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| 00:41.24 | dyoung-zzzz | we need a glossary. |
| 00:42.50 | ByronT | I thought there was a definition page already |
| 00:43.05 | dyoung-zzzz | well apparently its not obvious enough. |
| 00:43.23 | ByronT | it is hard to just get to |
| 00:43.30 | ByronT | maybe a left side link? |
| 00:43.43 | dyoung-zzzz | "The wiki is confusing, there are too many terms, unslung, openslug, openembeeded, bitbake, etc, etc" |
| 00:44.19 | ByronT | I was thinking of the potential problems with the OpenSlug binary release |
| 00:46.45 | ByronT | maybe a new home page that offers the alternatives and then separates into the respective wiki/doco |
| 00:46.47 | ka6sox | okay I'll fix the bar and add the definitions to the front page. |
| 00:47.08 | ka6sox | bryont: we need to go thru the wiki and clean up wikiwords that are not defined. |
| 00:47.31 | ka6sox | I've already gone thru the info pages and faq/wishlist |
| 00:47.44 | ka6sox | when you get time could you go thru the howto pages? |
| 00:48.17 | ByronT | no problem... but for now, being called to supper with wife and son... bbl |
| 00:48.22 | ka6sox | k |
| 00:48.35 | ka6sox | dyoung-zzzz, jackhammers? |
| 00:51.46 | ka6sox | okay glossary is added to sidebar |
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| 01:04.29 | mtisza | does anyone know why a conf partition wouldn't be mounted on a 250GB drive after using custom partitioning |
| 01:05.39 | ka6sox | what does you partition table look like? |
| 01:07.01 | mtisza | sda1 = ~230GB ext3, sda2 = ~10GB ext3, sda3 = 700MB swap |
| 01:07.35 | mtisza | i've even tried mimiking the exart partition setup that linksys does (which does work) and that didn't work either |
| 01:08.22 | ka6sox | and you have used the linksys partitioning program (via the web) to format it? |
| 01:10.04 | dyoung-zzzz | you're missing some files probably |
| 01:10.11 | dyoung-zzzz | .dongle, etc |
| 01:10.19 | mtisza | at first I formatted it with a different linux box which has worked in the past for usb flash drives, but with the big drive it didn't work. When I format it with the web utility it does work. But I want my conf partitition to be larger than 100MB. |
| 01:11.07 | mtisza | I've been following the howto on custom partitions |
| 01:11.38 | mtisza | what is .dongle and what can I check to see if it's the problem |
| 01:12.20 | dyoung-zzzz | its one of the ways linksys detects if a drive is formatted or not. |
| 01:12.20 | mtisza | i just did a find and it failed for .dongle |
| 01:12.34 | dyoung-zzzz | touch /share/hdd/conf/.dongle |
| 01:12.43 | mtisza | one sec |
| 01:13.21 | dyoung-zzzz | the other way you could do it is format it on linksys, take it to another machine, cpio or tar the original, re parttitio, put back files. |
| 01:13.54 | mtisza | the howto claims that didn't work |
| 01:14.33 | dyoung-zzzz | were the dot files saved? |
| 01:14.51 | mtisza | i don't know |
| 01:15.36 | dyoung-zzzz | well good luck. |
| 01:17.18 | mtisza | thanks |
| 01:18.09 | mtisza | are there any known issues with larger drives and unslung or linux in general? |
| 01:18.43 | ByronT | reports of 1TB disks being used in the mailing list... |
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| 01:33.19 | garpinc | I am trying to compile esp ghostscript with cups. The problem I am running into is it can't find the libraries in /opt/lib unless I set them in LD_LIBRARY_PATH. |
| 01:34.12 | garpinc | It has -Wl,-rpath,/opt/lib and -L/opt/lib on gcc command line so I would have expected that to work but it doesn't. Any ideas? |
| 01:36.01 | jp30 | what are the offending libraries? are they part of espgs, or some other package? |
| 01:49.51 | garpinc | they are part of other packages... |
| 01:50.23 | garpinc | i.e cups libtiff libpng etc... |
| 01:50.40 | jp30 | and this problem is happenning runtime, not linktime right? |
| 01:50.46 | garpinc | runtime... |
| 01:51.35 | jp30 | with the gs binary? |
| 01:51.51 | garpinc | yes. |
| 01:53.57 | garpinc | Do you have a suggestion? |
| 01:54.09 | jp30 | ...thinking... |
| 01:55.02 | jp30 | have you tracked down the command that actually builds the gs binary? perhaps your the -rpath param is getting lost en-route |
| 01:55.52 | garpinc | Yes I have: ./obj/echogs -w ./obj/ldt.tr -n - /home/slug/unslung/toolchain/armv5b-softfloat-linux/gcc-3.3.5-glibc-2.2.5/bin/armv5b-softfloat-linux-gcc -L../../staging/opt/lib -Wl,-rpath,/opt/lib -L/opt/lib -o ./bin/gs |
| 01:56.01 | garpinc | I think that's it. |
| 01:56.44 | jp30 | what does echogs do? |
| 01:58.00 | garpinc | It's a binary that's built natively in the build process. |
| 01:58.39 | jp30 | i figured that; i thought you might know why the build process is doing things this way. i have the sources here and am looking through them too |
| 01:59.23 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, the /etc/issue stuff makes sense. We can flush the .openslug file |
| 01:59.34 | garpinc | I don't know what it's purpose is... |
| 02:00.15 | jp30 | ok, i'm looking at the source... |
| 02:00.38 | garpinc | Just one thing however... I might be wrong but I think I only started having this problem when I included cups support |
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| 02:02.29 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: done, pushed, and updated version to 1.5-beta (as a release candidate, unless you disagree) |
| 02:03.28 | jp30 | garpinc, can you commit your current version of espgs into cvs if it's not there already? i'd like to try building it myself |
| 02:03.33 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, fine by me. There are minor issues or some rough edges but I'm very happy with things |
| 02:03.39 | _chris_ | sad to report a disk today failed in one of my slugs |
| 02:04.30 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: I'm building 1.5-beta on nudi now, and will flash that to prodslug tonight. |
| 02:04.43 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, cool. |
| 02:05.14 | jp30 | garpinc: also, the echogs line does just what it says - it "echos" a lot of stuff into that file obj/ldt.tr; the actually linking is done later. |
| 02:06.34 | garpinc | I am looking in ldt.tr |
| 02:07.14 | garpinc | final linking is /home/slug/unslung/toolchain/armv5b-softfloat-linux/gcc-3.3.5-glibc-2.2.5/bin/ar |
| 02:07.14 | garpinc | mv5b-softfloat-linux-gcc -L../../staging/opt/lib -Wl,-rpath,/opt/lib -L/opt/lib |
| 02:07.14 | garpinc | -o ./bin/gs |
| 02:07.26 | garpinc | and the libs |
| 02:07.45 | garpinc | -rdynamic -L../../staging/opt/lib -Wl,-rpath,/opt/lib -L/opt/lib -ldl -lcupsima |
| 02:07.45 | garpinc | ge -ltiff -ljpeg -lpng -lm -lz -lcups -lssl -lcrypto -lnsl -lm |
| 02:08.02 | garpinc | I see rpath... |
| 02:08.26 | ByronT | maybe a binary for me to set OpenSlug upgrade instructions? |
| 02:10.08 | jp30 | maybe there are funny paths built into some of the libraries you are using? |
| 02:10.39 | garpinc | how can I tell? |
| 02:11.11 | jp30 | try running the broken gs binary on a slug with LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 |
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| 02:12.58 | jp30 | you should see a list of items of the form "libname => path". if <libname> ever has a path with it something is wrong |
| 02:13.43 | jp30 | ... sorry that wasn't very clear: if you something like "/usr/lib/libblah.so => not found" there's trouble |
| 02:14.54 | garpinc | lets go private... |
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| 02:41.15 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/sources/espgs/patch: added cups support |
| 02:43.10 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/espgs.mk: added cups support |
| 02:48.21 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/espgs.mk: added other staging stuff |
| 02:50.51 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/cups.mk: added cups staging stuff |
| 03:16.05 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/espgs.mk: espgs build fixes |
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| 03:46.32 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/sources/espgs/control: corrected version |
| 03:57.29 | [g2] | jacques, ping |
| 04:12.42 | billwernet2 | g2: belated pong |
| 04:15.16 | [g2] | billwernet2, how goes ? |
| 04:15.28 | [g2] | I'm curious what happened with OpenSlug testing |
| 04:15.36 | billwernet2 | good so far |
| 04:15.44 | [g2] | excellent |
| 04:16.09 | billwernet2 | I have been doing bluetooth stuff |
| 04:16.16 | billwernet2 | I have not yet installed svn server |
| 04:16.38 | [g2] | that's fine. |
| 04:16.53 | [g2] | no bad news is good news right ? |
| 04:16.59 | [g2] | :) |
| 04:17.02 | billwernet2 | true |
| 04:17.19 | [g2] | You're following the notes on the wiki about changes right ? |
| 04:17.29 | billwernet2 | yes |
| 04:17.51 | [g2] | [cc]smart ran into the gateway issue earlier |
| 04:18.08 | [g2] | I wrote that up yesterday |
| 04:18.24 | [g2] | but he didn't see it I guess |
| 04:22.08 | ka6sox | bummer. |
| 04:28.14 | VoodooZ_home | Hey guis |
| 04:28.21 | VoodooZ_home | s/guis/guys/g |
| 04:28.29 | ka6sox | hey |
| 04:28.56 | VoodooZ_home | Is Openslug officially beta now? |
| 04:29.35 | [g2] | VoodooZ_home, not yet but very soon |
| 04:29.57 | [g2] | We've got a beta candidate |
| 04:30.02 | VoodooZ_home | ok. I just read some comments about it between you and rwhitby so I wasn't sure. |
| 04:30.16 | ByronT | let me see if it kills Frankenslug |
| 04:30.16 | VoodooZ_home | I still haven't had time to merge in my changes in but it looks good. |
| 04:30.32 | [g2] | from my boot "OpenSlug 1.5-beta LKG0F9D2C ttyS0 |
| 04:30.32 | [g2] | " |
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| 05:20.08 | VoodooZ_home | night |
| 05:20.39 | [g2] | nite |
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| 06:03.03 | [g2] | nite all |
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| 07:50.09 | rwhitby-away | prodslug is now running OpenSlug-1.5-beta (release candidate) |
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| 08:50.00 | perlguru-work | morning |
| 08:50.16 | rwhitby-away | mornin |
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| 09:22.11 | perlguru-work | hi |
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| 11:40.21 | chrta | hello all |
| 11:42.56 | rwhitby | g'day |
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| 11:43.36 | chrta | i'm not lone :-) |
| 11:43.45 | chrta | ..alone.. |
| 11:44.28 | rwhitby | no, it's normally a slow period at this time |
| 11:44.52 | chrta | i'm trying to build a openslug image... but i'm new to this |
| 11:45.22 | rwhitby | which wiki page instructions are you following? |
| 11:45.52 | chrta | i followed the gettingstarted wiki page and only changed unslung to openslug |
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| 11:48.08 | chrta | im back, i missclicked somehow... |
| 11:48.33 | rwhitby | that page should work - what error are you seeing? |
| 11:49.06 | chrta | nothing right now, thanks |
| 11:50.03 | chrta | ive one questin. should i install a seriall port or a jtag port to my nslu2 when i try to flash openslug? |
| 11:50.31 | dyoung | You dont need a JTAG port unless youre planning to play with bootloaders |
| 11:50.45 | rwhitby | if you set up your slug for static addressing, and can telnet into redboot, then you don't need serial |
| 11:50.47 | dyoung | a serial port is sufficient for most experimentation. |
| 11:50.51 | chrta | no, i dont want to play with it |
| 11:50.58 | rwhitby | but serial is certainly handy |
| 11:51.13 | dyoung | If you dont plan to do much playing around, you probably dont even need serial. |
| 11:53.50 | chrta | ok, very good, thanks. |
| 11:54.24 | chrta | is samba working in openslug? |
| 11:54.57 | rwhitby | dunno yet |
| 11:55.40 | chrta | because the linksys firmware (R25 and R29) are quite unstable if i copy large amount of files... |
| 11:56.06 | chrta | my box crashes after reading or writing about 2GB |
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| 12:37.50 | Wipmac | hi. one thing: where do i have to put my aliases into, in order to have them after login? the stuff i enter in /etc/profile seems to be ignored. wonder why !? |
| 12:40.47 | chrta | sorry, i dont know. i finished my first openslug build now :-) |
| 12:42.12 | Wipmac | on openslug now.. nice! |
| 12:43.16 | Wipmac | you should enter yourslef to the yahoo-group-database as number 19 then! |
| 12:44.57 | chrta | first i try to flash it. do u know where i can fint how to flash openslung? |
| 12:48.53 | dyoung | you can use the web interface. But you should set your gateway first. it'll help the first boot finish. |
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| 12:50.41 | dyoung | morning sunshine. |
| 12:50.59 | dyoung | [g2], chrta is a new openslug builder. |
| 12:51.11 | [g2] | right back at you ! |
| 12:51.18 | chrta | hi, im back |
| 12:51.19 | [g2] | chrta ? |
| 12:51.27 | [g2] | hi chrta ! |
| 12:51.39 | dyoung | chrta, [g2] is the openslug release manager. |
| 12:52.03 | chrta | hi [g2] and dyoung |
| 12:52.06 | [g2] | I've been Fired! |
| 12:53.08 | [g2] | chrta, So your using OpenSlug ? |
| 12:53.26 | chrta | i boot my nslu2 without any disk connected. can u telle me where to find the flash-image? |
| 12:53.40 | chrta | i build it 10 minutes ago and i want to use it |
| 12:54.12 | [g2] | What firmware are you running on your nslu2 right now |
| 12:54.31 | chrta | 23R25 |
| 12:55.23 | [g2] | chrta, Read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BetaRelease |
| 12:55.43 | [g2] | and the TurnUp procedure that linked inside |
| 12:56.38 | chrta | thx |
| 12:57.07 | chrta | i dont have much time now, i will be back if im ready with that. |
| 12:57.09 | perlguru-work | hi [g2], i'll try openslug tonight ;) no reason anymore to delay it :) |
| 12:57.18 | [g2] | chrta, np. Read it all first and then if you have any questions let me know |
| 12:57.21 | [g2] | perlguru-work, cool! |
| 13:00.14 | perlguru-work | is there a package feed for openslug yet? |
| 13:01.21 | [g2] | perlguru-work, it's being looked into |
| 13:01.41 | chrta | i set my nslu2 to fixed ip etc. i dont need the data on my hdd. can i flash the image now? |
| 13:01.47 | [g2] | there are a bunch of packages in OE and some testing is underway and ppl are starting to add to the OE repo |
| 13:02.05 | [g2] | chrta, did you read everything ? |
| 13:02.24 | [g2] | chrta, what did it say in the TurnUP procedure ? |
| 13:02.40 | chrta | yes, but i have only the linksys firmware installed -> no ssh (?). |
| 13:03.09 | perlguru-work | is nfs-utils available in OE? |
| 13:03.49 | perlguru-work | chrta: use telnet |
| 13:03.53 | chrta | there is something about preparing the hdd. but how? do i have to install unslung first to config the hdd via telnet? |
| 13:06.30 | perlguru-work | sda1 = data, sda2 = rootfs, sda3 = swap |
| 13:06.42 | perlguru-work | big/small/small |
| 13:07.24 | [g2] | chrta, Is there anything on the hd ? |
| 13:08.12 | chrta | yes, but it could be deleted |
| 13:09.10 | [g2] | chrta, I don't know if fdisk is on there but mke2fs is |
| 13:11.25 | CIA-1 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2906 10openembedded/packages/mt-daapd/ (mt-daapd_0.2.1.1.bb files/mt-daapd.init): added startup script support |
| 13:12.14 | chrta | ok, do i have to prepare my hdd now? |
| 13:13.02 | [g2] | chrta, How is your hd formatted ? |
| 13:13.15 | [g2] | You don't have to necessarily delete your data |
| 13:13.54 | chrta | its formatted with the linksys firmware, unslung was installed there, too. |
| 13:14.00 | chrta | is it ext3 ? |
| 13:15.35 | [g2] | chrta, You can put the system sw on sda2 which is where the old system sw was |
| 13:17.03 | chrta | ok, i have some troubles to get the hdd working on my linux host :-( |
| 13:17.57 | [g2] | chrta, you can do that from the nslu2 |
| 13:18.34 | chrta | ok, i can copy the files via smb to the nslu2 hdd? |
| 13:19.40 | [g2] | chrta, Let's back up for a moment |
| 13:20.20 | [g2] | You understand that OpenSlug is very late Alpha firmware or very Early Beta firmware ? |
| 13:20.41 | [g2] | we are very near our first Beta release |
| 13:20.59 | chrta | yes, i dont need the box right now. -> its a chep embedded environment |
| 13:21.10 | [g2] | excellent |
| 13:21.31 | [g2] | Have you been able to telnet into Redboot during startup ? |
| 13:22.04 | chrta | yes |
| 13:22.14 | chrta | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.07 | [g2] | chrta, you are saying you upgraded unslung twice via Redboot ? |
| 13:23.14 | chrta | no |
| 13:23.30 | chrta | i only deleted the config area via redboot |
| 13:23.39 | chrta | i installed unslung via web frontend |
| 13:24.02 | chrta | i format my hdd via linksys fw now. |
| 13:24.04 | [g2] | Ok deleting the config and is getting to the Redboot prompt |
| 13:24.23 | [g2] | chrta, You don't need to format your hd |
| 13:24.29 | [g2] | it's already formatted |
| 13:25.01 | chrta | yes, but i think its more simple then |
| 13:25.34 | [g2] | chrta, not really |
| 13:28.38 | chrta | which files should i copy to the disk? not the whole /home/slug/ dir? |
| 13:29.59 | [g2] | chrta, before you do anything read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp |
| 13:30.15 | [g2] | That describes 99% of what needs to be done |
| 13:30.34 | [g2] | It should be *very* clear what's happening from there |
| 13:30.53 | [g2] | If it is not, then we need to clear up things before proceeding |
| 13:32.17 | chrta | my problem: i want to run the system from hdd. But where should i type in "mount -t ..." if no unslung firmware is installed on my nslu2? |
| 13:33.20 | [g2] | chrta, after the OpenSlug firmware is flashed and rebooted you hotplug the hdd drive into port1 |
| 13:33.28 | [g2] | then you can issue the mount commands |
| 13:34.00 | [g2] | What command would you issue ? |
| 13:35.31 | chrta | sry, my english is noct very good? what do u mean with ur question? |
| 13:37.26 | [g2] | chrta, I'm sure your english is better than my second language :) |
| 13:37.48 | [g2] | My question is what command from the command prompt would you type in to mount the hard drive |
| 13:39.15 | chrta | mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/card |
| 13:39.30 | chrta | i mount a ext3 hdd sda1 to the dir /mnt/card |
| 13:40.03 | perlguru-work | What about /etc/fstab? |
| 13:41.00 | chrta | if i dont want to type the whole lin, but only mount /dev/sda1 i must add a line to the fstab |
| 13:41.35 | perlguru-work | yep |
| 13:43.12 | perlguru-work | openslug is a normal linux on the slug ;) |
| 13:45.01 | [g2] | chrta, exactly except you can use sda2 since that's where the Linksys system files are |
| 13:45.53 | [g2] | then either tar up that full disk on to (sda1 the data partition) or erase those files and follow the TurnUp proceedure |
| 13:47.49 | chrta | i'm searching the openslug fw image on my hosts hdd, i cannot find it. but the build process finished with NOTE: package openslug-image-1.0: completed NOTE: build 200502281151: completed |
| 13:48.09 | perlguru-work | look in build/tmp/deplog/images |
| 13:48.24 | perlguru-work | deplog->deploy |
| 13:48.46 | chrta | thx, found it |
| 13:50.27 | perlguru-work | maybe all your questions disappear when you flash and use openslug ;) |
| 13:50.27 | chrta | there are 3 files. which one should i use? the openslug.flashhdisk.img, right? |
| 13:50.45 | chrta | i hope so :-) |
| 13:51.07 | [g2] | chrta, that's the one |
| 13:51.09 | perlguru-work | use the .img one |
| 13:51.11 | chrta | good |
| 13:51.19 | perlguru-work | :) |
| 13:51.21 | chrta | i'll try it now |
| 13:51.21 | VoodooZ_Work | morning |
| 13:51.27 | perlguru-work | hi VoodooZ_Work |
| 13:51.27 | chrta | hello |
| 13:51.47 | VoodooZ_Work | perlguru-work: did you know the AMD64 problem appears to be fixed in the latest ipkg? |
| 13:52.05 | VoodooZ_Work | Or at least it builds fine for me and CosmicPenguin |
| 13:52.18 | [g2] | VoodooZ_Work, morning |
| 13:52.19 | perlguru-work | i read it in the logs.i'll try tonight when i am building the openslug image |
| 13:54.38 | VoodooZ_Work | cool. |
| 13:55.05 | chrta | a ssh server is running in openslug? |
| 13:55.24 | [g2] | dropbear just like is says in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp |
| 13:55.30 | perlguru-work | my project for this week: migrate to openslug packages i use |
| 13:55.51 | perlguru-work | s/ /and/ |
| 13:55.53 | VoodooZ_Work | wow openslug is certainly picking up speed as I use to hear only of unslung most of the time and now it's all openslug related. |
| 13:57.05 | chrta | sorry, i dont know that dropbear is a sshd. |
| 13:57.25 | [g2] | chrta, that's ok |
| 13:58.10 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby: great work. You've added most of my private changes! good. |
| 13:58.25 | VoodooZ_Work | Were you planning on adding the /dev/buzzer node as well? |
| 13:58.41 | perlguru-work | beep |
| 13:58.47 | perlguru-work | :) |
| 13:58.57 | VoodooZ_Work | or whatever. As long as I know so I won't bother doing it. |
| 13:59.03 | perlguru-work | echo beep > /dev/buzzer |
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| 13:59.52 | chrta | my firefox crashed... |
| 14:00.25 | chrta | connected via ssh to the nslu2 |
| 14:01.09 | [g2] | Congrats ! |
| 14:01.51 | [g2] | Now just a couple more steps and you'll be booted to the hd |
| 14:02.52 | chrta | could u send me the link to the TurnUp page. i lost it |
| 14:03.05 | VoodooZ_Work | Openslug is growing so fast I feel like i'm playing catchup! :) |
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| 14:05.06 | [g2] | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp |
| 14:05.17 | chrta | thx |
| 14:08.29 | Wipmac | g2: the openslug-beta-binary is not out yet though, right? |
| 14:09.02 | [g2] | Wipmac, correct |
| 14:10.19 | [g2] | Wipmac, We are very concerned about doing the right thing with regard to the Intel IP for the ixp drivers |
| 14:10.47 | chrta | the line in the fstab should be "/dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0" ? |
| 14:11.04 | Wipmac | i see g2 |
| 14:13.13 | [g2] | chrta, type #swapon /dev/sda3; cat /proc/mounts |
| 14:15.34 | chrta | swapon /dev/sda3 -> invalid argument |
| 14:16.08 | chrta | but the fstype of /dev/sda3 is linux swap... |
| 14:16.23 | rwhitby-asleep | mkswap /dev/sda3 |
| 14:16.43 | [g2] | beat me too it |
| 14:17.21 | perlguru-work | Wipmac: chrta is openslugger #19, i'll be #20, so maybe tommorrow openslug will be Beta ;) |
| 14:17.27 | perlguru-work | missed him :( |
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| 14:18.52 | chrta | thx for ur great help. I must leave no. Till next time. bye |
| 14:19.32 | [g2] | did chrta update the list ? |
| 14:19.44 | perlguru-work | guess not |
| 14:19.56 | perlguru-work | no-one told him to. |
| 14:20.24 | [g2] | Till next time. bye |
| 14:20.31 | perlguru-work | bye |
| 14:20.42 | [g2] | that was a quote from chrta |
| 14:21.48 | perlguru-work | i see |
| 14:22.02 | VoodooZ_Work | [g2], rwhitby pushed the /dev/leds node, are you thinking of adding something for the buzzer like /dev/buzzer or /dev/beep? |
| 14:22.34 | perlguru-work | please call it: /dev/buzzer |
| 14:22.49 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, I'd prefer that as my robot code already uses that |
| 14:23.03 | [g2] | VoodooZ_Work, no buzzer or blinking leds right now |
| 14:23.12 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm glad he created the leds one as leds too. |
| 14:23.33 | VoodooZ_Work | I know but just the node. rwhitby added leds already |
| 14:23.39 | [g2] | well that was to match the code you put up on the wiki :) |
| 14:23.44 | [g2] | that I used |
| 14:23.47 | VoodooZ_Work | good. |
| 14:24.03 | [g2] | VoodooZ_Work, you know that udev isn't being used right now |
| 14:24.12 | VoodooZ_Work | yep. |
| 14:24.24 | VoodooZ_Work | I might remove it eventually myself too. |
| 14:24.54 | [g2] | I'd like like to try and move to udev soon |
| 14:25.07 | perlguru-work | why not now? |
| 14:25.10 | VoodooZ_Work | it's as easy as adding udev to your openslug.conf. |
| 14:25.22 | VoodooZ_Work | I've been using it for months now. |
| 14:25.51 | perlguru-work | running udev for months now on my gentoo box |
| 14:25.54 | [g2] | perlguru-work, feature creep on the beta |
| 14:26.03 | VoodooZ_Work | The onlly thing is, /dev/leds and /dev/buzzer are not detected automatically so you have to manually do it via /etc/udev/links.conf |
| 14:26.17 | [g2] | n2_ledm would be |
| 14:26.40 | perlguru-work | create a good udev rule for it |
| 14:27.27 | VoodooZ_Work | the best way to learn is to try! |
| 14:27.37 | VoodooZ_Work | Takes a few seconds only. |
| 14:27.53 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, I guess i was too lazy to add a rule for it. |
| 14:28.03 | [g2] | I know it is straight forward |
| 14:28.15 | [g2] | I'm just saying is not a priority for the first Beta |
| 14:28.20 | VoodooZ_Work | of course. |
| 14:28.37 | [g2] | It can follow very quickly after that |
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| 14:29.12 | VoodooZ_Work | I might even remove it as I don't need it really. my hardware never changes. |
| 14:29.37 | perlguru-work | http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html |
| 14:29.55 | VoodooZ_Work | You guys have added quite a lot of stuff to the kernel lately and I find myself having little space so I'll have to clean up a little. |
| 14:30.22 | perlguru-work | VoodooZ_Work: need a printer on your robot? It is possible ;) |
| 14:30.42 | VoodooZ_Work | PLus, most of my private changes are being put in by you and rwhitby so I might wait it out and make the my changes after the storm is over. |
| 14:30.51 | VoodooZ_Work | ummm. A printer? Maybe not! :) |
| 14:31.05 | VoodooZ_Work | Could be useful for printing out a copy of the maze. |
| 14:31.09 | VoodooZ_Work | NOT! |
| 14:31.44 | VoodooZ_Work | btw, what's that nettrap_poll crap? I'm getting symbol not found stuff when starting up the CSR now. |
| 14:33.04 | [g2] | dunno |
| 14:33.09 | [g2] | I haven't seen that |
| 14:34.32 | VoodooZ_Work | ok. It's probably my cleanup somehow. I'll try from scratch. |
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| 15:57.40 | chrta | hello |
| 15:58.08 | chrta | openslug is running :-) now i will install some packages |
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| 16:15.50 | garpinc | I have run out of space in /share/hdd/conf. I read IncreaseSpaceAvailableForPackages howto. Is that what everyone is doing to address this problem? |
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| 16:19.48 | chrta | hello |
| 16:20.11 | chrta | where can i find packages for openslug? |
| 16:20.39 | [g2]-away | chrta, wb |
| 16:21.36 | [g2] | chrta, what packages are you looking for ? |
| 16:21.43 | chrta | hi, openslug is running now :-) i added me to the beta testers list at #19 |
| 16:21.56 | chrta | a ftpd or samba ? |
| 16:22.21 | [g2] | bitbake samba; bitbake openslug-image |
| 16:22.49 | [g2] | the second bitbake openslug-image rebuilds the Packages index |
| 16:23.18 | [g2] | I'm sure there's a ftpd in oe but I don't know which one |
| 16:23.41 | [g2] | chrta, THX for adding yourself to the yahoo DB! |
| 16:23.53 | chrta | why is this necessary (to rebuild the package index)? |
| 16:24.26 | [g2] | Becase the old one won't have the samba package you build |
| 16:24.40 | chrta | to install the packages i copy them to the openslug hdd via wget and then ipkg install. Is this correct? |
| 16:25.55 | [g2] | you can copy them to the hdd and setup ipkg.conf to src from file:///mnt/sda1/.... |
| 16:26.17 | kergoth | using a feed really is best, then you dont have to deal with dependencies, dont have to install them all manually |
| 16:26.45 | [g2] | kergoth, right but the feed isn't setup yet :) |
| 16:27.04 | kergoth | i didnt specify an official feed. that file:/// url is a feed as well |
| 16:27.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:27.13 | [g2] | :) |
| 16:28.16 | chrta | for samba i add "source samba file://mnt/sda1/sambapackage.ipg" line to ipkg.conf? |
| 16:29.06 | kergoth | no |
| 16:29.13 | chrta | :-( |
| 16:29.14 | kergoth | you point at the location where the Packages file resides |
| 16:29.15 | kergoth | with the ipk files |
| 16:29.31 | kergoth | just drop tmp/deploy/ipk on your hard drive, point ipkg at it, and start installing things |
| 16:32.10 | chrta | how do i point ipkg at it? "source file://dev/sda1/ipk_dir" in ipkg.conf? |
| 16:33.30 | kergoth | src [source name] [url] |
| 16:33.32 | [g2] | It's like src openslug file://dev/sda1/ipk_dir/Packages |
| 16:34.05 | chrta | ok, thx |
| 16:36.54 | chrta | i come back in a few hours... dinner |
| 16:37.09 | chrta | bye |
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| 16:43.23 | xav | oh |
| 16:43.57 | perlguru | yep, i'm gonna be #20 |
| 16:48.25 | perlguru | VoodooZ_Work, newest ipkg-native build for me too. |
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| 16:57.08 | VoodooZ_Work | perlguru-bbl: good! |
| 16:57.27 | VoodooZ_Work | Let me know how it goes wiht a full build of openslug though. |
| 16:57.42 | VoodooZ_Work | As mine comes up with a size error at the end of openslug-image. |
| 16:58.00 | VoodooZ_Work | I think the file kernel or something is overflowing somehow. |
| 16:59.03 | perlguru-bbl | k |
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| 17:50.11 | [g2] | [cc]smart, hey |
| 17:50.21 | kergoth | ~lart monday |
| 17:50.30 | [g2] | Don't know if you noticed my comment in the logs |
| 17:51.32 | [g2] | [cc]smart, I had documented the gateway issue in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp the day before you ran into it |
| 18:05.17 | perlguru-bbl | NOTE: Multiple libraries (libc.so.6, libcrypt.so.1, libm.so.6, libmemusage.so, libpthread.so.0, libresolv.so.2, librt.so.1, libutil.so.1, libnsl.so.1, libnss_files.so.2, libnss_compat.so.2, libnss_dns.so.2, libdl.so.2, libanl.so.1, libBrokenLocale.so.1) found and LEAD_SONAME not defined |
| 18:05.17 | perlguru-bbl | NOTE: Multiple libraries (libnss_hesiod.so.2, libnss_nis.so.2, libnss_nisplus.so.2) found and LEAD_SONAME not defined |
| 18:05.35 | kergoth | that isnt an error |
| 18:05.53 | perlguru-bbl | got also a traceback |
| 18:05.54 | [g2] | it's a NOTE: |
| 18:06.08 | kergoth | then the traceback has nothing to do with those notes. |
| 18:06.14 | perlguru-bbl | OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/maurice/nslu2 |
| 18:06.14 | perlguru-bbl | d/tmp/staging/shlibs' |
| 18:06.23 | VoodooZ_Work | perlguru-bbl: Same error here too. |
| 18:06.31 | kergoth | report it in #oe |
| 18:06.38 | kergoth | which is where openslug dev should be happening anyway |
| 18:08.22 | perlguru | kergoth, i am in #oe now |
| 18:08.57 | kergoth | i see that, now wait for a response. |
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| 18:09.49 | perlguru | i am waiting. if i have openslug running, i'll be there more often.... |
| 18:10.09 | kergoth | whether its running or not, thats the right place to report such issues. |
| 18:15.11 | perlguru | VoodooZ_Work, create the dir by hand (tip from pb_) |
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| 18:16.56 | VoodooZ_Work | dir? /home/maurice/nslu2 you mean? |
| 18:17.09 | chrta | hi, i'm back. |
| 18:17.13 | VoodooZ_Work | This is just temporary right? |
| 18:17.42 | kergoth | VoodooZ_Work: eh? you apparently missed the rest of his error |
| 18:17.48 | kergoth | 12:51 < perlguru-bbl> d/tmp/staging/shlibs' |
| 18:17.49 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah. sorry. |
| 18:17.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:18.01 | VoodooZ_Work | ok. I'll double-check mine to make sure. |
| 18:18.14 | perlguru | trying it now ;) |
| 18:20.12 | perlguru | ok, it helped |
| 18:20.23 | [g2] | perlguru, you pulled from oe-devel ? |
| 18:20.51 | chrta | my openslug box locked up when copying a 30MB file via wget (ftp) :-( |
| 18:20.56 | perlguru | no, manually fix it (create the dir) |
| 18:21.23 | perlguru | pb_ is gonna solve it when he is at home |
| 18:21.52 | [g2] | chrta, I've been running with the Intel Driver in an interrupt mode instead of polled mode |
| 18:22.20 | [g2] | chrta, siddy was having issues until he went to the interrupt mode under heavy load |
| 18:23.03 | chrta | [g2]: so the intel ethernet driver is unstable? |
| 18:23.30 | VoodooZ_Work | Wasn't there a newer version out? |
| 18:23.55 | [g2] | there is a newer verions but we haven't incoporated that yet |
| 18:24.16 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, but did you hear what's new with it? |
| 18:24.32 | [g2] | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/StabilizeEthernetDriver |
| 18:24.51 | [g2] | then page needs to be slightly tweaked |
| 18:25.47 | [g2] | chrta, go into the tmp/work/ixp... and tweak that file by commenting out those 3 lines |
| 18:25.52 | [g2] | then rm tmp/stamps/ixp425-eth-1.1-r0.do_compile |
| 18:25.58 | [g2] | and bb openslug-image |
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| 18:26.18 | ka6sox-zzzz | hey LexDelani |
| 18:26.29 | ByronT | [g2]- check PM |
| 18:26.29 | LexDelani | hi ka6sox-zzzz |
| 18:26.36 | LexDelani | how are you all |
| 18:26.39 | chrta | thx g2 |
| 18:26.42 | chrta | hi |
| 18:27.00 | ka6sox | LexDelani, pretty good. |
| 18:27.13 | LexDelani | ka6sox, Good to hear |
| 18:27.26 | LexDelani | I myself have been too busy lately |
| 18:28.10 | ka6sox | thats not fun...no time for playing. |
| 18:28.28 | LexDelani | Great work on the crosstools btw |
| 18:29.11 | LexDelani | no its not fun, but well, work has to be done anyway |
| 18:29.24 | ka6sox | ya... |
| 18:30.04 | LexDelani | is it worth the trouble for me to resling with 3.18? i've got 3.17 |
| 18:33.47 | LexDelani | can anyone help me with these errors? |
| 18:33.47 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-inc (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:33.47 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-lib (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:34.07 | LexDelani | it keeps downloading and not installing these with ipkg upgrade |
| 18:35.08 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-arch-bin (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:35.08 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-arch-inc (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:35.08 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-arch-lib (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:35.08 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-bin (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:35.08 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-inc (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:35.08 | LexDelani | Not installing crosstool-native-lib (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. |
| 18:35.19 | LexDelani | (sorry for spamming) |
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| 18:57.42 | [cc]smart | [g2]: hi, just in |
| 18:58.53 | [g2] | hey |
| 18:59.06 | [g2] | [cc]smart, did you see my note from before ? |
| 18:59.26 | [cc]smart | yes |
| 19:00.25 | [g2] | cool |
| 19:00.46 | [cc]smart | i feel, the gateway should be verified on startup, and if there's none defined, it shouldn't be put in the file |
| 19:01.02 | [cc]smart | that way, at least comminucation with the device is ppossible to enter one |
| 19:01.23 | [cc]smart | right now, for the user there is no chance to get in anymore if he didn't follow this upfront |
| 19:02.21 | ByronT | gateway only allows slug to reach outside lan |
| 19:02.44 | [cc]smart | yes, but if gateway keyword is in the file without any specification, the result is that the interface stays down |
| 19:03.02 | ByronT | ah... I did not check that |
| 19:03.12 | ByronT | <- running OpenSlug 1.3 |
| 19:03.42 | ByronT | comment out gateway, and leave either to dhcp or user to set? |
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| 19:06.04 | [cc]smart | i'd think static is the best default |
| 19:06.17 | [cc]smart | failsafe |
| 19:06.37 | ByronT | just like the nslu2 in *vrigin* mode |
| 19:11.23 | perlguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.23 | perlguru | openslug-image-1.0-r4: task do_rootfs: failed |
| 19:11.23 | perlguru | :/ |
| 19:11.36 | kergoth | thats the one voodooz hit |
| 19:11.48 | perlguru | so it is AMD64 related. |
| 19:11.50 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah. |
| 19:12.00 | VoodooZ_Work | My xeon build works fine. |
| 19:12.17 | VoodooZ_Work | But the AMD one seems to produce a slighty bigger kernel or something. |
| 19:12.21 | perlguru | i have no xeon |
| 19:12.38 | VoodooZ_Work | well, non-AMD64 anyways. |
| 19:12.38 | perlguru | strange |
| 19:13.20 | VoodooZ_Work | They've added quite a few things to the kernel so it's possible the problem might go away by removing stuff in the defconfig file. |
| 19:13.21 | perlguru | bug in slugimage? |
| 19:13.26 | VoodooZ_Work | Might be too! |
| 19:13.39 | VoodooZ_Work | Isn't slugimage a perl file though? |
| 19:14.53 | perlguru | file tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/slugimage |
| 19:14.53 | perlguru | tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/slugimage: perl script text executable |
| 19:15.38 | VoodooZ_Work | Mine reports the error on line 58. maybe you can try putting some debug prints to locate the issue. |
| 19:16.35 | perlguru | the scripts is written by jacques and rwhitby-away |
| 19:16.48 | VoodooZ_Work | yep |
| 19:18.48 | perlguru | | Read 0x00103010 bytes from "vmlinuz" into <Kernel> (9 blocks / 8 blocks) |
| 19:18.48 | perlguru | | Read 0x00033F2C bytes from "switchbox.ext2.gz" into <Ramdisk> (2 blocks / 53 blocks) |
| 19:18.48 | perlguru | | |
| 19:24.27 | perlguru | VoodooZ_Work, how large is the zimage on the xeon? |
| 19:24.58 | VoodooZ_Work | which file is this in again? |
| 19:25.05 | perlguru | zImage-openslug: 1060880 |
| 19:25.20 | VoodooZ_Work | -rw-r--r-- 1 stephane stephane 958732 Feb 28 14:00 zImage-openslug |
| 19:25.21 | perlguru | in tmp/deploy/images |
| 19:25.28 | VoodooZ_Work | no |
| 19:25.41 | VoodooZ_Work | actually, this is a modified kernel so don't use it. |
| 19:26.07 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't have two identical builds to compare. |
| 19:26.15 | perlguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.35 | VoodooZ_Work | -rw-r--r-- 1 stephane stephane 4718592 Feb 28 13:52 openslug-nslu2-20050228144331.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 19:26.36 | VoodooZ_Work | drwxr-xr-x 2 stephane stephane 4096 Feb 28 13:52 slug |
| 19:26.36 | VoodooZ_Work | -rw-r--r-- 1 stephane stephane 1060868 Feb 28 13:49 zImage-openslug |
| 19:26.45 | VoodooZ_Work | (on the opteron box) |
| 19:27.24 | VoodooZ_Work | my zImage is too big. |
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| 19:28.40 | perlguru | mine too |
| 19:28.54 | perlguru | (9 blocks) |
| 19:29.00 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't see where that could be hosed though |
| 19:29.11 | perlguru | ping [g2] |
| 19:29.19 | [g2] | perlguru, pong |
| 19:29.31 | perlguru | have you seen this problem? |
| 19:29.46 | [g2] | I the logs from you guys |
| 19:29.52 | [g2] | In |
| 19:30.17 | perlguru | can this be solved? |
| 19:30.41 | [g2] | your zImage being to large ? |
| 19:30.45 | perlguru | yes |
| 19:30.58 | [g2] | remove a module |
| 19:31.13 | [g2] | or two |
| 19:31.36 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, but it's not that as a stock build is too big. |
| 19:31.55 | VoodooZ_Work | ANd it works for everybody else not using an AMD64 arch. |
| 19:31.59 | [g2] | Only on AMD64 right ? |
| 19:32.05 | perlguru | seems so |
| 19:32.17 | VoodooZ_Work | there's only 2 of us for now. |
| 19:32.44 | VoodooZ_Work | And the perl based slugimage even complains about the size being too big. |
| 19:33.43 | VoodooZ_Work | I guess the first step would be to trace back where the file gets produce and which tool is involved. |
| 19:34.06 | [g2] | There are several things we can do |
| 19:34.08 | perlguru | guessing: the kernel and gcc |
| 19:34.29 | [g2] | 1/ scale back some modules |
| 19:34.48 | [g2] | ext3 and jdb are obvious choices for you guys |
| 19:35.15 | [g2] | I think you can boot with ext2 and then remount after booting and loading the module |
| 19:35.18 | perlguru | i want ext3 because i'll use a hdd |
| 19:35.32 | [g2] | perlguru, I just saying for the initial boot |
| 19:35.37 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, but those are only workarounds. |
| 19:35.43 | perlguru | k |
| 19:36.10 | [g2] | I'm sure there's got to be some other cruft in there that we are not using |
| 19:36.36 | perlguru | like BT |
| 19:36.56 | [g2] | Well there are more BT users than AMD64 users |
| 19:37.23 | perlguru | :) |
| 19:38.08 | [g2] | I don't remember How crazy Redboot is about the size of the kernel. |
| 19:38.24 | perlguru | # USB Host-to-Host Cables |
| 19:38.26 | [g2] | We *may* be able to bump the size of the kernel by 1 block |
| 19:38.30 | [g2] | They work |
| 19:38.35 | perlguru | they are all y |
| 19:39.33 | [g2] | Right, I'd give Host-to-Host (or at least alll the one other than my host-to-host cable) :) |
| 19:40.41 | [g2] | seriously, we probably don't need Host-to-Host support on boot |
| 19:41.56 | perlguru | ok, changed defconfig |
| 19:42.34 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm getting two fresh clones on my xeon and opteron boxes so I can compare file sizes |
| 19:43.24 | chrta | bitbake samba doesn't work, the path to samba 3.0.10 on the server is wrong |
| 19:44.06 | perlguru | chrta, try the #oe channel |
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| 19:44.43 | [g2] | chrta you mean it's not configured properly after the ipkg install ? |
| 19:44.48 | chrta | should i add it to the nslu2 bug-list? |
| 19:45.12 | chrta | no, the download of the sambasources doesn'nt work |
| 19:45.26 | [g2] | that worked fine for me the other day |
| 19:45.30 | chrta | i downloaded it manually now |
| 19:45.59 | chrta | the actual version is 3.0.11 now, so 3.0.10 moved to /oldversion dir |
| 19:46.52 | [g2] | ok report that in #oe that the source location is not correct |
| 19:46.58 | chrta | ok |
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| 20:04.04 | perlguru | mm, my image doesn't seem to get smaller... |
| 20:06.20 | perlguru | CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y ?? |
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| 20:19.27 | ka6sox-away | perlguru: that is very old stuff. |
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| 21:45.06 | [cc]smart | [g2]: Still there ? |
| 21:45.11 | [g2] | yes |
| 21:45.26 | [g2] | [cc]smart, yes |
| 21:45.36 | [cc]smart | Just wanted to go to bed, but then i felt, there is some issue that seems important |
| 21:45.51 | [cc]smart | you mentionned the linksys storage method for configuration |
| 21:46.00 | [cc]smart | that flash area and using it in openslug |
| 21:46.10 | [cc]smart | i think it shouldn't and it should but idfferent way |
| 21:46.20 | [cc]smart | that is, openslug should behave like any other linux distro |
| 21:46.43 | [cc]smart | using that linksys flash configuration magic would interfere with typical filebased configuration |
| 21:46.51 | [cc]smart | which normal linux usage suggests |
| 21:47.19 | [cc]smart | what is good with the separate flashspace is its ability to transfer and keep config across instalations |
| 21:47.26 | [cc]smart | or different versions flashed |
| 21:47.40 | [cc]smart | so what i think would make sense is to have two tools |
| 21:47.51 | [cc]smart | one for storing important configration comonents into flash |
| 21:48.03 | [cc]smart | and one for reading it out and writing it into cinfig files |
| 21:48.09 | [cc]smart | this would |
| 21:48.31 | [cc]smart | - keep scripts unmessed w resp. to fetching data from lnksys flash |
| 21:48.38 | [cc]smart | - allow for transport |
| 21:48.56 | [cc]smart | - each version of OE has just these two scripts- matching its version based configfiles |
| 21:49.18 | [cc]smart | while config flash sticks to same defintions |
| 21:49.31 | [cc]smart | that is to same variable anmes |
| 21:49.37 | [cc]smart | what do you think ? |
| 21:49.54 | [g2] | you bring up many good points... Here are some thoughts |
| 21:50.57 | [g2] | 1/ We need to read the sysconf on first boot which is what we are doing. Otherwise the networking doesn't work and the user is left with a headless access less device (until Redbot puts accessable sw) in |
| 21:51.33 | [g2] | 2/There on reason we can't overwrite the linksys parition and save data there in our own format. |
| 21:51.49 | [g2] | It just that we haven't gotten around to something like that. |
| 21:52.06 | [g2] | Right now, the key data is the MAC addr and network settings. |
| 21:52.52 | [g2] | 3/config files for matching versions don't really apply to OpenSlug |
| 21:53.16 | [cc]smart | do we really need to save that for openslug ? openslug per se isn't interested in "what was there" in a way. so it could just behave like redboot and come up with a pre defined static config. |
| 21:53.21 | [g2] | The first group of users (Day Trippers or Day Trekkers) is reall a binary only crowd |
| 21:53.45 | [cc]smart | i dont understand 3) |
| 21:54.01 | [cc]smart | ah |
| 21:54.04 | [cc]smart | now i think |
| 21:54.06 | ByronT-Away | as such, the need for revert capability for Day Trippers is ?needed? |
| 21:54.27 | [cc]smart | you refer to the transfer suggestion from above |
| 21:54.36 | [cc]smart | that was not meant for going back |
| 21:54.37 | [g2] | ByronT-Away, yes a recovery mechanism could be important |
| 21:55.19 | [g2] | All that required is to dd off the /dev/mtdblock2 and restore it (the sysconfig area) |
| 21:55.24 | [g2] | then reflash the kernel and rootfs |
| 21:55.30 | [cc]smart | if that's wanted, a dump of the config area could be written for later replay into config space |
| 21:55.44 | [cc]smart | yes |
| 21:56.05 | ByronT-Away | I was thinking more of the hd in openslug vs. unslung (or stock f/w) |
| 21:56.08 | [g2] | an actually that is already dd'd off and saved :) in the jffs2 partition :) |
| 21:56.19 | dyoung | sigh |
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| 21:56.52 | ByronT-Away | as for me, I like OpenSlug... "clean slate!" |
| 21:57.03 | ByronT-Away | now for me to eat my vegetables.... |
| 21:57.05 | [g2] | We already have a writeable storage area in the jffs2 or hd/flashstick |
| 21:57.44 | [g2] | just dd'ing back the sysconf (if it got trashed somehow) would allow one to restore |
| 21:58.01 | [cc]smart | yes |
| 21:58.18 | [cc]smart | and it would also free the space for suggested usage :) |
| 21:59.20 | [g2] | for serious camp #4 and #5 it's a custom distro and ppl are doing their own things... giel, billwernet2 siddy-away .... |
| 21:59.22 | [cc]smart | you could go like "saveconfigtoouterspace", reflash your slug, issue "fetchconfigfromouterspace" and ready you aaare |
| 22:00.36 | [cc]smart | what i just fear, is that the scripts will interfere with normal, filebased configuration which theyy could overwrite with whatever they read from configspace... which i'd hate :) |
| 22:00.47 | dyoung | Which is exactly once. |
| 22:00.51 | [g2] | It's 128K for the sysconf partition right now. We've got and extra 1MB in /boot with the bzImage |
| 22:00.53 | [cc]smart | only on primary boot ? |
| 22:01.06 | kergoth | [g2]: the kernel is in the rootfs? why? |
| 22:01.07 | [g2] | Our priority is the bzImage or freeing up the kernel parition |
| 22:01.16 | kergoth | look at how openzaurus does it |
| 22:01.22 | kergoth | the kernel .bb's emit an empty kernel ipk :) |
| 22:01.31 | [g2] | kergoth, I acutally want it there |
| 22:01.42 | [g2] | Then with APEX we'll lose the kernel parition |
| 22:01.49 | [g2] | and pull it straight out of the rootfs |
| 22:01.54 | kergoth | but it wouldnt be there for non-apex users. |
| 22:01.57 | kergoth | i agree, thats optimal |
| 22:02.14 | [g2] | and have 2 rootfs each with their own kernels and modules |
| 22:02.19 | [g2] | full backup |
| 22:02.33 | kergoth | right, having the kernel and modules together just makes sense. |
| 22:02.38 | [g2] | and a failsafe mechanism with the reset button / power button and LEDs |
| 22:03.04 | kergoth | although i could foresee putting kernel+modules in a seperate partition and unioning it over the main one, thereby making it easy to switch kernel+modules without screwing with the rootfs |
| 22:03.08 | kergoth | but thats just a random idea |
| 22:03.22 | [g2] | Good idea |
| 22:03.33 | [g2] | We should probably make udev work first :) |
| 22:03.33 | kergoth | you'd have to dynamically do the sizing, so as to not waste space :) |
| 22:04.13 | [cc]smart | ok, so now i formulated my fears of the day, and so i can go to bed and RIP :) |
| 22:04.17 | [cc]smart | n8 |
| 22:04.29 | [g2] | THX |
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