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| 02:33.34 | ByronT | is there a new unslung on the way (meaning should I get the README updates done ASAP)? |
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| 03:17.01 | rwhitby-web | [g2]-away: ping |
| 03:17.30 | ByronT | rwhitby-web, README and NOTES updated and ready for next release |
| 03:18.41 | rwhitby-web | in bk? |
| 03:18.45 | ByronT | yes |
| 03:18.56 | ByronT | just checked to make sure |
| 03:19.00 | rwhitby-web | did you send the changeset to nslu-changesets@lists.sf.net ? |
| 03:19.26 | rwhitby-web | (using "bk send -r <changeset> nslu-changesets@lists.sf.net" after you have subscribed to that list on sf.net nslu project) ? |
| 03:19.44 | ByronT | ah... that was going to be next question... |
| 03:21.40 | rwhitby-web | that's how we notify each other (in addition to the CIA messages in channel) about updates to the bk repo |
| 03:22.11 | ByronT | I'm getting an error after a bk push re CIA |
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| 03:25.32 | rwhitby-web | you can still bk send the changeset even after you have pushed (use bk history I think to make sure the number didn't change on the push) |
| 03:26.13 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: did you catch the [g2] three options earlier re switchbox? |
| 03:26.43 | rwhitby-web | Feb 17 12:24:32 <[g2]> rwhitby, I see three proposals on the table right now: |
| 03:26.52 | rwhitby-web | Feb 17 12:24:54 <[g2]> 1/ make switchbox 4.x work with openslug which you suggested |
| 03:27.02 | rwhitby-web | Feb 17 12:25:56 <[g2]> 2/ stub the rootfs partition where switchbox currently is and put a jffs2 parition right after it that allows the user some tayloring of the boot |
| 03:27.13 | rwhitby-web | Feb 17 12:27:10 <[g2]> 3/ expand the current switchbox to allow booting to either the jffs2 partition, the hd/flashdisk, or using the jffs2 as a mount point / partial overlay |
| 03:27.29 | dyoung-web | isnt 3 == 1 ? |
| 03:27.48 | dyoung-web | (assuming we make it work the way its supoposed to) |
| 03:28.03 | rwhitby-web | That's what I thought (apart from the partial overlay bit at the end, which would be an OpenSlug 2.x thing anyway I would think) |
| 03:28.09 | VoodooZ_home | In my case I'd be happy just booting off the jffs2. |
| 03:28.17 | rwhitby-web | I don't understand #2 ... |
| 03:28.47 | VoodooZ_home | [g2]-away said it worked today but strangely mine crashes with "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel." |
| 03:28.56 | dyoung-web | VoodooZ_home, you would need to change your bootloader to do that; but I can veify that you CAN boot direct to the jffs2 with Apex as your bootloader |
| 03:29.21 | VoodooZ_home | what? [g2] did it today? |
| 03:29.33 | dyoung-web | No, *I* did it last weekend. |
| 03:29.35 | VoodooZ_home | He's the one who said I could bypass it. |
| 03:29.42 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: I thought that the options were hard-coded in our kernel, and had no connection to bootloader? |
| 03:29.45 | dyoung-web | But I flashed it in there with JTAG. ;-) |
| 03:29.58 | rwhitby-web | (the default command line) |
| 03:30.01 | VoodooZ_home | anyways, I just want to speed up my bootup by removing the fluff. |
| 03:30.26 | dyoung-web | Hmm, good point, ATAGis ignored. |
| 03:30.31 | dyoung-web | Youre probably right then, |
| 03:30.32 | VoodooZ_home | well, he was doing something else that didn't require a reflash of the bootloader. |
| 03:30.51 | dyoung-web | Voodooz, what cmdline did you use? |
| 03:30.58 | VoodooZ_home | let me check... |
| 03:31.02 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:31.04 | rwhitby-web | VoodooZ_home: you should be in camp #5 (using APEX) ..... (or is APEX just the implementation for camp #4?) |
| 03:31.23 | VoodooZ_home | I don't mind but I don't have jtag so... |
| 03:31.31 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: bleh indeed - if only they hadn't crippled the command line changing support in redboot .... |
| 03:32.14 | VoodooZ_home | ok, I changed it from: CMDLINE_ROOT = "root=/dev/slug rootfstype=ext2,jffs2 initrd=0x01000000,10M mem=32M@0x00000000" to CMDLINE_ROOT = "root=/dev/mtdblock4 rootfstype=jffs2 mem=32M@0x00000000" in openslug-kernel_2.6.9.bb |
| 03:32.22 | dyoung-web | rwhitby-web: I'm still thinking about what option 2 means... |
| 03:33.10 | VoodooZ_home | Actually, I had the init=/sbin/init option in there too but I just removed it to try again |
| 03:33.27 | VoodooZ_home | Any idea? |
| 03:33.35 | dyoung-web | what does it say one line above that? |
| 03:33.53 | dyoung-web | (or do you have a bootlog you can mail me....) |
| 03:35.22 | VoodooZ_home | dyoung: talking to me? |
| 03:36.07 | VoodooZ_home | sorry, I'm multitasking (badly!) |
| 03:37.46 | dyoung-web | is [g2] talking about a configuration block for (2) ? |
| 03:38.17 | VoodooZ_home | That's the line above: KERNEL_IMAGETYPE = "zImage" CMDLINE_CONSOLE ?= "ttyS0,115200n8" |
| 03:38.55 | dyoung-web | VoodooZ_home: Actually, I mean in the boot log... |
| 03:39.19 | VoodooZ_home | not much to see. but I'll paste it in #flood for you |
| 03:39.49 | dyoung-web | can you mail it to me? I cant get to #flood right now |
| 03:40.06 | VoodooZ_home | ok. What's your email. |
| 03:40.38 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: those three numbered lines were sequential in the logs |
| 03:41.06 | rwhitby-web | oh, you're talking about VoodooZ_home's boot log, not [g2]'s messages in the irc log ... |
| 03:41.38 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: s/stub/stuff/ and the line makes a bit more sense |
| 03:43.21 | dyoung-web | stuff makes sense. |
| 03:43.34 | dyoung-web | I tried snub; but that didnt quite work.,.. |
| 03:43.43 | rwhitby-web | but I don't see the advantages of #2 |
| 03:44.34 | rwhitby-web | if we didn't want to support recovery mode and maintenance mode, then I would say we could get rid of switchbox altogether and just boot straight to jffs2 and let it pivot_root anywhere else .... |
| 03:45.14 | rwhitby-web | but to support Unslung web upgrade, we need a means of *not* mounting the jffs2, but running what is in the jffs2. |
| 03:45.52 | rwhitby-web | (like we do today by creating a big ramdisk, copying the jffs2 contents into it, and real-root-dev'ing to it |
| 03:47.02 | dyoung-web | Right, |
| 03:47.38 | rwhitby-web | so for recovery mode and maintenance mode, we absolutely require an initrd, right? |
| 03:47.42 | kergoth | heh, you can still do that, you'd just have to set up the jffs2 to know how to pivot onto a temporary ramdisk during the upgrade. |
| 03:47.57 | kergoth | if you pivot off the jffs2, it can be unmounted. |
| 03:48.09 | rwhitby-web | true |
| 03:48.30 | rwhitby-web | it seemed easier to do it in switchbox, cause then we didn't have to mess with the Unslung rootfs |
| 03:49.33 | dyoung-web | having a ramdisk makes it a little more idiot-resistant too; since you have a smaller chance of blowing it away. |
| 03:49.56 | rwhitby-web | right, the user can't stuff up our maintenance mode by changing things in the jffs2 rootfs |
| 03:49.59 | dyoung-web | you could accidentally blow away your jffs2 /linuxrc and be unbootable. |
| 03:50.05 | ByronT | idiot-resistant - did someone call for me? |
| 03:51.20 | rwhitby-web | which reminds me - we need a flag file which is written to the jffs2 at the end of switchbox, and then removed at the end of a good boot, and which is also checked for existence at the start of switchbox and causes a drop into recovery mode if it is found. |
| 03:52.03 | rwhitby-web | then a bad change in the jffs2 rc scripts that stop a good boot will cause a drop into recovery mode after power cycling |
| 03:53.45 | rwhitby-web | so anyway, I think we push ahead on unslung 4.x, and modify switchbox 4.x to boot openslug 1.x too (all with the current partition table layouts and root filesytem layouts), and defer any discussion of changing partition tables and stuff for Unslung 5.x/OpenSlug 2.x |
| 03:54.30 | dyoung-web | Ok |
| 03:54.41 | rwhitby-web | and allow APEX to bypass switchbox if it so desires by booting straight from the jffs2 |
| 03:55.00 | dyoung-web | rwhitby-web: when will you be in a position to test build unslung-4 ? |
| 03:55.14 | rwhitby-web | I built it, but haven't flashed it |
| 03:55.57 | dyoung-web | I'm currerntly stuck, and I before going on I want to know if its something about my hardware/flash or if something changed in the build, or ...? Because when I take it apart with slugimage, everything is in the right place. |
| 03:56.16 | dyoung-web | byteswapped, but I think thats od's fault. |
| 03:57.10 | rwhitby-web | Once gastro is doing the builds properly, I can boot up devslug and give it a flash |
| 03:59.40 | ByronT | btw, I did discover that Linksys samba functionality is NOT default samba functionality with regard to the "map system = yes" samba config |
| 04:00.12 | rwhitby-web | right, and unslung functionality matches stock linksys functionality? |
| 04:01.45 | ByronT | it does... but that default is not a samba defualt.. almost as if Linksys is trying to *catch* users telnet/ssh in and chmod 777 |
| 04:03.48 | ByronT | so I could make a correction, and use resling to save that change? |
| 04:08.15 | VoodooZ_home | dyoung, I've loop mounted the ramdisk produced by my build and It appears that /sbin/ doesn't contain an init file. |
| 04:09.01 | VoodooZ_home | there's a few other symlinks pointing to busybox though. |
| 04:09.18 | VoodooZ_home | s/busybox/switchbox |
| 04:10.03 | dyoung-web | thats correct. |
| 04:10.32 | VoodooZ_home | ok. So where would that init be? |
| 04:10.33 | dyoung-web | switchbox is to.. well, switch. |
| 04:10.42 | dyoung-web | the init youre looking for is in the jffs2 |
| 04:10.58 | VoodooZ_home | ok. so the linuxrc file would mount it... |
| 04:11.25 | rwhitby-web | ByronT: yes, you could change it and use resling to save and restore it |
| 04:11.27 | VoodooZ_home | I wonder if [g2] was takling about something else then. |
| 04:11.55 | dyoung-web | right. |
| 04:12.28 | VoodooZ_home | Can I set init to a shell to experiment? |
| 04:12.58 | rwhitby-web | I thought it dropped out to a shell as the last thing it looked for when it couldn't find an init |
| 04:13.07 | VoodooZ_home | doesn't seem to. |
| 04:13.14 | VoodooZ_home | kernel panic. |
| 04:13.41 | dyoung-web | rwhitby-web, voodooz is doing something differnt. |
| 04:13.59 | VoodooZ_home | VFS: Mounted root (jffs2 filesystem) readonly. so it did mount jffs2 |
| 04:14.11 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: I know he's not using switchbox - I thought that the kernel looked for /bin/sh as a last resort if init is not found |
| 04:14.21 | dyoung-web | VoodooZ_home: thats my standard way of chekcing stuff. init=/bin/sh |
| 04:14.32 | dyoung-web | oh yeah, maybe there isnt a bin/sh |
| 04:14.34 | dyoung-web | hmm |
| 04:14.52 | VoodooZ_home | Should I have an initrd line? |
| 04:15.05 | VoodooZ_home | i mean command line option |
| 04:15.08 | rwhitby-web | not if you're intending to bypass switchbox |
| 04:15.17 | VoodooZ_home | thought so.. |
| 04:16.14 | rwhitby-web | do you have a valid /bin/sh and /bin/init in your jffs2 filesystem? |
| 04:17.09 | VoodooZ_home | well, I'm using stock openslug almost so I can only assume there is. |
| 04:17.47 | VoodooZ_home | The ramdisk mount shows one in /sbin but then again, that's not the jffs2. |
| 04:17.59 | rwhitby-web | right - look in the jffs2 |
| 04:18.11 | VoodooZ_home | Can I simply mount it? |
| 04:18.32 | rwhitby-web | don't think so. but you can look in tmp/rootfs in your openslug build |
| 04:18.54 | VoodooZ_home | yeah, plus my work box doesn't have jffs2 support built-in. crap |
| 04:19.34 | VoodooZ_home | under tmp/rootfs I only see dev, etc and usr |
| 04:19.48 | dyoung-web | on the openslug rootfs I built 2 weeks ago, there is a bin/sh -> busybox and a sbin/init -> init.sysvinit |
| 04:20.25 | rwhitby-web | VoodooZ_home: then your jffs2 build is hosed |
| 04:20.52 | VoodooZ_home | That's just great. I didn't change anything and it built fine. |
| 04:21.02 | ByronT | that's always a nice thing to read |
| 04:21.03 | VoodooZ_home | let me compare with an archived tmp |
| 04:21.20 | rwhitby-web | such is life with alpha software ... |
| 04:21.28 | VoodooZ_home | yep. you're right. |
| 04:21.40 | VoodooZ_home | My last backup as a full rootfs. |
| 04:21.43 | VoodooZ_home | strange. |
| 04:21.50 | kergoth | VoodooZ_home: you have a chance to test out the boot time performance of hotplug-ng, no startup script, manually modprobing the ehci/ohci on boot? |
| 04:21.52 | VoodooZ_home | I wonder what changed. |
| 04:22.06 | VoodooZ_home | nope. My jffs2 rootfs is hosed. |
| 04:22.19 | VoodooZ_home | Know of any changes that would cause that? |
| 04:22.22 | ByronT | taking it well though |
| 04:22.40 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:22.55 | VoodooZ_home | WHich package can I clean to try it again? |
| 04:24.19 | VoodooZ_home | Or do I have to do a complete rebuild |
| 04:25.50 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:25.56 | kergoth | to try what? |
| 04:26.30 | VoodooZ_home | To rebuild my fcked up jffs2 rootfs. |
| 04:26.52 | kergoth | you dont have to clean anything. the -image .bb's dont obey stamps, and wipe tmp/rootfs before they run. |
| 04:27.03 | kergoth | just bitbake openslug-image and wait for it to populate the rootfs and produce the .jffs2 |
| 04:27.09 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 04:27.24 | VoodooZ_home | ok thanks |
| 04:28.24 | VoodooZ_home | damn. My build/tmp/rootfs is practically empty. only etc, usr and dev. |
| 04:29.32 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: the image looks fine to me. will have to wait for 6 or 7 hours before I can test it |
| 04:29.50 | rwhitby-web | so I might do a complete rebuild before then just to be sure |
| 04:30.04 | VoodooZ_home | anyways, I'll check with [g2] tommorow. THanks for your help. |
| 04:31.05 | dyoung-web | there was something funky for me during the cpio build part. It wanted to mkdir /usr/share and a bunch o fother stuff in /usr. I didnt bother investigating though, and just moved cpio stuff from a old build there. |
| 04:34.35 | VoodooZ_home | good night |
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| 04:35.46 | rwhitby-web | dyoung-web: are you saying that the OE cpio package is trying to do stuff to /usr/share on the build machine? That's nasty if it's true. |
| 04:39.57 | dyoung-web | Yes, tahts what I'm saying. |
| 04:40.03 | dyoung-web | its like the patch didnt get installed. |
| 04:40.17 | dyoung-web | but I didnt want to screw with it so I applied Ugly Hack (tm). |
| 04:42.17 | rwhitby-web | ok, I'll see if it blows up on my build |
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| 06:09.50 | rwhitby-web | dyoung: cpio fails for me too |
| 06:18.51 | rwhitby-web | back later |
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| 06:20.58 | samms71 | hi all |
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| 06:40.55 | goodnewscd | hi samms |
| 06:41.09 | samms71 | hey..sorry installing gentoo |
| 06:41.30 | goodnewscd | hay...watching TV...:-) |
| 06:41.51 | samms71 | you know anything about ipkg? |
| 06:42.20 | goodnewscd | little, I am new too... |
| 06:42.38 | goodnewscd | what is your question? |
| 06:43.28 | samms71 | ah...well..i'm trying to make a ipkg for apache w/ php but can't figure out the instructions for making ipkg on the nslu2 web site. it seems geared towards making ipkg w/ one package not when you have to compile one/install then compile/install to make one package... |
| 06:44.32 | goodnewscd | It is your choice. |
| 06:44.53 | goodnewscd | you can make one depends on the other. |
| 06:45.16 | samms71 | so do you build two ipkgs? |
| 06:45.18 | goodnewscd | So you end up with two ipk; but user have install both |
| 06:45.39 | goodnewscd | You can build 2. |
| 06:45.42 | samms71 | with apache w/ php you have to compile php make install which copies its files into the apache source tree then you build apache... |
| 06:45.52 | samms71 | static php into apache...not shared. |
| 06:46.19 | goodnewscd | So, in this case, you have to build one ipk. |
| 06:46.42 | goodnewscd | You need to stage the php and build the final. |
| 06:47.08 | samms71 | so build php into apache then just do the ipkg for apache w/ the php libs copied into it..? |
| 06:48.37 | goodnewscd | I think so. You can automate this via the .mk file. |
| 06:49.41 | samms71 | but when you setup teh .ipkg you have to give it a http/ftp site to download teh package from...is this web site the apache.org web site or .... |
| 06:51.18 | goodnewscd | Yes. |
| 06:52.12 | samms71 | so this is where i get confused. if ipkg downloads the source from apache.org. it won't have the php libs already compiled. |
| 06:53.36 | goodnewscd | On the .mk files, you will tell the system to download both apache and php src. |
| 06:54.24 | goodnewscd | And you have tell the build system the order to make/build the apps. |
| 06:55.01 | rwhitby-away | samms71: hi |
| 06:55.01 | samms71 | yeah, i'm not a software guy, i'm an analog ee so i know enough to be dangerous.. |
| 06:55.06 | samms71 | hey |
| 06:55.49 | goodnewscd | It is not that hard ;-) |
| 06:55.58 | rwhitby-10mins | samms71: have an apache.mk and a php.mk |
| 06:56.12 | rwhitby-10mins | have a php-stage target in php.mk which copies files into the staging/... area |
| 06:56.25 | rwhitby-10mins | then grab those files from there after calling make php-stage in apache.mk |
| 06:56.33 | rwhitby-10mins | and copy them to where they are needed in the apache build |
| 06:56.38 | rwhitby-10mins | then package up apache |
| 06:57.11 | samms71 | sorry..i'm dense wrt to software and i think i've build one make file in my life... |
| 06:57.33 | samms71 | i'll try it....though |
| 06:58.04 | jp30 | samms71, you've picked a tough way to learn make :) |
| 06:58.24 | samms71 | hehe..feels like it..gotta go do some web searches on make files..;) |
| 06:58.38 | jp30 | can you not build apache first, then build php using apxs |
| 06:58.56 | samms71 | i tried to build shared libs but ldconfig is missing.at least on my slug |
| 06:59.05 | samms71 | so it couldn't finish the .so's |
| 06:59.26 | jp30 | yes, as on all, but you don't need ldconfig to make a .so |
| 06:59.53 | samms71 | you do if you want to add the .so to ld.so unless you want to have a env variable. right? |
| 06:59.53 | jp30 | ldconfig just managed /etc/ld.so.cache on those systems that have it |
| 07:00.24 | jp30 | on unslung, ld.so will look in /opt/lib without extra intervention |
| 07:00.40 | rwhitby-10mins | samms71: write up the manual steps on a wiki page, and then someone else will be able to create the .mk files. |
| 07:00.42 | rwhitby-10mins | gotta go |
| 07:00.50 | samms71 | ah....ok...that might make things easier... |
| 07:00.52 | samms71 | thx |
| 07:00.56 | jp30 | no probs |
| 07:01.03 | samms71 | cya rwhitby |
| 07:01.19 | samms71 | ok..i gotta run..thx all.. |
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| 07:01.37 | goodnewscd | bye.. |
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| 08:31.47 | ByronT | ~stay |
| 08:31.48 | jbot | woof |
| 08:32.10 | ByronT | ~botsnack |
| 08:32.10 | jbot | thanks, ByronT |
| 08:34.27 | ByronT | time for bed... 2:30AM uggh |
| 08:58.46 | ka6sox-away | nite ByronT-zzZZZzz |
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| 09:15.18 | CIA-10 | 03djf * 10unslung/ (make/lsof.mk sources/lsof/control): lsof: increased version to 4.74 as 4.73 source is no longer on site |
| 09:16.58 | CIA-10 | 03djf * 10unslung/Makefile: demoted freeradius to needs to be fixed |
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| 10:30.02 | giel | ~stay |
| 10:30.05 | jbot | woof |
| 10:52.03 | rwhitby | dyoung: fixed cpio - about to push |
| 10:52.21 | rwhitby | (after I've built unslung 4.x completely) |
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| 10:56.46 | dyoung | What was the fix? |
| 10:57.25 | kolla | hum.. anyone managed to use vfat on sda1? |
| 10:57.46 | kolla | that is.. unslinged, with swap and conf, but data as vfat? |
| 11:05.21 | CIA-10 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2811 10unslung-4.x/packages/cpio/files/install.patch: Fixed cpio (missing $(DESTDIR) terms). |
| 11:08.29 | CIA-10 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3001.1.1 10openembedded/packages/cpio/files/install.patch: Fixed cpio (missing $(DESTDIR) terms). |
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| 13:14.40 | rwhitby | hey shenson |
| 13:26.41 | shenson | greetings |
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| 13:49.14 | Kirk_22 | is anyone using the NSLU2 as a server to boot linux over a network? |
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| 13:49.20 | VoodooZ_log | morning |
| 13:49.51 | giel | morning |
| 13:50.07 | giel | Kirk_22: no, but i recon it won't be too hard |
| 13:50.31 | giel | Kirk_22: i guess you need bootp/dhcp and tftp, all of which a pretty simple |
| 13:51.06 | Tiersten | hey all |
| 13:51.30 | VoodooZ_Work | hey |
| 13:51.54 | Tiersten | VoodooZ_Work: Hows the robot going? |
| 13:52.01 | Kirk_22 | I'm kicking around the idea of using diskless machines for a firewall, web surf station, etc |
| 13:52.31 | VoodooZ_Work | Not bad but I've decided not to go this year as I'm way behind with all the time I spent on the slug. |
| 13:52.48 | Tiersten | heh :) |
| 13:53.01 | VoodooZ_Work | To take a break I'm redesigning my Nerf-bot using the slug and using computer vision to target other robots. |
| 13:53.20 | VoodooZ_Work | I'm having problem with openslug right now so more delays... :) |
| 13:55.09 | VoodooZ_Work | For whatever reason my jffs2 rootfs is completely hosed. |
| 13:55.17 | Tiersten | hmm? whats wrong with it? |
| 13:55.42 | giel | VoodooZ_Work: i've found a book on computer vision here, so if you've got any questions maybe i can look stuff up for you |
| 13:56.08 | VoodooZ_Work | giel: cool .thanks. I've found a lot of great stuff online and in the pdf file you pointed me to. |
| 13:56.36 | VoodooZ_Work | Tiersten: I don't know, that's the thing. build/tmp/rootfs only contains etc,usr and dev after the build. |
| 13:59.09 | VoodooZ_Work | giel: WHat's the name of the book? |
| 13:59.23 | [g2]-away | VoodooZ_Work, I don't know what you did to your jffs2 partition |
| 14:00.06 | VoodooZ_Work | yeah, I didn't change anything. In fact, I wouldn't even know which package it's in! :( |
| 14:00.09 | [g2]-away | I posted the changes and log of booting to jffs2 at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BootDirectlyToJffs2 |
| 14:00.40 | VoodooZ_Work | Do you have an idea where I could look (log?) to start debugging my problem? |
| 14:03.32 | giel | VoodooZ_Work: lemme check |
| 14:04.11 | giel | VoodooZ_Work: Two Dimensional Signal and Image Processing by Lim |
| 14:04.43 | VoodooZ_Work | Cool. I was looking into buying a good one so I'll look it up. |
| 14:04.45 | VoodooZ_Work | thnks |
| 14:05.26 | giel | i dunno if it's a good one though |
| 14:05.33 | giel | i found it here at work :) |
| 14:05.42 | VoodooZ_Work | still |
| 14:06.00 | giel | it covers the theoratical background pretty good as far as i can see |
| 14:06.08 | giel | 2d fourier transformations and the like |
| 14:06.45 | VoodooZ_Work | standard stuff. |
| 14:06.57 | VoodooZ_Work | Those textbooks are pretty all 80$ CDN+ |
| 14:07.09 | VoodooZ_Work | That's why I'm still waiting to find the best one for me. |
| 15:12.21 | giel | hm, i'm gonna write an article on software patents and why they're good |
| 15:12.45 | ByronT | rwhitby, your assumptions were correct... bk send was expecting a command line smtp processor |
| 15:13.24 | giel | i'm fed up with the OSS community attacking a perfectly good law, because they don't know what they're talking about |
| 15:13.51 | [g2]-away | giel, I don't think sw patent make any sense |
| 15:14.05 | ByronT | giel, it's like most everything - there should be a balance |
| 15:14.21 | giel | okay, i'm NOT going to talk about it now, because i'm gonna write it down |
| 15:14.31 | giel | i'll show it to you when my article is done, next week or so |
| 15:14.34 | ByronT | the problem is that as humans we have a real hard time staying away from extremes |
| 15:14.34 | giel | THEN we can discuss |
| 15:14.36 | [g2]-away | it's totally off topic-here and not in line with the discussion rules |
| 15:14.40 | giel | true :) |
| 15:14.51 | giel | i'm called "offtopic" giel |
| 15:14.52 | giel | :P |
| 15:14.53 | [g2]-away | I'm am *VERY* interesting in your point though |
| 15:15.37 | giel | [g2]-away: my main point is that most of the ppl who are against software patents don't know enough about patents in general and software patents in specific to form a well-biased opinion |
| 15:15.41 | giel | and yet, they do |
| 15:16.02 | xav | yeah, like people speaking against death penalty .. |
| 15:16.37 | xav | who de they think they are ? suckers. |
| 15:17.36 | [g2]-away | giel, how big is your linuxrc that can boot to the hd/flash ? |
| 15:18.00 | giel | [g2]-away: 20 lines or so? |
| 15:18.19 | giel | [g2]-away: not even, 15 maybe |
| 15:18.48 | giel | [g2]-away: it loads usb/scsi modules, tries to mount sda2 and find init there, if it does, it runs, if it doesn't, it runs init from jffs2 |
| 15:20.14 | [g2]-away | can you edit it and put a space at the beginning of each line and then paste it here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BootDiscussion |
| 15:20.34 | giel | [g2]-away: tonight, when home |
| 15:20.46 | [g2]-away | that's wonderful, thx |
| 15:21.04 | giel | [g2]-away: but i think i'm gonna ditch the whole initrd and just do a root=/dev/sda2, with a kernel with built in usb/scsi |
| 15:21.14 | giel | not sure tho |
| 15:21.34 | giel | i don't really need fast boot times, and stuff for emergencies are nice too |
| 15:21.59 | [g2]-away | giel, I'm gonna try that too |
| 15:22.40 | [g2] | giel have you tried the hotplug-ng stuff ? |
| 15:23.55 | giel | not yet |
| 15:24.19 | [g2] | Is siddy uClibc too ? |
| 15:27.02 | giel | [g2]: i'll be away for the weekend, so I'll just add my linuxrc tonight |
| 15:27.09 | giel | i'm going to siddy-land :) |
| 15:27.14 | giel | well, and to belgium too |
| 15:28.44 | VoodooZ_Work | Crap! My rootfs is still broken |
| 15:31.18 | VoodooZ_Work | [g2]: In your mtd-utils_20050217.bb file, do you have a patch called file://add-exclusion-to-mkfs-jffs2.patch;patch=1 ? |
| 15:31.48 | [g2] | VoodooZ_Work, I'll check |
| 15:32.28 | [g2] | bash-2.05b$ md5sum ../openembedded/packages/mtd/mtd-utils/add-exclusion-to-mkfs-jffs2.patch |
| 15:32.28 | [g2] | 8a7fd7c668d277c818842c8462b44a71 ../openembedded/packages/mtd/mtd-utils/add-exclusion-to-mkfs-jffs2.patch |
| 15:33.13 | VoodooZ_Work | ok, same here. |
| 15:33.22 | VoodooZ_Work | I have no idea what's going then. |
| 15:33.24 | [g2] | but my mtd is mtd-utils_20050128.bb |
| 15:33.34 | VoodooZ_Work | ummmm. |
| 15:34.01 | VoodooZ_Work | I guess that's not fix for openslug. I might have pulled directly from oe-devel once. |
| 15:34.30 | VoodooZ_Work | How could I revert though? |
| 15:34.34 | [g2] | are you pulling from nslu2-linux ? |
| 15:34.40 | VoodooZ_Work | normally yes. |
| 15:34.59 | VoodooZ_Work | I was too impatient to get the hotplug-ng stuff so I pulled from oe-devel once. |
| 15:35.18 | [g2] | I normall pull from oe-devel |
| 15:35.23 | VoodooZ_Work | really? |
| 15:35.35 | [g2] | sure I change parents often |
| 15:35.40 | VoodooZ_Work | I would just reclone but it's not that easy with all my personal changes. |
| 15:35.53 | VoodooZ_Work | How come you have an old mtd package then? |
| 15:36.23 | VoodooZ_Work | Maybe I could try forcing it to your version. |
| 15:36.24 | [g2] | because today is the 18th and I pulled early yesterday to get the hotplug stuff |
| 15:36.59 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't know. I'm just trying to find something that might have changed. |
| 15:37.16 | [g2] | you did a full rebuild right ? |
| 15:37.43 | VoodooZ_Work | more than one! |
| 15:39.25 | VoodooZ_Work | I just added two lines to my local.conf file to fix the cvs date to yours and I'll try again. |
| 15:39.48 | VoodooZ_Work | would ceaning openslug-image package be enough to rebuild the rootfs? |
| 15:40.54 | [g2] | should be |
| 15:41.35 | VoodooZ_Work | Crap. It still pulled in the latest. |
| 15:42.15 | VoodooZ_Work | Perhaps somebody will get the same problem once they pull in too. |
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| 16:01.46 | Kirk_22 | does rdesktop work as expected? |
| 16:02.03 | giel | depends on what you expect |
| 16:02.09 | giel | but mainly, yes |
| 16:03.00 | Kirk_22 | thanks |
| 16:04.47 | xav | do you guys still use genext2fs somewhere, or have you switched completely to jffs2 ? |
| 16:06.37 | giel | our initrd is ext2 |
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| 16:08.32 | xav | ok, thx |
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| 16:12.41 | ByronT | ~stay |
| 16:12.42 | jbot | woof |
| 16:16.17 | giel | ~botsnack |
| 16:16.17 | jbot | thanks, giel |
| 16:16.19 | giel | np |
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| 16:49.21 | garpinc | Does anyone know the equiv of nohup on nslu2? |
| 16:53.12 | giel | nohup |
| 16:53.35 | giel | i mean, you're running linux, so why should programs suddenly change names? |
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| 17:25.53 | ByronT | uggh... cups is not functioning with libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 17:32.07 | ka6sox-web | welcome to development :) |
| 17:32.21 | ByronT | argghhh! |
| 17:32.31 | ka6sox-web | he he |
| 17:32.40 | ByronT | just trying to follow HowTo.AddPrinter |
| 17:33.11 | ka6sox-web | if you can duplicate it several times then report it as a slugbug if there already isn't one |
| 17:33.45 | ByronT | I assume (feel free to correct me and laugh while doing so) that it means something else on slug is using that library? or the library actually doesn't exist? |
| 17:40.03 | ByronT | ah... I *think* I found it.. cups dependecy on openssl |
| 17:40.10 | ka6sox-web | ) |
| 17:40.23 | ka6sox-web | good deal |
| 17:41.16 | ByronT | ding ding ding - give me a cookie |
| 17:41.44 | ka6sox-web | yay! no slugbug. |
| 17:41.53 | ByronT | yeah.. slugbug |
| 17:42.07 | ByronT | cups needs a dependency set - openssl |
| 17:43.00 | ByronT | just an idea, but how hard to setup a "clean" slug for testing packages to see if they install all of their dependencies by themselves? |
| 17:43.28 | ka6sox-web | put it up on the list...see if it flies. |
| 17:43.35 | ka6sox-web | (it very well might) |
| 17:44.01 | ByronT | maybe I could help... I have an extra slug now |
| 17:46.48 | ka6sox-web | that would be a big help. |
| 17:47.06 | ka6sox-web | testing and verification is an important part of development |
| 17:47.22 | ka6sox-web | s/is/are |
| 17:47.24 | ByronT | testing, verification, documentation.... |
| 17:47.40 | ka6sox-web | yep |
| 17:48.08 | ByronT | you see that I ran down that bk send issue (windows only of course) |
| 17:48.20 | ka6sox-web | yes....wiki page? |
| 17:48.28 | ka6sox-web | (I saw in channel that you had) |
| 17:48.31 | ByronT | BitKeeperXP |
| 17:48.49 | ByronT | you know me, I'm fairly religious about wiki and doco |
| 17:49.52 | ka6sox-web | yep ;) |
| 17:53.47 | ByronT | heh... bug 100 |
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| 18:03.22 | giel | [g2]: i've edited the page |
| 18:04.41 | [g2] | giel, welcome home |
| 18:04.44 | [g2] | thx |
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| 18:05.01 | siddy | hi folks! |
| 18:05.15 | ByronT | what's the *one* thing today siddy? |
| 18:05.16 | [g2] | hey siddy! |
| 18:05.24 | giel | hi siddeh |
| 18:05.29 | VoodooZ_lunch | [g2]: I'm rebuilding with a fresh clone so we'll see what happens with that rootfs crap. |
| 18:05.55 | giel | [g2]: i've added a few lines which i've used for debugging, ie starting telnetd and dropping into a shell |
| 18:05.57 | siddy | I just did an interesting observation concerning those "irq26: nobody cared" errors! |
| 18:06.11 | VoodooZ_lunch | [g2]: btw, I was looking at the update-modules_1.0.bb file and there's the bad call to /etc/init.d/modutils.sh. |
| 18:06.26 | VoodooZ_lunch | it probably would need to be wrapped for 2.4/2.6 |
| 18:07.18 | giel | or make a symlink in 2.6, but that's oogleh |
| 18:07.39 | jacques | siddy, I'm all ears :-) |
| 18:07.48 | VoodooZ_lunch | yeah. |
| 18:07.53 | giel | siddy: me too, ears! |
| 18:08.34 | siddy | they seem to be correlating with alignment-errors, I get ~1000 of them per irq26-error. |
| 18:09.23 | jacques | whoah |
| 18:09.41 | siddy | so, before my test it was: |
| 18:09.42 | siddy | root@slug:~# cat /proc/cpu/alignment |
| 18:09.42 | siddy | User: 0 |
| 18:09.42 | siddy | System: 2536 |
| 18:09.43 | siddy | Skipped: 0 |
| 18:09.43 | siddy | Half: 6 |
| 18:09.43 | siddy | Word: 2530 |
| 18:09.45 | siddy | Multi: 0 |
| 18:10.01 | siddy | then I produced an irq26-error by massive md5summing and got: |
| 18:10.12 | [g2] | siddy can you echo 5 > /proc/cpu/alignment ? |
| 18:10.14 | siddy | # cat /proc/cpu/alignment |
| 18:10.14 | siddy | User: 0 |
| 18:10.14 | siddy | System: 3711 |
| 18:10.14 | siddy | Skipped: 0 |
| 18:10.15 | siddy | Half: 6 |
| 18:10.15 | siddy | Word: 3705 |
| 18:10.16 | siddy | Multi: 0 |
| 18:10.18 | siddy | User faults: 3 (fixup+warn) |
| 18:10.50 | [g2] | ~nslu2-camps |
| 18:10.51 | jbot | methinks nslu2-camps is 1: want full linksys compatibility (including future releases), can load image through web and telnet in to run ipkg, have no clue about redboot, 2: can telnet into redboot and use linux, 3: power user, but no jtag and no custom redboots, 4: bleeding edge - custom redboots, no need or desire for linksys compatibility |
| 18:10.56 | siddy | [g2], there's already a "3" as you can see, should be sufficient. |
| 18:11.07 | jacques | that's interesting - but my openslug has been up for 71 days and I only have System: 6 |
| 18:11.43 | [g2] | siddy, 5 will generate sigbus faults and log the erros |
| 18:11.46 | [g2] | errors |
| 18:12.16 | [g2] | it's happening in a system driver somewhere |
| 18:12.17 | siddy | [g2], but only user-space errors, those 1000 are in kernel and won't be reported (if I understood the docs correctly) |
| 18:13.23 | [g2] | ehci_driver |
| 18:14.05 | jacques | why doesn't my counter show those ? |
| 18:14.40 | siddy | [g2], perhaps, it will probably be one of ehci-hcd, scsi, sd or usb-storage... is there any easy way to find those alignment-errors? |
| 18:15.46 | [g2] | I don't know of any, but Lennert or one of the guys on the list probably knows more |
| 18:17.18 | ByronT | sweet... cups now working |
| 18:17.48 | [g2] | ByronT, cool do you use OE at all ? |
| 18:17.59 | ByronT | not at all |
| 18:18.37 | ka6sox-web | back later |
| 18:18.39 | ByronT | unslung 3.17 and now a linksys r25 <- maybe to be used as "clean" slug for testing packages |
| 18:19.29 | [g2] | Compiling language.c... |
| 18:19.29 | [g2] | language.c: In function `cupsLangGet': |
| 18:19.29 | [g2] | language.c:457: error: `CUPS_LOCALEDIR' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 18:19.33 | siddy | [g2], I could add a little stackdump in alignment.c ... perhaps later today, I'm not in kernel-compilation-mood atm. ;) |
| 18:20.02 | [g2] | siddy, you know the short cut right ? |
| 18:20.16 | siddy | ? |
| 18:20.36 | siddy | oh yes, I know. |
| 18:20.36 | ByronT | does Inge ever come online here? |
| 18:20.36 | [g2] | good. |
| 18:21.01 | [g2] | siddy, THX for working through these issues |
| 18:21.12 | ByronT | ~praise siddy |
| 18:21.14 | jbot | All hail siddy! |
| 18:21.35 | siddy | np, guys! |
| 18:21.37 | ByronT | (maybe that will get siddy into the "mood") |
| 18:22.17 | [g2] | ByronT, got any clue where the CUPS_LOCALEDIR is supposed to come from ? |
| 18:22.24 | siddy | ByronT, not atm, I have to look into my books for another two hours or so, perhaps later. |
| 18:23.01 | [g2] | siddy, did you add the network console stuff to the wiki ? |
| 18:23.24 | siddy | [g2], yeah http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/EnableNetconsole |
| 18:23.35 | [g2] | Cool, I want to try that out later |
| 18:23.38 | [g2] | thx |
| 18:23.58 | siddy | it worked quite good for me, but didn't really help with my Oops. |
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| 18:24.32 | ByronT | [g2]- don't know, but can research |
| 18:24.56 | [g2] | ByronT, openssl builds in OE and cups tries to build |
| 18:32.25 | VoodooZ_lunch | [g2]: THe fresh clone built the rootfs correctly. so It has to be somewhere in my repo. Crap. I guess I have to migrate all my changes again. |
| 18:32.57 | [g2] | VoodooZ_lunch, I was going to let you know that my pull and build just worked |
| 18:33.32 | VoodooZ_lunch | yeah. As usual, it's just me. :( |
| 18:34.03 | VoodooZ_lunch | Which package would you start looking at? |
| 18:35.44 | [g2] | VoodooZ_lunch, didn't you a port a pull the other day ? or forget to the the update part after the pull |
| 18:36.17 | VoodooZ_work | yes. But I did like 6 times since |
| 18:38.51 | VoodooZ_work | I don't mind browsing through packages bb files to compare with the good repo but I don't know where to start to narrow the search |
| 18:39.39 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, I'd just compare the .bb files |
| 18:40.20 | VoodooZ_work | yes, but of which packages in particular? |
| 18:49.34 | VoodooZ_work | [g2]: the .bb files of which packages though? |
| 18:53.06 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, there are only 350ish OpenSlug specific ones |
| 18:53.52 | [g2] | the nslu2-symlinks lets you know almost all the dirs |
| 18:54.29 | [g2] | a "find packages -name "*.bb" gets the list of files to diff |
| 18:54.29 | VoodooZ_work | I know but I thought knowing that my rootfs is hosed would help eliminiate a few at least. |
| 18:55.00 | VoodooZ_work | btw, my fresh repo image booted in ~42seconds. |
| 18:55.30 | [g2] | you could move the tmp directories off some where and diff the tree excluding SCCS too |
| 18:55.37 | VoodooZ_work | Did you also get the: VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev ram0 message on bootup? |
| 18:55.59 | ByronT | ~nslu2-camps |
| 18:56.01 | jbot | it has been said that nslu2-camps is 1: want full linksys compatibility (including future releases), can load image through web and telnet in to run ipkg, have no clue about redboot, 2: can telnet into redboot and use linux, 3: power user, but no jtag and no custom redboots, 4: bleeding edge - custom redboots, no need or desire for linksys compatibility |
| 18:56.10 | VoodooZ_work | I thought about doing that but I have so many private changes that it would be unpractical. |
| 18:56.15 | [g2] | that's because the /etc/fstab / entry has ext2 instead of /mnt/block4 and jffs2 |
| 18:56.22 | VoodooZ_work | true. |
| 18:56.47 | [g2] | I know where the problem is in OE but don't know a clean fix for it |
| 18:57.11 | VoodooZ_work | For the fstab thing? |
| 18:57.16 | [g2] | nod. |
| 18:58.30 | VoodooZ_work | you meant, /dev/mtdblock4 right? |
| 18:59.09 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, yeah for the root device |
| 18:59.24 | VoodooZ_work | yep. worked fine with /dev/mtdblock4 jffs2 |
| 19:02.26 | VoodooZ_work | hotplug-ng definitely is faster. |
| 19:02.54 | [g2] | way faster |
| 19:03.19 | VoodooZ_work | Did kergoth mention anything new about the missing scripts? |
| 19:03.43 | [g2] | no, but I did see a change in the repo today |
| 19:04.02 | VoodooZ_work | yeah, me too. that's why I was wondering. |
| 19:04.29 | VoodooZ_work | also, in your latest pull did you get the 20050217 flavour of mtd-utils? |
| 19:04.35 | [g2] | nod. |
| 19:04.40 | VoodooZ_work | ok. |
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| 19:15.24 | [g2] | giel, do you really insmod the usb/scsi drivers ? |
| 19:17.44 | giel | yeah |
| 19:19.23 | [g2] | ahh.. you don't normally mount the jffs2 partition so you can insmod them from the /mnt/jffs2/..... |
| 19:20.54 | [g2] | I was thinking the thing to do is add a I/O driver that sense the reset button being depressed and adding some feedback on the LEDS |
| 19:21.17 | [g2] | then the conditional part would be based on the user pressing the reset and holding it |
| 19:22.16 | giel | yeah i want led control too |
| 19:22.40 | giel | [g2]: indeed, i don't mount jffs2, i insmod them from switchbox |
| 19:23.17 | giel | [g2]: i'm currently running a kernel without jffs2 compiled in :) |
| 19:23.34 | giel | [g2]: and i'm looking into removing mtd support too |
| 19:23.48 | [g2] | how big is that stuff ? |
| 19:23.52 | giel | dunno |
| 19:24.05 | giel | but i want it because i can :) |
| 19:24.11 | [g2] | nod. |
| 19:24.53 | [g2] | Do you use the second partition or just always boot to hd/flash ? |
| 19:25.09 | giel | hm? |
| 19:25.27 | giel | oh, the second partition happened to be my root |
| 19:25.30 | giel | first is swap |
| 19:25.43 | [g2] | the partition on flash after switchbox |
| 19:25.51 | giel | oh that one |
| 19:25.55 | giel | no, don't use it at all atm |
| 19:25.59 | [g2] | where jffs2 is normally for us |
| 19:26.10 | giel | it only gets used if i boot without the hdd plugged in |
| 19:26.24 | giel | well, not atm, 'cause my kernel doesn't do jffs2 :) |
| 19:26.40 | [g2] | so you build it with ext2 right now |
| 19:26.45 | giel | for the moment i see no need for the flash |
| 19:26.52 | giel | ext2 + ext3 |
| 19:27.18 | [g2] | I meant the rootfs partition type |
| 19:27.26 | giel | rootfs is ext2 |
| 19:27.55 | [g2] | ok so switchbox part and rootfs are both ext2 |
| 19:27.55 | garpinc | giel.. More specifically I can't find nohup exe... |
| 19:28.26 | giel | garpinc: well, maybe it just isn't there |
| 19:28.54 | garpinc | i.e: bash: nohup: command not found |
| 19:29.12 | garpinc | Oh so there is no current nohup as far as you know.. |
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| 19:58.28 | siddy | damn! |
| 19:58.46 | siddy | okay guys, false alarm. |
| 20:00.14 | siddy | looks like the 1k alignment-errors per irq26-msg were triggered by netconsole. :-( |
| 20:00.56 | garpinc | Can anyone confirm nohup command "just isn't there" |
| 20:01.07 | siddy | and the funny thing is: I can't stack-dump the netconsole-errors, because I'll get a nioce recursion if I do so. |
| 20:01.38 | [g2] | siddy, now we know what driver is causing and where :) |
| 20:02.53 | siddy | [g2], yeah, fortunately netconsole.c is quite short, but I can't see where it could cause an alignment-error. |
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| 21:09.36 | rwhitby | bob_tm-away: proftpd still has problems. |
| 21:12.59 | bob_tm-away | Ok - which ones? |
| 21:13.19 | rwhitby | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/unslung/packages/builds/proftpd' |
| 21:13.20 | rwhitby | make[2]: *** [install-man] Error 1 |
| 21:13.39 | rwhitby | . /usr/bin/install: cannot change ownership of . `/home/unslung/packages/builds/proftpd-1.2.10-ipk/opt/man/man8/ftpdctl.8': Operation not permitted |
| 21:13.54 | rwhitby | . /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g root -m 0644 ./src/ftpdctl.8 . /home/unslung/packages/builds/proftpd-1.2.10-ipk/opt/man/man8 |
| 21:14.02 | bob_tm-away | Thanks - I will look into it. |
| 21:14.11 | rwhitby | (those lines are out of order, and have dots added to the start for IRC, but you get the idea) |
| 21:14.21 | bob_tm-away | Sure |
| 21:14.25 | rwhitby | all Unslung packages must build and package as a non-root user |
| 21:14.30 | bob_tm-away | It does not fail on cross, but I removed them anyway |
| 21:14.39 | bob_tm-away | I don't compile as root. |
| 21:14.43 | rwhitby | that failed on cross for me |
| 21:15.03 | rwhitby | giving -o root -g root in an install line will fail for a non-root user |
| 21:15.11 | bob_tm-away | The chown commands don't fail here - they give errors, but they are not fatal. |
| 21:15.42 | bob_tm-away | I will find out why it is still in there |
| 21:15.54 | bob_tm-away | Are they fatal on your setup? |
| 21:16.02 | rwhitby | yes, as they should be |
| 21:16.13 | bob_tm-away | They should be, but they are not here |
| 21:16.17 | rwhitby | ok |
| 21:16.19 | bob_tm-away | Thanks |
| 21:17.15 | rwhitby | [g2]-away: just successfully build openslug-image (linux-hotplug was missing from nslu2-package-symlinks) |
| 21:19.24 | VoodooZ_work | good. |
| 21:19.46 | bob_tm-away | rwhitby: Shit - it wasn't checked in - you're right. |
| 21:20.20 | rwhitby | language .... :-) |
| 21:20.50 | VoodooZ_work | rwhitby, btw, I still have that bad jffs2 root and was wondering which package(s) are responsible for its creation so I can compare them to my working fresh repo. |
| 21:21.58 | rwhitby | VoodooZ_work: my openslug-image tmp/rootfs is complete from the latest repo, so all I can suggest is a complete rebuild |
| 21:22.18 | rwhitby | openslug-image is the one that builds it |
| 21:23.09 | CIA-10 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/proftpd.mk: Replaced proftp install-man with explicit installs of each man page to avoid chown root:root |
| 21:26.50 | VoodooZ_work | the problem is that I have lots of private changes in my current repo. I cloned a fresh repo to see if it worked and it does but I'd rather not have to migrate all my changes to it. ouch. |
| 21:27.18 | VoodooZ_work | I was thinking of comparing the .bb files of the old and new repo to see where the changes are though. |
| 21:27.37 | VoodooZ_work | I'm just trying to narrow down the search a bit. |
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| 21:29.25 | VoodooZ_work | rwhitby-treo: Did you see my last message? (I just realised you were away) |
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| 21:31.19 | VoodooZ_work | the problem is that I have lots of private changes in my current repo. I cloned a fresh repo to see if it worked and it does but I'd rather not have to migrate all my changes to it. ouch. |
| 21:31.35 | VoodooZ_work | I was thinking of comparing the .bb files of the old and new repo to see where the changes are though. I'm just trying to narrow down the search a bit. |
| 21:49.47 | rwhitby-away | VoodooZ_log: I can't really help there ... |
| 21:50.13 | VoodooZ_log | Thanks anyways. I wish I would understand this OE maze. |
| 21:51.34 | VoodooZ_log | oh well, I'm going home. |
| 21:51.36 | VoodooZ_log | later |
| 21:54.24 | rwhitby-away | later |
| 21:57.50 | rwhitby-away | flashing openslug onto devslug now ... |
| 22:02.43 | [g2]-away | rwhitby, I don't think I checked in the hotplug-ng change yet |
| 22:03.01 | [g2]-away | did you just tweak the openslug.conf file ? |
| 22:03.17 | rwhitby | nope, I built from repo with no local changes |
| 22:03.28 | rwhitby | booting now |
| 22:03.32 | [g2]-away | cool |
| 22:03.49 | [g2]-away | did you see the wiki updates that giel did ? |
| 22:03.55 | rwhitby | switchbox seems to have worked fine ... |
| 22:04.12 | [g2]-away | yes 3.9 boots OPenslug |
| 22:04.18 | rwhitby | yep - why don't we have all those modules static for the hardware that is on-board ? |
| 22:04.22 | [g2]-away | 4.7 doesn't |
| 22:04.46 | [g2]-away | we could, but then ppl need to reflash the kernel for module fixes |
| 22:04.54 | [g2]-away | I'll be back in a bit |
| 22:05.18 | rwhitby | for those basic modules I doubt there will be changes that don't have corresponding kernel changes anyway ... |
| 22:05.51 | rwhitby | grep: invalid option -- o |
| 22:05.58 | rwhitby | error on openslug boot |
| 22:06.07 | rwhitby | one of the startup scripts it looks like |
| 22:06.23 | rwhitby | . /usr/lib/ipkg/info/update-modules.postinst: 5: /etc/init.d/modutils.sh: not found |
| 22:06.25 | rwhitby | another error |
| 22:07.28 | rwhitby | Starting portmap daemon: portmap/sbin/portmap already running. |
| 22:08.27 | rwhitby | got prompt |
| 22:08.52 | rwhitby | dropbear works |
| 22:09.18 | rwhitby | root@nslu2:~# df |
| 22:09.19 | rwhitby | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 22:09.19 | rwhitby | . /dev/mtdblock4 6400 4636 1764 72% / |
| 22:09.19 | rwhitby | tmpfs 15324 20 15304 0% /var |
| 22:09.19 | rwhitby | tmpfs 15324 0 15324 0% /media/ram |
| 22:09.53 | rwhitby | [g2]-away: should I debug those errors, or just try switchbox 4 ? |
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| 22:36.13 | rwhitby-away | we need to get openslug to light the ready/status led and disk leds ... :-) |
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| 22:57.45 | garpinc | rwhitby-treo haven't talked in a while... Did you have any problems with the additional packages I checked in? |
| 23:01.06 | [g2]-away | rwhitby-treo, the update-modules is from ipk-update iirc, the grep -o can be fixed with a sed change, but may be gone with hotplug-ng because that's in the hotplug scripts |
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| 23:18.12 | ka6sox | dyoung-onstrike, why? |
| 23:20.30 | dyoung-onstrike | hmm, let me get into character. |
| 23:31.33 | [g2]-away | nslu2-newbie, hey are you mad at me ? |
| 23:31.53 | nslu2-newbie | no, should I be? |
| 23:31.57 | nslu2-newbie | I can be if you like. |
| 23:32.07 | nslu2-newbie | but I need a reason first. |
| 23:32.54 | [g2] | I can probably make you laugh a little |
| 23:35.06 | [g2] | Did you guys see Helmut's pic's of his project ? |
| 23:35.37 | nslu2-newbie | that was a pretty kool app. |
| 23:35.56 | [g2] | I went out and got a battery case and plug for < $5 at the Shack |
| 23:36.19 | dyoung-onstrike | did you cook it when you plugged in the polarity reversed? |
| 23:36.45 | [g2] | I check the polarity |
| 23:36.47 | dyoung-onstrike | heh |
| 23:41.13 | Kirk_22 | i'm guessing that they would run on anything between 4.8v and 6v - anyone know for sure? |
| 23:42.14 | Tiersten | what? the nslu2? |
| 23:42.22 | Kirk_22 | yes |
| 23:42.41 | ka6sox-grinder | uh..not if you want it to live |
| 23:42.42 | Tiersten | Not sure about 6V but 4.8V should be okay |
| 23:43.46 | [g2] | well it'll be 4.8 (4 nimh) |
| 23:44.01 | [g2] | + appears to be the center post |
| 23:44.28 | ka6sox-grinder | brb--rebooting |
| 23:45.45 | Kirk_22 | 6v is only 20% more voltage - when I get a spare, I'll test the smoke output ;-) |
| 23:45.57 | Tiersten | yeah but a lot of things don't like 20% more voltage |
| 23:46.03 | dyoung-onstrike | Is there a regulator onboard? |
| 23:46.17 | Tiersten | there is a 3.3V one |
| 23:46.32 | Tiersten | I don't think there is one for the 5V line |
| 23:46.45 | dyoung-onstrike | whats that '74 running on? |
| 23:46.46 | Tiersten | the NSLU2 itself might survive but I don't think your USB devices would appreciate 6V |
| 23:47.14 | dyoung-onstrike | yeah, thats kindd of what I was thinking too... Cooked USB Bits. |
| 23:47.35 | dyoung-onstrike | You could do Something Ugly (tm) |
| 23:47.37 | Tiersten | My advice is not to try it |
| 23:48.12 | Kirk_22 | 4.8v it is then |
| 23:49.09 | dyoung-onstrike | I'll be doing Something Ugly (tm) myself later. |
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| 23:49.48 | Tiersten | dyoung: Hmmm.... Does it involve a certain chip? :) |
| 23:49.51 | dyoung-onstrike | remotely powered nslu2, so I'm gonna send it 24 or whatever I have lying around up the extra ethernet lines. |
| 23:50.02 | dyoung-onstrike | slap on a PTI somewhere... |
| 23:50.15 | dyoung-onstrike | BAM, 5V. |
| 23:50.30 | dyoung-onstrike | I could put a '244 in there somewhere.... |
| 23:50.31 | dyoung-onstrike | hmm |
| 23:50.32 | Tiersten | PTI? |
| 23:50.46 | Tiersten | You can buy PoE adapters |
| 23:50.55 | Kirk_22 | are USB ports powered on these to the extent that they could power a mini HD? |
| 23:50.59 | dyoung-onstrike | Power Trends makes a cool 78xx pin compatible DC/DC assy. |
| 23:51.24 | dyoung-onstrike | The Cheap PoE adapter is the linksys one; and it cost me ~$30. |
| 23:51.40 | Tiersten | Kirk_22: Mini? |
| 23:51.57 | Kirk_22 | laptop or smaller |
| 23:51.57 | dyoung-onstrike | like the 2.5" drive you have velcro'd to yours I think.... |
| 23:52.33 | Kirk_22 | dyoung- I was actually hoping to put one inside the case |
| 23:52.37 | Tiersten | If the enclosure it is in draws less than 0.5A at 5V then yes |
| 23:52.46 | Tiersten | You can't fit one into the NSLU2 casing |
| 23:53.10 | dyoung-onstrike | Velcro is your friend. |
| 23:53.20 | dyoung-onstrike | so is duct tape. |
| 23:53.40 | Kirk_22 | don't say can't...I have all kinds of tools ;-) |
| 23:53.44 | Kirk_22 | hehe |
| 23:53.49 | Tiersten | You can probably be okay if it draws 1A at 5V. I don't think it's being particularly intelligent regarding the power supply. I think it is just wired to the 5V input.... |
| 23:53.52 | Tiersten | Check on the bare PCB |
| 23:54.09 | Tiersten | It's quite cramped in the NSLU2 casing |
| 23:54.18 | Tiersten | You could wedge a microdrive in there just about |
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| 23:55.46 | Kirk_22 | I'l have to break it apart again later....right now I'm xfering files so I don't want to risk it |
| 23:58.06 | Tiersten | I happen to have a laptop drive handy |
| 23:58.21 | Tiersten | There are bits in the way |
| 23:58.48 | Tiersten | If you can move all the large caps, the RTC battery, buzzer and the ethernet socket then you can fit it in... |
| 23:58.53 | Kirk_22 | how far is it off? |