| 00:00.43 | [g2] | nod. |
| 00:02.22 | rwhitby-away | but that doesn't help VoodooZ, unless he keeps up with the regular alpha releases ... |
| 00:02.56 | rwhitby-away | and he can't expect stability from an alpha release |
| 00:03.22 | rwhitby-away | VoodooZ: sorry about talking about you in the third person if you are here .... |
| 00:03.26 | [g2] | sure it does. He baseline's on a alpha works on his apps for a little while, then merges onto a later alpha |
| 00:04.05 | rwhitby-away | ok, if that is all he wants then we're golden |
| 00:04.31 | rwhitby-away | but you still need to retain the ability to make incompatible changes between alpha releases |
| 00:04.41 | rwhitby-away | "reserve the right" |
| 00:06.30 | jacques | like I said above, I don't see how that can be avoided |
| 00:06.55 | [g2] | absolutely, no guarentees between snapshots |
| 00:07.28 | [g2] | except when the next snapshot is just a simple patch :) |
| 00:12.42 | rwhitby-away | between alpha releases. please reserve the snapshot term for something which happens automatically with no guarantees of even working |
| 00:21.55 | Christopher | i just ordered a usb 2.0 ethernet adapter for my slug :-) |
| 00:27.02 | rwhitby-away | that reminds me, I need to buy that enclosure and drop in at work to pick up my disk |
| 00:28.21 | jacques | yeah! |
| 00:29.52 | Christopher | bob_tm is a modules wiz |
| 00:30.19 | rwhitby-away | we need to get bob_tm working on how to release kernel module ipks |
| 00:30.28 | Christopher | yeah, that'd be cool |
| 00:30.48 | Christopher | was there talk a while back about putting devfs in unslung? |
| 00:31.18 | jacques | i doubt it - that sounds rather incompatible with stock |
| 00:31.59 | Christopher | ok, just thought I heard something about it |
| 00:32.15 | jacques | well I could be wrong |
| 00:32.54 | jacques | speaking of which, I fixed a "not enough pty's" problem yesterday on unslung by mounting /dev/pts |
| 00:33.02 | Christopher | well, i was thinking it was you who said something, so I'm probably in error :-) |
| 00:34.07 | jacques | which usb NIC did you order? |
| 00:34.16 | Christopher | the netgear fa120 |
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| 00:34.58 | Christopher | same chipset as the d-link DUB E100, but cheaper |
| 00:35.09 | rwhitby-away | there's devfs and devsf_mount - I expect the first might be fine (and I think that's all that the modules need) |
| 00:35.12 | jacques | which cnhipset? |
| 00:35.21 | rwhitby-away | we just need to make sure that the /dev/sda1 devices remain |
| 00:36.10 | Christopher | ASIX AX88172 |
| 00:36.36 | Christopher | which is listed in defconfig |
| 00:36.46 | jacques | cool, I'll be waiting to see how it works for you :-) |
| 00:37.15 | jacques | i was looking at webcams today, but I'm not sure I can find onel locally that would work on the slug |
| 00:37.25 | Christopher | yeah, I have to get my radius server on the wan port of my wireless router so that I can actually use it |
| 00:37.38 | Christopher | my router will only look on the lan for RADIUS, not on the LAN |
| 00:38.05 | Christopher | ooops, meant it will look on the WAN not the LAN |
| 00:38.21 | Christopher | what are you going to use the webcam for? |
| 00:38.59 | jacques | eventually remote monitoring |
| 00:39.14 | Christopher | cool |
| 00:41.18 | jacques | well binutils-2.15.94.0.2 's ld seems to pass a lot of critical tests that 2.15 fails |
| 00:41.29 | jacques | I'm going to test a few more versions |
| 00:41.54 | jacques | then it's onto gcc and glibc (ugh) |
| 00:44.53 | jacques | dangit I need more slugs but I dont want to pay the $100 local radio shack wants |
| 00:45.05 | jacques | guess I'll have to order some |
| 00:46.19 | kergoth | i should actually _use_ my slug for something. |
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| 00:49.12 | jacques | I have one running openslug devel env and other running unslung devel env, which leaves nothing for testing new openslug nor unslung releases much less production use :-( |
| 00:49.36 | jacques | much much less upcoming distcc testing :-D |
| 00:50.05 | kergoth | what do you do with the running ones? |
| 00:50.50 | jacques | right now I'm building binutils versions and running the testsuites on the unslung one |
| 00:50.57 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:51.39 | jacques | on the openslug one, I'm not doing anything this second, but I'm chrooted into a oe-built native devel env |
| 00:51.58 | jacques | which seems to work pretty well - it builds perl and passes all tests |
| 00:52.49 | jacques | openslug one has a 40GB laptop drive attached, unslung has a 120GB desktop drive |
| 00:53.06 | kergoth | ah cool |
| 00:53.16 | rwhitby-away | anyone know what chipset the New Motion HD25U2S enclosure has in it? |
| 00:53.29 | jacques | root@nslu2:~# uptime |
| 00:53.29 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.31 | jacques | :-D |
| 00:54.03 | Christopher | cups built! |
| 00:54.10 | Christopher | now to make sure it runs |
| 00:54.10 | jacques | rwhitby-away, you at the store? can't google? want me to try to find out? |
| 00:54.21 | rwhitby-away | I'm at home, but busy |
| 00:54.26 | rwhitby-away | going to store soon |
| 00:54.26 | jacques | ah :-P |
| 00:54.31 | rwhitby-away | please :-) |
| 00:56.20 | Christopher | there's a new motion enclosure that uses the oxford 922, but it doesn't give the model number of the enclosure |
| 00:56.53 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.53 | jacques | can benefit from the popularity and speed coming with USB2.0 interface compatible with Mac and PC |
| 00:57.12 | jacques | lol |
| 00:58.01 | jacques | all I'm finding is online stores. they never say |
| 01:12.24 | rwhitby-away | how about this one: http://www.fujitsu.com/downloads/AU/DYNADISQ_Brochure.pdf |
| 01:12.32 | rwhitby-away | (they don't have the new motion in stock) |
| 01:13.37 | jacques | one site I saw said that new motion was discontinued and unavailable |
| 01:14.26 | jacques | rwhitby-away, I don't suppose you can find a vantec nexstar ? |
| 01:14.37 | rwhitby-away | doubt it |
| 01:15.08 | rwhitby-away | why? |
| 01:15.08 | jacques | that's what I have. comes with two-headed usb cable and powers right off the slug |
| 01:19.56 | Christopher | rwhitby-away: can't find anything about chipset, it says it has linux support thoug |
| 01:26.03 | rwhitby-away | I guess if unslung doesn't support the chipset, then I'll just add a patch for it |
| 01:31.42 | rwhitby-away | I wonder about the 160Gb limit they state in the PDF - I only have a 20 or 30 Gb drive, so it doesn't matter, but I wonder if it is a clue to the chipset |
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| 01:33.36 | jacques | rwhitby-away, that's just the largest 2.5" drive currently available |
| 01:33.41 | rwhitby-away | ooh - look at the second item on this page: http://hypernetdist.com.au/featured.asp |
| 01:33.48 | rwhitby-away | MediaGate MG-25 Portable DIVX |
| 01:34.23 | Christopher | cool |
| 01:34.42 | jacques | neat |
| 01:34.43 | rwhitby-away | wonder if it can be both a storage device for the slug, and a media player |
| 01:34.55 | jacques | heck it might already run linux itself :-) |
| 01:34.56 | glc | jacques: 160GB is the largest supported using LBA. |
| 01:38.02 | rwhitby-away | http://blade.lansmash.com/index.php?p=123 |
| 01:39.00 | rwhitby-away | Bottom line is you can’t have the MG25 plugged into a PC and watch it at the same time |
| 01:40.06 | rwhitby-away | torrent stuff down to it, then switch to playback ... |
| 01:40.17 | rwhitby-away | (non-copyrighted material of course) |
| 01:41.46 | jacques | that's still a majorly cool device |
| 01:41.56 | rwhitby-away | hmm - needs to be fat32 or ntfs for playback |
| 01:42.13 | jacques | ah yeah |
| 01:50.18 | rwhitby-away | maybe I can loopback onto a fat32 partition ... |
| 01:50.53 | rwhitby-away | or if it reads from sda1, then I can parition sda2 for unslung |
| 01:53.36 | rwhitby-away | this looks like the manufacturer |
| 01:53.37 | rwhitby-away | http://www.airlinktek.com/english/prod_mg25.htm |
| 01:54.11 | rwhitby-away | firmware updates on the support page :-) |
| 01:54.44 | Christopher | :-) |
| 01:55.23 | rwhitby-away | this is looking cool enough to buy, and put next to the toppies on prodslug ... |
| 01:55.36 | rwhitby-away | as well as the enclosure for my other drive on devslug ... |
| 01:59.17 | rwhitby-away | cheap too http://www.microtronics.ca/comersus/store/comersus_dynamicIndex.asp has it for USD$150, and my local guy has it for AUD$160 |
| 01:59.27 | Christopher | rwhitby-away: is there a way to strip all binaries in a directory? |
| 02:06.07 | rwhitby-away | dunno - a for loop? |
| 02:06.16 | Christopher | ok, i'll mess with it |
| 02:06.24 | rwhitby-away | ok, I'm off to buy either an exclosure or a divx player :-) |
| 02:06.26 | Christopher | there's 20 binaries or so with cups |
| 02:06.29 | Christopher | have fun |
| 02:07.41 | jacques | I usually do strip * |
| 02:07.45 | jacques | :-) |
| 02:08.05 | jacques | strip doesn't mess with things it doesn't recognize |
| 02:12.57 | Christopher | ok |
| 02:12.59 | Christopher | thanks |
| 02:44.13 | Tiersten | glc: 160GB isn't the limit for LBA. It's 128GB. |
| 02:48.34 | glc | 134.2 actually, 120 GB is a bit too small, and 160 a bit too big. So the 160 GB drive is the smallest drive that exceeds the LBA capacity. |
| 02:49.00 | Tiersten | It's 128GB. It's only 130ish when you use the 1000 = 1K notation |
| 02:49.09 | Tiersten | 2^28 * 512 = 128GB |
| 02:50.14 | glc | Drive manufacturers use Decimal GB not 1024 * 1024 so they can make the drives sound bigger. |
| 02:50.29 | Tiersten | I know |
| 02:51.07 | Tiersten | With that definition of 1GB then it's 137.4GB |
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| 02:54.34 | glc | 128 GB = 137438953472 |
| 02:55.12 | glc | I forgot a 1024 in my multiplication. |
| 02:56.31 | glc | I have a Tivo I upgraded to 120G. I couldn't see spending the extra money for only an extra17 G. |
| 02:56.49 | Tiersten | I've got a series 1 unit with a 250GB drive in it |
| 02:57.03 | glc | Mine is a Directivo. |
| 02:57.04 | Tiersten | Works great with the LBA48 patches |
| 02:57.05 | Tiersten | ah |
| 02:57.26 | glc | I have been thinking about that, with tivonet. |
| 02:57.51 | Tiersten | I've got a cachecard as well since it's painfully slow otherwise |
| 02:57.59 | pfibiger | hey guys..i've got an nslu2 w/ an unslung 160gb maxtor onetouch. its been working perfectly for months, i've got like 60gb of data on it. I just got an identical 2nd drive i'm trying to add (so it can mirror/backup from one to the other). do i need to run unsling again so it 'unslings' the 2nd drive/ |
| 02:59.02 | glc | No. |
| 02:59.19 | pfibiger | so it should just work, if i turn on the backup functionality of the nslu2? |
| 02:59.36 | Tiersten | Don't swap the drives over though. Keep it in the same port |
| 02:59.43 | glc | I have been playing with raid 1 with 2 40G drives. That requires some diversion scripts. |
| 03:00.16 | jacques | more tivo-ites cool! |
| 03:01.03 | glc | Tiersten: Got the kids ( 21 - 24 ) a tivo so I could keep the anime of th one in the livingroom. |
| 03:01.45 | Tiersten | heh |
| 03:01.58 | jacques | i have a tivonet and 120GB drive |
| 03:02.13 | Tiersten | tivonet? what? the NE2K one?? |
| 03:02.26 | jacques | sorry turbonet |
| 03:02.34 | jacques | whatever was right before the cachecard |
| 03:02.40 | Tiersten | turbonet |
| 03:02.55 | Tiersten | tivonet was the original thing and it required a ISA NE2000 card to work |
| 03:03.14 | jacques | wow 2.6.11-rc1 added DMA mmap support for ARm |
| 03:27.25 | [g2] | Tiersten got a minute ? |
| 03:28.20 | Tiersten | yeah |
| 03:28.52 | [g2] | are you familiar with how the slug boots ? |
| 03:29.06 | Tiersten | which part? |
| 03:29.08 | [g2] | before Redboot gets copied |
| 03:29.19 | Tiersten | copied? |
| 03:29.49 | [g2] | ok before RedBoot gets remapped |
| 03:30.29 | Tiersten | I've had a quick look at it. What's up? |
| 03:31.01 | [g2] | bop over to openjtag |
| 03:40.25 | pfibiger | so, it looks disk->disk backup w/ the nslu2 doesn't work due to the backup util barfing due to symlinks in installed packages..and mt-daapd requires libgdbm, libid3tag..which all install w/ tons of symlinks. |
| 03:40.48 | Tiersten | Hard link it? |
| 03:41.24 | pfibiger | yeah, i didn't want to bust anything, but i guess i can always reinstall the ipkgs |
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| 04:44.18 | rwhitby-away | jacques: wasn't able to get the media player - out of stock :-( |
| 04:44.28 | jacques | bah :-( |
| 04:45.42 | rwhitby-away | new stock in next week apparently. Some time to research before then ... |
| 04:45.53 | rwhitby-away | got the fujitsu enclosure instead ... |
| 04:46.55 | jacques | cool. hook it up :-) |
| 05:06.43 | [g2] | nite all |
| 05:08.54 | rwhitby-away | hmm - not looking good :-( |
| 05:09.22 | rwhitby-away | Cypress Semiconductor chipset .... |
| 05:10.03 | rwhitby-away | T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 |
| 05:10.03 | rwhitby-away | D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 |
| 05:10.03 | rwhitby-away | P: Vendor=04b4 ProdID=6830 Rev= 0.01 |
| 05:10.03 | rwhitby-away | S: Manufacturer=Cypress Semiconductor |
| 05:10.04 | rwhitby-away | S: Product=USB2.0 Storage Device |
| 05:10.04 | rwhitby-away | S: SerialNumber=DEF107679C83 |
| 05:10.05 | rwhitby-away | C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA |
| 05:10.07 | rwhitby-away | I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=(none) |
| 05:10.09 | rwhitby-away | E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms |
| 05:10.11 | rwhitby-away | E: Ad=88(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms |
| 05:10.20 | rwhitby-away | don't like that "Driver=(none)" :-( |
| 05:10.28 | jacques | dammit :-( |
| 05:12.32 | rwhitby-away | wonder if the drive has to be set to master/slave/cableselect ... |
| 05:16.35 | rwhitby-away | chipset is CY7C68300A-56PVC |
| 05:23.37 | rwhitby-away | EZ-USB AT2 |
| 05:38.53 | rwhitby-away | ok, how do I search kernel patches to find a patch for it? |
| 05:44.15 | Christopher | 2197 root 1660 S ./cupsd |
| 05:44.21 | Christopher | :-) |
| 05:48.34 | jacques | :-D |
| 05:48.57 | rwhitby-away | lxr.linux.no is down - anyone know of a mirror? |
| 05:56.44 | jacques | been googling, haven't really found a satisfactory answer to the Cypress thing |
| 05:57.00 | jacques | lots of conflicting info |
| 05:57.09 | rwhitby-away | neither have I - I've found no real information at all |
| 05:57.23 | rwhitby-away | recompiling unslung kernel with USB_MASS_STORAGE_DEBUG turned on ... |
| 05:57.57 | jacques | some say it works some say it doesn't some say it works some of the time some say there are different Cypress chipsets and some work and some dont but dont say which ones |
| 05:58.17 | rwhitby-away | what terms are you googling? |
| 06:00.12 | jacques | i already closed the window but I think it was Cypress usb_storage (and then I added patch) |
| 06:06.28 | rwhitby-away | getting the old usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout on boot |
| 06:09.44 | rwhitby-away | hmm - didn't even ask about the return policy at the place I bought it from ... |
| 06:32.03 | rwhitby-away | well, this has put a bit of a halt on native package compilation while I work out this enclosure problem ... |
| 06:39.32 | rwhitby-away | usb storage debug indicates problems at transport layer |
| 06:41.32 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: GetMaxLUN command result is -32, data is 128 |
| 06:41.32 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: clearing endpoint halt for pipe 0x80000280 |
| 06:42.04 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: Command INQUIRY (6 bytes) |
| 06:42.04 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: 12 00 00 00 ff 00 56 64 c0 2f 56 64 |
| 06:42.04 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: Bulk command S 0x43425355 T 0x1 Trg 0 LUN 0 L -16777216 F 128 CL 6 |
| 06:42.04 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: Bulk command transfer result=0 |
| 06:42.04 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:14 klogd: usb-storage: usb_stor_transfer_partial(): xfer 255 bytes |
| 06:42.06 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:20 klogd: usb-storage: command_abort() called |
| 06:42.08 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:20 klogd: usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_msg() returned -104 xferred 0/255 |
| 06:42.10 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:20 klogd: usb-storage: usb_stor_transfer_partial(): transfer aborted |
| 06:42.12 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:20 klogd: usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result 0x3 |
| 06:42.14 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:20 klogd: usb-storage: -- transport indicates command was aborted |
| 06:42.16 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:20 klogd: usb-storage: Bulk reset requested |
| 06:42.18 | rwhitby-away | <44>Jan 14 06:35:25 klogd: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout |
| 06:42.20 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:25 klogd: usb-storage: Bulk soft reset failed -110 |
| 06:42.22 | rwhitby-away | <47>Jan 14 06:35:25 klogd: usb-storage: scsi command aborted |
| 06:42.24 | rwhitby-away | any USB experts in the house? |
| 06:43.11 | rwhitby-away | and the drive just continuously clicks once every 3/4 of a second or so |
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| 06:46.39 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: do you know anything about debugging a USB transport failure on a Cypress EZ-USB AT2 enclosure that i just bought? |
| 06:47.06 | rwhitby-away | (kernel usb-storage debug messages are in the logs just before you joined) |
| 06:47.53 | [g2] | you can enable logging of USB events in the kernel |
| 06:48.29 | [g2] | dunno about transport failure |
| 06:48.44 | rwhitby-away | it's being detected and appears in /proc/bus/usb/devices, but yeah, it's a transport failure |
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| 07:25.52 | giel_slug | ok |
| 07:26.00 | giel_slug | slug's still up |
| 07:26.13 | giel_slug | irssi is at least somewhat stable :) |
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| 09:06.23 | perlguru-work | hi |
| 09:06.45 | rwhitby-away | morning Europe part 2 :-) |
| 09:07.03 | perlguru-work | bit late today ;) |
| 09:07.36 | rwhitby-away | anyone in Europe know anything about the Cypress EZ-USB AT2 chipset, and why my new enclosure using this chipset won't work with the slug ? |
| 09:08.37 | perlguru-work | does it work on normal linux? |
| 09:09.08 | perlguru-work | it could be the kernel usb drivers does not support this (yet) |
| 09:09.49 | rwhitby-away | dunno - guess I'll have to burn a knoppix disk and try it. |
| 09:09.58 | rwhitby-away | it works on XP with no drivers |
| 09:10.21 | rwhitby-away | brochure says it's supported by 2.4.18 or later |
| 09:11.01 | perlguru-work | slug is 2.4.22-xfs |
| 09:11.14 | rwhitby-away | yeah, so it should work, but it doesn't |
| 09:11.31 | perlguru-work | tried with openslug? |
| 09:12.13 | perlguru-work | or maybe a kernel option is missing? |
| 09:12.19 | perlguru-work | like, not enabled |
| 09:13.44 | perlguru-work | So, is the printer stuff working? Do we have CUPS? |
| 09:16.59 | giel | 'suppose so |
| 09:17.02 | giel | 09:50 < CIA-7> edmondsc * unslung/ (make/cups.mk sources/cups/control): initial checkin of cups, so I don't mess anything up now that it compiles |
| 09:18.58 | giel | and we have glib too, as soon as i check in |
| 09:20.43 | rwhitby-away | perlguru-work: checked kernel options. building openslug now ... |
| 09:21.40 | perlguru-work | k |
| 09:22.29 | Christopher | CUPS seems to be operational |
| 09:22.34 | Christopher | I didn't mess with it too much |
| 09:22.40 | Christopher | the packaging needs a little work |
| 09:22.56 | giel | hm, i think i'll make a GLIB_LOCALES in glib.mk and set that initially to "en" only |
| 09:23.15 | Christopher | tell bob_tm if you see him that I got it working and that he should be able to test it with his print stuff, he just needs to get it from the CVS and compile |
| 09:23.25 | Christopher | night all |
| 09:23.29 | giel | night |
| 09:23.36 | giel | ~ugt |
| 09:23.37 | jbot | ugt is, like, Universal Greeting Time. It states that it is always morning when person comes in, and it is always late when person leaves. Local time of any member of channel is irrelevant. |
| 09:25.44 | rwhitby-away | giel: good plan |
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| 09:40.33 | giel | can someone check for me where swapoff resides? |
| 09:40.49 | giel | (doing stuff without slug access... again :)) |
| 09:44.31 | giel | anyway, updated the memstickasmaindrive with the busybox fdisk alternative and swapoff |
| 09:48.48 | rwhitby-away | it's at /sbin/swapoff |
| 09:49.45 | giel | guessed it right :) |
| 09:50.00 | giel | ok, more coffee and then back to my kernel hacking |
| 10:00.15 | inge_arnesen | Oh - saw this to late. If you read your logs Christopher: Thank you very much! |
| 10:00.45 | inge_arnesen | Now there is a AddUsbWebcam HowTo on the wiki |
| 10:02.05 | perlguru-work | ~praise Christopher-zzz |
| 10:02.08 | jbot | All hail Christopher-zzz! |
| 10:02.13 | perlguru-work | ~praise inge_arnesen |
| 10:02.15 | jbot | All hail inge_arnesen! |
| 10:02.59 | rwhitby-away | ~lart Cypress EZ-USB AT2 |
| 10:03.06 | inge_arnesen | Anyone got CD/DVD working yet? |
| 10:03.15 | inge_arnesen | :-D |
| 10:03.41 | perlguru-work | rwhitby-away: no luck? |
| 10:04.08 | rwhitby-away | just about to try Knoppix - will have to reboot laptop to try it out |
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| 10:04.41 | rwhitby-away | but openslug is still building on laptop, so I don't want to stop that in the middle of glibc .... |
| 10:04.52 | perlguru-work | @#!%@## stupid outlook :( |
| 10:05.13 | inge_arnesen | Ok - I take the silence ti mean that noone has CD/DVD support running on unslung. |
| 10:05.18 | inge_arnesen | s/ti/to/ |
| 10:05.34 | perlguru-work | sorry, i have no usb cd/dvd |
| 10:05.56 | inge_arnesen | No problemo - it is tough to get the driver to work without devfs. |
| 10:06.02 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen: have you considered building an unslung-standard with DEVFS support and seeing if it works? |
| 10:06.29 | perlguru-work | that is an intresting suggestion |
| 10:06.32 | inge_arnesen | It is |
| 10:06.42 | perlguru-work | or better: udev/hotplug! |
| 10:07.05 | inge_arnesen | Please decide. I'm not competent to judge |
| 10:07.08 | rwhitby-away | um, it's still unslung, not openslug ... |
| 10:07.20 | perlguru-work | so? |
| 10:07.23 | rwhitby-away | we can't change /dev/sda1, etc. |
| 10:07.26 | inge_arnesen | I would prefer devfs because its been in stable Linux since 2.4.0 |
| 10:07.40 | inge_arnesen | That is one hell of a beta |
| 10:07.50 | rwhitby-away | all the devices are hard-coded in the linksys apps like USB_Detect and rc.bootbin |
| 10:07.51 | perlguru-work | ok, very well. NOTE to Opensluggers: add udev/hotplug! |
| 10:07.58 | perlguru-work | :) |
| 10:08.28 | inge_arnesen | rwhitby-away: We can make sure that the drives and ether get the same names. |
| 10:08.44 | inge_arnesen | (forget the Ether - not in /dev) |
| 10:08.47 | perlguru-work | no problem using udev rules |
| 10:09.02 | inge_arnesen | I need convincing perlguru - don't know enough. |
| 10:09.02 | rwhitby-away | as long as everything in /dev stays the same, then I'm happy |
| 10:09.07 | inge_arnesen | Agree |
| 10:09.21 | perlguru-work | it is. I am using it on my Gentoo-box. |
| 10:09.25 | rwhitby-away | perlguru-work: is udev in 2.4.22 ? |
| 10:09.34 | perlguru-work | no. 2.6.9 |
| 10:09.43 | inge_arnesen | How do we "guess" that rc.bootbin would react to /dev/sdb being missing rather than the device pointed to by that device node is missing? |
| 10:09.46 | rwhitby-away | well, how can you suggest it be used for Unslung then? |
| 10:09.53 | inge_arnesen | No way 2.6 |
| 10:10.25 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen: we don't guess - we experiment :-) |
| 10:10.41 | inge_arnesen | True, but initial guesswork directs experiments. |
| 10:11.04 | rwhitby-away | perlguru-work: unslung has to stay at 2.4.22 (or whatever kernel version Linksys has in their latest firmware release). |
| 10:11.05 | inge_arnesen | I don't think it would be a problem. The important thing is that present devices get correct names |
| 10:11.15 | rwhitby-away | which reminds me, I should have a look at R29 ... |
| 10:11.26 | rwhitby-away | I can do that while waiting for openslug to build ... |
| 10:11.59 | rwhitby-away | oooh - i can try the enclosure on my Asus WL-500g :-) |
| 10:12.32 | inge_arnesen | Do we have a description of the bootstrapping on the slug - Lilo, grub etc? |
| 10:12.49 | rwhitby-away | redboot boot sequence in info |
| 10:12.55 | inge_arnesen | thnx |
| 10:13.09 | rwhitby-away | my connection might drop now if something goes wrong when I plug this disk into the internet router ... |
| 10:17.41 | rwhitby-away | hmm - it is found in /proc/bus/usb/devices, just like on the slug, but also not claimed by the mass storage driver |
| 10:18.54 | giel | the mass storage driver has always been and still is flakey |
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| 10:23.56 | rwhitby-away | ok, time to reboot and try it under Knoppix |
| 10:36.16 | inge_arnesen | Questions: (a) Must new kernel images be flashed from Redboot or can the kernel block be written to from Linux? (b) Do I need a serial port to flash from RedBoot or is telnet enough? |
| 10:38.06 | rwhitby-away | you can flash a new image through the web interface using maintenance mode |
| 10:38.19 | rwhitby-away | (or do you just want to write the kernel only? |
| 10:39.21 | rwhitby-away | Damn enclosure worked under Knoppix 2.4.24-xfs :-( It got a bulk/timeout message there too, but seemed to recover from it and mount the disk fine. |
| 10:40.29 | inge_arnesen | kernel only |
| 10:40.45 | inge_arnesen | Invested too much in the current root fs |
| 10:42.08 | inge_arnesen | So the web interface flash writes the two last blocks? |
| 10:42.59 | inge_arnesen | Oh... of course... I must do it all - the /dev directory must go. Silly me. |
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| 10:48.27 | inge_arnesen | Argh, violate my little sister! This is not trivial at all - must have a host setup to test this prior to flashing or I'll be needing to use RedBoot to recover for sure. |
| 10:49.03 | inge_arnesen | Sunday project :-( |
| 10:49.13 | rwhitby-away | "host setup" ? |
| 10:49.34 | inge_arnesen | Yes - set up a PC with similar config. You probably did that? |
| 10:49.45 | rwhitby-away | nope |
| 10:49.54 | inge_arnesen | So I can see that devfs is correctly mounted in time and so on |
| 10:49.59 | rwhitby-away | I just boot with serial and see what happens :-) |
| 10:50.22 | inge_arnesen | Ok - I will go buy a new soldering iron if I can't get Peter to return my Weller. |
| 10:50.51 | rwhitby-away | hardest thing about adding serial is getting the existing solder out of the holes. after that is it a breeze |
| 10:51.09 | inge_arnesen | Do we have a source for RAM chips? |
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| 10:52.00 | rwhitby-away | ka6sox and dyoung enterprises |
| 10:52.12 | inge_arnesen | :-) |
| 10:53.51 | rwhitby-away | Hmm - so it looks like I've just done $40 on an enclosure that doesn't work on the slug, but does work on a 2.4.24-xfs knoppix on a dell laptop |
| 10:54.54 | inge_arnesen | rwhitby-away: What time zone are you in - EST? |
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| 10:55.09 | LexDelani | morning all |
| 10:55.22 | inge_arnesen | Mornin' |
| 10:55.48 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen: GMT+9:30+1 |
| 10:56.00 | rwhitby-away | ACDT |
| 10:56.14 | inge_arnesen | Ah, I thought it would be a bit early. What 'bout ka6ox? |
| 10:56.24 | rwhitby-away | PST |
| 10:56.34 | inge_arnesen | Austalia? South? |
| 10:56.46 | rwhitby-away | me, yes. |
| 10:56.57 | inge_arnesen | Ok - then I will ask ka6ox later. |
| 10:57.16 | inge_arnesen | Adelaide? |
| 11:01.33 | inge_arnesen | rwhitby-away: Thought about placing packages in their own directories. If a package has a file in the rootfs what needs to be access when other FS'es may not be mounted, the whole package must be in rootfs. |
| 11:01.47 | inge_arnesen | That may suck :-) |
| 11:02.59 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen-awa: that's why I suggest that /opt is on a single partition |
| 11:04.05 | rwhitby-away | so everything is under /opt. and it's either mounted or it's not. Having the /unslung on the same partition then allows you to only divert when that disk is mounted |
| 11:05.03 | inge_arnesen-awa | It preserves the best thing about unslung |
| 11:05.36 | rwhitby-away | what's that? |
| 11:05.52 | inge_arnesen-awa | Being able to boot without disk, reconnect it and you will "always" be ok. |
| 11:06.19 | inge_arnesen-awa | Mixing experimentation with some security |
| 11:07.08 | rwhitby-away | I wouldn't do kernel mods without serial, personally. |
| 11:07.29 | inge_arnesen-awa | I agree. |
| 11:07.47 | inge_arnesen-awa | I promise I won't flash devfs before I have serial |
| 11:08.08 | rwhitby-away | I don't mind if you do - you've confirmed redboot access :-) |
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| 11:20.56 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen-awa: I just realised that since we are copying /dev from /dev.state on boot anyway, then it should be very easy to populate a devfs /dev directory. |
| 11:21.16 | inge_arnesen-awa | We just drop copying |
| 11:21.25 | inge_arnesen-awa | ? |
| 11:21.35 | rwhitby-away | or we only copy the extras that aren't done automatically? |
| 11:21.55 | inge_arnesen-awa | and do mount -t devfs devfs /dev |
| 11:22.27 | inge_arnesen-awa | I will check how that is to be done, since devfs handles /dev |
| 11:23.25 | rwhitby-away | From the DEVFS FAQ: Manually creating device nodes: The mknod() method allows you to create an ordinary named pipe in the devfs, or you can create a character or block special inode if one does not already exist. You may wish to create a character or block special inode so that you can set permissions and ownership. Later, if a device driver registers an entry with the same name, the permissions, |
| 11:23.25 | rwhitby-away | ownership and times are retained. This is how you can set the protections on a device even before the driver is loaded. Once you create an inode it appears in the directory listing. |
| 11:23.27 | inge_arnesen-awa | Hmmm... I would probably mknod them after mounting devfs. |
| 11:23.47 | rwhitby-away | or just cp -rp from /dev.state, which will do the same thing |
| 11:24.12 | inge_arnesen-awa | I guess I should remove devfs-aware devices from /dev.state? |
| 11:24.41 | inge_arnesen-awa | Don't have to, htough |
| 11:24.48 | rwhitby-away | my reading of the FAQ entry says that you don't have to |
| 11:25.02 | inge_arnesen-awa | Agreed - it is aesthetics |
| 11:25.24 | rwhitby-away | I'm compiling a devfs kernel now, and will try it out on devslug (since my enclosure hopes have been dashed) |
| 11:25.50 | inge_arnesen-awa | Cool - I compiled one too, but have no devslug |
| 11:26.47 | inge_arnesen-awa | You'll add the mount statement too? |
| 11:27.25 | rwhitby-away | will do that by hand first time around - jffs2 :-) |
| 11:27.40 | inge_arnesen-awa | True - nice! |
| 11:27.52 | rwhitby-away | (unless it fails to boot to a command line due to devfs for some reason) |
| 11:28.46 | inge_arnesen-awa | Fingers crossed. |
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| 11:53.56 | giel | i had a weird problem with screen and /dev yesterday |
| 11:54.01 | giel | i couldn't run it as a normal user |
| 11:54.07 | giel | 'No PTYs' |
| 11:54.25 | giel | and then i changed the ownere of a tty to the user under whom i wanted to run screen |
| 11:54.28 | giel | and it worked |
| 11:54.41 | giel | but somehow that's supposed to be done automatically |
| 12:02.00 | rwhitby-away | Hmm - telnetd is completely removed from R29 ... |
| 12:02.29 | giel | R29 being new official linksys firmware or what? |
| 12:02.33 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 12:02.36 | giel | ah |
| 12:02.55 | giel | and what about the secret telnet user? |
| 12:03.21 | rwhitby-away | well, /etc/passwd is identical |
| 12:03.35 | giel | is there an official changelog? |
| 12:04.32 | rwhitby-away | you read the mailing list? |
| 12:05.21 | rwhitby-away | sent 15 hours ago |
| 12:07.32 | rwhitby-away | The fix mentioned in the ChangeLog is a kernel change only. There are no ramdisk changes of any substance (apart from a typo fix and a version change) - that is assuming that all the binary differences are simply due to a recompile. |
| 12:07.55 | giel | except for the disappearing of telnetd |
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| 12:09.03 | rwhitby-away | right, and the appearance of /usr/sbin/onetouch_detect |
| 12:10.15 | sebster82 | hi |
| 12:10.49 | rwhitby-away | g'day |
| 12:11.56 | inge_arnesen | I contacted (through their list) the busybox-guys about the Linksys mod to Busybox, but have no reply so far. |
| 12:12.24 | inge_arnesen | My guess is that the mod not being published is an oversight by Linksys. |
| 12:14.51 | inge_arnesen | (possibly the mod itself is an oversight) |
| 12:18.51 | rwhitby-away | oh, and the missing telnet.cgi and telnet.htm |
| 12:19.35 | rwhitby-away | which means that the next version of Unslung may have to have dropbear in the standard firmware ... |
| 12:20.56 | inge_arnesen | Maybe add telnetd instead? Lower threshold for use. |
| 12:20.57 | inge_arnesen | (though I would much prefer dropbear myself) |
| 12:21.04 | rwhitby-away | I've copied the telnet stuff over from R25 to R29 |
| 12:21.38 | inge_arnesen | Hmm... |
| 12:21.51 | inge_arnesen | Is rc.bootbin the same? |
| 12:22.08 | rwhitby-away | got a binary diff program that can handle recompiles? |
| 12:22.26 | inge_arnesen | Ah, MD5 not the same then? |
| 12:22.37 | rwhitby-away | looks like all exes have been recompiled |
| 12:22.39 | rwhitby-away | at leas |
| 12:22.41 | rwhitby-away | least |
| 12:23.00 | inge_arnesen | ok |
| 12:23.42 | rwhitby-away | I'm going to boot from the R29 kernel with an Unslung rootfs to see what is new in the kernel boot log |
| 12:23.57 | rwhitby-away | back in a bit (have to reset prodslug) |
| 12:30.41 | inge_arnesen | rwhitby-away: Who made "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan 1 1970 /home/httpd/html/HDD -> ../../../share/" in the root image? |
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| 12:51.26 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen: Linksys |
| 12:51.43 | rwhitby-away | why do you ask? |
| 12:52.27 | inge_arnesen | I found that symlinks work in thttp even if disabled. I haven't made that link work yet, though. If so, it would not be nice. |
| 12:52.53 | giel | that's why the "l" is there in the umask, the l of linksys |
| 12:52.55 | giel | :P |
| 12:53.06 | inge_arnesen | :-) |
| 12:53.33 | giel | the "rw"s suggest rwhitby has something to do with it, too |
| 12:53.38 | rwhitby-away | Linux version 2.4.22-xfs (shearer@sure_linux) (gcc version 3.2.1) #382 Thu Nov 11 18:26:35 CST 2004 |
| 12:53.44 | rwhitby-away | that's from R29 |
| 12:54.04 | giel | they compiled it over 2 months ago? |
| 12:55.05 | inge_arnesen | The first link works, the second doesn't: |
| 12:55.21 | inge_arnesen | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Jan 13 18:49 /home/httpd/html/cam -> /share/hdd/data/source/w3cam-0.7.2 |
| 12:55.29 | inge_arnesen | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan 1 1970 /home/httpd/html/HDD -> ../../../share/ |
| 12:57.10 | rwhitby-away | giel: that's the usual timeframe for QA for a firmware release for a company like Linksys or Cisco |
| 12:58.40 | giel | ah |
| 12:59.54 | rwhitby-away | flashing R29 ... (forgot that I couldn't just try the kernel on it's own, cause it loads linuxrc from /dev/ram0 instead of /dev/slug) |
| 13:00.18 | rwhitby-away | (well, actually it doesn't load linuxrc from /dev/ram0, and that's the problem) |
| 13:02.07 | giel | rwhitby-away: but you can load the ramdisk in memory yourself via tftp, isn't it? |
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| 13:03.41 | rwhitby-away | giel: yeah, i probably could have - I was worried about the flash partition table in the last block of flash, but just realised that the linksys kernel won't read that anyway |
| 13:06.28 | tjyang | rod, I sent you my gcc334.tgz to email account you gave me. Have myself to be able to check in sf.net need sometime. but already subscribe to sf.net so I can get help from sf.net. |
| 13:07.12 | rwhitby-away | tjyang: got it - won't have time to look at it tonight |
| 13:08.40 | giel | hm, i guess i'm going to build a serial port on my slug next weekend |
| 13:08.55 | tjyang | no problem. just want to get it out of my door. The felling of owning something is not good. |
| 13:09.25 | inge_arnesen | tjyang: Can I test? |
| 13:10.07 | tjyang | send me your personal email on private chat. |
| 13:12.49 | rwhitby-away | tjyang: will build it overnight |
| 13:13.35 | perlguru | so, linksys has new firmware. Where is the changelog? |
| 13:13.48 | tjyang | inge,rod please read gcc334-native.mk and take out my personal stuff like rsync to my nslu2 unit etc. |
| 13:13.59 | tjyang | inge, it is out to your email account. |
| 13:14.37 | rwhitby-away | perlguru: on the mailing list |
| 13:14.43 | perlguru | ok |
| 13:15.14 | tjyang | rod, thanks for the code in recent Makefile for nslu2 native compilation. |
| 13:15.19 | rwhitby-away | don |
| 13:15.29 | rwhitby-away | don't get too excited about it ... |
| 13:18.56 | perlguru | ehm, where? |
| 13:19.01 | inge_arnesen | tj: ok |
| 13:19.24 | inge_arnesen | tj: thnx - will look at it this evening CET |
| 13:19.53 | rwhitby-away | [g2]'s posting of about 17 hours ago |
| 13:20.14 | rwhitby-away | ------ Cut from README -------------- |
| 13:20.14 | rwhitby-away | Firmware version 2.3 Release 29 |
| 13:20.14 | rwhitby-away | 1.) Fixed large file lockup issue caused by files larger than 1GB |
| 13:20.14 | rwhitby-away | being transfered across the network. |
| 13:20.14 | rwhitby-away | -------- End Cut/Paste from README |
| 13:20.40 | tjyang | inge, remember it is from ipkg learner, need your improvement. |
| 13:21.32 | perlguru | ah, i see. |
| 13:21.51 | perlguru | so, if i bitbake a new image, i'll have it? |
| 13:22.13 | tjyang | anyone porinter what I am doing wrong ? I got a hang session like this when I try to switch use "ext" to check out code. |
| 13:22.16 | tjyang | [tjyang@dual test]$ sh -x checkout.sh |
| 13:22.16 | tjyang | + cvs -d:ext:tjyang@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/nslu co unslung |
| 13:22.27 | giel | export CVS_RSH=ssh |
| 13:22.31 | rwhitby-away | perlguru: nope - how on earth would we be able to do that until they release source for the kernel change? |
| 13:23.21 | perlguru | o well. |
| 13:23.26 | rwhitby-away | tjyang: it seems that the only difference between gcc334-native.mk and crosstool-native.mk is the installation location. Is that correct? |
| 13:23.52 | rwhitby-away | i.e there is no difference in the actual cross-compilation of the toolchain |
| 13:24.10 | tjyang | correct, and I also delete the binaries duplicates to save space. |
| 13:25.14 | tjyang | giel, thanks a lot. I get further now ;) |
| 13:25.15 | rwhitby-away | ok, using this ipk and the new unslung packages Makefile, do the 47 natively-compilable package compile correctly for you with this toolchain which has been installed in a different location from whence it was targeted when built? |
| 13:26.01 | giel | tjyang: np |
| 13:26.54 | tjyang | rod, execuse me, I got lost in your reply. |
| 13:27.56 | rwhitby-away | have you used your gcc334 toolchain (installed under /opt/gcc334, but compiled with a PREFIX set to somewhere else) to compile any native packages using the Makefile from Unslung CVS (which can now be used for native compiles as well as cross compiles) |
| 13:28.25 | rwhitby-away | Currently about 47 of the 67 or so packages natively build directly from Unslung CVS. |
| 13:28.29 | tjyang | I tested it with "make zlib" |
| 13:28.34 | rwhitby-away | (using crosstool-native.ipk) |
| 13:29.02 | tjyang | I tested the gcc334-native with "make zlib", it went fine. |
| 13:30.41 | rwhitby-away | inge_arnesen: the devfs unslung boots fine. which means that old-style /dev entries still work fine. |
| 13:31.03 | inge_arnesen | :-D |
| 13:31.13 | inge_arnesen | *happy, happy - joy, joy* |
| 13:31.35 | rwhitby-away | but we already knew that, cause that's the case with the -able kernel. |
| 13:31.43 | inge_arnesen | It means a lot to get devices up and running and now they will do so much easier. |
| 13:31.59 | inge_arnesen | Well, rc.bootbin and other hard cases could have protested. |
| 13:32.09 | tjyang | rod, you understand I am not trying to start something new right ? ( I mean stay away from crosstool-native.mk). I need to have multiple version gcc packages. |
| 13:32.24 | rwhitby-away | tjyang: understood |
| 13:33.03 | giel | does anyone have any experiences with running an MTA on the slug? |
| 13:33.04 | tjyang | rod, giel look here. |
| 13:33.06 | tjyang | [tjyang@dual test]$ cat checkout.sh |
| 13:33.07 | tjyang | export CVS_RSH=ssh |
| 13:33.07 | tjyang | cvs -d:ext:tjyang@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/nslu co unslung |
| 13:33.07 | tjyang | [tjyang@dual test]$ |
| 13:33.22 | tjyang | this checkout.sh works now ;) |
| 13:33.32 | rwhitby-away | I'm just trying to understand whether I should bother running a 12 hour compilation test on it, but since it is the same toolchain just installed in a different place, then I won't bother. |
| 13:33.35 | giel | actually, i've got CVS_RSH=ssh in my profile :) |
| 13:33.49 | tjyang | does that mean I can check in code now ? |
| 13:33.57 | giel | yes |
| 13:33.58 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 13:34.03 | giel | you know how?" |
| 13:34.25 | tjyang | acorrding to rod, cvs add and cvs commit. |
| 13:35.28 | rwhitby-away | ok, now to try openslug with the new enclosure .... |
| 13:35.29 | tjyang | if I didn't post my key to sf.net yesterday, will checkout.sh work ? |
| 13:35.53 | rwhitby-away | (prodslug's fourth reflash tonight ...) |
| 13:36.42 | rwhitby-away | yes, it will should just ask you for your sf.net password |
| 13:37.19 | tjyang | then why we need to advise ppl to post key to sf.net and waited for one day ? |
| 13:37.41 | rwhitby-away | who advises that? |
| 13:37.53 | tjyang | rod, you ;) |
| 13:38.11 | rwhitby-away | the ssh keys are for convenience, to save you typing your password for every cvs command |
| 13:38.38 | rwhitby-away | you can be masochistic and type your ssh password every time if you like ... |
| 13:39.18 | giel | rwhitby-away: do you happen to have an openslug image which initializes the network on boot? |
| 13:39.19 | tjyang | rod, good to know posting ssh key is optional. |
| 13:41.40 | rwhitby-away | giel: no - that's [g2]'s job :-) I'm also waiting for it ... |
| 13:42.47 | rwhitby-away | Hmm - OpenSlug doesn't have /bin/init or /sbin/init, so switchbox drops into the recovery shell .... |
| 13:43.16 | giel | rwhitby-away: heh, i could fix that kind of stuff, if i only had a serial port :P |
| 13:43.28 | tjyang | I really appreicate rod and giel to help me on using developer method to check out package source. I will update wiki page of what I learn. |
| 13:43.48 | giel | tjyang: np, and updating wiki pages is always good |
| 13:43.58 | giel | tjyang: you could refer to the sf.net cvs guide |
| 13:44.35 | tjyang | Yes, but IMHO, ppl need to see a short example. |
| 13:46.21 | tjyang | I have a CVS book and many url, I don't know aobut export CVS_RSH command to get my checkout.sh script to work !! |
| 13:49.25 | inge_arnesen | Time to meet the outside world: bye all |
| 13:53.32 | rwhitby-away | well, OpenSlug didn't see the enclosure either |
| 13:53.55 | rwhitby-away | in fact, OpenSlug didn't even have a /proc/bus/usb at all, which is a bit of a worry |
| 13:54.54 | rwhitby-away | (prodslug get's it's fifth flash for the night, back to Unslung 3.17+devfs) |
| 13:56.01 | tjyang | is their a html <pre> </pre> in wiki language, I tryied [= .... =], but the text in between still got formated. |
| 13:56.12 | giel | just use <pre> </pre> |
| 13:56.35 | giel | or, you can make a paragraph and indent every line with a space |
| 13:56.59 | giel | that's what is usually used for quotes or output or commands the reader should type |
| 13:57.09 | tjyang | giel, just try it, <pre></pre> doesn't work. |
| 13:57.56 | tjyang | I need to show shell script codes and want them to be unformatted. |
| 13:58.19 | giel | yeah |
| 13:58.28 | giel | make a paragraph and start every line with a space |
| 13:58.36 | tjyang | ok. |
| 13:58.45 | tjyang | this look less work. |
| 14:00.01 | tjyang | giel, it works, looks better. |
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| 14:02.27 | perlguru | bob_tm-away, tested cups? |
| 14:02.46 | bob_tm-away | Nope - is it available now? |
| 14:03.00 | bob_tm-away | Christopher made it yesterday I think |
| 14:03.38 | perlguru | U make/cups.mk |
| 14:04.21 | bob_tm-away | Did you get the two lines I just sent? |
| 14:04.31 | giel | yeah |
| 14:04.38 | bob_tm-away | ok - good. |
| 14:04.43 | giel | and that one too |
| 14:04.59 | bob_tm-away | I will look at it later. I'm in full winter gear and about to go to the University |
| 14:05.08 | giel | have phun |
| 14:05.13 | bob_tm-away | as if :-) |
| 14:05.25 | giel | well, you should |
| 14:05.33 | bob_tm-away | Meet some girls perhaps. |
| 14:05.44 | giel | hey, learning is fun |
| 14:07.41 | bob_tm-away | BTW: It's 3:07pm CET - not much learning going on on a Friday afternoon. |
| 14:07.51 | bob_tm-away | bye again |
| 14:08.51 | giel | true |
| 14:08.57 | giel | well, begone then! |
| 14:09.36 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2850 10openembedded/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Unslung 3.18: Bumped the version. |
| 14:09.41 | CIA-7 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2848 10openembedded/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Unslung 3.18: moved /opt/bin and /opt/sbin to end of path during rc file execution, and added uname to slingbox. |
| 14:12.40 | giel | btw, are there any major changes between the 3.17 beta on sf.net and 3.17? |
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| 14:21.40 | giel | rwhitby-away: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/NoRootFoundErrata you're not the only one who noticed :P |
| 14:25.52 | VoodooZ | Actually. I wrote that. |
| 14:26.04 | VoodooZ | Why? somebody got the same problem? |
| 14:26.41 | giel | VoodooZ: i know |
| 14:26.45 | giel | well, rwhitby-away noticed |
| 14:26.58 | giel | 14:42 < rwhitby-away> Hmm - OpenSlug doesn't have /bin/init or /sbin/init, so switchbox drops into the recovery shell .... |
| 14:27.42 | VoodooZ | good. I was starting to worry. |
| 14:27.59 | VoodooZ | I thought I was the only one as usual. :) |
| 14:27.59 | giel | i really should mod a serial port on mine |
| 14:28.32 | VoodooZ | definitely! It's so easy. (the solder points are clean and waiting for your solder!) |
| 14:28.46 | giel | oh, and i'm quite skillfull with the iron :) |
| 14:29.02 | giel | i think i'll do it next weekend |
| 14:29.51 | VoodooZ | you don't need to be. It's just 4 wires. Get a Molex and solder it on the other side. Make sure you have a real soldering gun. No wood-carving crap! (I used that for years as a teen!) |
| 14:30.00 | perlguru | # cat .unslung |
| 14:30.00 | perlguru | V2.3R25-uNSLUng-able-3.18-beta |
| 14:30.27 | giel | i need er... a 4 pin header, an mx232, 4 capacitors and a connector, right? |
| 14:31.02 | giel | soldering gun? that sounds nasty :) i'll just use the equipment i used to modify motherboards |
| 14:31.13 | VoodooZ | Actually, I was under the impression you needed a 3.3V Max chip and not the 5V (max232) version. Check the wiki to make sure. |
| 14:31.36 | giel | the max chip is a level convertor, that's the whole point, right? |
| 14:31.56 | tjyang | giel, please see following error message when I try to checkin a directory. |
| 14:32.03 | VoodooZ | sorry I meant soldering IRON. my dad use to have a soldering GUN. It was not for precision stuff that's for sure :) |
| 14:32.09 | tjyang | [tjyang@dual sources]$ pwd |
| 14:32.09 | tjyang | /home/tjyang/slug/unslung/sources |
| 14:32.09 | tjyang | [tjyang@dual sources]$ cvs add gcc334-native/ |
| 14:32.09 | tjyang | ? gcc334-native/control |
| 14:32.09 | tjyang | ? gcc334-native/crosstool |
| 14:32.09 | tjyang | ? gcc334-native/demo-nslu2.sh |
| 14:32.11 | tjyang | ? gcc334-native/postinst |
| 14:32.14 | tjyang | ? gcc334-native/prerm |
| 14:32.17 | tjyang | cvs [server aborted]: "add" requires write access to the repository |
| 14:32.20 | tjyang | [tjyang@dual sources]$ |
| 14:32.32 | giel | VoodooZ: i know, those guns are waaay to hot |
| 14:32.32 | tjyang | does this mean I need to talk to rod to have write permission ? |
| 14:32.50 | VoodooZ | yeah but you need one that runs at the same voltage than the board in question as it needs to produce +/-12V (RS232) using only 3.3V. |
| 14:33.16 | giel | tjyang: it might also be because you try to cvs add in a dir previously checked out anonymous |
| 14:33.24 | perlguru | sda1 got mounted without the ugly diversion :D |
| 14:33.36 | VoodooZ | Check the maxim page. I think it's MAX2322 or something like that. I got the way more expensive max3233 version which has built-in caps as I'm lazy! :) |
| 14:33.52 | perlguru | ~praise us |
| 14:33.55 | jbot | All hail us! |
| 14:33.58 | giel | VoodooZ: the max3232 works on 3-5 v |
| 14:34.28 | VoodooZ | ok. you originally typed max232 which is the old one. |
| 14:35.08 | tjyang | giel, you are right. I will start from scratch. |
| 14:35.13 | giel | oh... yeah... i meant max3232 |
| 14:35.25 | giel | but i might just get the 3233 too |
| 14:35.30 | giel | as lazy is my middle name :) |
| 14:35.38 | VoodooZ | let me know if you need help. :) |
| 14:35.46 | giel | doing what? |
| 14:36.09 | perlguru | hub.c: new USB device 00:01.1-2, assigned address 2 |
| 14:36.09 | perlguru | usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4f9/0x2) is not claimed by any active driver. |
| 14:36.13 | perlguru | cool |
| 14:36.19 | VoodooZ | I don't know. with the socket choice or what not. |
| 14:36.23 | giel | ah ok |
| 14:36.36 | VoodooZ | perlguru: Did you compile the printer support in your kernel? |
| 14:36.47 | giel | i'll look at my local radioshack lookalike to see if they have the correct stuff |
| 14:37.06 | VoodooZ | :) |
| 14:37.35 | perlguru | not yet. that will be the next step :) |
| 14:37.50 | perlguru | no info yet in /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 14:39.18 | giel | VoodooZ: hm... i've found a store which sells siemens datacables for $10 |
| 14:39.32 | perlguru | the defconfig in packages/linux/unslung-kernel-2.3r25/able, right? |
| 14:40.11 | VoodooZ | giel, you mean with the level-conv. built-in? For cell phones? |
| 14:40.12 | perlguru | CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m |
| 14:40.16 | giel | VoodooZ: yep |
| 14:40.18 | perlguru | already there? |
| 14:40.46 | giel | VoodooZ: altho i'd rather have the level converter inside the slug |
| 14:40.47 | VoodooZ | cool. I know rwhitby and the others were using that when they first started hacking the slug. Check the wiki for part # |
| 14:41.05 | giel | VoodooZ: yep |
| 14:41.16 | giel | i'll just cut up the cable and put it inside the slug |
| 14:41.47 | VoodooZ | FOr my robot, I soldered a nice keyed molex connector to the slug and soldered the DB9 and MAX2333 to a little PCB so I could bring it out. |
| 14:43.09 | VoodooZ | yep. I guess you still use the case so it's perfect. I don't. |
| 14:43.14 | giel | i want to make an extra hole in the case and have mount a db9 female |
| 14:43.20 | giel | -have |
| 14:43.47 | VoodooZ | perfect. |
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| 14:48.56 | perlguru | should we put some effort in devfsd? I have the site now in front of me :) |
| 14:49.28 | VoodooZ | devfsd? I thought it was dead? |
| 14:49.53 | perlguru | for 2.6, yes. still usefull for 2.4 |
| 14:50.12 | perlguru | i am talking unslung here |
| 14:51.02 | VoodooZ | I see. but wouldn't udev and hotplug be better? I thought they were back ported to 2.4? maybe not. |
| 14:51.07 | bob_tm | perlguru: Update? Why not devfs on unslung` |
| 14:51.28 | bob_tm | ...or... why devfsd? |
| 14:51.56 | perlguru | bob_tm, i am trying to get the printer to work without too much hacking |
| 14:52.04 | perlguru | and keep the solution nice |
| 14:52.12 | bob_tm | Ah... good. |
| 14:52.28 | perlguru | bob_tm, have you looked into it yet? |
| 14:52.32 | bob_tm | Did rwhitby succeed with the devfs boot? |
| 14:52.40 | perlguru | dunno |
| 14:52.41 | bob_tm | devfs kernel you mean? |
| 14:53.00 | bob_tm | unslung-standard-kernel w/devfs |
| 14:53.32 | perlguru | we have: CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y in defconfig |
| 14:53.45 | bob_tm | Yes - that is good |
| 14:54.07 | bob_tm | Then just add the mount it in linuxrc or something, I guess. |
| 14:54.10 | perlguru | do we need: CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set |
| 14:54.37 | bob_tm | I don't think so - I will look. |
| 14:54.40 | giel | bob_tm: rwhitby succeeded |
| 14:54.46 | perlguru | good |
| 14:54.57 | giel | bob_tm: the CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT will automount devfs to /dev on boot |
| 14:55.13 | perlguru | can we do that? |
| 14:55.22 | bob_tm | But it is perhaps the easiest |
| 14:55.37 | bob_tm | Yes, any reason why not? |
| 14:55.39 | giel | and it is ok, mounting devfs |
| 14:55.53 | giel | 14:30 < rwhitby-away> inge_arnesen: the devfs unslung boots fine. which means that old-style /dev entries still work fine. |
| 14:56.06 | bob_tm | Yes - good. I'm not at home now. |
| 14:56.12 | perlguru | i am ;) |
| 14:56.45 | perlguru | i'll enable devfs_mount and reflash, see what happens |
| 14:57.14 | bob_tm | Yes.... *shhhh: Ladies and gents, don't do this at home* |
| 14:57.52 | NAiL | Do it at work instead! |
| 15:00.53 | giel | perlguru: you don't have to reflash, you can just boot into redboot and load the kernel with tftp |
| 15:01.22 | perlguru | giel, tell me how ;) |
| 15:01.31 | giel | you're running linux on your workstation? |
| 15:01.44 | perlguru | yep |
| 15:01.47 | giel | which distro? |
| 15:01.53 | perlguru | i can get into redboot |
| 15:01.56 | perlguru | gentoo |
| 15:02.00 | giel | ok that's nice |
| 15:02.04 | perlguru | yes |
| 15:02.06 | giel | then it's easy |
| 15:02.10 | perlguru | yes |
| 15:02.11 | giel | emerge tftp-hpa |
| 15:02.15 | perlguru | emerge world! |
| 15:02.25 | perlguru | got it, already running |
| 15:02.37 | giel | ok |
| 15:02.47 | perlguru | used to flash that way |
| 15:02.50 | giel | well, move your zImage into your tftp root |
| 15:03.05 | bob_tm | nice! |
| 15:03.06 | giel | so, not the .img, but your zImage which also should be in the deploy/image |
| 15:03.18 | bob_tm | Did you compile up all the modules too? |
| 15:03.32 | perlguru | now it isn't (removed tmp) |
| 15:03.41 | perlguru | bob_tm, huh? |
| 15:03.46 | giel | oh ok, but suppose you have the zImage |
| 15:03.54 | perlguru | :) |
| 15:04.09 | bob_tm | Modules for all devices - like printer aso. |
| 15:04.29 | perlguru | may take a few minutes |
| 15:04.32 | giel | then in redboot you just load -r -v -h ip_of_your_workstation -b 0x01d00000 zImageFileName |
| 15:04.41 | giel | that loads the kernel from tftp into ram |
| 15:04.47 | giel | and then exec 0x01d00000 |
| 15:05.15 | giel | then you have your old flash root but you boot the new kernel |
| 15:05.30 | giel | and the flash remains the same, so when you reboot you have your old kernel back |
| 15:07.56 | perlguru | bitbake failed :( |
| 15:08.32 | bob_tm | what??? |
| 15:08.40 | bob_tm | I did it earlier... |
| 15:09.16 | giel | ah yes, here's the wikipage: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TestAnImageInRamUsingRedBoot |
| 15:09.35 | giel | mind you, you don't need the "lan ..." stuff, you can just provide -h xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx to load |
| 15:09.54 | giel | and read zImage where it says vmlinuz |
| 15:09.58 | giel | and skip the ramdisk part |
| 15:10.45 | perlguru | giel, tweak the page |
| 15:10.53 | giel | not now |
| 15:10.53 | giel | :) |
| 15:11.13 | perlguru | package autoconf-native: build failed |
| 15:11.22 | perlguru | grr |
| 15:13.06 | perlguru | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/UnslungRamDisk ;) |
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| 15:22.17 | giel | VoodooZ: gah, the MAX2323 sells for EUR 12.50 here, while the datacable sells for EUR 10 |
| 15:22.59 | perlguru | flood: |
| 15:23.01 | perlguru | ERROR: log data follows (/home/maurice/nslu2/unslung2/build/tmp/work/autoconf-native-2.59-r0/temp/log.do_compile.5616) |
| 15:23.01 | perlguru | | NOTE: make |
| 15:23.01 | perlguru | | make: execvp: cat: Input/output error |
| 15:23.01 | perlguru | | Making all in bin |
| 15:23.03 | perlguru | | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/maurice/nslu2/unslung2/build/tmp/work/autoconf-native-2.59-r0/autoconf-2.59/bin' |
| 15:23.06 | perlguru | | rm -f autom4te autom4te.tmp |
| 15:23.10 | perlguru | | make[1]: execvp: rm: Input/output error |
| 15:23.12 | perlguru | | make[1]: *** [autom4te] Error 127 |
| 15:23.14 | perlguru | | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/maurice/nslu2/unslung2/build/tmp/work/autoconf-native-2.59-r0/autoconf-2.59/bin' |
| 15:23.17 | perlguru | | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 15:23.19 | perlguru | | FATAL: oe_runmake failed |
| 15:23.21 | perlguru | . |
| 15:23.23 | perlguru | why? |
| 15:23.25 | giel | wow that doesn't look good |
| 15:23.40 | giel | why on earth would rm give an i/o error |
| 15:23.51 | tjyang | perlguru what is the output of "ls -l /dev/null" |
| 15:24.13 | perlguru | ls -l /dev/null |
| 15:24.13 | perlguru | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Jan 14 15:58 /dev/null |
| 15:24.25 | giel | perlguru: i would fsck your drive or something |
| 15:24.41 | tjyang | what about "ls -l /|grep tmp" |
| 15:24.57 | giel | tmp is 777 with sticky tag |
| 15:25.17 | giel | or at least it should be on a normal system, it isn't on the slug |
| 15:25.36 | tjyang | then I can't help. |
| 15:25.53 | perlguru | it is on my gentoo box |
| 15:26.06 | tjyang | compiling autoconf-native.mk on gentoo ? |
| 15:26.11 | perlguru | no |
| 15:26.18 | perlguru | bitbaking the unslung-image |
| 15:26.21 | bob_tm | Did you rebuild from scratch or just edited defconfig and removed stamps |
| 15:26.40 | perlguru | removed tmp |
| 15:26.48 | tjyang | I am out, sorry for the noises. |
| 15:26.48 | perlguru | need more? |
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| 15:41.40 | giel | VoodooZ: do i need a 1:1 cable or a nullmodem cable to connect to the serial port on the slug? |
| 15:42.44 | VoodooZ | straight through cable should work I think. |
| 15:43.52 | giel | VoodooZ: k |
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| 16:15.08 | jacques | ~test |
| 16:15.10 | jbot | Passed |
| 16:17.18 | VoodooZ | So did rwhitby's latest changes fix the openslug issue too? |
| 16:20.46 | jacques | I just got here - was off irc for a couple of hours so I missed that |
| 16:20.58 | jacques | long story involving glibc rebuild |
| 16:22.50 | jacques | looking at changesets I only see ones to unslung |
| 16:24.34 | VoodooZ | yeah. |
| 16:25.17 | VoodooZ | At least rwhitby noticed my problem so he's aware of the problem. he probably knows how to fix it too as he probably introduced the change. |
| 16:25.23 | jacques | I dunno what happened to openslug. |
| 16:25.51 | VoodooZ | I did an unpull and rebuilt and everything is fine so the culprit was introduced between jan. 8 and 13. approx. |
| 16:26.03 | jacques | really. :-< |
| 16:26.10 | jacques | that's good to know |
| 16:26.26 | VoodooZ | yeah, openslug just craps out in switchbox somewhere now. |
| 16:27.05 | jacques | rwhitby-away said current openslug have no /sbin/init - which I think it a problem - mine has it (old) |
| 16:27.35 | VoodooZ | really? |
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| 16:27.41 | VoodooZ | let me check mine... |
| 16:27.50 | az_707 | hi @ll |
| 16:28.04 | VoodooZ | hey |
| 16:28.05 | jacques | if your is working now it probably has it |
| 16:28.30 | VoodooZ | yep. I also have an init file. |
| 16:28.46 | VoodooZ | yeah. I guess I'll check the old image. |
| 16:29.11 | jacques | I wonder how many changesets were committed in that timeframe |
| 16:29.25 | az_707 | have a question, i just received my ext disk and had the nslu running from flash stick with 3.17 |
| 16:29.27 | VoodooZ | not that many. Mostly rwhitby's. |
| 16:29.55 | az_707 | what should i do now if i want to run the nslu from ext disk without flash? |
| 16:29.57 | VoodooZ | Unless it was a change from upstream of course. I don't mean to blame rwhitby. |
| 16:29.59 | az_707 | reflash? |
| 16:30.10 | az_707 | or just disconnect, reset |
| 16:30.34 | VoodooZ | that stuff happens often in a dev. context so... |
| 16:32.57 | VoodooZ | jacques: I just pulled again and I've got the list of applied csets so I should be able to trace the change soon. |
| 16:35.37 | jacques | VoodooZ, that would be immensely helpful |
| 16:35.54 | VoodooZ | Want me to post it in #flood? |
| 16:36.31 | jacques | ok go ahead |
| 16:36.37 | kergoth | the /sbin/init was indeed an upstream failure |
| 16:36.40 | VoodooZ | I've got weird issues with bk lately. I get those ,v files popping up in my folders for no reason. Any suggestions? |
| 16:36.44 | kergoth | typo in the postinst function name in sysvinit .bb |
| 16:37.08 | jacques | kergoth, ah cool so it's fexed now? |
| 16:37.13 | jacques | fixed |
| 16:38.56 | VoodooZ | cool! I knew it was kergoth's fault! ;-) |
| 16:38.58 | VoodooZ | how's the man anyways? Haven't seen you in a while. |
| 16:39.25 | kergoth | the man? i dunno, go ask him :) |
| 16:39.36 | kergoth | not bad, busy, likely leaving my job for something else |
| 16:39.42 | kergoth | jacques: pretty sure it is, i'm not hitting it.. confirming now |
| 16:39.43 | VoodooZ | kergoth: btw, why do I get files suffixed with ,v appearing? I know they are bk files but how to clean them up properly? |
| 16:39.59 | kergoth | they arent in SCCS? |
| 16:40.14 | VoodooZ | yeah, I need a new job too. I'm contract so no medical/benefits. |
| 16:40.22 | kergoth | ack, thats no good |
| 16:40.26 | VoodooZ | odd. they just suddenly appear. |
| 16:40.38 | kergoth | appear where? |
| 16:40.39 | VoodooZ | Unless it's caused the resolve process? |
| 16:41.01 | ka6sox-away | I"ve been contract for 15 years...paying my own "benefits" |
| 16:41.06 | VoodooZ | right on the same level as the same file: hotplug_20040920.bb and the ,v version. |
| 16:41.16 | kergoth | odd |
| 16:41.22 | kergoth | are you on the latest version of bk? |
| 16:41.26 | VoodooZ | ka6sox-away: yeah, but my salary is not that great. |
| 16:41.46 | VoodooZ | good question: I've had the same one forever. |
| 16:41.51 | kergoth | i'm completely unproductive at work. cant seem to actually motivate myself to accomplish anything |
| 16:42.22 | VoodooZ | Take 2 weeks off down and do nothing on the beach. you need a break. |
| 16:42.25 | kergoth | VoodooZ: that could be an issue. they can actually disable your ability to use bk and force you to upgrade. iirc the clause has a license about "attempting to stay up to date" or something |
| 16:42.29 | kergoth | doesnt work |
| 16:42.31 | kergoth | i've taken breaks. went to OLS, etc |
| 16:42.44 | kergoth | got on antidepressents to take care of that, but the problem remains |
| 16:43.05 | VoodooZ | well, that's not really a break. It's still computers. you don't want to burnout either. |
| 16:43.13 | kergoth | i think i'm just fucking bored. i need a complex system to analyze and understand, or design. something conceptual to work on. this drudge work, pounding out drivers, just doesnt cut it |
| 16:43.19 | VoodooZ | not sleeping and drinking tons of cafeinne will kill you. |
| 16:43.35 | VoodooZ | perhaps. |
| 16:43.52 | kergoth | i also went home, to minnesota, for a week or two |
| 16:43.57 | kergoth | helped for about a month |
| 16:43.58 | VoodooZ | is there a built-in bk upgrade system or I have to download and install the new version? |
| 16:44.04 | kergoth | you have to download and install the new version |
| 16:44.15 | VoodooZ | home? as in parents? ouch! I prefer work to that! :) |
| 16:44.18 | VoodooZ | crap. |
| 16:44.31 | kergoth | parents, my townhouse, my cat. it was nice. |
| 16:44.39 | kergoth | i find i get along well with my parents now that i'm half way across the country |
| 16:44.57 | VoodooZ | hehehe. yeah I'm only 1 hour away but it helps. |
| 16:45.38 | VoodooZ | how do you get the bk version info ? |
| 16:45.55 | kergoth | .. |
| 16:45.59 | kergoth | 'bk version' |
| 16:46.00 | kergoth | :P |
| 16:46.17 | VoodooZ | BitKeeper version is bk-3.2.3 20040818155841 for x86-glibc23-linux |
| 16:46.30 | VoodooZ | The web page says 3.2.0 is latest. ??? |
| 16:46.34 | kergoth | thats not all that old. i think thats current. |
| 16:46.39 | kergoth | ignore the web page, look in thie download dir |
| 16:47.20 | jacques | yes! Huygens has landed! |
| 16:47.32 | VoodooZ | no way! cool! |
| 16:47.38 | VoodooZ | I thought it would be later. |
| 16:47.49 | jacques | http://www.spaceflightnow.com/cassini/status.html |
| 16:48.05 | jacques | "We have a scientific success," ESA director general Jean-Jacques Dordain reports. "We are the first visitors of Titan." |
| 16:49.22 | VoodooZ | yep. I just saw slashdot's post. |
| 16:49.32 | jacques | ah shoulda known it would be on there |
| 16:49.47 | VoodooZ | I'm watching NASA TV... |
| 16:50.01 | VoodooZ | laggy though. slasdhotted! |
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| 16:50.39 | VoodooZ | kergoth: Is there another way of download bk or I have to go though their web form? |
| 16:51.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:51.51 | kergoth | you forgot the url, huh? |
| 16:51.55 | kergoth | hold up |
| 16:51.56 | VoodooZ | :( |
| 16:55.55 | VoodooZ | later. lunch time. |
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| 17:59.33 | VoodooZ | kergoth: Yep. The latest is in fact 3.2.3, which I have. I guess my problem is elsewhere. |
| 18:00.05 | LarsAC | is nslu built on oe ? |
| 18:00.23 | VoodooZ | openslug is and unslung too. |
| 18:01.34 | LarsAC | just playing with my Zaurus which uses the same stuff... |
| 18:07.10 | VoodooZ | i see. |
| 18:07.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:13.15 | VoodooZ | kergoth: Is the sysvinit fix pushed already? |
| 18:16.29 | kergoth | dont know, havent had time to check. real work |
| 18:16.36 | VoodooZ | np thanks. |
| 18:18.22 | az_707 | hmm HELP *g* |
| 18:19.17 | az_707 | i have a new seagate 300gb ext disk, did format it, but now after reboot the nslu doesnt find it if i connect it to port 1 |
| 18:19.54 | az_707 | disk 1 led is on, but if i type df there is nothing than the normal entries |
| 18:22.38 | az_707 | any ideas? |
| 18:23.10 | VoodooZ | sorry, I only use openslug. |
| 18:23.27 | az_707 | hmm :) |
| 18:23.54 | giel | az_707: you formatted it on the slug? |
| 18:23.58 | az_707 | yes |
| 18:24.14 | giel | and what does the webinterface have to say about it? |
| 18:24.30 | az_707 | after format, it said formatted... |
| 18:24.38 | az_707 | now not installed |
| 18:24.41 | giel | hm |
| 18:24.49 | giel | and what if you disconnect and reconnect the drive? |
| 18:25.18 | giel | food, brb |
| 18:25.32 | az_707 | if i disconnect it, the port 1 led will be still on, reconnecting doesn't do something |
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| 18:28.10 | giel | hm |
| 18:28.25 | giel | and ofcourse you've tried rebooting and stuff |
| 18:28.34 | az_707 | yes |
| 18:28.38 | az_707 | severall times |
| 18:29.31 | [cc]smart | to get header files ont nslu for compiling on nslu2/openslug natively, is there an ipkg to install or sth. ? |
| 18:31.11 | giel | look here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TroubleshootADriveNotFormattedCondition |
| 18:31.26 | giel | and here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TroubleshootADriveMissingCondition |
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| 18:52.27 | giel | i am officially a complete and utter moron |
| 18:52.30 | giel | and please, don't ask |
| 18:52.56 | perlguru | not asking why.... |
| 18:53.02 | Tiersten | You gonna add that to the wiki then? ;) |
| 18:53.35 | giel | it hasn't got anything to do with the slug, so, no :) |
| 18:53.50 | Tiersten | :) |
| 18:54.35 | giel | now i'm gonna call some friends to drink beer and forget about my stupidity |
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| 19:10.31 | [cc]smart | how much of that stuff will it take ? :) |
| 19:12.48 | giel | anyone a sed hero? |
| 19:14.16 | perlguru | man sed ;) |
| 19:14.36 | kergoth | heh, hero, no, but what's the question? |
| 19:14.54 | giel | i have this big file and there's somewhere |
| 19:15.03 | giel | ALL_LINGUAS="lot of stuff here" |
| 19:15.14 | giel | and i want to change the "lot of stuff here" with "something else" |
| 19:15.52 | giel | it's not that i can't make some regexps, it's just sed which confuses me all the time |
| 19:16.01 | giel | i guess i'm too lazy to rtfm :) |
| 19:16.05 | kergoth | sed -i -e '/^ALL_LINGUAS=/s/"[^"]\+"$/"something else"/;' filename |
| 19:16.18 | giel | cool |
| 19:16.19 | giel | thanks |
| 19:16.20 | kergoth | the /^ALL_LINGUAS=/ is the 'address' for sed |
| 19:16.22 | kergoth | np |
| 19:16.33 | perlguru | kergoth hero after all ;) |
| 19:16.49 | kergoth | heh, i just write a shitload of shell scripts |
| 19:17.00 | kergoth | i'm far, far, far too lazy to be doing things manually. pfft |
| 19:17.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:17.19 | giel | jup, works |
| 19:17.24 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:17.30 | giel | one step closer too the perfect glib.mk |
| 19:18.26 | kergoth | note that the use of sed -i requires a recent sed. |
| 19:18.29 | kergoth | it wont work on old machines |
| 19:18.41 | kergoth | is that already a required piece of software for unslung? |
| 19:19.07 | kergoth | if not, do something like cat filename | sed -e '/^ALL_LINGUAS=/s/"[^"]\+"$/"something else"/;' > filename.new && mv filename.new filename |
| 19:19.53 | giel | ah |
| 19:19.54 | giel | well |
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| 19:20.53 | perlguru | i think sed is busybox-sed |
| 19:21.25 | perlguru | or when crosscompiling, what you have on system |
| 19:22.00 | kergoth | right. its just a policy decision. do you require a recent sed that supports -i or not |
| 19:22.10 | kergoth | pretty sure OE depends on it nowadays |
| 19:22.39 | perlguru | slug-sed supports -i |
| 19:22.59 | perlguru | Source files will not be modified unless -i option is given. |
| 19:27.27 | giel | ok |
| 19:27.35 | giel | glib.mk now supports user-defined locales |
| 19:27.49 | giel | that is, you can change a variable in glib.mk to indicate which you want to install |
| 19:27.57 | giel | defaulting only to "en_GB" |
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| 19:28.24 | giel | hm, what happened to en_US |
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| 19:30.54 | az_707 | back |
| 19:34.14 | az_707 | anyone knows how i can make a db3 database with the nslu? |
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| 19:47.58 | grimreap | have these been any external cases that are known not to work correctly with the nslu2? |
| 19:48.49 | ka6sox-away | grimreap: rwhitby ran into one last night. |
| 19:49.06 | ka6sox-away | has a Cypress AT2 chipset in it. |
| 19:49.12 | grimreap | I think I might have bought two heh |
| 19:49.33 | Tiersten | AT2? |
| 19:49.49 | Tiersten | I've got a Cypress chipset IDE adapter and it works fine |
| 19:49.53 | Tiersten | Not sure which one it is however |
| 19:50.14 | grimreap | I dont know hot to find out what it has, I guess I could email them |
| 19:50.19 | Tiersten | There is a list of enclosures on the nslu2-general yahoogroup database |
| 19:50.23 | grimreap | http://www.sabrent.com/products/index.htm |
| 19:50.25 | Tiersten | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1 |
| 19:50.28 | grimreap | oh thanks |
| 19:51.49 | grimreap | SABRENT SBT-ESU35 Enclosure NO N/A |
| 19:51.52 | grimreap | figures =\ |
| 19:53.50 | Tiersten | That the one you've got? |
| 19:55.48 | grimreap | yeah heh |
| 19:56.10 | grimreap | I had contacted linksys trying to figure out what was wrong and they told me to get return it for a new one, the nslu2 |
| 19:56.10 | Tiersten | You having the same problems though? |
| 19:56.13 | Tiersten | ah |
| 19:56.14 | grimreap | yeah |
| 19:56.25 | grimreap | Recognized by NSLU2, but causes the NSLU2 to report it as "Not Installed" randomly. |
| 19:56.52 | Tiersten | When you say randomly, is it when you start it up? Or does it jut randomly say that even when it's not been powered off? |
| 19:57.26 | grimreap | when I start it up and sometimes when the unit is turned on |
| 19:57.47 | grimreap | I did have both working for a brief time and when it tried to backup to the 2nd disk the nslu2 locked up completely |
| 19:57.57 | grimreap | when I restarted both drives were no longer detected |
| 19:58.13 | Tiersten | ah |
| 19:58.17 | grimreap | so know of a cheap ext drive case ? =] |
| 19:58.27 | Tiersten | was wondering if the drive wasn't spinning up in time or something but it doesn't sound like that |
| 19:58.36 | grimreap | oh yeah it spins up |
| 20:01.19 | CIA-7 | 03gieldn * 10unslung/make/glib.mk: Revamped to match template.mk. Updated to version 2.6.1. We're using the make install of glib now to get all the files to the right location. Locales are handled by a variable in the makefile. |
| 20:01.28 | giel | there! |
| 20:01.53 | giel | dunno if it compiles native, but cross is okay |
| 20:02.05 | giel | and glib applications actually like the libs |
| 20:03.10 | giel | wow fuck |
| 20:03.15 | giel | i have to be somewhere NOW |
| 20:03.19 | giel | bbl |
| 20:05.06 | grimreap | 75 bucks for two new external cases |
| 20:08.22 | VoodooZ | Crap. openslug is even more broken now. |
| 20:10.00 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:11.57 | VoodooZ | I get: /local/openslug/build/tmp/work/initscripts-1.0-r27/temp/run.do_install.6468: line 446: do_install: command not found |
| 20:12.20 | kergoth | that doesnt make any sense. |
| 20:12.26 | kergoth | i'm doing oe builds as we speak. flawless. |
| 20:12.27 | VoodooZ | (taken from /local/openslug/build/tmp/work/initscripts-1.0-r27/temp/log.do_install.6468) |
| 20:12.35 | kergoth | not for nslu2, not from the nslu2 repository |
| 20:13.01 | VoodooZ | I wouldn't mind cloning a new one but with all the private changes it's becoming increasingly tedious to carry them over. |
| 20:13.16 | kergoth | why dont you just maintain a patchset? |
| 20:13.18 | kergoth | quilt is your friend |
| 20:13.33 | kergoth | quilt pop -a; bk pull; bk push -a |
| 20:13.38 | kergoth | what have you |
| 20:13.38 | VoodooZ | I guess I'm a both lazy and dumb. |
| 20:13.51 | VoodooZ | I'll look into it. |
| 20:14.20 | VoodooZ | Is that an external tool? |
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| 20:16.27 | Ketsum | anybody willing to help a newbie ? |
| 20:17.03 | ka6sox-away | have you had a chance to read the wiki? |
| 20:17.19 | ka6sox-away | a lot of questions are answered there better than we can here! |
| 20:17.49 | Ketsum | Your right I will check that first |
| 20:18.04 | ka6sox-away | ~nslu2-wiki |
| 20:18.05 | jbot | from memory, nslu2-wiki is the short-hand way of saying "Have a look at the NSLU2-Linux Wiki at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/". |
| 20:19.14 | VoodooZ | kergoth: check out the dump in #flood |
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| 20:21.42 | kergoth | i'm not in #flood |
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| 20:23.56 | bennny | Question : I have installed the newest firmware (followed the manual) the at a cetain point I have to run the /sbin/unsling script This works also fine. But I do not see anywhere a /unslung directory. Is this normal ? Or do I have to create by hand ? |
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| 20:28.32 | kergoth | VoodooZ: you try that yet? |
| 20:29.32 | VoodooZ | yep. I just posted in OE |
| 20:36.22 | az_707 | can anyone tell me how to work with libdb package? |
| 20:36.47 | az_707 | do i have to write my own programm to generate a db? with it? |
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| 22:30.39 | winkle | how can I umount my disks so I can fsck? just getting Device or resource busy... |
| 22:31.27 | perlguru | goto maintenance mode in the web interface |
| 22:31.44 | perlguru | it is located in the admin advanced upgrade menu |
| 22:31.54 | winkle | thanks |
| 22:31.58 | perlguru | this will reboot the slug |
| 22:32.17 | perlguru | you can also reboot without disk attached |
| 22:32.25 | perlguru | :) |
| 22:32.59 | perlguru | if in maintenace mode you can also use the scandisc funtion |
| 22:33.14 | winkle | scandisc is fsck i guess? |
| 22:33.19 | perlguru | yep |
| 22:34.09 | winkle | oki, thanks alot |
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| 23:18.30 | rwhitby-away | Tiersten: ping |
| 23:20.35 | CIA-7 | 03edmondsc * 10upslug/upslug.c: fix resource not available error |
| 23:22.15 | jacques | hi rwhitby-away |
| 23:24.41 | rwhitby-away | hi jacques |
| 23:24.49 | rwhitby-away | still no joy on the enclosure front :-( |
| 23:25.19 | rwhitby-away | I'm going to snoop the USB protocol on Windows with Snoopy and see if there is anything special there I can spot |
| 23:25.45 | jacques | man that's a shame :-( |
| 23:25.57 | rwhitby-away | I tried OpenSlug, but that was a complete mess, cause /sbin/init is missing, so it drops into recovery mode, and /proc/bus/usb didn't exist. |
| 23:26.20 | jacques | did yo uhear? that's a oe bug |
| 23:26.30 | rwhitby-away | yeah, I just saw that in the logs |
| 23:27.31 | rwhitby-away | the enclosure worked on Knoppix on the dell laptop (2.4.24-xfs). It had a bulk/timeout error, but seemed to recover and continue to mount fine |
| 23:28.47 | rwhitby-away | the enclosure itself is the same height and width as the slug, with the thickness of the drive itself plus two thin plates of aluminium. |
| 23:29.00 | rwhitby-away | so I really want to get it to work ... |
| 23:30.02 | rwhitby-away | back later ... |
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| 23:42.45 | NSLU2-IRC | hey anyone here? |
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| 23:47.09 | NSLU2-IRC | hello |
| 23:48.06 | noud_ | NSLU2-IRC, you a irc-greeting bot ? |
| 23:49.18 | Christopher | NSLU2-IRC: please change your nick from NSLU2-IRC before talking in the channel |
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| 23:55.18 | az_707 | re |
| 23:57.03 | NSLU2-IRC | no |
| 23:57.08 | NSLU2-IRC | k |
| 23:57.09 | NSLU2-IRC | 1sec |
| 23:59.05 | noud_ | is it ok to idle here ? i just started with unslung and i'm already 24/7 on freenode |