| 00:21.46 | garpinc | rwhitby-away I added info to the FAQ and HowTo » |
| 00:21.46 | garpinc | TroubleshootADriveNotFormattedCondition |
| 00:22.07 | garpinc | Let me know if I missed anything. |
| 00:23.04 | rwhitby-away | garpinc: excellent, thx |
| 00:24.38 | garpinc | So now do you have any ideas on who I should talk to wrt diversion scripts to solve my problem? |
| 00:25.22 | rwhitby-away | I think Inge and someone else where working on a replacement script for rc.bootbin |
| 00:26.27 | rwhitby-away | jacques: /opt/var/mail/spool |
| 00:26.58 | rwhitby-away | pTweety: bob_tm was writing the PackagingBestPractices page |
| 00:27.57 | jacques | rwhitby-away, where did you get that option ? |
| 00:28.19 | pTweety | found it. thx |
| 00:28.20 | jacques | or did you mean /opt/var/spool/mail ? |
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| 00:28.34 | rwhitby-away | yeah |
| 00:28.52 | rwhitby-away | that one |
| 00:28.54 | jacques | ok cool same page then |
| 00:29.58 | rwhitby-away | back later |
| 00:40.54 | garpinc | Anyone online using a usb hub? |
| 00:41.12 | garpinc | With nslu2 of course. |
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| 00:44.42 | pTweety | night all |
| 00:44.48 | dwb717mayo | anybody got any thoughts on how to fix the sysconf area??? I've done the How-To multiple times and the stuff just doesn't reset!!! |
| 00:51.04 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/sources/mutt/control: initial checkin |
| 00:52.01 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/make/mutt.mk: initial checkin - still undergoing tuning - *not* ready for testing |
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| 01:09.08 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/make/mutt.mk: now strips binaries when packaging |
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| 01:36.19 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/make/mutt.mk: |
| 01:36.19 | CIA-7 | builds cross, added lots of foo-stage, enabled lots of features |
| 01:36.19 | CIA-7 | something this configurable may be difficult to come up with a configuration which satisfies everyone. |
| 01:42.56 | [g2] | hey kergoth thx for fixing the openssl build |
| 01:43.17 | kergoth | np |
| 01:43.34 | kergoth | fired up an openslug build to test out my build of ipsec-tools (needed a 2.6 kernel handy :) |
| 01:43.41 | kergoth | and since ipsec-tools depends on openssl, i got bit |
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| 01:58.13 | [g2] | kergoth, cool, are you actually running OpenSlug ? |
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| 02:05.04 | rwhitby-away | garpinc: I'm running a 7 port hub, with one disk, and two toppies, and a serial cable and an irtans.com device |
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| 02:11.35 | [1]garpinc | rwhitby-away Do you know the specifics as to why NLU2 becomes confused when there are > 2 drives? |
| 02:14.01 | rwhitby-away | kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_scan.c |
| 02:15.01 | rwhitby-away | linksys patched the kernel specifically for two storage devices, so that the mapping between ports and /share directories stays fixed. There are other ways to do that, but that's the way that linksys (or sercomm to be correct) chose. |
| 02:19.39 | NSLU2-IRC | how do I fix the man command so it does not display all the ESC chars? |
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| 02:20.55 | worktoad | sorry about that. How do I fix the man on the nlu2 to not display all the esc chars? |
| 02:21.27 | jacques | worktoad, what are you using as a pager ? |
| 02:21.33 | jacques | less perchance? |
| 02:21.54 | jacques | if so, it's not man's problem; it's less' |
| 02:23.19 | worktoad | more less, i installed busybox and less |
| 02:23.57 | jacques | export LESS=-R |
| 02:25.06 | worktoad | cool. thanks! Have to put that in my profile... |
| 02:25.28 | jacques | yeah, that's what I did |
| 02:25.30 | worktoad | Why does it take so long to load each man page? not nearly as fast as a full fledged box... |
| 02:25.36 | jacques | lol |
| 02:26.04 | worktoad | :) |
| 02:26.12 | jacques | it has to uncompress and format the page before it displays it - formatting is a lot of work |
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| 02:26.23 | rwhitby-away | jacques: can we compile that into less ? |
| 02:26.31 | jacques | could probably rig up pre-formatted pages |
| 02:26.34 | jacques | rwhitby-away, we don't want to |
| 02:26.51 | jacques | the env var is the sway to go IMHO - that's even what gentoo does |
| 02:27.11 | jacques | plus, I'm not sure it's possible to compile in |
| 02:27.44 | jacques | problem with pre-formatted man pages is they are setup for a particular terminal width |
| 02:27.50 | worktoad | ah. thanks |
| 02:27.56 | jacques | there may be more problems, not sure |
| 02:28.30 | jacques | rwhitby-away, it might be possible to put the -R into the man.conf (which we don't have yet :-) |
| 02:29.04 | garpinc | jacques r u using bob_tm's diversion scripts mentioned http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TroubleshootADriveNotFormattedCondition |
| 02:29.23 | jacques | change "PAGER /usr/bin/less -is" to "PAGER /usr/bin/less -isR" perhaps |
| 02:30.17 | jacques | garpinc, no, why do you ask? |
| 02:30.54 | garpinc | I saw your name mentioned. |
| 02:30.58 | jacques | well it would be /opt/bin/less - that was from my desktop |
| 02:31.47 | garpinc | I have a printer with flash card and so it seems I need to disable USB detect and this seems like partial solution to adress this. |
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| 02:32.10 | garpinc | I wanted to know if you had tested it. |
| 02:32.19 | jacques | garpinc, I know nothing about that |
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| 02:33.21 | garpinc | Does it's contents look reasonable to you... i.e: am I in danger of hosing my nslu2 by diverting as described? |
| 02:33.55 | jacques | garpinc, sory I am in the middle of something else and don;t have time to look at that |
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| 02:49.20 | ByronT | hello dyoung |
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| 03:38.06 | rdbatodd | Is there a sftpd avail? |
| 03:39.37 | rdbatodd | Or a way to find out how to further configure ftpd to be more restrictive? |
| 03:42.08 | ByronT | have you searched the wiki? |
| 03:42.43 | rdbatodd | will do. |
| 03:43.33 | ByronT | the developers here take more kindly to questions if they know that you have at the very least done some searching on documentation that they have created |
| 03:44.24 | ByronT | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/Vsftpd |
| 03:45.50 | rdbatodd | thanks. I did look, but obviously not in the right place. |
| 03:46.33 | ByronT | there's a Search Wiki at the bottom left that is very handy |
| 03:46.43 | ByronT | I use it quite a bit ;) |
| 03:46.53 | rdbatodd | I just saw that and did a search. |
| 03:47.18 | rdbatodd | thanks. |
| 03:48.10 | rdbatodd | I have been setting up my nslu2 tonight and am enjoying myself too much. |
| 03:50.43 | rwhitby-away | rdbatodd: openssh has sftp |
| 03:51.43 | ByronT | speaking of developers... :) |
| 03:51.48 | rdbatodd | i chose the dropbear version. |
| 03:51.59 | rdbatodd | maybe i will install openssh tomorrow. thx |
| 03:52.18 | rwhitby-away | dropbear has scp rather than sftp, but yeah, it does basically the sam job |
| 03:52.26 | rwhitby-away | same |
| 03:52.39 | ByronT | rwhitby-away, I haven't had the chance to get to my bk repo to fix up the README and NOTES |
| 03:52.41 | ka6sox-away | openssh has scp too. |
| 03:52.51 | rdbatodd | cool |
| 03:52.57 | ByronT | wife is keeping me away from her iMac... |
| 03:56.09 | dyoung-web | ~lart dyoung-logger |
| 03:56.46 | ka6sox-away | poor logger |
| 03:59.34 | ByronT | <- is also being forced to watch "Cold Mountain"... ugh |
| 04:05.23 | ByronT | well, Renee Zellwinger just ripped the head off a rooster, maybe this movie won't be so bad after all |
| 04:06.02 | jacques | that's a great movie IMHO |
| 04:06.16 | ByronT | slow start.... |
| 04:08.36 | jacques | cyrus-sasl has some bizarre whitespace-related build error on native |
| 04:09.29 | dyoung-web | bizzare white space issues... I get nothing but those when trying to bit bake under osx. because uname -m returns "Power Macintosh", the space makes some configure scripts freak out. |
| 04:09.38 | ByronT | jacques, just tell me that the movie ends "right" |
| 04:09.48 | kergoth | dyoung-web: just override BUILD_OS to something autoconf understands. |
| 04:10.26 | dyoung-web | kergoth, thanks I meant to ask about it yesterday but got distracted. |
| 04:10.46 | kergoth | read bitbake.conf |
| 04:10.49 | kergoth | no one ever does |
| 04:10.51 | kergoth | but seriously |
| 04:10.58 | kergoth | thats where the defaults for variables are generally defined |
| 04:11.06 | kergoth | including BUILD_OS's callout to uname |
| 04:11.56 | jacques | ByronT, I'm not saying anything more :-) |
| 04:12.16 | dyoung-web | I'll check it out when my internet connection doesnt suck. ;-) |
| 04:12.19 | rwhitby-away | jacques: I thought that pTweety fixed that sed in cyrus-sasl |
| 04:12.57 | dyoung-web | In fact I think I'll go home and try it now. Back later. |
| 04:13.12 | rwhitby-away | dyoung-web: install a new uname script which returns hard-coded values you've defined :-) |
| 04:14.16 | jacques | configure: former value: -I/opt/include -I/share/hdd/data/local/home/packages/unslung/unslung/staging/opt/include |
| 04:14.16 | jacques | configure: current value: -I/opt/include -I/share/hdd/data/local/home/packages/unslung/unslung/staging/opt/include |
| 04:14.21 | jacques | etc. |
| 04:16.16 | rwhitby-away | jacques: yeah - he has a sed which is supposed to fix that. |
| 04:16.45 | jacques | rwhitby-away, I just did a cvs up and no change so it must not be committed yet |
| 04:18.06 | rwhitby-away | is there a GNU make function to canonicalise whitespace? |
| 04:18.26 | jacques | would be nice feature but I don't know |
| 04:18.47 | rwhitby-away | ah - $strip |
| 04:20.11 | rwhitby-away | try this .... |
| 04:20.21 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/cyrus-sasl.mk: Replaced the sed's with the $(strip) function. |
| 04:21.16 | rwhitby-away | jacques: agreed on fixing the less -R in the man.conf |
| 04:21.47 | jacques | rwhitby-away, cool :-) |
| 04:22.18 | rwhitby-away | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 04:22.19 | jbot | Well, my work here is done. |
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| 04:22.36 | rwhitby-away | McTails: hey |
| 04:22.45 | McTails | rwhitby-away: Hi |
| 04:22.50 | McTails | It's been awhile since I was last here |
| 04:23.03 | rwhitby-away | McTails: are you able to maintain the packages you have contributed, or do you want use to revert them to common maintainership ? |
| 04:23.22 | McTails | The later please |
| 04:23.26 | rwhitby-away | cool |
| 04:23.51 | McTails | I'm not dead, I'm just having some RL issues, but I'm still following the unslung project, etc. |
| 04:24.04 | jacques | rwhitby-away, I'm trying cyrus-sasl again |
| 04:24.10 | rwhitby-away | so that's inetutils and tcpwrapper which will change from you to nslu2-linux for the maintainer |
| 04:24.17 | McTails | Correct |
| 04:24.35 | ka6sox-away | ~seen siddy |
| 04:24.36 | jbot | siddy <~sid@pD95F94FE.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 2d 8h 2m 7s ago, saying: 'okay, so I'll better skip 2.6.10. But I have a dislike for -rc2's, too buggy in most cases.'. |
| 04:24.46 | McTails | Actually, my slug is also totally unusable at the moment |
| 04:24.56 | McTails | The entire cirect which it's plugged into shorted out (with about half of my house) |
| 04:25.21 | McTails | So until the electrion can fix it, I can't even use my damn thing, and this happened almost a month ago -_-; |
| 04:25.37 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Reverted to common maintainership |
| 04:26.33 | jacques | cyrus-sasl looking better :-) |
| 04:26.47 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Promoted cyrus-sasl to cross and native. |
| 05:04.08 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/samba.mk: Fixed the IPK version. |
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| 05:51.35 | ByronT | anybody up for a stupid *nix question? |
| 05:52.36 | jacques | only if I can give you a stupid answer |
| 05:52.43 | ByronT | :) |
| 05:53.00 | ByronT | I've somehow carped up permissions on my share |
| 05:53.36 | ByronT | chmod -R 770 * makes the dirs visible but the files marked as system |
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| 05:54.03 | ka6sox-away | who is the owner of the files? |
| 05:54.06 | ByronT | chmod -R 660 * makes the files as normal but the folders as hidden |
| 05:54.28 | ByronT | guest in most cases |
| 05:54.48 | ByronT | public share on my home network |
| 05:56.38 | ByronT | any quick easy fix (or a stupid answer)? |
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| 06:03.29 | ByronT | did my really stupid question throw you all for a loop? |
| 06:06.28 | dyoung | what are we trying to do exactly? |
| 06:07.06 | ByronT | public share on my nslu2... files are showing as system files via xp map |
| 06:07.23 | jacques | what's system and hidden? I'm not familiar with those attributes - is that some kinda DOS thing? |
| 06:08.03 | ByronT | jacques, yes |
| 06:08.32 | dyoung | byronT, I think you probably want to do chmod u+rwX * then chmod go+rX * or something along those lines |
| 06:09.39 | ByronT | chmod -R u+rwX * |
| 06:09.53 | ByronT | wrong window... heh |
| 06:11.47 | jacques | cool I never knew about X - that's really useful |
| 06:12.16 | ByronT | yeah, now they show as system files... in effect hidden to command prompt in XP |
| 06:12.57 | dyoung | maybe g+rwX would have a differnt effect? |
| 06:13.23 | ByronT | tyring... |
| 06:13.43 | ByronT | no change |
| 06:15.32 | ByronT | sheesh... this could be real fun... |
| 06:16.20 | ByronT | if I create a new folder from xp, it gets 775 |
| 06:16.44 | ByronT | if I create a file in that folder, it gets 760 |
| 06:17.20 | ka6sox-away | all that is SAMBA doing its thing. |
| 06:17.39 | ka6sox-away | so what you have are SAMBA questions. |
| 06:17.40 | ByronT | is there a way to change just folders to 775? |
| 06:17.56 | ByronT | or just files to 760? |
| 06:18.48 | ByronT | yeah, I figured as much, but either it's real late and/or I suck at googling |
| 06:21.33 | ByronT | if I didn't already have around 30GB sitting on that share, I wouldn't be bugging anyone... |
| 06:21.57 | rwhitby-away | you can't delete anything with chmod :-) |
| 06:21.58 | dyoung | folders to 77n, and files to 66n is ug+rwX |
| 06:22.29 | ka6sox-away | Hi rwhitby-away |
| 06:22.49 | ByronT | oh, I know the files aren't going away... I just can't work with them as I need to |
| 06:23.19 | jbowler | Slow, but it works (assuming the stuff is in '.'): 'find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;' and 'find . -type f -exec chmod 760 {} \;' |
| 06:23.30 | ByronT | maybe a find expression to only locate directories and pipe that into a chmod |
| 06:23.34 | ByronT | ah! |
| 06:24.56 | rwhitby-away | hey ka6sox-away |
| 06:25.02 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libtool.mk: Fixed the version. |
| 06:25.07 | ByronT | thank you jbowler |
| 06:26.47 | jbowler | It worked? Samba can get very confusing... |
| 06:27.19 | ByronT | getting "missing argument to -exec" |
| 06:27.42 | ByronT | but I can fix that one... |
| 06:27.45 | jbowler | Check the '\' before the ; |
| 06:29.35 | jbowler | Also quicker for such things is: 'find . -type d -print | xargs chmod 755', but you need xargs - I can't remember if that's on unslung by default. |
| 06:30.31 | ByronT | actually I've used that format before (to remove the .DS_Store files that Finder of OS X throws all over creation) |
| 06:32.21 | jbowler | That's dangerous because Mac files (and directories) frequently have spaces - the command fails 'cause it splits at the space. The 'find' should work in that case. |
| 06:33.30 | ByronT | I hadn't created any folders with mac on the store... |
| 06:35.10 | ByronT | I got the find -exec to work... I missed the space in between {} and \; |
| 06:36.55 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libtool.mk: Fixed the ipk remove command. |
| 06:51.07 | jbowler | For the record, the Samba problem seems to be that 'map system' is set and this causes the (UNIX) group execute (x) bit to be interpreted on the Windows side as "this is a system file". |
| 06:52.26 | ByronT | according to oreilly.com, that should be a default "No" |
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| 06:55.48 | jbowler | Look at /etc/samba/smb.conf - I just looked at my unslung 20050118 (bitbake) build and it has map system set! |
| 06:57.53 | jbowler | Not in openslug though - i.e. the OpenEmbedded default smb.conf doesn't have the map system attribute set. |
| 06:58.41 | ByronT | I'm glad I could have this problem for samba user's benefit! |
| 07:06.19 | ByronT | well, it's 1AM and I guess I'd better let the mother-in-law get some sleep (she's laying on the sofa in my den as I work on my laptop) |
| 07:06.41 | ByronT | thanks for the help! |
| 07:07.37 | ka6sox-away | ByronT, nite! catch you later. |
| 07:07.56 | ByronT | :) |
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| 07:15.25 | jbowler | rwhitby: question for you; how *do* I report bugs/problems in the uclibc, gcc etc .bb meta data (i.e. to kergoth et al?) |
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| 08:00.36 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/sources/man/man.conf: starter man.conf |
| 08:05.45 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/make/man.mk: now installs starter man.conf |
| 08:09.17 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/make/man.mk: now installs man.conf with 644 perms (why is the template default 755?) |
| 08:10.41 | ka6sox-away | ~hail jacques |
| 08:10.43 | jbot | ACTION bows down to jacques and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 08:17.30 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/template.mk: Changed the perms of config files from 755 to 644. |
| 08:18.14 | jacques | :-D |
| 08:19.26 | jacques | Yes!! I'm reading my IMAPS mail using mutt on the slug!! |
| 08:19.54 | dyoung | Wow |
| 08:20.00 | dyoung | Jacques, what bits are you using? |
| 08:20.13 | dyoung | I'm in a IMAP quandry right now too... |
| 08:20.37 | jacques | dyoung I just copied the .muttrc from my desktop :-) |
| 08:20.58 | jacques | I built mutt for imap and ssl - there's a mutt.mk for it |
| 08:21.10 | jacques | mutt gets imap itself - I'm not using fetchmail or anything |
| 08:21.13 | dyoung | Nice. |
| 08:21.28 | dyoung | I dont know mutt. Sounds like a reason to learn. ;-) |
| 08:21.30 | jacques | tho I have used fetchmail in the past and liked it just fine |
| 08:21.43 | dyoung | Are you running these packages under Unslung? |
| 08:21.45 | jacques | mutt is IMHO the best text more mail client right now |
| 08:22.00 | jacques | dyoung yeah |
| 08:22.14 | jacques | text moDe mail client |
| 08:22.50 | jacques | I'm far from an exper in it tho - I used elm forever - mutt is like the successor to elm (tho technically elm is still being developed) |
| 08:24.10 | jacques | as far as graphical mail clients I don't really know - there's lots |
| 08:25.53 | dyoung | Is there a IMAP server available yet? I havnt been keeping up... |
| 08:26.05 | rwhitby-away | cyrus-sasl |
| 08:26.33 | dyoung | Aha. |
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| 08:26.43 | jacques | yeah the mutt.mk uses that |
| 08:26.53 | dyoung | so I shouldnt be ignoring all the cyrus talk. heh. |
| 08:27.00 | jacques | (don't ask me how but I configured it in and it built) |
| 08:27.44 | jacques | I wish I knew how to configure mutt better - it can do all sorts of cool color stuff |
| 08:28.20 | jacques | lol I just did man muttrc on the slug - it's like a real machine! :-P |
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| 08:28.48 | dyoung | I |
| 08:28.50 | dyoung | I |
| 08:29.01 | dyoung | m sure its faster than my first computer |
| 08:29.07 | jacques | mutt also does MIME |
| 08:29.22 | jacques | which is why I originally started using it (elm didn't at the time) |
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| 09:26.58 | platten | hello |
| 09:27.12 | platten | anybody home? |
| 09:28.02 | platten | does anyone know how I can rescue a drive? |
| 09:28.08 | platten | It mounts but read only |
| 09:28.36 | platten | and scandisk fails (when I run it from the web interface) |
| 09:28.38 | platten | any ideas? |
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| 09:33.02 | rwhitby-away | what's a good nick suffix for "sort of around, and probably looking at IRC every half hour or so for a couple of minutes, but could be called away for an extended period at any time" ? |
| 09:33.14 | dyoung | -around ? |
| 09:33.22 | dyoung | -lurking? |
| 09:33.32 | dyoung | -waldo ? |
| 09:34.20 | dyoung | ~around |
| 09:34.21 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, around is yes, of course |
| 09:35.35 | dyoung | jbot, rwhitby-around <reply> rwhitby-around probably is sort of around, and probably looking at IRC every half hour or so for a couple of minutes, but could be called away for an extended period at any time. |
| 09:35.36 | jbot | that's too long, dyoung |
| 09:35.48 | dyoung | jbot, rwhitby-around is <reply> rwhitby-around probably is sort of around, and probably looking at IRC every half hour or so for a couple of minutes, but could be called away for an extended period at any time. |
| 09:35.49 | jbot | okay, dyoung |
| 09:36.00 | dyoung | ~rwhitby-around |
| 09:36.02 | jbot | rwhitby-around probably is sort of around, and probably looking at IRC every half hour or so for a couple of minutes, but could be called away for an extended period at any time. |
| 09:36.17 | jacques | "probably is sort of" ? heh |
| 09:36.23 | dyoung | bah |
| 09:36.30 | dyoung | My english bites. :P |
| 09:36.55 | dyoung | jbot, no rwhitby-around is <reply> rwhitby-around is probably sort of around, and probably looking at IRC every half hour or so for a couple of minutes, but could be called away for an extended period at any time. |
| 09:36.56 | jbot | dyoung: okay |
| 09:37.09 | dyoung | ~rwhitby-around |
| 09:37.10 | jbot | rwhitby-around is probably sort of around, and probably looking at IRC every half hour or so for a couple of minutes, but could be called away for an extended period at any time. |
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| 10:38.57 | pTweety | caplink811 pointed out that postfix (in current configuration) is able to start when some libs are linked to /lib. |
| 10:39.17 | pTweety | I haven't found a way to work arround this yet |
| 10:39.58 | pTweety | can it be done like this in the ipk? Or do we have a policy not do link something in /lib ? |
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| 10:45.14 | jacques | we should make the packages work with /opt, not go linking things all over the place out of laziness |
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| 11:27.02 | rwhitby-around | jacques: agreed. |
| 11:30.35 | rwhitby-away | pTweety: what options have you exhausted in building postfix to find libraries in /opt/lib instead of in /lib. All the other packages have been modified to do so - I find it difficult (but not impossible) to believe that postfix cannot be similarly adjusted. |
| 11:32.30 | giel | and if all else fails, the source/configure/makefile can be patched to do so |
| 11:32.35 | jacques | sometimes it takes patching or seding source or makefiles |
| 11:39.24 | giel | hm |
| 11:45.28 | CIA-7 | 03djf * 10unslung/Makefile: added mutt and jikes to NATIVE_AND_CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING |
| 11:48.10 | giel | openslug kernel doesn't seem to execute /linuxrc |
| 11:50.52 | pTweety | well, my problem is that I don't know what to adjust |
| 11:51.45 | pTweety | I tried to configure with -DHAS_* and include -I<path> -l<lib> and so on |
| 11:52.02 | pTweety | and -R<path> as well |
| 11:53.43 | pTweety | can some point me to a package where similar problems already have been solved. Then I can learn from this |
| 12:01.47 | rwhitby-away | usually LDFLAGS does the trick |
| 12:10.21 | pTweety | At the moment I don't understand why the STAGING_LDFLAGS are not enough. Maybe, you can point me to a documentation dealing with details of LDFLAGS? |
| 12:12.31 | rwhitby-away | the question will be whether the compilation lines in the resulting Makefile use LDFLAGS, or use something else .. |
| 12:14.42 | pTweety | hm, don't think so |
| 12:14.58 | pTweety | # grep -r LDFLAGS * gives no result |
| 12:15.33 | rwhitby-away | is everything checked into CVS? (i.e. can I build it to look?) |
| 12:15.44 | pTweety | yes |
| 12:16.04 | pTweety | postfix uses some stupid configure process |
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| 12:19.52 | dyoung | does pcre actually work? |
| 12:20.01 | pTweety | IMO yes |
| 12:20.39 | dyoung | I saw some stuff whiz by indicating the use of the x86 compiler |
| 12:20.53 | dyoung | (I havnt tested any of this stuff) |
| 12:23.15 | dyoung | My postfix build is looking in /usr/lib for stuff. |
| 12:23.21 | dyoung | it pretends to build though |
| 12:23.55 | dyoung | "... skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libfoo.so when seaching for -lfoo..." |
| 12:28.36 | pTweety | haven't seen this when playing around with postfix.mk, sorry |
| 12:30.17 | dyoung | What symlinks have you made to make it go? |
| 12:30.49 | pTweety | /opt/lib/libdb* -> /lib |
| 12:31.05 | pTweety | /opt/lib/libsasl2* -> /lib |
| 12:31.32 | pTweety | /opt/lib/libpcre* -> /lib |
| 12:31.44 | pTweety | 9 links in total |
| 12:33.59 | rwhitby-away | the rpath option is not getting compiled in |
| 12:34.17 | rwhitby-away | does setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of the symlinks also make it work? |
| 12:34.25 | pTweety | no |
| 12:34.32 | dyoung | AUXLIBS |
| 12:34.34 | pTweety | hm, stop |
| 12:34.54 | pTweety | havn't testet LD_LIBRARY_PATH with /lib |
| 12:35.05 | pTweety | only with /opt/lib |
| 12:35.13 | pTweety | but that doesn't matter |
| 12:35.23 | pTweety | right? |
| 12:36.06 | pTweety | currently testing with CPPFLAGS included in CCARGS and LDFLAGS includes in AUXLIBS |
| 12:36.17 | dyoung | I du nno, but I think AUXLIBS needs to be furthur inspected. |
| 12:36.37 | pTweety | yepp |
| 12:36.55 | dyoung | Mine says -L/usr/lib in there someplace. |
| 12:37.27 | pTweety | hm, not here |
| 12:37.58 | pTweety | currently: -L/opt/lib -L/share/hdd/data/home/tux/devel/unslung/staging/opt/lib -Wl,-rpath,/opt/lib -lpcre -lnsl -lsasl2 |
| 12:40.04 | pTweety | hm, -ldb is missing. shit |
| 12:51.00 | CIA-7 | 03ptweety * 10unslung/make/postfix.mk: changed the configure options |
| 12:51.57 | pTweety | still comiling, but I think the changed postfix.mk will do better |
| 12:53.38 | pTweety | dyoung: I've added STRIP_COMMAND to groff.mk. Hope this is what you was asking for. |
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| 13:20.33 | rwhitby-away | hey [g2] |
| 13:20.53 | rwhitby | I just initiated the second nslu2-linux donation drive ... |
| 13:21.49 | [g2] | morning rwhitby ! |
| 13:21.53 | [g2] | cool what for ? |
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| 13:22.44 | rwhitby | slugfarm for compiling the feeds |
| 13:23.31 | rwhitby | initially, a slug with disk for ka6sox to put next to builds.nslu2-linux.org (the cross-compilation machine), so we can use that for native compiles and uploads to ipkg.nslu2-linux.org |
| 13:23.50 | rwhitby | we also need some spare cash in case ka6sox gets hit with excess volume charges |
| 13:24.28 | rwhitby | if we get a real lot of dough, we'll buy a beefy box for ka6sox and do unslung and openslug compilations on that. |
| 13:25.09 | [g2] | at some point I'd like to match up sw on OpenSlug |
| 13:25.31 | rwhitby | "match up sw" ? |
| 13:25.47 | [g2] | The other day I did about 16-18 builds for the native toolchain and all but 2 worked fine |
| 13:26.14 | [g2] | maybe it was 3 but I didn't count ed |
| 13:26.37 | [g2] | then I just had a dest of /opt and ipkg installed |
| 13:27.08 | rwhitby | so you're running Unslung packages on OpenSlug? |
| 13:27.26 | [g2] | No I'm building native bb's and running those |
| 13:27.45 | [g2] | native meaning plain 'ol bb xxxx |
| 13:27.54 | rwhitby | (sam_d has the honour of the first $20 donation ...) |
| 13:30.33 | [g2] | if cicso or linksys was smart they'd donate a K or two :) |
| 13:31.15 | [g2] | we should come up with a cool logo and sell tee-shirts :) |
| 13:31.18 | rwhitby | [g2]: yeah native bb's should work fine - as long as they are daemons (where you get into incompatibilities) |
| 13:31.36 | pTweety | rwhitby: postfix runs well without the links in /lib. |
| 13:31.46 | rwhitby | pTweety: congrats! |
| 13:31.49 | pTweety | :-) |
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| 13:32.42 | rwhitby | morning Europe! |
| 13:33.22 | [g2] | I've run php python and some other apps, I'm interested in the install differences |
| 13:33.37 | [g2] | And are we going to follow the new LSB recommendations as a server ? |
| 13:33.48 | perlguru | hi rwhitby |
| 13:33.53 | perlguru | hi [g2] |
| 13:34.07 | [g2] | morning perlguru ! |
| 13:34.16 | [g2] | or afternoon in you case :) |
| 13:34.22 | perlguru | i am installing a new hdd |
| 13:34.39 | perlguru | it's 14:35 |
| 13:34.40 | [g2] | on the desktop ? |
| 13:34.45 | perlguru | no, on slug |
| 13:34.46 | [g2] | GMT+0 |
| 13:34.56 | [g2] | +1 |
| 13:35.04 | [g2] | Paris time :) |
| 13:35.04 | perlguru | +1 |
| 13:35.17 | perlguru | or Amsterdam time ;) |
| 13:35.26 | [g2] | :) |
| 13:35.38 | [g2] | I hear Amsterdam is a nice place |
| 13:35.55 | rwhitby | [g2]: what's that about LSB recommendations? |
| 13:36.39 | [g2] | I was just teasing you a little and wondering if you saw the latest how they are splitting it up into a server and desktop version with module compliance |
| 13:37.26 | rwhitby | ah |
| 13:37.31 | [g2] | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6072478274.html |
| 13:38.37 | [g2] | rwhitby, do you know if usbnet is built in -able ? |
| 13:39.23 | rwhitby | I thought it was modules in both |
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| 13:42.12 | nettie | hi guys, anyone is working on openslug here? |
| 13:42.47 | [g2] | hi nettie I'm running OpenSlug |
| 13:42.58 | nettie | ;) great |
| 13:43.05 | nettie | is it stable? |
| 13:43.16 | nettie | I'm getting the unit in a few days |
| 13:43.36 | nettie | I read that the nic driver needs some testing |
| 13:43.59 | [g2] | Well depends on your definition of stable, but it runs fine for days |
| 13:44.17 | nettie | pretty cool then.. |
| 13:44.18 | [g2] | well usbnet does |
| 13:44.48 | [g2] | the standard ixp NPE runs fine and comes up on first boot |
| 13:44.50 | nettie | what kenrel does it runs? |
| 13:45.00 | [g2] | although the first boot takes a couple minutes |
| 13:45.03 | [g2] | 2.6.9 |
| 13:45.12 | nettie | I se |
| 13:45.13 | nettie | see |
| 13:45.26 | [g2] | hotplug is bloated and takes 2 minutes |
| 13:45.39 | nettie | are you running any kind of ipsec or vpn equivalent software on it? |
| 13:46.23 | nettie | I was interested in cpu prerformance using aes encryption |
| 13:46.29 | nettie | should be pretty neat |
| 13:46.49 | giel | [g2]: i've looked at it a bit, and i think it's all those hotplug scripts which are slow |
| 13:47.00 | [g2] | well the NSLU is doesn't have a bunch of cpu so depending on bit rates that may be an issue |
| 13:47.22 | rwhitby-asleep | night all |
| 13:47.23 | [g2] | rwhitby-asleep, sweet dreams |
| 13:47.30 | nettie | well, I was hoping to get something better than what I actually get on an openwrt |
| 13:47.33 | nettie | aehm |
| 13:47.33 | pTweety | night |
| 13:47.35 | nettie | wrt54gs |
| 13:48.29 | [g2] | nettie you're planning on adding a usb-network adapter |
| 13:48.58 | nettie | [g2] nope.. just use 1 interface |
| 13:49.07 | [g2] | cool |
| 13:49.31 | [g2] | kergoth, was playing openvpn the other day |
| 13:49.42 | [g2] | I think it was openvpn |
| 13:49.57 | [g2] | he added a patch so that openssl builds in OE/BB now |
| 13:50.12 | nettie | the other thing I was going to investgate is related iscsi. |
| 13:50.15 | [g2] | I built it after I saw his patch |
| 13:50.32 | nettie | I would like to patch the kernel and use the sub hd as iscsi device |
| 13:50.35 | [g2] | I think that's virgin ground :) |
| 13:51.24 | [g2] | Last night I plugged in a USB2-to-UBB2 network host bridge |
| 13:51.36 | giel | [g2]: where does the initial ramdisk get built in openslug/oe? |
| 13:51.55 | [g2] | giel, you mean switchbox |
| 13:52.09 | giel | ah, pbly yeah |
| 13:52.10 | [g2] | it's a distro in OE |
| 13:52.30 | [g2] | OpenSlug is running version 3.9 |
| 13:52.31 | giel | hm, what i exactly mean is the ramdisk which ends up in the flash image |
| 13:52.41 | giel | that's switchbox? |
| 13:53.04 | [g2] | it's pulled as a tarball and untarred |
| 13:53.18 | [g2] | and is the ramdisk |
| 13:53.37 | [g2] | It may be going away soon |
| 13:53.51 | [g2] | maybe not |
| 13:54.17 | giel | won't we need a redboot replacement to get rid of it? |
| 13:54.20 | [g2] | ~nslu2-camps |
| 13:54.21 | jbot | from memory, nslu2-camps is 1: want full linksys compatibility (including future releases), can load image through web and telnet in to run ipkg, have no clue about redboot, 2: can telnet into redboot and use linux, 3: power user, but no jtag and no custom redboots, 4: bleeding edge - custom redboots, no need or desire for linksys compatibility |
| 13:54.47 | [g2] | giel, we've build custom redboots and we are testing a custom bootloader called APEX |
| 13:54.52 | giel | ah ok |
| 13:54.56 | [g2] | APEX is 16KB |
| 13:55.04 | giel | well, i won't go there without serial or jtag :) |
| 13:55.22 | giel | i mean, i will if it's sorta stable |
| 13:55.43 | [g2] | well with APEX we are talking about putting usb-serial in the bootloader |
| 13:56.03 | giel | i was planning on changing the linuxrc in the ramdisk to use hdd as root |
| 13:56.07 | [g2] | then you just plug in a compatible dongle and boom, boot cmd line |
| 13:56.51 | [g2] | giel, nod. That's exactly why I was thinking of removing switchbox. It's allow ppl like you to just edit the linuxrc directly |
| 13:57.36 | [g2] | I think the most straight forward situation is having the linuxrc on the jffs2 which gets booted by the kernel |
| 13:57.43 | [g2] | this is for OpenSlug |
| 13:58.05 | giel | yep, i tried putting a linuxrc on jffs2 but it failed |
| 13:58.13 | giel | then it struck me i had to edit the one in the ramdisk |
| 13:58.22 | [g2] | nod |
| 13:59.02 | [g2] | right I was trying to pivot_root on to the hd and I couldn't because init was running |
| 13:59.50 | nettie | [g2] do you get full 100mbit when downlaoding from the usb attached device? |
| 14:01.47 | giel | [g2]: what do you advice: putting the usb modules in the ramdisk or compiling them into the kernel? |
| 14:05.02 | [g2] | nettie do you mean usbnet-adapters |
| 14:05.30 | [g2] | giel, ext2 and jffs2 are built into the kernel |
| 14:05.33 | nettie | [g2] why you say usbnet adapter? |
| 14:05.47 | nettie | [g2] the hd is mounted as block device no? |
| 14:06.23 | [g2] | well usb2.0 runs at 480Mbs so I thought you were talking about a usb network adapter |
| 14:06.38 | nettie | nope |
| 14:06.46 | nettie | I was askign you if the cpu is fast wnought to push 100mbit/s |
| 14:06.53 | nettie | of data from the usb drive |
| 14:07.12 | giel | [g2]: yeah, i know, but to access the hdd i need usbcore, {o,e}hci_hcd, usb_storage, scsi_mod and sd i guess |
| 14:07.13 | [g2] | no it's not |
| 14:07.31 | nettie | [g2] ah.. what should I expect? |
| 14:07.43 | [g2] | however, no one has tuned stuff very much |
| 14:07.56 | [g2] | nettie, depends on the apps running |
| 14:08.26 | [g2] | I think I was doing 75Mbs with UDP and 50Mbs with TCP straight to disk |
| 14:08.34 | [g2] | but that was with ttcp |
| 14:08.45 | nettie | damn.. pretty sucky |
| 14:09.25 | [g2] | I think a big problem is the Intel NPE implementation |
| 14:09.38 | [g2] | it polls at 4K Hertz |
| 14:11.36 | [g2] | nettie, I mean what do you want for $80 US ? |
| 14:11.37 | nettie | well let's say it wont even move with iscsi |
| 14:11.41 | nettie | :) |
| 14:12.10 | [g2] | buy a Kuro box HD or a VIA Mini-itx |
| 14:12.41 | [g2] | I think if you build you own case the VIA's only about 1.5 or 2x the price |
| 14:12.44 | nettie | naja this is cooler :) then I already ordered it eheh |
| 14:13.50 | [g2] | I do think that there may be some room for performance improvement, but few ppl (other than jacques) seem to dig into the issues |
| 14:14.40 | [g2] | giel, all the modules are built and are there |
| 14:15.59 | [g2] | giel, I think that's another reason to remove switchbox, is that many of the dirvers need to built into the kernel |
| 14:16.41 | [g2] | the ixp driver can't be built in by license from Intel, I'm not sure if any other drivers are loaded by switchbox |
| 14:18.52 | [g2] | giel, there aren't any drivers loaded in switchbox except the ixpdriver which may just be switchbox 4.x |
| 14:19.42 | rwhitby-asleep | intel drivers are in the payload, and that is where switchbox loads them from when in recovery mode |
| 14:20.00 | [g2] | giel, one of the things we are looking at (beewoolie) suggested the other day was to append the initrd right after the kernel |
| 14:20.25 | [g2] | rwhitby-asleep, nod. does that happen in 3.x too or just 4.x ? |
| 14:21.19 | [g2] | the other ideas is to have two full kernel / root fs then when upgrading the kernel there's a fall back |
| 14:22.57 | rwhitby-asleep | both |
| 14:24.15 | [g2] | well the first option (append initrd on the end in memory) doesn't help much if the kernel is broken which is the issue at hand to be protected against |
| 14:25.25 | [g2] | there are other classes of problems on the rootfs that don't allow recovery either |
| 14:25.52 | [g2] | I ipkg installed bash the other day in OpenSlug with the dest = /opt |
| 14:26.06 | [g2] | it overwrote the /bin/sh link |
| 14:26.34 | [g2] | when I rebooted /sbin/init was there and switch booted the jffs2 but I was locked out |
| 14:26.34 | [g2] | even on the serial |
| 14:26.39 | [g2] | no shell |
| 14:27.01 | [g2] | I had to create a custom switchbox and load that to recover |
| 14:27.21 | giel | [g2]: i know all that, i'm just doubting if i should make a kernel with the usb and scsi stuff in it, or put the modules in switchbox myself |
| 14:28.07 | [g2] | giel, I think that's not having switchbox makes some sense for guys like you |
| 14:28.25 | [g2] | you build you kernel and rootfs and just load and test them from the Redboot prompt |
| 14:28.39 | glc | g2: you could have redboot loaded into ram unslung V2, mounted and fixed. |
| 14:28.51 | [g2] | after it all works, it gets flashed and its known to pretty much work |
| 14:29.07 | [g2] | glc this is all OpenSlug stuff |
| 14:29.42 | glc | So? You could still relink a missing busybox link ? |
| 14:30.36 | [g2] | glc I just created a switchbox that put me at the prompt, loaded it via the redboot prompt and fixed the link on the rootfs |
| 14:31.34 | [g2] | my point was the extent that switchbox is able to recover from |
| 14:32.07 | [g2] | it's wonderful and provides great options from just redboot and the telnet option |
| 14:32.46 | [g2] | I'm just attempting to understand and make life easiest (on OpenSlug) for guys like giel |
| 14:33.01 | [g2] | running OpenSlug and serial/jtag less |
| 14:33.13 | [g2] | heck, he's not even running glibc |
| 14:33.57 | giel | heh :) |
| 14:34.02 | giel | and happy with it! |
| 14:34.11 | [g2] | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 14:34.12 | jbot | Well, my work here is done. |
| 14:34.22 | [g2] | doh! |
| 14:34.22 | giel | anyway, i'll get some more understanding and update the switchbox wiki page |
| 14:34.30 | giel | 'cause imo it's pretty unclear |
| 14:34.40 | [g2] | giel, look in you sources directory |
| 14:34.42 | glc | I sometimes use Knoppix to fix unbootable 86Linux boxen. Unslung V2.x would be like Knoppix, but you just build your own redboot bootable version for openslug. |
| 14:35.10 | [g2] | just untar switchbox-3.9.tar.gz, then gunzip the switchbox.ext2.gz and loop mount it |
| 14:35.30 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/rc.xinetd.linksys: LPD startup script for Linksys inetd |
| 14:35.34 | giel | heh, i slugtool unpack-ed my image and loopmounted the ramdisk in there :) |
| 14:35.48 | [g2] | giel, that works too |
| 14:35.51 | giel | which is basically the same, i guess |
| 14:35.55 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/cups-lpd: LPD startup script for xinetd |
| 14:36.14 | giel | i'll put the necessary kernel modules in the filesystem, edit linuxrc and pack it up again |
| 14:36.21 | giel | and then load it as ramdisk in redboot |
| 14:36.42 | [g2] | I know you know what you are doing :) |
| 14:37.13 | giel | yeah, it sometimes takes some time to understand what's going on, but in general i do :) |
| 14:37.16 | giel | thnx :) |
| 14:37.32 | [g2] | did you run slugtoo or slugimage |
| 14:37.39 | giel | slugtool |
| 14:37.45 | [g2] | is that the .pl script ? |
| 14:37.48 | giel | i only wish i had more free time :S |
| 14:38.16 | giel | no, it's a binary |
| 14:38.24 | [g2] | you'll want to run slugimage |
| 14:38.29 | rwhitby-asleep | yeah |
| 14:38.42 | [g2] | it's the perl script that rwhitby-asleep and jacques did |
| 14:38.49 | [g2] | slugtool is deprecated |
| 14:39.01 | [g2] | I always confuse the names |
| 14:39.03 | giel | ok |
| 14:39.11 | giel | where i get that? |
| 14:39.29 | rwhitby-asleep | slugtool don't know about jffs2 |
| 14:39.37 | giel | i noticed that |
| 14:39.46 | rwhitby-asleep | CVS nslu.sf.net slugimage module |
| 14:39.56 | giel | ok |
| 14:40.05 | giel | thnx |
| 14:40.05 | rwhitby-asleep | or your nearest bitbake build directory |
| 14:40.16 | giel | oh even better |
| 14:40.25 | giel | could have thought of that myself |
| 14:40.50 | giel | got it |
| 14:40.51 | giel | thnx |
| 14:42.34 | [g2] | thx for chatting, time for breakfast, hope I didn't rant too much :) |
| 14:43.33 | giel | no, it was valueable |
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| 15:08.35 | agf102 | hi, can anyone help me rename my samba shares in unslung3.17 - i could do it in 2.12 by overwriting a file at boot but that doesn't seem to be working now. i'm trying to overwrite the /share/hdd/conf/share/smb.conf and samba.info files at boot, but i still get hte disk 1, admin 1 shares etc.... |
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| 15:50.12 | glc | agf102: Overwrite them before samba starts, not after. |
| 15:52.00 | glc | Did you look at the ones in /share/hdd/conf ? |
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| 16:02.21 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/xinetd.mk: Now using install script to install manuals and binaries |
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| 16:08.58 | NSLU2-IRC | lo all |
| 16:11.15 | amsack | i red the faq about telnetting into my NSLU with pluged in hdd, but i dont get the clou, how to change the password that migth be on MUTIPLE places on the hdd so i can get into it using telnet with plugged HDD ?! |
| 16:11.46 | amsack | is a know i am only able to install the sshd pack if the hdd is pugged in right ? |
| 16:12.13 | amsack | so i NEED the hdd to get ssh woring and therefor i need to telnet to the NLSU with hdd connected !? |
| 16:12.16 | amsack | but how ? |
| 16:37.13 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/proftpd.mk: Reinserted conf file script line |
| 16:39.05 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/make/cups.mk: Several new startup scripts offered and config file detection enabled |
| 16:39.57 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/S89cups-lpd: LPD startup scripr |
| 16:40.42 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/control: Upped version number |
| 16:41.04 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/postinst: Postinstall script |
| 16:41.30 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/cups-install.doc: Postinstall documentation |
| 16:41.46 | CIA-7 | 03ingeba * 10unslung/sources/cups/rc.samba: Samba diversion script |
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| 16:45.01 | platten | say does anyone know why the daap client in xbmc dies after scanning a couple hundred songs? |
| 16:45.06 | platten | is this a common bug? |
| 16:45.54 | bob_tm | platten: I don't know. Do you use daap for other things than xbox? If not, Samba shares are much better. |
| 16:46.56 | platten | well I have a NSLU2 running mt-daapd and I was hoping to use that for music |
| 16:47.29 | platten | I have about 25GB of music and the XBMC doesn't seem to like that amount |
| 16:47.39 | platten | it just hangs on me |
| 16:47.42 | platten | :-\ |
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| 17:41.19 | [g2]-away | giel, would you mind adding yourself to the yahoo openslugger's db ? |
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| 18:11.19 | brokenNSLU | hi, could some one help me? please. |
| 18:17.27 | brokenNSLU | Seems i have messed up my nslu. cant even redboot to it. It just blinks green on Ready/System. |
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| 18:40.40 | ka6sox-away | oops |
| 18:40.50 | glc | brokenNSLU: What did you do? |
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| 18:41.48 | ByronT | hello all |
| 18:43.36 | brokenNSLU | glc: i did UpgradeBusyBox, wich probably wasnt necesary and created /etc/shells and added PATH=/opt/bin:${PATH} to /etc/profiles. i dont think it was nothing more. |
| 18:44.42 | glc | Were you unslung at the time? |
| 18:45.15 | brokenNSLU | sorry im really noob?` unslung? |
| 18:45.38 | brokenNSLU | it was last week i made it. |
| 18:45.52 | glc | Follow wiki instructions on recovering from a bad flash. |
| 18:47.59 | brokenNSLU | glc: ok, i will try it. seems i have to make the serial port to it. |
| 18:48.44 | glc | Loading packages when /opt has not been unslung to a drive will fill your flash memory and sometimes make it non-bootable. You need to follow the instruction on gaining telnet redboot access. |
| 18:48.55 | ByronT | many ppl have been able to recover slug using the telnet redboot access |
| 18:49.31 | brokenNSLU | well i just cant get redboot work anymore :( |
| 18:50.25 | glc | Did you verify redboot access before flashing? |
| 18:50.27 | brokenNSLU | glc: but thanks for the info, i will try to learn more. i have the hard drive formated with nslu so. |
| 18:50.36 | brokenNSLU | glc: yes |
| 18:50.55 | ByronT | you should be able to get there even now, brokenNSLU |
| 18:51.43 | brokenNSLU | ByronT: ok, i will try again. but it did not seem to work anymore. |
| 19:38.37 | brokenNSLU | success finaly got to RedBoot. User Error :] |
| 19:52.58 | brokenNSLU | Thanx. i thinks i will handle it now. I was a bit afraid that i had lost my NSLU. |
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| 19:53.27 | ByronT | another newbie rescue... :) |
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| 20:50.38 | rwhitby-away | COMPSys Workbench (the guys who make the serial port boards that we recommend) have donated $50 :-) |
| 20:51.14 | ByronT | hello rwhitby |
| 20:51.20 | dyoung | Wow, that was nice of them. |
| 20:51.24 | rwhitby | g'day |
| 20:51.42 | rwhitby | I guess we must have sent a bit of business their way ... |
| 20:57.10 | ByronT | I've finally have things running where I can work from my pc... I only have to go the wife's iMac to run the bk citool |
| 20:57.33 | rwhitby | Excellent. |
| 20:58.48 | ByronT | I put a warning for dialup users in the wiki for bitkeeper... bk clone was around 120MB... |
| 20:58.53 | rwhitby | $130 in donations overnight. |
| 21:00.21 | dyoung | Thts pretty impressive. |
| 21:00.42 | ByronT | has Linksys donated? (they should!) |
| 21:07.45 | rwhitby | I wonder how much ka6sox has paid for NativeSlug and SlugDisk ... |
| 21:09.46 | ka6sox-away | $80 for the Slug. |
| 21:10.15 | ka6sox-away | and I'll have to look up the SlugDisk. |
| 21:10.30 | rwhitby | There was $45 of donations that I had to refuse cause they were sent to the wrong account :-( |
| 21:10.55 | rwhitby | ka6sox-away: at this rate we should have it covered in the next couple of days. |
| 21:11.02 | ka6sox-away | okay cool. |
| 21:11.18 | ka6sox-away | I saw the appeal to replace poor builds. |
| 21:13.14 | rwhitby | hopefully we can get a kick ass machine ... |
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| 21:15.04 | ByronT | gotta go |
| 21:19.53 | ka6sox-away | rwhitby: what do we want/ |
| 21:19.54 | ka6sox-away | ? |
| 21:20.37 | rwhitby | depends on how much dough we raise |
| 21:20.48 | ka6sox-away | :) |
| 21:21.07 | rwhitby | something that can build the firmware in an hour would be nice .... |
| 21:21.18 | ka6sox-away | that would be nice. |
| 21:21.38 | rwhitby | if the donation drive is a washout, we might only be able to buy RAM for builds .... |
| 21:21.44 | ka6sox-away | what class of machine is that? |
| 21:21.53 | ka6sox-away | I have another box...with DDR instead. |
| 21:22.34 | ka6sox-away | (and 512MB of it) |
| 21:24.22 | rwhitby | I think we need at least a gig (or bitbake-ng) for fast firmware builds as well as doing other stuff (like CVS) at the same time. |
| 21:27.37 | rwhitby | ka6sox-away: can you handle bank transfers for people who don't want to or can't use paypal? |
| 21:28.29 | rwhitby | I'm looking for someone in Europe to accept bank transfers and then make a paypal donation of the combined amount. |
| 21:31.30 | rwhitby | bbiab |
| 21:31.50 | ka6sox-away | I think so. |
| 21:32.43 | rwhitby-away | I have no idea about the security of giving people your US bank account details, so you'll have to protect yourself as you see fit there ... |
| 21:32.59 | ka6sox-away | I'll talk to my Bank about it. |
| 21:34.12 | rwhitby-away | .... another $35 rolls in ... |
| 21:34.38 | ka6sox-away | wow...we *may* get this yet! |
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| 21:34.44 | MooZ | hy |
| 21:34.50 | ka6sox-away | yo! |
| 21:35.51 | MooZ | what's up? |
| 21:36.02 | MooZ | woo there's a lot of people here now |
| 21:36.54 | ka6sox-away | yeah...a lot more than usual. |
| 21:39.19 | ka6sox-away | I'm working on building a SlugFarm. |
| 21:40.40 | MooZ | is it the compile farm of the ml? |
| 21:40.57 | ka6sox-away | ml? |
| 21:41.19 | MooZ | mailing list |
| 21:41.27 | ka6sox-away | yes |
| 21:44.21 | ka6sox-away | looking at distcc to see how we could use it to improve native builds. |
| 21:44.39 | MooZ | i've never played with it |
| 21:44.55 | MooZ | some colleagues used it to build kernels |
| 21:45.20 | ka6sox-away | I think it might help here since we have such a slow machine. |
| 21:46.41 | MooZ | why not ask people to create some ssh accessible accounts on some machines? |
| 21:47.20 | ka6sox-away | some Slugs? |
| 21:47.31 | ka6sox-away | oooh..that would be good. |
| 21:47.43 | ka6sox-away | distributed across the world...cool! |
| 21:47.50 | MooZ | p2p farm :) |
| 21:49.11 | MooZ | i need to find time to put unslug on my slug |
| 21:52.47 | ka6sox-away | looks like I might be busy this week putting a build system togeher. |
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| 21:59.04 | dyoung | Hi JimBuzbee |
| 21:59.24 | jimbuzbee | Hey dyoung! How's it going? |
| 21:59.32 | dyoung | Not bad, and you? |
| 21:59.45 | dyoung | Any cool articles I should be checking up on? |
| 22:00.14 | jimbuzbee | Staying busy. I've got another Intel IXDP425 box I'm working on |
| 22:00.33 | dyoung | Cool. |
| 22:00.52 | dyoung | Is that the Linksys "residential gateway" by chance? |
| 22:01.21 | jimbuzbee | No, it's a Synology box. Similar to the Kuro - No hard drive included |
| 22:02.21 | CIA-7 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (4 files in 2 dirs): added pkgconfig |
| 22:03.07 | dyoung | WOW, you got one of those?? |
| 22:03.16 | jimbuzbee | DS-101? |
| 22:03.17 | dyoung | [g2] was trying to get his paws on one |
| 22:03.59 | jimbuzbee | I've just started playing with it. It seems to be well done. 3 USB 2.0 ports, 10/100, 64 meg ram |
| 22:04.12 | dyoung | Yeah, the 64M was inviting! |
| 22:04.22 | dyoung | we've already taken apart the firmware for it. |
| 22:04.47 | jimbuzbee | Have you? What did you guys find? I see a modified Reiser along with the usual suspects |
| 22:05.24 | dyoung | Spent only 30min diddling it. Nothing of interest. Other than it seems to have everything including the kitchen sink in the kernel. |
| 22:05.40 | dyoung | "nothing *special* of interest |
| 22:05.45 | dyoung | gphoto was in there |
| 22:05.50 | dyoung | I thought that was kind of neat |
| 22:06.05 | jimbuzbee | Yes - although I don't have anything compatible with it |
| 22:06.31 | jimbuzbee | I tired to mount the filesystem - but it has been hacked (no-standard) |
| 22:06.36 | jimbuzbee | non |
| 22:06.46 | dyoung | Really? |
| 22:06.51 | dyoung | Maybe it changed |
| 22:06.55 | dyoung | these a new firmware image now |
| 22:07.02 | dyoung | the old one I was able to loopback mount |
| 22:07.35 | jimbuzbee | The Reiser signature was changed to be SynO (something) |
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| 22:08.06 | dyoung | Yeah, I was working with the 11/17 fw version. |
| 22:08.12 | dyoung | that one had a file rd.gz |
| 22:08.58 | dyoung | 10/13 rather. |
| 22:09.13 | dyoung | is the new one 2.4 or 2.6 ? |
| 22:09.15 | jimbuzbee | Mine is version 2.0.1 |
| 22:09.30 | jimbuzbee | Kernel version, I don't know yet |
| 22:10.02 | dyoung | thats the same number I have. 2.0.1 build 0116 dated 2004/10/13 |
| 22:11.05 | jimbuzbee | I re-wrote the Reiser magic number on the hard drive and was able to mount the partion, but trying to look at any files gave me a "file does not exist" type error |
| 22:11.28 | jimbuzbee | number==signature |
| 22:11.32 | dyoung | Mst be differnt version.. this one is really a ramdisk image |
| 22:12.19 | jimbuzbee | Yeah, I was looking at the rd one as well, but I was trying to get it to start telnet when booting off the hard drive |
| 22:12.36 | dyoung | Can you get the box in the US now? |
| 22:12.44 | dyoung | when we were looking at it, it was not readiliy availible. |
| 22:13.05 | jimbuzbee | I don't think so. I've only seen it offered in Europe/Australia/Asia |
| 22:13.22 | jimbuzbee | Want to see a picture of the main-board? |
| 22:14.04 | dyoung | Yeah! |
| 22:14.15 | dyoung | [g2] will be interested too. |
| 22:14.17 | jimbuzbee | http://ds101.homelinux.org/ |
| 22:15.32 | dyoung | Aww, its a ixp420. |
| 22:15.41 | dyoung | I was hoping it would be a honest to god ixp425. |
| 22:15.52 | jimbuzbee | I don't remember the difference |
| 22:16.03 | dyoung | Crypto. |
| 22:16.08 | jimbuzbee | Ah |
| 22:16.15 | dyoung | Nice of them to add and label a JTAG Connector. |
| 22:16.27 | dyoung | Theres an additional DMA processor too, iirc. |
| 22:16.29 | jimbuzbee | You guys pick up a lot more than me! |
| 22:16.50 | dyoung | Have you tried plugging anything in the "COM" port yet? |
| 22:17.00 | dyoung | get a bootlog, etc? |
| 22:17.25 | jimbuzbee | No, I've really just been writing a review of the standard functionality. |
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| 22:17.32 | dyoung | heh |
| 22:17.37 | dyoung | Of course! |
| 22:17.45 | jimbuzbee | Well, maybe just a little more than standard... |
| 22:18.06 | dyoung | I wanna get my hands on one of these now |
| 22:18.16 | dyoung | I wonder if anyone has tried to populate the MiniPCI slot yet. |
| 22:18.36 | jimbuzbee | I couldn't find a whole lot of info about it. |
| 22:20.13 | dyoung | Not everyone is as hardcore as JimBuzbee. ;-) |
| 22:20.24 | ka6sox-away | yep |
| 22:20.30 | dyoung | Voiding the warantee within days (hours?) of receiving the unit. |
| 22:20.33 | jimbuzbee | Hey, I don't compare to you guys! |
| 22:20.44 | jimbuzbee | Hours... |
| 22:20.51 | dyoung | hehe |
| 22:20.53 | ka6sox-away | try minutes with me. |
| 22:21.00 | dyoung | Same here. |
| 22:21.00 | ka6sox-away | hacking in more ram. |
| 22:21.09 | jimbuzbee | That's hard-core! |
| 22:21.19 | ka6sox-away | and adding JTAG/Serial/Extra USB |
| 22:21.23 | dyoung | "Okay it turns on, lets take it apart." |
| 22:22.23 | dyoung | jimbuzbee, if you find a good source for these things in north america, lemme know please. I'm interested in "playing" with one of these. |
| 22:22.49 | jimbuzbee | I was told that they will be widely available "soon" whatever that means |
| 22:23.47 | dyoung | Cool. |
| 22:24.01 | dyoung | I need to go to RoadRammer customer Service. |
| 22:24.10 | dyoung | Thanks for the link Jimbuzbee! |
| 22:24.19 | dyoung | that was very educational |
| 22:24.19 | jimbuzbee | Sure - Be seeing you! |
| 22:24.44 | dyoung | Back later |
| 22:24.49 | jimbuzbee | Bye |
| 22:24.50 | dyoung | ~kick dyoung-logger |
| 22:24.52 | jbot | bugger off sod! |
| 22:25.38 | ka6sox-away | rats...missed him. |
| 22:26.23 | ka6sox-away | jimbuzbee, you ever played with a BDI2000? |
| 22:26.34 | jimbuzbee | No, what's that? |
| 22:27.01 | ka6sox-away | a $2000 JTAG programmer/debugger |
| 22:27.22 | jimbuzbee | Ah, I'm a S/W guy. Those things -scare- me! |
| 22:27.55 | ka6sox-away | there are a bunch of crazies who are working to get a SLUG to replace one of them. |
| 22:28.32 | jimbuzbee | :-) That's the beauty of this thing - It's cheap enough to try lots of different things! |
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| 22:29.57 | ka6sox-away | you are the guy I get to blame for this obsession. |
| 22:30.01 | ka6sox-away | :) |
| 22:30.25 | jimbuzbee | :-) I was just playing - Rod is really the one to blame! |
| 22:30.35 | ka6sox-away | (jimbuzbee) |
| 22:31.14 | ka6sox-away | well...between the 2 of you I am spending more time and energy than I ever thought I would on a OpenSource project. |
| 22:31.23 | ka6sox-away | ....and LOVING it. |
| 22:31.48 | jimbuzbee | That's cool. It's been a big experience for me as well. |
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| 22:33.01 | rwhitby-away | ... another $50 donation rolls in ... |
| 22:33.44 | pTweety | hi, have i missed something |
| 22:34.09 | pTweety | do you collect some money? |
| 22:34.28 | rwhitby-away | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/4083 |
| 22:34.59 | ka6sox-away | I hope that we *can* get that new builds machine. |
| 22:35.31 | ka6sox-away | just as long as its NOT a Prescott Room Heater... |
| 22:38.05 | ka6sox-away | ;) |
| 22:47.30 | MooZ | how much money raised so far? |
| 22:48.11 | ka6sox-away | dunno... |
| 22:49.10 | rwhitby-away | about $200 |
| 22:49.19 | rwhitby-away | back later |
| 22:49.43 | MooZ | k |
| 22:51.28 | rwhitby-away | bob_tm-away: cups is broken - you need to fix CONFFILES cause you moved them |
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| 23:10.05 | samms71 | hi all, i need some help making a ipk... |
| 23:11.14 | samms71 | i built apache 1.3.33 w/ php but the ipk instructions seem to indicate creating a package based on sources not compiled yet. shouldn't the ipk i create be for the binaries so peipke can install them on their slugs? |
| 23:11.27 | samms71 | err..people can install |
| 23:11.38 | CIA-7 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: pkgconfig is ready for testing |
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| 23:12.49 | samms71 | sorry..did anyone reply? i lost my irc connection... |
| 23:13.57 | MooZ | nop |
| 23:14.21 | samms71 | k |
| 23:14.58 | MooZ | i haven't played with ipkg yet |
| 23:15.54 | samms71 | k...i'll dink around some more than...thx |
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| 23:35.25 | jacques | an Athlon XP 2500+ with a dual-channel ram chipset (like NF2) and 1GB ram can build unslung in about an hour |
| 23:35.47 | jacques | some of the athlon64's might be a better value these days tho |
| 23:41.38 | MooZ | yes |
| 23:43.03 | MooZ | bye |
| 23:49.32 | CIA-7 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/gtk+.mk sources/gtk+/postinst): gtk+: use gconv modules from crosstool-native |
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| 23:56.18 | CIA-7 | 03ptweety * 10unslung/ (make/cyrus-sasl.mk sources/cyrus-sasl/control): moved /var/state/saslauthd to /opt |