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| 00:05.04 | KolleAnka | irc://irc.se.linux.org/selinux |
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| 00:32.12 | NSLU2-IRC | hey |
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| 00:33.14 | jacques | I'm going to try to build Unslung 4.2-alpha |
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| 00:35.25 | gorx | hey people |
| 00:35.37 | jacques | hello |
| 00:35.50 | gorx | ive got a prob for you guys to help me with |
| 00:36.05 | gorx | im trying to telnet the box and... |
| 00:36.18 | gorx | ive changed the passwd file and everything so i can logion as root |
| 00:36.38 | gorx | but when I try and logon as root |
| 00:36.53 | gorx | it says 'No directory, loggin in with HOME=/' |
| 00:37.08 | gorx | then disconnects |
| 00:37.11 | gorx | any ideas? |
| 00:38.04 | Tiersten | You using Unslung or you just using the stock firmware? |
| 00:38.19 | gorx | unslung |
| 00:38.21 | gorx | latest |
| 00:39.06 | rwhitby | ~nslu2-general |
| 00:39.07 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 00:39.27 | rwhitby | see you there gorx |
| 00:39.34 | gorx | rgr |
| 00:40.42 | gorx | ~nslu2-general |
| 00:40.43 | jbot | #nslu2-general is the IRC channel specifically set up for end-user questions about the NSLU2 device. Questions that are not related to the nslu2-linux development projects should not be asked in #nslu2-linux, but should be asked in #nslu2-general instead. |
| 00:40.58 | gorx | how do i connect to it? |
| 00:41.18 | rwhitby | ah - you're going through the java interface? |
| 00:41.25 | rwhitby | do you have an IRC client available? |
| 00:41.25 | gorx | yes |
| 00:41.28 | Tiersten | Type "/join #nslu2-general" without the quotes |
| 00:41.29 | gorx | no |
| 00:41.45 | gorx | ta |
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| 01:57.17 | MoooCow | help: I've fallen and can't get up: I deleted libgcc_s.so.1 and can't find a package containing it anyplace.... |
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| 04:07.31 | jp30 | hurrah! I've convinced apache to cross-compile. onward to php |
| 04:09.30 | jacques | jp30, .mk? :-) |
| 04:11.51 | jp30 | i want to check that i've done it such a way that external modules like php can be built, too... and i haven't actually tried installing it on a slug yet. |
| 04:12.06 | jp30 | ...but if all that works, .mk to follow |
| 04:12.40 | jp30 | ...getting apxs to work from the staging directory may be tricky |
| 04:15.03 | jacques | yeah that stuff is tricky |
| 04:19.00 | rwhitby | jp30: good stuff! |
| 04:19.00 | jacques | did you look at how oe cross-builds apache ? |
| 04:19.29 | rwhitby | don't be afraid to check in the .mk file early, so others can look at it and help you debug anything ... |
| 04:19.42 | rwhitby | it doesn't get used until it goes into the top-level Makefile |
| 04:20.15 | [g2] | jp30, which apache and which php ? |
| 04:20.40 | jp30 | apache 2.0.53, php 4.3.10 |
| 04:21.18 | [g2] | php 4.3.6 builds in OE |
| 04:21.31 | [g2] | and apache almost builds ... checking version |
| 04:22.14 | jp30 | i guess i'll look at oe if I get stuck... i've done that for the x11 stuff in the past |
| 04:22.44 | jacques | heh |
| 04:22.45 | [g2] | apache is 2.0.48 |
| 04:23.11 | jp30 | i didn't want to commit early as i'm not sure i want to be responsible for getting it working (if it turns out to be harder than i think) |
| 04:23.14 | [g2] | I'd be really nice to have a working apache with php in OE |
| 04:23.32 | jp30 | i should learn to drive bitbake someday |
| 04:24.32 | jp30 | of course oe is the right way to go, but i found it very poorly documented (in comparison to unslung, with its useful wiki) |
| 04:24.40 | [g2] | Creating configure ... |
| 04:24.41 | [g2] | cp: cannot stat `/build/find_apu.m4': No such file or directory |
| 04:24.46 | [g2] | that's where apache dies |
| 04:25.28 | jp30 | hmm... yeah, i've fixed that problem. i'm not sure how oe does things, but i started by building apr and apu outside the apache tree... |
| 04:27.09 | jp30 | apache's configure script and makefiles are really not well suited to cross-compilation |
| 04:27.51 | jacques | in this day and age, I see that as a major black mark |
| 04:28.15 | jacques | perl still wins the prize tho |
| 04:30.12 | jacques | huh? |
| 04:30.36 | [g2] | qemu runs arm app programs |
| 04:31.04 | jacques | hmm |
| 04:31.54 | [g2] | I'll try running gcc next week if I can |
| 04:32.31 | jacques | [g2], what have you run in there so far? bash? |
| 04:32.32 | [g2] | I mean this is all vanilla app stuff |
| 04:32.49 | [g2] | I haven't run anything in there yet |
| 04:32.51 | [g2] | :) |
| 04:32.55 | [g2] | arm wise |
| 04:33.35 | jacques | I would LOVE for qemu to be working better for arm. I just don't see any progress tho so I am rather disenchanted. |
| 04:34.03 | [g2] | they've got user emulation for ARM Green |
| 04:35.03 | jacques | they have? I thought I just looked this morning and it was still orange |
| 04:35.21 | jacques | ah OK |
| 04:35.39 | jacques | I was looking at the host table |
| 04:37.59 | jacques | [g2], but anyway, I am interested in system level emulation |
| 04:38.16 | jacques | tho user level could be very useful - maybe I'll check it out |
| 04:38.22 | [g2] | jacques, well that would solve all the thorny cross-build issues |
| 04:39.04 | [g2] | have OE build a rootfs with source and patches in it, then just in and build-away |
| 04:39.49 | jacques | could rock |
| 04:40.02 | jacques | neat I think I just beat usbutils into submission |
| 04:40.13 | [g2] | cool |
| 04:40.27 | [g2] | I'm gonna ask in the OE channel |
| 04:40.32 | dyoung | I like Noodles. |
| 04:40.44 | jacques | me too |
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| 04:41.30 | rwhitby | no noodles until openslug 1.x is released |
| 04:41.54 | dyoung | Joe went to the grocery and bought some noodles. They were tastier than the waffles. |
| 04:41.58 | dyoung | ;-) |
| 04:42.43 | jacques | i like noodles with soy sauce |
| 04:42.48 | jacques | and butter |
| 04:43.01 | dyoung | oop, I got that wrong. The Noodles were more fun than the waffles, ;-) |
| 04:43.06 | jacques | which reminds me - time to start marinating the catfish |
| 04:43.13 | dyoung | Mmm Catfish.... |
| 04:43.19 | dyoung | I like Butter too. |
| 04:43.49 | dyoung | (if nothing I said about waffles makes any sense, check out the wiki sandbox) |
| 04:49.41 | [g2] | jacques, how far is xscale from a full arm7 ? |
| 04:49.52 | [g2] | qemu handles the full arm7 |
| 04:51.15 | [g2] | nite all |
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| 05:49.23 | JWynen | Hi everyone, having some trouble with ipkg. Anyone have a moment to help? |
| 05:54.39 | CIA-1 | 03djf * 10unslung/sources/usbutils/ (control lsusb-endian.patch ltconfig.patch): initial checkin |
| 05:55.24 | CIA-1 | 03djf * 10unslung/make/usbutils.mk: initial checkin - builds and packages native, cross unknown |
| 05:59.01 | JWynen | Well, I should get some sleep. Will post the question to the yahoo group. Thanks anyway. |
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| 06:20.03 | v1s | hello |
| 06:20.15 | v1s | anyone here ? |
| 06:29.17 | jp30 | hi, vls |
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| 06:55.24 | v1s | sorry my other system froze before |
| 06:55.33 | v1s | not sure if some one responded if anyone is here |
| 06:55.42 | jp30 | hi, v1s, i'm here |
| 06:55.45 | v1s | So I will shot for what I am going to ask. |
| 06:55.49 | v1s | hi jp30 |
| 06:55.59 | jp30 | go ahead... |
| 06:56.09 | v1s | I have a usb hd box that holds 4 drives in it |
| 06:56.18 | v1s | 2 of the drives per usb port |
| 06:56.36 | v1s | so I want to raid them |
| 06:56.58 | v1s | I was reading the raid how to on the site |
| 06:57.37 | jp30 | ...i'm no expert on this, sorry... unless you want generic linux raid advice |
| 06:58.01 | v1s | might help :) |
| 06:58.43 | v1s | acthully I am trying to dl the mdadm pack |
| 06:58.52 | jp30 | well, what was the problem the wiki information couldn't solve? |
| 07:44.27 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (4 files in 3 dirs): initial checkin: apr and apr-util |
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| 08:02.31 | v1s | where can I get unslung-able ?? |
| 08:03.37 | rwhitby-away | you have to build it |
| 08:03.54 | v1s | sorry mis read what it does |
| 08:04.11 | v1s | I need support for the multible luns |
| 08:05.26 | v1s | the hd enclose I have supports 4 hd on 2 usb ports so 2 hds per port |
| 08:05.40 | v1s | any idea how I can have them register seprattely? |
| 08:06.00 | v1s | it seems to be running on both like they are 1 drive |
| 08:30.53 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (8 files in 2 dirs): initial checking of apache |
| 08:39.18 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (4 files in 2 dirs): initial checkin of php |
| 08:50.55 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/ (apr-util.mk apache.mk): oops: missed dependencies for apr-util and apache |
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| 08:59.32 | v1s | anyone here ever setup raid ? |
| 08:59.37 | v1s | or more then 2 usb drives? |
| 09:11.20 | rwhitby-away | not that I've heard |
| 09:13.29 | rwhitby-away | jp30: we only have libdb 4.2 in unslung, and it seems apache is looking for 4.3 |
| 09:14.11 | jp30 | rwhitby-away, does it actually fail to configure? |
| 09:14.14 | rwhitby-away | v1s: you will need to run OpenSlug to be able to access more than two drives, raided or not |
| 09:14.35 | rwhitby-away | jp30: home/unslung/packages/toolchain/armv5b-softfloat-linux/gcc-3.3.5-glibc-2.2.5/lib/gcc-lib/armv5b-softfloat-linux/3.3.5/../../../../armv5b-softfloat-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb-4.3 |
| 09:14.49 | rwhitby-away | building htpasswd |
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| 09:19.20 | v1s | is there firmware I can just load on to it ? |
| 09:20.05 | jp30 | rwhitby-away, can you grep for UTIL_LDFLAGS in apache's config.status and see if that's where the -ldb-4.3 is coming from? |
| 09:20.33 | v1s | jp30, is there openslug firmware that can download ? |
| 09:21.32 | jp30 | v1s, no, you need to build it yourself |
| 09:22.20 | v1s | where do Iget the files to build ? |
| 09:23.26 | jp30 | v1s, you need to use bitkeeper. read the wiki |
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| 10:02.26 | rwhitby-away | rwhitby@nomic:/home/unslung/packages$ grep UTIL_LDFLAGS builds/apache/config.status |
| 10:02.27 | rwhitby-away | s,@UTIL_LDFLAGS@,,;t t |
| 10:06.17 | jp30 | rwhitby-away, i've committed some changes to apr-util that I think will fix the problem |
| 10:37.32 | rwhitby-away | jp30: apache built |
| 10:38.07 | rwhitby-away | let me know when you think it's ready for the feeds |
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| 11:08.32 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Promoted apache and php. |
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| 11:19.25 | dyoung | anyone know offhand what the apache memory footprint is on the nslu2? |
| 11:19.44 | dyoung | I've been wanting to resetup my personal cgiirc gateway. |
| 11:22.27 | rwhitby-away | ipkg install and see :-) |
| 11:24.29 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Promoted apr and apr-util |
| 11:30.20 | rwhitby | got the apache test page on prodslug :-) |
| 11:30.53 | rwhitby | 3,3MB per instance |
| 11:31.00 | giel | gah |
| 11:31.11 | giel | ~seen siddy |
| 11:31.13 | jbot | siddy <~sid@p509263BE.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 1d 15h 28m 20s ago, saying: '[g2], yeah, fortunately netconsole.c is quite short, but I can't see where it could cause an alignment-error.'. |
| 11:31.22 | giel | well, i'll wait |
| 11:33.17 | rwhitby | dyoung: let me know when you've got CGI::IRC working ;-) |
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| 11:48.13 | dyoung-slugweb | Okay it works |
| 11:48.27 | dyoung-slugweb | its really damn slow though. |
| 11:50.42 | rwhitby | how slow is slow - unbearable? |
| 11:51.04 | dyoung | I hve a unslubng 3.x fix. |
| 11:51.12 | dyoung | heh |
| 11:51.25 | ka6sox-away | dyoung-slugweb, what app is the slugweb? |
| 11:51.36 | rwhitby | apache |
| 11:51.41 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Move apr to cross only. |
| 11:51.43 | ka6sox-away | ow ow owwwww. |
| 11:51.45 | dyoung | Apache runs as nobody; but /tmp and /var/tmp are permisstion 755 |
| 11:51.46 | rwhitby | it's an ipk now (last half hour) |
| 11:52.25 | dyoung-slugweb | Lemme use it from here for a bit |
| 11:52.33 | dyoung-slugweb | I guess once it starts up its okay |
| 11:52.39 | dyoung-slugweb | the starting is pretty slow though |
| 11:52.41 | rwhitby | ok, that needs to be fixed in the posting (like openssl or dropbear does) |
| 11:53.05 | ka6sox-away | dyoung-slugweb: what does your swap look like? |
| 11:53.11 | dyoung-slugweb | Swap? |
| 11:53.18 | dyoung-slugweb | This one dont got no swap. ;-) |
| 11:53.39 | rwhitby | ka6sox-away: 3.3MB per apache instance it looks like |
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| 11:54.22 | ka6sox-away | its just straight apache...no modperl/ssl etc..? |
| 11:54.52 | rwhitby | dunno, I just build 'em |
| 11:54.59 | rwhitby | jp30 contributed it |
| 11:55.01 | dyoung-slugweb | my httpds are 2600 |
| 11:55.07 | dyoung-slugweb | the cgiirc is 3.5 |
| 11:55.29 | ka6sox-away | dyoung: cgiirc is same here. |
| 11:55.32 | ka6sox-away | or close |
| 11:55.33 | dyoung-slugweb | 3824 to be exact. |
| 11:56.07 | dyoung-slugweb | I guess its usable. |
| 11:56.13 | dyoung-slugweb | It doesnt completely suck. |
| 11:59.09 | rwhitby | can't be worse than a trans-pacific gateway ... |
| 11:59.29 | dyoung-slugweb | brb |
| 11:59.58 | rwhitby | dyoung: can you put up a howto for CGI::IRC ? |
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| 12:02.52 | ka6sox-away | okay its 4am here...I need sleep |
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| 12:04.40 | dyoung | hmm |
| 12:04.46 | dyoung | well, it worked once. |
| 12:04.58 | dyoung | crap I type there now doesnt come out. |
| 12:05.27 | dyoung | but stuff from here shows up there. |
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| 12:10.26 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Cleaned up the package categorisation - now there is just cross and native. New packages default to cross. |
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| 12:13.33 | dyoung | i'll put up a wiki page when i dtermine why it only work ssometimes |
| 12:16.25 | giel | hm, with unslung, why doesn't my usb drive in port2 get detected? |
| 12:17.06 | rwhitby | is it formatted vfat? |
| 12:17.25 | giel | yeah |
| 12:17.47 | giel | but it doesn't get detected in the sense that the usb storage doesn't see it |
| 12:17.50 | giel | no sdb at all |
| 12:18.33 | rwhitby | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TroubleshootADriveNotFormattedCondition |
| 12:19.04 | rwhitby | got the right devices and *_conn entries? |
| 12:19.56 | giel | dunno, but that's not even the problem |
| 12:20.10 | giel | it doesn't get detected in dmesg |
| 12:20.18 | giel | and it also isn't in /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 12:20.29 | rwhitby | dunno then |
| 12:21.06 | rwhitby | what brand is it, and does it only have one storage device LUN in it? |
| 12:21.23 | giel | WD |
| 12:21.26 | giel | probably |
| 12:21.30 | rwhitby | scratch the second question - irrelevant if it's not detected at all |
| 12:21.40 | giel | removing and reinserting the drive doesn't give any output in dmesg |
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| 12:24.42 | Gorx | gotta prob peeps |
| 12:24.53 | Gorx | its about CUPS |
| 12:25.18 | rwhitby | peeps? |
| 12:25.37 | Gorx | people |
| 12:25.41 | Gorx | hey whitby |
| 12:25.50 | Gorx | you installed cups? |
| 12:25.55 | rwhitby | nope |
| 12:26.01 | Gorx | do you know how? |
| 12:26.09 | rwhitby | ipkg install cups |
| 12:26.22 | Gorx | yes but where do you put the cups thing or whatever |
| 12:26.29 | Gorx | im a noob with linux ive gotta say |
| 12:26.36 | rwhitby | in the cups holder? |
| 12:26.46 | Gorx | had redhat and they had RPMs but I dunno about the rest |
| 12:26.56 | Gorx | very funny |
| 12:27.13 | rwhitby | dunno - never used cups |
| 12:27.22 | Gorx | do you have a printer on urs? |
| 12:27.38 | rwhitby | have you checked the cups doco on the net? Just add /opt to most paths ... |
| 12:28.08 | Gorx | no i havent |
| 12:28.33 | rwhitby | and I assume you've read the CUPS howto on the wiki, or else you wouldn't be here, right ;-) |
| 12:28.49 | Gorx | yeah |
| 12:30.44 | Gorx | how would you compile cups in windows? |
| 12:31.16 | rwhitby | CoLinux |
| 12:31.29 | Gorx | ta] |
| 12:33.37 | giel | ok |
| 12:33.38 | giel | weird |
| 12:33.53 | giel | boot slug, kill the USB_Detects, plug in drive, slug is locked up |
| 12:34.14 | rwhitby | weird |
| 12:34.21 | rwhitby | you haven't got serial yet, have you ? |
| 12:34.28 | giel | it isn't my own slug |
| 12:34.35 | giel | i'm gonna try it in the first port |
| 12:35.00 | rwhitby | disk1 will try to mount it with three ext3 partitions |
| 12:35.20 | giel | also if i kill the USB_detects first? |
| 12:35.25 | rwhitby | no |
| 12:37.47 | giel | it will only try to mount it if it gets detected at all |
| 12:37.47 | rwhitby | make sure rc.bootbin doesn't run either |
| 12:37.47 | giel | that's the first problem now |
| 12:37.47 | rwhitby | right |
| 12:37.47 | giel | i don't care if mounting fails, i want it to show up in dmesg |
| 12:37.47 | giel | if i just plug it in, it won't go fdisking/formatting on its own, rihgt? |
| 12:37.47 | rwhitby | no |
| 12:37.50 | giel | ok, let's try that then |
| 12:38.15 | rwhitby | does a hard disk work in Disk2? maybe it's a hardware problem |
| 12:38.33 | giel | okay, as disk1 it gets detected |
| 12:39.04 | giel | and i can mount it and stuff |
| 12:39.16 | rwhitby | smells like a hardware problem with disk2 port |
| 12:39.28 | giel | i mean, a hdd should work on port 2 |
| 12:39.36 | giel | you can hook up 2 hdds |
| 12:39.39 | Gorx | y dont you rip it out and put a serial port in? |
| 12:39.56 | rwhitby | Gorx: it isn't his slug |
| 12:40.07 | Gorx | o lol |
| 12:40.08 | giel | maybe the hardware gets confused because i had a flash stick in port 1 :) |
| 12:40.15 | giel | but still, imo it should matter |
| 12:40.19 | rwhitby | giel: does a hard disk work in disk2? |
| 12:40.45 | giel | in general or on this specific slug? |
| 12:43.45 | giel | okay, booting up without devices, pluggin in hdd in port2 and then flash in port1 seems to work |
| 12:43.45 | giel | after killing usb_detect |
| 12:43.47 | giel | hey, this is weird |
| 12:44.12 | giel | hdd in port2 plugged in first gets assigned sda1, and then the flash gets assigned sda1 sda2 sda3 |
| 12:44.16 | rwhitby | giel: on that specific slug - it should work in general |
| 12:44.34 | rwhitby | anything in port2 should be assigned sdb |
| 12:46.15 | giel | that is weird'cause it isn't |
| 12:46.22 | giel | it was assigned sda just now |
| 12:46.44 | rwhitby | that slug smells funny |
| 12:46.45 | giel | looks like a problem in the usb storage driver or something? |
| 12:52.12 | giel | is the usbstorage driver patched to force the sda/sdb assignment? |
| 12:52.33 | giel | 'cause normally mass storage devices get assigned the first free one |
| 12:53.04 | rwhitby | yeah, see scsi_scan.c |
| 12:53.23 | Tiersten | The MSC driver in the stock Linksys firmware is hacked to assign port1 to sda and port2 to sdb |
| 12:53.47 | giel | ok |
| 12:54.06 | giel | then i've got a really weird hardware problem, or something is wrong with my firmware |
| 12:58.00 | giel | can someone mail me the scsi_scan.c of unslung 3.18? (no bk access atm) |
| 12:59.46 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Promoted e2fsprogs parted proftpd recordext x11 xau xdmcp xdpyinfo xext xextensions xproto xtrans xtst ice sm xt xmu xauth to cross. |
| 13:00.05 | rwhitby | giel: i can |
| 13:00.17 | rwhitby | msg me your email address |
| 13:01.52 | rwhitby | hmm - something is screwy with my connection to gmail - maybe I can't at the moment. |
| 13:02.08 | giel | no hurries |
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| 13:03.17 | bob_tm | Just did a pull, but the build failed - anyone here that can help me out? |
| 13:04.36 | bob_tm | Error was: |
| 13:04.37 | bob_tm | slug@ali build $ bb unslung-image |
| 13:04.39 | bob_tm | NOTE: Using cache in '/home/slug/build/tmp/cache' |
| 13:04.41 | bob_tm | NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 2069 parsed, 26 skipped, 0 masked. |
| 13:04.42 | bob_tm | NOTE: Building provider hash: [####################] (100%) |
| 13:04.44 | bob_tm | NOTE: build 200502201355: started |
| 13:04.46 | bob_tm | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 13:04.47 | bob_tm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.48 | bob_tm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.50 | bob_tm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.52 | bob_tm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.53 | bob_tm | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.55 | bob_tm | NameError: global name 'bb' is not defined |
| 13:05.22 | giel | rwhitby: i'm afk for a while, can you msg me if you've succeeded in mailing? |
| 13:05.34 | dyoung | bob_tm, you need to get a newer bitbake |
| 13:05.41 | dyoung | svn up |
| 13:05.41 | bob_tm | Thanks |
| 13:05.55 | rwhitby | giel: perhaps dyoung can help - my mail is offline atm |
| 13:06.58 | bob_tm | dyoung: I don't need to pull again? Just build? |
| 13:08.11 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Promoted perl-digest-hmac perl-digest-sha1 perl-html-parser perl-html-tagset perl-mime-base64 perl-net-dns perl-net-ident perl-storable perl-time-hires to native. |
| 13:08.46 | rwhitby | bob_tm: you might want to try nslu2-package-symlinks too - parses 338 files instead of 2069 |
| 13:09.11 | bob_tm | rwhitby: I will. |
| 13:10.16 | dyoung | you may or may not have to re-setup bitbake. But you probably dont need to p ull. |
| 13:10.40 | rwhitby | I run bitbake in place. Saves installing it. |
| 13:10.53 | dyoung | (heh thats why its may or may not....) |
| 13:13.11 | giel | dyoung: can you mail me scsi_scan.c of unslung 3.18? pretty plz? ;) |
| 13:13.21 | rwhitby | giel: sent |
| 13:13.22 | dyoung | I'm looking at it now |
| 13:13.29 | dyoung | debating if I know your email addy. |
| 13:13.31 | giel | dyoung: oh nm, rwhitby sent it already |
| 13:13.39 | dyoung | ok |
| 13:13.50 | giel | dyoung: it is in the maintainer of the unslung glibc ipk :) |
| 13:14.14 | dyoung | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.10 | dyoung | But I'll try to remember that. |
| 13:16.41 | giel | :) |
| 13:17.15 | dyoung | I wasnt aware that Linksys removed telnetd from R29 |
| 13:17.54 | rwhitby | yep |
| 13:18.12 | rwhitby | telnetd and telnet.cgi gone |
| 13:18.25 | rwhitby | but we can put them back :-) |
| 13:18.58 | dyoung | I wonder if that was our fault. |
| 13:19.07 | rwhitby | no other changes as far as I can see in the rootfs (unless the binaries have changed). |
| 13:19.24 | rwhitby | buzbee's :-) |
| 13:19.57 | rwhitby | In R25 they removed indexing in the Management dir, but buzbee got around that, so they went further in R29 |
| 13:20.09 | dyoung | oh yeah. hes not here. We can blame him. ;-) |
| 13:20.19 | rwhitby | the irony is that vi is still there, but there is no way to get to it :-) |
| 13:20.29 | Tiersten | serial? |
| 13:20.29 | shenson | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.44 | rwhitby | Tiersten: yeah, good point |
| 13:20.57 | shenson | many binaries differ but that probably just recompiling |
| 13:21.10 | rwhitby | yeah, that's what I figured |
| 13:21.15 | dyoung | I it still glibc 2.2.5 ? |
| 13:21.43 | rwhitby | hmm - good question. |
| 13:21.54 | rwhitby | let me see if I've still got it around anywhere ..... |
| 13:21.55 | Tiersten | still no sign of the source package |
| 13:22.43 | bob_tm | Any suggestions on replacing syslogd/klogd? It is in inittab, so it can't be diverted directly. Would it be an idea to divert it indirectly, like replacing syslogd and klogd by a script which in turn checks the unslung dirs. That way we could just kill syslogd/klogd once the disks are mounted and get the replacements restarted? Can that be done? |
| 13:24.39 | rwhitby | you could have a script on boot that moves the old syslogd aside and puts in a link to the new one, then kills the process to restart it. you'd need to be careful on package removal though ... |
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| 13:27.03 | bob_tm | rwhitby: Yes, but what if the slug crashes - then it will fail to load Linksys syslogd on restart. |
| 13:27.23 | bob_tm | since the link will still be in place |
| 13:28.15 | rwhitby | true |
| 13:29.27 | rwhitby | will an external disk be available when things in inittab are first run? |
| 13:29.47 | bob_tm | Nope |
| 13:30.07 | bob_tm | So it will always start Linksys logds first |
| 13:31.12 | bob_tm | I will try it out. I am very happy with syslog-ng - I log all my machines to the slug now. |
| 13:31.32 | bob_tm | ... since it's my only 24/7 machine |
| 13:31.52 | bob_tm | I even log my routers to it. |
| 13:32.41 | rwhitby | so the package will replace /sbin/syslogd and /sbin/klogs, or will the package modify /etc/inittab? |
| 13:33.32 | bob_tm | I thought of modifying /etc/inittab and redirect the entries to /unslung which will check the disk diversion dirs before starting orginal syslogd/klogd |
| 13:34.12 | rwhitby | packages are not allowed to touch /unslung |
| 13:34.39 | bob_tm | Ok - any suggestions on where to place things like this on the flash? |
| 13:35.00 | bob_tm | I'm not sure this is something a package should do - it would probably be manual config |
| 13:35.14 | rwhitby | manual config is fine |
| 13:36.14 | bob_tm | BTW - checked install. If we go for the one in coreutils - it build nicely on Gentoo and on the slug, so it will be the same both in cross and native |
| 13:37.18 | bob_tm | That was no welformed sentence :-) Ok - I found no existing dir in which to place it, so maybe a new tools dir in the toolchain and define $(INSTALL) macro in the make system. |
| 13:37.43 | rwhitby | agreed |
| 13:37.56 | rwhitby | like we do for ipk-utils |
| 13:38.00 | bob_tm | Yes |
| 13:38.13 | rwhitby | good plan |
| 13:38.27 | bob_tm | We could put more tools in there if problems arise with portability of standard unix tools |
| 13:38.48 | bob_tm | What should I do, practically? |
| 13:39.23 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Demoted postfix and cyrus-imapd. |
| 13:41.11 | rwhitby | bob_tm-away: same as for IPKG_BUILD |
| 13:43.53 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/torrent.mk: Fixed the dependencies so it wouldn't keep rebuilding. |
| 13:51.30 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/perl-net-ident/control: The contents were completely wrong. |
| 13:54.37 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2817.1.1 10openembedded/packages/busybox/switchbox-1.00/linuxrc: Silenced the stderr output from all the calls to dd in switchbox linuxrc |
| 13:54.42 | rwhitby | dyoung-zzzz: with all the package maintenance, that's all I got to do on switchbox tonight |
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| 14:28.25 | siddy | </quit |
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| 14:57.27 | JWynen | Good morning. Anyone have a moment to help me with an ipkg problem? |
| 15:22.27 | caplink811-away | JWynen: will try it, so please follow me to #nslu2-general |
| 15:23.08 | JWynen | thanks caplink811, I'm a noob on irc, so excuse me if i do something wrong |
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| 16:29.10 | bob_tm-away | rwhitby-away: I did a pull 4 hours ago and built the image. .unslung on the rootfs says "V2.3R25-uNSLUng-standard-4.2-alpha", but defconfig in standard kernel does not have devfs enabled. Is that correct? |
| 16:32.25 | bob_tm-away | Iow - has unslung-able replaced unslung-standard as kernel image for unslung in the new version? |
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| 16:55.27 | Remheadbaby | Sorry for the newbie question, but how to you get bitbake to only re-build the kernel after I make changes? |
| 16:55.48 | bob_tm-away | Remove the relevant stamps |
| 16:56.03 | bob_tm-away | You know how? |
| 16:56.20 | Remheadbaby | Nope; I'm assuming they're in the build/tmp directory... |
| 16:57.06 | bob_tm-away | Yes - build/tmp/stamps - You get the drift - there is a stamp for each stage in the process for each package |
| 16:57.56 | bob_tm-away | Just rm each one from package-do_compile and onwards with regards to file creation date |
| 16:57.59 | Remheadbaby | I thought I'd tried that, but it seemed to continue to re-use the built components... |
| 16:58.37 | bob_tm-away | Hmm... I usually clean the kernel too |
| 16:58.56 | bob_tm-away | but I'm "Newbie light" when it comes to this make system. |
| 16:58.58 | Remheadbaby | Ahh, but package-do_compile is a sub of stamps, isn't it... |
| 16:59.07 | bob_tm-away | No |
| 16:59.19 | bob_tm-away | It is just one file |
| 16:59.27 | bob_tm-away | ....as I recalll |
| 16:59.31 | Remheadbaby | ok; I'll double check what's in it |
| 16:59.47 | Remheadbaby | Why isn't there a "clean" target like make usually has? |
| 17:00.06 | bob_tm-away | It probably is somewhere - I just don't know where. |
| 17:00.10 | bob_tm-away | Anyone else? |
| 17:00.26 | jp30 | does bitbake -c clean work in this situation? |
| 17:00.44 | bob_tm-away | jp30: How do you specify package to clean? |
| 17:00.53 | jp30 | with the -b option |
| 17:01.07 | bob_tm-away | Ok - it will not fecth the sources again then and overwrite changes? |
| 17:01.37 | jp30 | I'm not sure - also a bitbake noob here, I'm afraid... |
| 17:01.58 | bob_tm-away | We all are :-) I've used it for months, but just used it. |
| 17:02.26 | Remheadbaby | I've just started with it, but it doesn't seem to be as "open" as a standard GNU make... |
| 17:03.18 | [g2] | rm -f tmp/stamps/openslug-kernel-2.6.9-r1.do_compile |
| 17:03.28 | [g2] | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TweakKernelOrPackagesInOE |
| 17:04.21 | Remheadbaby | Ahh... I'll double check that howto... but again, is there a reason why I can't target it? |
| 17:05.12 | bob_tm-away | g2: Do you know the answer to my query about the 4.2 kernel and devfs? |
| 17:08.42 | [g2] | bob_tm-away, sorry, but no, I'm an OpenSlug guy and I'm not following Unslung very much |
| 17:09.18 | bob_tm-away | Thanks - I'll wait for rwhitby-awake :-) |
| 17:09.34 | [g2] | bob_tm-away, you don't know anything about hotplug-ng do you ? |
| 17:09.35 | [g2] | :) |
| 17:10.54 | [g2] | no need to be ashamed |
| 17:11.26 | [g2] | except if you can't admit ignorance and ignore it :) |
| 17:11.39 | bob_tm-away | It's kind'a new to me, and it's not really new. |
| 17:11.51 | bob_tm-away | Haven't been keeping up. |
| 17:12.16 | [g2]-bbiab | well it's a week old :) |
| 17:12.33 | bob_tm-away | Here, yes, but in general? |
| 17:13.39 | bob_tm-away | I'm doing house cleaning and throwing away schematics and code from 1999. |
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| 17:19.15 | Remheadbaby | Here's another newbie question: I read the FAQ on integrating a Bluetooth usb device, but it was for OpenSlug; is there any reason why it wouldn't work on unslung? |
| 17:20.14 | bob_tm-away | What were the needed drivers? |
| 17:20.25 | bob_tm-away | Could be a problem with devfs |
| 17:20.42 | bob_tm-away | ...since unslung doesn't have it until 4.x |
| 17:20.58 | Remheadbaby | hci_usb, bluetooth |
| 17:22.06 | Remheadbaby | I'll look through the code to see if there are any references to devfs; anything I should look for in particular? |
| 17:22.06 | bob_tm-away | Nah, no devfs. Uses ordinary register. |
| 17:22.27 | bob_tm-away | Just a sec... |
| 17:22.48 | bob_tm-away | I have a binary ready for unslung. |
| 17:23.06 | bob_tm-away | But only the bluetooth |
| 17:23.09 | bob_tm-away | one |
| 17:23.21 | bob_tm-away | What does hci_usb do? |
| 17:24.15 | Remheadbaby | it runs the low level Host Controller Interface |
| 17:24.50 | bob_tm-away | Ok - they should both compile - just enable the modules in defconfig |
| 17:25.24 | Remheadbaby | That's what I kind of thought as well... but was wondering if there was any reason why OpenSlug might be preferred. |
| 17:25.33 | bob_tm-away | I change both defconfig and linux-version/arch/arm/defconfig, but one should be enough I think |
| 17:25.59 | bob_tm-away | Probably because it came from an openslugger? |
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| 17:47.07 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (sources/php/php.ini make/php.mk): distribute a php.ini with php |
| 18:01.55 | [g2] | bob_tm-away, are you an EE |
| 18:02.28 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/php.mk sources/apache/apxs.patch): apache: clean up apxs behaviour when staging an apache module; php: take advantage of this |
| 18:02.34 | bob_tm-away | Well, no - between the rock and the hard place - drivers & uCode at some point. |
| 18:03.08 | [g2] | uCode on processors ? |
| 18:03.31 | bob_tm-away | Jepp - or rather processor cards (long time ago) |
| 18:03.46 | bob_tm-away | mini machines. |
| 18:03.50 | [g2] | cool |
| 18:03.58 | [g2] | ot |
| 18:04.07 | [g2] | it's all merging anyway |
| 18:04.33 | bob_tm-away | Eh... it had its day. Not many places today can you get a request for an instuction and have it ready the week after :-) |
| 18:04.57 | bob_tm-away | but it ends in patch hell - the ucode was loadable from disk. |
| 18:05.25 | [g2] | softcores start the process all over again :) |
| 18:05.38 | [g2] | just a little faster load from disk :) |
| 18:06.29 | bob_tm-away | I always loved the error message "No such CPU" - it was for real - the bootstrap/io processor reported it if the main processor was not found. |
| 18:08.14 | bob_tm-away | The only thing I really miss was the ability to add and remove RAM while running. |
| 18:09.30 | bob_tm-away | ...welll sometimes it crashed, but that feature was done by another department, so I didn't have to care. |
| 18:09.43 | [g2] | sounds fun |
| 18:10.25 | bob_tm-away | Yeah, well. Wasted lots of perfectly good party-years in air-conditioned work spaces. |
| 18:11.13 | bob_tm-away | When I reflect on all the cool music I could have listened to and all the nice sex I could have had, I wouldn't have chosen the same thing over. |
| 19:59.50 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/apache.mk: apache: enable all modules; patch httpd.conf sources, rather than distributing our own static httpd.conf |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/sources/apache/ (httpd-std.conf.in httpd.conf): apache: enable all modules; patch httpd.conf sources, rather than distributing our own static httpd.conf |
| 20:06.49 | bob_tm-away | jp30: \o/ Hurray |
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| 20:07.56 | jp30 | yeah, looks like its all go - only problem is rwhitby rushed the version I committed last night into the feed. now he will have to rebuild them all over again |
| 20:08.46 | bob_tm-away | Well, worse things have happened. I'm much happier. |
| 20:09.03 | bob_tm-away | Does it build cross? |
| 20:09.24 | jp30 | oh, yes... it builds cross. actually i'd better check that native works... |
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| 20:10.38 | jp30 | I haven't check that ssl works... and ldap support is missing at present. will have to get openldap to build cross. |
| 20:10.50 | [g2] | jp30, so it (apache/php) builds cross with dynamic libs now ? |
| 20:10.57 | bob_tm-away | LDAP is not the end of the world. SSL is. |
| 20:11.22 | jp30 | [g2], yeah, absolutely. I put some notes on how its done on the wiki |
| 20:11.54 | jp30 | oh, PEAR is also missing. it will only build native |
| 20:12.31 | jp30 | ssl *should* work. it's just that I haven't tried it. |
| 20:12.51 | bob_tm-away | Ok - time will tell |
| 20:12.54 | jp30 | it's not enabled by default at least... |
| 20:13.13 | jp30 | ...will check whether mod_ssl is actually being built... |
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| 20:26.36 | bob_tm-away | Ok - just leave a note - I'm back and forth |
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| 20:33.15 | NSLU2-IRC | is there a way to use a different portnumber with libbt C BitTorrent library? |
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| 20:39.22 | Guest8178 | wow what great client |
| 20:39.27 | Guest8178 | i love java |
| 20:39.33 | Guest8178 | and i love all of you |
| 20:39.37 | Guest8178 | pretty l'll people |
| 20:39.55 | Guest8178 | hugs and kisses don't go changin for me! |
| 20:51.36 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/apache.mk: apache: enable many more modules, including ssl |
| 20:52.22 | jacques | jp30 is on fire. |
| 20:52.39 | jp30 | thank you :) |
| 20:53.12 | jacques | no, thank *you*! |
| 20:53.20 | jacques | ~hail jp30 |
| 20:53.22 | jbot | ACTION bows down to jp30 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 20:54.29 | jp30 | next stop, ldap. Is the maintainer of openldap in the house? |
| 20:55.25 | jacques | looks like it's caplink811-away |
| 20:56.09 | caplink811-away | yeah.. |
| 20:57.17 | caplink811-away | jp30: what's the matter? |
| 20:57.28 | jp30 | how close is openldap to building cross? it looks like i need some ldap libraries for apr-util to depend on - would openldap provide those? |
| 20:58.33 | caplink811-away | didn't try it yet, i build only native, cause i think ,openldap could also be building cross |
| 20:59.20 | caplink811-away | would try tomorrow build ldap cross |
| 20:59.52 | jp30 | hmm... ok I'll experiment. if I can get it to work, is it OK by you if I commit changes to openldap.mk? |
| 21:00.16 | caplink811-away | jp30: yes, sure, no problem |
| 21:01.04 | jp30 | caplink811-away, thanks, i'll see what i can do |
| 21:19.28 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2826 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Enabled DEVFS for Unslung standard - 4.3-alpha |
| 21:24.27 | rwhitby-away | jp30: unslung package feed is now updated with latest apache and php |
| 21:24.45 | rwhitby | bob_tm-away: unslung standard now has DEVFS - thanks for reminding me |
| 21:25.18 | rwhitby | ~worship jp30 for getting apache cross compiled |
| 21:25.20 | jbot | ACTION prostrates himself before jp30 for getting apache cross compiled. "I'm not worthy!" |
| 21:25.23 | [g2] | rwhitby, I had another idea about migration to OpenSlug |
| 21:25.41 | rwhitby | morning all! |
| 21:25.55 | rwhitby | [g2]: I'm all ears :-) |
| 21:25.59 | [g2] | we could start my migrating the make scripts to use the OE tools and build all with OE created toolchains |
| 21:26.25 | [g2] | and phase out packages as they are OE buildable |
| 21:26.39 | jp30 | rwhitby, i may have a new apache for you in a couple of hours :/ if i can get openldap to cross-build |
| 21:26.48 | [g2] | kergoth would probably sh**-a-brick over the idea |
| 21:27.27 | [g2] | anybody know if jbowler ever is in here ? |
| 21:27.32 | rwhitby | [g2]: what about the init scripts stuff that OE puts in the packages that Unslung can't handle? |
| 21:27.51 | [g2] | I wasn't talking for Unslung :( |
| 21:27.54 | rwhitby | or are you talking about different makefile targets for openslug packages |
| 21:28.05 | [g2] | It was for OpenSlug |
| 21:28.06 | rwhitby | same CVS repository, yes? |
| 21:28.41 | [g2] | I don't know how much in the make files will have to be tweaked |
| 21:28.55 | kergoth | sounds pointless to me |
| 21:29.10 | [g2] | kergoth, I thought you'd see it that way |
| 21:30.05 | rwhitby | [g2]: why wouldn't we just have an OE package which uploads all the ipks to a feed (I presume there's something like that already) and just have that package depend on all the OE packages that have been verified to work with OE, and then take any Unslung packages that are not already in OE and add them to OE ? |
| 21:30.25 | rwhitby | ... verified to work with OpenSlug .... |
| 21:30.53 | rwhitby | kergoth: which page did you want me to update with init script stuff ? |
| 21:31.12 | kergoth | there's no point in building openslug packages outside of oe. it gains you nothing |
| 21:31.18 | kergoth | rwhitby: that wiki page on making unslung packages work in oe |
| 21:31.30 | kergoth | i'm working my way through the items on that page |
| 21:31.49 | rwhitby | ok, will do that now |
| 21:33.09 | [g2] | rwhitby, the issue is twofold, 1) getting stuff built for OpenSlug, 2) Updating the packages in OE to work for OpenSlug (and all others) |
| 21:33.28 | kergoth | if apache in oe doesnt build, fix the build. |
| 21:33.30 | kergoth | this isnt that complecated. |
| 21:34.52 | [g2] | kergoth I agree with you, but there are a ton of devs out there that haven't made the transition and don't see it that way |
| 21:35.21 | [g2] | the approach you mention is skip 1) and focus on 2) |
| 21:35.39 | [g2] | but everyone isn't on the OE train |
| 21:35.42 | kergoth | you're trying to leverage unslung developers for openslug, instead of leveraging the countless folks in #oe that hack on many distributions |
| 21:35.45 | kergoth | its pointless |
| 21:35.48 | kergoth | a waste of your time and theirs |
| 21:36.56 | [g2] | possibly, I was thinking it's a bridge getting the unslung developers eased into being OE developers |
| 21:37.37 | kergoth | you're going to try to do that when oe's packages dont even work on unslung? |
| 21:37.40 | kergoth | good luck. |
| 21:38.26 | rwhitby | I agree that getting OE packages to work with Unslung is the important first step. |
| 21:40.50 | rwhitby | kergoth: Info added to the end of http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/OEPackagesForUnslung |
| 21:40.58 | kergoth | cool, thanks |
| 21:41.15 | rwhitby | let me know if there is anything else you need over that - I have some time right now to add stuff, but that window will close in 10 minutes or so |
| 21:42.07 | [g2] | kergoth, I was going to push hotplug-ng use into OpenSlug |
| 21:42.38 | [g2] | I've been testing and things seems to be working much better with hotplug-ng |
| 21:42.54 | kergoth | i've been testing it a bit on my zaurus too |
| 21:42.59 | kergoth | i'm going to create a hotplug-common package |
| 21:43.11 | kergoth | with some of the agents and things needed by both |
| 21:43.21 | kergoth | (i.e. the net agent that calls ifup) |
| 21:43.41 | [g2] | kergoth ifup is getting called properly on OpenSlug |
| 21:43.59 | kergoth | hotplug-ng doesnt include any scripts to handle network events, so i dont see how thats possible. |
| 21:44.00 | [g2] | both the usbnet and ixp425 driver bring up the iface |
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| 21:44.18 | kergoth | it includes scripts for pci, usb, and scsi only |
| 21:44.21 | [g2] | I just needed to add an auto eth0 |
| 21:44.26 | kergoth | gah |
| 21:44.35 | kergoth | so you're bringing them up only on boot. |
| 21:44.40 | kergoth | rather than by hotplug at insertion time |
| 21:45.10 | [g2] | I'm pretty sure it some up hotplug with the auto in there |
| 21:45.18 | [g2] | I can double check |
| 21:45.27 | kergoth | there's no net hotplug agent in hotplug-ng. |
| 21:45.35 | kergoth | therefore, hotplug runs no scripts that call ifup. |
| 21:45.41 | kergoth | so no, i find that extremely unlikely. |
| 21:45.45 | [g2] | it's part of usb for usbnet |
| 21:45.50 | kergoth | what? |
| 21:45.54 | kergoth | usbnet fires _two_ hotplug events |
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| 21:46.01 | kergoth | one is usb |
| 21:46.02 | kergoth | one is net |
| 21:46.11 | kergoth | if the usb agent is calling ifup, its horribly _broken_ |
| 21:46.25 | kergoth | _net_ needs to be doing that |
| 21:48.14 | rwhitby | [g2]: I just realised that the unslung switchbox merge we did yesterday will mean that openslug images built at the moment will be using the latest switchbox (and may therefore not boot). I'm flashing a latest openslug now to test. |
| 21:48.53 | kergoth | perhaps openslug.conf should use PREFERRED_VERSION to specify the old switchbox? |
| 21:49.07 | kergoth | (assuming both versions exist sa seperate .bb's, of course) |
| 21:49.28 | rwhitby | unfortunately they dont. We're just going to fix it :-) |
| 21:49.40 | rwhitby | (switchbox that is) |
| 21:49.49 | rwhitby | I should have tested openslug before the merge |
| 21:50.13 | rwhitby | [g2]: yep, it drops into recovery shell |
| 21:50.42 | rwhitby | my bad |
| 21:51.44 | [g2] | kergoth, you are right it *does not* call ifup on the hotplug |
| 21:51.50 | kergoth | fyi, from your description, i expect it'll be about a half an hour job to get our update-rc.d bbclass adapting things for unslung |
| 21:52.02 | rwhitby | excellent! |
| 21:52.13 | rwhitby | kergoth: we can also change Unslung if it makes anything easier |
| 21:52.40 | rwhitby | the rc.unslung-start stuff is ours, not linksys, so we are free to change it if that makes sense. |
| 21:52.58 | rwhitby | we were wanting to go to a full dependency-based system, but never got the time to implement it |
| 21:53.14 | kergoth | gotcha. the existing update-rc.d tool manipulates the S?? and K?? links in /etc/rcX.d/ directories, where X is the runlevel. so your layout isnt far off, just one "runlevel" |
| 21:53.23 | rwhitby | right |
| 21:53.44 | kergoth | i can just skip the use of the update-rc.d tool, and manually do the symlinking in the postinst and prerm |
| 21:53.53 | kergoth | should work pretty painlessly |
| 21:54.12 | rwhitby | cool |
| 21:54.20 | rwhitby | and the targets of the symlinks will live where? |
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| 21:55.11 | kergoth | up to you. default is for start & stop to be done in the same script, and just symlink it into place (S, K) |
| 21:55.19 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:55.32 | kergoth | actually.. |
| 21:55.48 | kergoth | the way things are today, startup scripts are manually installed in do_install to ${sysconfdir}/init.d |
| 21:56.05 | kergoth | there's no variable for the main init.d directory |
| 21:56.11 | kergoth | which might need to be fixed |
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| 21:56.38 | rwhitby-away | What did we decide on for checking /sbin/init in linuxrc? was it -L or -e ? |
| 22:01.36 | rwhitby-away | or did we decide on (-L or -x) ? |
| 22:02.39 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, I was going to change the default command line to boot directly mtdblock4 |
| 22:03.26 | [g2] | we can add switchbox back in when we are ready |
| 22:04.06 | rwhitby-away | ok, I intend to get it to work today .... |
| 22:05.10 | [g2] | ok, I can wait |
| 22:05.16 | rwhitby-away | ok, it got further, but now stops with: |
| 22:05.19 | rwhitby-away | Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/mtdblock4 ... |
| 22:05.20 | rwhitby-away | pivot_root: pivot_root: No such file or directory |
| 22:05.20 | rwhitby-away | chroot: cannot execute /linuxrc: No such file or directory |
| 22:05.20 | [g2] | I'm just worried about siddy |
| 22:05.50 | rwhitby-away | yep, I'm saying that even though you will change the command line, I will still keep working on it |
| 22:06.08 | [g2] | Oh you want me to change the command line ? |
| 22:06.42 | rwhitby-away | up to you. I will be attempting to fix what i broke asap, but if you want to push through a fix for someone who is waiting, then don't wait for me |
| 22:07.02 | [g2] | there's no linuxrc in the jffs2 partition right now correct ? or it isn't executable |
| 22:07.17 | rwhitby-away | not there |
| 22:07.27 | [g2] | right |
| 22:07.43 | rwhitby-away | we also need an initrd directory |
| 22:07.52 | [g2] | nod |
| 22:08.00 | rwhitby-away | and that should do it. |
| 22:08.26 | rwhitby-away | so how do you want to proceed? do you have a /linuxrc that you intended to put in there? |
| 22:08.26 | [g2] | the one other tweak is that the fstab entry is wrong for / |
| 22:08.27 | dyoung | The initrd directory was for convenience. |
| 22:08.44 | rwhitby-away | dyoung: seems that pivot_root is complaining if it is not there |
| 22:08.56 | [g2] | for OpenSlug, but it's getting that from the nslu2 machine info iirc |
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| 22:09.30 | dyoung | Oh yeah, thats right. youre right. |
| 22:10.22 | dyoung | That was to make things slightly cleaner. so the switchbox gets onto /inirc and is up to the jffs2 $runboot to umountit or not |
| 22:11.05 | caplink811-away | nite all |
| 22:14.12 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: so, do you know how to create the /initrd directory and what to put in /linuxrc for OpenSlug, or do you want dyoung and I to work it out |
| 22:14.30 | rwhitby-away | or do you want switchbox to do something different? |
| 22:15.23 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, last I looked the entries .sda2 and .sdb2 could be copied for .sda1 and .sdb1 for Openslug |
| 22:15.42 | jp30 | grrr... openldap is not going to cross-compile :( |
| 22:15.49 | [g2] | then OpenSlug could boot to .sda1 .sda2 .sdb1 .sdb2 |
| 22:16.10 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: yep, will do that once we get straight jffs2 working (or do you want me to give that higher priority?) |
| 22:16.46 | [g2] | are you using switchbox 4.x ? |
| 22:17.04 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 22:17.10 | rwhitby-away | ok, fixed the sd stuff |
| 22:17.34 | rwhitby-away | that will be useful for unslung too |
| 22:17.35 | [g2] | iirc switchbox 3.9 fixed the -L -e issue you were talking about |
| 22:18.09 | [g2] | which you probably just changed yourself |
| 22:18.51 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 22:19.05 | rwhitby-away | -L or -x is what I just implemented |
| 22:20.55 | [g2] | so right now in 4.x it's root=/dev/ram0 and an initrd of 10MB with init=/linuxrc |
| 22:21.41 | [g2] | and it defaults to jffs2 |
| 22:21.47 | dyoung | dont forget the rw. |
| 22:21.50 | [g2] | or can go to .sda2 or .sdb2 |
| 22:22.39 | [g2] | so the real issue right now is the no /initrd |
| 22:27.20 | rwhitby-away | yeah, I think so |
| 22:28.42 | dyoung | that would be a show stopper, since it will try to pivot the ramdisk to initrd. |
| 22:29.06 | [g2] | I'm testing the addition of /initrd right now |
| 22:29.06 | rwhitby-away | yeah |
| 22:29.22 | rwhitby-away | ok, I'll push the linuxrc changes, then I gotta go to work |
| 22:30.35 | [g2] | I'll push the other changes which will cause the mtdblock4 as the boot device, then it's just a command line tweak for testing switchbox again |
| 22:30.35 | [g2] | and we'll revert when it's working |
| 22:30.36 | rwhitby-away | ok, can you leave the old line in there commented out to make it easy :-) |
| 22:31.26 | [g2] | I've already got stuff locally checked out |
| 22:32.11 | [g2] | there's also the loading of the drivers |
| 22:32.17 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2826.1.1 10openembedded/packages/busybox/ (switchbox-1.00/linuxrc switchbox_1.00.bb): Switchbox fixes for OpenSlug - sdX support |
| 22:33.24 | dyoung | I was about to address that. |
| 22:33.39 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, isn't OpenSlug still picking up switchbox 3.9 ? |
| 22:33.56 | [g2] | or did that get inherited to 4.x |
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| 22:34.35 | dyoung | Unless someone changed it it should still be picking up 3.9 |
| 22:35.23 | dyoung | or does openslug depend on unslung-switchbox? |
| 22:35.36 | dyoung | unslung-switchbox-firmware that is. |
| 22:35.39 | rwhitby-away | nslu2-switchbox-firmware |
| 22:35.40 | [g2] | I think it depends on the unslung-switchbox |
| 22:35.52 | [g2] | yeah that one |
| 22:35.53 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: replace 'openldap probably will build cross' with reason why it doesn't |
| 22:36.03 | dyoung | Ok in that case, its picking up 4.7 now. |
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| 22:36.13 | rwhitby-away | um, no. |
| 22:36.32 | rwhitby-away | oh, yeah |
| 22:36.35 | rwhitby-away | :-) |
| 22:36.44 | rwhitby-away | (I thought you said 3.x for some reason) |
| 22:40.50 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: as soon as you have an initrd and linuxrc, I'll test it again |
| 22:41.12 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, I don't have a linuxrc |
| 22:41.37 | rwhitby-away | how are you going to do pivoting in openslug then ? |
| 22:42.00 | [g2] | touch .sda1/2 or ./sdb1/2 |
| 22:42.05 | [g2] | on the jffs2 |
| 22:42.09 | [g2] | won't that do it ? |
| 22:42.35 | rwhitby-away | should do - but I thought you had a preference for doing that stuff in OpenSlug instead of switchbox, so that it would work the same with Apex |
| 22:43.08 | rwhitby-away | ... same with a kernel command line which bypasses switchbox |
| 22:43.27 | rwhitby-away | (not related to bootloader) |
| 22:43.41 | [g2] | well the kernel command line will bypass switchbox |
| 22:45.02 | rwhitby-away | yep, and won;t you then need a linuxrc to be able to do pivoting to external disk if you are not using switchbox? |
| 22:45.11 | [g2] | for 1.x Beta you wanted to have swithbox right ? |
| 22:45.22 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 22:46.07 | rwhitby-away | I'm just thinking long term that you need a linuxrc |
| 22:49.03 | rwhitby-away | to start with, you could just symlink /linuxrc to /sbin/init :-) |
| 22:49.04 | rwhitby-away | or we could get switchbox to test for /linuxrc, /sbin/init or /bin/init in that order, and just call the first it finds after pivoting |
| 22:49.28 | [g2] | I think that 1 extra test is a good idea |
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| 22:50.09 | rwhitby-away | I wish I knew why my server keeps getting stoned .... |
| 22:50.12 | [g2] | I think that 1 extra test is a good idea |
| 22:51.45 | rwhitby-away | dyoung: we can put a test between the pivot_root and the exec chroot to work out whether to call /linuxrc, /sbin/init or /bin/init (and we can even use a real -x test there too cause symlinks should resolve there) |
| 22:51.50 | rwhitby-away | whaddyathink? |
| 22:52.05 | rwhitby-away | will remove the need for the runboot variable |
| 22:54.32 | rwhitby-away | . /sbin/pivot_root . initrd |
| 22:54.33 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.33 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.33 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.33 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.35 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.35 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.37 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.39 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.43 | rwhitby-away | how's that look? |
| 22:55.33 | [g2] | else runboot=/bin/sh ? |
| 22:55.44 | rwhitby-away | yeah |
| 22:55.46 | [g2] | or initialize that first |
| 22:56.07 | rwhitby-away | added the else |
| 22:56.22 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.22 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.22 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.22 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.22 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.22 | rwhitby-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.24 | rwhitby-away | f |
| 22:57.10 | rwhitby-away | ok, that's nice - works now and allows future expansion without change |
| 22:58.38 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2828.1.1 10openembedded/packages/busybox/switchbox-1.00/linuxrc: Switchbox fixes for OpenSlug - test for runboot |
| 22:59.18 | VoodooZ_home | There's a lot of activity here. |
| 23:04.36 | rwhitby-away | ok, how do we get an initrd into openslug? |
| 23:05.07 | [g2] | I added it to openslug-init and it's in the image dir but not in the jffs2 |
| 23:05.21 | [g2] | I dunno why yet |
| 23:15.39 | rwhitby-away | hmm - does openslug have [ and chroot ? |
| 23:16.12 | rwhitby-away | Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/mtdblock4 ... |
| 23:16.12 | rwhitby-away | . /linuxrc: 166: [: not found |
| 23:16.13 | rwhitby-away | exec: 166: chroot: not found |
| 23:16.13 | rwhitby-away | Freeing init memory: 72K |
| 23:16.25 | rwhitby-away | I manaually put an initrd in the jffs2, and then I get the above |
| 23:16.55 | rwhitby-away | the errors are just after the pivot_root |
| 23:20.33 | [g2] | yeah |
| 23:20.37 | rwhitby-away | ok, openslug needs a chroot exe |
| 23:21.07 | [g2] | I'm trying to remember what that error was |
| 23:22.55 | rwhitby-away | anyway, that's all I have time for - perhaps dyoung can test the new switxchbox with unslung (to make sure I haven't broken it) and then package and upload and change nslu2-switchbox-firmware.bb to use it |
| 23:23.18 | rwhitby-away | [ is found in /usr/bin in openslug |
| 23:23.38 | rwhitby-away | but in /bin in switchbox |
| 23:23.45 | rwhitby-away | I wonder if that is the problem |
| 23:23.57 | rwhitby-away | chroot is really missing, but [ seems to be a different problem |
| 23:24.47 | rwhitby-away | will look at that tonight (unless dyoung gets to it first) |
| 23:25.48 | [g2] | Cryptic addendum: Attempting a pivot_root *inside* linuxrc can produce similar results - because on return from linuxrc the kernel (init/do_mounts_initrd.c) attempts to restore the old root with the assumption that /dev/ram0 is still sitting on /a: |
| 23:28.02 | rwhitby-away | similar results to what? |
| 23:28.37 | [g2] | the environment is still pointing to the old initrd |
| 23:28.52 | [g2] | and so the commands are hosed |
| 23:29.38 | rwhitby-away | ok, we can move the [ tests before the pivot_root and use the -L or -x test |
| 23:29.45 | rwhitby-away | that will fix the [ tests I think |
| 23:29.56 | rwhitby-away | but you need to add a chroot to the busybox in openslug |
| 23:30.49 | [g2] | we'll need to look at it |
| 23:31.01 | [g2] | I'll need to check the switchbox 3.9 |
| 23:31.09 | [g2] | I know I ran into that same issue |
| 23:31.32 | jacques | I think someone removed the chroot - it used to be there |
| 23:31.34 | [g2] | hey check the /etc/fstab |
| 23:31.44 | jacques | my openslug has it |
| 23:31.52 | rwhitby-away | what issue? The problem is that after you pivot_root, you need to have a chroot in the new rootfs and openslug's busybox doesn't have it at the moment. |
| 23:32.03 | [g2] | change the first entry to rootfs / auto |
| 23:32.13 | [g2] | it's pointing at /dev/ram0 |
| 23:33.08 | [g2] | that's what we need to change the default to for unslung and openslug anyway |
| 23:33.57 | [g2] | jbowler left a note in the wiki http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InitrdErrata near the bottom |
| 23:40.53 | rwhitby-away | ok, that's an openslug change, not a switchbox change, right? |
| 23:41.08 | [g2] | it's an nslu2 change |
| 23:41.25 | [g2] | you can locally edit the /etc/fstab |
| 23:41.30 | [g2] | as a test |
| 23:41.34 | rwhitby-away | can't change fstab in unslung |
| 23:42.56 | [g2] | we'll have to figure out how to override that |
| 23:42.59 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2831 10openembedded/packages/busybox/switchbox-1.00/linuxrc: Switchbox fixes for OpenSlug - moved test for runboot before pivot |
| 23:43.14 | rwhitby-away | for unslung? why? |
| 23:43.32 | rwhitby-away | (I agree for openslug it needs to be changed) |
| 23:44.02 | [g2] | not for unslung for openslug |
| 23:44.28 | rwhitby-away | ok |
| 23:44.30 | [g2] | unfortunately it's part of the nslu2 machine stuff |
| 23:46.50 | rwhitby-away | Root filesystem will be mounted from /dev/mtdblock4 ... |
| 23:46.50 | rwhitby-away | exec: 166: chroot: not found |
| 23:46.50 | rwhitby-away | Freeing init memory: 72K |
| 23:46.50 | rwhitby-away | INIT: version 2.86 booting |
| 23:47.05 | rwhitby-away | ok, that's the latest switchbox. as soon as a chroot is added, it should work |
| 23:47.28 | rwhitby-away | (famous last words) |
| 23:47.36 | rwhitby-away | now I *really* gotta go |
| 23:48.50 | dyoung | okay back now. |
| 23:48.56 | dyoung | Wow, you guys have been busy. |
| 23:52.00 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/ (atk.mk gtk+.mk pango.mk): gtk, atk, pango: don't package gtk-doc documentation |
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| 23:57.12 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: gtk+ and friends are ready for testing |