 20:20.00 | CompBrain | hmm, either i suppose. Im starting a new project so im flexible |
| 20:20.00 | [g2] | which modules most are already built ? :) |
| 20:20.50 | CompBrain | usbsound, usbserial, and one that i cant remember |
| 20:21.01 | [g2] | is the project a secret or can you tell us about it ? :) |
| 20:21.16 | [g2] | I think usbsound and serial are already built |
| 20:21.18 | CompBrain | Well, it involves the WGT634U |
| 20:21.31 | CompBrain | are they, i did a quick search of the wiki and didnt see anything yet |
| 20:21.59 | ka6sox-office | ipkfind.nslu2-linux.org |
| 20:22.23 | CompBrain | ah, gratz |
| 20:24.03 | CompBrain | hmm, that url no worky |
| 20:24.11 | ka6sox-office | ipkgfind. |
| 20:24.28 | CompBrain | ah |
| 20:24.29 | CompBrain | thanks |
| 20:24.32 | ka6sox-office | np |
| 20:25.49 | ka6sox-office | the OpenWRT guys know about this little box. |
| 20:26.08 | CompBrain | the WGT? |
| 20:26.17 | CompBrain | btw, no usbsound, just soundcore and usbserial |
| 20:27.01 | [g2] | CompBrain, I think someone wrote up something on the wiki about using a usb sound blaster |
| 20:27.11 | [g2] | I could be all wet about that though |
| 20:27.21 | CompBrain | i saw it on the wishlist |
| 20:27.35 | CompBrain | hmm, let me have another look |
| 20:27.55 | CompBrain | nope. :/ |
| 20:28.50 | CompBrain | aaahhh. on 'WhatPeopleAreReallyUsingTheirSlugsFor' someone has an entry about using the iMic, but they just say that they 'patched it' |
| 20:29.10 | CompBrain | and theirs a nag nag line there, requesting a howto |
| 20:29.50 | ka6sox-office | heh |
| 20:30.44 | CompBrain | I wish all these embedded linux devices would decide on a platform. MIPS/ARM/spoope, its impossible to complile all this stuff |
| 20:30.48 | CompBrain | hehe |
| 20:40.51 | ka6sox-office | yep |
| 20:41.09 | ka6sox-office | it appears to be a Broadcom thingy...so similar to the Wiley we are doing right now. |
| 20:42.38 | CompBrain | Wiley? |
| 20:43.09 | ka6sox-office | the ASUS WL-XXX series of router/wireless HDD devices. |
| 20:43.27 | CompBrain | ah |
| 20:43.29 | CompBrain | gotcha |
| 20:43.39 | CompBrain | theres really not much about the negear box |
| 20:43.43 | CompBrain | Im suprised |
| 20:43.52 | CompBrain | Its cheap |
| 20:43.56 | CompBrain | <50$ |
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| 20:54.06 | copperbeech | [g2]: you still working on the knoppix development env CD? Or are you on to other things now? |
| 21:11.46 | dyoung-zzzz | WGT634U |
| 21:12.11 | dyoung-zzzz | Peteru setup a buildenv for the 634U. |
| 21:12.16 | dyoung-zzzz | for a 2.6 kernel |
| 21:14.33 | CompBrain | o0o |
| 21:14.34 | CompBrain | cooo |
| 21:14.37 | CompBrain | verycooo |
| 21:15.26 | dyoung-zzzz | Unfortunately, you'll need to go through back logs to find any crumbs of into. |
| 21:15.32 | CompBrain | heh |
| 21:15.35 | CompBrain | thats alright |
| 21:15.44 | ByronT-Away | dyoung!!!! |
| 21:15.45 | dyoung-zzzz | I believe he is away travelling for several motnhs now |
| 21:15.50 | ByronT-Away | is my serial on the way? |
| 21:15.58 | CompBrain | im divig into openslug today.. shall be fun |
| 21:16.00 | dyoung-zzzz | No but it could be. |
| 21:16.06 | dyoung-zzzz | I need your mailing address. |
| 21:16.14 | kitno455 | dyoung, you have awakened |
| 21:16.38 | dyoung-zzzz | Yeah, that was kind of a long one. |
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| 21:20.06 | dzlabing | #nicsetup |
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| 21:29.27 | dzlabing | hi, specialists, I seem to have ruined my nlsu2 trying to unslung 4.20 - no response after reboot anymore, can anyone help? |
| 21:30.12 | senneth | dzlabing: have you tried the instruction for recovering from a bad flash? |
| 21:30.26 | ka6sox-office | ~nslu2-wiki |
| 21:30.27 | jbot | it has been said that nslu2-wiki is the short-hand way of saying "Have a look at the NSLU2-Linux Wiki at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/". |
| 21:31.53 | dzlabing | thank you for responses, yes, I tried the wiki, but the problem I see is that the flash itself went ok, I played around with an 1 GByte USB stick, installed a lot of software, but when I wanted to switch to a 80 GByte harddisk reboot failed, so I believe the flash should be ok - or I am totally wrong with that? |
| 21:32.35 | ka6sox-office | try to boot without the HD and telnet in...then try a remount of the drive. |
| 21:34.39 | dzlabing | when I reboot without harddisk it is the same. The only thing I can see is that after some 2..3 min there is a short "beep", but that is all. When I connect a drive, the LED turns on, and when I disconnect ethernet the ethernet-led goes out, but that is all I can see. One problem could be that I used dhcp to get the IP, but the dhcp-server does not receive any request any more... |
| 21:35.32 | dzlabing | Maybe I also should mention, the last thing I did was to try to switch to maintanance mode, but I think that was totaly wrong... |
| 21:35.34 | ka6sox-office | before you connect the drive enable telnet. |
| 21:35.51 | dzlabing | Yes, but I can not access it at all. |
| 21:36.00 | ka6sox-office | ah |
| 21:36.15 | ka6sox-office | ah..even http is down? |
| 21:36.41 | dzlabing | no ping, no http, no telnet. |
| 21:38.22 | ka6sox-office | have you tried 192.168.1.77 |
| 21:38.56 | CompBrain | I tried to get to my web interface, forgot i changed the port to 8080 :) |
| 21:38.58 | ka6sox-office | I was wondering if it went back to default. |
| 21:39.03 | ka6sox-office | ah |
| 21:39.07 | ka6sox-office | okay |
| 21:39.07 | dyoung-zzzz | If it beeps, its up. |
| 21:40.34 | dzlabing | 192.168.1.77 also does not get arp-resolution, |
| 21:41.23 | dzlabing | dyoung-zzzz: so this means, it's up, but does not respond !? |
| 21:41.27 | [g2] | copperbeech, the base LiveCD is done |
| 21:41.46 | dyoung-zzzz | It means its some other address. |
| 21:42.03 | dyoung-zzzz | You can telnet to redboot right? |
| 21:42.05 | [g2] | I just got a DVD burner today to build the LiveCD with the Metadata, Tarballs and maybe pre-built images onit |
| 21:42.18 | copperbeech | [g2]: cool so what is the next step ? |
| 21:42.28 | [g2] | master the DVD :) |
| 21:42.49 | dzlabing | What address is used if I have dhcp active, but for some reason dhcp-fails (is there any default like 192.168.1.77 or is it just 0.0.0.0? |
| 21:42.54 | copperbeech | [g2] and then you can test and create an ISO? |
| 21:43.24 | [g2] | copperbeech, I created a LiveCD which build the openslug-image from the metadata off a mounted disk |
| 21:43.25 | copperbeech | :-) |
| 21:43.53 | [g2] | I've got to grab dinner... I'll be back later to chat if you're around |
| 21:44.04 | copperbeech | [g2]: I'm really interested in package development will it do that? |
| 21:44.11 | dyoung-zzzz | dzlabing, thats not relevant, you need to answer the part about being able to telent to redboot first. |
| 21:44.40 | [g2]-dinner | copperbeech, there are just some finishing touches... I'll let you know all about it later |
| 21:45.33 | copperbeech | [g2]: thanks - if I'm not around I'll try and get the logs - late here and have an appointment with my pillow :-) great stuff you've been doing - very interested |
| 21:46.07 | dzlabing | dyoung-zzzz: thank you, i think now i start to understand what you mean, red-boot has a fixed address, i did not try that out, let me see.. |
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| 21:51.33 | dzlabing | gotcha the RedBoot> prompt, 23h51, I think i should fix is today;-) |
| 21:55.20 | dzlabing | is it necassary that the tftp-server is in the same subnet or can that server also be somewhere on the internet? Wiki uses a Cisco-Image as example, why should I not load the unslug-firmware? |
| 21:56.42 | dyoung-zzzz | dzlabing, I use upslug to upload new firmware images. |
| 21:57.13 | dyoung-zzzz | so get to the redboot prompt, type upgrade there; go to other linux machine, upslug --upload newimage |
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| 21:59.14 | rwhitby-away | dzlabing: use the Linksys setup utility to set a static address |
| 21:59.30 | rwhitby-away | and forget about dhcp on unslung - it's too unreliable |
| 22:00.43 | dzlabing | ok, i am just trying to build upslug an i will flash a linksys firmware first, and follow the not-to-use-dhcp-anymore hint ;-) |
| 22:04.24 | rwhitby | if you can get into upgrade mode, then you can use the SerComm upgrade utility if you have a windows box |
| 22:09.32 | dzlabing | great, it is already past midnight, but upslug ok, flash ok, ping (on 10.2.0.12) ok, webinterface up, great, alive again! |
| 22:09.45 | rwhitby | congrats |
| 22:10.12 | rwhitby | it's only 7:39am here, so you did it in one day in Australian time |
| 22:11.01 | dzlabing | good morning, i was believing its afternoon on your side, but i got the directions wrong (i am located in Vienna, Austria |
| 22:11.25 | dyoung-zzzz | Cool, glad it worked. |
| 22:11.36 | dyoung-zzzz | rwhitby beat me to saying "dont use dhcp" |
| 22:11.40 | CompBrain | I checked the usbserial package, its missing pl2303 support, so if anyone wants to tackle that =P, id be very happy |
| 22:12.03 | dzlabing | not to do it wrong again: as dhcp is still active, it seems that some parts of the flash have remained, should i now do something to get somekind of "default settings" back, or should i just do an "unslung" again? |
| 22:12.26 | rwhitby | CompBrain: we've got pl2303 support in both openslug and unslung |
| 22:13.05 | CompBrain | hmm, i just installed openslug latest, and did a little searching.. Im missing that and usbsound, but usbsound seems to be a dead end atm |
| 22:13.48 | CompBrain | oh, found 2303 |
| 22:14.55 | CompBrain | thanks rwhitby |
| 22:16.23 | dzlabing | i do not realy need dhcp, it's just to make me feel that i have a big network at home.. |
| 22:21.44 | rwhitby | dzlabing: if you want to get back to factory defaults, then do a reset sysyconf (see the wiki) |
| 22:21.50 | rwhitby | sysconf |
| 22:26.26 | [g2] | rwhitby, hey.... |
| 22:26.49 | [g2] | have you seen all the great changes jbowler put in OpenSlug's turnup ? |
| 22:26.54 | dzlabing | yes, I think now I understood the whole procedure, and what all that red-menu-stuff is about, i read it before, but did not get the point, I will do sysconf next, currenty i am formating the harddisk to start from scratch (but via ethernet, not with a flash-programmer |
| 22:37.08 | dzlabing | sysconf done, unslung done, now updating and installing packages to harddisk 1h + 3rd level support - thank you all!! |
| 22:37.50 | rwhitby | [g2]: yeah. jbowler is a great asset for OpenSlug |
| 22:38.23 | [g2] | amen |
| 22:39.10 | [g2] | thx to the leadership of rwhitby :) |
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| 23:30.24 | dzlabing | finaly i rebooted, and now i am copying files via kernel-nfs and in parallel downloading a film via usb from my topfield. perfect good night! |
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