| 00:03.02 | rwhitby-web | Folks, we have a new member of the nslu2-linux core team: jp30 is going to help out with Unslung package release management :-) |
| 00:03.48 | dyoung | ~congratulate jp30 |
| 00:03.50 | jbot | ACTION congratulates jp30 on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 00:03.59 | dyoung | heh |
| 00:04.06 | rwhitby-web | jbot, you're on drugs |
| 00:04.14 | kergoth_ | heh, you can tell a lot of jbots factoids were created in #handhelds.org |
| 00:04.17 | kergoth_ | ~brick rwhitby-web |
| 00:04.19 | jbot | ACTION installs a bad bootloader on rwhitby-web and turns rwhitby-web into a brick |
| 00:04.47 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 00:05.48 | rwhitby-web | jp30 (Josh) teaches at UC Davis; contributed apache and x11; and says that his greatest claim to fame is as the author of gdkxft and "the world's flags given letter grades" |
| 00:06.06 | rwhitby-web | ~praise jp30 |
| 00:06.09 | jbot | All hail jp30! |
| 00:06.45 | kergoth_ | my boss told me the other day that i should tell prospective employers to 'google for kergoth' on my resume |
| 00:06.49 | kergoth_ | i found this amusing |
| 00:06.55 | jp30 | you can find the worlds flags thing on my webpage btw. it has only led to a small number of death threats |
| 00:06.59 | rwhitby-web | ~google kergoth |
| 00:07.35 | rwhitby-web | you need a better PR agent, kergoth :-) |
| 00:07.45 | kergoth_ | heh, i should really create a personal web page |
| 00:07.51 | kergoth_ | i dont think i've had one since '95 |
| 00:08.22 | kergoth_ | ~stab monday |
| 00:08.26 | jbot | ACTION runs at monday with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 00:08.43 | rwhitby-web | lucky it's Tuesday here :-) |
| 00:08.56 | kergoth_ | nice |
| 00:08.57 | kergoth_ | today sucked |
| 00:09.00 | kergoth_ | even more than usual |
| 00:09.07 | kergoth_ | and thats saying something |
| 00:09.31 | ka6sox-away | ~monday |
| 00:09.32 | jbot | i guess monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 00:09.32 | kergoth_ | i think my life is becoming office space |
| 00:10.30 | dyoung | ~friday |
| 00:10.31 | jbot | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 00:10.41 | kergoth_ | so true |
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| 00:11.47 | dyoung | jp30, so having given Guam a F.. Did you receive any Chamorro Threats? |
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| 00:13.35 | jp30 | no, the peaceful people of Guam were relaxed about the whole thing. they probably liked that i said their flag would at least make a nice tea towel |
| 00:13.49 | dyoung | Cool, I was wondering about that. |
| 00:14.00 | jp30 | ...and wasn't obviously designed with MS frontpage |
| 00:14.08 | ka6sox-away | jp30, url for the flag page? |
| 00:14.25 | dyoung | http://ahpc-jp30.st-and.ac.uk/~josh/flags |
| 00:14.34 | dyoung | is the first google hit. |
| 00:15.13 | jp30 | ka6sox-away, what dyoung just said |
| 00:16.17 | jp30 | it's a couple of years old now, pre-Afghanistan and East Timor |
| 00:17.50 | jp30 | hmm... i notice the link to my homepage from the flags page is broken |
| 00:17.53 | rwhitby-web | colonial nonsense - how true .... (Australia gets a C) |
| 00:19.46 | rwhitby-web | philosophy.org.au ? |
| 00:21.13 | rwhitby-web | cool, I can attend in Adelaide .... |
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| 00:21.46 | jp30 | yes, i'm an academic philosopher... philosophy.org.au should be dead though, the aussie govt started charging for it |
| 00:22.28 | NSLU2-IRC | hi all. is this an appropriate place to ask really basic questions? |
| 00:22.36 | jp30 | eek! and those cyber-squatters at the school of philosophy got hold of it! |
| 00:22.51 | jp30 | they are NOT to do with me |
| 00:23.49 | rwhitby-web | LOL |
| 00:24.10 | rwhitby-web | NSLU2-IRC: you'll need to change your nick for a start .... |
| 00:24.51 | dyoung | I have that nick on permanent ignore. |
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| 00:26.01 | rwhitby-web | ok, later folks. |
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| 00:27.47 | coruscant | hi. i'll get straight to it. whenever I try to run screen it always asks "Please set a terminal type". how do i do this? |
| 00:30.58 | jp30 | coruscant, you want to set the TERM environment var |
| 00:31.58 | coruscant | erm ok. how do i do that? please have patience, i'm very new to all this :-( |
| 00:36.21 | jp30 | what program are you connecting to your slug with? putty? |
| 00:37.46 | coruscant | xp telnet |
| 00:38.19 | jp30 | ulch. try "TERM=ansi screen" |
| 00:41.50 | [g2] | jp30, Ok if I ssh in TERM=xterm and all works fine, on the serial connection TERM=linux and it appears like a 25x80 screen fixed |
| 00:42.06 | [g2] | it's there something else I should be doing for that ? |
| 00:42.23 | [g2] | s/it's/is/ |
| 00:44.11 | jp30 | [g2], not sure what the problem is there. what terminal program do you use with your serial connection? |
| 00:45.04 | [g2] | minicom |
| 00:45.23 | jp30 | TERM=linux is unlikely to be right for minicom |
| 00:47.23 | jp30 | man page for minicom suggests it has a built in restriction to 24 lines |
| 00:48.13 | jp30 | ...and it is an ANSI terminal, so TERM=ansi |
| 00:48.28 | ka6sox-away | jp30, you homepage needs updating ;) |
| 00:48.49 | [g2] | I'll have to check that and maybe change terminal programs |
| 00:48.54 | [g2] | thx |
| 00:49.01 | jp30 | ka6sox-away, are you looking at my wiki page on weka.ucdavis.edu? |
| 00:49.16 | jp30 | ... man of many homepages |
| 00:49.21 | ka6sox-away | philosophy.au |
| 00:50.01 | jp30 | yes that does need updating :) you followed the link from the flags page? |
| 00:50.20 | ka6sox-away | yes |
| 00:50.39 | ka6sox-away | and weka is even better....like watching a test pattern on late nite TV |
| 00:51.19 | dyoung | Nah it looks like a winning flag. |
| 00:51.45 | ka6sox-away | I'm surprised that Albania scored so high... |
| 00:51.50 | jp30 | you are looking at the root of weka, aren't you. try weka.ucdavis.edu/~jp30 |
| 00:52.23 | ka6sox-away | good. |
| 00:54.05 | jp30 | weka is my office desktop, a lot of what's on it is in transition from my old job at arche-wiki.st-and.ac.uk |
| 00:54.43 | jp30 | no-one at St Andrews was competent to keep running the project's wiki so I carried it with to me to california |
| 00:55.45 | coruscant | still no luck. i've type in TERM='ansi screen' and all sorts, still no luck. i'm even using PUTTY to see if that helps. |
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| 00:57.42 | jp30 | coruscant, you need to type "TERM=ansi screen" without the quotes. it means "run screen with TERM set to ansi"; you shouldn't have this problem with putty, though, it should set TERM appropriately |
| 01:00.51 | jp30 | OK, folks, I've gotta go... see y'all later... |
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| 02:27.09 | jacques | C+ ????? |
| 02:27.15 | jacques | oh he left |
| 02:27.22 | Tiersten | ? |
| 02:27.34 | jacques | he gave the USA flag a C+ |
| 02:27.41 | Tiersten | ah |
| 02:27.43 | jacques | I was going to threaten his life |
| 02:27.53 | Tiersten | heh |
| 02:30.01 | jacques | I kinda like Bhutan - any flag with a dragon on it gets my vote |
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| 02:44.19 | ka6sox-away | I like the eagle thingy on the Albanian flag. |
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| 02:56.31 | CIA-11 | 03unslung * 10unslung/Makefile: Demoted gtk (fails to build in demos: /bin/sh: line 1: no: command not found) |
| 03:01.25 | rpedde | I'm looking for a workaround for something on the slug... Normally, I'd do: "someting | dd bs=1 skip=offset ibs=1024 obs=1024" to skip to an offset in a stream. But busybox doesn't honor ibs and obs. Anybody have a good idea for a workaround? |
| 03:01.43 | rpedde | Basically, I'm just trying to position to a specific position in a stream, and do it efficiently. |
| 03:02.24 | Tiersten | Use bs= |
| 03:02.46 | rpedde | bs=offset, skip 1? |
| 03:03.22 | Tiersten | bs=1 and ibs=1024 obs=1024 doesn't make sense |
| 03:03.41 | Tiersten | dd bs=1024 skip=2 |
| 03:03.45 | Tiersten | would skip the first 2048 bytes |
| 03:03.52 | rpedde | I'm just trying to skip offset bytes, but read and write from the streams in 1K chunks, rather than 1 byte chunks |
| 03:04.00 | Tiersten | can't do that |
| 03:04.05 | Tiersten | not with the busybox one |
| 03:04.19 | rpedde | well, yeah... that's why I'm looking for a workaround. :) |
| 03:04.33 | Tiersten | download and compile the full GNU dd :) |
| 03:04.55 | Tiersten | didn't even know you could skip and read/write a different block size |
| 03:04.58 | rpedde | This is a stream that gets fopened... without ibs and obs, dd takes like 55% cpu just moving single bytes at a time |
| 03:05.18 | Tiersten | you can't modify the client program? |
| 03:05.47 | jacques | install coreutils |
| 03:06.24 | rpedde | But coreutils conflicts with busybox, and I wouldn't want a simple program to require someone to do something as drastic as remove busybox and install coreutils |
| 03:07.39 | rpedde | I sort of have control of the client program, but basically it's doing on-the-fly transcoding of ogg to wav. The "transcoding script" gets a filename and offset to position to. |
| 03:08.12 | rpedde | The script (on the linux side) is just "oggdec $1 | dd bs=1 skip=offset $2 ibs=1024 obs=1024" |
| 03:08.14 | Tiersten | ah |
| 03:08.23 | Tiersten | you trying to strip off the RIFF header? |
| 03:08.24 | rpedde | But without ibs and obs, it's *way* too painful |
| 03:08.45 | rpedde | Nope... if seeking from iTunes, daap gives you a bytewise offset to seek to |
| 03:08.55 | Tiersten | ohh |
| 03:09.35 | Tiersten | well. you could extract dd from the coreutils package and rename it if you don't want to change everything around |
| 03:09.43 | Tiersten | it's a bit unportable however |
| 03:09.56 | rpedde | On a bright note, I did get a vorbistools packages and hacked up the integer decoding library into oggdec, so it at least only takes 2 minutes to decode a 5 min song rather than 45 minutes. :) |
| 03:10.14 | Tiersten | heh |
| 03:10.16 | Tiersten | tremor? |
| 03:10.18 | rpedde | ya |
| 03:10.24 | rpedde | libvorbisidec |
| 03:10.35 | garpinc | rpedde I ported transcode. Will that help? |
| 03:11.44 | rpedde | garpinc even with a transcode package, I'm still left with the same problem. How to seek from a stream, and do it without huge CPU |
| 03:12.07 | rpedde | I was just hoping someone knew a simple shell script trick or something. |
| 03:12.34 | rpedde | If you did bs=offset skip=1, would it do reads and writes of bs from the input and output streams? Or would it still do 1 byte reads? |
| 03:14.45 | Tiersten | it should do offset sized reads and writes |
| 03:24.57 | rpedde | grumble... might be easier to just make it non-seekable. |
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| 05:02.50 | samms71 | hi all, need some help building unslung. i have the env setup..bitbake unslung-image but nothing shows up in the /build/tmp directory...tried several times. bitbake goes well w/o problems...also i get the idea behind bitkeeper but where is teh source code that the patches are being applied to? i mean, where is the base unslung/linksys source tree? |
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| 05:15.57 | CIA-11 | 03kin-kwok * 10unslung/ (6 files in 2 dirs): rewrite scripts for slugbug #102 |
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| 05:20.12 | rpedde | Uh.... what do you do when you run out of space on your conf partition? |
| 05:22.45 | rwhitby-web | use /sbin/unsling hdd-data instead of /sbin/unsling hdd |
| 05:25.32 | rpedde | If I unsling with my unslung hdd, it should copy /opt from hdd to hdd-data, right? So after that, should I get rid of the /opt dir on the conf partition? |
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| 06:08.00 | rwhitby-web | rpedde: I doubt that it will transfer from /share/hdd/conf/{opt/usr} to /share/hdd/data/{opt,usr} - you will need to do that yourself. |
| 06:09.06 | rpedde | rwhitby-web: yup. it didn't. I did. woohoo! Thanks. |
| 06:13.09 | rwhitby-web | np |
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| 06:22.03 | CIA-11 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (4 files in 2 dirs): vte: initial checkin |
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| 06:33.41 | ka6sox-away | jp30: ping |
| 06:33.50 | jp30 | pong |
| 06:34.39 | ka6sox-away | got the key...uploading |
| 06:34.40 | ka6sox-away | thanks |
| 06:34.54 | jp30 | ah, good! |
| 06:54.19 | CIA-11 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/gtk.mk sources/gtk/test-inline-pixbufs.h): fix problems cross-building gtk without host gdk-pixbuf-csource |
| 07:05.44 | garpinc | jp30.... What's the deal with freetype? |
| 07:05.58 | garpinc | I don't see sources/freetype in cvs.. |
| 07:07.03 | jp30 | that's because there'd be nothing in it... freetype needs no patches and the control file is generated by freetype.mk |
| 07:08.11 | jp30 | look at freetype.mk to see how its done. saves hassle of keeping .mk and control in sync |
| 07:09.11 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/ (5 files in 3 dirs): transcode stuff |
| 07:09.59 | garpinc | Thanks jp30... |
| 07:10.34 | garpinc | I just built freetype independently for transcode and just figured out you already built it. |
| 07:10.46 | jp30 | doh! |
| 07:10.57 | jp30 | hope my build does all you want |
| 07:10.59 | garpinc | I know... 2nd time i've done that... |
| 07:11.17 | garpinc | I hope so too. You just did standard build right? |
| 07:12.22 | jp30 | think so... pretty standard. the main difficulty with freetype is getting programs that depend on it to behave themselves and not get distracted by the host environment |
| 07:15.43 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/Makefile: transcode and supporting libs |
| 07:16.00 | garpinc | Well we'll see.. |
| 07:17.25 | garpinc | jp30... What I had to patch transcode to get it to work with freetype. Maybe you have a better option. |
| 07:17.42 | garpinc | s/What/Well |
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| 07:19.38 | CIA-11 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/Makefile: xvid lib |
| 07:23.38 | rwhitby-away | samms71: jp30 has put an apache and php packages in the cvs repository - can you compare them with yours and see if they will do the trick for you? |
| 07:24.00 | samms71 | sure... |
| 07:24.19 | samms71 | do you know what rev? apache & php? |
| 07:24.21 | jp30 | samms71, they are apache 2.0 and php 4.3 |
| 07:24.26 | samms71 | thx.. |
| 07:24.42 | samms71 | did you manage to build php as a shared lib? |
| 07:24.52 | jp30 | pear is missing, but i can get it working if you need it; yes, all is shared |
| 07:25.11 | garpinc | rwhitby-away I checked in and specified tested for transcode and related libraries... |
| 07:25.14 | samms71 | (jp30) great!!! |
| 07:25.48 | samms71 | (rwhitby) i'll get it right now and give it a whirl w/ gallery... |
| 07:27.09 | samms71 | btw...to anyone..i setupa box w/ gentoo running on colinux to build unslung-image and it works (i.e. it makes images) but where is the source code? I've searched around and don't see where the base files are. i want to modify teh ipx4xx files to "fatten" my slug. |
| 07:28.07 | samms71 | (jp30) where does the ipkg install apache/php to ? /opt? |
| 07:28.30 | jp30 | samms71, yes, you'll find the configuration in /opt/etc/apache2 |
| 07:28.47 | samms71 | k |
| 07:28.52 | jp30 | i used the GNU layout |
| 07:30.08 | jp30 | garpinc, i take it this means you've succeeded in attaching a DVD reader to your slug? |
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| 07:32.48 | jp30 | garpinc, ffmpeg's makefile doesn't obey DESTDIR, it tries to write to the host's /opt directory at staging time |
| 07:33.00 | garpinc | jp30 no it just means that transcode default config prefers that libdvdread is enabled. But in theory I think it's possible. bob_tm has been able to get all kinds of things working. |
| 07:34.15 | garpinc | jp30 I'll take a look at that... In the middle of trying to build ghostscript... |
| 07:34.42 | jp30 | ghostscript... nice! |
| 07:35.21 | jp30 | more details about ffmpeg: the trouble is when it tries to install man pages during staging |
| 07:37.08 | garpinc | Is that all that it writes there? |
| 07:37.13 | garpinc | just man pages? |
| 07:40.02 | jp30 | that was the first thing it tried to write... |
| 07:41.24 | jp30 | ...and died because it didn't have write access to /opt |
| 07:42.17 | garpinc | good idea... Mine has write access... That's why it worked for me... I'll have to see what it put in there. |
| 07:43.07 | jp30 | garpinc, looks to me like ffmpeg just doesn't support DESTDIR at all, you may need to stage it manually (and build an ipk manually when the time comes!) |
| 07:44.20 | garpinc | For some reason it seemed to stage okay for transcode.. I'll have to see what happened.. |
| 07:45.46 | jp30 | you might have better luck manipulating prefix rather than DESTDIR |
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| 08:13.59 | samms71 | jp30, well the apache2 works - it does seem to use more memory than version 1.3.33 |
| 08:14.27 | samms71 | works w/ gallery that is... |
| 08:14.42 | garpinc | jp30 the prefix is already in make file. |
| 08:14.44 | jp30 | samms71, try disabling some of the modules |
| 08:15.22 | samms71 | jp30, thx...i just thought of that as well. |
| 08:17.46 | jp30 | garpinc, not sure what you mean |
| 08:19.15 | CIA-1 | 03garpinc * 10unslung/make/ffmpeg.mk: added mandir |
| 08:19.19 | garpinc | jp30 try that... |
| 08:20.38 | garpinc | I think fundementally configure must be guessing wrong because config.mak has all the wrong values. Seems to work if I override. |
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| 08:21.20 | jp30 | garpinc, am cvs updating... hang on... |
| 08:22.08 | garpinc | ok... it's 3:21 here so gotta go to bed soon so I can make it to work tommorow... I'll wait a few.. |
| 08:23.56 | garpinc | are u updating just my make file or everything? |
| 08:24.33 | jp30 | now rebuilding ffmpeg, nearly there |
| 08:25.33 | garpinc | r we on the super duper new build machine yet? |
| 08:25.35 | jp30 | that's better, no errors |
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| 08:26.03 | garpinc | great.. |
| 08:26.32 | garpinc | r we done or r u trying something else? |
| 08:27.18 | jp30 | garpinc, done for now I think, I need to get to bed soon too |
| 08:27.28 | garpinc | ok see ya.. |
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| 08:30.50 | perlguru-work | morning |
| 08:36.10 | ka6sox-laptop | morning |
| 09:14.37 | perlguru-work | VoodooZ_log: thanx for fixing the ipkg-native problem. I'll try this tonight! |
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| 10:20.57 | perlguru-work | I saw something strange upgrading openssh: during config it disconnected the ssh-session and upgrade was interrupted.... |
| 10:21.32 | perlguru-work | so a new ipkg upgraded will reupgrade openssh |
| 10:22.16 | perlguru-work | also it overwrites my /opt/etc/openssh/sshd_config |
| 10:25.03 | rwhitby-away | you need to add it to CONFFILES in the openssh.mk then ... |
| 10:26.53 | rwhitby-away | hmm openssh.mk needs to be updated to match the template first ... |
| 10:36.04 | perlguru-work | grrr, now i cannot login anymore. need to reboot. from a distance :( |
| 10:37.52 | rwhitby-away | bummer. openssh predates where we worked out conffiles, and no-one has taken the time to update it. |
| 10:41.51 | perlguru-work | i am not able to do it now (i am at work, you know) |
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| 12:44.37 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2842.1.1 10openembedded/ (5 files in 5 dirs): OpenSlug-1.2-alpha: Changed the kernel config so that whatever is required to support an external USB hard disk is compiled into the kernel. |
| 12:49.16 | giel | rwhitby: nice! |
| 12:49.52 | rwhitby | if you touch /.recovery, you will drop into a recovery shell where you can mount ext3 external disks. |
| 12:49.53 | giel | rwhitby: so, that is usbcore, ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd, sd & usb_storage? |
| 12:49.58 | rwhitby | yeah |
| 12:50.05 | rwhitby | and ext3 and jbd |
| 12:50.36 | rwhitby | preparation for switchbox pivoting to external disks and nfsroot for openslug |
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| 12:52.08 | giel | how big is that kernel? |
| 12:52.19 | rwhitby | 10k under max size |
| 12:52.23 | rwhitby | (1MB) |
| 12:52.29 | giel | heh |
| 12:52.35 | giel | maybe we can kick some stuff out |
| 12:52.49 | giel | 'cause last time i checked, there was deprecated stuff taking up space |
| 12:53.36 | rwhitby | anything that's not required in switchbox can be made into a module ... |
| 12:54.01 | giel | yeah, but there was also some debugging stuff and /proc/pci stuff and the likes |
| 12:54.42 | Tiersten | The PCI device name database is already off |
| 12:54.47 | rwhitby | can you make a list on the wiki, so we can act on it if we need to? |
| 12:54.53 | giel | i'll pull the latest defconfig tonight and check it out |
| 12:55.01 | rwhitby | cool. thx. |
| 12:55.37 | giel | argh! i've pre-ordered this book, which was released today, and i _still_ don't have it! |
| 12:55.40 | giel | :) |
| 12:55.49 | Tiersten | heh. what book is it? |
| 12:56.13 | rwhitby | it must be a day for things not turning up - my bluetooth dongle won't get here till tomorrow now ... |
| 12:56.15 | giel | o'reilly's linux device drivers, 3rd ed |
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| 13:01.12 | rwhitby | now I need to add mke2fs, cpio, find, and portmap to switchbox - wonder if they will all fit |
| 13:01.25 | rwhitby | cpio is 53180 |
| 13:01.27 | giel | oh you want nfs support too? |
| 13:01.33 | giel | in switchb |
| 13:02.00 | rwhitby | probably not - it's not going to fit |
| 13:02.08 | rwhitby | we can do that in the jffs2 linuxrc |
| 13:02.43 | rwhitby | find is 97216 |
| 13:02.51 | giel | or enlarge switchbox |
| 13:03.24 | rwhitby | no, I meant the kernel support |
| 13:03.58 | giel | ah |
| 13:04.06 | giel | modules? |
| 13:04.33 | giel | hm, why did you include all the usb disk stuff instead of keeping them as module? |
| 13:05.10 | rwhitby | recovery purposes |
| 13:05.25 | rwhitby | reload your jffs2 from an external disk image when the jffs2 is hosed |
| 13:06.03 | rwhitby | or boot from a recovery disk when you've screwed up your jffs2 init scripts, or lost the password |
| 13:06.59 | giel | rwhitby: but you can include them as modules in switchbox |
| 13:07.02 | giel | keeps the kernel size down |
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| 13:07.49 | rwhitby | but then we would need to have two switchboxes. at the moment we have a single switchbox which supports both unslung and openslug |
| 13:08.44 | rwhitby | development and maintenance effort is more precious than kernel size at the moment :-) |
| 13:10.40 | giel | understood |
| 13:11.29 | rwhitby | if we go over the 1MB kernel, and can't get rid of unused stuff, then we'll have to fork switchbox ... |
| 13:11.47 | rwhitby | anyone know which OE package contains mke2fs? |
| 13:12.14 | Tiersten | nope sorry |
| 13:13.34 | giel | rwhitby: but, as i said, i'll check the config tonight |
| 13:20.03 | rwhitby | hmm - I should enable all the bluetooth modules while I am there ..... |
| 13:21.16 | perlguru-work | what about QoS and printer stuff? |
| 13:21.42 | rwhitby | it's already there in openslug |
| 13:21.53 | rwhitby | (which is what I am referring to ...) |
| 13:21.58 | perlguru-work | 1 more reason to switch to openslug :) |
| 13:24.40 | giel | rwhitby: qos is in modules, right? |
| 13:24.48 | rwhitby | giel: I expect that to be able to enable bluetooth modules, we'll need more than the 10k spare at the moment, so your review of the defconfig will be appreciated |
| 13:25.06 | rwhitby | ooh - no it's not |
| 13:26.50 | giel | rwhitby: i'll be thorough... like, who on earth needs 4 different i/o schedulers? |
| 13:27.02 | giel | rwhitby: anticipatory or deadline is enough |
| 13:27.17 | giel | rwhitby: nobody ever uses noop, and cfq is undergoing a refactoring anyway |
| 13:27.46 | giel | rwhitby: and i think, for slug purposes being uniprocessor and slow, deadline is the best |
| 13:28.02 | giel | rwhitby: maybe good to switch to deadline sched instead of anticipatory anyhow |
| 13:28.08 | rwhitby | can you put your recommendations here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelConfig ? |
| 13:28.14 | giel | will do |
| 13:28.18 | rwhitby | thx |
| 13:30.52 | rwhitby | well. my work here is done. |
| 13:30.55 | rwhitby | night all |
| 13:32.19 | kolla | hihi, now we have a unslug-mailing list here at work, since we're so many with nslu2 |
| 13:34.20 | rwhitby-asleep | mke2fs is 94684 |
| 13:35.10 | rwhitby-asleep | 239 blocks for cpio + find + mke2fs in switchbox |
| 13:35.29 | rwhitby-asleep | # df |
| 13:35.29 | rwhitby-asleep | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 13:35.29 | rwhitby-asleep | . /dev/mtdblock0 955 395 560 41% / |
| 13:35.40 | rwhitby-asleep | should be doable |
| 13:35.47 | Tiersten | cool |
| 13:37.51 | rwhitby-asleep | might even be room for some mtd_utils in there too .... |
| 13:41.32 | perlguru-work | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugStatus is out of date |
| 13:42.13 | kolla | really? nice :) |
| 13:43.10 | rwhitby-asleep | kolla: status is on the mailing list - [g2] sent an update today |
| 13:43.58 | kolla | oh, I thought perhaps "alpha state" wa out-dated :) |
| 13:44.02 | kolla | was |
| 13:45.21 | rwhitby-asleep | there's a spare spot in the alpha testers database just waiting for your name .... |
| 13:45.31 | kolla | I see :) |
| 13:45.56 | Tiersten | ?? |
| 13:51.24 | rwhitby-asleep | # mke2fs -q /dev/sda1 |
| 13:51.24 | rwhitby-asleep | ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/sda1 is mounted. |
| 13:51.24 | rwhitby-asleep | # |
| 13:51.33 | rwhitby-asleep | From inside the switchbox recovery shell ... |
| 13:52.00 | rwhitby-asleep | (it works - the error is spurious) |
| 13:53.25 | rwhitby-asleep | # echo > /etc/mtab |
| 13:53.25 | rwhitby-asleep | # mke2fs -q /dev/sda |
| 13:53.25 | rwhitby-asleep | # |
| 13:53.47 | VoodooZ_Work | morning |
| 13:53.54 | rwhitby-asleep | morning VoodooZ_Work |
| 13:53.55 | perlguru-work | hi VoodooZ_Work |
| 13:54.01 | perlguru-work | VoodooZ_Work: thanx |
| 13:54.03 | VoodooZ_Work | what's new boys? |
| 13:54.10 | VoodooZ_Work | perlguru-work: Got my message? |
| 13:54.18 | rwhitby-asleep | OpenSlug-1.2-alpha ... |
| 13:54.18 | VoodooZ_Work | I mean posting. |
| 13:54.20 | perlguru-work | yep, send me an email ;) |
| 13:54.20 | Tiersten | rwhitby-asleep: Use -F |
| 13:54.24 | VoodooZ_Work | no way! already? |
| 13:54.41 | VoodooZ_Work | perlguru-work, actually, did you see my posting? |
| 13:54.57 | VoodooZ_Work | damn, I'm still asleep, I meant comment in the log |
| 13:55.03 | perlguru-work | yes, i did an di send a email to myself with the fix ;) |
| 13:55.22 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby-asleep: What's new in 1.2? |
| 13:55.30 | VoodooZ_Work | works great eh? |
| 13:55.36 | kolla | is there a chance to boot openslug without needing a serial console yet? |
| 13:55.42 | VoodooZ_Work | My build now finishes in 31 minutes flat! |
| 13:56.03 | perlguru-work | VoodooZ_Work: did not try it yet, because i am still at work. |
| 13:56.17 | VoodooZ_Work | cool. Let me know. |
| 13:56.33 | perlguru-work | i'll try in about 2/2.5 hours |
| 13:56.36 | VoodooZ_Work | CosmicPenguin said the package has been hosed for a while. |
| 13:56.56 | VoodooZ_Work | somebody suggested to try a newer version that pulls back some changes but I didn't bother. I use the old old. |
| 13:57.32 | VoodooZ_Work | It's really thanks to kergoth as he's the one that refered me to CosmicPenguin in the first place. |
| 13:57.37 | rwhitby-asleep | VoodooZ_Work: modules for external hard disk support are now compiled into the kernel so that switchbox can pivot to an external disk - not much interest for you :-) |
| 13:58.18 | rwhitby-asleep | since I expect the vodoozlug distro will have it's own defconfig ... |
| 13:58.31 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby-asleep: still pretty cool though. |
| 13:58.43 | VoodooZ_Work | definitely will! |
| 13:58.47 | giel | rwhitby is pretty cool, that's why :) |
| 13:58.56 | VoodooZ_Work | damn right |
| 13:59.02 | giel | hell yeah |
| 13:59.13 | VoodooZ_Work | hip hip oohray for rwhitby! |
| 13:59.18 | rwhitby-asleep | still some work to be done on switchbox before we will be able to pivot out to disk, but it looks doable |
| 13:59.21 | giel | ~hail rwhitby |
| 13:59.23 | jbot | ACTION bows down to rwhitby and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:59.23 | perlguru-work | ~praise rwhitby-asleep |
| 13:59.25 | jbot | All hail rwhitby-asleep! |
| 13:59.43 | rwhitby-asleep | aww stop it. |
| 13:59.45 | perlguru-work | ~praise [g2] |
| 13:59.48 | jbot | All hail [g2]! |
| 13:59.53 | VoodooZ_Work | I second that! |
| 14:00.00 | perlguru-work | ~praise giel |
| 14:00.03 | jbot | All hail giel! |
| 14:00.05 | perlguru-work | ~praise siddy |
| 14:00.10 | jbot | All hail siddy! |
| 14:00.10 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe |
| 14:00.10 | giel | ~praise all |
| 14:00.15 | jbot | All hail all! |
| 14:00.30 | VoodooZ_Work | wow! My first praise! |
| 14:00.42 | perlguru-work | ~praise VoodooZ_Work |
| 14:00.44 | jbot | All hail VoodooZ_Work! |
| 14:00.48 | rwhitby-asleep | for user in #nslu2-linux ; do ~praise user ; done |
| 14:00.58 | perlguru-work | :D |
| 14:01.06 | giel | you forgot a $ there :) |
| 14:01.38 | giel | and user is not the best variable to use in shell scripts |
| 14:01.40 | perlguru-work | and a do...done block ;) |
| 14:01.46 | VoodooZ_Work | rwhitby-asleep: I noticed you guys added UHCI_USB to the kernel. That's wrong. It's mostly used on x86 PC |
| 14:01.48 | giel | as it is already defined |
| 14:01.53 | VoodooZ_Work | thanks, perlguru-work |
| 14:01.54 | rwhitby-asleep | no, I was just heaping lots of praise on "user" :-) |
| 14:02.08 | Tiersten | VoodooZ_Work: ? |
| 14:02.16 | giel | VoodooZ_Work: i'm gonna check on the openslug defconfig tonight |
| 14:02.23 | Tiersten | The NEC USB controller is a EHCI + UHCI |
| 14:02.30 | giel | VoodooZ_Work: but you're right, only ohci and ehci are needed |
| 14:02.33 | Tiersten | It's the correct driver for USB1 |
| 14:02.51 | Tiersten | Hang on |
| 14:02.53 | VoodooZ_Work | Well, I never used it. and my USB 1&2 devices work fine. I only have OHCI and EHCI. |
| 14:02.56 | Tiersten | Is it OHCI or UHCI? |
| 14:02.59 | giel | OHCI |
| 14:03.04 | Tiersten | ah |
| 14:03.05 | VoodooZ_Work | OHCI. |
| 14:03.11 | Tiersten | UHCI is the Intel one |
| 14:03.23 | VoodooZ_Work | I had to to research it a few months ago as my USB 1.1 BT dongle wouldn't start |
| 14:03.24 | Tiersten | Oddly enough, UHCI is enabled in the stock kernel |
| 14:03.26 | VoodooZ_Work | yep |
| 14:03.33 | VoodooZ_Work | lazyness perhaps. |
| 14:03.41 | giel | ok, got a meeting now |
| 14:03.44 | giel | bbl |
| 14:03.46 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm a performance freak so every byte counts. |
| 14:03.52 | Tiersten | Fair enough. Need to change the config to OHCI instead of UHCI :) |
| 14:04.06 | VoodooZ_Work | I'll give it a spin after to test it out. |
| 14:05.03 | Tiersten | I wasn't paying enough attention to notice that it was loading UHCI which was wrong. Oops |
| 14:05.12 | rwhitby-asleep | so I want EHCI and OHCI compiled in, and UHCI as module, correct? |
| 14:05.21 | VoodooZ_Work | no problem there. I did the same thing. that's why I know. |
| 14:05.28 | Tiersten | UHCI off probably |
| 14:05.34 | VoodooZ_Work | Well, I'm not even sure you need it as a module actually. |
| 14:05.36 | Tiersten | Sorry. dyoung was kidna right |
| 14:05.39 | Tiersten | kinda |
| 14:05.42 | VoodooZ_Work | hehe |
| 14:05.45 | Tiersten | If you use the slave port then you don't even use UHCI |
| 14:06.01 | Tiersten | You use the USB Gadget modules if you want to use the slave port |
| 14:06.14 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, unless the unused ports are use but that I don't know. |
| 14:06.18 | rwhitby-asleep | it was a module before, so I'll leave it as a module |
| 14:06.28 | VoodooZ_Work | safer |
| 14:06.30 | Tiersten | k. sorry for the misinfo :) |
| 14:06.40 | VoodooZ_Work | no harm done. |
| 14:06.55 | VoodooZ_Work | I love this IRC thing. |
| 14:07.03 | VoodooZ_Work | A big community. |
| 14:07.13 | VoodooZ_Work | Just helping each other out. |
| 14:07.34 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2846 10openembedded/packages/linux/openslug-kernel-2.6.9/defconfig: Don't need UHCI compiled into switchbox after all |
| 14:07.54 | Tiersten | verklempted? |
| 14:08.04 | VoodooZ_Work | hehehe I know. I spelled really fast |
| 14:08.29 | VoodooZ_Work | it's a fancy word that means you are sad or something. |
| 14:09.07 | rwhitby-asleep | rwhitby@a11375-lnx:/home/slug/switchbox$ ls -l tmp/deploy/images/ |
| 14:09.08 | rwhitby-asleep | total 884 |
| 14:09.08 | rwhitby-asleep | -rw-r--r-- 1 rwhitby rwhitby 212795 Feb 21 21:39 switchbox-nslu2-20050221085719.rootfs.ext2.gz |
| 14:09.08 | rwhitby-asleep | -rw-r--r-- 1 rwhitby rwhitby 680584 Feb 23 00:18 switchbox-nslu2-20050222132638.rootfs.ext2.gz |
| 14:09.09 | VoodooZ_Work | actually, It's not a real word. |
| 14:09.23 | VoodooZ_Work | I did a search and it's mostly an invented from saturday night live. |
| 14:09.24 | rwhitby-asleep | hmm - looks like I need to trim down the new switchbox a bit :-) |
| 14:09.37 | VoodooZ_Work | ouch |
| 14:10.00 | VoodooZ_Work | the more flexibily, the more space. |
| 14:10.50 | rwhitby-asleep | might have to pivot through jffs2 to get to external hard disk ... |
| 14:11.15 | rwhitby-asleep | anyway, a problem for tomorrow |
| 14:11.28 | VoodooZ_Work | yep. Great work. |
| 14:14.32 | rwhitby-asleep | ahh - I forgot to force them all to static linked like I did for switchbox's busybox. wonder if that will make it smaller or larger .... |
| 14:14.53 | Tiersten | I thought there were problems regarding statically linked binaries? |
| 14:14.59 | Tiersten | It would make them larger anyway |
| 14:15.28 | rwhitby-asleep | not necessarily - they may not be using most of uClibC and other other libraries that get pulled in |
| 14:16.50 | Tiersten | Depends on whether overhead per binary < the size of the shared lib I guess |
| 15:00.47 | perlguru-work | giel: http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/index.html |
| 15:02.33 | perlguru-work | samba: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html |
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| 15:05.58 | perlguru-work | well some more books: http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/ |
| 15:08.05 | perlguru-work | bye, going home now.... |
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| 16:37.00 | Gorx | hey |
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| 16:37.34 | Gorx | any1? |
| 16:37.44 | Gorx | gotta prob with Samba |
| 16:39.28 | perlguru | samba doc: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html |
| 16:40.11 | Gorx | yeah but whenever i go on the web interface of my slug it says 'cannot get samba info' |
| 16:41.55 | perlguru | dunno |
| 16:44.57 | glc-work | Check the mail list archives. It has been discussed before. |
| 16:46.41 | Tiersten | It's in the wiki |
| 16:47.04 | Tiersten | Look in the HowTo page in the troubleshooting section |
| 16:49.08 | perlguru | VoodooZ_Work, it worked. ipkg-native is build |
| 16:49.13 | VoodooZ_Work | good. |
| 16:49.29 | VoodooZ_Work | I ran in some new unrelated problem in my case so the fun never ends :) |
| 16:49.44 | perlguru | :) |
| 16:49.56 | perlguru | *happy happy joy joy* |
| 16:50.11 | VoodooZ_Work | [g2], rwhitby: I don't know if it's related to the latest changes but I'm getting this on bootup now: |
| 16:50.12 | VoodooZ_Work | /sbin/init: error while loading shared Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 16:50.13 | VoodooZ_Work | libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot op en shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:50.46 | VoodooZ_Work | This happens right after the VFS line and Freeing init memory: 80K lines. |
| 16:51.38 | VoodooZ_Work | Keep in mind that I've started putting in my privates changes so It might just be me but I doubt it as I only added some bluetooth stuff and all. |
| 17:00.41 | giel | that's a problem with the rootfs/kernel command line/switchbox |
| 17:00.46 | giel | a combination of those |
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| 17:55.19 | Gorx | hey peeps |
| 17:55.22 | Gorx | hey bron |
| 17:55.24 | Gorx | byron |
| 17:55.31 | Gorx | got another prob |
| 18:00.33 | VoodooZ_lunch | giel: Really? |
| 18:01.02 | VoodooZ_lunch | I'm not even supposed to be using switchbox though as I'm overriding it on the command line as suggested by [g2] to boot jffs2 directly |
| 18:01.07 | kergoth_ | VoodooZ_lunch: iirc there's a bug in the shlibdeps handling that occasionally results in libgcc not ending up in packages Depends when it should be. it usually isnt a problem, since it generally ends up being pulled into the image at some point |
| 18:04.08 | VoodooZ_lunch | euh? |
| 18:04.23 | VoodooZ_lunch | And how come is it a problem for me?? badluck? |
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| 18:05.50 | ByronT | hmm... either the beeping is off or the music is too loud for me to hear the laptop beeping |
| 18:06.33 | ByronT | Gorx, why don't ya head over to #nslu2-general |
| 18:07.01 | kergoth_ | VoodooZ_work: might want to ask pb_, he may recall the details |
| 18:09.34 | VoodooZ_work | Thanks kergoth_. I'll check with [g2] and rwhitby later too as they made lots of changes yesterday. |
| 18:10.43 | kergoth_ | np |
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| 18:18.32 | peterroubos | anybody here that installed apache/php and is running gallery and wants to tell me something about Netpbm or ImageMagick? |
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| 18:20.48 | perlguru | ~nslu2-general |
| 18:20.49 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 18:24.57 | ka6sox-laptop | time for work...bbl |
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| 18:38.14 | Spooky8577 | Hi! How can I cross-compile some kernel modules with other settings than this from OE? |
| 18:38.55 | kergoth | "with other settings than this"? |
| 18:39.01 | kergoth | than what? |
| 18:39.03 | kergoth | settings? |
| 18:39.24 | Spooky8577 | I need a nfsd module with support for rsize=32768 |
| 18:39.54 | Spooky8577 | I know that I must enable MAXBLKSIZE in const.h |
| 18:39.59 | kergoth | okay, and? is that a configuration option in the kenrel, or do you need to apply a patch, or what? |
| 18:40.10 | kergoth | okay, so you need to patch the kernel tree oe builds from. |
| 18:41.31 | Spooky8577 | How can I patch it, it's enough to change the ... /cross/armeb ... tree and then recompile? |
| 18:41.43 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:42.51 | ByronT | kergoth, check pm |
| 18:43.52 | Spooky8577 | I have get OE to work. I can build with bitbake an image. After building this image, there are some new paths |
| 18:44.21 | Spooky8577 | like /home/slug/build/tmp/deploy ..... |
| 18:45.08 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:45.30 | ByronT | Spooky8577, you should probably check the nslu2-linux mailing list |
| 18:46.06 | Spooky8577 | @ByronT ok! |
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| 18:52.21 | Spooky8577 | My hope was , that the compiling process use an prefetch directory. There I would make my changes in const.h and then I can start a new compilation with my changes. I think it's to simple ? |
| 18:54.05 | ByronT | be back later... |
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| 19:33.14 | peterroubos | anybody here that installed apache/php and is running gallery and wants to tell me something about Netpbm or ImageMagick? |
| 19:40.46 | jp30 | peterroubos, what do you want to know? |
| 19:41.23 | peterroubos | Well I used the apache/php ipkg packages and got it running fine |
| 19:41.47 | peterroubos | installed Gallery, but it gives me an error about missing packages |
| 19:41.55 | peterroubos | wait, will copy/paste |
| 19:42.31 | peterroubos | Missing optional binary pnmcomp |
| 19:42.46 | peterroubos | for Netpbm |
| 19:43.21 | peterroubos | and Missing optional binary composite. for imagemagic |
| 19:44.01 | peterroubos | It needs to have one of those two to function |
| 19:44.21 | peterroubos | I know some people installed it and are runniing it un their slug |
| 19:45.45 | peterroubos | So my question would be, what am I doing wrong |
| 19:49.54 | jp30 | i'm not using gallery myself, i'll look to see whether netpbm should include pnmcomp |
| 19:51.23 | peterroubos | ok, a bit further on in the setup "it" talked about pnm2jpg (or something like that) that it was missing, and I searched, but couldnt find that. |
| 19:51.33 | peterroubos | I'll look up the excact name |
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| 19:54.55 | jp30 | peterroubos, you built netpbm yourself? |
| 19:56.40 | peterroubos | Error: Could not find /share/hdd/conf/opt/bin/pnmtojpeg |
| 19:57.41 | peterroubos | nope, and I dont know how I got it on it, I installed Imagemagick (ipkg) maybe it was also in there |
| 19:58.51 | peterroubos | I'm not much of a builder, my last time realy using unix/linux was about 7 years ago, so I'm trying to rediscover (and have a lot to learn) |
| 19:59.22 | jp30 | ok, i'll look at imagemagick and see what's supposed to come with it |
| 20:01.53 | peterroubos | ok, the files are located in /share/hdd/conf/opt/bin and there are about 30 of them |
| 20:06.02 | jp30 | there should be an /opt/bin/composite as part of imagemagick. do you have it? |
| 20:06.24 | perlguru | there is no netpbm package yet |
| 20:06.35 | perlguru | so, no pngtojpeg |
| 20:07.11 | perlguru | http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:07.29 | peterroubos | checking |
| 20:08.28 | peterroubos | nope |
| 20:09.26 | giel | rwhitby-asleep: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelConfig |
| 20:09.40 | peterroubos | @perlguru, you think a N00b newbie like me could cross-compile that myself? |
| 20:10.08 | perlguru | any linux knowledge? |
| 20:10.19 | perlguru | running linux now? |
| 20:10.34 | jp30 | yuck, imagemagick packages /opt/lib/libltdl.so |
| 20:10.41 | garpinc | jp30 any other issues... |
| 20:10.47 | peterroubos | just a little, but not realy with compiling stuff... Been years ago that I have "played" winux |
| 20:11.09 | jp30 | garpinc, issues with... ffmpeg? |
| 20:11.20 | garpinc | yes or other |
| 20:11.30 | peterroubos | sory, w=l Runing cygwin |
| 20:11.48 | jp30 | garpinc, haven't looked at it further since we last talked |
| 20:12.00 | perlguru | mm, ok. i'll see what i can do for u. |
| 20:13.17 | perlguru | peterroubos, can take a while: i have to make the package, then jp30 needs to test it ;) |
| 20:13.34 | perlguru | and upload it on the feed |
| 20:13.36 | peterroubos | I have a few minutes ;) |
| 20:14.01 | peterroubos | so how do I know? |
| 20:14.37 | peterroubos | I mean when it's finished? |
| 20:15.36 | jp30 | peterroubos, this will take a couple of days at least probably. i am still learning the ropes as BuildMeister |
| 20:15.56 | perlguru | well, watch the channel and look for CIA to say netpbm is promoted ;) |
| 20:16.20 | jp30 | meanwhile, you might post to the yahoo list, and ask the other people who are using gallery how they did it |
| 20:16.50 | perlguru | i dont use the yahoo list |
| 20:17.27 | jp30 | perlguru, i meant for peterroubos to post to the yahoo list, if he is impatient :) |
| 20:17.43 | peterroubos | OK, I will try that too |
| 20:17.53 | peterroubos | I'm not impatient |
| 20:18.33 | peterroubos | it's hobby, would like to have it running but if it doesn't... well, i'm still happy |
| 20:18.50 | jp30 | peterroubos, :) if you post it will hopefully cause those gallery users to document what they are doing! |
| 20:18.58 | jp30 | ...so go to it |
| 20:19.16 | peterroubos | Well if I have it running I could make a post to the wiki |
| 20:19.25 | jp30 | that would be great |
| 20:19.50 | peterroubos | No problem, must put kids to bed now.... CU l8r |
| 20:29.28 | pTweety | jp30, thanks for your pm about postfix. Adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the '$(MAKE) install' line does the trick. |
| 20:29.59 | pTweety | dyoung, are you arround? |
| 20:31.58 | pTweety | rwhitby told me you can give me access to the make.log of cyrus-imapd. |
| 20:35.18 | jp30 | pTweety, no probs. i can look at the make.log for you too... hang on... |
| 20:36.49 | pTweety | I'll be online for about another hour |
| 20:40.13 | jp30 | pTweety, my memory's failing me... cyrus-imapd is native-only, right? |
| 20:40.55 | pTweety | jepp |
| 20:41.44 | jp30 | there's no log for it on gastro, i'll try building it now and see what happens |
| 20:45.02 | perlguru | big fun: netpbm has its own config tool (not gnu) :( this make take some time... |
| 20:46.34 | perlguru | mmm, just noticed: dyoung was working on it ;) |
| 20:50.48 | perlguru | ping dyoung |
| 20:54.19 | perlguru | jp30, ask dyoung about netpbm. He created it initially. |
| 20:54.41 | perlguru | i'll let it be. I am off to bed now. |
| 20:54.44 | peterroubos | just 1 little question, if I post to the Yahoo group, do I put [nslu2-linux] in the header myself or is that done automaticly |
| 20:55.11 | jp30 | perlguru, g'night! |
| 20:55.16 | perlguru | bye |
| 20:55.29 | jp30 | peterroubos, it's done automatically |
| 20:55.44 | peterroubos | ok, going to post my question now.. |
| 20:56.14 | jp30 | pTweety, sorry, looks like i need to talk to other devs about permissions on gastro before i can test cyrus-imapd for you... |
| 20:56.44 | pTweety | no problem, I'm not in a hurry |
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| 21:03.33 | ByronT | ka6sox, check pm... need to ask a question |
| 21:06.03 | ka6sox-office | byronT: resend |
| 21:11.10 | dyoung | hmm? |
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| 21:14.12 | dyoung | ah ok ay. |
| 21:14.44 | dyoung | jp30, I think I started looking at netpbm to supplement imagemagick. |
| 21:14.45 | [g2] | hey dyoung ! |
| 21:15.01 | dyoung | If someone wants to play with it, they should feel free. |
| 21:16.13 | jp30 | hey dyoung... i'll encourage perlguru to work on it. (and i'm having some trouble with permissions on gastro, can you help me out?) |
| 21:16.38 | dyoung | Ok, let me get back to you on gastro in 15 min. |
| 21:31.46 | CIA-11 | 03ptweety * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/postfix.mk sources/postfix/rc.postfix): postfix is again ready for native only testing |
| 21:32.00 | rwhitby-away | hey[g2] |
| 21:32.15 | rwhitby-away | Did you see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/KernelConfig |
| 21:33.00 | rwhitby-away | we put the ext usb had modules into the kernel last night, and now only have 10k left in kernel, so we're gonna take some unused stuff out. giel has done the analysis for us |
| 21:36.19 | jp30 | pTweety, ping? |
| 21:36.23 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, checking now, I saw the log about that |
| 21:37.09 | pTweety | jepp, I'm still not sleeping (even if I should ;-) |
| 21:37.11 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: external disk with switchbox is ready for testing in OpenSlug-1.2 - I haven't tested it though |
| 21:38.17 | jp30 | pTweety, i have some cyrus-imapd errors for you... |
| 21:38.32 | pTweety | juhuu |
| 21:38.40 | jp30 | ...shall i email them to you? |
| 21:38.49 | pTweety | think it's the best |
| 21:39.50 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, I pulled 10 mintues ago and I'm building now |
| 21:40.10 | VoodooZ_work | I ran in some problems with the latest build. |
| 21:40.17 | VoodooZ_work | lib stuff |
| 21:40.44 | VoodooZ_work | Here's what I said earlier this morning: |
| 21:40.48 | VoodooZ_work | <VoodooZ_Work> [g2], rwhitby: I don't know if it's related to the latest changes but I'm getting this on bootup now: |
| 21:40.48 | VoodooZ_work | <VoodooZ_Work> /sbin/init: error while loading shared Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 21:40.48 | VoodooZ_work | <VoodooZ_Work> libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot op en shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:40.48 | VoodooZ_work | <VoodooZ_Work> This happens right after the VFS line and Freeing init memory: 80K lines. |
| 21:40.48 | VoodooZ_work | <VoodooZ_Work> Keep in mind that I've started putting in my privates changes so It might just be me but I doubt it as I only added some bluetooth stuff and all. |
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| 21:41.26 | jp30 | pTweety, email on the way to you |
| 21:41.40 | VoodooZ_work | kergoth and pb said it was a long standing bug in OE but it's got to be something else. |
| 21:43.58 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, what to you think of pulling ext3 and jdb support and accessing the disks in recovery mode as ext2 ? |
| 21:44.30 | ka6sox-office | [g2], that is the way most distro's handle it |
| 21:45.08 | VoodooZ_log | anyways. I'm leaving work now so bbl |
| 21:49.02 | [g2] | VoodooZ_log, The build booted just fine for me |
| 21:49.21 | VoodooZ_log | dang!! |
| 21:49.45 | VoodooZ_log | I did uncomment the jffs2 rootfs boot kernel command line. |
| 21:49.56 | VoodooZ_log | isn't that supposed to work? |
| 21:50.26 | VoodooZ_log | I'm leaving work now so I'll log back on in 10 minutes and I'll try a default switchbox install. |
| 21:50.28 | VoodooZ_log | later. |
| 21:51.35 | jp30 | pTweety, looks like you need -I$(STAGING_INCLUDE_DIR) |
| 21:51.53 | pTweety | for cyrus-imapd? |
| 21:52.21 | [g2] | VoodooZ_log, that worked for me before |
| 21:52.32 | [g2] | giel, around ? |
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| 22:10.50 | VoodooZ_home | [g2], what's the default command line again? the /dev/ram0 one? |
| 22:12.19 | [g2] | Kernel command line: root=/dev/ram0 rw rootfstype=ext2,jffs2 initrd=0x01000000,10M init=/linuxrc mem=32M@0x00008.... |
| 22:12.39 | [g2] | VoodooZ_home, that last part was truncated on the minicom screen |
| 22:12.41 | VoodooZ_home | ok thanks. |
| 22:13.03 | VoodooZ_home | well, I'll just uncomment the original one. |
| 22:13.19 | rwhitby-away | VoodooZ_home: you should keep a separate repo which is virgin without our local changes, then you could build that to determine whether problems are real, or your local changes .... |
| 22:14.06 | VoodooZ_home | yeah. I will |
| 22:14.22 | VoodooZ_home | now that I have the opteron box setup it's even easier. |
| 22:14.32 | rwhitby-away | ok, back later |
| 22:14.33 | VoodooZ_home | 1/2hour and I'll know. |
| 22:14.45 | VoodooZ_home | I'll start a virgin one too. |
| 22:16.19 | CIA-11 | 03kin-kwok * 10unslung/sources/squid/squid.delay-start.sh: It will keep waiting until quotacheck is done |
| 22:19.05 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, .recovery works for me excepted /sbin/telnetd is missing |
| 22:25.43 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, both jffs2 and ext3 on the hd mount fine |
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| 22:35.30 | Gorx | hry prrp |
| 22:35.34 | Gorx | peepsd* |
| 22:35.39 | Gorx | my NSLU2 is bust big time |
| 22:36.10 | Gorx | whenever i switch it on, it takes ages to do the little beep and then it refuses any sort of connection, be it telnet or web interface |
| 22:36.40 | ByronT | sounds like a bad flash and/or sysconf is toast |
| 22:37.19 | Gorx | shit what can i do? |
| 22:37.30 | ByronT | first, watch your language in here |
| 22:37.40 | ByronT | second, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FailSambaInformation |
| 22:38.00 | Gorx | sorry |
| 22:38.01 | ByronT | ~nslu2-general |
| 22:38.02 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 23:01.26 | VoodooZ_home | [g2]-away, nope. usign the switchbox based command line doesn't work either so I guess I'll trace back my steps. |
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| 23:08.34 | rwhitby-web | ka6sox: ping |
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| 23:18.19 | ByronT | rwhitby-web- he's in as ka6sox-office |
| 23:18.41 | rwhitby-web | thx |
| 23:25.11 | dyoung | rwhitby, when you have a chance, extdisk rootfs is broke because switchbox cant see /dev/sdax. I'll be able to look at it in around 8-10 hours. |
| 23:31.30 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: I mounted stuff from /dev/sda1 in an openslug switchbox last night. |
| 23:31.52 | [g2]-away | It did it a couple minutes ago |
| 23:31.53 | rwhitby-web | even mk2efs'd it. It's in the logs. |
| 23:32.14 | [g2]-away | just tried booting to .sda1 |
| 23:32.19 | [g2]-away | and looks like a panic |
| 23:32.35 | [g2]-away | Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/sda1 ... |
| 23:32.35 | [g2]-away | o such device or address |
| 23:33.08 | [g2]-away | Preferred root device is /dev/sda1 (disk 1) |
| 23:33.08 | [g2]-away | Sleeping 10sec while waiting for disk... |
| 23:33.08 | [g2]-away | kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds |
| 23:33.08 | [g2]-away | EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. |
| 23:33.08 | [g2]-away | irq26: nobody cared |
| 23:33.09 | [g2]-away | PC is at ehci_watchdog+0xdc/0xe8 |
| 23:33.11 | [g2]-away | LR is at __mod_timer+0x8c/0xb4 |
| 23:33.13 | [g2]-away | pc : [<c0136678>] lr : [<c003cb38>] Not tainted |
| 23:33.15 | [g2]-away | sp : c01dfed8 ip : ffff913e fp : c01dfef4 |
| 23:33.17 | [g2]-away | r10: c01dff7c r9 : c02119f8 r8 : c0217960 |
| 23:33.22 | [g2]-away | r7 : c01e1274 r6 : 60000013 r5 : c021a458 r4 : c0edd000 |
| 23:33.23 | [g2]-away | r3 : c0217bfc r2 : 00000009 r1 : c0edd1f4 r0 : 00000000 |
| 23:33.25 | [g2]-away | Flags: Nzcv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment kernel |
| 23:33.27 | [g2]-away | Control: 39FF Table: 002C4000 DAC: 0000001D |
| 23:33.29 | [g2]-away | [<c001f684>] (report_bad_irq+0x0/0xd0) from [<c001fa20>] (do_level_IRQ+0x84/0xbc) |
| 23:33.31 | [g2]-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.33 | [g2]-away | [<c001f99c>] (do_level_IRQ+0x0/0xbc) from [<c001faa4>] (asm_do_IRQ+0x4c/0x150) |
| 23:33.36 | jacques | OK ALREADY |
| 23:33.37 | [g2]-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.38 | jacques | WTF? |
| 23:33.39 | [g2]-away | [<c001fa58>] (asm_do_IRQ+0x0/0x150) from [<c001e940>] (__irq_svc+0x20/0x60) |
| 23:33.41 | [g2]-away | [<c013659c>] (ehci_watchdog+0x0/0xe8) from [<c003ce44>] (run_timer_softirq+0x17c/0x1b0) |
| 23:33.43 | [g2]-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.46 | kergoth | egad man |
| 23:33.49 | rwhitby-web | speaking of mk2efs - putting cpio, find, and mke2fs in switchbox (to allow initialisation of new disks from inside switchbox) will put us over the 2 block limit, so I propose that we leave external disk initialisation, and nfs root, using stuff from jffs2 (like it currently does for unslung) rather than trying to put anything more in switchbox |
| 23:33.51 | kergoth | whats with the flood? |
| 23:33.51 | jacques | JEEZUS |
| 23:33.58 | rwhitby-web | flood, schmud |
| 23:34.01 | ByronT | eeek |
| 23:34.09 | jacques | I have seen hundreds of those |
| 23:34.24 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: yeah I got that too, but the mount still seemed to work |
| 23:34.29 | jacques | all that crap helps nobody - other than the first couple of lines |
| 23:34.52 | jacques | do you really think someone will say "r7 : c01e1274" aha!! now it all makes sense! |
| 23:34.56 | [g2]-away | rwhitby-web, this was on the boot attempt to the hd |
| 23:35.13 | rwhitby-web | yeah - it tries to mount it to check for /sbin/init and stuff. |
| 23:35.32 | rwhitby-web | did it do anything after that, or was that the end of the show? |
| 23:35.42 | [g2]-away | oh I copied the linuxrc by accident :) |
| 23:36.17 | rwhitby-web | this seems to related to the spurious irq26 things that people are seeing - irq26 is the ehci |
| 23:36.33 | jacques | related? |
| 23:36.36 | jacques | it *is* |
| 23:36.46 | rwhitby-web | "closely related" :-) |
| 23:37.03 | jacques | I get all that crap every time I get a "irq26: nobody cared" |
| 23:37.09 | jacques | but it doesn't seem to hurt anything |
| 23:37.21 | rwhitby-web | could it be a kernel bug? |
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| 23:38.04 | jacques | could be I suppose, or bad tuning in some scheduler |
| 23:39.34 | jacques | for all I know it may be related to the 4000 interrupts/second from the CSR stuff |
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| 23:41.14 | rwhitby-web | jacques: how is that going? (modifying ixp425_eth for openslug) |
| 23:41.47 | jacques | rwhitby-web, I haven't started |
| 23:43.13 | [g2]-away | Ok it's a timing issue because it didn't happen this time |
| 23:43.24 | [g2]-away | Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/sda1 ... |
| 23:43.24 | [g2]-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.43 | [g2]-away | "/linuxrc: 166: cannot open dev/console: NoKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 23:44.24 | [g2]-away | that's odd, we should be running /sbin/init |
| 23:44.24 | ByronT | gotta head home! |
| 23:44.34 | dyoung | i had that one before. itsbecause you don thave dev/console in your disk. |
| 23:45.03 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: perhaps we can check for that in the rootfs suitability test |
| 23:45.19 | rwhitby-web | check for /sbin/init or /bin/init, *and* /dev/console |
| 23:45.33 | dyoung | that would be a good idea. |
| 23:45.41 | dyoung | back later. |
| 23:45.58 | [g2]-away | I did a cp -ap from jffs2 to the hd |
| 23:46.04 | [g2]-away | I'd guess it'd be there |
| 23:48.07 | rwhitby-web | [g2]-away: we used find and cpio for maintenance mode |
| 23:49.54 | [g2]-away | rwhitby-web, you mean the one's that aren't there or are on the jffs2 |
| 23:50.40 | rwhitby-web | yeah - we put them in the base image on jffs2 for unslung, specifically so we could use them to copy a filesystem (in our case for maintenance mode) |
| 23:51.00 | rwhitby-web | we should add them (and mke2fs if it's not there already) to the base image for openslug too |
| 23:51.15 | rwhitby-web | you need the full ones, not the busybox ones |
| 23:51.56 | [g2]-away | you mean the busybox cp doesn't work properly ? |
| 23:52.35 | [g2]-away | tar is there |
| 23:53.46 | rwhitby-web | for some reason (which I don't remember) we had to use find and cpio - cp and tar didn't cut it |
| 23:54.30 | rwhitby-web | the reason will be in the logs somewhere :-) |
| 23:54.40 | rwhitby-web | but I think it was to do with /dev stuff .... |
| 23:54.48 | [g2]-away | I'll check |
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| 23:57.22 | [g2]-away | "/dev does look funny |
| 23:57.24 | rwhitby-web | we need an openslug version of the "unsling" verb to describe preparing an openslug external disk or nfs root location |
| 23:57.56 | rwhitby-web | then we need a script by that name in openslug-init :-) |