| 00:12.31 | CIA-10 | 03purbanec * 10unslung/ (make/puppy.mk sources/puppy/control): Upgrade to version 1.8 - Now supports locking exclusion for multiple instances to avoid what appears to be a kernel bug. |
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| 00:13.17 | peteru-home | morning |
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| 01:48.30 | _chris_ | evenin all |
| 01:52.00 | peteru-home | morning |
| 01:55.37 | [g2] | morning |
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| 02:40.46 | *** topic/#nslu2-linux is Discussion about modifying the Linux operating system on the Linksys NSLU2. See www.nslu2-linux.org for info, and be sure to read www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/FAQ before asking questions here. |
| 02:44.07 | peteru-home | are there any short term plans for supporting an "end user friendly" method of flashing firmware form openslug? i.e. not requiring redboot access? |
| 02:45.24 | peteru-home | I consider ssh session to an openslug /bin/sh prompt friendly enough for this task. |
| 02:45.51 | peteru-home | and when I say short term, I'm talking weeks :) |
| 02:46.53 | [g2] | peteru-home, possibly |
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| 02:48.38 | [g2] | peteru-home, running from disk / flash stick make for an easier upgrade |
| 02:48.50 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, Hey Sunshine ! |
| 02:48.54 | rwhitby-web | hey |
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| 03:15.30 | peteru-home | [g2]: I suppose if the jffs2 root is remounted ro and slug halted as soon as flash is done, things should be safe enough even when running from internal flash only. |
| 03:15.56 | peteru-home | or am I missing something crucial? |
| 03:16.10 | [g2] | yes |
| 03:16.21 | [g2] | peteru-home, you need to get off the jffs2 partition |
| 03:16.43 | [g2] | One way would be to create a ramdisk can pivot on to it |
| 03:17.01 | [g2] | ramdisk and pivot |
| 03:17.36 | [g2] | proabably easier to just reboot to the switchbox ramdisk |
| 03:17.42 | peteru-home | sounds like a flash boot mode - that also works. just do a special boot that only expects to receive the image |
| 03:17.53 | peteru-home | flash and do a normal reboot |
| 03:18.13 | [g2] | or If one is running from the hd / usb stick then the jffs2 partition can be reflashed cause its not in use |
| 03:18.30 | rwhitby-web | peteru-home: touch /.recovery, reboot, put an image on a flashdisk, plug in the flashdisk and mount it, dd the image into the jffs2. |
| 03:18.41 | rwhitby-web | or do what [g2] just said |
| 03:19.33 | rwhitby-web | the recovery shell specifically has enough smarts to be able to mount and rewrite images from a usb stick to the internal jffs2 |
| 03:19.34 | [g2] | or if running from hd / usb flash, mount jffs2, touch .recovery on the jffs2 partition root; unmount and reboot |
| 03:19.46 | rwhitby-web | right |
| 03:20.00 | peteru-home | I'm trying to figure out viable solution for mum and dad situation field upgrade of a pupose specific slug. one that has only internal flash and a user that can at best point and click |
| 03:20.32 | rwhitby-web | sercomm upgrade utility from windows |
| 03:20.54 | rwhitby-web | and the "hold in the reset button until you get to upgrade mode" procedure |
| 03:21.25 | peteru-home | have we nailed that one down yet? last time I heard the timing was very finicky. |
| 03:22.50 | peteru-home | a win32 version of upslug is certainly an attractive option, especially if it is as simple as insert toothpick in reset slot and hold for 10 seconds. |
| 03:23.10 | rwhitby-web | we have a win32 version of upslug - the sercomm upgrade utility |
| 03:23.37 | peteru-home | the sercomm utility could never find my slug |
| 03:23.51 | peteru-home | or if it did, it proclaimed it as incompatible |
| 03:24.11 | rwhitby-web | was that before 3.18? |
| 03:24.31 | rwhitby-web | we fixed that problem |
| 03:24.43 | rwhitby-web | with the overlaid partitions |
| 03:24.46 | peteru-home | yes, before 3.18 |
| 03:24.51 | peteru-home | excellent. |
| 03:25.08 | peteru-home | I've built an openslug image this morning. |
| 03:25.48 | peteru-home | I'm going to backup my unslung jffs2 customisations and give openslug a go :) |
| 03:25.49 | rwhitby-web | any images built since 3.18 should have the partitions set correctly for the secomm utility to recognise it |
| 03:26.29 | rwhitby-web | it's a slugimage change, which is independent of unslung or openslug (as long as we keep openslug with the same partition layout - which is why I have been driving that so hard) |
| 03:27.13 | peteru-home | I suppose I'll need to start making .tar.gz puppy releases so that it can be bitbaked. |
| 03:27.52 | peteru-home | 1.8 is out and fixes some data corruption issues caused by the auto-device scanning. |
| 03:28.00 | peteru-home | looks like a kernel bug. |
| 03:28.21 | peteru-home | or more preciselly, usbfs bug |
| 03:29.03 | rwhitby-web | peteru-home: or change the .bb file to get it from CVS using a tag .... |
| 03:30.52 | kergoth | join #oe this time. |
| 03:31.21 | kergoth | ljp claims i'm a shell script |
| 03:32.00 | [g2] | I think when the power goes out that's code for I'm running on disel power add fuel |
| 03:32.19 | [g2] | :) |
| 03:32.49 | [g2] | kergoth, what's up with 2.6.11 ? |
| 03:33.16 | kergoth | what about it? |
| 03:33.36 | [g2] | It sounded like the ARM guys were just waiting for Linus |
| 03:34.00 | kergoth | yeah, non-bugfix changes are held up pending the release |
| 03:34.11 | ByronT | how's the lip doing, kergoth? |
| 03:34.20 | kergoth | swollen, which is annoying as hell |
| 03:34.23 | kergoth | but otherwise fine |
| 03:34.34 | [g2] | swollen ? when ? why ? |
| 03:34.41 | [g2] | did you bump it ? |
| 03:34.45 | ByronT | ya haven't gotten it caught on the pillow covers? |
| 03:34.50 | kergoth | no, i had a hole poked in it. piercing. |
| 03:34.56 | kergoth | ByronT: dont think so |
| 03:35.10 | ByronT | That's a Good Thing (tm). |
| 03:35.44 | [g2] | Have you been taking good care of it ? |
| 03:35.59 | kergoth | havent been using mouthwash as often as i should |
| 03:36.09 | kergoth | its a real hassle doing so at work after every damn soda or whatever |
| 03:36.22 | ByronT | listerine hurts on a non-pierced mouth |
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| 03:36.56 | [g2] | <Dad Rant> |
| 03:37.02 | [g2] | KEEP IT CLEAN! |
| 03:37.10 | [g2] | </Dad Rant> |
| 03:37.19 | CompBrain | :-o |
| 03:38.56 | kergoth | heh, no worries, keeping it clean |
| 03:39.14 | peteru-home | there's a first time for everything ;) |
| 03:40.14 | [g2] | kergoth, what's your take on the Intel GPL click-through for the CSR wrappers |
| 03:41.05 | kergoth | heh, companies that make you click to agree to the gpl are ignorant of the gpl. |
| 03:41.37 | [g2] | LOL |
| 03:46.41 | [g2] | nite all |
| 03:46.47 | kergoth | night |
| 03:46.55 | peteru-home | have a good one |
| 03:50.46 | peteru-home | excellent: puppy_1.8-r0_armeb.ipk built from CVS :) |
| 04:09.08 | rwhitby-web | peteru-home: Unslung package or OpenSlug package? |
| 04:18.33 | peteru-home | rwhitby-away: openslug |
| 04:26.03 | CIA-10 | 03peteru 07 * r1.2921.1.1 10openembedded/packages/puppy/puppy_1.8.bb: |
| 04:26.03 | CIA-10 | New release of puppy - supports locking exclusion for multiple instances to avoid what appears to be a kernel bug. |
| 04:26.03 | CIA-10 | Built from CVS using a release tag. |
| 04:42.56 | CIA-10 | 03kin-kwok * 10unslung/ (make/samba.mk sources/samba/control): update to samba version 3.0.11 |
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| 07:20.16 | kergoth | rwhitby-away: pulled from nslu2 into upstream oe. dont see a ny issues with any of it. |
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| 07:52.23 | perlguru-work | morning! |
| 08:03.26 | siddy-away | morning! |
| 08:03.40 | kergoth | morning |
| 08:03.44 | siddy-away | BREAKING NEWS: 2.6.11 is out! |
| 08:04.58 | siddy-away | now we just need some volunteer to port it for openslug... :) |
| 08:05.57 | dyoung | really? |
| 08:05.57 | dyoung | shit |
| 08:06.38 | kergoth | ah, nice, it is tagged indeed |
| 08:06.41 | kergoth | thats great news |
| 08:07.10 | dyoung | siddy-away, a port is immiment. ;-) |
| 08:15.28 | perlguru-work | cool |
| 08:16.23 | perlguru-work | nothing on kernel.org yet |
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| 09:36.20 | peteru-home | well, there you go, nothing like a new kernel to provide an excellent reason for delaying openslug beta release. |
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| 09:37.03 | ka6sox-away | peteru-home, it may just solve some of the outstanding problems. |
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| 09:38.09 | rwhitby | 1.5-beta binary has already been built |
| 09:38.32 | rwhitby | (couple of days ago) |
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| 09:40.40 | ka6sox-away | I need to put that in my new slug. |
| 09:41.19 | peteru-home | considering that we'll probably want to move openslug to .11 at the earliest, it may make sense to start the public beta with a .11 based build. maybe? |
| 09:42.06 | peteru-home | bbi1h - playing taxi driver... |
| 09:42.13 | ka6sox-away | there is a significant EHCI patch in .11 |
| 09:42.23 | ka6sox-away | well...its in .10 too |
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| 10:42.11 | dyoung | peteru-home, I spent te evening looking at that. |
| 10:42.28 | dyoung | I have a 2.6.10 bb that works. |
| 10:42.58 | dyoung | Unfortnately there was a fundemental change in the way the arm timers are setup and we're looking at some work to bring the nslu2 specific stuff to that standard.... |
| 10:45.38 | dyoung | anyways, whenever they decide to post up the source tar/bz ball I'll start looking at it. |
| 10:46.02 | jacques | for 2.6.11 ? yeah I noticed only the tgz was tehre |
| 10:47.06 | dyoung | really? I didnt even see that... |
| 10:47.14 | jacques | yep |
| 10:47.24 | jacques | it's been there for almost 3 hours (at least) |
| 10:47.46 | jacques | ah ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.11.tar.bz2 |
| 10:47.56 | jacques | now they have the .bz2 |
| 10:48.33 | dyoung | Ahh...... wgetting now. |
| 10:48.37 | jacques | me too :-) |
| 10:48.55 | dyoung | Are you motivated to get the bb working? |
| 10:49.25 | jacques | huh? |
| 10:49.34 | dyoung | the 2.6.11 bb. |
| 10:49.43 | dyoung | (the one that doesnt exist yet) |
| 10:49.58 | jacques | I have the feeling this one is going to be painful |
| 10:50.05 | dyoung | It will be. |
| 10:50.13 | jacques | and beyond my skills |
| 10:50.16 | dyoung | If youre motivated, I have a bb for 2.6.10 that more or less works. |
| 10:50.37 | dyoung | the painful part is the nslu2 specific stuff which will need to be ported/converted to the new standard. |
| 10:51.04 | dyoung | I can mail you the 2.6.10 patchfile if you are interested to use that as a baseline. (if youre motivated...) |
| 10:51.07 | jacques | there were tons of fundamental changes since 2.6.10 for arm |
| 10:51.24 | jacques | I'm not motivated - it would be like banging my head against a wall |
| 10:51.26 | ka6sox-away | not to mention USB changes. |
| 10:51.38 | dyoung | I'm kinda motivated. |
| 10:51.45 | jacques | the kernel gurus will need to be involved in this one IMHO |
| 10:52.23 | dyoung | the fundemental timer changes were making my head spin a few hours ago. |
| 10:52.34 | dyoung | Its more under control now... |
| 10:52.41 | dyoung | (but doesnt make it suck any less) |
| 10:54.25 | jacques | I think 2.6.11 will be a great arm kernel, but far from trivial to get running on the nslu2 |
| 10:55.15 | jacques | I wonder if the new DMA mmap feature will be of any use to us |
| 10:55.37 | jacques | heck they added arm TLB and smp support |
| 10:56.06 | jacques | rearranged most of the arm assemby files |
| 10:57.21 | ka6sox-away | like I'm going to have an ARM SMP box? |
| 10:57.57 | jacques | very soon |
| 10:58.11 | jacques | they did it because multicore arm are going to be available soon |
| 10:58.46 | ka6sox-away | I am thinking of waiting until the dual-core A64 comes out. |
| 10:59.48 | dyoung | Okay so far its just the same 2 files that need restructuring. |
| 11:01.45 | jacques | ka6sox-away, I thought that was at least 6 months - did you hear something ? |
| 11:02.05 | ka6sox-away | 3Q2005 |
| 11:02.09 | ka6sox-away | so yeah. |
| 11:12.04 | jacques | those should be so sweet |
| 11:13.50 | rwhitby | peteru-home: the discussion over the last 30 minutes is why the 1.5-beta binary doesn't get rebuit on 2.6.11 ... :-) |
| 11:14.07 | rwhitby | rebuilt ... |
| 11:15.46 | ka6sox-away | nite all |
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| 11:20.12 | perlguru-work | ~botsnack |
| 11:20.12 | jbot | perlguru-work: aw, gee |
| 11:21.35 | perlguru-work | something intresting happened last 12 hours? |
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| 11:34.05 | lennert | hello |
| 11:34.23 | lennert | does openssl work properly for you guys? |
| 11:34.34 | perlguru-work | yes |
| 11:34.36 | lennert | i think there's still some big-endian/little-endian bugs in there |
| 11:34.40 | lennert | which version are you using? |
| 11:35.25 | lennert | 0.9.7a vanilla seems borked |
| 11:35.52 | lennert | i can ssh between armv4b/armv5teb boxes, but not from armv4b to x86 or vice versa |
| 11:35.55 | perlguru-work | the one in the unslung feed |
| 11:35.56 | lennert | for example |
| 11:36.17 | lennert | right |
| 11:36.23 | perlguru-work | no problems with openssh |
| 11:38.16 | perlguru-work | Package: openssl Version: 0.9.7d-2 |
| 11:39.35 | lennert | aha |
| 11:39.37 | lennert | i'll check that out, thanks |
| 11:39.54 | perlguru-work | np |
| 11:44.44 | lennert | one more question if you don't mind: does unslung ship gmp/libgmp ? |
| 11:44.58 | rwhitby | hey lennert |
| 11:45.26 | lennert | hey rwhitby |
| 11:45.38 | lennert | i figured only the dutch ppl would be awake round this time |
| 11:45.50 | rwhitby | no, we don't have a gmp package in unslung |
| 11:46.04 | rwhitby | it's only 10:15pm here |
| 11:46.49 | lennert | ok, gmp is borked too, i wondered how you'd have solved it |
| 11:47.09 | lennert | i fixed the 'floating point numbers are always little-endian' assumption but the testsuite still bombs out |
| 11:50.58 | perlguru-work | maybe there is a gmp in OE |
| 11:52.56 | lennert | thanks |
| 11:56.35 | rwhitby | gmp-4.1.2 in oe |
| 11:57.02 | lennert | 4.1.4 doesn't pass its testsuite |
| 11:57.06 | lennert | i'll check it out |
| 11:57.13 | lennert | maybe it doesn't pass the testsuite either :) |
| 11:57.16 | lennert | thanks |
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| 11:58.47 | dyoung-zzzz | attempting first bitbake of openslug-kernel-2.6.11 |
| 11:58.56 | jacques | brave man |
| 11:59.00 | rwhitby | that was quick |
| 11:59.17 | rwhitby | I'm setting up openslug-packages.bb |
| 11:59.23 | dyoung-zzzz | I was gonna go to sleep, but i couldnt pass it up. ;-) |
| 11:59.52 | jacques | rwhitby, what's openslug-packages.bb ? |
| 12:00.02 | rwhitby | a place to capture the list of packages that work, so that we can upload automatically to a feed |
| 12:01.05 | lennert | yeah, they seem to have released 2.6.11 while i wasn't watching :) |
| 12:01.33 | dyoung-zzzz | lennert, dont fret too much, it was around 4 hours ago. |
| 12:01.52 | lennert | i was asleep 4 hours ago |
| 12:01.57 | jacques | lennert, any thoughts on 2.6.11 for arm? like "it should be good" or "avoid it" ? |
| 12:02.10 | lennert | jacques: it has a number of important bugfixes for big-endian |
| 12:02.22 | jacques | that sounds good |
| 12:02.51 | dyoung-zzzz | and critically for us, it has a pile of ehci fixes over 2.6.9 . |
| 12:05.40 | lennert | jacques: the eepro100 driver doesn't work though, since they ported it over to a new API but didn't implement the API for arm |
| 12:05.48 | lennert | jacques: apart from that, it's all good and nice |
| 12:06.51 | rwhitby | luckily we don't have one of those onboard :-) |
| 12:07.36 | lennert | i'd choose it over the ixp4xx's npes any day though :) |
| 12:09.40 | jacques | heh |
| 12:09.54 | jacques | me too |
| 12:10.54 | lennert | on the crossgcc list, glenn west (accidentally?) said (re the ixp4xx npe stuff) "working on scheduling another intel beating session soon with the local intel managers" |
| 12:11.13 | lennert | robert ranslam (the intel guy responsible) replies "That would be me" |
| 12:11.27 | dyoung-zzzz | Heh. |
| 12:11.45 | jacques | lol |
| 12:11.50 | dyoung-zzzz | I like gelloglue tho, hes seems like a nice guy. |
| 12:14.08 | lennert | it's probably just the intel party line and not necessarily his decision |
| 12:16.02 | dyoung-zzzz | Hmm, it complains less with 2.6.11 than 2.6.10.... |
| 12:27.51 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay. now I'm back to where I was i 2.6.10. |
| 12:28.12 | dyoung-zzzz | grumbling about gettimeoffset. |
| 12:28.23 | lennert | what grumbling? |
| 12:28.26 | dyoung-zzzz | and thats the stuff that needs restructuring. |
| 12:29.31 | lennert | the needed mods for ixp2000 were fairly minor |
| 12:29.34 | dyoung-zzzz | >=2.6.10 apparently doesnt use that variable/structure the same way as earlier.... |
| 12:29.54 | dyoung-zzzz | Its not *that* bad, I dnt think.... |
| 12:29.58 | dyoung-zzzz | but I'm not a guru. |
| 12:30.05 | dyoung-zzzz | and I should be sleeping. ;-) |
| 12:30.17 | lennert | is it in nslu2-specific code or generic ixp4xx code? |
| 12:30.29 | dyoung-zzzz | nslu2-specific. |
| 12:30.50 | dyoung-zzzz | so I would need to convert it to that standard. |
| 12:31.10 | dyoung-zzzz | .timer etc |
| 12:31.38 | jacques | anyone seen kas11? :-) |
| 12:31.40 | lennert | well |
| 12:31.51 | lennert | instead of INITTIME(ixp4xx_init_time) you say .timer = &ixp4xx_timer, |
| 12:32.02 | lennert | one-line diff |
| 12:32.08 | lennert | or are you using your own sys_timer ? |
| 12:32.18 | dyoung-zzzz | own timer... |
| 12:32.38 | lennert | any reason you can't just use ixp4xx_timer? |
| 12:32.45 | dyoung-zzzz | not sure yet. |
| 12:32.49 | lennert | most in-tree platforms seem to use it |
| 12:32.53 | dyoung-zzzz | I havnt fully expored yet. |
| 12:32.57 | dyoung-zzzz | explored. |
| 12:33.53 | lennert | all in-tree ixp4xx platforms use it |
| 12:34.02 | lennert | in 2.6.11 |
| 12:34.12 | dyoung-zzzz | hmm... maybe tommorowm whenI'm kind of awake I'll comment that bit out to use the standard one. |
| 12:34.16 | lennert | ok |
| 12:34.19 | lennert | should work |
| 12:34.19 | dyoung-zzzz | now I'm totaly brain dead. |
| 12:34.22 | lennert | hehe |
| 12:34.28 | lennert | sleep well then |
| 12:34.39 | dyoung-zzzz | ( its 0234 HST ) |
| 12:34.44 | dyoung-zzzz | Thanks Lennert! |
| 12:34.48 | lennert | :) ciao! |
| 12:34.53 | jacques | yeah, good progress so far dyoung-zzzz |
| 12:35.09 | dyoung-zzzz | anyone feeling adventurous? I have a workable patchfile.... |
| 12:35.17 | lennert | i'll have a look? |
| 12:35.20 | lennert | but i don't have the h/w |
| 12:35.37 | lennert | i'd be interested though |
| 12:36.44 | jacques | cool :-) |
| 12:38.03 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay sent! |
| 12:38.25 | lennert | many thanks :) |
| 12:38.43 | dyoung-zzzz | if you have an epiphany in the next 8 hours, reply to that email and I'll do something about it. ;-) |
| 12:39.12 | dyoung-zzzz | lennert, do you have access to the bk://nslu2-linux source tree? |
| 12:39.19 | lennert | is there supposed to be a X1205 driver in there? |
| 12:39.30 | lennert | i don't use bk for religious reasons, sorry. |
| 12:39.33 | dyoung-zzzz | Yes, nslu2 has a x105 in it. |
| 12:39.40 | dyoung-zzzz | Okay, what about CVS? |
| 12:39.56 | lennert | that would be fine, but i don't presently have access anywhere |
| 12:39.59 | dyoung-zzzz | if you can CVS, the nslu2 specific files are available from sf.net |
| 12:40.04 | lennert | aha |
| 12:40.07 | dyoung-zzzz | project i openn2. |
| 12:40.24 | lennert | i'll check that out |
| 12:41.00 | dyoung-zzzz | nitey. |
| 12:41.03 | lennert | ciao |
| 12:41.17 | jacques | `night dyoung-zzzz |
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| 13:04.28 | CIA-10 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2933 10openembedded/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Sorted out licensing for openslug-image (including adding Info-ZIP to licenses.conf), and created openslug-packages. |
| 13:04.32 | CIA-10 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2932 10openembedded/BitKeeper/ (etc/logging_ok deleted/.del-logging_ok~80f38da876ecf111): Merge |
| 13:04.36 | CIA-10 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2931 10openembedded/BitKeeper/deleted/ (.del-logging_ok~80f38da876ecf111 .del-puppy_1.8.bb): |
| 13:04.36 | CIA-10 | Merge bk://nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 13:04.36 | CIA-10 | into home.(none):/home/openslug/openembedded |
| 13:06.29 | rwhitby | peteru-home: don't be alarmed - that deleted puppy is one I started, but then realised you'd done it. your copy is intact in the repo. |
| 13:07.11 | rwhitby | night all |
| 13:07.13 | dyoung-zzzz | hmm, getting real close now |
| 13:07.15 | lennert | night rwhitby |
| 13:07.22 | dyoung-zzzz | but damn I'm sleepy. |
| 13:07.22 | lennert | dyoung, weren't you going to sleep? :) |
| 13:07.30 | lennert | i'm just looking at the openn2 cvs |
| 13:07.34 | rwhitby-asleep | dyoung-zzzz won't sleep until it's done ... |
| 13:07.44 | lennert | hehe |
| 13:07.44 | rwhitby-asleep | he is a *MACHINE* |
| 13:08.15 | lennert | be careful with that though - the last couple of weeks i found myself going to sleep when my girlfriend gets up, and starting to be awake by the time she goes to bed |
| 13:09.23 | jacques | damn, list is turning into same FAQs asked over and over |
| 13:20.45 | lennert | openn2 cvs is slightly.. confusing |
| 13:24.37 | lennert | worse, it reverts a number of upstream changes |
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| 13:50.56 | VoodooZ_work | morning. |
| 13:51.07 | perlguru-work | morning |
| 13:51.19 | VoodooZ_work | any progress with your amd issue? |
| 13:51.42 | perlguru-work | i have an image, made ext3 a module |
| 13:52.28 | VoodooZ_work | good. I'm still not happy about that workaround though. |
| 13:52.46 | VoodooZ_work | I'd rather fix the real problem before I start moving my work to my opteron. |
| 13:53.19 | perlguru-work | something is making the kernel bigger: linking or compressing |
| 13:54.08 | VoodooZ_work | I wanted to compare my xeon and opteron builds but it fails in e2fprogs for no freaking reason again so I've been lazy. |
| 13:55.01 | perlguru-work | i cannot mount :) |
| 13:55.15 | perlguru-work | tried to mount my hdd yesterday |
| 13:56.39 | perlguru-work | mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/hdd failed: No such device or address |
| 13:56.54 | VoodooZ_work | is there an sda1 file in /dev |
| 13:57.19 | perlguru-work | i cant check now |
| 13:58.15 | VoodooZ_work | Are you using udev? |
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| 13:58.35 | rwhitby-asleep | tried /media/hdd instead? |
| 13:59.07 | rwhitby-asleep | cause /mnt/hdd doesn't exist in openslug unless you specifically created it .... |
| 13:59.08 | perlguru-work | yes same problem, thats why i tested with /mnt/hdd (which i created by hand) |
| 13:59.26 | rwhitby-asleep | oh. ok. Is it a standard 1.5-beta build? |
| 13:59.40 | perlguru-work | yes, but with ext3 as module |
| 13:59.45 | perlguru-work | (and jbd) |
| 13:59.52 | rwhitby-asleep | tried -t ext2 ? |
| 14:00.09 | perlguru-work | yes |
| 14:00.10 | perlguru-work | and auto |
| 14:00.21 | rwhitby-asleep | what happened with -t ext2? |
| 14:00.39 | perlguru-work | same error |
| 14:00.50 | rwhitby-asleep | ok, so it's not the modules then ... |
| 14:01.09 | perlguru-work | no those are loaded (checked with lsmod) |
| 14:01.25 | rwhitby-asleep | doesn't matter whether they are loaded or not if ext2 doesn't work either |
| 14:01.36 | perlguru-work | mount = busybox mount |
| 14:01.50 | perlguru-work | will try again in a few hours |
| 14:02.04 | rwhitby-asleep | what's in /proc/partitions? |
| 14:02.19 | perlguru-work | dont know, (no access to slug atm) |
| 14:02.56 | rwhitby-asleep | check that, and make sure /dev/sda1 exists and has the right major and minor |
| 14:03.23 | rwhitby-asleep | (when you get access, of course) |
| 14:03.31 | perlguru-work | i'll do that. thnx |
| 14:04.13 | rwhitby-asleep | also check /proc/filesystems ... |
| 14:05.10 | perlguru-work | ok, i'll poke around in /proc |
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| 14:30.10 | VoodooZ_work | perlguru-work: I got my opteron build to reach openslug-image (it fails because of size still) |
| 14:30.24 | VoodooZ_work | I'm now waiting for my fresh zeon build to complete so I can compare stuff. |
| 14:32.56 | perlguru-work | VoodooZ_work: try making ext3 a module |
| 14:33.17 | perlguru-work | its about 60k |
| 14:34.14 | VoodooZ_work | ok. |
| 14:34.46 | VoodooZ_work | Still. I want to compare to stock builds so I can compare stuff. |
| 14:35.57 | giel | phew... i've made all necessary appointments for importing my soon-to-be car |
| 14:36.03 | perlguru-work | compare the zImage-openslug thingies |
| 14:36.31 | perlguru-work | giel: what car? |
| 14:36.36 | giel | smart roadster |
| 14:36.44 | perlguru-work | :P |
| 14:37.00 | VoodooZ_work | Damn that xeon build is slow! Another reason to fix all this so I can cut my build time in 3! |
| 14:38.27 | perlguru-work | question is: are the kernel .o files also different? |
| 14:38.44 | perlguru-work | (sizes) |
| 14:38.53 | VoodooZ_work | good idea! Keep them coming. |
| 14:39.22 | perlguru-work | if those are the same, it good be linker or zipper |
| 14:39.32 | perlguru-work | good -> could |
| 14:39.50 | VoodooZ_work | yep. good thinking. |
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| 14:41.05 | VoodooZ_work | morning [g2] |
| 14:41.10 | perlguru-work | hi [g2] |
| 14:41.16 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, perlguru-work Hey |
| 14:41.29 | VoodooZ_work | Ready for battle? :) |
| 14:41.46 | [g2] | This is a community right ? :) |
| 14:41.53 | VoodooZ_work | hehehe |
| 14:42.17 | [g2] | Waz up ? |
| 14:42.18 | VoodooZ_work | Yeah, but with any alpha s/w development it's a constant battle. |
| 14:42.35 | rwhitby-asleep | [g2]: openslug package feed is up |
| 14:42.45 | VoodooZ_work | Trying to explain the size differences under AMD64 |
| 14:42.46 | perlguru-work | yes! |
| 14:42.56 | VoodooZ_work | what does that mean? |
| 14:43.00 | rwhitby-asleep | src openslug http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/1.5-beta |
| 14:43.02 | perlguru-work | feed me ;) |
| 14:43.14 | VoodooZ_work | so you can install package using a URL? |
| 14:43.17 | rwhitby-asleep | not many additional packages yet |
| 14:43.24 | perlguru-work | openssh? |
| 14:43.26 | rwhitby-asleep | openssl, miau, atftp, ... |
| 14:43.27 | perlguru-work | bash? |
| 14:43.31 | perlguru-work | perl? |
| 14:43.40 | VoodooZ_work | very nice. |
| 14:43.53 | perlguru-work | apache? |
| 14:44.13 | rwhitby-asleep | check packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb for the list |
| 14:44.29 | [g2] | rwhitby-asleep, Cool on the packages feed! |
| 14:44.36 | rwhitby-asleep | and if you make some work, then add them to the list (and don't forget to add the symlinks to the symlinks repo too) |
| 14:45.11 | rwhitby-asleep | ipkg upgrade is much more interesting when you have all the packages for your base image in the feed ... |
| 14:45.12 | [g2] | Ok |
| 14:45.46 | [g2] | rwhitby-asleep, 2.6.11 came out last night, dyoung was working 2.6.10 |
| 14:45.50 | perlguru-work | a lot of glib and locale stuff |
| 14:46.05 | rwhitby-asleep | perlguru-work: that's all the base image stuff |
| 14:46.17 | rwhitby-asleep | we basically just rsync up the tmp/deploy/ipk directory |
| 14:46.25 | [g2] | I'll be taking a look at 2.6.11 (it's dl'ing now) and I'd like to move to 2.6.11 (or at least have it available) |
| 14:46.27 | perlguru-work | a, i see. |
| 14:46.45 | perlguru-work | what do i need after a fresh flash? |
| 14:47.15 | rwhitby-asleep | just put the src line in /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 14:47.54 | perlguru-work | where is coreutils> |
| 14:48.24 | rwhitby-asleep | still in your fingers - you haven't typed it in yet ... |
| 14:48.28 | [g2] | rwhitby-asleep, .ixp... are in there. |
| 14:48.55 | rwhitby-asleep | hmm |
| 14:49.20 | rwhitby-asleep | did you see the discussion I had with kergoth in #oe about that? |
| 14:49.28 | [g2] | nope |
| 14:49.57 | [g2] | when does rikers log roll ? |
| 14:50.06 | rwhitby-asleep | dunno |
| 14:50.18 | VoodooZ_work | how long ago was it? I have a live log |
| 14:50.28 | perlguru-work | 0:00 GMT |
| 14:50.41 | VoodooZ_work | I have a part of it. |
| 14:50.48 | [g2] | !logs |
| 14:50.50 | [g2] | ~logs |
| 14:50.51 | jbot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 14:51.14 | VoodooZ_work | I can send it to you [g2] |
| 14:52.02 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, thx |
| 14:53.10 | [g2] | boy it's sweet to get to kernel.org before the /. ing |
| 14:55.53 | VoodooZ_work | how do you delete from the beginning to the cursor in Vi ? |
| 14:56.02 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, as in lines ? |
| 14:56.07 | VoodooZ_work | yep |
| 14:56.09 | [g2] | 1,.d |
| 14:56.18 | VoodooZ_work | ok. |
| 14:56.52 | VoodooZ_work | I gues to delete to the end is .,$d right? |
| 14:56.59 | [g2] | nod. |
| 14:57.19 | [g2] | After I typed it I was thinking ..... 1,$d |
| 14:57.24 | [g2] | as a joke |
| 14:58.33 | VoodooZ_work | hehehe |
| 14:58.38 | VoodooZ_work | anyways, it's sent. |
| 14:58.44 | [g2] | thx |
| 14:58.49 | VoodooZ_work | np. |
| 14:58.50 | rwhitby-asleep | ixp* are removed |
| 14:59.01 | rwhitby-asleep | and excluded from future uploads |
| 15:02.21 | jacques | this is weird - at some point Ctrl-D stopped working for me |
| 15:02.59 | [g2] | rwhitby-asleep, thx until the matte is resolved |
| 15:03.23 | rwhitby-asleep | agreed |
| 15:03.44 | rwhitby-asleep | and the gloss too |
| 15:04.12 | [g2] | ;) |
| 15:07.10 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2933.1.1 10openembedded/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added bash and coreutils to openslug-packages |
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| 15:08.33 | aendes | hi |
| 15:08.43 | rwhitby-asleep | g'day |
| 15:10.14 | aendes | i have a really strange (wiring)- Problem with my NSLU2 and an 2,5"-PSU-less-diskdrive |
| 15:11.06 | aendes | the disk is powered over the usb-port and the nslu isnt- "strong" enough |
| 15:11.31 | rwhitby-asleep | yep, I had the same problem. Solved it with a 7-port powered hub. |
| 15:11.40 | rwhitby-asleep | (the disk plugs into two ports) |
| 15:11.51 | aendes | and with a powered usb-hub the disk run, but the disk isnt known |
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| 15:20.23 | VoodooZ_work | That AMD64 size issue is odd. I just did two fresh builds on both my opteron and xeon boxes |
| 15:20.55 | VoodooZ_work | and almost every ipk package is bigger on the opteron side. The vmlinux file is ~100K bigger too. |
| 15:21.09 | VoodooZ_work | So maybe the whole cross-compiler is whacked. |
| 15:22.25 | VoodooZ_work | Any ideas what else I could compare to further isolate the issue? |
| 15:23.05 | giel | do you have your compiler flags set correctly? |
| 15:23.12 | giel | not generating debug symbols etc |
| 15:23.18 | rwhitby-asleep | cross-compile hello world on both ... |
| 15:23.20 | VoodooZ_work | Well, I didn't change them. It's all OE's choosing. |
| 15:23.42 | VoodooZ_work | good idea rwhitby-asleep |
| 15:25.36 | VoodooZ_work | ok: On Dual Xeon: 7437 Mar 2 10:24 a.out |
| 15:25.47 | VoodooZ_work | on quad opteron: 7371 Mar 2 10:25 a.out |
| 15:26.35 | VoodooZ_work | Still a pretty big difference for such a small prog. |
| 15:27.01 | rwhitby-asleep | all those extra zeroes. |
| 15:27.38 | VoodooZ_work | zeros? |
| 15:28.43 | rwhitby-asleep | all the 64 bit padding |
| 15:28.50 | VoodooZ_work | heheh |
| 15:29.12 | VoodooZ_work | yeah, but it's only ran on a 64 bit machine, it's not targetting one. |
| 15:32.03 | rwhitby-asleep | LOL - turbocharged_5 |
| 15:32.24 | rwhitby-asleep | "Just what are all those folders for?" :-) |
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| 15:52.48 | chrta | Hello |
| 15:53.04 | ByronT | hello |
| 15:57.08 | chrta | is somebody else using openslug and samba? |
| 16:09.57 | ByronT | chrta, there probably is, but they just haven't replied... |
| 16:12.18 | chrta | i want to know if anyone receives a kernel panic under heavy load |
| 16:17.30 | siddy-away | I also see occasional kernel-panics under heavy loads om openslug. |
| 16:17.43 | siddy-away | what does your stackdump say? |
| 16:18.38 | chrta | i think this: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 |
| 16:18.47 | chrta | process smbd |
| 16:19.45 | chrta | its inside the function kfree |
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| 16:19.58 | siddy-away | hm. my kernel used to crash somewhere in the cpu-scheduler. the stack was always totally smashed, so I had no clue where it really was. |
| 16:20.50 | perlguru | hi |
| 16:20.56 | [g2] | chrta, siddy-away 2.6.11 is out for a couple hours now, we are working on moving OpenSlug to that kernel |
| 16:20.58 | siddy-away | my hope is that 2.6.11 fixed this problem! ;) |
| 16:21.03 | chrta | i'm not very good in reading dumps from software i didn't wrote... |
| 16:21.12 | chrta | hi perlguru |
| 16:21.26 | siddy-away | hi [g2]! yeah, I read that! |
| 16:21.28 | chrta | great g2 |
| 16:21.52 | perlguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.58 | perlguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.05 | [g2] | dyoung was working on the 2.6.10 port some last night |
| 16:22.15 | [g2] | then he let me know 2.6.11 was out |
| 16:22.20 | perlguru | mount: Mounting /dev/sda2 on /media/hdd failed: No such device or address |
| 16:22.34 | siddy-away | no, dyoung already started with 2.6.11 |
| 16:22.46 | VoodooZ_work | perlguru: I'm discussing the AMD64 size issue in #oe |
| 16:22.46 | perlguru | with help from lennert |
| 16:22.55 | perlguru | VoodooZ_work, ok |
| 16:23.10 | [g2] | siddy-away, that was after his work on .10 |
| 16:23.31 | VoodooZ_work | the cross compiler under AMD64 is out of whack and even the hellow world program produces bigger binaries. |
| 16:24.06 | perlguru | strange, it shouldn't, because target is same |
| 16:24.36 | chrta | is it possible to compile samba using uclibc? my do_compile step fails |
| 16:24.38 | [g2] | timers changed in .10 -- I was going go get the latest OpenN2 stuff and probably pull the timer code in there so it just does GPIO |
| 16:25.16 | [g2] | chrta you'll need to rebuild everything on that TARGET_OS chain |
| 16:25.27 | VoodooZ_work | good luck with that, the latest versions of OpenN2 are quite different. |
| 16:25.54 | VoodooZ_work | That's why I only used rev. 0.7 in openslug-kernel-2.6.9 |
| 16:26.09 | VoodooZ_work | kas11 changes quite a few things in newer versions. |
| 16:26.09 | [g2] | All we need is GPIO support for the LEDs |
| 16:26.36 | VoodooZ_work | As long as I2C works I'm happy. |
| 16:27.27 | [g2] | I've started looking it, I'm not sure all the things that need to be done |
| 16:27.48 | perlguru | /proc/bus/usb is empty with hdd attached :/ |
| 16:29.47 | perlguru | not bugs -> features |
| 16:32.33 | VoodooZ_work | hehe |
| 16:34.50 | VoodooZ_work | the #oe guys seem to think that the cross-compiler under AMD64 is trying to build 64bits ARM binaries or as they have twice the word size. |
| 16:36.09 | perlguru | why does gcc 3.4.3 do that, gcc 3.3.4 did not have that problem |
| 16:36.15 | perlguru | 3.3.5 |
| 16:36.40 | VoodooZ_work | really? |
| 16:36.46 | VoodooZ_work | That could be a hint. |
| 16:36.51 | perlguru | and why does my kernel work? |
| 16:37.09 | perlguru | or is my problem maybe related? |
| 16:37.47 | VoodooZ_work | It's a pain to figure out as I'm no expert. |
| 16:37.49 | VoodooZ_work | :( |
| 16:38.12 | VoodooZ_work | Even the experts in #oe have no clue so it scares me. :) |
| 16:41.58 | siddy-away | the problem may be that a compiler is everything but deterministic... |
| 16:42.24 | siddy-away | it depends quite much on the architecture it was built on. |
| 16:43.10 | perlguru | AMD64 in this case |
| 16:43.33 | VoodooZ_work | yeah. |
| 16:44.23 | siddy-away | yeah... the root of the problem may be everywhere... perhaps it's the cross-compiler's error, or a problem with the compiler that compiled the cross-compiler or <iterate till infinity> |
| 16:44.36 | VoodooZ_work | ouch. |
| 16:45.13 | siddy-away | ever read "Reflections on Trusting Trust"? |
| 16:45.45 | VoodooZ_work | nope. |
| 16:45.50 | siddy-away | it gives a great insight on the amount of trust you actually set in your compiler: http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html |
| 16:49.04 | VoodooZ_work | That most everything else like my computer, my car or even my alarm clock! |
| 16:55.53 | chrta | my samba build failes :( |
| 16:56.09 | chrta | i already deleted the tmp and build/tmp folder |
| 16:56.12 | perlguru | VoodooZ_work, you can try the #gcc channel |
| 16:56.35 | VoodooZ_work | I guess. |
| 16:57.12 | [g2] | chrta, if samba doesn't build with uClibc and everything else does andersee and others in #uclibc will want to know about it |
| 16:57.15 | VoodooZ_work | on which server? freenode? |
| 16:57.25 | [g2] | chrta that's on freenode |
| 16:58.08 | VoodooZ_work | I mean the "official" gcc IRC channel? |
| 16:58.20 | chrta | ok, i'll try it |
| 16:58.30 | [g2] | chrta you'll also want to check the uClibc mailing list too |
| 17:06.32 | perlguru | [g2], can you add more buzzer feedback during boot? (also when boot is done) |
| 17:07.09 | perlguru | like: beep-beep when it starts, and beep when done |
| 17:07.23 | perlguru | (i like beeps) |
| 17:08.58 | [g2] | perlguru, the buzzer uses the timer interrupts it hasn't be tested hardly at all |
| 17:09.24 | [g2] | I don't think risking the system for the feedback it provides is worth it right now |
| 17:09.25 | perlguru | [g2], it beeps now ehen the boot is started |
| 17:09.47 | VoodooZ_work | I thought the buzzer used delay loops? |
| 17:09.49 | [g2] | I think that a loop, but I'd need to double check |
| 17:09.50 | perlguru | i dont see the slug now, it is under my desk |
| 17:10.01 | perlguru | bbl |
| 17:10.56 | VoodooZ_lunch | bbl lunch time |
| 17:32.09 | chrta | the samba problem is a conflict between ipc.h and posix_types.h. i fixed it on my local host. |
| 17:34.05 | kergoth | chrta: is that the __kernel_key_t failure? |
| 17:34.26 | kergoth | chrta: thats bitten a number of packages that include kernel headers when they shouldnt be. they're just lucky that they build for glibc |
| 17:34.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:35.20 | chrta | yes, it's this error |
| 17:35.56 | kergoth | not sure what the best solution is. userspace packages should really avoid including kernel headers. |
| 17:36.12 | kergoth | andersee would argue for fixing the apps to include a local set of headers, no doubt |
| 17:36.14 | chrta | i included posix_types in ipc now and removed one typedef in ipc |
| 17:37.13 | chrta | btw, i dont know anything about the kernel structure... |
| 17:51.35 | chrta | the build of cups fails, too :( |
| 17:53.34 | kergoth | oe build errors really belong in #oe, not here |
| 17:55.43 | chrta | sorry |
| 17:56.02 | kergoth | not a problem, just figured i'd let you know |
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| 18:20.52 | VoodooZ_Work | hey kergoth |
| 18:21.55 | kergoth | hey |
| 18:22.22 | VoodooZ_Work | did you see the discussion about the AMD64 based builds producing larger binaries in #oe 2 hours ago? |
| 18:22.55 | VoodooZ_Work | RP, emte and cosmicpenguin were saying it looks like the cross-compiler on amd64 produces 64 bits ARM binaries or something. |
| 18:23.18 | VoodooZ_Work | I've done comparison between my xeon and opteron boxes and almost everything is bigger. |
| 18:23.44 | VoodooZ_Work | It's mostly the .text section so somebody suggested it might be the word-size. |
| 18:23.57 | kergoth | ah, thats no good |
| 18:24.00 | VoodooZ_Work | anyways, I thought you might have ideas. |
| 18:24.03 | kergoth | hm |
| 18:24.13 | kergoth | ask me again when i've had something caffinated |
| 18:24.14 | VoodooZ_Work | I can run some test if you have ideas. |
| 18:24.18 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe |
| 18:24.21 | VoodooZ_Work | ETA? |
| 18:24.33 | VoodooZ_Work | in 1 hour? |
| 18:24.46 | kergoth | thatd be fine. probably sooner, but i've got real work to do too |
| 18:24.53 | VoodooZ_Work | ok. thanks mate. |
| 18:25.32 | perlguru | also explain why unslung works for me and openslug not |
| 18:25.43 | VoodooZ_Work | ummm. another curve ball. |
| 18:25.46 | perlguru | only diff: gcc 3.3.5 - 3.4.3 |
| 18:25.57 | VoodooZ_Work | yep. it seems to be related to 3.4.3 |
| 18:26.24 | VoodooZ_Work | the #oe guys were also talking about 32/64 bit compatibily libs. |
| 18:26.41 | perlguru | than unslung should have same prob |
| 18:27.23 | perlguru | or the crosscompiler is build different for unslung and OE |
| 18:28.16 | perlguru | meanwhile i reflash with unslung |
| 18:28.57 | kergoth | perlguru: what are you talking about? |
| 18:29.10 | kergoth | he just told you, the problem is specific to 3.4.3 |
| 18:29.31 | perlguru | i have no problems with crosscompiled packages for unslung (not OE) |
| 18:29.54 | perlguru | unslung uses gcc 3.3.5 |
| 18:30.23 | kergoth | if unslung uses gcc 3.3.5, that isnt 3.4.3, now is it? |
| 18:30.28 | VoodooZ_Work | well, i'm not absolutely certain it's specific to 3.4.3 but that's what perlguru mentionned. |
| 18:30.57 | kergoth | VoodooZ_Work: have you had a chance to pester any of the gcc hackers on irc yet? |
| 18:31.00 | VoodooZ_Work | That it stopped working after the change to 3.4.3 under x86-64 |
| 18:31.17 | VoodooZ_Work | on the gcc chanell you mean? |
| 18:32.07 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:32.20 | kergoth | dunno how popular the one on freenode is, but iirc the #gcc channel on oftc is pretty popular |
| 18:32.21 | VoodooZ_Work | ok. I'm in uclibc already so I'll check it out. |
| 18:32.34 | VoodooZ_Work | perfect. I was about to ask that. |
| 18:33.17 | VoodooZ_Work | oftc? x-chat doesn't list that one. |
| 18:34.24 | perlguru | ~oftc |
| 18:34.25 | jbot | i heard oftc is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net |
| 18:34.56 | perlguru | ~botsnack |
| 18:34.56 | jbot | perlguru: aw, gee |
| 18:34.57 | kergoth | a bunch of channels moved there |
| 18:35.01 | VoodooZ_Work | thanks |
| 18:35.04 | kergoth | when they got sick of lilo's begging for funds |
| 18:35.09 | kergoth | like #kernelnewbies |
| 18:35.12 | VoodooZ_Work | I'll add it. |
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| 18:46.28 | perlguru | #gcc |
| 19:08.56 | perlguru | bye |
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| 21:36.53 | dyoung-zzzz | well, it built. |
| 21:37.06 | dyoung-zzzz | gonna try build the rest of the image and boot it now. |
| 21:39.34 | [1]garpinc | jp30 which line? |
| 21:41.17 | dyoung-zzzz | Christ. |
| 21:41.19 | dyoung-zzzz | Its too big. |
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| 21:45.42 | siddy-away | dyoung-zzzz, that's what I feared... how big did it get? |
| 21:47.36 | dyoung-zzzz | Well, as configured (ie: before deleting crap) its 1107176 |
| 21:47.58 | dyoung-zzzz | so I just need a little bit to squeeze it in. Any suggestions on what to yank real quick and have it still work? |
| 21:48.19 | siddy-away | do you need ext3 for booting? |
| 21:48.20 | dyoung-zzzz | Hows about these host-to-host cables. |
| 21:48.46 | dyoung-zzzz | Well, kind of. I dont *need* it to boot, but I need it to test this EHCI stuff. |
| 21:49.01 | siddy-away | make it a module. |
| 21:49.35 | dyoung-zzzz | Yeah, but then I'll need to diddle more files to actually get themodule in the rootfs. I'm going for instant gratification here. |
| 21:49.36 | dyoung-zzzz | heh |
| 21:49.57 | siddy-away | removing all those strange network-protocols (appletalk etc pp) from defconfig also helps a bit. |
| 21:50.25 | siddy-away | but I fear it wont shrink it by 60k... :-\ |
| 21:50.37 | dyoung-zzzz | Well, I yanked ext3 for now |
| 21:50.44 | dyoung-zzzz | just to see if it'll boot. |
| 22:10.59 | [g2]-away | dyoung-zzzz, I'll be back in a bit, I started work on the 2.6.11 kernel today thx for your e-mail |
| 22:11.24 | dyoung-zzzz | [g2]-away, I JUST made a image, flash ing now. |
| 22:12.20 | dyoung-zzzz | [g2]-away, if you or someone can push a change to openslug-image to use a preferred kernel of 2.6.9 that would be good. |
| 22:12.39 | dyoung-zzzz | so it wont automagically use the 2.6.new |
| 22:13.35 | dyoung-zzzz | Bah, no joy. |
| 22:15.42 | siddy-away | dyoung-zzzz, not working? |
| 22:16.20 | dyoung-zzzz | it loads the kernel but fails to boot. |
| 22:16.31 | dyoung-zzzz | done, booting. Then nothing. |
| 22:17.04 | siddy-away | hm, not nice. :( |
| 22:17.12 | dyoung-zzzz | I'm not that suprised. |
| 22:23.07 | siddy-away | hm... my battery is empty... time to sleep! g'nite everybody! |
| 22:23.27 | dyoung-zzzz | nite. |
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| 22:47.11 | [g2]-away | dyoung, I gotta run soon, but what's happening on the boot ? |
| 22:47.35 | [g2]-away | did you remove the openslug-init call to leds ? |
| 22:47.48 | dyoung | no |
| 22:47.48 | [g2]-away | I was going to remove the timer stuff from the nslu2-io |
| 22:47.59 | dyoung | it says ..... Done. Booting. |
| 22:48.02 | dyoung | then nothing. |
| 22:48.45 | [g2]-away | isn't there like the first printk |
| 22:50.09 | [g2]-away | Uncompressing Linux..................................................................... done, booting the kernel. |
| 22:50.09 | [g2]-away | Linux version 2.6.9 (tom@gentoo2) (gcc version 3.4.3) #2 Mon Feb 28 21:01:43 EST 2005 |
| 22:50.28 | dyoung | No, it dont get that far. |
| 22:50.30 | [g2]-away | And you don't get the first printk which is the Linux |
| 22:50.33 | [g2]-away | ... |
| 22:50.35 | dyoung | nope |
| 22:50.44 | dyoung | unless its scrolled off the screen which I doubt. |
| 22:50.45 | [g2]-away | Linux version 2.6.11 .... |
| 22:51.02 | kergoth | so it jumped to the decompressed kernel image and died? |
| 22:51.12 | kergoth | there are so many possible causes of that, i wouldnt even know where to start debugging |
| 22:51.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:51.41 | [g2]-away | That happens PRETTY early last I checked |
| 22:52.02 | dyoung | Yep, it goes |
| 22:52.04 | dyoung | Uncompressing Linux.................................................................... done, booting the kernel. |
| 22:52.11 | dyoung | Then thats it. Nothing. |
| 22:52.50 | [g2]-away | Same kernel paramters right ? |
| 22:52.58 | dyoung | yes |
| 22:52.59 | [g2]-away | kernel cmdline paramters |
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| 22:53.20 | [g2]-away | which patches do you have applied |
| 22:53.32 | dyoung | from the patchfile I sent you. |
| 22:53.42 | dyoung | that includes everything that was in 2.6.9 |
| 22:53.53 | dyoung | (that isnt already in there of course) |
| 22:54.23 | [g2]-away | did you change any of the nslu2-io stuff ? |
| 22:54.43 | dyoung | Yes, to make it compile, which is why I'm not all that suprised it doenst boot. |
| 22:55.00 | [g2]-away | Ok... I've got to run, I'll be back in several hours |
| 22:55.06 | dyoung | ok |
| 22:55.07 | dyoung | me too. |
| 22:55.11 | [g2]-away | THX for your help on this |
| 22:55.21 | [g2]-away | It's just like the old days :) |
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