| 00:00.19 | [1]garpinc | who... Me or rwhitby? |
| 00:00.29 | [1]garpinc | :-) |
| 00:00.43 | ByronT-Work | over here it looked like you asked the second that he left... |
| 00:00.51 | ByronT-Work | after he left |
| 00:01.09 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby-web got a min? |
| 00:01.17 | rwhitby-web | depends what for .... |
| 00:01.17 | ByronT-Work | so you might want to try the "rwhitby-###: PING" method |
| 00:01.39 | [1]garpinc | Did you get mesg about ghostscript? |
| 00:01.59 | rwhitby-web | nope. |
| 00:03.15 | [1]garpinc | I am trying to cross compile ghostscript and to do so part of the instructions say to create an arch.h file and modify it for architecture. I created it but don't know nslu2 architecture good enough to modify the file. |
| 00:03.18 | ByronT-Work | heading home... bbl |
| 00:03.33 | [1]garpinc | I uploaded it to yahoo group. Can you modify it for me? |
| 00:04.33 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby-web: got the message now? |
| 00:06.35 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby-web: ping |
| 00:08.58 | [1]garpinc | gotta go home too... rwhitby-web if you can do it then please repost in in yahoo group under arch.h.nslu2. Otherwise I will catch up when I get home. |
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| 00:44.00 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: ping |
| 00:44.29 | kergoth | rwhitby-web: pong |
| 00:45.23 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: we've got rootfs on external hard disk support working in OpenSlug now, and I'm looking for your advice on a default partition scheme and mount points |
| 00:45.29 | rwhitby-web | here's the background: |
| 00:45.47 | rwhitby-web | 1/ we pivot_root to the external disk, so / is mounted from there. |
| 00:46.24 | rwhitby-web | 2/ we'd like to keep the three-partition stock linksys disk formatting scheme as the default partitioning scheme, to make it easy for people to migrate to openslug without loosing all their mp3's on the disk :-) |
| 00:46.45 | rwhitby-web | (the linksys scheme is sda1 is data, sda2 is system and sda3 is swap) |
| 00:47.08 | rwhitby-web | 3/ We'd like for openslug to install packages by default onto the external disk, rather than the jffs2. |
| 00:48.01 | rwhitby-web | 4/ For the first betas of openslug, we want people to run rootfs from the external disk, rather than jffs2 (unless they know what they are doing). Then recovery is as simple as booting with the disk unplugged and reformatting the disk |
| 00:48.47 | rwhitby-web | 5/ compatibility of installed locations for packages between unslung and openslug would be nice (to save documenting two paths for config files) but not absolutely required |
| 00:49.11 | rwhitby-web | 6/ we want to diverge from the normal openembedded practices as little as possible |
| 00:49.25 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: can you think of any other background points? |
| 00:50.59 | rwhitby-web | we've seen the mount points under /media and /mnt, and they may need extending for large external disk support (e.g. not small flash cards) |
| 00:51.14 | kergoth | in oe, /mnt/*/ is deprecated. |
| 00:51.19 | kergoth | they're just compatibility symlinks |
| 00:51.27 | rwhitby-web | (you could imaging someone having both a flash disk and a large external disk mounted on the slug). |
| 00:51.35 | rwhitby-web | ok, so everything is /media now? |
| 00:52.17 | kergoth | its FHS 2.0 |
| 00:52.21 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.30 | VoodooZ_Home | yeah, i was wondering abut that too. I noticed an error earlier this week about htat |
| 00:52.33 | kergoth | so no subdirs under /mnt/ |
| 00:52.40 | rwhitby-web | my initial thought was to use the linksys paritioning scheme (to allow for easy migration without data loss) and then mount sda2 as / and sda1 as /home and sda3 as swap |
| 00:52.58 | rwhitby-web | other option is to mount sda1 as /opt instead |
| 00:53.17 | rwhitby-web | but then I saw the /media direcory, and figured we needed your counsel on the matter |
| 00:53.58 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, that's pretty much a good summary |
| 00:54.13 | kergoth | my personal recommendation would be to mount it under /media/, and use unionroot to overlay the hd on /, and have ipkg's 'dest' be /media/whatever, and make that dest default. |
| 00:54.35 | kergoth | installs go directly to the real mountpoint, but the files are accessible from normal locations in / via the union |
| 00:56.34 | [g2] | that's sounds very sensible except that we're out of room on the kernel |
| 00:56.51 | [g2] | I don't know how big unionfs is, maybe we could fit it in |
| 00:56.58 | kergoth | its massive. |
| 00:57.09 | kergoth | it used to be one of the biggest kernel modules i've ever seen |
| 00:57.10 | rwhitby-web | ok, we weren't intending on adding unionroot to OpenSlug 1.x, so what would be your non-unionroot recommendation (keeping in mind a transitition to unionfs in the next major release)? |
| 00:57.14 | kergoth | we got it down quite a bit though |
| 00:57.25 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/imagemagick.mk sources/imagemagick/control): imagemagick: depend on bzip2, libtool, do not install libltdl |
| 00:57.38 | [g2] | last check we had like 10K left :( |
| 00:57.41 | kergoth | i'd mount it on /media/ and pivot to it then. |
| 00:57.58 | kergoth | i dont see an advantage of putting it on /opt unless you arent pivoting, and want /opt/bin etc paths to function |
| 00:58.19 | rwhitby-web | oh - we do the pivoting in switchbox, so OE sees the chosen root parition from external disk as / before OE starts |
| 00:58.56 | rwhitby-web | so /dev/sda2 will be mounted as /, and we're deciding what to do with /dev/sda1 .. |
| 00:59.46 | kergoth | ahh gotcha |
| 00:59.55 | rwhitby-web | (/dev/sda2 is prepared by doing a find | cpio from jffs2 to /dev/sda2 when setting up for external disk) |
| 00:59.55 | [g2] | and /dev/sda1 will be mounted as /home in /sda2 |
| 01:00.08 | rwhitby-web | that's one option |
| 01:00.23 | kergoth | thats what i'd do. in fact, thats what we do do in OZ |
| 01:00.28 | kergoth | on pdas with split flash |
| 01:01.09 | kergoth | or mount it under /media/ and bind mount it on /home |
| 01:01.11 | rwhitby-web | I like the idea of /home, cause then someone's public area from when they were using stock firmware will appear as /home/public ... |
| 01:01.44 | rwhitby-web | ah - we could mount under /meda, and then bind mount both /home and /opt from it |
| 01:02.31 | rwhitby-web | question for those folks who use stock firmware features - when you create a new user and give them a share, where does their private disk area end up under /dev/sda1 ? |
| 01:02.37 | kergoth | subdirs of it? /media/sda1/somethingorother /opt? |
| 01:02.46 | rwhitby-web | yeah |
| 01:02.54 | kergoth | thatd work well |
| 01:03.02 | kergoth | the key with this is, you need to do that bind mount in a hotplug script |
| 01:03.06 | kergoth | or udev or whatever |
| 01:03.15 | kergoth | because you dont want the bind mount happening if the hd didnt mount |
| 01:03.27 | rwhitby-web | agreed |
| 01:04.06 | rwhitby-web | can someone with unslung firmware go into the web interface, and create a new user and give them a private share and tell me where that share lives under /share/hdd/data/... ? |
| 01:04.49 | rwhitby-web | I know that the public area is under /share/hdd/data/public, and currently when we unsling to hdd-data the /opt directory lives under /share/hdd/data/opt - so that all works well. |
| 01:05.44 | rwhitby-web | if people stored all their mp3's in a subdir of /share/hdd/data/public, and we mounted /share/hdd/data/public as /home, then they would end up with a /home/mp3s dir on unslung .... |
| 01:06.08 | kergoth | you mean openslug? |
| 01:06.25 | rwhitby-web | (of course /dev/sda1 would be mounted under /media/sda1 or /media/hdd or something in openslug, rather than /share/hdd/data in unslung) |
| 01:07.08 | rwhitby-web | so /opt would be a bind mount to /media/hdd/opt and /home would be a bind mount to /media/hdd/public, or maybe just /media/hdd ... |
| 01:07.17 | kergoth | yeah |
| 01:07.38 | rwhitby-web | (depending on where private shares end up in unslung, so that they could be carried across as normal home directories in openslug) |
| 01:08.16 | rwhitby-web | Come-on people - no-one has a Linksys web interface where they can create a user with a private share and tell me where the share is placed on disk? |
| 01:09.45 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: should we have packages install under /opt like in unslung, or should we use the ipkg-link functionality in oe? |
| 01:10.28 | rwhitby-web | and have different dests for jffs2 and hdd ? |
| 01:11.15 | kergoth | well, the advantage of ipkg-link is that the ipk doesnt have to change based on dest. |
| 01:11.20 | kergoth | the paths remain the same |
| 01:11.36 | kergoth | which is really quite nice. |
| 01:12.51 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: yeah - will that remain the recommended practise in the light of unionfs? |
| 01:13.05 | rwhitby-web | s/practise/practice/ |
| 01:15.00 | rwhitby-web | i.e. will the dest stuff be deprecated by unionfs? |
| 01:15.21 | kergoth | yes |
| 01:15.24 | kergoth | it will |
| 01:15.28 | kergoth | by what i described earlier |
| 01:15.31 | kergoth | you'll still use ipkg dests |
| 01:15.35 | kergoth | but unionfs will replace ipkg-link'ing |
| 01:17.10 | [g2] | for the initial beta release I was thinking of creating the dest dir on the hd/flash stick that's "Opensling'ed" and *not* having it on the jffs2 partition |
| 01:17.24 | [g2] | that way by default nobody can install to the jffs2 partition |
| 01:17.25 | kergoth | isnt that what rwhitby-web just said? |
| 01:17.36 | kergoth | he said switchbox would pivot to the hd |
| 01:17.41 | rwhitby-web | ok, so we should design our layout based on a default dest of hdd for openslug, but with people being able to repoint that to jffs2 |
| 01:18.09 | rwhitby-web | we can mount the jffs2 under /media/jffs2, and install packages there :-) |
| 01:18.28 | [g2] | kergoth switchbox pivots based on what's in /.xxxxx of the jffs2 partition |
| 01:18.49 | rwhitby-web | but seriously, the default dest will just be / and where that ends up will depend upon whether you're booting from jffs2 or hdd |
| 01:19.04 | rwhitby-web | then we will have hdd and jffs2 dests where you can override the default one |
| 01:19.29 | rwhitby-web | so if you're booted to jffs2, you can install to hdd, and if you're booted to hdd, you can install to jffs2 |
| 01:19.40 | rwhitby-web | that might even come in handy for os upgrades ... |
| 01:20.03 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, the install to jffs2 is what I'm trying to avoid in the first beta |
| 01:20.19 | rwhitby-web | right - you will have to know what you are doing to know how to do that |
| 01:20.43 | rwhitby-web | (assuming you've pivoted to hdd already) |
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| 01:21.23 | [g2] | right. It think we boot to jffs2 and manually allow the user to change root to the hd / flash stick via the opensling |
| 01:21.38 | rwhitby-web | there's not a single person in this channel who can bring up a linksys web interface and create a new user with a private share and tell me where the directory ends up ????? |
| 01:21.58 | jp30 | rwhitby-web, i can in a couple of hours if you can wait |
| 01:22.16 | [g2] | I only run linksys to reflash Openslug :) |
| 01:22.19 | jp30 | ... no access to my slug's web interface from here |
| 01:22.22 | dyoung-web | iirc, /share/hdd/data/dyoung |
| 01:22.52 | Tiersten | if you give me a few minutes I can plug my stock nslu2 in |
| 01:22.56 | rwhitby-web | ~praise Tiersten |
| 01:22.58 | jbot | All hail Tiersten! |
| 01:23.04 | rwhitby-web | ~praise dyoung |
| 01:23.06 | jbot | All hail dyoung! |
| 01:23.19 | dyoung-web | Yeah, /share/hdd/data/dyoung; but the uid/gid is admin:everyone |
| 01:23.20 | rwhitby-web | if it is as dyoung recalls, then we will mount sda1 as /home |
| 01:23.37 | dyoung-web | so thats kind of a pita. |
| 01:24.00 | [g2] | Ok I think we may want to forgore that compatibility |
| 01:24.16 | rwhitby-web | is it readable/writeable for groupu everyone? |
| 01:24.21 | [g2] | and start using the normal user layout |
| 01:24.24 | dyoung-web | its 775 |
| 01:24.55 | rwhitby-web | ah - so we can just map the gid of everyone from unslung to a corresponding group on openslug |
| 01:25.40 | rwhitby-web | anyway, as long as it is readable to all, then people can chmod -R it after they migrate |
| 01:25.55 | rwhitby-web | and chown -R it |
| 01:26.05 | dyoung-web | okay, I'm not sure if I created that as a private share. |
| 01:26.19 | dyoung-web | so maybe tiersten should double check. |
| 01:26.21 | rwhitby-web | ok, let's see what a private share does before we make a decision |
| 01:26.37 | dyoung-web | or wait for another volunteer. |
| 01:26.39 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: is /media/hdd a good name for the external disk mount point? |
| 01:26.46 | dyoung-web | back later food. |
| 01:26.51 | rwhitby-web | or /media/sda1 ? |
| 01:27.22 | rwhitby-web | cause I think /media/card and /media/cf don't make as much sense for openslug ... |
| 01:27.46 | Tiersten | yeah. confirmed what dyoung said |
| 01:27.51 | kergoth | hdd sounds fine to me |
| 01:28.03 | Tiersten | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.14 | Tiersten | the directory is owned by admin.everyone |
| 01:28.57 | Tiersten | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.54 | [g2] | we should pick a couple high profile target apps like what ? samba, nfs, and see how they'd transfter from Unslung to OpenSlug with different versions of the sw. |
| 01:30.15 | rwhitby-web | mt-daapd :-) |
| 01:30.22 | rwhitby-web | hit the buzbee article apps |
| 01:30.32 | rwhitby-web | then he can write the migration to openslug article |
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| 01:30.44 | [g2] | those would be good choices for the uses |
| 01:31.03 | rwhitby-web | all the developer packages are already there in OE |
| 01:31.06 | kergoth | transfer? |
| 01:31.09 | kergoth | oe already has samba |
| 01:31.13 | kergoth | i dont get what you're trying to do |
| 01:31.38 | rwhitby-web | I think g2 means add any missing apps to OE if they are not there already. |
| 01:31.48 | rwhitby-web | and yes, samba, nfs, etc are there already |
| 01:31.54 | [g2] | I mean samba in OE is 3.10 |
| 01:32.02 | [g2] | what version is Unslung running ? |
| 01:32.07 | kergoth | "udevstart is about 30% faster with all these changes now. |
| 01:32.08 | kergoth | " |
| 01:32.13 | kergoth | </quote from kai on linux-hotplug-devel> |
| 01:32.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:32.58 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: since we're not carrying any user interface over, then we don't need to support migration of samba configs, etc. |
| 01:33.13 | rwhitby-web | just let them start from scratch with swat or webmin in openslug |
| 01:33.28 | rwhitby-web | or emacs :-) |
| 01:33.42 | kergoth | yeah, i dont get the purpose of this 'transfer' that keeps being alluded to |
| 01:33.47 | kergoth | if a package isnt in oe, add it to oe |
| 01:33.49 | [g2] | Ok then we shouldn't be setting up partitions based on the old layout |
| 01:33.52 | kergoth | its that simple |
| 01:34.09 | kergoth | the user being able to get to their old data if they want to is a good thing |
| 01:34.16 | kergoth | tryingi to use that data automatically in openslug is not |
| 01:34.17 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: why not - we want the data to be migrated, but not the outdated app configs |
| 01:34.19 | kergoth | since compatibility isnt guaranteed |
| 01:34.25 | kergoth | yeah |
| 01:34.35 | [g2] | exactly what kergoth said |
| 01:34.35 | kergoth | data good, rootfs/appconfig bad |
| 01:34.46 | rwhitby-web | exactly |
| 01:35.24 | rwhitby-web | Assume that a user is actually using the slug as intended by Linksys, and has loaded up a disk with data,neatly organised by user in shares. |
| 01:35.42 | rwhitby-web | take that disk, and put openslug in the conf partition. |
| 01:35.49 | [g2] | so being that they are root have total control over the devices I fail to understand how it might be hard to get their data |
| 01:36.08 | kergoth | eh? |
| 01:36.11 | kergoth | no one said it was hard |
| 01:36.21 | rwhitby-web | yep, just look in /home/username |
| 01:36.33 | rwhitby-web | (where you'd expect it to be) |
| 01:36.46 | rwhitby-web | and /home/public is where all your old public share data was |
| 01:37.07 | rwhitby-web | could even have a default openslug samba config which shared /home/public .... |
| 01:38.09 | [g2] | Ok, I think I'm giving up on the migration strategy and siding with kergoth |
| 01:38.30 | [g2] | meaning, bb app, ipkg install app, and migrate data to said app |
| 01:38.44 | rwhitby-web | yep - that's my position too |
| 01:38.55 | rwhitby-web | and if app is in unslung but missing from oe, then we add it to oe |
| 01:38.58 | kergoth | with openslug, i think we need to keep focused on doing the right thing, at least within reason. |
| 01:39.05 | rwhitby-web | fully agree |
| 01:39.06 | kergoth | there's no reason for hacks there, since compatibility isnt an issue |
| 01:39.13 | rwhitby-web | fully agree |
| 01:39.23 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:39.43 | kergoth | has someone made a list of things that need adding to oe yet? |
| 01:39.43 | rwhitby-web | and when there is a default choice to be made (like the default disk partitioning) we do compatibility if it is clean |
| 01:39.55 | kergoth | rwhitby-web: right |
| 01:40.05 | rwhitby-web | from what I've seen here, we have a clean data migration strategy |
| 01:40.19 | [g2] | ok and the user must install to hd or flashstick initially for the first Beta and then we can focus on getting boatloads of packages in there and not worry about size very much |
| 01:40.28 | rwhitby-web | correct |
| 01:41.14 | rwhitby-web | but that's a doco thing. if our power users choose not to switch rootfs to hdd, everything will still work properly for them out of jffs2 |
| 01:41.16 | [g2] | so the only thing we need to worry about is /swap |
| 01:41.28 | rwhitby-web | that's easy - sda3 is swap |
| 01:41.47 | rwhitby-web | default size is what linksys formats to |
| 01:41.47 | [g2] | actually I think the user can config swap and root |
| 01:42.34 | rwhitby-web | yes, but we need to give a default config for camp#2 people so they don't have to think about disk partitioning |
| 01:43.14 | rwhitby-web | and have the opensling script create that partioning if the user has not previously partitioned the disk |
| 01:43.15 | [g2] | right. the question is whether is a doco thing or that's the default working version of the sw. |
| 01:44.10 | kergoth | always remember. users dont usually actually _read_ doco :P |
| 01:44.10 | [g2] | Ok .... I'm gonna toss a big ring out here |
| 01:44.15 | rwhitby-web | I propose that the sda1:/home, sda2:/, sda3:swap partition scheme be the default scheme that opensling creates, but that openslug works with any scheme and mounts the disks based on labels |
| 01:45.06 | [g2] | I propose we might want to make the sda1 be everything and leave sda2 untouched and sda3 is swap |
| 01:45.35 | [g2] | if sda2 becomes root, then the users can *never* go back to unslung or linksys |
| 01:45.38 | rwhitby-web | that introduces maintenance problems, cause you're mixing rootfs and user data |
| 01:46.04 | kergoth | a rootfs vs user split is a very useful thing. you can wipe the rootfs and start fresh on the OS without losing your data |
| 01:46.12 | rwhitby-web | exactly |
| 01:46.45 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: we can update the unsling script to be able to migrate an openslug disk back to unslung |
| 01:47.03 | [g2] | Well if we are wiping out backward compatibility, then a simple script can move the data around to the right spot |
| 01:47.28 | rwhitby-web | we are not doing backward compatibility - we are doing data migrating into openslug |
| 01:47.41 | rwhitby-web | I don't want to support going from openslug back to anything else |
| 01:47.57 | rwhitby-web | I do want to support seamless migration of data from anything else into openslug |
| 01:48.31 | rwhitby-web | anything over and above those two premises is icing on the cake |
| 01:48.40 | [g2] | We'll I'm missing the point on the data migration to OpenSlug |
| 01:49.05 | rwhitby-web | you don't have an unslung disk with 100Gb of mp3's on it .... |
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| 01:49.16 | [g2] | let's pretend I do |
| 01:49.43 | rwhitby-web | yep, so you flash openslug, and run opensling, and your mp3's magically appear under /home/public |
| 01:49.43 | [g2] | and there are shared via samba ? |
| 01:50.38 | rwhitby-web | does that matter? once they are under /home/<user> then you can do lots of things with them, including having samba share them by default |
| 01:50.55 | ByronT | oooh... this sounds like a user type discussion (I'm well qualified) |
| 01:51.07 | [g2] | ByronT, jump on in |
| 01:51.13 | rwhitby-web | I would propose that our default openslug samba config *does* automatically share /home/public |
| 01:51.49 | [g2] | let's prented it didn't and we needed that |
| 01:52.10 | kergoth | hrm |
| 01:52.18 | [g2] | mout -o bind /mnt/inthewoods /home/public |
| 01:52.19 | kergoth | ?= only works if unset, not if set to "" |
| 01:52.19 | ByronT | for one thing, at least make samba stick to pre-defined defaults |
| 01:52.19 | rwhitby-web | so in the scenario stated, you flash openslug, run opensling, ipkg install samba, and you're MP3s are shared by samba as they were before .... |
| 01:52.22 | [g2] | mount -o bind /mnt/inthewoods /home/public |
| 01:53.14 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: don't follow your point |
| 01:53.50 | [g2] | my point is that from anywhere that data can be mapped to /home/public |
| 01:53.57 | rwhitby-web | what is it about data migration from disks that were previously used with stock or unslung firmware, to becoming available under /home ? |
| 01:54.33 | rwhitby-web | yes, I agree. I still don't understand your point or objection ? |
| 01:54.35 | ByronT | I don't know, from the doco point of view, I believe that there is going to be a need for a migration doc |
| 01:54.44 | ByronT | for unslung to openslug |
| 01:54.45 | [g2] | it's a flexibility issue. |
| 01:55.13 | ByronT | such that openslug is more of a linux distro rather than stuck with unslung hangovers |
| 01:55.14 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: we're discussing a default config here, not a restriction on flexibility |
| 01:55.34 | rwhitby-web | most linux distros suggest that you mount /home from a different partition to / |
| 01:55.38 | [g2] | If look at the linksys data and figure out where it needs to get mapped, we can just tweak the install scripts for OpenSlug to map from whereever to what's needed |
| 01:56.03 | rwhitby-web | I thought that's exactly what we are doing and have solved? |
| 01:56.12 | kergoth | g2 seems to be advocating that "migration" is just bind mounts, not actual movement or rearranging of content |
| 01:56.18 | [g2] | I'm suggesting that we may want to mount sda1 as /mnt/media/home |
| 01:57.40 | rwhitby-web | since sda2 will be mounted as /, and sda1 will be mounted as /media/hdd, and also bind mounted to /home, what is the question/issue? |
| 01:58.33 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: ? |
| 01:58.33 | [g2] | I was saying the opposite sda2 is /, sda1 is /home |
| 01:58.54 | rwhitby-web | um, isn't that what I just wrote? |
| 01:59.18 | ByronT | heh |
| 01:59.18 | rwhitby-web | "sda2 is /, sda1 is /home", "sda2 will be mounted as /, and sda1 will be mounted as /media/hdd, and also bind mounted to /home" |
| 01:59.19 | [g2] | no you wrote sda1 as /media/hdd |
| 01:59.39 | rwhitby-web | and also bind mounted to /home |
| 02:00.08 | kergoth | the advantage is that sda1 is always in a known path in /media, even if the user chooses to kill the bind mount and do something else |
| 02:00.13 | kergoth | as i see it. |
| 02:00.26 | rwhitby-web | cause kergoth suggested that oe practice is to mount under /media and have the hotplug script do the bind mount, so that /home doesn't point to nowhere if the disk is not mounted |
| 02:01.07 | rwhitby-web | but in this case that point is moot, cause if / is mounted from sda2, then you can be pretty sure that sda1 is also mounted |
| 02:01.20 | rwhitby-web | (since they are on the same physical disk) |
| 02:02.01 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: can you please explain your question/issue - I'm just not getting it at all .... |
| 02:02.13 | ByronT | so is the question to me more of what should default smb ipkg share be like |
| 02:02.28 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, I think we are pretty much in agreement |
| 02:02.36 | [g2] | sda2 is / |
| 02:02.59 | [g2] | sda1 is /media/hdd |
| 02:03.09 | rwhitby-web | yep, yep |
| 02:03.21 | [g2] | we bind mount /media/hdd to /home |
| 02:03.30 | dyoung-web | so what was the last 30mins about? |
| 02:03.41 | dyoung-web | (been out to blunch) |
| 02:04.01 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: it was about 30 mins too long :-) |
| 02:04.19 | ByronT | they agreed to agree |
| 02:04.25 | dyoung-web | okay cool. |
| 02:04.32 | dyoung-web | Whys it called opensling? |
| 02:04.34 | rwhitby-web | I think we're all in violent agreement |
| 02:04.47 | rwhitby-web | openslug version of unsling - got a better verb ? |
| 02:04.50 | dyoung-web | for name compatibility? |
| 02:05.08 | dyoung-web | beats "openslug_migrate" I guess. |
| 02:05.28 | ByronT | unopen? |
| 02:05.39 | rwhitby-web | actually it would be called "openslug_external_rootfs_prep_and_copy" |
| 02:05.43 | [g2] | because with out unslung worries it'd be called setup |
| 02:06.04 | rwhitby-web | setup.exe? |
| 02:06.23 | dyoung-web | Must... Resist.... |
| 02:06.40 | dyoung-web | Urge...... |
| 02:06.41 | [g2] | ok so lets start migrating packages |
| 02:06.51 | rwhitby-web | ok, so we have a plan. |
| 02:06.57 | ByronT | heck no! that would encourage the newbies who have no business trying openslug to just click and go |
| 02:07.07 | dyoung-web | Okay cool. |
| 02:07.16 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: I think we should use the term "add missing packages to oe" rather than "migrating packages" |
| 02:07.18 | dyoung-web | With any luck I'll have the remaining nfsroot bits worked out this evening. |
| 02:07.42 | rwhitby-web | cause we're only migrating data, not packages |
| 02:07.50 | ByronT | so this means I should have a *good* openslug binary for doco prep this weekend? |
| 02:07.58 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, php gcc are in OE, but don't work like the unslung version |
| 02:07.59 | dyoung-web | is mt-daapd a oe package yet? |
| 02:08.08 | rwhitby-web | we're providing the latest version of the same packages with a clean configuration in openslug, not migrating from unslung. |
| 02:08.09 | ByronT | and I can be in the first 20 still... |
| 02:08.44 | rwhitby-web | I don't think we want openslug packages to work like unslung ones ... we want them to work like normal linux packages. |
| 02:09.01 | [g2] | Ok I'm *all* for that |
| 02:09.15 | ByronT | nods |
| 02:09.35 | [g2] | do we want users to have step-by-step instructions to get said apps working ? |
| 02:09.42 | dyoung-web | Doesnt look like mt-daapd is there yet. |
| 02:09.49 | rwhitby-web | cool. as part of the clean configuration, we may decide to have a default (but not imposed) setting which picks up the migrated *data* automatically, but we should stop at that. |
| 02:09.55 | [g2] | what version of samba is linksys running ? |
| 02:10.04 | ByronT | 2.x something |
| 02:10.15 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: said instructions should come with the packages, since we are standard linux in openslug |
| 02:10.28 | dyoung-web | [g2], instructions should be something like 1) ipkg update 2) ipkg install package 3) configure your personal preferences if applicable |
| 02:11.12 | ByronT | 4) home website of package |
| 02:11.12 | [g2] | Ok so there's no real migration |
| 02:11.21 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: yeah, and 4) if you get stuck, consult the net for the standard doco and help forums for that software application, don't come asking us. We just packaged it. |
| 02:11.34 | dyoung-web | Right. |
| 02:11.42 | rwhitby-web | no migration of apps, some migration of data (where it can be done cleanly) |
| 02:11.53 | dyoung-web | Yeah, this is a good plan. |
| 02:12.04 | rwhitby-web | openslug must remain pristine and hack-free |
| 02:12.22 | rwhitby-web | we've even gotten rid of the real-root-dev hack in switchbox, so we're good there now too |
| 02:12.31 | ByronT | excepting dyoung's hacks? |
| 02:13.00 | dyoung-web | gone is /dev/slug too. that o ne was pretty bad... |
| 02:13.06 | rwhitby-web | yep |
| 02:13.18 | kergoth | [g2]: the biggest advantage of using a bind mount for sda1 is flexibility. i can easily then change the bind mount to use a subdir of the partition instead of the partition itself, and the original content is always available. |
| 02:13.47 | kergoth | note that when you switch to unionfs, we need _every_ component of the union to have its original content mounted somewhere safe and independent from the union (aka, somewhere in /media) |
| 02:13.58 | rwhitby-web | ok, I think we're good to go. any objections? |
| 02:14.12 | rwhitby-web | show of hands? |
| 02:14.18 | [g2] | here |
| 02:14.18 | dyoung-web | none here |
| 02:14.31 | [g2] | here as in good to go |
| 02:14.37 | rwhitby-web | capcom? flight? medical? go for launch? |
| 02:14.39 | ByronT | do I count? |
| 02:14.43 | rwhitby-web | sure do |
| 02:14.45 | [g2] | We are saying OpenSlug is just a normal OE distro |
| 02:14.52 | dyoung-web | [g2] nod |
| 02:15.00 | ByronT | no probs here |
| 02:15.02 | dyoung-web | as it should be. |
| 02:15.25 | dyoung-web | I cant wait! |
| 02:15.29 | [g2] | Ok so we've just go to get cracking |
| 02:15.30 | kergoth | [g2]: thats the idea. OE distros tend to do the "right thing". few hacks. and it leverages the rest of hte oe community, due to the small # of deviations. |
| 02:15.31 | rwhitby-web | yep, with a default partition scheme which happens to be the same as Unslung, but is not restricted to be so. |
| 02:15.32 | ByronT | <- is excited |
| 02:15.59 | [g2] | Ok so here's a big one also. |
| 02:16.11 | ByronT | FrankenSlug is getting all warm inside... |
| 02:16.23 | [g2] | Let's stop talking about OpenSlug in here and move the discussion to OE |
| 02:16.25 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: we need to release an Unslung 4.x beta with nfsswitch.conf in it ... |
| 02:16.39 | kergoth | [g2]: yes, i agree with that wholeheartedly (and always recommended that..) |
| 02:16.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:17.40 | kergoth | i should use my slug more often |
| 02:17.45 | kergoth | need to find a good use for it |
| 02:18.18 | dyoung-web | rwhitby-web: as in do away with .nfsroot and use /mnt/jffs2/etc/nfsswitch.conf instead? |
| 02:18.22 | kergoth | hmm, food. good idea |
| 02:18.47 | dyoung-web | thats probably a better idea since the file contents are used. |
| 02:19.02 | rwhitby-lunch | dyoung-web: no, referring to the bug reports on unslung which say that we need to add a standard /etc/nsswitch.conf (or whatever it's called) file |
| 02:19.10 | rwhitby-lunch | nothing to do with switchbox |
| 02:19.13 | dyoung-web | of, you said nfsswitch. |
| 02:19.14 | dyoung-web | heh |
| 02:19.25 | dyoung-web | okay |
| 02:19.26 | dyoung-web | cool |
| 02:19.27 | rwhitby-lunch | sorry - my bad :-) |
| 02:19.52 | rwhitby-lunch | we do need to change the nfsroot stuff to use the drivers from jffs2 and work for unslung and openslug .... |
| 02:20.17 | rwhitby-lunch | we may even decide to dump payload altogether ... |
| 02:20.39 | ByronT | rwhitby-lunch, check pm |
| 02:24.25 | dyoung-web | yeah, I was in the middle making all that nfsstuff work. |
| 02:24.41 | rwhitby-lunch | cool |
| 02:25.01 | rwhitby-lunch | back later ... |
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| 02:26.06 | [g2] | thx all |
| 02:26.32 | ByronT | there's a dyoung special openslug binary??! |
| 02:27.33 | dyoung-web | eh? |
| 02:27.55 | ByronT | openslug yahoo table |
| 02:28.27 | ByronT | bbl - wife wants help with boy |
| 02:31.24 | [g2] | dyoung, did beewoolie-away run APEX ? |
| 02:31.25 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/sources/apache/rc.apache: openldap: don't stage libtool archives (.la); apache, apr-util: ldap support, fixup nsswitch.conf if it is broken |
| 02:31.36 | dyoung-web | oh that. ka6sox needed openslug in a hurry to demo at the socal linux expo. |
| 02:31.59 | dyoung-web | He was hesitant to flash it. |
| 02:32.06 | dyoung-web | hes been running it from ram though |
| 02:32.47 | dyoung-web | [g2]: have you fiddled with 1.1.1 yet? |
| 02:33.13 | [g2] | no, APEX 1.1.1 ? |
| 02:33.21 | dyoung-web | Yeah, |
| 02:33.37 | [g2] | see you in #openJTAG |
| 02:33.51 | dyoung-web | I wonder if I can get there from here.... |
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| 03:08.21 | ka6sox-web | dyoung-web: ping |
| 03:08.50 | ByronT | he might be paying more attention in #openJTAG |
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| 03:09.53 | dyoung-web | pong |
| 03:10.23 | ka6sox-web | did you get mail? |
| 03:13.01 | dyoung-web | today? |
| 03:13.08 | ka6sox-web | 3am |
| 03:13.19 | ka6sox-web | and there should be some from 9am too |
| 03:20.32 | dyoung-web | I got the ones from lastnight., |
| 03:21.33 | dyoung-web | nothing today. |
| 03:24.17 | ka6sox-web | hmmm....let me get back into the machine and send it again. |
| 03:24.25 | ka6sox-web | could you open them? |
| 03:24.38 | dyoung-web | Yes |
| 03:24.50 | dyoung-web | though I really wish I had pcb working on the mini. |
| 03:25.03 | ka6sox-web | oh....doesn't work? |
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| 03:29.09 | dyoung-web | not directly on the mini. Gotta ssh elsewhere. |
| 03:29.25 | ka6sox-web | ugh |
| 04:14.01 | cbpage | wouldn't a mini running debian run pcb, tho? |
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| 04:16.42 | dyoung-web | Probably. |
| 04:18.17 | ka6sox-web | cbpage, he still is runnin OSX |
| 04:18.34 | ka6sox-web | and I use 2 Apples running Debian with PCB. |
| 04:20.45 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote perl-dbi, cyrus-imapd |
| 04:30.07 | dyoung-web | is there a openslug feed yet? |
| 04:30.30 | ka6sox | dyoung-web: we need to start one. |
| 04:30.43 | ka6sox | there is an unslung-oe feed currently |
| 04:30.44 | dyoung-web | Okay. |
| 04:31.26 | [g2] | and that should probably generate the OpenSlug Beta Binary |
| 04:32.06 | dyoung-web | Feed me! |
| 04:32.27 | dyoung-web | I guess we should probably put the proper ipkg config to look for that feed too eh? |
| 04:32.34 | ka6sox | yes! |
| 04:32.54 | dyoung-web | wheres the unslung-oe feed? |
| 04:35.47 | dyoung-web | nevermind answer that later, I'll use my private one for now. |
| 04:45.34 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/openldap.mk: openldap: do not stage server or clients, just libraries |
| 04:52.26 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/openldap.mk: openldap: unbork previous commit |
| 05:08.04 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote gtk, vte |
| 05:17.11 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/xvid.mk: xvid: synchronize makefile version number with control file |
| 05:45.48 | ByronT | good night |
| 06:01.01 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/ (10 files): cosmetic changes to some pre-template.mk makefiles |
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| 07:07.04 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/apache.mk: make apache require upgraded apr-util |
| 07:09.07 | garpinc | jp30 I'm about to check in cvs based transcode. |
| 07:10.16 | jp30 | hi, garpinc, sounds good. |
| 07:10.40 | garpinc | also jp30 can you help me with ghostscript... |
| 07:11.03 | garpinc | To crosscompile it requires proper values to be in arch.h |
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| 07:11.11 | jp30 | well, i could take a look... from what you were saying to rwhitby, it sounds hard |
| 07:11.21 | dyoung | hi rwhitby-web |
| 07:11.23 | garpinc | I uploaded it to yahoo groups. I don't know proper settings. |
| 07:11.33 | dyoung | nfsroot is workable. I had user error. |
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| 07:13.54 | jp30 | garpinc, i haven't used yahoo except for the mailing list... looking now... |
| 07:14.23 | garpinc | it's in files section. |
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| 07:15.52 | dyoung | compile genarch.c native to generate the file? |
| 07:16.31 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/transcode.mk: cvs based transcode |
| 07:17.06 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: so no changes to switchbox? |
| 07:17.06 | garpinc | I don't have native compile env. Can someone else do that and send it to me? |
| 07:17.27 | garpinc | jp30 transcode should be all set. |
| 07:18.03 | rwhitby-web | garpinc: did you add it to the READY_FOR_TESTING target? |
| 07:18.13 | jp30 | garpinc, you need at least ARCH_IS_BIG_ENDIAN 1; some of those other things are very murky, best to take dyoung's advice |
| 07:18.49 | dyoung | no changes, but I'm about to obliterate the payload dependancy for nfsroot but leave it for recovery. |
| 07:19.03 | rwhitby-web | right. |
| 07:19.23 | rwhitby-web | can we do the network and nfs stuff the same for unslung and openslug? |
| 07:19.32 | dyoung | do you have a pending switchbox changes? |
| 07:19.46 | dyoung | We should be able to; I was about to test it with openslug right now. |
| 07:20.10 | garpinc | jp30 do you have native compile env? |
| 07:21.16 | rwhitby-web | I have no pending switchbox changes, so you go ahead and release a new version with nfs payload obliterated when it's ready. |
| 07:21.45 | dyoung | okay gonna test the method with openslug first then. |
| 07:21.59 | rwhitby-web | cool |
| 07:22.03 | rwhitby-web | later ... |
| 07:22.04 | jp30 | garpinc, sure do... have you set up ghostscript in cvs? |
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| 07:22.40 | garpinc | not yet. |
| 07:23.59 | CIA-1 | 03jcoalson * 10unslung/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add new "flac" package |
| 07:24.29 | jp30 | garpinc, why don't you get it in, then i (or some other dev) can start building it native to get the arch.h file for you |
| 07:24.53 | garpinc | I was reading cross compile instructions and they said that was the first step to do a make obj/arch.h and then edit it. I suppose you would do something entirely different for native. I could check in what I have. All it does right now is get the source. |
| 07:26.00 | jp30 | well, check it in and let's take a look. |
| 07:26.21 | garpinc | hang on a sec... |
| 07:27.47 | CIA-1 | 03jcoalson * 10unslung/Makefile: add new "flac" package |
| 07:29.51 | jp30 | garpinc, still having trouble with transcode: aclocal: configure.in: 26: macro `AM_PROG_AS' not found in library |
| 07:35.01 | garpinc | I now the answer to that one. |
| 07:35.14 | garpinc | automake1.8 needs to installed. |
| 07:35.50 | garpinc | I use colinux and automake1.4 was installed. I haad to remove that and apt-get install automake1.8 |
| 07:37.04 | jp30 | garpinc, you need to give an explicit version to aclocal and automake. on the official build machines "automake" is automake 1.4. we all have 1.9 but the binaries are called aclocal-1.9 and automake-1.9. look at how the x11 .mks do this |
| 07:37.23 | jp30 | automake 1.9 shoudl be backwards compat with 1.8 |
| 07:37.41 | jp30 | s/all/also/ |
| 07:38.43 | garpinc | hmm but I don't call it explicitly I call autoreconf -i -f |
| 07:39.07 | jp30 | autoreconf will use the values of ACLOCAL and AUTOMAKE envs |
| 07:41.41 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/ (make/ghostscript.mk sources/ghostscript/control): So far uncompilable ghostscript |
| 07:44.08 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/transcode.mk: added env variables for automake |
| 07:44.22 | garpinc | jp30 all set on both counts... |
| 07:47.14 | jp30 | garpinc, what time is it where you are? |
| 07:49.51 | jp30 | ...it's nearly midnight here... |
| 07:50.21 | garpinc | 2:49.... I know... I know.. I should get to sleep.... |
| 07:50.53 | garpinc | am.... |
| 07:51.27 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/sources/ghostscript/arch.h: ghostscript: added arch.h for cross-compilation |
| 07:51.53 | jp30 | thought so, you made a 2am kind of typo with transcode... don't worry, i will fix it up |
| 07:53.09 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/transcode.mk: transcode: pass explicit version to automake |
| 07:54.43 | jp30 | and i've checked in the arch.h you need to sources/ghostscript/arch.h |
| 07:55.15 | garpinc | Ok thanks... |
| 07:56.53 | jp30 | now i am going to get some sleep, will check if transcode worked tomorrow |
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| 08:00.20 | dyoung | [g2] |
| 08:00.37 | dyoung | [g2], I know you read the logs so this is for later. |
| 08:01.00 | dyoung | the cpio you found in /bin is the busybox one and probably should be unconfiugred in favor of the full cpio in /usr/bin . |
| 08:01.28 | dyoung | Also, I would like to add nfs mount to busybox |
| 08:01.41 | dyoung | Or if its there I aint lickin it right. |
| 08:17.56 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote flac and transcode |
| 08:18.47 | garpinc | cool... I'm making lots of progress on ghostscript... See you tommorow. |
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| 08:30.28 | jp30 | garpinc, still awake? |
| 08:34.15 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote flac and transcode - take 2 |
| 08:37.21 | jp30 | garpinc, if you see this: i've promoted transcode, but can you try to keep the version number shown in the .mk file (<FOO>_VERSION) matching the version number in the control file; x.y.z+cvsyyyymmdd is a good style for version numbers of cvs snapshots (that is how OE does it); again, c.f. x11 for an example |
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| 08:52.33 | perlguru-work | morning |
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| 10:00.59 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2863 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (openslug-kernel_2.6.9.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.9/defconfig): Added bluetooth support (modules) to OpenSlug |
| 10:04.44 | dyoung | So switchbox works with both unslung and openslug loading the modules as discussed. |
| 10:08.19 | rwhitby | checked in? |
| 10:08.27 | dyoung | not yet. Finishing. |
| 10:08.52 | dyoung | I got distracted earlier making mt-daapd_0.2.1.1.bb |
| 10:10.53 | rwhitby | cool |
| 10:11.13 | rwhitby | I'm gonna get my bluetooth working tonight ... |
| 10:11.50 | dyoung | does openslug have a specific defconfig for busybox? |
| 10:12.11 | rwhitby | yep |
| 10:12.22 | dyoung | wheres it live? |
| 10:12.39 | rwhitby | busybox/busybox-1.00/openslug/defconfig |
| 10:12.54 | dyoung | ah crap |
| 10:12.55 | rwhitby | gonna remove cpio and find? |
| 10:13.01 | dyoung | I didnt even see that directory |
| 10:13.04 | dyoung | I was thinking about it |
| 10:13.10 | rwhitby | i'd say yes |
| 10:13.11 | dyoung | and seeing if nfsmount was in there |
| 10:13.21 | rwhitby | yep it is |
| 10:13.40 | rwhitby | I added it everywhere when we did the nfs stuff before |
| 10:14.00 | dyoung | turns out NFS stuff is modules in openslug |
| 10:14.31 | rwhitby | we can do the same in unslung if it makes it easier for switchbox ... |
| 10:14.37 | dyoung | so we need to have it in the rootfs so we can insmod them in order to mount the nfsroot to pivot to. |
| 10:14.54 | rwhitby | yep |
| 10:15.09 | dyoung | so ignoring that; the rest of it seems to work. |
| 10:15.32 | dyoung | I'm gonna ignore it for now we can add "insmod nfs" like stuff later. |
| 10:15.46 | rwhitby | ok, so let's push those changes through in the next five hours |
| 10:15.57 | dyoung | okay |
| 10:16.03 | rwhitby | tell me the modules you need added to the image, and I'll add them to both unslung and openslug |
| 10:16.07 | dyoung | I'll probably only last 1 or 2. |
| 10:16.23 | rwhitby | (and change the unslung kernel defconfig to suit) |
| 10:16.23 | dyoung | theyre in unslung already as =y |
| 10:16.28 | dyoung | but let me check that right now. |
| 10:17.13 | rwhitby | I have a phone call in 3.75 hours which will go for a couple of hours at least ... |
| 10:17.50 | rwhitby | I'm in openslug-image.bb now, so what modules should I add to the base image? |
| 10:18.10 | dyoung | comparing the 2.4 to the 2.6... |
| 10:18.43 | dyoung | NFS_FS NFS_V3 |
| 10:19.03 | dyoung | that might be the minimum since we're gonna use the nolock option. |
| 10:19.11 | dyoung | SUNRPC *maybe* |
| 10:19.28 | dyoung | actually yes in case we decide to uyse portmap afterall. |
| 10:19.45 | dyoung | in which case we'll need LOCKD and possibly LOCKD_V4 too |
| 10:20.33 | dyoung | the openslug one should probably have NFSD=m too, but thats obviously not needed for nfsroot. |
| 10:20.37 | dyoung | (its turned off right now) |
| 10:20.47 | dyoung | kernel config that is |
| 10:21.43 | dyoung | and the openslug kernel cofig should probably hvae SMB_FS as a module too. |
| 10:23.23 | rwhitby | ok, so changes to current defconfig are: |
| 10:23.39 | rwhitby | CONFIG_NFSD=m |
| 10:23.45 | rwhitby | CONFIG_SMB_FS=m |
| 10:23.59 | rwhitby | everything else is there as needed |
| 10:24.09 | rwhitby | (just have to add the modules to the image) |
| 10:25.41 | dyoung | okay sound good |
| 10:26.03 | dyoung | rebuilding switchbox |
| 10:26.30 | rwhitby | so that's kernel-module-* (nfs, sunrpc, lockd) |
| 10:26.45 | rwhitby | added to openslug-image.bb IPKG_INSTALL |
| 10:49.22 | rwhitby | do I need kernel-module-exportfs too, or is that just for nfsd? |
| 10:50.13 | dyoung | thats probably a nfs-server thing. |
| 10:50.26 | dyoung | I must be getting tired, making some silly mistakes. |
| 10:50.53 | dyoung | This is like round 4 of test. |
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| 10:57.28 | Wipmac | hi all. after upgrading openssh via ipkg on the slug i cant get into the nslu2 using ssh-client putty. any clues? |
| 10:58.52 | rwhitby | upgrading openssh when you're logged in through openssh is unfortunately not a good thing to do .... |
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| 10:59.52 | Wipmac | i use to do ipkg upgrade every now and then, which up to now was pretty comfortable. and now? :( |
| 11:00.13 | Wipmac | ican still telnet into the thing |
| 11:00.42 | rwhitby | try upgrading openssh again when telnetted in |
| 11:03.05 | Wipmac | rwhitby: that saved me! :) should we/i post that anywhere(howto?)? |
| 11:03.22 | rwhitby | yep - an FAQ would be good |
| 11:04.09 | Wipmac | i just add it in the FAQ i hope thats ok |
| 11:04.35 | rwhitby | um, yeah, that would be fine .... |
| 11:10.04 | Wipmac | hope its ok that i citated you rwhitby in the faq no. 29 ;) |
| 11:13.06 | CIA-11 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2865 10openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox-1.00/openslug/defconfig: remove find and cpio from openslug busybox config in favour of heavyweight versions |
| 11:13.10 | CIA-11 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2864 10openembedded/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Remove payload dependency for nfsroot, switchbox 4.10 |
| 11:13.39 | rwhitby | is 4.10 uploaded? |
| 11:13.42 | dyoung | yes |
| 11:15.02 | dyoung | for the nfs howto.. |
| 11:15.37 | rwhitby | you need to bump the busybox PR |
| 11:15.40 | dyoung | HowTo/SetupAndUseANFSRootFS or something? |
| 11:15.45 | dyoung | sigh |
| 11:15.51 | dyoung | always forgetting that.... |
| 11:16.18 | rwhitby | HowTo/LoadRootfsFromNFS ? |
| 11:17.02 | dyoung | bump the main busybox_1.00.bb ? |
| 11:17.44 | rwhitby | yep |
| 11:18.00 | rwhitby | believe it or not :-) |
| 11:18.35 | CIA-11 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2866 10openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox_1.00.bb: Forgot to bump PR again |
| 11:27.10 | rwhitby | Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/mtdblock4 ... |
| 11:27.10 | rwhitby | . /usr/sbin/chroot: error while loading sKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 11:27.10 | rwhitby | hared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 11:27.46 | rwhitby | could be something I've done locally .... |
| 11:28.29 | dyoung | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/LoadRootfsFromNFS |
| 11:28.30 | rwhitby | dyoung: does your openslug rootfs have /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 in it? |
| 11:29.18 | dyoung | hmm, I can do a clean build. |
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| 11:30.05 | dyoung | Yes it does in /lib |
| 11:30.35 | rwhitby | ok, it's not in my roots |
| 11:30.37 | rwhitby | rootfs |
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| 11:32.19 | rwhitby | if you're gonna do a clean build, then try this one ... |
| 11:32.23 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2867 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added NFS-related modules for OpenSlug rootfs loading from NFS |
| 11:33.06 | dyoung | I was gonna do a unslung build first. |
| 11:33.16 | dyoung | make sure i didnt break something. |
| 11:33.38 | rwhitby | ok, I'm doing a clean openslug build to see if I get libgcc_s.so.1 back ... |
| 11:33.57 | dyoung | though I can imagine how... since I didnt touch anything other than the nfsroot stanza |
| 11:34.08 | dyoung | s/can/cant/ |
| 11:34.12 | rwhitby | right |
| 11:36.08 | rwhitby | howto looks good |
| 11:36.30 | dyoung | its going to be virtually identical to the extdisk rootfs howto. |
| 11:36.45 | dyoung | although I think we might want a user-friendly tool for that. |
| 11:37.01 | rwhitby | we should add both to unsling and opensling |
| 11:37.03 | dyoung | telnet in, type this, wait for 5 min, reboot |
| 11:38.55 | dyoung | hmm, like try mount it and if it didnt work complain? Do we have an easy way to detect if a directory is mounted? |
| 11:40.04 | rwhitby | no, have it as an option for unsling and opensling (like "unsling nfs") |
| 11:40.18 | rwhitby | could even ask questions and create the .nfsroot files .. |
| 11:40.21 | dyoung | Right, but we still need to know if tha tmount is really mounted.... |
| 11:40.46 | dyoung | Unless we depend on the user to KNOW that its mounted. |
| 11:40.59 | giel | cat /proc/mounts? |
| 11:41.14 | rwhitby | caveat emptor for nfs root |
| 11:41.47 | dyoung | oh gawd. |
| 11:42.48 | dyoung | $status = cat /proc/mounts | grep /mnt/tmpmnt | grep nfs |
| 11:42.55 | dyoung | or something uglier. |
| 11:42.57 | dyoung | Ick. |
| 11:43.14 | dyoung | Yeah, if you want to do NFS, you should know what the heck youre doing. |
| 11:43.41 | giel | you should _always_ know what you're doing :P |
| 11:43.57 | dyoung | Is that like how you should *always* read the manual ? |
| 11:43.58 | dyoung | ;-) |
| 11:44.11 | giel | no |
| 11:44.21 | giel | if you know what you're doing you don't have to read the manual |
| 11:44.29 | dyoung | hahahahahaha |
| 11:44.34 | giel | but if you don't know what you're doing, the manual might be a good starting point ;) |
| 11:44.53 | dyoung | touché |
| 11:45.28 | giel | i know i'd do a lot better knowing what i'm doing knowing doing with coffee! |
| 11:45.35 | giel | brb |
| 11:48.10 | giel | okay, now i'm gonna read a book about video codecs. to know what i'm doing |
| 11:48.59 | dyoung | good plan |
| 11:49.16 | giel | might come in handy when developing dvb-h applications |
| 11:49.40 | Wipmac | when trying to install apache or php i get this error:Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for apache: |
| 11:49.40 | Wipmac | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.45 | Wipmac | clues? |
| 11:52.22 | dyoung | weird. |
| 11:52.35 | dyoung | tried ipkg install openldap already? |
| 11:52.52 | dyoung | its a bug. |
| 11:53.03 | Wipmac | there is no openldap package :( |
| 11:53.52 | dyoung | oh? |
| 11:54.02 | dyoung | okay THATS a bug then. |
| 11:54.06 | dyoung | or the bug rather |
| 11:56.34 | Wipmac | and i read ppl were installing apache successsfully ;) |
| 11:58.49 | dyoung | hmm |
| 11:59.01 | dyoung | did you at any time do ipkg install unslung-feeds ? |
| 11:59.16 | dyoung | if you havnt you need to. |
| 12:03.23 | dyoung | wipmac, and if that ipkg install unslung-feeds helps you get openldap, please reply to the folks on the yahoo group, because a lot of other people are having the same issue with a missing openldap. |
| 12:09.52 | Wipmac | have installed unslung-feeds -> installing php or apache now leads immediately to error: 4 ? |
| 12:10.32 | dyoung | you'll need to do a ipkg update too. ;-) |
| 12:11.03 | dyoung | ipkg install unslung-feeds; ipkg update |
| 12:11.09 | dyoung | to get the new feed info. |
| 12:12.23 | Wipmac | what does unslung-feeds do in fact? |
| 12:12.31 | rwhitby | Wipmac: do you read the mailing list? |
| 12:12.38 | Wipmac | sure i do |
| 12:12.48 | rwhitby | must have a short memory then :-) |
| 12:12.51 | dyoung | When we started building stuff native we added a separate feed for the natively compiled packages. |
| 12:14.13 | Wipmac | anyways, does it harm anything installing unslung-feeds? |
| 12:14.40 | rwhitby | it resets your router and deletes all your files ... |
| 12:14.53 | dyoung | no it makes things better, because now you'll have access to the native packages, of which openldap is one of. |
| 12:14.55 | Wipmac | then its ok;) |
| 12:15.05 | dyoung | Or maybe rwhitby's answer is better. ;-) |
| 12:23.43 | Wipmac | anyways i replied on the yahoogroup so they know |
| 12:24.39 | dyoung | Thanks. |
| 12:24.58 | Wipmac | i thank you! |
| 12:26.00 | dyoung | You'll be the hero of the day. ;-) |
| 12:27.12 | dyoung | did it work for you? |
| 12:30.30 | Wipmac | well ipkg install php now installs php, apache and all the rest..but gives me some errors |
| 12:31.16 | dyoung | what sort of errors? |
| 12:32.05 | Wipmac | i paste it in a private msg to you ok? |
| 12:32.41 | dyoung | ok |
| 12:33.22 | dyoung | Ah ok |
| 12:33.51 | dyoung | that one is related to the nsswitch.conf issue. |
| 12:34.34 | dyoung | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/4570 |
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| 12:38.17 | [g2] | dyoung, you've been a busy boy! |
| 12:38.51 | dyoung | I'm un-naturally motivated tody. |
| 12:39.06 | dyoung | and I'm also really darn sleepy! |
| 12:39.07 | [g2] | thx |
| 12:39.13 | [g2] | rwhitby too! |
| 12:39.27 | [g2] | is now a good time to pull and rebuild OpenSlug ? |
| 12:39.50 | dyoung | I'm done for the eve, and I think rwhitby is on a long phone call now. |
| 12:39.57 | dyoung | so I guess so. |
| 12:40.07 | dyoung | I dunno what i/we broke. |
| 12:40.34 | [g2] | I'd imagine nothing |
| 12:40.41 | dyoung | thats what I hope. |
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| 12:41.08 | dyoung | I gotta re-openslug myself to test out my mt-daapd bb before pusing it. |
| 12:42.28 | [g2] | I'll try out the heavy weight cpio |
| 12:43.21 | dyoung | the nfs wiki page I put up is virtually the same for extdisk. |
| 12:43.21 | dyoung | the commands at lesat. |
| 12:43.22 | dyoung | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/LoadRootfsFromNFS |
| 12:43.37 | rwhitby | I'm still here - just waiting for my build to complete to see if I get my libgcc_s.so.1 back ... |
| 12:45.04 | [g2] | rwhitby, thx for putting BT modules in there ! |
| 12:45.11 | [g2] | I'll plug in my BT adapter too |
| 12:46.44 | Wipmac | dyoung: thx for info! |
| 12:46.58 | dyoung | I started on openslung-switchbox-payload too, but got confused.... so I'll revisit that later. |
| 12:47.10 | dyoung | wipmac, so that worked for you? |
| 12:49.52 | [g2] | rwhitby, the kernel didn't rebuild for me |
| 12:50.35 | Wipmac | dyoung: yes, worked, and i am editing a FAQ # 30 about installing apache, since i have no access to the HowTo-Editing |
| 12:51.34 | dyoung | okay cool, thanks. |
| 12:51.45 | dyoung | I'm out. |
| 12:51.50 | [g2] | nite! |
| 12:51.51 | Wipmac | cya! |
| 12:51.57 | [g2] | sweet dreams |
| 12:52.08 | dyoung-zzzz | thanks! |
| 12:52.51 | Wipmac | still 3 more peeps to go for openslug .. hope they drop in soon ;) |
| 12:53.22 | Wipmac | but this number 17 is there for like months i guess.. |
| 12:53.29 | Wipmac | but g2, u make us hope |
| 12:54.44 | rwhitby | [g2]: what do you mean the kernel didn't rebuild? I bumped the PR ... |
| 12:55.15 | [g2] | rwhitby, what's your PR number ? |
| 12:55.47 | dyoung-zzzz | r4? |
| 12:55.48 | [g2] | Wipmac, is was 15 a week or two ago |
| 12:56.08 | dyoung-zzzz | for the kernel its r6 |
| 12:56.15 | dyoung-zzzz | thats what changesets tells me at least. |
| 12:56.20 | [g2] | package openslug-kernel-2.6.9-r4: task do_patch: completed |
| 12:56.42 | dyoung-zzzz | and bk heave-ho'd? |
| 12:56.43 | dyoung-zzzz | weird.... |
| 12:57.10 | rwhitby | [g2]: r6 here |
| 12:58.09 | rwhitby | NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: |
| 12:58.09 | rwhitby | NOTE: /home/slug/openslug/tmp/cross/lib/libiberty.a |
| 12:58.09 | rwhitby | NOTE: /home/slug/openslug/tmp/cross/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 12:58.23 | rwhitby | something wrong with gcc-cross-3.4.3-r5 is seems |
| 12:58.43 | rwhitby | NOTE: Not creating empty archive for libgcc-3.4.3-r5 |
| 12:58.43 | rwhitby | NOTE: Not creating empty archive for libstdc++-3.4.3-r5 |
| 12:58.43 | rwhitby | NOTE: Not creating empty archive for libg2c-3.4.3-r5 |
| 12:59.06 | rwhitby | wonder if it's another kergothism :-) |
| 13:00.40 | [g2] | rwhitby, Ok I had an apache_bb file open and the patches didn't fully apply, it should work now |
| 13:01.09 | rwhitby | apart from the missing libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 13:02.09 | [g2] | rwhitby, how often does nslu2-linux pull from oe-devel ? |
| 13:02.25 | rwhitby | every hour I think |
| 13:02.53 | rwhitby | it's up to date at the moment |
| 13:03.25 | rwhitby | and fails on the up-to-date version |
| 13:03.46 | rwhitby | do you have an old copy of gcc-cross in your openslug build area? |
| 13:04.07 | [g2] | probably not |
| 13:04.26 | [g2] | or is it about to be overwritten ? |
| 13:04.59 | [g2] | I guess the old one will still be there |
| 13:05.05 | rwhitby | in tmp/work/... |
| 13:05.16 | [g2] | yeah |
| 13:05.19 | rwhitby | gcc-cross has been broken by OE |
| 13:05.40 | Wipmac | any1 can tell me the command to stop / start apache on the nslu2? |
| 13:06.26 | rwhitby | what do you have for FILES_libstdc++ in tmp/work/gcc-cross-3.4.3-r5/install/gcc-cross.package ? |
| 13:07.20 | [g2] | bash-2.05b$ cat gcc-cross.package |
| 13:07.21 | [g2] | PACKAGES: libgcc libstdc++ libg2c |
| 13:07.21 | [g2] | RDEPENDS_libgcc: |
| 13:07.21 | [g2] | PKG_libgcc: libgcc1 |
| 13:07.21 | [g2] | FILES_libgcc: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 13:07.21 | [g2] | RDEPENDS_libstdc++: |
| 13:07.45 | [g2] | PKG_libstdc++: libstdc++6 |
| 13:07.45 | [g2] | FILES_libstdc++: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.* |
| 13:07.45 | [g2] | RDEPENDS_libg2c: |
| 13:07.45 | [g2] | PKG_libg2c: libg2c0 |
| 13:07.45 | [g2] | FILES_libg2c: /usr/lib/libg2c.so. |
| 13:08.03 | rwhitby | right - it's different now in the latest build. |
| 13:08.26 | rwhitby | PACKAGES: libgcc libstdc++ libg2c |
| 13:08.26 | rwhitby | RDEPENDS_libgcc: |
| 13:08.26 | rwhitby | PKG_libgcc: libgcc1 |
| 13:08.26 | rwhitby | FILES_libgcc: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 13:08.26 | rwhitby | RDEPENDS_libstdc++: |
| 13:08.28 | rwhitby | PKG_libstdc++: libstdc++ |
| 13:08.29 | rwhitby | FILES_libstdc++: /home/slug/openslug/tmp/cross/lib/libstdc++.so.* |
| 13:08.31 | rwhitby | RDEPENDS_libg2c: |
| 13:08.33 | rwhitby | PKG_libg2c: libg2c |
| 13:08.35 | rwhitby | FILES_libg2c: /home/slug/openslug/tmp/cross/lib/libg2c.so.* |
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| 13:10.15 | [g2] | rwhitby, when did you wipe tmp ? |
| 13:10.28 | rwhitby | two hours ago |
| 13:10.34 | rwhitby | no changes to repo since I did |
| 13:10.48 | [g2] | so it's something latent in the repo |
| 13:10.49 | rwhitby | I would advise you *not* to wipe tmp at the moment |
| 13:11.02 | rwhitby | I expect it's kergoth's sed gone wrong |
| 13:11.41 | rwhitby | it's stopped me dead |
| 13:11.47 | [g2] | I usually mv tmp to tmp_save then build and test |
| 13:12.21 | [g2] | I'm guessing kergoth isn't in OE |
| 13:12.34 | rwhitby | jbot, seen kergoth? |
| 13:12.43 | jbot | kergoth is currently on #zaurus (6h 10m 23s) #devlounge (6h 10m 23s) #uclibc (6h 10m 23s) #nslu2-linux (6h 10m 23s) #oe (6h 10m 23s) #elinux (6h 10m 23s) #handhelds.org (6h 10m 23s) #ol (6h 10m 23s) #openzaurus (6h 10m 23s) #tacobeam (6h 10m 23s) |
| 13:19.47 | rwhitby | ok, I think I've found where the problem is - gcc-cross_3.3.4.bb is borked |
| 13:30.25 | Wipmac | bye |
| 13:32.14 | [g2] | > if [ "x${OLD_INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP}" != "x1" ]; then >' |
| 13:32.16 | [g2] | ? |
| 13:32.54 | rwhitby | ? |
| 13:33.13 | [g2] | diff gcc-cross_3.3.3.bb gcc-cross_3.3.4.bb |
| 13:33.54 | rwhitby | no, you need to look at versions of 3.3.4.bb |
| 13:33.56 | [g2] | bash-2.05b$ diff gcc-cross_3.3.3.bb gcc-cross_3.3.4.bb |
| 13:33.56 | [g2] | 10a11 |
| 13:33.56 | [g2] | > OLD_INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP := "${INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP}" |
| 13:33.56 | [g2] | 94,96c95,99 |
| 13:33.56 | [g2] | < ${TARGET_PREFIX}strip ${D}${TGT_LIBDIR}/libstdc++.so.* |
| 13:33.56 | [g2] | < ${TARGET_PREFIX}strip ${D}${TGT_LIBDIR}/libg2c.so.* |
| 13:34.02 | [g2] | < ${TARGET_PREFIX}strip ${D}${base_libdir}/libgcc_s.so.* |
| 13:34.04 | [g2] | --- |
| 13:34.10 | [g2] | > if [ "x${OLD_INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP}" != "x1" ]; then |
| 13:34.12 | [g2] | > ${TARGET_PREFIX}strip ${D}${TGT_LIBDIR}/libstdc++.so.* |
| 13:34.14 | [g2] | > ${TARGET_PREFIX}strip ${D}${TGT_LIBDIR}/libg2c.so.* |
| 13:34.16 | [g2] | > ${TARGET_PREFIX}strip ${D}${base_libdir}/libgcc_s.so.* |
| 13:34.18 | [g2] | > fi |
| 13:34.41 | rwhitby | you need to look at versions of 3.3.4.bb |
| 13:35.05 | [g2] | the non cross ? |
| 13:35.15 | rwhitby | no, cross. |
| 13:35.26 | rwhitby | versions as in bk versions, not OE versions |
| 13:35.41 | rwhitby | we have always been using 3.3.4 |
| 13:35.46 | rwhitby | but it changed recently |
| 13:36.39 | [g2] | and the PR number didn't get bumped |
| 13:36.53 | rwhitby | right. bad kergoth, bad |
| 13:37.29 | rwhitby | he is doing the changes for our benefit, so I shouldn't be too harsh |
| 13:37.49 | rwhitby | we're just lucky that VoodooZ didn't find it first :-) |
| 13:37.56 | [g2] | I know, I appreciate all the good work he has done |
| 13:38.09 | [g2] | actually VoodooZ_log may have hit this yesterday |
| 13:38.54 | [g2] | this actually may have been his issue from yesterday |
| 13:39.37 | rwhitby | only if it said libgcc_s.so.1 was missing |
| 13:40.02 | rwhitby | (BTW, when I said 3.3.4, I meant 3.4.3) |
| 13:40.44 | rwhitby | grep for ${D}${prefix} |
| 13:41.42 | [g2] | I don't see it in the 3.4.3 stuff |
| 13:42.02 | rwhitby | 3.4.3-cross.bb |
| 13:42.33 | rwhitby | actually, it's in gcc3-cross-build.inc |
| 13:42.36 | rwhitby | (for 3.4.3) |
| 13:43.53 | [g2] | in do_install around line 60 ? |
| 13:47.07 | rwhitby | yep |
| 13:47.24 | rwhitby | I've removed the $(D) from the front and trying that. |
| 13:47.44 | rwhitby | I think it was written wrong all the time, but worked because of the double slash |
| 13:47.57 | rwhitby | once the double slash was removed, it started to fail |
| 13:53.37 | [g2] | rwhitby, do you know the command to pull up just the csets for a given file ? |
| 13:55.21 | VoodooZ_log | what? I heard my name |
| 13:55.39 | rwhitby | [g2]: nope |
| 13:56.29 | VoodooZ_Work | Are you guys saying somebody hit my problem finally? |
| 13:56.39 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm so ahead of the curve here ;) |
| 13:56.55 | [g2] | did it say libgcc_s.so.1 was missing ? |
| 13:57.23 | VoodooZ_Work | ummm. something like that. but I can't remember. It should be in the log. let me check |
| 13:59.18 | VoodooZ_Work | Here: hared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 13:59.40 | VoodooZ_Work | Wow! finally. I'm not crazy! |
| 14:00.15 | VoodooZ_Work | Is it fixed now? |
| 14:00.36 | [g2] | no, but I think rwhitby may have the same issue |
| 14:01.06 | VoodooZ_Work | good. |
| 14:01.25 | VoodooZ_Work | and bad. |
| 14:03.49 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't understand why you guys didn't get it earlier though. |
| 14:04.35 | rwhitby | cause we didn't rebuild gcc |
| 14:05.25 | VoodooZ_Work | when I asked you guys if you were doing full builds you said though |
| 14:05.43 | rwhitby | yes, but I did the full build just before kergoth made that change |
| 14:06.12 | rwhitby | and then didn't test the later full build image until tonight (the error doesn't show on build, only on flash) |
| 14:06.36 | VoodooZ_Work | yep. I did like 10 full builds in the last 2 days. |
| 14:06.57 | VoodooZ_Work | It was driving me crazy to flash and then see that stupid error every single time. |
| 14:07.07 | VoodooZ_Work | Did pb_ helped? |
| 14:08.46 | rwhitby | is helping now ... |
| 14:10.18 | VoodooZ_Work | great. |
| 14:10.40 | VoodooZ_Work | i noticed you installed the BT stuff by default. good stuff. One less private change I have to make. |
| 14:11.07 | rwhitby | I just enabled the kernel modules. I haven't got it to install anything |
| 14:11.09 | VoodooZ_Work | I see you installed all of them too. DId you make everything that could be made into a module a module to save space? |
| 14:11.17 | VoodooZ_Work | ic. |
| 14:11.24 | VoodooZ_Work | So no bluez package installed then. |
| 14:11.37 | rwhitby | you add that to your local.conf yourself ... |
| 14:11.43 | VoodooZ_Work | makes sense. |
| 14:11.43 | rwhitby | same with the kernel modules |
| 14:11.58 | VoodooZ_Work | Did you get your dongle to work? |
| 14:12.49 | rwhitby | yep, I've got it to detect other devices. was in the middle of setting things up to get it to do networking when this OE problem occurred and stopped me dead |
| 14:13.31 | VoodooZ_Work | that sucks. right in the middle of the fun. |
| 14:13.42 | VoodooZ_Work | anyways, let me know if you need help with the bnep stuff. |
| 14:15.02 | rwhitby | will do - at this rate it will be tomorrow night |
| 14:15.37 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah. I know the feeling. :) |
| 14:18.48 | perlguru-work | I found an issue with perl |
| 14:18.59 | perlguru-work | as normal user i cannot use modules :( |
| 14:19.29 | perlguru-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.46 | perlguru-work | Can't locate CGI/Application.pm |
| 14:19.57 | perlguru-work | as root: no problem |
| 14:20.13 | perlguru-work | I think the permissions of dirs are not correct |
| 14:20.31 | perlguru-work | drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Feb 16 10:30 CGI |
| 14:22.29 | perlguru-work | fix: |
| 14:22.36 | perlguru-work | cd /opt/lib/perl5 |
| 14:22.43 | perlguru-work | chmod -R ga rX * |
| 14:22.59 | perlguru-work | ga\ rX |
| 14:23.20 | perlguru-work | missing plus between ga and rX ;) |
| 14:28.56 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby: Let me know if you need help with the glibc issue. I can do a full build in 30 minutes flat. |
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| 14:43.36 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/ghostscript.mk: working gs make file |
| 14:45.24 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/sources/ghostscript/patch: working ghostscript |
| 14:57.53 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: think we've found the error - changed on 05/02/21 - does that match when it broke for you? |
| 15:02.38 | VoodooZ_Work | Pretty close yes |
| 15:02.46 | VoodooZ_Work | Want me to try it? |
| 15:03.20 | VoodooZ_Work | Keep in mind that I'm at work and have access to my slug remotely but if it fails the first time I won't be able to reboot it remotely |
| 15:12.10 | rwhitby | aahhhh - that's better :-) |
| 15:13.03 | VoodooZ_Work | works? |
| 15:18.05 | rwhitby | Starting Bluetooth subsystem:Bluetooth: Core ver 2.6 |
| 15:18.05 | rwhitby | NET: Registered protocol family 31 |
| 15:18.05 | rwhitby | Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized |
| 15:18.05 | rwhitby | Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized |
| 15:18.05 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.07 | rwhitby | Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized |
| 15:18.07 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.09 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.11 | rwhitby | Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized |
| 15:18.14 | rwhitby | Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized |
| 15:18.15 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.17 | rwhitby | OpenEmbedded Linux nslu2 ttyS0 |
| 15:18.19 | rwhitby | nslu2 login: root |
| 15:18.21 | rwhitby | root@nslu2:~# |
| 15:18.23 | rwhitby | :-) |
| 15:23.43 | VoodooZ_Work | good show |
| 15:24.08 | VoodooZ_Work | I'll probably end up removing the RFCOMM, SCO and HIDP stuff myself as I'll never use them. |
| 15:24.33 | rwhitby | yep, just don't put them in your local.conf :-) |
| 15:24.48 | VoodooZ_Work | euh? |
| 15:24.59 | VoodooZ_Work | nope. :) |
| 15:26.06 | rwhitby | hmm - treo discovers the slug, but won't pair with it |
| 15:26.52 | VoodooZ_Work | won't pair? You have to do it manually. |
| 15:27.04 | VoodooZ_Work | I use pand to take care of connections |
| 15:27.43 | rwhitby | yeah, I tried to pair, but it didn't verify the passkey (even though i change /etc/bluetooth/pin to something numeric) |
| 15:28.32 | VoodooZ_Work | I disabled security and encryption to make things easier. |
| 15:28.56 | rwhitby | yeah, I don't want to do that ... |
| 15:29.03 | VoodooZ_Work | use hcitool con to see active connections. |
| 15:29.19 | VoodooZ_Work | you can reenable later. |
| 15:29.31 | rwhitby | what, after pairing? |
| 15:30.05 | VoodooZ_Work | no, after you figure out all the problems and proper procedure. |
| 15:30.38 | rwhitby | ah, cause that would give anyone in the street access to my LAN .... |
| 15:31.15 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/ghostscript.mk: corrected to use correct gcc |
| 15:31.19 | rwhitby | Mar 25 01:52:23 nslu2 daemon.err hcid[1156]: D-BUS not configured in this build of hcid |
| 15:31.22 | VoodooZ_Work | not like that PIn is much security! :) |
| 15:31.47 | VoodooZ_Work | did you use the nodbus flavour of bluez-utils? |
| 15:31.49 | rwhitby | looks like hcid is not running |
| 15:31.52 | rwhitby | yeah |
| 15:32.13 | rwhitby | maybe I need to change a config file ... |
| 15:32.23 | VoodooZ_Work | there's a file that configures what runs on startup but I don't have access to a working slug so I can't tell. |
| 15:32.24 | [g2] | rwhitby, did you manually install the modules ? |
| 15:32.28 | VoodooZ_Work | hcid.conf |
| 15:32.40 | rwhitby | [g2]: I put them in my local.conf |
| 15:32.41 | VoodooZ_Work | or something in /etc/default/ or even /etc/sysconfig |
| 15:33.04 | VoodooZ_Work | there might be a bluetooth file in there. |
| 15:33.12 | [g2] | rwhitby, I meant on the slug |
| 15:33.22 | VoodooZ_Work | actually, there isn't by default. I added one myself in my private changes. |
| 15:33.33 | [g2] | I don't know if hotplug-ng is going to work properly for the net device |
| 15:33.44 | rwhitby | [g2]: yeah, I put them in my local.conf, so they became part of the flash image |
| 15:34.15 | [g2] | the usb-ethernet adapter doesn't hotplug right becuase ethernet is fully supported yet in hotplug-ng |
| 15:34.19 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby: I never thought of doing that. (re: local.conf) |
| 15:35.44 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: that's why I put the OPENSLUG_EXTRA_* variables in about six months ago :-) |
| 15:35.50 | rwhitby | ok, hcid is now running |
| 15:36.10 | VoodooZ_Work | good. |
| 15:36.31 | VoodooZ_Work | you might have to play with SDP to enable services too. |
| 15:36.52 | rwhitby | paired :-) |
| 15:36.57 | VoodooZ_Work | in your case you want the slug to act as a NAP. |
| 15:37.01 | [g2] | congrats! |
| 15:37.10 | VoodooZ_Work | does hcitool con show the connections? |
| 15:37.59 | rwhitby | don't have a connection yet, just a pairing |
| 15:38.09 | VoodooZ_Work | true. |
| 15:38.22 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't have security that's why. |
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| 15:41.06 | VoodooZ_Work | I have the config file run pand --search --role PANU --persist |
| 15:41.45 | VoodooZ_Work | I just checked and I had to add a bluetooth.default file to my bluez package and have it install it in /etc/default/bluetooth. |
| 15:42.01 | VoodooZ_Work | There should be a sample one in the source folder or I can send you mine. |
| 15:42.43 | rwhitby | I already have one installed for free |
| 15:43.05 | VoodooZ_Work | in /etc/default/? |
| 15:43.09 | rwhitby | ye |
| 15:43.11 | rwhitby | yep |
| 15:43.39 | VoodooZ_Work | really? But it wasn't created by OE though. |
| 15:44.11 | rwhitby | yes it was |
| 15:44.48 | VoodooZ_Work | I guess I'll have to review my private changes when I put them in. |
| 15:45.14 | giel | rwhitby: if you incorporate some of my suggested changes in defconfig, could you update the wiki page accordingly? |
| 15:47.35 | rwhitby | giel: will do |
| 15:49.18 | [g2] | giel, thx for writing those up |
| 15:49.20 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: the slug is showing up as a PDA device instead of a Computer device |
| 15:49.26 | rwhitby | how do I change that? |
| 15:49.58 | VoodooZ_Work | It's the type defined in hcid.conf. I don't know the exact numbering though. |
| 15:50.05 | VoodooZ_Work | what do you have right now? |
| 15:50.24 | VoodooZ_Work | the class entry |
| 15:50.31 | rwhitby | ah - of course - that will be set up for OE (which is a PDA historically) |
| 15:50.38 | rwhitby | 0x120112 |
| 15:50.42 | VoodooZ_Work | I set mine to 0x100. |
| 15:50.53 | VoodooZ_Work | Not that it makes a diff in my case though. |
| 15:51.58 | VoodooZ_Work | what does it show up as with 0x100? |
| 15:52.01 | rwhitby | ~google "dbus bluetooth" |
| 15:52.19 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: you're famous |
| 15:52.24 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe |
| 15:52.30 | VoodooZ_Work | or INfamous |
| 15:52.59 | VoodooZ_Work | dbus shouldn't have anything to do though. |
| 15:53.06 | rwhitby | what is dbus? |
| 15:53.24 | VoodooZ_Work | It's a fancy windowing notification system I think. |
| 15:53.48 | VoodooZ_Work | That's why I used bluez-utils-nodbus which is useless on the slug. |
| 15:54.23 | VoodooZ_Work | like a hotplug on a windowing level. :) |
| 15:54.52 | [g2] | after we get this worked out, we should get the nslu2 specific machine changes put upstream into the OE repo for bluez-utils |
| 15:54.54 | VoodooZ_Work | but google would define it better than me for sure. |
| 15:55.32 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: google keeps pointing me to your wiki page ... |
| 15:56.06 | VoodooZ_Work | hahaha I hope my email is not on there! :) |
| 15:56.37 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: seems that dbus is a messaging system, not a windowing system |
| 15:56.37 | VoodooZ_Work | Check the links on there. There's a place explaining the class stuff. or google for bluetooth class bluez |
| 15:56.52 | rwhitby | so dbus may be useful on a slug |
| 15:56.59 | VoodooZ_Work | sorry. that's what I was TRYING to say. :( |
| 15:57.17 | [g2] | isn't dbus there in /sysfs ? |
| 15:57.29 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, but I was under the impression it was typically used for passing notifications in an windowing system. |
| 15:58.00 | rwhitby | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fDbusProjects |
| 15:58.14 | VoodooZ_Work | Otherwise why would've OE people bothered to create a bluez-nodbus variations? |
| 15:58.19 | Tiersten | 0x120112 is a telephone device that has audio and rendering? |
| 15:58.49 | VoodooZ_Work | that's why I disabled the SCO crap. It's for audio like a BT headset. |
| 15:59.22 | [g2] | which is something I may use from my slug |
| 15:59.48 | VoodooZ_Work | it's going to be one hell of bloated slug by the end. :) |
| 16:00.01 | rwhitby | BT headset to VOIP on the slug .... |
| 16:00.37 | [g2] | I had the Creative Mp3+ USB in my hand the other day |
| 16:01.01 | [g2] | If we need the codec/audio support that was like $40 |
| 16:01.40 | [g2] | I don't know if we can just route the audio to the headset or it needs to go through the codec first |
| 16:02.19 | [g2] | You guys probably saw this http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9180984123.html |
| 16:03.07 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: network access point would be 0x020300, right? |
| 16:04.03 | VoodooZ_Work | no idea. |
| 16:04.16 | VoodooZ_Work | I just remember that 0x100 made more sense for me. |
| 16:04.50 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't think it makes that much difference though. It depends on the service you run on it. |
| 16:05.10 | VoodooZ_Work | But it might show up differently on a PDA like yours. |
| 16:07.23 | Tiersten | 0x100 is just a computer |
| 16:07.30 | Tiersten | Doesn't set any of the service class bits |
| 16:09.11 | VoodooZ_Work | works fine though. I didn't see a lot of BT howtos mentionning anything about the class bits actually so I didn't give it too much thought. |
| 16:09.24 | Tiersten | Yeah. Just setting it to 0x100 is fine |
| 16:11.03 | VoodooZ_Work | Then again, my needs are special. I just want the robot to try to connect to my portable using BNEP on startup so... |
| 16:11.31 | Tiersten | The bits are defined on the bluetooth SIG page |
| 16:12.35 | VoodooZ_Work | ok. |
| 16:12.39 | VoodooZ_Work | good to know. |
| 16:12.42 | Tiersten | https://www.bluetooth.org/foundry/assignnumb/document/baseband |
| 16:13.52 | Tiersten | oops. mistake earlier :) |
| 16:13.58 | Tiersten | had it shifted by one bit |
| 16:15.36 | Tiersten | It's saying it's a PDA with networking and object transfer :) |
| 16:15.37 | Tiersten | duh |
| 16:17.29 | VoodooZ_Work | OBEX. yeah. |
| 16:18.42 | rwhitby | that matches OE better :-) |
| 16:18.50 | Tiersten | yeah :) |
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| 16:21.46 | Tiersten | 0x82010A or 0x820302 is probably what you want |
| 16:22.10 | Tiersten | 0x820302 is a AP which has networking and information i.e. web server |
| 16:22.23 | Tiersten | 0x82010A is a server class computer which has networking and information |
| 16:23.56 | rwhitby | ...302 doesn't make sense, cause the 2 is for a computer, but the 3 says it's a network access point |
| 16:24.11 | Tiersten | huh? |
| 16:24.31 | rwhitby | what's the last 2 in 820302 mean? |
| 16:24.33 | Tiersten | It's SERVICE|MAJOR|MINOR|FORMAT_TYPE |
| 16:24.47 | Tiersten | The two LSB bits are the format type |
| 16:25.22 | rwhitby | oh, ok :-) |
| 16:25.33 | rwhitby | what does 0x10 format mean? |
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| 16:25.57 | Tiersten | No clue. It was set in the original class :) |
| 16:27.25 | rwhitby | that page describes the format=00 format |
| 16:27.36 | rwhitby | so it should be 820300 |
| 16:27.51 | rwhitby | which is what I said, plus web/wap |
| 16:28.00 | Tiersten | 10 probably added some bits |
| 16:28.25 | Tiersten | so some of the ones that are reserved actually mean something |
| 16:28.29 | Tiersten | but yeah, 20300 |
| 16:28.50 | rwhitby | treo now recognises it as a network access device |
| 16:29.02 | Tiersten | Cool |
| 16:29.17 | Tiersten | The minor field is odd on a AP |
| 16:29.28 | VoodooZ_Work | I'll have to try that as my windows XP box doesn't want to cooperate with my slug. |
| 16:29.29 | Tiersten | Half of it states how the load on the AP |
| 16:29.40 | Tiersten | how loaded the AP is |
| 16:30.44 | rwhitby | yeah |
| 16:30.55 | rwhitby | I doubt the treo will be able to overload the slug :-) |
| 16:31.01 | [g2] | kergoth ping |
| 16:31.12 | Tiersten | heh |
| 16:31.18 | rwhitby | jbot, seen kergoth? |
| 16:31.21 | jbot | kergoth is currently on #zaurus (9h 29m 1s) #devlounge (9h 29m 1s) #uclibc (9h 29m 1s) #nslu2-linux (9h 29m 1s) #oe (9h 29m 1s) #elinux (9h 29m 1s) #handhelds.org (9h 29m 1s) #ol (9h 29m 1s) #openzaurus (9h 29m 1s) #tacobeam (9h 29m 1s) |
| 16:31.23 | Tiersten | whats the bluetooth speed like on the Treo? |
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| 16:31.43 | Tiersten | My brother has a T5 and it seems Bluetooth is implemented using a 115.2k serial Bluetooth module |
| 16:31.52 | rwhitby | faster than GPRS and slower than broadband :-) |
| 16:32.00 | VoodooZ_Work | I was getting around 75Kbps using scp on mine. |
| 16:32.10 | Tiersten | Trying to stream a 128kbps MP3 was a bit stuttery |
| 16:32.10 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/Makefile: added ghostscript to files to be tested |
| 16:32.15 | VoodooZ_Work | oops. I meant to say 75kilobytes/sec |
| 16:32.28 | [g2] | plenty fast for IRC |
| 16:32.35 | Tiersten | VoodooZ_Work: On a Treo? |
| 16:32.39 | Tiersten | Or laptop -> NSLU2 |
| 16:32.39 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby: just added ghostscript to files to be tested. |
| 16:32.49 | VoodooZ_Work | nope. From my slug to a PC |
| 16:32.51 | rwhitby | and reading IRC logs |
| 16:33.05 | Tiersten | yeah |
| 16:33.20 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm not sure if it's in range or what but I'm satisfied. |
| 16:33.21 | rwhitby | [1]garpinc: did you see the mailing list announcement? |
| 16:33.29 | [1]garpinc | no. |
| 16:33.41 | [1]garpinc | What announcement? Which mailing list? |
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| 16:34.02 | rwhitby | the nslu2-linux mailing list which you need to read to keep up to date with what's happening on the project |
| 16:34.29 | Gorx | is there a way of fixing samba by just copying ome files? |
| 16:35.04 | [g2] | rwhitby, I'd like to close the loop on the /lib issue with kergoth to get the repo in a good state (or did you revert in the nslu2-linux repo) ? |
| 16:35.14 | rwhitby | Gorx: cp /dev/zero > /usr/sbin/samba ? |
| 16:35.30 | rwhitby | [g2]: haven't pushed anything yet - waiting for kergoth to appear |
| 16:35.41 | rwhitby | s/cp/cat/ |
| 16:35.46 | Tiersten | Does the Treo have built in Bluetooth? |
| 16:35.53 | rwhitby | Treo 650 does |
| 16:36.08 | Tiersten | Thought so. The Palm page doen't list Bluetooth at all for the 650 |
| 16:36.31 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby when was the announcement made? |
| 16:36.33 | rwhitby | really? that and the screen res is the reason why I traded in my 600 |
| 16:36.45 | Tiersten | rwhitby: http://www.palmone.com/us/products/smartphones/treo650/details.epl |
| 16:36.56 | Tiersten | If it's there then I'm blind :) |
| 16:37.23 | Tiersten | The low screen res of the older Treo is what put me off originally |
| 16:38.01 | rwhitby | the third icon from the top right on the screen :-) |
| 16:38.27 | Gorx | whitby that wasnt it |
| 16:38.52 | rwhitby | http://www.palmone.com/us/products/smartphones/treo650/ has it at the bottom |
| 16:38.53 | Tiersten | Okay. The TEXT doesn't have it :) |
| 16:39.14 | [1]garpinc | Gorx I think rwhitby is trying to tell you something.... (Can you guess what :-)) |
| 16:39.36 | rwhitby | Tiersten: you're right - that's a pretty bad details page to leave off Bluetooth |
| 16:39.59 | rwhitby | Gorx: which samba problem are you referring to? |
| 16:40.11 | Gorx | the failed to get samba info one |
| 16:40.20 | Tiersten | It in the wiki |
| 16:40.24 | rwhitby | FAQ |
| 16:42.10 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby I don't see which announcement you are referring to... |
| 16:44.02 | rwhitby | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/4533 |
| 16:44.21 | giel | there, i'm braindead... i've written down to much blah |
| 16:45.05 | giel | writing invention disclosures (the first step in filing a patent) is an odd job |
| 16:45.23 | giel | one has to explain high technology in laymen's terms |
| 16:45.29 | rwhitby | indeed |
| 16:45.36 | rwhitby | and draw pictures with lots of numbers on them |
| 16:45.43 | giel | and then the pinpointing of possible revenues |
| 16:45.43 | rwhitby | and little curvy arrows |
| 16:45.50 | giel | yeah, those graphix rule! |
| 16:46.23 | giel | but luckily if i write some sort of coherent ID, the real patent is written by an attorny |
| 16:46.45 | rwhitby | yep |
| 16:46.58 | giel | and then more money for me :) |
| 16:47.07 | Tiersten | ah. the fun of a patent application. I've not done one personally but i've seen somebody do it. What starts as a nice concise description of the thing suddenly becomes about 40 pages of legal mumbojumbo |
| 16:47.12 | giel | 1) invent 2) blah blah 3) more blah blah 4) profit! |
| 16:47.34 | giel | uhu... never read the 40 pages legal stuff, just sign it |
| 16:47.46 | rwhitby | http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US5576731&F=8 |
| 16:47.51 | [1]garpinc | Got it rwhitby.... True teamwork... Great delegation management.... |
| 16:47.56 | Tiersten | I guess that is what you're paying the lawyer for :) |
| 16:48.01 | giel | yep |
| 16:48.09 | giel | well, not me personally ofcourse :) |
| 16:48.39 | giel | that's what my employer is paying him for :) |
| 16:48.45 | Tiersten | rwhitby: ermmm... you're updating only the portions of the screen that require it? |
| 16:49.09 | rwhitby | state of the art in 1996 :-) |
| 16:49.24 | Tiersten | oh no. not knocking the idea. just trying to see if I understood the abstract :) |
| 16:50.30 | giel | i'm blahblah-ing away on dvb-h now |
| 16:50.47 | rwhitby | http://www.tu-berlin.de/~insi/ag_heppke/flcd.html |
| 16:50.49 | Tiersten | No broadcast flag okay? :) |
| 16:51.10 | giel | not me to decide :) |
| 16:51.42 | giel | and, ofcourse there will be a broadcast flag, and all kinds of DRM |
| 16:51.54 | giel | telcos are only thinking in ARPU these days |
| 16:52.00 | giel | Average Revenue per User |
| 16:52.48 | giel | ...maybe we should have a #nslu2-chat :P |
| 16:53.03 | Tiersten | Apparently the FCC are getting rap for trying to require the broadcast flag in new equipment |
| 16:53.07 | Tiersten | heh yeah |
| 16:53.43 | giel | well, dvb-h is a tad bit different, as you do use the dvb-t link layer, but only to put IP in MPE |
| 16:53.51 | giel | so no mpeg2 streams, just IP packets |
| 16:54.05 | giel | so service providers can really do whatever they want, i guess |
| 16:54.08 | rwhitby | Tiersten: third paragraph in "Driving method" section of http://www.atip.org/fpd/samples/flcd/flcd.htm |
| 16:54.41 | giel | :) |
| 16:54.49 | giel | nice work! |
| 16:55.18 | giel | the real money for the company ofcourse comes in when IPR is embodied in a standard |
| 16:55.38 | giel | then manufacturers of products using that standard are forced to incorporate your invention |
| 16:55.45 | rwhitby | or a substitute for money - cross-licensig |
| 16:55.57 | giel | just as good |
| 16:56.01 | rwhitby | yep |
| 16:56.23 | giel | oh well, off to home |
| 16:56.27 | giel | ttyl |
| 16:56.55 | Tiersten | Bye |
| 16:57.20 | giel | okay, one more fun link just to show off: http://v3.espacenet.com/results?IA=philips&sf=q&FIRST=1&CY=ep&LG=en&DB=EPODOC&st=IA&kw=philips&Submit=SEARCH&=&=&=&=&= |
| 16:57.41 | giel | approx. 100000 results... pfah, nice understatement :P |
| 16:58.35 | rwhitby | giel: you've been a busy boy - are those all yours ;-) |
| 16:58.45 | giel | heh, actually none of them are mine |
| 16:58.46 | giel | yet |
| 16:58.59 | Tiersten | yet? |
| 17:00.07 | rwhitby | giel has a take-over plan for philips |
| 17:00.16 | Tiersten | :) |
| 17:00.32 | giel | my roommate has 14 hits |
| 17:00.45 | rwhitby | his dvb-h patent is going to be so pervasive that philips will have to hand over all 100000 ... |
| 17:01.17 | giel | well, i meant that if you'll do that same search some time from now, some of the results will be mine |
| 17:01.23 | giel | and you understood that all to well! |
| 17:01.26 | giel | i know you did! |
| 17:01.27 | giel | :) |
| 17:02.20 | Tiersten | 1) take over phillips 2) *shrug* 3) profit! |
| 17:02.32 | giel | -l |
| 17:02.46 | giel | okay, now i'm really off |
| 17:03.05 | rwhitby | ciao |
| 17:05.09 | Gorx | is there any easy way to rest the sysconf? |
| 17:06.31 | rwhitby | yes, you follow the instructions on the wiki |
| 17:07.38 | Gorx | no thats hard there is an easy way someone toldme it on here |
| 17:07.54 | Gorx | but i cant remeber what it was i think it invloved copying two files |
| 17:08.04 | Tiersten | That's hard?? |
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| 17:08.34 | Gorx | tedious i should have said |
| 17:08.51 | Tiersten | well... you should be able to clear it via telnet or serial if you can get in |
| 17:09.22 | Gorx | using the command mentioned? |
| 17:09.41 | Tiersten | No |
| 17:09.45 | [g2] | hey anybody know how to show the I/O count to the devices like the hd ? |
| 17:10.12 | [g2] | I'm running off flash as root and wanted to make sure a I/O's weren't happening |
| 17:10.23 | [g2] | I remounted / with noatime,nodiratime |
| 17:10.26 | ByronT | ~nslu2-general |
| 17:10.27 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 17:10.45 | rwhitby | hehe |
| 17:10.55 | rwhitby | [g2] got ~nslu2-general'ed |
| 17:11.09 | [g2] | that's a specific question not a general question :) |
| 17:11.33 | ByronT | oh, I just like to throw that out when I enter the room |
| 17:11.33 | rwhitby | [g2]: when I was looking at flash stick writes, there was a file under /proc |
| 17:11.49 | rwhitby | yeah - the timing was priceless :-) |
| 17:12.11 | [g2] | rwhitby, I know I looked under proc but there are quite a few files under proc |
| 17:12.20 | rwhitby | looking now ... |
| 17:12.22 | [g2] | and that was priceless timing :) |
| 17:12.33 | Tiersten | [g2]: Not sure if you can. You can tell the kernel to add stats to /proc/partitions but it has to be compiled in |
| 17:12.44 | rwhitby | [g2]: /proc/stat |
| 17:13.00 | ByronT | I've always had a good sense of timing.. or a bad watch, not sure which |
| 17:15.22 | rwhitby | on 2.4 - /proc/diskstats on 2.6 |
| 17:15.37 | Gorx | is there a sysconf anywhere on the slug that I can copy to? |
| 17:16.01 | [g2] | thx |
| 17:16.01 | Tiersten | Just do what it says in resetsysconf in the wiki |
| 17:16.07 | rwhitby | Gorx: have you even read the instructions on the wiki? |
| 17:16.40 | Gorx | yes but it invloves going into redboot and i cant be botherred caus i fixed the prob b4 by copying a file |
| 17:16.58 | rwhitby | really? did you update the wiki with your improved procedure? |
| 17:17.15 | ByronT | Gorx, you're treading on thin ice telling us that you can't be bothered to read wiki instructions |
| 17:17.28 | rwhitby | cause it's the first I've heard of being able to fix a borked sysconf by copying a file |
| 17:18.09 | Gorx | how do you reset the sysconf then |
| 17:18.10 | rwhitby | ByronT: Gorx read the instructions, but can't be bothered following them :-) |
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| 17:18.33 | rwhitby | um, by doing what it says on the wiki page ? |
| 17:18.47 | Gorx | yes but i can t be botehred ive just said |
| 17:18.48 | ByronT | rwhitby, same difference... it's not like we didn't put some time and thought creating the instructions |
| 17:18.55 | [g2] | ~nslu2-general |
| 17:18.56 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 17:19.13 | Tiersten | rwhitby: in theory you can do it by connecting to it via serial/telnet/ssh and then doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mtdblock1 |
| 17:19.23 | Tiersten | But most of the time, if you've borked it that badly then you can't telnet or use ssh |
| 17:19.26 | Wipmac | any1 using apache with php? when i put the gallery-package into the apachte html-dir i get a blank screen only, no gallery-settings. do i have to "activate" php first in apache? |
| 17:19.36 | rwhitby | Tiersten: was that /dev/mtdblock1 or /dev/mtdblock0 ? ;-) |
| 17:19.43 | Tiersten | and if you've got serial then you can get to redboot easy enough... |
| 17:19.47 | Tiersten | rwhitby: heh |
| 17:20.30 | ByronT | some ppl should not be allowed to use unslung |
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| 17:21.08 | [g2]-food | I thought you we just staying up late for me :) |
| 17:21.14 | rwhitby | hi peepg! |
| 17:21.28 | ByronT | rwhitby is gracing us with his presence... |
| 17:21.41 | [g2]-food | ~praise rwhitby |
| 17:21.43 | jbot | All hail rwhitby! |
| 17:21.55 | rwhitby | well, trying to get bluetooth working is the reason why I just haven't blown away attending the call |
| 17:22.04 | ByronT | btw, yahoo tables are numbered correctly now |
| 17:22.11 | rwhitby | ~praise ByronT |
| 17:22.13 | jbot | All hail ByronT! |
| 17:22.35 | [g2]-food | rwhitby, doesn't even need a mute button :) |
| 17:22.40 | ByronT | next time, I export the durn tables and re-import - instead of manual correction |
| 17:22.53 | [g2]-food | except for the tap tap on the keyboard |
| 17:23.23 | rwhitby | Doh! where's kergoth gone! |
| 17:23.43 | rwhitby | [g2]-food: it's a mainly listen-only call :-) |
| 17:25.35 | rwhitby | [g2]-food: I'll push those gcc changes now |
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| 17:39.23 | rwhitby | [g2]-food: kergoth is going to fix the gcc problem |
| 17:39.54 | rwhitby | so I won't push what I've done (cause I did a hack) |
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| 17:50.22 | giel | omfg can we plz plz b4n t4th n00b!?!?!!~~one~!!!! |
| 17:50.28 | giel | excuse my leet |
| 17:50.41 | ByronT | :P |
| 17:50.52 | giel | jbot, ban gorx |
| 17:51.11 | giel | jbot, come on, do it! |
| 17:51.32 | giel | well, nm |
| 17:51.45 | ByronT | for the records, giel was privy to yesterdays *experience* with Gorx |
| 17:52.02 | perlguru | :) |
| 17:52.25 | giel | well, being a noob is a good excuse for many things, but not for bothering developers while there's a general channel |
| 17:52.47 | ByronT | he figured that somehow he had changed the ip on his slug, didn't know what it was, and wanted us to tell him how to use a sniffer to determine what it was |
| 17:53.35 | giel | i always use tcpdump for recovering lost pop3 passwords :) |
| 17:53.55 | ByronT | hacker! |
| 17:54.07 | giel | well, yeah! |
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| 17:58.48 | perlguru | I get this accessing Gallery:....com/setup/.htaccess: php_value not allowed here, referer: http:/.... |
| 17:59.06 | perlguru | ? |
| 17:59.11 | Tiersten | You need to modify the Apache config |
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| 17:59.41 | perlguru | ok, Tiersten, what do I have to change? |
| 18:00.00 | Tiersten | you need to add "AllowOverride Options" |
| 18:00.11 | perlguru | ok |
| 18:00.23 | Tiersten | Put this in: |
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| 18:00.32 | Tiersten | <Directory /path/to/gallery> |
| 18:00.34 | perlguru | AllowOverride AuthConfig Options |
| 18:00.37 | Tiersten | yeah |
| 18:00.38 | Tiersten | that's it |
| 18:00.58 | Wipmac_ | just lost connection ..can u repeat pls :( |
| 18:01.05 | siddy-away | hehe, lol. giel: I told you we'd win! |
| 18:02.03 | perlguru | now: RewriteEngine not allowed here, |
| 18:02.18 | Tiersten | You got mod_rewrite enabled? |
| 18:02.20 | Wipmac_ | :) |
| 18:02.24 | giel | siddy-away: shut up kthnxplz :) |
| 18:02.29 | Tiersten | If not, edit that .htaccess and remove the mod_rewrite bits |
| 18:03.04 | perlguru | The .htaccess has :<IfModule mod_rewrite.c> around it |
| 18:03.10 | Tiersten | hrm |
| 18:03.13 | perlguru | yes |
| 18:03.30 | Tiersten | ah okay |
| 18:03.38 | Tiersten | You need to add Options SymLinksIfOwnerMatch as well then :) |
| 18:03.40 | Wipmac_ | where can the "AllowOverride Options" be found pls? |
| 18:04.08 | Tiersten | in the Apache configuration file. Find it yourself. |
| 18:04.27 | Wipmac_ | :) seem to bug u peps :) |
| 18:05.23 | perlguru | need to go. bye |
| 18:06.25 | rwhitby | Wipmac_: most of us are developing things at the same time that we are here. A question which can better be answered by looking for the information yourself just wastes that precious development time. |
| 18:06.57 | rwhitby | AllowOverride is a general Apache configuration statement. To ask that question in an #nslu2-linux channel is just not on. |
| 18:07.23 | Wipmac_ | i appreciate your patience! |
| 18:07.25 | rwhitby | It's even off-topic for the #nslu2-linux channel. |
| 18:07.52 | rwhitby | it's on-topic for #apache |
| 18:08.12 | Wipmac_ | sure , i mean i get it that u guys have other things to do. #apache is a good idea thx |
| 18:09.14 | rwhitby | when you have a question that is nslu2-firmware-specific, and you are *sure* it is not answered on the mailing list or the wiki, then feel free to ask it here. |
| 18:09.47 | rwhitby | you will get a much more friendly response :-) |
| 18:10.03 | Wipmac_ | lol |
| 18:11.48 | ByronT | you can ask almost any question in nslu2-general without upsetting devs |
| 18:11.53 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby: Did you get a hold of kergoth? |
| 18:12.13 | kergoth | yep, i'm on it |
| 18:12.21 | VoodooZ_Work | good |
| 18:12.33 | VoodooZ_Work | thanks |
| 18:12.55 | VoodooZ_Work | then again you probably broke it in the first place! ;-) |
| 18:13.27 | [cc]smart | oha,. just pullinh updates... is there sth. that has not been edited ? |
| 18:13.29 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: be nice :-) kergoth was doing those wide-ranging changes for our benefit |
| 18:13.49 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe Of course. he's still THE MAN, I'm just teasing. |
| 18:14.06 | kergoth | of course i broke it. i'm not as good at VoodooZ_Work at breaking things, but i still manage |
| 18:14.13 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe |
| 18:14.17 | VoodooZ_Work | damn right |
| 18:14.43 | VoodooZ_Work | Goes to show that when I bitch there's a problem, there usually is one. |
| 18:15.08 | kergoth | as a developer, i love users that can do what you do. i need people that can make things break as early on as possible |
| 18:15.16 | kergoth | since shit just tends to work for me for some reason |
| 18:15.34 | VoodooZ_Work | hehe I probably broke it within minutes you pushed the change in! |
| 18:16.53 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: following the bluetooth networking wiki page .... |
| 18:16.58 | rwhitby | got it to l2ping |
| 18:17.07 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, I forgot about that. |
| 18:17.14 | rwhitby | have hcid and sdpd running |
| 18:17.22 | rwhitby | have bnep module installed |
| 18:17.25 | VoodooZ_Work | don't be shy to update it as you go. I really threw this together fast. |
| 18:17.30 | rwhitby | have pand running |
| 18:17.31 | VoodooZ_Work | great. |
| 18:17.43 | rwhitby | but I don't have a bnep0 |
| 18:17.52 | rwhitby | so the ifconfig barfs |
| 18:18.16 | VoodooZ_Work | sdptool can be used to manage services manually but I prefer to use pand to take care of it. |
| 18:18.50 | rwhitby | I ran pand as specified on the page |
| 18:18.52 | kergoth | bluetooth in linux really needs some tender loving care, if you ask me |
| 18:20.05 | VoodooZ_Work | in default/bluetooth: PAND_OPTIONS="--search --role PANU --persist" |
| 18:20.56 | VoodooZ_Work | yours would be different and on my laptop I use "--listen --role NAP" |
| 18:21.11 | rwhitby | yeah - I did --listen --role NAP on the slug |
| 18:21.32 | VoodooZ_Work | damn. My memory is so short. I can't remember. let me check.. |
| 18:21.40 | rwhitby | did you have to create bnep0 somehow? |
| 18:21.42 | kergoth | are there any decent bt in linux howtos, really? |
| 18:21.45 | VoodooZ_Work | yep. |
| 18:22.04 | VoodooZ_Work | after you've loaded the module, just ifconfig bnep0 192.168.... or whatever. |
| 18:22.22 | VoodooZ_Work | Or create an entry in the interfaces file to automatically configure it. |
| 18:22.59 | VoodooZ_Work | And then the network interface will come up automatically once you're connected. |
| 18:23.11 | rwhitby | root@nslu2:/proc# ifconfig bnep0 192.168.128.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:23.12 | rwhitby | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 18:23.12 | rwhitby | SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device |
| 18:23.35 | rwhitby | root@nslu2:/proc# lsmod |
| 18:23.35 | rwhitby | Module Size Used by |
| 18:23.36 | rwhitby | bnep 12448 2 |
| 18:23.36 | rwhitby | hci_usb 11168 2 |
| 18:23.36 | rwhitby | rfcomm 32924 0 |
| 18:23.36 | rwhitby | hidp 11584 2 |
| 18:23.38 | rwhitby | input 12332 1 hidp |
| 18:23.38 | VoodooZ_Work | ummm. let me check my interfaces file |
| 18:23.39 | rwhitby | l2cap 19652 14 bnep,rfcomm,hidp |
| 18:23.41 | rwhitby | bluetooth 41508 9 bnep,hci_usb,rfcomm,hidp,l2cap |
| 18:23.43 | rwhitby | ixp425_eth 23016 0 |
| 18:23.45 | rwhitby | ixp400 671176 1 ixp425_eth |
| 18:24.44 | VoodooZ_Work | damn. let me flash an old load on my slug and I'll be able to tell you easily |
| 18:25.31 | VoodooZ_Work | flashing... |
| 18:27.40 | VoodooZ_Work | in my /etc/network/interfaces: iface bnep0 inet static |
| 18:27.40 | VoodooZ_Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.40 | VoodooZ_Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.23 | VoodooZ_Work | but still. doing it manually should work too. |
| 18:28.40 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't remember having to do anything to start the bnep stuff. |
| 18:28.52 | VoodooZ_Work | and does "hciconfig con" report a connection? |
| 18:30.11 | VoodooZ_Work | kergoth: I've found quite a few linux howtos but there was only 2-3 good ones. Check the FAQ/tutorial section of the bluez web page. |
| 18:30.23 | rwhitby | ok, was able to get the laptop to connect to the NAP on the slug |
| 18:30.50 | VoodooZ_Work | so you got your bnep0 interface now? |
| 18:31.28 | rwhitby | nop |
| 18:31.31 | VoodooZ_Work | my interfaces file has an "auto bnep0" line in it too. |
| 18:31.32 | rwhitby | nope |
| 18:31.59 | rwhitby | auto bnep0 |
| 18:32.00 | rwhitby | iface bnep0 inet static |
| 18:32.00 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.00 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.24 | Tiersten | rwhitby: hang on. isn't it some crazy time in the morning now for you? |
| 18:32.24 | rwhitby | ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo |
| 18:32.28 | VoodooZ_Work | yep. that's what I have. |
| 18:32.28 | rwhitby | 5am |
| 18:32.36 | VoodooZ_Work | ouch |
| 18:32.41 | Tiersten | you going to work today? :) |
| 18:32.53 | rwhitby | on a work call now |
| 18:33.03 | Tiersten | on a work call at 5am? ouch |
| 18:33.30 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby: Does "hcitool con" report a valid connection at least? |
| 18:33.58 | rwhitby | yes |
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| 18:34.15 | VoodooZ_Work | that's strange then as I don't remember having to do anything else. |
| 18:34.31 | VoodooZ_Work | And the slug is Master? |
| 18:35.24 | kergoth | hmm, i need to cleanup the gcc builds a bit |
| 18:35.32 | kergoth | i think i'll split the target gcc packaging .inc from the cross packaging |
| 18:35.32 | VoodooZ_Work | unfortunately I forgot to insert the bt dongle before leaving home this morning so I can't test anything. |
| 18:35.35 | rwhitby | root@nslu2:/proc# hcitool con |
| 18:35.36 | rwhitby | Connections: |
| 18:35.36 | rwhitby | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.36 | kergoth | make things a bit less confusing |
| 18:36.29 | VoodooZ_Work | and ifconfig bnep0 xxxxxxxxx still doesn't work? |
| 18:36.47 | VoodooZ_Work | I noticed a few seconds delays after I boot on my setup |
| 18:37.16 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_Work: I need sleep |
| 18:37.21 | rwhitby | will debug more tomorrow |
| 18:37.29 | rwhitby | I'm happy with the progress tonight |
| 18:37.31 | VoodooZ_Work | probably yeah. ANd I need a better memory! |
| 18:37.47 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, and you managed to fix my glibc problem too. |
| 18:37.59 | rwhitby | you will have tested it for me by then, and worked out what else I need to do |
| 18:38.17 | VoodooZ_Work | with bluez you mean? |
| 18:38.31 | rwhitby | yeah |
| 18:38.38 | rwhitby | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 18:38.39 | jbot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 18:38.45 | rwhitby | night all |
| 18:38.51 | VoodooZ_Work | night |
| 18:39.33 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby-asleep: I'll do a fresh build and test it out for you as soon as kergoth is done with the glibc stuff. |
| 18:40.09 | VoodooZ_Work | kergoth: Is the glibc fix already or was that another fix you pushed earlier? |
| 18:40.16 | kergoth | glibc fix? |
| 18:40.24 | kergoth | i dont know what one you're referring to there |
| 18:40.33 | VoodooZ_Work | the stuff rwhitby told you about. |
| 18:40.38 | kergoth | he told me about libgcc |
| 18:40.41 | kergoth | which has nothing at all to do with glibc |
| 18:40.43 | VoodooZ_Work | sorry. |
| 18:40.46 | VoodooZ_Work | my bad. |
| 18:40.53 | kergoth | but no, its not in yet |
| 18:40.55 | VoodooZ_Work | I just know I couldn't boot anymore. |
| 18:40.57 | VoodooZ_Work | ok. |
| 18:41.05 | VoodooZ_Work | I'll monitor #oe |
| 18:41.18 | kergoth | yes, good, the openslug discussions should be happening there. |
| 18:42.22 | VoodooZ_Work | is the fix simple or needs to be discussed with other OE fore-fathers. :) |
| 18:43.08 | kergoth | simple, just need to tweak gcc-package.inc |
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| 19:00.08 | ByronT | real life intrudes... later all |
| 19:08.04 | giel | siddy-away: teehee! |
| 19:08.12 | [g2] | hey giel ! |
| 19:08.52 | giel | fyi: there's an uefacup match between the team of my birthplace (went to a lot of their matches) and the team of aachen, where siddy lives |
| 19:09.27 | giel | siddy-away: i've been to the stadium you can see on tv now countless times |
| 19:09.35 | giel | like 4 seasons non-stop |
| 19:09.42 | siddy-away | I will take barbarious revenge an all those gddam dutchmen over there... :-( |
| 19:09.52 | siddy-away | really? cool! |
| 19:12.45 | giel | we're doing great in the competition, too |
| 19:12.47 | giel | 2nd place now |
| 19:14.04 | siddy-away | yeah, I heard of that. well... aken is 4th atm, in the 2nd league. ;-) |
| 19:16.52 | giel | pretty exciting last minutes |
| 19:17.50 | siddy-away | yeah... still 2 more minutes to go and we need only 1 goal! |
| 19:17.58 | siddy-away | common mighty soccer-god! |
| 19:18.12 | siddy-away | ;) |
| 19:19.54 | siddy-away | okay, I give up. You win, giel. :-\ |
| 19:20.03 | siddy-away | oh, over... *sniff* |
| 19:20.08 | giel | told you so! told you so! |
| 19:20.37 | siddy-away | but we almost did it... almost. |
| 19:20.41 | siddy-away | as every time. |
| 19:21.03 | giel | well, we're doing very good this year |
| 19:21.22 | giel | haven't been this good in european matches since 1984 or something |
| 19:21.30 | siddy-away | but hey, at least it will be a quite night in aachen, so I might get some sleep tonight! ;-) |
| 19:22.26 | giel | :) |
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| 20:27.16 | Gorx | hey peeps gotta prob with Samba Fail error any1 got any ideas as the wiki doesnt work for me |
| 20:29.06 | Tiersten | FFS. Read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FailSambaInformation |
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| 20:33.32 | beewoolie-away | Gorx: what does it mean "the wiki doesn't work for me" |
| 20:35.10 | Gorx | well ive done what it suggests and it doesnt work |
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| 21:04.19 | beewoolie | Gorx: I read that as "the suggestions on the wiki aren't working." The wiki itself isn't the problem. NP. |
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