| 00:01.01 | nettie | definitely |
| 00:01.04 | nettie | how it works? |
| 00:01.19 | nettie | it's like a box where you guys have access and you build stuff there? |
| 00:01.49 | rwhitby | yep - they are our official build machines |
| 00:01.54 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/ (Makefile sources/vsftpd/uclibc-prctl.patch): Forgot the new patch |
| 00:02.09 | dyoung | okay so I cant seem to unsling to hdd-data. |
| 00:02.21 | dyoung | on my prodslug2 with no serial. |
| 00:02.42 | rwhitby | what happens? |
| 00:02.57 | dyoung | it boots to the jffs2. |
| 00:02.58 | rwhitby | I unslung to hdd-data on devslug last night after the ipkg fix |
| 00:03.12 | dyoung | unless I'm missing something... |
| 00:03.21 | dyoung | load the firmware, unsling hdd-data; reboot |
| 00:03.28 | rwhitby | that's it |
| 00:03.48 | dyoung | yep, on my 3rd try, it just plain dont do it. |
| 00:03.59 | nettie | rwhitby what's the best/fastest way to recompile an image? |
| 00:04.00 | dyoung | the flagfiles are all there. |
| 00:04.01 | rwhitby | is .sda1root there in the jffs2, and does /sbin/init exist on /share/hdd/conf? |
| 00:04.11 | rwhitby | nettie: depends what has changed |
| 00:04.21 | rwhitby | the -image package is always rebuilt |
| 00:04.45 | dyoung | no, but I do have a /share/hdd/data/bin/init . ;-) |
| 00:04.47 | dyoung | df |
| 00:05.46 | nettie | I see |
| 00:05.46 | rwhitby | so no .sda1root? |
| 00:06.07 | nettie | if I want to add iptables with relative kernel modules etc what should I do? |
| 00:06.07 | rwhitby | it should be there in both the jffs2 and in /share/hdd/data (I put it in both) |
| 00:06.22 | nettie | add it to packages and recompile the image? |
| 00:06.25 | rwhitby | nettie: update the defconfig in openslug-kernel-... |
| 00:06.42 | rwhitby | kernel modules are packaged and uploaded to the feed automatically if they are in the defconfig |
| 00:07.25 | rwhitby | dyoung: let me wipe my sda and try to recreate |
| 00:07.36 | nettie | ok great |
| 00:08.13 | nettie | maybe I also can install pakcaged already uplaoded by 3rd party |
| 00:08.54 | nettie | where's the rep? |
| 00:08.58 | rwhitby | uploaded by who? |
| 00:09.07 | rwhitby | ipkg update ; ipkg list |
| 00:09.11 | nettie | cool |
| 00:09.32 | nettie | eheh the point is that I'm not expecting so much stuff working |
| 00:09.32 | nettie | eheh |
| 00:09.36 | dyoung | I'm gonna reflash it for good measure. |
| 00:09.53 | rwhitby | nettie: ye of little faith .... |
| 00:10.24 | rwhitby | before the ipkg debacle we were just about to go to beta with openslug |
| 00:10.29 | rwhitby | and we don't go to beta lightly |
| 00:13.24 | nettie | I'm crashed I go bed.. thanx again and see you tomorrow. night |
| 00:13.38 | rwhitby | ciao |
| 00:14.33 | rwhitby | dyoung: I unslung to a previously rootfs'd drive, which might have masked something |
| 00:17.15 | rwhitby | one thing that's gonna have to be made clear in the README is to wait until the quota checking is done if you are unslinging to hdd-data |
| 00:17.30 | rwhitby | README note above |
| 00:17.56 | rwhitby | and that's hard to tell, cause it's well after the beep for a large drive |
| 00:18.24 | rwhitby | maybe we can change the beep to wait for quota checking to finish |
| 00:22.20 | dyoung | Hmm |
| 00:22.51 | rwhitby | did you see that python builds for the wl500g? :-) |
| 00:23.08 | rwhitby | I might have to learn python - it's seems to be more cross-compile-compatible than perl ... |
| 00:23.46 | dyoung | I thought you hated snakes? |
| 00:24.03 | dyoung | I'm all in a quandry of which I should learn. |
| 00:24.10 | dyoung | (or rather expand my skillset in) |
| 00:25.32 | rwhitby | I don't hate snakes. |
| 00:26.11 | rwhitby | I just can't write it yet, and have only a novice to competent reading knowledge of it. |
| 00:28.44 | rwhitby | dyoung: I figure if we change the &>/dev/null to a 2>/dev/null in the call to rc.quota in rc.local, then that will make it sequential. |
| 00:29.20 | rwhitby | it would also make unslung packages wait for the disk to become read-write again too. a win/win. |
| 00:29.33 | eno | rwhitby: python is good |
| 00:30.02 | rwhitby | eno: yeah, most languages are good when you know them :-) |
| 00:30.33 | rwhitby | and yes, some are intrinsicly good too |
| 00:30.37 | eno | i'm a language nuts, and i like python qiute a lot |
| 00:33.53 | rwhitby | dyoung: yeah, that works well |
| 00:34.39 | dyoung | Okay cool. |
| 00:34.54 | dyoung | (you'll note that this time around I'm being a perfect idiot for the purposes of testing...) |
| 00:48.59 | rwhitby | dyoung: seems to still work for me |
| 00:49.07 | dyoung | doesnt work for me. |
| 00:49.14 | rwhitby | (unsling hdd-data to an empty data partition) |
| 00:49.22 | rwhitby | will try reformatting the disk completely next |
| 00:49.25 | dyoung | jffs-hdd-data works. |
| 00:49.34 | dyoung | but that one is fairly brainless. |
| 00:49.51 | rwhitby | is the rootfs being copied correctly? are the .sda1root flag files being created? |
| 00:49.59 | dyoung | yes and yes. |
| 00:50.22 | rwhitby | is it a slow usb disk thing? |
| 00:50.37 | dyoung | it might be.... |
| 00:50.52 | dyoung | theres are fairly regular disks though. WD. |
| 00:50.54 | dyoung | 160G |
| 00:52.10 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3133.1.1 10openembedded/packages/nslu2-binary-only/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Unslung 4.10-alpha: Added wait-for-quotacheck.patch |
| 00:53.39 | rwhitby | guess we need some more alpha testers to see whether your problem is local or not? |
| 00:54.29 | dyoung | I dunno. |
| 00:55.03 | dyoung | I try with a single disk later |
| 00:55.12 | rwhitby | has that disk ever worked with the switchbox timing before? |
| 00:55.28 | dyoung | I had it unslinged for 2.x |
| 00:55.29 | rwhitby | you said "disks" ? |
| 00:55.43 | rwhitby | this isn't a multi-lun issue is it? |
| 00:55.56 | dyoung | I have 2 identical disks plugged in on port 1 and port 2, so not LUN issue |
| 00:56.02 | rwhitby | oh |
| 01:01.02 | rwhitby | gotta love open source. from 0 to 91 packages for the wl500g in five days. |
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| 01:46.41 | rh2 | what's the wl500g? |
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| 01:57.07 | rwhitby | ~google wl500g |
| 01:59.44 | rwhitby | the wl500gx (deluxe model) is pretty much a slug with wireless |
| 02:00.55 | rwhitby | dyoung: we can get rid of /linuxrc now, right? |
| 02:17.59 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3139 10openembedded/packages/nslu2-binary-only/unslung-rootfs_2.3r25.bb: Removed /linuxrc from unslung - we have better technology now :-) |
| 02:21.46 | dyoung | Yep. |
| 02:39.50 | rwhitby | I'm tempted to remove the specialised options from the usage message of unsling, and just have "disk1" and "disk2" options which map to hdd-data and flash-data respectively |
| 02:40.13 | rwhitby | the other options would remain in the code for those in the know |
| 02:40.52 | dyoung | I need to find a spare disk to test things out on |
| 02:41.01 | dyoung | it doesnt work for me yet with only 1 drive attached |
| 02:42.51 | rwhitby | what do you think about the disk1/disk2 unsling idea? |
| 02:44.04 | dyoung | the list of possible options is rather large. |
| 02:44.35 | dyoung | simple disk1 or disk2 is more intuitive for "Joe User". |
| 02:45.07 | rwhitby | yeah, and with the wait-for-quotacheck patch, putting rootfs and packages on the data partition is safer |
| 02:45.18 | dyoung | What do you think about defaulting to maint mode? |
| 02:45.41 | rwhitby | can't do that - uses too much ram |
| 02:45.43 | dyoung | so you actually have to DO something before making a mess. |
| 02:46.15 | dyoung | Yes, I know, so the first step would be to unsling to something. |
| 02:46.45 | dyoung | so you cant accidentally fill up your jffs2 with junk and make yourself unbootable. |
| 02:47.25 | rwhitby | interesting idea |
| 02:47.40 | rwhitby | so put /.ramdisk in the image |
| 02:47.43 | dyoung | so if you do nothing, its kind of like stock. |
| 02:47.45 | rwhitby | and have unsling remove it |
| 02:48.05 | dyoung | except with a working GENESYS patch. ;-) |
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| 02:50.15 | dyoung | I'm not sure how I feel about that either, but it was a passing thought a few weeks ago. |
| 02:50.42 | rwhitby | hmm - actually we can leave .ramdisk there cause it is a lower priority than the |
| 02:50.50 | rwhitby | disks |
| 02:51.15 | rwhitby | but switchbox will currently drop into jffs2 if the disks don't mount. |
| 02:51.26 | rwhitby | we would need to change that to maintenance instead. |
| 02:51.41 | rwhitby | and then maintenance to jffs2, then jffs2 to recovery |
| 02:52.25 | rwhitby | ah - the only problem is that that makes unsling much more complex, cause it has to then mount the jffs2 to set up the flag file. |
| 02:52.29 | rwhitby | so we won't do it. |
| 02:52.44 | dyoung | oh yeah. |
| 02:53.12 | rwhitby | if people stuff up jff2 before unsling, then they deserve what they get, and they haven't invested much to be too disappointed about a reflash |
| 02:54.12 | rwhitby | but I will simplify unsling with disk1 and disk2 |
| 02:54.22 | dyoung | I wish I could test it. |
| 02:56.31 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3140 10openembedded/packages/nslu2-binary-only/ (unslung-rootfs_2.3r25.bb unslung-rootfs-2.3r25/unsling): Simplified unsling for the casual user. Complex options are available but not advertised in the usage message. |
| 03:04.08 | rwhitby | new copy of 4.10-alpha will be up soon |
| 03:04.14 | rwhitby | back later |
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| 04:48.06 | ChezDude2010 | Not really a developer question, but more than a general. Can anyone tell me if any of the 3 NFS packages for unslung 3.18beta support the map_static option? I've tried with all of them (unfs3, nfs-utils and nfs-server) and none of them seem to know about the option. |
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| 06:34.58 | rwhitby-away | ChezDude2010: dunno |
| 06:49.36 | rwhitby-away | unsling disk1 works |
| 06:51.03 | rwhitby-away | the other thing I'm going to do is remove the /tmp ramdisk and clear /tmp and /mnt/backup on each boot |
| 06:51.27 | rwhitby-away | (remove /tmp ramdisk only if you're loading rootfs from external usb disk) |
| 07:07.30 | rwhitby-away | I think I will remove maintenance mode altogether. The normal situation (unsling rootfs to a disk) allows for reflashing in normal mode through the web interface. The situation where people want to run from jffs2 can be handled by any of the other upgrade modes (telnet into redboot, or touch .ramdisk, or use upslug). |
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| 07:45.05 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3141 10openembedded/packages/nslu2-binary-only/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Unslung 4.11-alpha: Removed maintenance mode, simplified advertised unsling arguments to disk1 or disk2. Removed /tmp ramdisk if unslung to an external disk. Clears /tmp and /mnt/backup on each boot. |
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| 09:40.10 | rwhitby-away | Hmm - seems that removing maintenance mode is not such a good idea. The problem is if you have lots of unslung packages running, and you have very little memory left, then you can upgrade through the web interface. So then you have to remove the hard disk (assuming you don't want to remove all your packages), and then you're back to booting from jffs2 (in which case maintenance mode is required) |
| 09:40.10 | rwhitby-away | . |
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| 09:43.17 | rwhitby-away | s/can upgrade/can't upgrade/ |
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| 10:58.48 | CIA-9 | 03ptweety * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/stow.mk): Stow ready for native only testing. |
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| 12:56.09 | rwhitby-away | Styno (from wl500g) found a candidate for a web interface for Unslung: http://www.verot.net/webtools.htm |
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| 13:44.12 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3141.1.1 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Updated to ipkg 0.99.147, and re-enabled maintenance mode for Unslung 4.12-alpha |
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| 14:36.12 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, THX and CONGRATS on the ipk 99.147 that makes OpenSlug well again |
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| 15:16.45 | CIA-9 | 03g2 07 * r1.3146.1.4 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init_0.10.bb openslug-init-0.10/sysconfsetup): Patch OpenSlug root password to enable ssh for non-serial users |
| 15:16.48 | CIA-9 | 03g2 07 * r1.3146.1.3 10openembedded/packages/meta/openslug-image.bb: Add support for the VFAT modules too |
| 15:16.50 | CIA-9 | 03g2 07 * r1.3146.1.2 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add support for VFAT modules |
| 15:16.53 | CIA-9 | 03g2 07 * r1.3146.1.1 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init-0.10/turnup openslug-init_0.10.bb): Add turnup procedure |
| 15:16.55 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07OPENSLUG_1.8_040305 * r1.3146 10openembedded/: |
| 15:16.56 | CIA-9 | Merge bk://nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 15:16.56 | CIA-9 | into home.(none):/home/bitbake/openembedded |
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| 16:30.16 | rh2 | hello |
| 16:30.18 | rh2 | who's here? |
| 16:30.40 | [g2] | I'm here |
| 16:31.21 | rh2 | do you know how to switch the identification of partitions? i.e., make sdb2 be sdb1 and so forth? |
| 16:32.17 | [g2] | rh2, well that doesn't make much sense, the partitions are ordered on a disk in the partition table |
| 16:32.29 | [g2] | the could be swapped on their mount points |
| 16:32.38 | [g2] | they could |
| 16:33.24 | [g2] | what sw are you running unslung ? openslug ? and what version ? |
| 16:33.58 | rh2 | unslung. i've been trying to format a disk for the NSLU2 manually on anothe rmachine. |
| 16:34.13 | rh2 | and it appears to me that the formatting software i've been using has been showing me the partitions in the reverse order |
| 16:34.21 | rh2 | so my sdb1 has instead become sdb3 |
| 16:35.32 | rh2 | if they're ordered as arranged in a table, i'm not sure that just moving the partition physically will do it; i'll need something that can edit the table directly, unless the table is arranged physically always |
| 16:36.24 | rh2 | what do you think? |
| 16:37.52 | [g2] | I haven't run unslung for a while, but last I checked the disks were originally formatted with the linksys utility |
| 16:38.03 | [g2] | then ppl unsling afterwards |
| 16:38.22 | [g2] | I'm not sure what utility you are attempting to use |
| 16:38.28 | rh2 | well, i like being different |
| 16:38.40 | rh2 | i'm trying to convert what was an NTFS disk without losing the data on it |
| 16:38.43 | [g2] | the partitions used to be 1(data), 2(conf) 3(swap) iirc |
| 16:38.52 | rh2 | that's what i'm trying to achieve |
| 16:38.58 | siddy | rh2, if you're insane enough you could edit the partition-table with fdisk. just erase the whole table and re-do it with exactly the same sectors... |
| 16:39.38 | siddy | it should work, but it's definitely not recommended. |
| 16:39.54 | rh2 | other opinions on the erase-and-redo in fdisk? |
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| 16:41.05 | rh2 | siddy: would the fdisk built into the NSLU2 be able to do that? |
| 16:41.51 | siddy | dunno |
| 16:43.52 | siddy | oh, how about a little trick: just change the device-nodes /dev/sd?? the way you'd like them to be. |
| 16:44.13 | rh2 | that would work |
| 16:44.17 | rh2 | will it survive reboots? |
| 16:44.49 | siddy | once again, dunno. If not you'll find some text-file in /etc which contains all the device-info |
| 16:46.07 | rh2 | do you know if the partition map naturally follows the physical order of the partitions on the disk? |
| 16:46.50 | siddy | it doesn't need to. |
| 16:47.10 | siddy | but some tools (eg partition magic) do it that way. |
| 16:49.14 | [g2] | siddy, so what's new with you ? hacking kernels lately ? |
| 16:49.40 | rh2 | i think patition magic is inclined to reverse the orders |
| 16:50.07 | siddy | [g2], oh, I didn't do any kernel-kacking after I removed most of my alignment-errors. |
| 16:50.49 | siddy | s/kack/hack/ ... lol |
| 16:53.04 | siddy | [g2], my focus went to my new desktop-machine (amd64). I still have some kernel-issues with that sweet box, but I have no clue where to start searching. |
| 16:53.24 | [g2] | cool what kinda amd64 ? |
| 16:53.46 | siddy | 3200+, winchester core |
| 16:54.07 | [g2] | what kinda of mobo ? |
| 16:54.15 | siddy | quite impressive performance compared to my old athlon 800! ;) |
| 16:54.17 | siddy | A8V |
| 16:54.23 | siddy | Asus A8V that is |
| 16:54.42 | [g2] | I've been toying with getting an amd64 |
| 16:54.52 | [g2] | the new duel-cores look exciting |
| 16:55.20 | siddy | does amd already build dual-cores? |
| 16:55.52 | [g2] | nod. They'll be shipping in the next couple weeks from what I read at the inquirer |
| 16:55.53 | [g2] | :) |
| 16:56.11 | [g2] | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22289 |
| 16:56.48 | [g2] | I guess opteron anyway :) |
| 16:57.05 | siddy | ah cool, but I fear the prices will be far beyond a student's budget... ;) |
| 16:57.32 | [g2] | I'd imagine the amd64's aren't far behind |
| 16:57.53 | [g2] | I was actually thinking about a semperon |
| 16:58.26 | [g2] | I'd like to setup the 24/7 gigabit nas |
| 16:58.38 | [g2] | so I'm looking for something fanless |
| 16:58.52 | [g2] | maybe mini-itx |
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| 16:59.58 | siddy | hm.. shuttle build fanless amd-systems. I would have bought one if they were a bit larger... ;) |
| 17:00.34 | [g2] | it's quite a premium for the shuttle systems |
| 17:01.21 | [g2] | I was pricing the mini-itx systems last night and it looked like $300 would get you a great case with power supply and mobo with processor |
| 17:01.30 | [g2] | $300 US that is |
| 17:01.58 | [g2] | 800 Mhz fanless, usb 2.0, .... |
| 17:02.52 | siddy | hm... sounds a bit expensive for 800 MHz... |
| 17:03.23 | [g2] | well the case was nearly $120 :) |
| 17:03.56 | [g2] | actually more like $80 |
| 17:04.13 | [g2] | the 800 fanless with the CF slot was like $19 |
| 17:04.16 | [g2] | $219 |
| 17:06.14 | [g2] | you can get the older ones for $80-100 |
| 17:07.13 | [g2] | it doesn't seem to make sense to me to run PC133 memory in the old ones though |
| 17:07.24 | [g2] | the new ones support DDR |
| 17:08.11 | siddy | hehe, I guess you need some performance to get a good utilization of your gigabit-LAN... ;) |
| 17:08.51 | [g2] | well actually, just multiple 100Mb is fine in my mind |
| 17:09.10 | [g2] | 8-10MB is just a little too slow |
| 17:09.26 | [g2] | although at $80 for the slug I'm not complaining much |
| 17:09.47 | [g2] | I'd still like to nail that EHCI issue |
| 17:10.22 | siddy | oh, that one... there was some guy on lkml some days ago with the same problem. |
| 17:10.52 | [g2] | really ? |
| 17:10.54 | siddy | He was told to use a recent kernel and was never seen again. :( |
| 17:11.40 | [g2] | well it's pretty reproducable, so sooner or later it'll get nailed |
| 17:12.00 | siddy | http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/24/106 |
| 17:13.33 | [g2] | ah.. that x86 too |
| 17:14.13 | siddy | yeah, the only thing in common is the NEC-chip. |
| 17:14.33 | [g2] | and 2.6.9/10/11 |
| 17:14.41 | siddy | nod |
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| 21:18.16 | rwhitby-away | any comments on the unslung 4.x email? |
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| 21:27.55 | rwhitby-away | I just realised that with the wl500g being mipsel, then it is likely that libusb will work properly on the wl500g. |
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| 21:39.35 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/ (sources/ftpd-topfield/Makefile.patch make/ftpd-topfield.mk): Now compiles on wl500g |
| 21:41.52 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added ftpd-topfield for wl500g. |
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| 23:34.56 | dr_nick | hi |
| 23:40.54 | nettie | Hi guys, how do I rebuild a slighty modified openslug image please? |
| 23:58.46 | [g2] | bb openslug-image ? |