| 00:01.25 | kolla | [g2]: call? are you nuts? ever heard about email? :) |
| 00:04.09 | [g2] | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ts-7000/message/256 |
| 00:04.40 | [g2] | kolla, this is the 21st centuary talk is cheap :) |
| 00:04.51 | kolla | hehe |
| 00:05.26 | kolla | I have already sent them mail asking whether the IDE controller card they have is supported.. :) |
| 00:07.32 | [g2] | iirc that may have been on the mailing list |
| 00:08.33 | [g2] | there's a CF slot, it's not terribly fast from what I read, but you be able to put a microdrive in it |
| 00:08.48 | [g2] | don't know how much storage you're looking for |
| 00:31.13 | kolla | [g2]: 20/40GB 1.8" drive |
| 00:31.30 | kolla | they're cheap :) |
| 00:31.55 | jacques | hmm how long has oe been using gcc 3.4.3 ? am I just out of it? |
| 00:31.58 | kolla | anyways, they expect to have drivers ready in few weeks |
| 00:33.04 | [g2] | for the ide card ? |
| 00:34.36 | jacques | "a few weeks" hmmm, well if I run that through the intel-speak translator, that comes out to 8-9 months |
| 00:35.36 | kolla | [g2]: yes |
| 00:35.52 | jacques | tho for most companies, "a few weeks" means 3-5 months |
| 00:35.58 | kolla | the TS-9600 |
| 00:36.02 | [g2] | I saw some else had a PC-104 USB 2.0 card for like $200 or $250 |
| 00:37.18 | kolla | the TS-9600 is $99 on their site |
| 00:39.14 | kolla | as an amiga-person, I'm all patience :) |
| 00:39.34 | kolla | they wanted to know how quickly I need it though, hehe |
| 00:39.59 | kolla | "need" is such a strong word :) |
| 00:40.20 | [g2] | anybody know how do dump assembler in gdb ? |
| 00:43.32 | [g2] | 0x81e4 <main>: mov r12, sp |
| 00:43.32 | [g2] | 0x81e8 <main+4>: stmdb sp!, {r11, r12, lr, pc} |
| 00:43.32 | [g2] | 0x81ec <main+8>: sub r11, r12, #4 ; 0x4 |
| 00:43.32 | [g2] | 0x81f0 <main+12>: ldr r0, [pc, #8] ; 0x8200 <$d> |
| 00:43.46 | [g2] | bbiab |
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| 00:48.10 | jacques | sigh. current openslug image build fails |
| 00:48.15 | jacques | (clean build) |
| 00:48.31 | jacques | ERROR: log data follows (/home/packages/oe/nslu2/build_openslug_default/tmp/work/module-init-tools-cross-3.1-pre5-r1/temp/log.do_install.4979) |
| 00:48.31 | jacques | | mv: cannot stat `/home/packages/oe/nslu2/build_openslug_default/tmp/work/module-init-tools-cross-3.1-pre5-r1/image/bin/lsmod': No such file or directory |
| 00:48.57 | [g2] | jacques, it worked this morning |
| 00:49.33 | jacques | how nice for it |
| 00:53.15 | jacques | [g2], when it worked for you (assuming from a clean build) did you have this? |
| 00:53.17 | jacques | ChangeSet@1.2693, 2004-12-07 13:43:37-08:00, nslu2-linux.adm@bkbits.net |
| 00:53.18 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.18 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.03 | [g2] | jacques, what's the bk command to show the latest changesets ? I've got it around somewhere |
| 00:55.11 | jacques | bk changes |
| 00:55.36 | [g2] | bash-2.05b$ bk changes | head |
| 00:55.36 | [g2] | ChangeSet@1.2692, 2004-12-07 22:55:16+10:30, rwhitby@home.(none) |
| 00:55.36 | [g2] | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.58 | jacques | searching for 'module' in bk changes does not return anything obvious |
| 00:56.37 | jacques | hmm it could be this: |
| 00:56.39 | jacques | ChangeSet@1.2674.62.22, 2004-12-04 22:43:31+00:00, pb@stealth.nexus.co.uk |
| 00:56.39 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.50 | jacques | because the error is in the packaging step |
| 00:57.16 | jacques | [g2], do you have ChangeSet@1.2674.62.22 ? |
| 00:58.34 | [g2] | bash-2.05b$ bk changes | grep 2674.62 |
| 00:58.34 | [g2] | ChangeSet@1.2674.62.1, 2004-12-03 16:33:56+01:00, br1@null.(none) |
| 00:59.34 | jacques | ok so it's looking more like 1.2674.62.22 broke it, and the merge from oe-devel today brought it into nslu2-linux |
| 01:00.12 | jacques | this word you say "improvements" I no think it means what you think it means :-) |
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| 01:01.22 | jacques | ~seen pb_ |
| 01:01.25 | jbot | pb_ <~pb@2002:5168:d330:1:20b:6aff:fe40:e27f> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1h 37m 37s ago, saying: 'it'd be kind of nice if you didn't need to keep sources/cvs/ lying around. oe should really be able to untar the old version, cvs update, then tar up the new one.'. |
| 01:02.04 | jacques | darn, just missed him - he's gone to bed now probably (not on anymore) |
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| 01:26.01 | kolla | [g2]: you know the endianess of the ts-7200? |
| 01:27.42 | [g2] | kolla, I think I'm building le, I think arm's in general are endian neutral but often run le |
| 01:27.43 | kolla | guess it's litle endian since it runs debian :) |
| 01:28.36 | [g2] | bash-2.05b$ file hello_dynamic |
| 01:28.36 | [g2] | hello_dynamic: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), for GNU/Linux 2.4.3, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 01:28.48 | [g2] | LSB is that le |
| 01:29.35 | kolla | MSB is be |
| 01:29.37 | [g2] | what's the option on gcc to dump the specs ? |
| 01:29.57 | [g2] | dumpspecs :) |
| 01:33.55 | [g2] | -v looks even better :) |
| 01:36.57 | CIA-7 | 03edmondsc * 10unslung/sources/ntp/ (Makefile ntp.conf postinst rc.ntpd control): ntp initial check in testing needed before made into offical package |
| 01:36.57 | ka6sox-laptop | My BE machine runs debian |
| 01:37.24 | ka6sox-laptop | at 1.2ghz |
| 01:38.41 | CIA-7 | 03edmondsc * 10unslung/sources/freeradius/control.doc: forgot a file for freeradius |
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| 02:23.13 | ka6sox-laptop | rwhitby-web: ping |
| 02:25.21 | ka6sox-laptop | rwhitby-web: <rwhitby>ka6sox: we should get that cron script set up some time. |
| 02:25.25 | ka6sox-laptop | ??? |
| 02:47.14 | jacques | ~weather kcvo |
| 02:48.02 | ka6sox-laptop | ~weather ksba |
| 02:48.15 | ka6sox-laptop | heh...try rain. |
| 02:49.35 | jacques | i wish it wasn't truncated |
| 02:49.43 | ka6sox-laptop | yeah. |
| 02:51.49 | jacques | I'm not sure, but I know there are free sources from the us govt |
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| 02:54.29 | ka6sox-laptop | at least math class isn't at 8am! |
| 02:55.20 | jacques | ooh I hated 7:30am classes |
| 02:55.30 | [g2] | jacques, any luck with the OpenSlug build ? |
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| 02:56.21 | jacques | [g2], I haven't really dug into it yet - I was thinking of maybe asking pb_ when he gets back (which wont be for several hours tho) |
| 02:56.32 | [g2] | ah |
| 02:56.40 | jacques | I guess I should look at that changeset and try to figure out why it broke our build |
| 02:56.48 | kergoth | whats the problem? |
| 02:56.56 | jacques | our meaning openslug |
| 02:57.15 | jacques | kergoth, I suspect this changeset: |
| 02:57.16 | jacques | ChangeSet@1.2674.62.22, 2004-12-04 22:43:31+00:00, pb@stealth.nexus.co.uk |
| 02:57.17 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.23 | jacques | is causing this error: |
| 02:57.36 | jacques | NOTE: package module-init-tools-cross-3.1-pre5-r1: task do_package started |
| 02:57.42 | jacques | | mv: cannot stat `/home/packages/oe/nslu2/build_openslug_default/tmp/work/module-init-tools-cross-3.1-pre5-r1/image/bin/lsmod': No such file or directory |
| 02:59.56 | kergoth | do_install_append() { |
| 03:00.09 | kergoth | jacques: change that line in module-init-tools_3.1-pre5.oe to: |
| 03:00.12 | kergoth | do_install () { |
| 03:00.19 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.08 | jacques | ok |
| 03:03.49 | kergoth | the issue is that _append and _prepend are permanent. there's no way to undo them |
| 03:03.54 | kergoth | and -cross 'include's this .oe |
| 03:04.00 | kergoth | so that append happens for the cross version as well |
| 03:04.45 | kergoth | which we dont want |
| 03:04.45 | jacques | ah |
| 03:04.46 | jacques | are maby projects using the module-init-tools-cross yet? |
| 03:04.48 | jacques | many |
| 03:05.27 | jacques | kergoth, that change appears to have fixed the problem - shall I commit it to nslu2-linux or are you going to make the change in oe-devel ? |
| 03:05.28 | kergoth | afaik this is the only one |
| 03:05.39 | kergoth | despite the fact taht this is the only 2.6 one that it wont work with |
| 03:05.41 | kergoth | due to endianness |
| 03:05.51 | jacques | heh I think that's called irony |
| 03:05.57 | kergoth | heheh |
| 03:05.58 | jacques | ~irony |
| 03:05.59 | jbot | irony is probably that killing the person is also "wrong", but it's a good kind of "wrong" |
| 03:06.07 | kergoth | i'll be using it for my omap boards running 2.6 |
| 03:06.11 | jacques | hmg wasn't expecting that definition |
| 03:06.27 | kergoth | ~forget irony |
| 03:06.27 | jbot | kergoth: i forgot irony |
| 03:07.21 | jacques | kergoth, so who commits the fix ? |
| 03:13.36 | kergoth | i'm busy at the moment. feel free |
| 03:16.45 | jacques | ok |
| 03:20.27 | jacques | change pushed - I guess CIA is slow |
| 03:20.36 | CIA-7 | 03jacques 07 * r1.2694 10packages/module-init-tools/module-init-tools_3.1-pre5.oe: module-init-tools: fixes recent packaging improvements change which broke -cross build |
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| 03:21.37 | ka6sox | jacques: would this make a module I'm trying to insmod fail? |
| 03:22.46 | jacques | ka6sox I don;t think so - this change caused the module-init-tools-cross package to not be packaged |
| 03:22.57 | jacques | ka6sox what error are you getting? |
| 03:22.58 | ka6sox | okay |
| 03:23.17 | ka6sox | trying to insmod the appletalk ddp stack. |
| 03:23.31 | jacques | undefined symbols? |
| 03:23.51 | ka6sox | yes |
| 03:24.15 | dyoung-web | did you insmod appletalk (or maybe its atalk) before the ddp stuff? |
| 03:24.30 | jacques | have you tried modprobe ? sometimes that just means you need to load some other module/s first |
| 03:25.38 | ka6sox | I tried to insmod appletalk and got undefined symbols |
| 03:26.02 | jacques | try modprobe appletalk |
| 03:26.11 | ka6sox | okay let me try that. |
| 03:27.17 | ka6sox | better |
| 03:27.26 | ka6sox | no complaints. |
| 03:28.23 | ka6sox | dyoung-web: made further progress today. Still not working right yet |
| 03:28.25 | jacques | what else did it load ? |
| 03:28.56 | ka6sox | it crashed. |
| 03:28.58 | dyoung-web | ka6sox, how far does it et now/ |
| 03:29.05 | ka6sox | booting the kernel! |
| 03:29.16 | dyoung-web | what was the problem? |
| 03:29.20 | ka6sox | I had a bad kernel image |
| 03:29.26 | dyoung-web | Aha! |
| 03:29.42 | ka6sox | might have been something to do with the BDI testing. |
| 03:30.08 | ka6sox | jacques: let me look at dmesg |
| 03:30.13 | dyoung-web | Okay, so it boots the kernel, but what part isnt right yet? |
| 03:30.39 | ka6sox | "freeing 74kb memory" |
| 03:30.39 | jacques | ka6sox lsmod should be enough - whatever is below appletalk that wasn't there before |
| 03:30.48 | ka6sox | dinner. |