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| 08:51.39 | dyoung-zzzz | morning sunshine. |
| 08:51.57 | rwhitby | g'day |
| 08:52.57 | ka6sox | howdy |
| 08:53.21 | dyoung-zzzz | I broke down and bougt a spca5xx webcam today |
| 08:53.33 | dyoung-zzzz | so spca5xx is pushed. |
| 08:54.06 | dyoung-zzzz | now I need to identify some program to grab from it. |
| 08:54.54 | rwhitby | how much? |
| 08:56.15 | rwhitby | just about to push my fstab fixes |
| 08:57.52 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3084 10openembedded/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: |
| 08:57.52 | CIA-1 | Merge bk://nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 08:57.52 | CIA-1 | into home.(none):/home/bitbake/openembedded |
| 08:58.03 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3080.1.1 10openembedded/packages/base-files/ (base-files/openslug/fstab base-files_3.0.14.bb): Changed base-files/nslu2 to base-files/openslug, and fixed a couple of errors in the fstab. |
| 08:58.25 | dyoung-zzzz | It was $30. |
| 09:00.10 | dyoung-zzzz | Yeah, if I get back on the Unslung Bus, i might be motivated to do some heavy lifting with the module thing. |
| 09:05.59 | rwhitby | yeah - it's time to do that .... |
| 09:08.16 | dyoung | Anyone know of a good reference of typical endian issues and how to repair them? |
| 09:16.17 | perlguru | http://www.netrino.com/Publications/Glossary/Endianness.html |
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| 10:40.28 | dyoung | perlguru thanks! |
| 10:40.51 | perlguru | well, it might help to get some insight |
| 10:42.42 | dyoung | I understand the problem, I just don t have a understanding of how it typically manifests itself in code. I'm basically being lazy because I dont wanna think about it. ;-) |
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| 11:04.24 | wipmac | did any1 try the traffic-shaping on the nslu2 as suggested in the HowTo'S? Is it working well? |
| 11:13.16 | siddy | wipmac, very well. ;) |
| 11:13.41 | wipmac | you made it, right? on which unslung version is it based? |
| 11:14.46 | siddy | oh, to be honest, I don't really remember. must have been some beta of 3.17 or 18 |
| 11:15.36 | wipmac | areyou running your slug with unslung or openslug? |
| 11:15.47 | siddy | openslug |
| 11:16.06 | wipmac | working well? :) |
| 11:27.31 | wipmac | siddy: may i ask you something about traffic to/from nslu2 and the net? |
| 11:27.41 | siddy | of course. |
| 11:29.50 | wipmac | look, i have btget (as part of libbt) running. i know i cant manage bandwidth with the "normal" unslung. so i have like 3 kb upload and 20 kb download on a normal dsl-line. but after like 24 hours or so it all gets slowed down to some bytes/sec up & download. and if i open a new ssh window and try "ipkg update" there is no reply..so something must be stalled.. what u think of this situation? |
| 11:31.42 | wipmac | oops..i confused up and download! its theother way around |
| 11:32.03 | siddy | hm, strange. dunno, can't really explain this behaviour. |
| 11:32.09 | siddy | 20kb/s upload? |
| 11:32.13 | wipmac | after reboot things are fine again |
| 11:32.29 | wipmac | 20 kb yes, they eat up my full upload bandwidth |
| 11:32.51 | wipmac | nothing else working..so you know why i wanna implement your traffic shaping concept |
| 11:33.15 | siddy | you are on a normal 128kbit telekom-line? |
| 11:33.28 | wipmac | yep, soits like 16-20 kb |
| 11:34.42 | siddy | yep, you have a line-limit of 16kbyte/s upload, but you send 20kbyte/s. so someone's buffers will terribly fill up (i.e. the router's buffers or even the modem's buffers) and communication will get ugly... ;) |
| 11:35.21 | siddy | but it shouldn't stall totally imho. |
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| 11:37.07 | wip | jetzt nur noh schaun obs als screen im hintergrund laeuft |
| 11:37.17 | wip | oops |
| 11:37.23 | siddy | :) |
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| 12:19.05 | rwhitby-away | php is installing 18 packages and counting. I never imagined that unslung packages would ever get this sophisticated ... |
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| 13:46.16 | giel | uh yeah, bye |
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| 19:11.38 | chrt1 | my first openslug 1.7 samba stability test.... |
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| 19:14.22 | chrta | the box crashed :( |
| 19:14.45 | [g2] | ~logs |
| 19:14.46 | jbot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 19:15.27 | chrta | i cannot switch it off via the button |
| 19:21.19 | chrta | i received a kernel panic message via the serial line, should i save it for anyone? |
| 19:32.52 | siddy-away | chrta, post it on the wiki, perhaps it's the same crash I am experiencing when torrenting. |
| 19:38.19 | chrta | on what page should i add it? |
| 19:41.07 | siddy-away | dunno, create a new one. |
| 20:00.03 | chrta | ok,how do i add a page to the wiki? |
| 20:01.46 | siddy-away | hehe, just go to http://nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Openslug/YourChoice and edit the page |
| 20:02.11 | siddy-away | s/Openslug/OpenSlug/ |
| 20:02.49 | chrta | who renames the page? |
| 20:03.09 | siddy-away | ? just substitute "YourChoice" with the right name. |
| 20:04.06 | chrta | oh, good |
| 20:16.44 | chrta | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelPanic |
| 20:17.29 | chrta | but i don't know how to remove the questionmarks from some items and how to use monospace for many lines |
| 20:19.38 | siddy-away | hm... could you try to reproduce the crash with kallsyms enabled? |
| 20:20.15 | chrta | where do i enable kallsyms? in defconfig |
| 20:20.20 | siddy-away | yep |
| 20:22.31 | chrta | kallsyms=y or m? |
| 20:22.41 | [g2] | chrta, I think you can look up the addresses in your map |
| 20:23.53 | chrta | where do i find it? |
| 20:25.37 | [g2] | I'd guess it be System.map in the tmp/work/openslug-kernel-2.6.11.2-r2?..... |
| 20:26.28 | siddy-away | or /proc/kallsym on the slug |
| 20:26.47 | siddy-away | kallsyms even |
| 20:26.57 | [g2] | siddy-away, I think the defconfig turns that off |
| 20:27.31 | [g2] | I guess the names for linking may be there |
| 20:27.33 | siddy-away | really? why do you turn everything off that might be useful for debuging? I thought we were in alpha-stadium... |
| 20:27.49 | [g2] | siddy-away, because EHCI didn't fit |
| 20:28.03 | chrta | found it on my host |
| 20:30.23 | chrta | which adresses should i look for in the System.map? the PC or the Backtrace adresses? |
| 20:31.15 | siddy-away | PC will be a good start |
| 20:31.28 | [g2] | :) |
| 20:32.13 | chrta | PC adress not found in System.map :( |
| 20:33.10 | [g2] | lr : [<c0135500>] |
| 20:33.21 | [g2] | I'd guess that's the link register or return address |
| 20:33.22 | chrta | fond it, it's between 2 functions |
| 20:33.36 | siddy-away | chrta, you have to search for the maximum lower bound of PC |
| 20:34.00 | [g2] | chrta, what are the functions ? |
| 20:34.07 | chrta | yes, it's c0134ab8 t qh_completions |
| 20:34.24 | chrta | the nex would be c0134ee0 t end_unlink_async |
| 20:34.31 | chrta | ..next.. |
| 20:35.01 | chrta | should i add my System.map to the wiki page? |
| 20:35.11 | [g2] | where's the return address pointing |
| 20:35.30 | chrta | this is lr? |
| 20:35.58 | [g2] | The System.map would be helpful, I don't think there's a whole bunch of secret stuff in there other than your host and maybe user names and stuff like that |
| 20:36.02 | siddy-away | oh, qh_completions is in ehci... |
| 20:36.22 | chrta | c013541c t ehci_work |
| 20:36.22 | chrta | c0135b44 t ehci_hub_suspend |
| 20:36.29 | chrta | between this to functions |
| 20:36.37 | chrta | i add it |
| 20:37.26 | [g2] | chrta you don't by chance have a usb2.0-to-ethernet adapter do you ? |
| 20:37.37 | [g2] | and one of your usb ports open |
| 20:38.22 | chrta | no usb ethernet adapter around.. |
| 20:39.05 | chrta | System.map file are about 14000 lines... |
| 20:39.14 | chrta | i think i don't add it |
| 20:41.12 | siddy-away | chrta, could you run ksymoops on the oops and the System.map? It would give us all the symbols in the stackdump. |
| 20:41.18 | [g2] | well I don't know, but I doubt that since the kernel it "Tainted" with the Intel drivers that ppl on the arm linux ml will even look at the problem |
| 20:42.16 | [g2] | I'd think you can run the samba sever with a usb2.0 usbnet adapter and produce the same problem |
| 20:42.31 | [g2] | however the kernel would not be "Tainted" |
| 20:43.06 | [g2] | and then the kernel hacker wouldn't have an excuse for not looking at it, except that it's could be a samba bug |
| 20:43.19 | chrta | tainted means a non gpl module is loaded? |
| 20:43.32 | [g2] | proprietary |
| 20:44.03 | chrta | btw what mean lr? l? register |
| 20:44.15 | [g2] | usually link register |
| 20:44.49 | chrta | ah, that's new to me |
| 20:45.14 | chrta | should i include some backtrace adresses, too? |
| 20:45.29 | chrta | in the wiki System.map part? |
| 20:57.00 | chrta | siddy-away: sorry, missed your msg. |
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| 21:02.33 | j0n | When I use slugimage on the openslug image, should ramdisk.gz be only 208Kb? |
| 21:11.53 | [g2] | j0n, i'm pretty sure the ramdisk.gz is switchbox |
| 21:12.25 | [g2] | j0n, What are you trying to do with OpenSlug |
| 21:17.16 | chrta | i added the output of ksymoops to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelPanic |
| 21:22.13 | [g2] | thx |
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| 21:27.22 | giel | fi-na-ly i've got my registration certificate |
| 21:27.23 | giel | for catr |
| 21:27.25 | giel | car* |
| 21:30.14 | siddy-away | giel, congrats!! |
| 21:30.48 | siddy-away | so, now you can import it? |
| 21:30.53 | giel | it's already imported |
| 21:30.56 | giel | this was the last step |
| 21:31.07 | giel | first thing tomorrow i can get my license plates |
| 21:31.21 | siddy-away | ah, cool. |
| 21:31.47 | giel | i feel like a kid the night before its birthday |
| 21:32.01 | giel | only, the present is somewhat more expensive, and i have to pay for it myself |
| 21:32.04 | giel | :) |
| 21:32.15 | siddy-away | lol |
| 21:33.01 | giel | heh, we dutchies sure showed that shaktar guys, ey :) |
| 21:33.07 | giel | quarter finals, here we come |
| 21:33.08 | giel | :P |
| 21:34.38 | siddy-away | ? alkmaar won again? |
| 21:35.06 | giel | uhu |
| 21:35.14 | giel | 3-1, and 2-1 in the return |
| 21:35.25 | giel | 1-3 and 2-1, that is |
| 21:35.40 | siddy-away | cool, I hope they'll win the cup, so we can say "we shot a goal againt the cup-winner!" ;) |
| 21:35.42 | giel | i can't believe it |
| 21:35.48 | dyoung | After some poking around, this article seems pretty good. |
| 21:35.50 | dyoung | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5783 |
| 21:36.01 | dyoung | regarding endian stuff. |
| 21:36.12 | dyoung | I still dont know what the story is with this spca driver though. |
| 21:37.10 | giel | bah, endian-ness is teh suck |
| 21:38.56 | dyoung | Yes, it is. |
| 21:39.47 | dyoung | The gist of it is /proc/bus/usb/devices tells me the camera is identifying the way its supposed to, but the camera driver says it aint. so theres some mistmatch someplace. Giving me a headache. |
| 21:40.34 | giel | sorry, i would have helped you thinking about it, but my thinking-credits are all gone for today |
| 21:40.41 | giel | had sucky problems at work |
| 21:41.19 | giel | gave me a headache already |
| 21:41.48 | dyoung | Bummers. |
| 21:44.48 | giel | thanx |
| 21:44.58 | giel | was already trying that :) |
| 21:46.16 | giel | hey, the CELF is organising a meeting the day before OLS |
| 21:46.19 | giel | in ottawa |
| 21:53.10 | dyoung | Are you involved with a CELF member? |
| 21:53.33 | kergoth | hmm, too bad i quit TI, so by OLS i'll not be a member of CELF anymore :) |
| 21:54.09 | dyoung | I tried begging some contacts about becoming a CELF Member affiliate, but so far no luck. ;-) |
| 21:55.14 | giel | well, i work for a CELF member |
| 21:55.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:55.19 | giel | i'm not actively involved myself |
| 21:55.30 | giel | but as i'm going to OLS, they asked me if i could go to that meeting too |
| 21:55.46 | giel | i am doing research for CE-ish stuff |
| 21:56.25 | giel | and, oh yeah, i'm a speaker at OLS :) |
| 21:58.43 | kergoth | i should really submit an abstract to present about OE next year |
| 21:59.14 | giel | yeah, too bad we thought too late of a BoF |
| 21:59.25 | giel | an OE BoF would really have been nice |
| 21:59.58 | giel | well, next year |
| 22:00.03 | kergoth | should do an informal oe gettogether at the very least. beer is our friend |
| 22:01.25 | giel | well, i'm in favour |
| 22:01.47 | dyoung | Beer is Good. |
| 22:02.11 | giel | i take it you're coming to OLS as well kergoth? |
| 22:02.34 | kergoth | most likely.. just quit my job though, so finances are a bit up in the air. need to decide soon and get registered |
| 22:02.52 | giel | reminds me to poke ppl to get me a flight and hotel reservation |
| 22:02.58 | giel | better early than too late |
| 22:03.02 | kergoth | indeed |
| 22:03.05 | giel | and a rental car |
| 22:03.07 | kergoth | staying at les suites? |
| 22:03.13 | giel | yeah most likely |
| 22:03.21 | kergoth | nice place. |
| 22:04.23 | giel | i hope my talk won't be friday morning |
| 22:05.03 | giel | hey, but why'd you quit TI? |
| 22:05.16 | giel | or is it something you rather not talk about? |
| 22:05.32 | kergoth | bored out of my fucking mind |
| 22:05.39 | kergoth | churning out drivers day after day isnt my cup of tea |
| 22:05.50 | giel | hm yeah |
| 22:05.50 | kergoth | despite the cool hardware, one framebuffer driver is much like another |
| 22:05.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:06.04 | giel | you were just a software engineer> |
| 22:06.06 | giel | >=? |
| 22:06.19 | kergoth | yeah. 2.6 kernel dev for ti's OMAP platforms |
| 22:06.23 | kergoth | mostly drivers |
| 22:06.24 | giel | ic |
| 22:06.43 | kergoth | couldve done board bringup, but i usually dont work _that_ close to the hardware |
| 22:06.44 | giel | try to find some nice R&D job, with the emphasis on R |
| 22:06.50 | kergoth | yeah, tahts what i'm leaning towards |
| 22:07.06 | kergoth | for now i'm going back to MN, where i own a townhouse. crash there with my dad for a few months while i try to figure out what i want to do |
| 22:07.15 | giel | if you consider moving to the netherlands, we've got some job openings :) |
| 22:07.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:07.35 | kergoth | erik andersen recommended i talk to nokia over in finland, their r&d folks |
| 22:07.36 | giel | like, at least 20 as far as i can see |
| 22:07.54 | giel | nokia r&d rocks, from what i've heard |
| 22:08.09 | kergoth | they're the guys behind scratchbox |
| 22:08.14 | kergoth | i've talked to their manager about oe some in the past |
| 22:09.13 | giel | too bad we're in this smallish town eindhoven and not in amsterdam |
| 22:09.34 | giel | well, i've lived in amsterdam for 6 or 7 years, and something a little smaller is nice too |
| 22:11.37 | kergoth | i'd consider moving out of the country. i've never done much traveling, and i'd rather _live_ someplace than travel as a tourist |
| 22:11.47 | kergoth | from MN, so cold doesnt really bother me |
| 22:11.53 | giel | well, seriously, if you consider the netherlands let me know |
| 22:11.58 | kergoth | k |
| 22:12.03 | giel | we're seriously looking for good research ppl |
| 22:12.18 | kergoth | will see in a month or so, going to take a break before I really pursue positions avidly |
| 22:12.26 | giel | wise decision |
| 22:12.33 | giel | anyway, you can let me know at OLS :) |
| 22:12.45 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:16.54 | giel | hey, i forgot, were you the one with a crossfire? |
| 22:20.10 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:23.52 | giel | got taste, too! |
| 22:23.55 | giel | :) |
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