| 01:32.03 | kergoth | fyi, sqlite3 segfaults with uclibc |
| 01:32.05 | kergoth | works fine with glibc |
| 01:32.10 | kergoth | looks like python is the exact same way |
| 01:32.11 | kergoth | hmm... |
| 01:32.23 | kergoth | commonalities.. both use libreadline for their cmdline interface |
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| 02:49.57 | dyoung-zzzz | rwhitby around? |
| 02:55.41 | kergoth | whee, i've been busy today |
| 02:55.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:55.43 | kergoth | http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/ChangeSet@-1d?nav=index.html |
| 02:55.48 | kergoth | ~praise saturdsays |
| 02:55.50 | jbot | All hail saturdsays! |
| 02:55.51 | kergoth | ~praise saturdays, even |
| 02:55.53 | jbot | All hail saturdays, even! |
| 02:56.22 | dyoung | Yes, you've been quite busy today. |
| 02:57.11 | dyoung | do you have time for a quick question? |
| 02:57.14 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:58.22 | dyoung | Okay so for a 3rd party kernel module, is it better to have for that modules PACKAGES = "kernel-module-foo" defined ? Some modules like bt950 do it, othes like orinoco dont. |
| 02:58.53 | kergoth | i'm inclined to say dont. |
| 02:59.06 | kergoth | we can determine whether they're kernel modules from an appropriately set SECTION, really |
| 02:59.13 | kergoth | no real standard with regard to that atm |
| 02:59.27 | dyoung | Okay, I'll ignore it for now then, Thanks! |
| 02:59.39 | kergoth | np |
| 03:00.08 | kergoth | woah, openssh 4.0 released |
| 03:01.19 | dyoung | rwhitby, if/when youre around, I have a ctrlproxy built. I cant test it right now thoough, all the dependencies dont fit in the internal flash; and I'm not in a position to pivot out to external disk root right now. |
| 03:01.31 | kergoth | nice |
| 03:02.52 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.58 | kergoth | ooh. |
| 03:03.01 | kergoth | neat |
| 03:03.22 | dyoung | Okay heres another dumb question. how ugly would it be to define USE_NLS = yes in ctrlproxy's bb? ctrlproxy requires glib, but glib requires NLS, but openslug.conf (or one of those openslug files) sets USE_NLS ?= no |
| 03:03.35 | kergoth | thatd be wrong |
| 03:03.44 | kergoth | setting that would affect ctrlproxy only |
| 03:03.45 | kergoth | not glibc |
| 03:03.48 | kergoth | not glib, that is |
| 03:03.56 | kergoth | openslug.conf should be doing one of two things: |
| 03:04.00 | kergoth | USE_NLS_uclibc = "no" |
| 03:04.01 | dyoung | Figured so. I temporarily set it in local.conf to bitbake ctrlproxy... |
| 03:04.02 | kergoth | or |
| 03:04.08 | kergoth | USE_NLS = "no" |
| 03:04.11 | kergoth | USE_NLS_glib-2.0 = "yes" |
| 03:04.16 | kergoth | either will do the job well |
| 03:04.56 | kergoth | actually |
| 03:05.05 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:05.34 | kergoth | dyoung: if openslug removes the USE_NLS completely, it'll Just Work(tm) |
| 03:05.47 | kergoth | dyoung: i changed uclibc to default to not using its internal nls stuff |
| 03:06.14 | kergoth | if its really wanted disabled, then it should force yes on glib-2.0\ |
| 03:06.53 | dyoung | Hmm, I dont know the history of why its set to no, so I think adding USE_NLS_glib-2.0 = "yes" in there is probably a safer solution right now. |
| 03:07.05 | kergoth | go for it |
| 03:07.10 | dyoung | Okay cool, thanks. |
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| 03:19.59 | kergoth | wow |
| 03:20.06 | kergoth | openssh 4.0p1 has crosscompilation bits |
| 03:20.11 | kergoth | parts of it suck |
| 03:20.14 | kergoth | but they tried! |
| 03:20.39 | dyoung | Cool. |
| 03:21.00 | kergoth | historically, openssh has been one of the most annoying packages to crosscompile. |
| 03:21.07 | kergoth | they have like 30 AC_TRY_RUN()s |
| 03:21.49 | dyoung | I like the feature about specifying addresses for forwards. Anxious to test that one out. |
| 03:22.00 | kergoth | yeah, thats really cool |
| 03:22.04 | kergoth | i love hte sftp improvements too |
| 03:22.09 | kergoth | i've always hated the sftp interface |
| 03:23.01 | kergoth | [g2]: i have that list of packages for doing native dev in openslug, in the form of a long string of 'ipkg install' commands |
| 03:23.04 | kergoth | [g2]: if you want it |
| 03:23.18 | [g2] | kergoth, I'd love it! |
| 03:23.26 | kergoth | k |
| 03:23.43 | kergoth | [g2]: the openslug USE_NLS bits are busted. was just talking to dyoung about it |
| 03:23.50 | kergoth | [g2]: glib-2.0 requires nls |
| 03:23.53 | [g2] | kergoth, JUST DON'T PASTE IT in HERE !!! :) |
| 03:26.50 | kergoth | [g2]: http://kergoth.com/files/openslug.dev.txt |
| 03:27.13 | kergoth | [g2]: that should be everything necessary to get an autoreconf && ./configure && make; working |
| 03:27.32 | kergoth | please test and confirm. |
| 03:29.08 | [g2] | kergoth, Thx I will |
| 03:29.41 | [g2] | I might take a day or two, I'm bringing up the gateworks platform |
| 03:30.14 | kergoth | k |
| 03:33.15 | dyoung | ~openslug-veggie |
| 03:33.16 | jbot | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp |
| 03:37.11 | [g2] | dyoung, ??? |
| 03:39.26 | dyoung | Hmm? I forgot the page, so was looking it up. |
| 03:39.32 | dyoung | setting up a extdisk rootfs |
| 03:39.58 | kergoth | gah |
| 03:40.06 | kergoth | i accidentally lost the merged openssh 4.0p1 patch |
| 03:40.07 | kergoth | grr |
| 03:40.44 | [g2] | dyoung, nod |
| 03:40.47 | [g2] | kergoth, bummer :( |
| 03:43.56 | dyoung | Drat. |
| 03:44.15 | dyoung | I was hoping I could cheat and use this crappy 16MB SD card for my rootfs. But it dont like it. |
| 03:50.43 | dyoung | I must have *something* I can use for a rootfs.... |
| 03:50.45 | dyoung | geez. |
| 04:16.23 | [g2] | nite all |
| 04:16.28 | [g2] | kergoth, THX for the lists |
| 04:16.36 | kergoth | np |
| 04:36.58 | kergoth | NOTE: package openssh-4.0p1: completed |
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| 09:08.26 | pTweety | hi |
| 09:08.47 | pTweety | can someone help me to increase the samba performance? |
| 09:09.08 | pTweety | currently it seems to be a bit slow ~250KB/s |
| 09:09.28 | pTweety | does samba v3 increase he speed |
| 09:09.30 | pTweety | ? |
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| 11:27.57 | rwhitby | hey hanjo |
| 11:28.04 | rwhitby | got an image working yet? |
| 11:28.10 | hanjo | :) |
| 11:28.14 | hanjo | no not yet |
| 11:28.20 | hanjo | i.e |
| 11:28.34 | hanjo | your image looks ok on the outside, but I can not get in the box :) |
| 11:28.50 | hanjo | and my new build is blocked on the CVS |
| 11:29.01 | rwhitby | hmm - that was the latest build on the official build machine. but no-one has tested that exact image, just images built from the same source. |
| 11:30.15 | hanjo | exact same sources? |
| 11:30.51 | hanjo | I don't know what can be wrong. |
| 11:31.29 | hanjo | The IP and the GW are properly set. Without changing anything and just reflashing linksys I can telnet inside |
| 11:32.01 | hanjo | but with that image, the slug is not recognized on the network |
| 11:32.14 | hanjo | even when I am directly connected with a cross-over cable |
| 11:34.39 | hanjo | but I am glad that I have my build environment sorted out now |
| 11:35.10 | hanjo | that patch issue was really hard to track |
| 11:39.18 | rwhitby | hanjo: I will send you the latest image I built locally. I haven't tested that one either, but it should work :-) |
| 11:42.06 | hanjo | rwhitby: I have to be doing something wrong then... |
| 11:42.37 | rwhitby | maybe not - the previous one might have had the problem where modules were in two dirs |
| 11:43.28 | hanjo | the 11.2 issue? |
| 11:43.29 | rwhitby | just checked - it did have that problem |
| 11:43.32 | rwhitby | yes |
| 11:43.48 | rwhitby | so this new one I am uploading for you should be better |
| 11:44.07 | hanjo | btw, any feedback from SF on the CVS mess? |
| 11:44.29 | rwhitby | didn't know about it |
| 11:44.30 | hanjo | I should not have cleaned all the sources |
| 11:47.50 | rwhitby | I told you not to :-) |
| 11:47.59 | rwhitby | 25789a6812c83b42b4abd64f1355c8ac openslug-nslu2-20050312041257.flashdisk.img |
| 11:48.05 | rwhitby | grab it now |
| 11:50.14 | hanjo | done |
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| 12:43.02 | rwhitby-away | Unslung/WL500g has been born. |
| 12:44.05 | rwhitby-away | I have convinced Oleg (author of the Asus wl500g wireless router custom firmware) to use the Unslung package repository template.mk format and /opt installation location for the packaging system for that firmware. |
| 12:44.34 | rwhitby-away | 5 lines change to top-level Makefile, and 90 packages build with no changes to package.mk files. |
| 12:45.32 | rwhitby-away | "your buildsystem rocks: |
| 12:45.32 | rwhitby-away | builds/gift_0.11.8.1-1_mipsel.ipk builds/tcpdump_3.8.3-1_mipsel.ipk |
| 12:45.32 | rwhitby-away | builds/hdparm_5.9-1_mipsel.ipk builds/zlib_1.2.2-1_mipsel.ipk |
| 12:45.32 | rwhitby-away | builds/strace_4.5.8-1_mipsel.ipk" |
| 13:03.22 | rwhitby-away | night all |
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| 14:52.27 | thaylok | anyone awake? :) |
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| 14:53.06 | thaylok | my original firware slug have gone mad :( |
| 14:53.54 | [g2] | ~nslu2-rules |
| 14:53.55 | jbot | well, nslu2-rules is 1) Those who ask the questions, update the wiki, 2) Those who complain about the doco, update the wiki, 3) Friends don't let friends flash custom firmware without confirmed RedBoot access, 4) Friends don't let friends flash custom bootloaders without confirmed JTAG access. |
| 14:54.58 | [cc]smart | thaylok: flash it |
| 14:55.49 | thaylok | hehe.. my first thought too, but can't get http access no mather what I do :( |
| 14:56.15 | [cc]smart | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TelnetIntoRedBoot |
| 14:57.17 | [cc]smart | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/UpSlug |
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| 15:30.14 | evil-dna | yo |
| 15:30.24 | evil-dna | NSLU2 miught be my next toy! |
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| 15:40.02 | evil-dna | how much flash memory does the NSLU2 have? |
| 15:41.17 | [cc]smart | 16M? |
| 15:41.46 | [cc]smart | but well, what u usually do is add a usb stick or HD :) |
| 15:42.49 | evil-dna | hm right.. it says 8MB on the site |
| 15:42.59 | evil-dna | tho there are only 2 USB connectors :) |
| 15:43.25 | [cc]smart | if you choose openslug, chances are that means you can connect two usb hubs |
| 15:43.37 | evil-dna | hm.. right |
| 15:43.51 | evil-dna | openslug would support a loop filesystem? |
| 15:43.59 | [cc]smart | lemme check... one sec |
| 15:44.17 | evil-dna | ie main fs on the USB2 drive = fat32, then an ext2 fs nested in a file with additional tools etc.. for linux? |
| 15:44.58 | [cc]smart | kernel-module-loop_2.6.11.2-r0_nslu2.ipk |
| 15:45.02 | [cc]smart | so i would think so |
| 15:45.05 | evil-dna | hehe nice |
| 15:45.16 | [cc]smart | but i formatted my USB stick ext3 |
| 15:45.30 | evil-dna | what id love to do if i get this device is to run a bittorrent clent on it.. think its possible? |
| 15:46.15 | evil-dna | that would truly kick ass |
| 15:46.57 | [cc]smart | i'm not the one who could tell you how to do it, but check the mail archives |
| 15:47.14 | [cc]smart | i'm quite sure there were several who have set it up |
| 15:55.49 | evil-dna | s*$! i burnt myself with hot wateer |
| 15:56.17 | evil-dna | thing splashed on my face as i dropped the glass |
| 15:56.28 | evil-dna | it wasnt boiling thankfully |
| 15:57.05 | evil-dna | no cappuccino for me :( |
| 15:57.57 | [cc]smart | hot water can be very dangerous. worst case if you spill it onto clothes that suck it up and hold it right to your skin. |
| 15:58.07 | [cc]smart | that's fun |
| 15:59.26 | evil-dna | :( |
| 15:59.42 | evil-dna | it happened to my sister once wwhile cooking pasta :( |
| 15:59.47 | evil-dna | took her to a doc |
| 16:00.04 | evil-dna | she had a brown stain on her belly for a while |
| 16:01.33 | evil-dna | ya anyway i started to write a pure C BT client last client but project is stalled.. i might resume it some time later |
| 16:01.47 | evil-dna | last summer* |
| 16:02.12 | [g2] | I think some ppl are running ctorrent |
| 16:08.06 | evil-dna | ya i found libbt |
| 16:16.36 | thaylok | ugly little slug! |
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| 16:23.05 | thaylok | anyone ever had a problem with the webinterface on an original linksys firmware? |
| 16:28.52 | caplink811-away | thaylok: See http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ResetSysConf ... after Translation point 1 to 3 |
| 16:29.02 | caplink811-away | ~nslu2-general |
| 16:29.03 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 16:31.32 | thaylok | caplink811-away: thanks.. :) |
| 16:42.54 | CIA-12 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/libxml2/configure.patch: Remove local library search paths |
| 16:44.08 | CIA-12 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/libxslt/libtool.patch: Patch configure instead |
| 16:45.06 | CIA-12 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/libxslt/configure.patch: Remove local library search paths |
| 16:45.44 | CIA-12 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/ (libxslt.mk libxml2.mk): Patches to compile cross |
| 17:02.20 | jp30 | bob_tm, thanks for the work on libxslt |
| 17:02.20 | thaylok | caplink811-away: that fixed it :) big thanks! |
| 17:02.38 | bob_tm | jp30: No problem |
| 17:03.58 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/freetype.mk: freetype: follow the -config script in STAGING/bin convention |
| 17:10.44 | CIA-12 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/gift.mk: Remove deletion of staging/opt/share and man |
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| 17:29.27 | bob_tm | jp30: Added http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/FirmwareWishList and made link from main Unslung page |
| 17:30.33 | jp30 | thanks, bob_tm, i'll take a look |
| 17:30.38 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (6 files in 3 dirs): deprecate libiconv |
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| 18:08.31 | morale | this is getting annoying having to reboot every 2 minutes |
| 18:11.20 | morale | could it be a problem in the 2.4.29 kernel which is causing this lockup/forced reboot on v2.2 wrt54g's ? |
| 18:26.30 | evil-dna | this is #nslu2-linux :) |
| 18:27.03 | evil-dna | morale: so you managed to install experimental after all? nice :D |
| 18:27.28 | evil-dna | i only have batbox now |
| 18:27.36 | morale | batbox? |
| 18:27.41 | evil-dna | ya |
| 18:27.53 | evil-dna | it's a ram-only install for wrt54g |
| 18:27.58 | evil-dna | very basic tho |
| 18:28.04 | morale | im going to exchange my wrt54g for a wrt54gs |
| 18:28.11 | morale | the wrt54gs doesn't crash does it? |
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| 18:28.27 | evil-dna | you really need a gs? |
| 18:28.35 | evil-dna | speebooster only works with linksys products |
| 18:29.02 | morale | i just need something that doesn't freeze up |
| 18:31.44 | evil-dna | then just wait until experimental gets included in the official openwrt |
| 18:31.50 | evil-dna | it will be very soon im sure |
| 18:32.17 | evil-dna | or read the forums to see how other people did.. it seems to work well if you do it right |
| 18:32.20 | morale | im going to get a wrt54gs just so i have the extra 16mb of memory too |
| 18:32.34 | evil-dna | im not sure its really required |
| 18:32.53 | morale | hmm.. |
| 18:32.57 | evil-dna | i would just keep my wrt54g.. why spend more bucks ;) |
| 18:33.07 | evil-dna | try to install again.. |
| 18:33.24 | evil-dna | 16MB seems to be enough i think :/ |
| 18:33.34 | evil-dna | besides, perhaps your unit has 32M |
| 18:33.38 | evil-dna | did you check? |
| 18:33.40 | morale | its only 10$ more |
| 18:33.50 | morale | yeah its only 16mb |
| 18:33.50 | evil-dna | some late v2.2 have 32M with 16M disabled |
| 18:33.58 | evil-dna | hm |
| 18:34.07 | evil-dna | you can change it? |
| 18:34.08 | evil-dna | blah |
| 18:34.24 | morale | nah, if i try i can turn this thing into a brick |
| 18:34.29 | evil-dna | lol |
| 18:34.43 | evil-dna | before you return your unit, make sure to put it back how it was ;) |
| 18:34.48 | evil-dna | hehe |
| 18:35.13 | evil-dna | morale: you enabled boot_wait? |
| 18:35.35 | evil-dna | just be patient and wait for official support |
| 18:35.45 | evil-dna | what if you get a v1.1 gs? |
| 18:35.54 | evil-dna | then you'd need experimental as well ;) |
| 18:36.43 | evil-dna | hello.c:1:19: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:36.59 | evil-dna | i'm trying to cross compile a hello_world for the wrt54g |
| 18:37.03 | evil-dna | but... :( |
| 18:37.26 | evil-dna | i got a mipsel-ecoff gcc installed tho |
| 18:54.40 | evil-dna | morale: still there, |
| 18:54.40 | evil-dna | ? |
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| 20:05.42 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/sources/gconv-modules/control: bump gconv-modules ipk version |
| 20:10.12 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: deprecate libiconv |
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| 20:37.53 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: make BASE_DIR a simply-expanded variable |
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| 20:50.47 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/ (svn.mk libogg.mk libvorbis.mk): libogg, libvorbis, and svn were all deleting other packages' files from the staging directory. now they don't |
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| 21:32.26 | jp30 | rwhitby-away, ping? |
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| 21:58.24 | dyoung | looks like ctrlproxy kinda works, but I dont have enough flash space to really test it... |
| 22:06.46 | rwhitby-away | jp30: pong |
| 22:12.38 | jp30 | rwhitby, bob_tm and I were discussing some changes to template.mk, and I thought would get your comments (and those of anyone else here with views)... |
| 22:13.33 | jp30 | ...we thought it might be good to edit template.mk to encourage pkg devs to autogenerate a control file, rather than storing one in sources. sound good? |
| 22:14.44 | rwhitby-away | agreed |
| 22:15.01 | rwhitby-away | did you see TARGET_ARCH? |
| 22:15.31 | dyoung | I think we tossed it around a bit before and everyone said it was a good idea, and your packages already do it. |
| 22:16.18 | rwhitby-away | jp30: did you know that we are reusing the packages as-is for the Asus wl500g router custom firmware? (mipsel) |
| 22:16.43 | jp30 | yes, i saw you mention it in the logs and guess that your recent change to template.mk was related to that |
| 22:16.44 | rwhitby-away | 5 line change to top-level Makefile, and 90 packages build |
| 22:16.51 | jp30 | nice. |
| 22:17.01 | rwhitby-away | wl500g.dyndns.org |
| 22:17.39 | jp30 | i also recently changed BASE_DIR to a simple var (ie. := rather than = ) that speeds up make by about 10x |
| 22:17.59 | jp30 | ...very noticable on native |
| 22:18.47 | rwhitby-away | I'm sure there are lots of optimisations waiting in there ... |
| 22:19.42 | jp30 | another thing i was thinking about is whether the root Makefile should set and export TMPDIR |
| 22:20.24 | jp30 | ...there are some native packages that really thrash swap by filling up /tmp with temporaries |
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| 22:22.51 | rwhitby-away | yeah, good idea |
| 22:23.07 | rwhitby-away | a local tmp dir |
| 22:24.32 | rwhitby-away | Oleg (author of wl500g firmware) may well contribute back patches for packages to generate control file (cause he needs to do that to use TARGET_ARCH. |
| 22:24.40 | jp30 | so, if I set TMPDIR=$(BASE_DIR)/tmp, add it to the directories target, set it to be exported, and make a rule to create it if it doesn't exist... |
| 22:25.05 | jp30 | that would be handy. |
| 22:25.25 | jp30 | even my control-less packages have hardwritten arches in them |
| 22:26.26 | rwhitby-away | He has created a basic feed of mipsel ipks since last night: http://wl500g.dyndns.org/unslung/ |
| 22:26.45 | rwhitby-away | We're calling it Unslung/WL :-) |
| 22:28.01 | jp30 | cool |
| 22:28.14 | jp30 | i wonder what else we try porting unslung to |
| 22:28.28 | rwhitby-away | Note this is only a port of the packages, not the firmware |
| 22:28.34 | jp30 | ah, of course. |
| 22:28.47 | rwhitby-away | He just sent me a patch for TARGET_ARCH for all the packages (but not generating control files yet) |
| 22:29.47 | jp30 | hard working chap, this oleg |
| 22:29.58 | rwhitby-away | and also an ipkg.mk (cause we're only putting the ipkg script in the base wl500g firmware) |
| 22:31.40 | rwhitby-away | so I will check those in now. he is being careful not to break anything for Unslung/NSLU2. |
| 22:32.53 | jp30 | good. this will have been a busy weekend for unslung packages |
| 22:34.18 | rwhitby-away | note that the wl500g is uclibc, so he will probably be contributing patches to make things work with uclibc. We probably need a TARGET_OS variable so that he can use that to conditionalise patches ... |
| 22:37.01 | jp30 | does uclibc have a usable iconv()? if not my recent assault on libiconv may cause trouble |
| 22:37.46 | jp30 | ...i'd just got all the unslung packages working with glibc's iconv |
| 22:37.55 | rwhitby-away | dunno - we'll find out. Note that the needs of Unslung/NSLU2 come first, so if there is any special stuff that needs to be done, then he will do it. |
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| 22:43.58 | Wipmac | hi all. hows the status on the intel-problems with openslug beta release? |
| 22:45.24 | rwhitby-away | kergoth: can OE build stuff for uclibc 0.9.19 ? |
| 22:45.53 | kergoth | if you add uclibc 0.9.19, certainly. should take, what, 5 minutes? |
| 22:45.57 | rwhitby-away | (I'd love to use OE for this stuff too, but wl500g firmware is like Unslung firmware in that it stays compatible with stock firmware). |
| 22:46.18 | jp30 | kergoth, perhaps I will install unslung packages on my zaurus now :) |
| 22:46.28 | rwhitby-away | heh :-) |
| 22:46.54 | kergoth | its your call, i just dont see the point |
| 22:47.28 | jp30 | TMPDIR changes to root makefile coming up... |
| 22:47.53 | rwhitby-away | kergoth: I'll get Oleg to look at adding uclibc to OE - but he is right at the bottom of the OE learning curve (starting from zero). |
| 22:48.06 | rwhitby-away | uclibc 0.9.19, that is |
| 22:48.15 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: set TMPDIR in root Makefile |
| 22:49.51 | hanjo | hi all. sorry to interrupt you with another of my novice questions: what is the minimum bb set that needs to be rebuilt to get a new kernel-module-blabla.ipk after enabling it in defconfig ? |
| 22:50.20 | rwhitby-away | just rebuild the kernel |
| 22:51.10 | hanjo | rwhitby: I can reproduce the EHCI issue with my char devices on the hub. They work fine |
| 22:51.58 | rwhitby-away | you can or can't? |
| 22:52.10 | hanjo | can't |
| 22:53.09 | rwhitby-away | Dang. There is a source/ipkg file in the CVS repository (must be in the Attic), which is preventing me adding a source/ipkg directory. Is there anything I can do other than submitting a sf.net support request and waiting two weeks? |
| 22:58.08 | jp30 | it's not possible for a project admin to ssh into sf.net and get access to the repo? |
| 22:58.17 | kergoth | no. |
| 22:58.21 | jp30 | hmm |
| 22:58.22 | kergoth | you cant get local access to cvs at sf |
| 22:58.34 | kergoth | afaik anyway |
| 22:58.51 | jp30 | that's a pain |
| 22:59.03 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:00.51 | rwhitby-away | jp30: TARGET_ARCH mega-update coming now |
| 23:01.28 | rwhitby-away | Puts @ARCH@ in some control files, and uses sed to change them to ${TARGET_ARCH} - a half-step towards auto-generated control files |
| 23:01.34 | rwhitby-away | also does @VERSION@ |
| 23:02.07 | CIA-12 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/ (245 files in 4 dirs): Patched to use TARGET_ARCH - @FOO@ variables put in some control files, and modified on the fly using sed |
| 23:02.12 | CIA-12 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ (gift/control libid3tag/control): Patched to use TARGET_ARCH - @FOO@ variables put in some control files, and modified on the fly using sed |
| 23:02.24 | CIA-12 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Patched to use TARGET_ARCH - @FOO@ variables put in some control files, and modified on the fly using sed |
| 23:02.32 | CIA-12 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ (openssl/control popt/control samba/control strace/control): Patched to use TARGET_ARCH - @FOO@ variables put in some control files, and modified on the fly using sed |
| 23:02.35 | CIA-12 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/ (tcpdump/control vsftpd/control xinetd/control zlib/control): Patched to use TARGET_ARCH - @FOO@ variables put in some control files, and modified on the fly using sed |
| 23:03.20 | rwhitby-away | jp30: blame me for an errors in that. I took a quick look at the changes, and Oleg is historically very good, so I haven't recompiled from them or tested. |
| 23:04.10 | jp30 | OK, I'll start a big rebuild on the official build machines and see what shakes loose |
| 23:04.26 | rwhitby-away | the changes were trivial, just lots of them |
| 23:04.28 | hanjo | can someone point me to some docs about the build system. I.e. how to invalidate the cache etc. I can't force the kernel to recompile. bb -f openslug-kernel ands with completed without rebuilding |
| 23:05.27 | hanjo | i've checked the OE wiki and the user manual but I am still in the dark |
| 23:05.47 | hanjo | oh, hell I just broke the docs rule :) |
| 23:06.54 | rwhitby-away | kergoth: looks like you've got yourself a volunteer :-) |
| 23:07.49 | hanjo | :) |
| 23:09.21 | hanjo | I just found the work in progress at http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/UsersManual |
| 23:09.44 | rwhitby-away | jp30: I;m going to add a TARGET_OS variable (defaults to "linux", but can also take "linux-uclibc") in the top-level Makefile, so that Oleg can use that to switch patches for uclibc. |
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| 23:10.18 | jp30 | OK |
| 23:11.16 | CIA-12 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added TARGET_OS variable, so that Unslung/WL500g can use it to conditionally apply uclibc patches. |
| 23:11.28 | rwhitby-away | ok, that's all my changes done. |
| 23:11.34 | rwhitby-away | catch you later. |
| 23:12.22 | sam_ | So I have a hopefully non-stupid question that wasn't on the faq or the wiki |
| 23:12.48 | jp30 | sam_, is it about development, or about how to use unslung? |
| 23:13.13 | sam_ | its about how to use it |
| 23:13.21 | jp30 | ~nslu2-general |
| 23:13.22 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 23:13.24 | sam_ | whoops |
| 23:13.31 | sam_ | yea.. my bad. |
| 23:13.32 | jp30 | s'ok |
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| 23:13.41 | sam_ | I might be back here some other time ;-) |
| 23:14.42 | *** topic/#nslu2-linux by rwhitby-away -> Developer (not end-user) discussion about modifying the Linux operating system on the Linksys NSLU2. Use #nslu2-general for end-user questions. See www.nslu2-linux.org for info, and be sure to read www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/FAQ before asking questions. |
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| 23:15.29 | rwhitby-away | there |
| 23:16.45 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/template.mk: template.mk now encourages developers to generate control |
| 23:18.16 | sam_ | perhaps I can phrase my answer in the form a of a development question and thereby skirt the fact that there is no one in nslu-general |
| 23:19.27 | rwhitby-away | that could work :-) |
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| 23:20.44 | Gorx | any1 know how to get printer.o to start at boot? |
| 23:22.04 | CIA-12 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/sources/xmail/control: fix broken xmail version number in control |
| 23:26.36 | jp30 | sam_, you could also post to the yahoo list |
| 23:27.48 | sam_ | true that |
| 23:28.27 | sam_ | sorry just got distracted answering Gorx's question. |
| 23:28.36 | sam_ | irony |
| 23:31.06 | sam_ | aha! i just realized i can debug the boot process by setting beeps in the rc.1 script. |
| 23:36.00 | sam_ | So the majority of development on the web site seems to be focused around expanding the feature set onto the disk |
| 23:37.14 | sam_ | Is there anyone doing any development around keeping the configuration info on the unit and thereby not having to do anything to the disks other than store data? |
| 23:39.01 | jp30 | sam_, how about making /opt/etc a symlink to /opt-etc, would that do what you want? |
| 23:39.42 | sam_ | well, i was thinking of a little more restructuring than that. |
| 23:40.35 | sam_ | more of replacing USB_Detect, modifying some of the cgi, storing users groups and smb.conf on flash. |
| 23:41.22 | sam_ | so that USB_Detect2 just mounted /dev/sd[ab]* to say /share/disk* |
| 23:41.30 | jp30 | if you really want to modify the firmware in ways that would replace linksys functionality, you probably want openslug |
| 23:41.38 | sam_ | hmmm |
| 23:42.38 | sam_ | maybe. |
| 23:43.16 | sam_ | is there a known issue with a race condition on bootup that might result in a nslu2 not booting fully when there is a disk attached at disk1? |
| 23:44.07 | jp30 | what do you mean by not booting fully? |
| 23:44.34 | sam_ | i mean reaching a flashing Ready/Status state, but not being accessable via the network |
| 23:44.44 | sam_ | the disk1 light comes on |
| 23:45.19 | jp30 | your slug is locking up with ready/status flashing? |
| 23:45.42 | sam_ | yes, but only if there is a disk attached to disk1 |
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| 23:46.11 | sam_ | and apparently only if I don't put two Set_Led beep1 commands into rc.1 |
| 23:46.31 | sam_ | which was why I was thinking race |
| 23:48.41 | jp30 | you've got to be careful with Set_Led. some things it can do it doesn't return from. beep1 should be OK, though |
| 23:49.09 | sam_ | hmmm came up that time. |
| 23:49.18 | sam_ | i hate intermittent failures |
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