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| 00:17.10 | rwhitby-web | ipkg install unslung-feeds |
| 00:20.31 | ka6sox-office | file not found |
| 00:20.43 | rwhitby-web | that was for Wipmac, but it seems he never sticks around for long ... |
| 00:25.48 | RavenHawk | hey, does anyone here know a lot about the configuration files that the NSLU2 creates when it formats a disk, or about the filesystem it creates in general? |
| 00:27.00 | ka6sox-office | RavenHawk, the Wiki talks about it somewhat |
| 00:27.12 | RavenHawk | yeah, i couldn't find what i needed |
| 00:31.02 | rwhitby-web | format a 256MB or larger flash disk in the same drive, then copy the files to the conf partition |
| 00:31.14 | rwhitby-web | s/in the same drive/on the same port/ |
| 00:32.02 | RavenHawk | ok, that's helpful |
| 00:32.26 | RavenHawk | how do i tell the NSLU2 which ext3 partition has the config files and which one has the files for sharing? |
| 00:32.40 | rwhitby-web | argument to unsling |
| 00:33.50 | RavenHawk | don't i care about whether the NSLU2 recognizes the disk as formatted before i install the unslung firmware? |
| 00:35.08 | RavenHawk | (its also telling me no-disk-available with the flash drive in, but i think i can solve that on my own) |
| 00:35.22 | rwhitby-web | install unslung firmare. then use the unslung firmware to format the flash disk on port1. then take the flash disk and your other disk to another machine and copy the conf partition files across. then put your other disk back on port 1 and it should be recognised. |
| 00:35.47 | rwhitby-web | it needs to be unslung 3.x, and a 256MB or greater flash disk in port 1 |
| 00:36.05 | RavenHawk | it doesn't need to know which partition is which? |
| 00:36.07 | rwhitby-web | (or if you have another usb hard disk you can use it instead of the flash disk) |
| 00:36.30 | rwhitby-web | the flash disk will be repartitioned |
| 00:36.53 | rwhitby-web | you then need to match that partition scheme (modulo sizes) on your other disk, and copy the conf partition contents across. |
| 00:37.57 | rwhitby-web | (and you also now have to write a wiki page with the directions on how to do this) |
| 00:38.10 | RavenHawk | oh, if i get it to work i will |
| 00:38.30 | RavenHawk | but it seems to require following the directions to use a flash disk as a main disk |
| 00:38.40 | RavenHawk | and that would require having already unslung and installed fdisk |
| 00:39.35 | rwhitby-web | yes, you need to install unslung, and then format the flash disk through the web interface |
| 00:39.48 | rwhitby-web | it will use the stock fdisk |
| 00:40.14 | RavenHawk | ok...lets see if this works. i'll install unslug but won't unsling... |
| 00:40.27 | rwhitby-web | you can unsling to the flash disk if you like |
| 00:43.17 | rwhitby-web | and there is probably enough room in internal flash to not unsling and still install busybox if you want to do the fdisk stuff on the slug instead of on another machine |
| 00:43.31 | rwhitby-web | you have a couple of options it seems |
| 00:43.33 | RavenHawk | the fdisk stuff has to be on another machine |
| 00:43.44 | RavenHawk | the idea is to convert a drive to work with the NSLU2 without destroying the data |
| 00:43.54 | RavenHawk | i'm making a partition on part of the disk, copying, changing the partitions, etc. |
| 00:44.02 | RavenHawk | i'm going to type up how to do this as we go |
| 00:44.32 | rwhitby-web | right, I'm talking about after you have created your three ext3 partitions on the disk, put all your data in the first one, and marked the third one as swap |
| 00:44.59 | RavenHawk | lets do this one step at a time :) or no more than 3 at a time anyway |
| 00:45.12 | rwhitby-web | after you have prepared that disk like that, then I was describing how to fool the linksys apps into thinking that you actually formatted it on the slug. |
| 00:45.40 | rwhitby-web | the two key things are the files that the linksys apps put in the conf partition, and the entry that the linksys apps put in the SysConf nvram area |
| 00:45.45 | RavenHawk | yes, but i think we were leaving out a step or two |
| 00:46.20 | rwhitby-web | you get the latter either by formatting the flash disk on port1, or by following the fake-out-fdisk steps on the wiki. |
| 00:46.38 | RavenHawk | i think i'll format the flash on port1 |
| 00:46.41 | rwhitby-web | you get the former either by copying the files yourself, or by following the fake-out-fdisk steps on the wiki |
| 00:47.27 | rwhitby-web | the first option (formatting the flash disk, and copying the files yourself) seems safer to me, cause at no time do you hit "format" with your data disk plugged into the slug. |
| 00:47.51 | RavenHawk | right |
| 00:48.01 | RavenHawk | just my thinking...let me do a step or two... |
| 00:48.25 | rwhitby-web | do you have your data disk partitioned right yet, or are you still to do that? |
| 00:49.04 | RavenHawk | still going |
| 00:50.31 | RavenHawk | ok, the install of the firmware started... |
| 00:52.42 | rwhitby-web | I would suggest: 1/ get unslung installed, 2/ format the flash disk, 3/ examine the flash disk partitioning, 4/ turn off the slug :-), 5/ replicate the partitioning on your data disk on another machine (carefully), 6/ copy the conf files from the flash disk to the conf partition on the data disk, 7/ plug the data disk into the slug and see if it is recognised |
| 00:53.19 | rwhitby-web | don't do anything related to your data disk on the slug. if it is not recognised, then take it off again to the other machine and fix it there :-) |
| 00:53.33 | RavenHawk | i agree completely |
| 00:53.41 | RavenHawk | except for the "replicate the partitioning" part. |
| 00:53.45 | RavenHawk | making three partitions is easy |
| 00:54.10 | RavenHawk | the question is how to make them "the same" - i.e., how to tag one as the configuration partition and another as the filesharing partition |
| 00:54.37 | rwhitby-web | first partition is a big ext3 data partition. second partition is a 128MB or so conf partition. third partition is a swap partition (64MB or 128MB should be fine for that too). |
| 00:54.43 | rwhitby-web | all ext3 |
| 00:54.49 | rwhitby-web | there is no other tagging |
| 00:55.00 | RavenHawk | as long as its just sequence, this should be easy... |
| 00:55.07 | rwhitby-web | that's correct |
| 00:55.37 | RavenHawk | ok, time to format the flash... |
| 00:55.41 | rwhitby-web | make the conf partition bigger if you're intending to install lots of packages |
| 00:55.59 | rwhitby-web | (or you can install to the data partition instead if you want) |
| 00:59.42 | rwhitby-web | someone remind me in 10 hours time that I need to fix unsling in 4.x to preserve the /opt and /usr/lib/ipkg directories if someone has already intalled packages on a partition that they then want to copy the rootfs to in Unslung 4.x |
| 01:03.17 | RavenHawk | ok, formatted... we may have to pick up the rest tomorrow |
| 01:03.36 | RavenHawk | the partition conversion will take a while, and frankly i have a ukrainian model on the phone, so i'm not focused |
| 01:06.40 | rwhitby-web | well, I doubt that we can compete with a ukranian model for your attention :-) |
| 01:06.55 | RavenHawk | http://photo.optima.ua/users.php?id=5376 |
| 01:07.15 | RavenHawk | nyet, viy ne mojete (no, you cannot) |
| 01:18.53 | RavenHawk | ok, lets see how long it takes to copy 160 gigs... |
| 01:22.55 | RavenHawk | she's gone, i'm back... |
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| 06:57.00 | CIA-9 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/python.mk: python supports readline, ncurses, and ssl.so, all stripped |
| 06:57.09 | CIA-9 | 03bzhou * 10unslung/sources/python/python-cross-compile1006238.patch: python supports readline, ncurses, and ssl.so, all stripped |
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| 07:34.33 | rwhitby-treo | To accelerate Unslung alpha testing, I have temporarily put a binary on nslu.sf.net/downloads. It's 4.8-alpha. Please add your entry to the database if you are testing it. Please do not make any mention of this on the mailing list - it's an IRC treat only. |
| 07:35.54 | rwhitby-treo | It will be taken down again sometime in the next 24 hours, and it's 8MB (I forgot to compress it before upload) |
| 07:39.13 | rwhitby-treo | (and this announcement is also timed to reward those who read the logs :-) |
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| 07:52.42 | giel | or those awake :) |
| 07:58.20 | odoc | yo |
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| 08:10.39 | jeanfabrice | hi |
| 08:10.54 | jeanfabrice | anybody there ? |
| 08:12.20 | odoc | yes |
| 08:12.25 | jeanfabrice | yeah... |
| 08:13.14 | jeanfabrice | Should I present myself ? Well, I come from chupa.nl forum and Rod add me to the CVS module developper (for the WL500g branch) |
| 08:14.06 | jeanfabrice | And I'm experiencing my first compilation unsing unslung build system |
| 08:14.23 | odoc | hi |
| 08:14.33 | odoc | im not one of the developers |
| 08:14.38 | odoc | just alpha-tester of openslug |
| 08:14.51 | odoc | the developers are dreaming of nslu2 atm ;P |
| 08:15.29 | jeanfabrice | ok... all are from US ? I'm in France |
| 08:16.27 | odoc | im from germany |
| 08:16.57 | jeanfabrice | ok. that's why you're up ! ;) |
| 08:17.02 | odoc | :) |
| 08:18.45 | jeanfabrice | you're using openslug on a nslu2 ? |
| 08:18.59 | odoc | yes |
| 08:19.06 | odoc | tried unslug first |
| 08:19.13 | odoc | everything worked ... too booring |
| 08:19.25 | jeanfabrice | ;) |
| 08:19.27 | odoc | so i switched to openslug :) |
| 08:19.42 | odoc | the main reason was: |
| 08:19.49 | odoc | get my pwc working |
| 08:20.02 | odoc | at 640x480 |
| 08:23.14 | jeanfabrice | is the nslu2 really good ? I really love wireless device and it seems that nslu2 is not wireless |
| 08:23.36 | jeanfabrice | got a WL-HDD from Asus |
| 08:24.17 | odoc | the nslu2 is wired |
| 08:24.36 | odoc | but its a really nice device :) |
| 08:24.47 | odoc | got wrt54 too ... for wireless :) |
| 08:26.12 | odoc | maybe one of my next devices will be a WL500g |
| 08:26.30 | odoc | or its sucessor |
| 08:26.53 | odoc | it should be possible to add a usb-wlan module to the nslu |
| 08:27.32 | odoc | how much is the wl500g ? |
| 08:27.35 | jeanfabrice | should give a look @ wl500gx |
| 08:27.46 | jeanfabrice | around 70€ I think |
| 08:28.13 | odoc | like the nslu |
| 08:29.12 | odoc | gx ? the deluxe version ? |
| 08:33.24 | jeanfabrice | yep |
| 08:33.34 | jeanfabrice | it has more memory |
| 08:33.45 | odoc | i know ... and usb 2.0 |
| 08:33.49 | jeanfabrice | yep |
| 08:33.57 | odoc | i already looked at asus |
| 08:34.03 | odoc | but bought an nslu :) |
| 08:34.07 | jeanfabrice | :) |
| 08:34.17 | jeanfabrice | do you know chupa ? |
| 08:34.24 | odoc | 5 minutes before :) |
| 08:34.38 | jeanfabrice | this is the reference forum for asus wireless stuff |
| 08:34.43 | jeanfabrice | forum.chupa.nl |
| 08:34.52 | odoc | hehe ... and you are the "nylon"-guy ... they talked about yesterday :) |
| 08:35.06 | jeanfabrice | ohhh... yes :) they talk about me ? ;) |
| 08:35.14 | odoc | get the logs :) |
| 08:35.15 | jeanfabrice | in good I hope |
| 08:35.29 | jeanfabrice | Where are the logs ? |
| 08:35.40 | odoc | dunno ... im always online and awake :) |
| 08:35.51 | jeanfabrice | ah ok |
| 08:36.09 | odoc | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23nslu2-linux/ |
| 08:36.32 | odoc | stuff for the next few weeks to read :) |
| 08:39.53 | jeanfabrice | got the yesterday's log |
| 08:45.24 | odoc | what kernel are you using on wl500 ? |
| 08:50.21 | jeanfabrice | custom kernel from Oleg's (main developper of Asus custom firmware) |
| 08:50.35 | odoc | 2.4 or 2.6 ? |
| 08:50.51 | jeanfabrice | 1.9.2.7-4 |
| 08:51.06 | odoc | oh |
| 08:51.13 | jeanfabrice | last one from oleg |
| 08:57.14 | rwhitby-away | jeanfabrice: welcome |
| 08:58.18 | jeanfabrice | hi rod |
| 08:58.52 | jeanfabrice | was speaking a bit with Germany as all US users seems asleep |
| 08:59.17 | jeanfabrice | have also read yesterday's logs of #nslu2-linux ;) |
| 09:00.02 | jeanfabrice | I've a few question on unslung build system |
| 09:00.21 | rwhitby | ask away |
| 09:01.03 | jeanfabrice | what about versionning on modules ? For example, libevent is now 1.x and unslung only has 0.9 |
| 09:02.17 | rwhitby | it is up to the package maintainer to update the package. if you want to update it, contact the package maintainer first. if the maintainer is listed as just "NSLU2 Linux", then any developer is free to update it and check in the new version when it has been tested |
| 09:03.37 | jeanfabrice | won't it break depending packages if I update it ? as I can only test it on wl500g |
| 09:04.01 | jeanfabrice | that's why I did'nt touch to the control files for libevent |
| 09:04.05 | rwhitby | odoc: wl500g kernel is 2.4 |
| 09:04.19 | odoc | tnx rwhitby |
| 09:04.36 | odoc | so there's need to backport pwc to 2.4 |
| 09:04.38 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: usually the depending packages don't break. |
| 09:04.51 | jeanfabrice | oups : sorry for misunderstanding the question. Not using linux very often |
| 09:05.24 | rwhitby | odoc: you can think of Oleg's firmware for the wl500g as being just like Unslung. Retain compatibility with stock kernel and firmware, and add ability for new features. |
| 09:05.58 | rwhitby | My main contribution to Oleg's firmware was getting the BigPond heartbeat to work for Australian cable users, and just recently to add the ability to use Unslung packages. |
| 09:07.26 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: feel free to update libevent to 1.0 if you like. |
| 09:07.27 | odoc | supporting pwc at 640x480 would be a nice feature in unslung |
| 09:07.42 | odoc | nobody tried to use the new pwc on 2.4 ? |
| 09:07.50 | rwhitby | odoc: the wl500g has webcam support built-in :-) |
| 09:08.04 | odoc | :( |
| 09:08.06 | odoc | thats lame |
| 09:08.08 | odoc | :) |
| 09:08.31 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: nslu2-linux developers are all around the world |
| 09:08.36 | rwhitby | ~slugtime |
| 09:08.37 | jbot | methinks slugtime is 40 hour days 10 hours in 4 timezones with overlap |
| 09:08.38 | odoc | i dont like thinks working out of the box |
| 09:09.19 | jeanfabrice | rod : ok. And what about my --target issue. Can I freely discard it from my Makefile and hope it will still build on nslu2 ? I guess yes but ... |
| 09:10.28 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: I expect so. Things like that will either work on both or fail on both (since the armeb and mipsel are both no x86, then they are usually equally badly supported by the original makefiles). |
| 09:10.48 | jeanfabrice | ok. fine |
| 09:10.49 | odoc | rwhitby: ha .. .but it doesn't support pwc ... so it would be an add on :) |
| 09:11.21 | rwhitby | in any case, your nylon package has been built first for the wl500g, so you get to make it work for the wl500g and it's up to someone else to get it working for the nslu2 if it doesn't work straight away :-) |
| 09:11.37 | rwhitby | odoc: I thought Oleg's firmware supports pwc |
| 09:11.45 | rwhitby | see wl500g.dyndns.org |
| 09:12.09 | jeanfabrice | other question ? |
| 09:12.59 | jeanfabrice | well I'vre read around nslu2 web site and I foudn somewhere that conf files should go in /opt/etc/<foo>/foo.conf |
| 09:13.05 | rwhitby | yep, the deal is if you see me as "rwhitby" then I am open for questions. if you see me as "rwhitby-away", then you can still ask, but I may not be able to answer :-) |
| 09:13.24 | jeanfabrice | template.mk seems to rely on /opt/etc/foo.conf |
| 09:13.25 | rwhitby | depends - if there is a single conf file, then /opt/etc/foo.conf is fine |
| 09:13.30 | jeanfabrice | ok |
| 09:13.39 | jeanfabrice | crystal clear |
| 09:15.01 | jeanfabrice | no more question at this time. thank you :) |
| 09:15.21 | jeanfabrice | ~slugtime |
| 09:15.22 | jbot | from memory, slugtime is 40 hour days 10 hours in 4 timezones with overlap |
| 09:15.42 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: developer questions are always welcome here. |
| 09:16.18 | rwhitby | and you've contributed a package which has been built for the wl500g and nslu2 as well, so you should consider yourself one of the team |
| 09:16.22 | jeanfabrice | yep, yep. but as I just begin, I don't want to be too booring |
| 09:17.39 | rwhitby | BTW, if you want to move other packages from the WL500G_PACKAGES_JUST_REQUIRING_CONTROL_GENERATION to WL500G_PACKAGES in the top-level Makefile by adding the control generation code to the foo.mk, then please feel free :-) |
| 09:18.35 | jeanfabrice | See your yesterday's message :) |
| 09:18.44 | rwhitby | I did about 30 of them the other night - the rest is up to you and other wl500g developers :-) |
| 09:18.57 | rwhitby | All new packages will use the updated template, but we have a back-log to get through. |
| 09:19.40 | odoc | for the log |
| 09:19.52 | odoc | wl500g supports pwc ... but without decompression-module |
| 09:19.54 | rwhitby | There's almost 50 packages which just need that control file generation (which takes about 5 minutes maximum per package) to be ready for the wl500g. |
| 09:19.55 | odoc | like unslung |
| 09:20.43 | jeanfabrice | will co unslung CVS and see whats package are easy to port into control file generation |
| 09:21.49 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Moved libevent to wl500g packages, as the control file generation is done. |
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| 09:36.47 | jeanfabrice | what about control files that have @CONSTANT@ in ? |
| 09:37.40 | jeanfabrice | like zlib one's |
| 09:38.34 | dyoung-zzzz | <rwhitby-web>someone remind me in 10 hours time that I need to fix unsling in 4.x to preserve the /opt and /usr/lib/ipkg directories if someone has already intalled packages on a partition that they then want to copy the rootfs to in Unslung 4.x |
| 09:38.55 | dyoung-zzzz | I think that was around 10 hrs ago. ;-) |
| 09:39.19 | odoc | dyoung-logger the pwc patch is ready to grab |
| 09:43.44 | dyoung | Okay adding it now. |
| 09:45.35 | odoc | mhh .. cron fails for openslug ? |
| 09:50.33 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: when the control file is generated, we remove that file from sources/.... |
| 09:50.43 | rwhitby | see the template for the latest code |
| 09:50.54 | rwhitby | dyoung: thx for the reminder :-) |
| 09:52.05 | jeanfabrice | ok. I've build nylon.mk from template.mk (last one I guess). I was just estimating the time it can take to port zlib makefile into the new template |
| 09:52.54 | rwhitby | you just need to add the control file generation code. |
| 09:53.11 | jeanfabrice | cool |
| 09:53.24 | rwhitby | do a CVS diff on the libevent.mk file to see the lines which need to be added, and then copy that over from the template and modify it to suit. |
| 09:53.51 | rwhitby | if you really want to update it full to the new template feel free :-) |
| 09:54.19 | jeanfabrice | Every thing seems easy listenning you... You know I only type my first CVS command 3 days ago |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-9 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.3076.1.1 10openembedded/packages/pwc/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pwc: Added endian patch, bumped the version |
| 09:57.07 | dyoung | odoc, pushed. if you have a chance, can you test it please? |
| 09:57.15 | odoc | on my way :) |
| 09:58.49 | dyoung | rwhitby, I noticed a new portmap bb is in there now too, should we update to the new version (5-9 vs our 5-7) |
| 09:58.59 | dyoung | I dunno what the changes were. |
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| 10:08.38 | rwhitby | probably :-) |
| 10:08.40 | rwhitby | bbiab |
| 10:10.04 | dyoung | okay I did a bk cp portmap-unslung_5-7 portmap-unslung_5-9 and it builds. didnt test it yet though. |
| 10:11.01 | dyoung | (the diff of portmap_5-7.bb to portmap_5-9.bb showed no changes because it relies on ${PV} |
| 10:11.11 | dyoung | so making assumptions for ours. |
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| 10:33.35 | CIA-9 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.3116 10openembedded/packages/portmap/portmap-unslung_5-9.bb: Added portmap-unslung_5-9.bb |
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| 10:47.31 | odoc | dyoung: pwc is working |
| 10:48.23 | dyoung | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 10:48.24 | jbot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 10:49.23 | odoc | :) |
| 10:49.38 | dyoung | Cool, I dont s uppose you have a spca5xx lying around...? |
| 10:52.05 | rwhitby | dyoung: I wonder if we could merge portmap-unslung back into portmap now that we know how to do the distro-specific tricks .... |
| 10:52.54 | odoc | wow ... long list of cams |
| 10:56.17 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added sqlite to wl500g packages. |
| 10:56.52 | rwhitby | I'm going to set up a wl500g feed on ipkg.nslu2-linux.org .... |
| 10:57.01 | odoc | all i have is a creative webcam go |
| 10:57.07 | odoc | no clue what chip is inside |
| 10:57.28 | dyoung | Hmm, I'm not sure. Are those tricks applicable if we're including it on the rootfs? |
| 10:57.55 | dyoung | odoc, I'm basicalyl feeling lazy about debugging it for my spca5xx. |
| 10:59.34 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added the wl500g feed location. |
| 11:03.15 | odoc | my creative is using W996[7,8]CF |
| 11:03.25 | odoc | so there isn't any spca5xx around |
| 11:03.29 | odoc | get yourself a pwc :) |
| 11:04.20 | dyoung | drat. |
| 11:04.27 | dyoung | I cant find a cheap pwc here. |
| 11:04.34 | dyoung | The cheap one is $99USD. |
| 11:04.57 | dyoung | as opposed to my $30 spca. heh. |
| 11:05.29 | dyoung | I had most of it patched around 3 weeks ago; but I stupidly blew it away when I rebuilt something. |
| 11:08.01 | odoc | quickcam zoom ... 5 pack ... 256 USD |
| 11:08.04 | odoc | at amazon |
| 11:08.16 | odoc | perfekt for your 360 degree :) |
| 11:09.43 | dyoung | true. |
| 11:11.16 | odoc | pcvc720k iss about 45eur |
| 11:13.33 | odoc | pcvc830k also |
| 11:14.01 | dyoung | see, thats not too bad. I cant get those models here unfortunately... |
| 11:15.02 | odoc | i'll send you a container ... |
| 11:15.11 | odoc | you can do some biz with it :) |
| 11:15.19 | odoc | selling nslu2-pwc packages ... |
| 11:16.17 | odoc | wow ... the 830 should do 1280x960 |
| 11:18.00 | odoc | argg ... the 840 |
| 11:19.17 | dyoung | dont laugh too hard, its been done before. |
| 11:19.50 | dyoung | (sending containers of stuff transpacific full of stuff) |
| 11:19.55 | dyoung | okay that was redundant. |
| 11:19.56 | dyoung | heh |
| 11:20.17 | odoc | where are you from ? |
| 11:24.06 | rwhitby | ka6sox-office: ping |
| 11:24.15 | dyoung | Hawaii. |
| 11:24.25 | dyoung | its impossible to find stuff here. |
| 11:24.55 | dyoung | rwhitby, do you use a 'scope? |
| 11:24.55 | rwhitby | heh - probably not as bad as here .... |
| 11:25.16 | rwhitby | tele or oscillo ? |
| 11:25.23 | dyoung | oscillo. |
| 11:25.48 | rwhitby | not usually, why? I'm more a logic analyser guy :-) |
| 11:26.08 | odoc | if i ever went to hawaii ... i will bring a bag full of stuff ;P |
| 11:26.53 | dyoung | rwhitby, I need one of those too. What brand do you prefer? |
| 11:27.10 | dyoung | I've been keeping my eyes open for stuff at auction... |
| 11:27.17 | dyoung | odoc, cool! |
| 11:28.01 | dyoung | the only hanse Ive bee to is hansestadt hamburg. |
| 11:28.11 | odoc | thats where im living :) |
| 11:28.24 | dyoung | wow neat. |
| 11:28.27 | rwhitby | dyoung: HP or Tek |
| 11:28.53 | odoc | for the log: the 1280x960 are only interpolated |
| 11:29.22 | dyoung | rwhitby, I've got my eyes on the TDS2012 right now. Does anyone you know use one in that series that has something good/bad/ugly to say about it? |
| 11:29.31 | dyoung | (its a tek oscope) |
| 11:29.40 | odoc | i've only got an old philips |
| 11:29.41 | rwhitby | nope |
| 11:29.49 | dyoung | drat. |
| 11:30.06 | dyoung | maybe ka6sox will have an opinion. |
| 11:47.31 | CIA-9 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.3116.1.1 10openembedded/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: |
| 11:47.32 | CIA-9 | openslug-packages.bb: |
| 11:47.32 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.52 | dyoung | odoc, that should get it into the feed eventually. |
| 11:50.48 | dyoung | So is a openslug beta release still a dream? |
| 11:52.50 | dyoung | rwhitby, I forgot to answer the question. I'm wondering what oscope people like. My poor Tek 2246 is giving up. |
| 12:06.55 | rwhitby | pwc is now in the feed |
| 12:08.09 | rwhitby | dyoung: dunno about openslug beta ... [g2] seems to be distracted by his new dev board .... |
| 12:08.51 | dyoung | I think we have almost 30 alpha testers. |
| 12:09.57 | rwhitby | yep, just needs that final push to clean up all the loose ends and release it. [g2] is still the release manager. |
| 12:10.27 | dyoung | [g2] ping |
| 12:11.16 | dyoung | Did someone write opensling yet? |
| 12:11.28 | rwhitby | nope |
| 12:11.44 | rwhitby | which reminds me that I need to make that fix to unsling ... |
| 12:11.50 | dyoung | should be able to copy/paste most of it from unsling eh |
| 12:12.36 | dyoung | the one thing thats kind of unresolved is the case of multiple disks. its fairly random at this point which one gets assigned sda |
| 12:24.37 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Removed muxsshssl from wl500g packages. |
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| 14:23.53 | rwhitby | dyoung: unsling changes pushed - needs testing |
| 14:23.58 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3120 10openembedded/packages/nslu2-binary-only/unslung-rootfs-2.3r25/unsling: Updated unsling to preserve an existing ipkg database on the target disk. |
| 14:45.07 | rwhitby | ok, that seems to work fine. |
| 14:45.38 | rwhitby | Now we just need some README updates and we'll be ready for a beta. |
| 14:49.21 | rwhitby | night all |
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| 15:08.34 | giel | why did i misread "jeanfabri" as jennifer? |
| 15:13.45 | odoc | maybe you are wishing a girl joins the dev team ? |
| 15:13.58 | odoc | you should ask S. Freud ;P |
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| 15:19.43 | giel | probably something like that, yeah :) |
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| 15:26.57 | giel | hhehe |
| 15:27.03 | giel | i type 'webcam linux howto' in google |
| 15:27.14 | giel | and first hit is how to hook up a webcam to the slug |
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| 15:27.46 | odoc | hehe |
| 15:27.52 | odoc | google++ |
| 15:33.10 | nettie | here is the 5th link |
| 15:33.19 | nettie | still something anyway ;) |
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| 15:57.50 | caplink-laptop | hm, www.nslu2-linux.org seems to be down... |
| 16:00.06 | odoc | here too |
| 16:05.16 | nettie | yup |
| 16:05.19 | nettie | here too |
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| 21:09.28 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added readline to wl500g packages. |
| 21:10.13 | rwhitby | last chance to get the 4.8-alpha binary from nslu.sf.net/downloads before I remove it .... |
| 21:11.01 | caplink811-away | stay |
| 21:13.25 | caplink811-away | go ;-) |
| 21:15.15 | rwhitby | make sure you add yourself to the database. Please don't discuss the alpha binary on the list - it is an IRC treat only. |
| 21:15.21 | eno | how do i trigger an updated package to be uploaded? |
| 21:15.38 | rwhitby | send a /msg to lp30 |
| 21:15.39 | caplink811-away | k |
| 21:15.42 | rwhitby | jp30 |
| 21:24.50 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added expat and libjpeg to wl500g packages. |
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| 21:27.21 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libjpeg.mk: Updated for control file generation. |
| 21:28.49 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/expat.mk: Updated for control file generation. |
| 21:32.22 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ (expat/control libjpeg/control): Removed generated control files |
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| 22:39.46 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/nylon/nylon.patch: |
| 22:50.30 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/nylon/nylon.patch: suppress configure patch, change conf file location |
| 22:51.53 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/nylon.mk: suppress configure patch, change conf file location, update control generation var |
| 22:54.13 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/nylon.mk: |
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| 22:59.46 | CIA-9 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote minicom, sqlite, nylon |
| 23:06.49 | jf-away | Should I update top Makefile when updating modules to control generation ? |
| 23:08.38 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/zlib.mk: Update to control generation |
| 23:12.01 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/zlib/control: Update to control generation |
| 23:16.22 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/nylon/nylon.conf-dist: |
| 23:19.53 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice-away: yes, please update the top-level wl500g_packages variable when you update packages. |
| 23:21.50 | rwhitby | for zlib, it was already there using the sed method. I see you've updated it to the generation method. Excellent - thx. |
| 23:22.19 | rwhitby | BTW, if you change anything in the package, remember to increment the IPK_VERSION so that it get's rebuilt and people get the new version when they type "ipk upgrade" |
| 23:22.47 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/nylon.mk: Bumped the IPK version. |
| 23:23.36 | jeanfabrice | rod: ok |
| 23:24.09 | rwhitby | jeanfabrice: for zlib.mk, you forgot to include the parts which actually make the control file. |
| 23:24.18 | jeanfabrice | oups... |
| 23:24.22 | jeanfabrice | let me correct it |
| 23:25.00 | rwhitby | The section which says "This rule creates a control file ..." and then replace the sed with a call to that target. |
| 23:25.41 | rwhitby | There are three places in the .mk file which need to be changed to convert to control file generation. Only then can you remove the control file from the repository. |
| 23:29.39 | rwhitby | BTW, you probably don't need the nylon.patch, as it should be handled by passing --prefix=/opt to the configure script |
| 23:30.54 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/zlib.mk: |
| 23:31.33 | jeanfabrice | yep yep... all that is not very easy at beginning ;) but very interesting ! |
| 23:32.23 | rwhitby | we all learn as we go .... |
| 23:32.56 | rwhitby | I've confirmed that you can remove nylon.patch from the .mk file and the sources dir |
| 23:33.15 | jeanfabrice | ok, will check it |
| 23:34.57 | rwhitby | I think you also forgot to check in nylon.conf in the sources/nylon dir |
| 23:35.40 | rwhitby | "cvs update" will tell you if you have any modified or added files which you have not checked in yet. |
| 23:35.54 | jeanfabrice | Humm this is strange . I though it was done |
| 23:36.02 | rwhitby | it is good to have a clean output from cvs update before you are finished on a package |
| 23:36.42 | rwhitby | did you "cvs add" the new file before "cvs commit" ? |
| 23:38.14 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/nylon/ (nylon.conf nylon.patch): |
| 23:38.45 | CIA-9 | 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/nylon.mk: |
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| 23:40.10 | jeanfabrice | I'm using a windows cvs client as I would like to quickly test how difficult cvs managment is without having also the difficulty to learn command line |
| 23:40.52 | jeanfabrice | Maybe it's not the better client. |
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| 23:41.12 | jeanfabrice | You use command-line cvs or win32 client ? |
| 23:41.33 | rwhitby | linux command line in CoLinux on a windows laptop |
| 23:41.44 | rwhitby | feed is now updated with new nylon |
| 23:42.06 | jeanfabrice | is everything I broke repaired now ? ;) |
| 23:42.17 | jeanfabrice | fell tired... 1:45am there |
| 23:42.22 | rwhitby | you can try "ipkg update" and "ipkg upgrade" to see if it installs the new version automatically |
| 23:42.47 | jeanfabrice | have to had the feed to my ipkg conf |
| 23:42.59 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/zlib.mk: Bumped the IPK version. |
| 23:44.05 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/zlib.mk: Updated the ipk target to remove old versions (as per template). |
| 23:44.46 | rwhitby | the second wasn't your fault - I just need to do that on really old packages that don't have that line. |
| 23:46.21 | rwhitby | back later - saturday morning kid's sport ... |
| 23:47.09 | ka6sox-office | rwhitby-away, you rang? |
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