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| 00:05.59 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: -rwxr-xr-x 1 rwhitby rwhitby 244384 Nov 30 10:28 switchbox |
| 00:07.18 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, what's that squeeze down to ? |
| 00:07.27 | [g2] | gzip style ? |
| 00:07.31 | rwhitby-web | generating image now |
| 00:08.54 | [g2] | does slugimage automatically adjust the partition sizes based on the ramdisk.gz size ? |
| 00:09.36 | [g2] | jacques, ping |
| 00:13.21 | kolla | so.. I buildt an openslug image..do I dare flash it? :) |
| 00:14.05 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: eys |
| 00:14.07 | rwhitby-web | yes |
| 00:14.24 | kolla | or to be more precise.. will it come online when booting on its own? |
| 00:14.46 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: and you can even override it's default packing algorithm by specifying the sizes yourself |
| 00:14.57 | rwhitby-web | kolla: you've got serial, right? |
| 00:15.13 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, schweet! |
| 00:15.58 | kolla | rwhitby-away: uhm, no :) |
| 00:16.06 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: is this page still correct: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugStatus |
| 00:16.23 | kolla | perhaps I should make sure I make a kernel with net console, hehe |
| 00:17.03 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, it's a little out of date |
| 00:17.17 | rwhitby-web | kolla: if you do, please put up a HowTo/EnableAKernelNetworkConsole wiki page ... |
| 00:17.24 | kolla | so.. a serial line is a must to play with openslug then |
| 00:17.42 | rwhitby-web | unless you like debugging in the dark, yes :-) |
| 00:18.03 | kolla | isnt it possible to load the entire image over tftp? |
| 00:18.14 | kolla | instead of flashing I mean |
| 00:18.29 | rwhitby-web | you need to flash the FIS directory at least |
| 00:18.43 | kolla | ok |
| 00:18.48 | rwhitby-web | otherwise your mtd parition map will not include the jffs2 partition |
| 00:20.58 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: -rwxr-xr-x 1 rwhitby rwhitby 141599 Nov 30 10:28 switchbox.gz |
| 00:21.10 | rwhitby-web | not looking promising for 128Kb switchbox ... |
| 00:21.26 | [g2] | how big is PING ? |
| 00:22.18 | rwhitby-web | cutting it down to minimum now .... |
| 00:22.21 | kolla | rwhitby-web: in theory it should be possible to use one of the usb ports as serial console thought :) |
| 00:22.44 | rwhitby-web | kolla: with the right kernel stuff, yes |
| 00:25.35 | rwhitby-web | in theory, lots of different things are possible ;-) |
| 00:29.51 | kolla | ;) |
| 00:35.20 | kolla | rwhitby-web: so it is highly unlikely that an openslug will get online by itself then? |
| 00:35.52 | rwhitby-web | [g2] should answer that - I have no idea |
| 00:36.12 | [g2] | online ? |
| 00:37.10 | [g2] | kolla, do you mean on the network ? |
| 00:37.13 | kolla | as in.. use dhcp to get an address, answer to ping, being avaible for telner or ssh |
| 00:37.16 | kolla | yes |
| 00:37.37 | [g2] | well my openslug is currently doing an ifup -a |
| 00:37.50 | [g2] | it has a static addr, but could easily be changed to dhcp |
| 00:38.10 | [g2] | then I'd just need to plug it into my router that gives out dhcp |
| 00:38.11 | kolla | [g2]: my point is just that I dont have a serial console :) |
| 00:38.53 | [g2] | kolla, I'm a couple days maybe a week away from flashing openslug on a non-serial port enabled unit |
| 00:39.14 | kolla | ah, ok :) |
| 00:39.35 | [g2] | you can still reflash via RedBoot |
| 00:39.56 | kolla | ok, so it wont be "bricked"? :) |
| 00:40.09 | [g2] | so unless Redboot gets toasted (then you need JTAG) |
| 00:40.18 | kolla | what kernel does it openslug use? |
| 00:40.34 | [g2] | and we've done JTAG so full brickage is very unlikely |
| 00:40.37 | [g2] | 2.6.9 |
| 00:40.52 | kolla | I like my nslu2 so much I'm pondering on getting another :) |
| 00:42.25 | kolla | me neither, but it takes a heck lot less space that.. say.. the xbox :) |
| 00:43.17 | kergoth | someone i know is thinking about building a cheap usb->vga peripheral for his. would be kinda cool |
| 00:43.20 | kolla | we have some stuff we might use t for at work |
| 00:43.22 | [g2] | yeah, but kergoth could use it :) |
| 00:44.12 | kolla | radius server with simple interface for the schools |
| 00:44.45 | kolla | to do authentication for ISDN dialups and 801.1x |
| 00:45.12 | kolla | much simpler to ship along than some PC :) |
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| 00:48.21 | [g2] | bbiab |
| 00:48.27 | ka6sox-laptop | k |
| 00:48.44 | kolla | # CONFIG_NETCONSOLE is not set :) |
| 00:48.50 | kolla | tsk tsk :) |
| 00:48.53 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: here are the switchbox sizes (all uncompressed): Current: 158528, Add tar -z: 178168, Add insmod: 194580, Add ifconfig: 215432, Add telnetd: 238396, Add ping: 244384 |
| 00:49.17 | rwhitby-web | kolla: not much point in enabling a netconsole without a working network interface, is there ? |
| 00:49.43 | ka6sox-laptop | yep |
| 00:50.49 | kolla | rwhitby-away: there isnt any? I thought there was |
| 00:51.11 | rwhitby-web | not one that comes up automatically, which is what you need for a console, right? |
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| 00:51.48 | kolla | yes.. the network console will be available as soon as network is up.. from what I have read |
| 00:52.19 | kolla | I should try it out on my pc first :) |
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| 00:55.01 | kolla | it's just for logging btw |
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| 01:11.15 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: switchbox genext2fs: EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext2.gz = "-r 0 -z -q -U -P -f ${SWITCHBOX_DEVICE_TABLE}" |
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| 01:12.26 | peteru | rwhitby-web: I started blogging the Toppy project. You might want to have a read and offer opinions / get on board. |
| 01:12.32 | rwhitby-web | [not sure about the -q -U -P, and not sure whether -z will buy us anything] |
| 01:12.38 | kergoth | whats toppy? |
| 01:12.46 | rwhitby-web | ~toppy |
| 01:12.47 | jbot | methinks toppy is a dual tuner digital receiver and personal video recorder - see http://www.topfield.co.kr/product_e/pr_feature.asp?cb=DTR&cm=PVR&pn=TF5000PVRt |
| 01:12.53 | kergoth | ah |
| 01:12.57 | rwhitby-web | peteru: cool - URL ? |
| 01:13.07 | peteru | http://peteru.blogspot.com/ |
| 01:13.38 | peteru | two entries so far |
| 01:15.59 | rwhitby-web | peteru: puppy.sf.net seems to be free ... where are you intending to share code? |
| 01:16.40 | peteru | rwhitby-web: I was kind of hoping you might have suggestions in terms of house keeping / infrastructure. |
| 01:17.04 | peteru | I've got a local CVS repository, but I am happy to use a hosted CVS at sf or the like. |
| 01:17.11 | rwhitby-web | Do you want to use the infrastructure we have for nslu2-linux, and just make it another project here (like Unslung and OpenSlug) ? |
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| 01:17.39 | rwhitby-web | we can use the nslu.sf.net CVS for it if you like |
| 01:17.47 | peteru | I was considering it. |
| 01:17.50 | rwhitby-web | just another nslu-related module |
| 01:18.13 | rwhitby-web | nslu-puppy@lists.sf.net would be available |
| 01:18.49 | rwhitby-web | or you could set up puppy.sf.net, and still use the other nslu2-linux infrastructure (wiki, slugbug, etc) |
| 01:19.14 | rwhitby-web | puppy will just be an unslung .ipk right ? :-) |
| 01:19.50 | rwhitby-web | (and will therefore work with openslug too, with a different build) |
| 01:20.00 | peteru | I think a separate SF.net project page might be good for the code that I expect to be ported to x86 Linux and other platforms and make a new nslu2 module for a flashable end-user distro |
| 01:20.58 | peteru | I expect that eventually the average user will want to just download an image and flash it to turn a slug into their PVR gateway. |
| 01:21.05 | rwhitby-web | another OE distro for puppy, which downloads the source from puppy.sf.net ? |
| 01:21.33 | peteru | however, part one would be just an ipk for clued users. camps 2 and higher |
| 01:21.42 | rwhitby-web | and a puppy package in OE, so that we can produce ipks for unslung and openslug |
| 01:22.09 | rwhitby-web | I think that covers all bases |
| 01:22.49 | peteru | I think that the home for puppy would be at sf.net and the OE build would either pull from CVS with a tag or use a released tarball. |
| 01:23.04 | rwhitby-web | depending upon what existing nslu2 distro puppy-image is based upon, it may or may not need another distro (it might just be a separate unslung or openslug image package) |
| 01:23.09 | rwhitby-web | peteru: agreed |
| 01:23.43 | rwhitby-web | do you have all the privs you need in the nslu2-linux infrastructure to do all this ? |
| 01:24.02 | rwhitby-web | (I will help of course, since this is my end-game for the slug too) |
| 01:24.52 | peteru | Not quite sure. I was kind of hoping that I would set up the sf.net site later this week and then ask you to help fold it into the slug infrastructure :-) |
| 01:25.10 | peteru | I need to catch up with what has been happening around here for the last few weeks. |
| 01:25.11 | rwhitby-web | I think all you need to do is register the puppy sf project, and add rwhitby as a second admin - and we have the means at our disposal to do everything else |
| 01:25.44 | peteru | I'm still on an early unslung 2 alpha release. |
| 01:25.56 | peteru | I want to go to openslug, assuming it's ready. |
| 01:26.07 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: can OE pull sources from a separate BK repo ? (I'm wondering whether puppy should be in CVS or BK) |
| 01:26.19 | rwhitby-web | oh - peteru, you preferred CVS, right? |
| 01:26.36 | peteru | I'm familiar with CVS, so no learning curve for me. |
| 01:26.43 | rwhitby-web | works for me |
| 01:27.39 | rwhitby-web | ok, let me know when puppy.sf.net is up and we can do the rest. Do you want puppy.nslu2-linux.org to point to puppy.sf.net ? |
| 01:31.05 | peteru | probably a good idea. Let me register first and confirm... |
| 01:33.27 | [g2] | re |
| 01:36.29 | rwhitby-web | peteru: you're being very coy on the topfield forums :-) |
| 01:37.32 | rwhitby-web | but I guess the blog contains the big reveal ... |
| 01:39.50 | peteru | the relevant information at the dba and topfield forums is so fleeting with all that noise, that I decided to keep it ambigous until I could do the right thing elsewhere. |
| 01:40.26 | peteru | the blog and project pages will have all the info without much noise - I hope. |
| 01:41.05 | peteru | I also want to entice hackers to join in |
| 01:41.20 | peteru | hackers in the traditional sense, not crackers. |
| 01:44.38 | rwhitby-web | peteru: yeah - good plan. you need that small barrier to make sure that you get geniune developers at this stage, not just people wanting the output earlier |
| 01:45.23 | rwhitby-web | Just spoke to Jai and he's going to send me over the latest firmware too. Bloody Toll IPEC are on strike, so my hard disk upgrade is sitting behind the picket line at the moment. |
| 01:47.28 | rwhitby-web | peteru: looks like Jai is waiting for Puppy to be released too - he said it's something he would use himself. |
| 01:48.36 | peteru | I got the firmware last night, I'll reply to his email and point him at the blog :-) |
| 01:48.51 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: did you see the switchbox size figures ? |
| 01:49.24 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, yes |
| 01:49.39 | [g2] | I guess it's 2 blocks |
| 01:49.51 | rwhitby-web | yeah, looks like it |
| 01:50.01 | [g2] | unless the smallest one gzip's below 128kB |
| 01:51.18 | rwhitby-web | the current one (158528) fits in a block |
| 01:51.56 | rwhitby-web | that's the serial recovery, with stick in a flash disk and dd to /dev/mtdblock4 (ignoring bad blocks) recovery functionality |
| 01:52.16 | rwhitby-web | but it looks like a networked recovery will be two blocks |
| 01:52.29 | [g2] | it'd be tempted to put something like zmodem on the serial |
| 01:52.45 | [g2] | not too tempted, but it's been done before |
| 01:53.01 | rwhitby-web | why? just put the image on a flash disk and plug it in ... |
| 01:53.25 | [g2] | because with an eth-to-serial setup you could recover from 500 miles away on the network |
| 01:53.32 | rwhitby-web | oh, unless you're doing remote access - right |
| 01:53.38 | [g2] | nod. |
| 01:53.54 | rwhitby-web | yeah, jacques and I considered that at the time. |
| 01:54.11 | [g2] | in a former life (telco access gear) we had customers that had devices 300 miles away |
| 01:54.23 | [g2] | one-way |
| 01:54.48 | [g2] | boy would they get pissed |
| 01:55.02 | [g2] | obviously this only happened a few times :) |
| 01:55.15 | [g2] | very early alpha customers |
| 01:55.57 | [g2] | either that or it was sometimes a 100 mile trip for a power-cycle |
| 01:56.05 | [g2] | but this a was a while ago |
| 01:56.53 | kergoth | rwhitby-web: not sure if there's a bk fetcher. i dont think so. hasnt been needed yet. wouldnt take long to add |
| 01:57.06 | kergoth | downside is that not everyone building has bk on hand |
| 01:57.18 | kergoth | so we've tended to avoid it, using snapshots & release tarballs & patches instead |
| 01:57.24 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: yeah - we've decided to go CVS for puppy |
| 01:57.29 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:57.41 | kergoth | could always put it on savannah, dont they have subversion? |
| 01:58.09 | rwhitby-web | then both peteru and myself would have to learn svn I think :-) |
| 01:59.41 | kergoth | its a lot like cvs |
| 01:59.44 | kergoth | similar syntax, etc. |
| 01:59.48 | kergoth | just fixes a lot of its issues |
| 01:59.56 | rwhitby-web | yeah, I've read the manual, but not used it in anger |
| 02:00.40 | kergoth | i havent read the manual, but have used it in anger :) |
| 02:01.23 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: didn't see zmodem in busybox |
| 02:02.50 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, Isn't not probably there |
| 02:02.59 | rwhitby-web | I take that back - "rx" is there |
| 02:03.17 | kergoth | heh, xmodem! fun |
| 02:04.16 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: -rw-r--r-- 1 rwhitby rwhitby 157058 Nov 30 12:25 tmp/deploy/images/switchbox-nslu2-20041130010911.rootfs.ext2.gz |
| 02:04.23 | rwhitby-web | that's with everything including ping |
| 02:04.53 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, and a little room for expansion :) |
| 02:04.53 | rwhitby-web | and hopefully no lost found blocks |
| 02:05.08 | [g2] | +++ |
| 02:05.43 | rwhitby-web | yeah - CGIU::IRC eats them |
| 02:06.00 | [g2] | chomp chomp |
| 02:06.16 | [g2] | even \+ |
| 02:06.22 | rwhitby-web | \ |
| 02:06.40 | [g2] | the must be some escape char |
| 02:06.44 | rwhitby-web | \\ \ ' ' + |
| 02:07.21 | rwhitby-web | so is everyone happy for us to use 2 blocks for switchbox ? |
| 02:07.59 | [g2] | I'm okay with that for now |
| 02:08.36 | rwhitby-web | "for now" - these things never get smaller :-) |
| 02:09.04 | [g2] | until we change RedBoot and then we can do a timeout on the RedBoot telnet |
| 02:09.13 | [g2] | connect |
| 02:09.26 | rwhitby-web | with two blocks we can probably fit the ixp modules in there too .... |
| 02:09.48 | [g2] | actually you probably don't want to |
| 02:09.51 | ka6sox-laptop | . |
| 02:10.09 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: right - we want to keep it kernel independent. |
| 02:10.15 | [g2] | nod. |
| 02:10.24 | [g2] | but you could :) |
| 02:10.51 | rwhitby-web | I want to keep switchbox useable for both Unslung and OpenSlug as long as possible ... |
| 02:12.06 | rwhitby-web | and the ixp modules are the only ones I know of that we can't put static in the kernels (which is also a fixed max size for us which we can fill up) |
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| 02:14.54 | rwhitby-web | Hi chacal! |
| 02:15.12 | chacal | hey |
| 02:15.25 | chacal | i am trying to unbrick my nslu2, came here for advice, but think i may have gotten it. |
| 02:16.21 | rwhitby-web | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash , right? |
| 02:16.22 | peteru | congrats on both bricking and unbricking :-) |
| 02:18.00 | Ksilebo | I bricked my router a few times. |
| 02:18.06 | Ksilebo | Thankfully, was able to debrick. |
| 02:19.09 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: what else will be handy in Switchbox, now that we have 2 blocks to play with :-) |
| 02:19.40 | [g2] | having it working and tested :) |
| 02:19.59 | rwhitby-web | :-) I'm adding tftp client too (cause that's how I will be testing it) |
| 02:20.01 | [g2] | it's not really the place to be stuffing extra functionality :) |
| 02:20.29 | rwhitby-web | just all the different ways to access and install a new image |
| 02:21.28 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, I'm digging being mostly running off the hd |
| 02:21.48 | rwhitby-web | I wonder if we could get switchbox to have a web interface for flashing new images ... |
| 02:22.27 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: right - we need to get the kernel args stuff done so that we can get switchbox to go straight to a hard disk and not have to sleep. |
| 02:23.43 | [g2] | in the 2.6 code hotplug or something else seems to spins a bunch, |
| 02:23.52 | [g2] | you've got your own startup scripts |
| 02:24.29 | kergoth | spins a bunch? |
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| 02:31.18 | [g2] | kergoth, yeah, a couple K PID |
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| 03:05.55 | peteru | not sure if this is an issue in current slingbox/busybox/switchbox, but the slingbox in early unslung 2.x alphas is unable to operate on files larger than 2GB - not even ls, chmod or rm :( |
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| 03:16.48 | Christopher | hmmm, I'm not sure |
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| 03:19.37 | rwhitby-web | peteru: current slingbox defconfig has LFS set |
| 03:20.25 | rwhitby-web | all the busybox incarnations for nslu2-linux have CONFIG_LFS=y for that reason (> 2Gb file support) |
| 03:29.05 | peteru | good to hear. I really need to flash a current unslung-able; maybe tonight. |
| 03:29.46 | peteru | I've got a new enclosure with a 37GB drive to unsling to. |
| 03:33.21 | rwhitby-web | if you flash 3.x, then you no longer need the external disk :-) |
| 03:33.43 | rwhitby-web | (for the rootfs at least) |
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| 03:35.43 | Gaijin42 | Anyone have a known unix password hash I can set in my passwd file so I can install unslung? |
| 03:36.35 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: if you read the Unslung README installation details, then you don't need one |
| 03:43.42 | [g2] | nite all |
| 03:45.12 | rwhitby-web | night [g2] |
| 03:45.27 | [g2] | cheers |
| 03:57.00 | Gaijin42 | bah |
| 03:57.08 | Gaijin42 | it is making me reformat my harddrive |
| 04:01.17 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: nslu2, or Unslung? |
| 04:01.40 | Gaijin42 | Im not sure. I installed the image, and then it said my hard drive wasnt formatted anymore |
| 04:01.53 | rwhitby-web | For Unslung, you don't need to reformat (as long as it has already been formatted by the nslu2 previously) |
| 04:02.09 | Gaijin42 | well, too late on that count :) |
| 04:02.32 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: do you have a telnet session up (you must have if you are following the installation instructions, right?) |
| 04:02.45 | Gaijin42 | I do have a telnet session up |
| 04:03.07 | rwhitby-web | are you linux literate? |
| 04:03.44 | rwhitby-web | (not a judgement, just need to know at what level I need to discuss things with you) |
| 04:03.45 | Gaijin42 | Somewhat. I have installed it once or twice and played with it a while, but I am a windows man mostly |
| 04:04.27 | rwhitby-web | Unslung doesn't change the mounting of disks (apart from allowing flash disks to be mounted on Disk1) |
| 04:05.27 | Gaijin42 | well, the web admin screen said it wasnt formatted anymore. But it appears to not want to reformat it either, as when i click format, it says formatting for a moment, then switches back to unformmated |
| 04:06.12 | peteru | I had that when the disk wasn't recognised properly. |
| 04:06.21 | peteru | what drive are you using? |
| 04:06.25 | rwhitby-web | what version of Unslung? What type of disk (hard or flash) plugged into which port (Disk1 or Disk2) |
| 04:06.28 | ByronT | I had a certain enclosure do that |
| 04:07.02 | peteru | the X's Drive II would exhibit the same behaviour until I did the patches for -able |
| 04:07.21 | Gaijin42 | I am using the current unslung standard |
| 04:07.31 | Gaijin42 | it is a Western Digital drive |
| 04:07.49 | peteru | size? |
| 04:08.13 | Gaijin42 | 200GB. I rebooted the NAS and it mounts now |
| 04:08.21 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: current being the 2.12-beta binary, or the 3.8-alpha built from source? |
| 04:08.31 | Gaijin42 | 2.12 binary |
| 04:08.32 | peteru | strange. |
| 04:10.25 | Gaijin42 | hrm |
| 04:10.37 | Gaijin42 | after the reboot, it will no longer let me log in with the root password |
| 04:12.25 | Gaijin42 | should I reimage the firmware? |
| 04:13.37 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: follow the instructions - you need to have no hard disk attached to be able to log in with the root password. |
| 04:13.53 | Gaijin42 | ah |
| 04:13.59 | rwhitby-web | as soon as you plug in a hard disk, it uses the password in the file on the hard disk |
| 04:14.31 | Gaijin42 | but after |
| 04:14.31 | rwhitby-web | Let us know if we need to say that even more times in the README :-) |
| 04:14.35 | Gaijin42 | heh |
| 04:15.02 | Gaijin42 | well, it says that in the readme, but it sounds like it is a one time thing |
| 04:15.10 | rwhitby-web | when you run unsling, it changes the password on the hard disk |
| 04:15.15 | Gaijin42 | ok |
| 04:15.20 | Gaijin42 | I didnt get that far last time. |
| 04:15.43 | rwhitby-web | fair enough :-) |
| 04:16.41 | Gaijin42 | while I am waiting for that to reinstall : any recommendations on packages for www/ftpd? |
| 04:20.11 | Gaijin42 | ok, when I try to unsling, i get "Cannot locate target root partition" |
| 04:21.06 | ByronT | type in df at the prompt |
| 04:21.25 | Gaijin42 | k |
| 04:21.26 | ByronT | or check the web interface to see if the drive is recognized |
| 04:21.37 | Gaijin42 | the drive is recognized in the web |
| 04:22.02 | Gaijin42 | but I dont see anything drivelike in the df (just two 100% full partitions) |
| 04:22.23 | ByronT | let's take this to PMs to not bug these guys... |
| 04:22.26 | Gaijin42 | k |
| 04:29.07 | rwhitby-web | it's a slow time of day, so feel free to discuss it in the main channel. or not. your choice. |
| 04:29.30 | Gaijin42 | ok |
| 04:30.04 | Gaijin42 | ok, so so far :when I log in as root, the drive doesnt show up as formatted anymore |
| 04:30.19 | Gaijin42 | but when I let it boot normally, the drive shows up just fine |
| 04:30.34 | ByronT | let's get root telnet access setup.... |
| 04:30.58 | Gaijin42 | so backup the config, edit the passwd file, and upload it again? |
| 04:30.59 | ByronT | since that drive is showing as unformatted... again |
| 04:31.21 | ByronT | you need to have one user with a known passwd setup but yes |
| 04:31.21 | Gaijin42 | it shows up as formatted, if I have the drive plugged in when I turn on the nslu2 |
| 04:31.41 | Gaijin42 | I do not know a passwd hash offhand. Can I set it to no password? Or does someone have a hash? |
| 04:32.01 | ByronT | no, just setup a user in the linksys web interface |
| 04:32.01 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: you shouldn't need to manually change the password file. boot with no hard disk, then telnet in, then plug in the hard disk |
| 04:32.23 | rwhitby-web | (then we can help diagnose why the hard disk isn't being recognised) |
| 04:32.28 | Gaijin42 | ok |
| 04:32.30 | ByronT | then when you edit the passwd file, you can copy the hashed known passwd to the root passwd position... |
| 04:34.34 | Gaijin42 | ok, I am logged in as root |
| 04:34.43 | Gaijin42 | the drive is not plugged in |
| 04:35.53 | ByronT | ok, go ahead and plug in the drive |
| 04:36.31 | Gaijin42 | ok, this time it recognized the drve |
| 04:36.43 | Gaijin42 | I think it doesnt like the western digital very much |
| 04:37.08 | Gaijin42 | I had trouble getting it set up with just the standard linksys image too |
| 04:37.25 | Gaijin42 | it has its own power supply, which messes up the boot sequence I think |
| 04:37.40 | Gaijin42 | ok, unsling is running |
| 04:37.41 | ByronT | so you can go ahead and unsling the drive, if it is recognized then |
| 04:39.30 | Gaijin42 | did unsling copy down a password for me into the HD, or do I still need to set a passwod? |
| 04:39.54 | ByronT | you still need to set a passwd |
| 04:39.58 | rwhitby-web | it copied the uNSLUng password - you can now change that as per ByronT's earlier instructions |
| 04:40.14 | rwhitby-web | or you can leave it like that if you're on a physically secure subnet :-) |
| 04:40.20 | ByronT | the unslung one only works when the NSLU2 is booted without a HD drive... |
| 04:41.19 | ByronT | the uNSLUng passwd got copied - that I did not know... |
| 04:41.38 | Gaijin42 | well, I definately found some stuff for th wiki. the Western Digital has to be off/unplugged when the nslu2 is botting, then added after. It wont work it it is on and plugged in when the machine is bootin |
| 04:41.52 | Gaijin42 | the readme says the passwords were not changed |
| 04:42.43 | rwhitby-web | oh - if there was a non-default root password there, then it is not touched. If it is the default linksys, then it is changed to "uNSLUng" |
| 04:44.21 | Gaijin42 | ok |
| 04:44.29 | Gaijin42 | yes, it copied the uNSLUng password down |
| 04:44.51 | rwhitby-web | did the output of unsling not indicate that ? |
| 04:45.15 | Gaijin42 | I didn't read close enough to tell |
| 04:46.46 | Gaijin42 | ok, so now we get to the actual reason I wanted to install unslung :) |
| 04:46.52 | Gaijin42 | ftpserver/www server |
| 04:48.34 | Gaijin42 | is atftp the ftp server of choice then ? (since it is the one listed in the packages list) |
| 04:48.50 | rwhitby-web | atftp is a tftp server, not an ftp server |
| 04:48.59 | Gaijin42 | oh |
| 04:49.12 | Gaijin42 | Ive never heard of TFTP |
| 04:49.27 | ByronT | "trivial FTP".... |
| 04:49.37 | Gaijin42 | whats that? |
| 04:50.00 | ByronT | www.webopedia.com/TERM/T/TFTP.html |
| 04:50.25 | rwhitby-web | [pity that none of the 235 people how have downloaded inetutils have bothered to write a wiki page on how to use it for an ftp server ....] |
| 04:52.00 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: most people just install openssh and use the sftp server instead (then it's secure too) |
| 04:52.16 | rwhitby-web | you can use winscp to talk to it |
| 04:52.46 | Gaijin42 | my work firewall blocks ssh |
| 04:53.05 | Gaijin42 | ftp and http are my only two protocols. ;( |
| 04:55.26 | Gaijin42 | rwhitby-web : care to make that wiki page ;) |
| 04:56.35 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: touche :-) |
| 04:57.01 | rwhitby-web | I could do that, or I could continue working on the firmware - which would you prefer ... ;-) |
| 04:57.37 | Gaijin42 | well, since I know nothing about the firmware and what your updates would be, I personally would go for the ftp server, but YMMV :) |
| 04:57.39 | rwhitby-web | [considering most of the other 379 people who downloaded openssh aren't directly working on the firmware] |
| 04:58.25 | rwhitby-web | I tend to write the wiki pages for the base firmware, and let others do the package support. |
| 04:59.07 | rwhitby-web | as a community, we need to share the load around a bit |
| 04:59.20 | rwhitby-web | hence the rules: |
| 04:59.24 | rwhitby-web | ~nslu2-rules |
| 04:59.25 | jbot | somebody said nslu2-rules was 1) Those who ask the questions, update the wiki, 2) Those who complain about the doco, update the wiki, 3) Friends don't let friends flash custom firmware without confirmed RedBoot access, 4) Friends don't let friends flash custom bootloaders without confirmed JTAG access. |
| 04:59.37 | ByronT | :) |
| 04:59.53 | Gaijin42 | I would be happy to update the wiki, if I can figure it out :) |
| 05:00.01 | peteru | scp is a bit slow - about 750kB/s |
| 05:00.11 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: I seem to remember some talk about the ftp server on the mailing list, let's see if I can find it for you ... |
| 05:00.49 | peteru | ssh can be pushed through just about every corporate firewall in existence, as long as your remote sshd is listening on port 443 |
| 05:02.10 | peteru | together with port forwarding, the firewall might as well not be there if you have control of both ends. |
| 05:02.52 | peteru | of course, doing this requires you to be responsible and security conscientious, so don't expect a recipe if you can't figure it out :-) |
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| 05:03.40 | rwhitby-web | Gaijin42: nope, couldn't find it. perhaps someone on the mailing list can help. I've never installed the ftp server from inetutils (I use openssh) |
| 05:04.06 | rwhitby-web | nudot: ping |
| 05:04.27 | rwhitby-web | ka6sox: the stats page needs the icons fixed. then we should link it to the wiki |
| 05:04.36 | rwhitby-web | http://stats.websb.net/ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/stats.html |
| 05:05.51 | Gaijin42 | when I install the packages, I get a bunch of chown messages about unable to find directory. Is that normal? |
| 05:11.32 | Gaijin42 | peteru : when I run putty, it says my ssh port is 22, and it let me conect, do I need to reconfigure dropbear to listen on 443? |
| 05:11.35 | rwhitby-web | no |
| 05:11.45 | Gaijin42 | no to which? |
| 05:11.58 | rwhitby-web | is that normal |
| 05:12.00 | peteru | no, normal ssh is 22 |
| 05:12.17 | peteru | don't change it unless you are a netowrking expert. |
| 05:12.31 | Gaijin42 | rwhitby-web |
| 05:12.59 | rwhitby-web | yes? |
| 05:13.06 | Gaijin42 | hit enter by mistake : ) |
| 05:13.32 | Gaijin42 | rwhitby-web : well, I got lots of chown messages both on inetutil and dropbear |
| 05:13.56 | rwhitby-web | dropbear should work - I've installed that myself many times |
| 05:14.12 | Gaijin42 | peteru : you said above that you could get through any firewall as long as the listeing is on 443. Would that not conflict with the port 22 being standard thatyou just said? |
| 05:14.22 | Gaijin42 | rwhitby-web : well, it apparently works, but I got the chown messages. |
| 05:14.25 | rwhitby-web | have you broken the root entry in the passwd file? |
| 05:14.29 | Gaijin42 | no |
| 05:14.34 | rwhitby-web | what's the message? |
| 05:14.58 | Gaijin42 | chown: /opt/bin/rcp: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.58 | Gaijin42 | chown: /opt/bin/rsh: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.58 | Gaijin42 | chown: /opt/bin/rlogin: No such file or directo |
| 05:14.58 | Gaijin42 | chown: /opt/bin/ping: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.58 | Gaijin42 | chmod: /opt/bin/rcp: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.59 | Gaijin42 | chmod: /opt/bin/rsh: No such file or directory |
| 05:15.01 | Gaijin42 | chmod: /opt/bin/rlogin: No such file or directo |
| 05:15.03 | Gaijin42 | chmod: /opt/bin/ping: No such file or directory |
| 05:15.31 | Gaijin42 | but it seems to be working fine. |
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| 05:23.02 | Gaijin42 | ok, I am going to bed.Thanks for all the help! |
| 05:24.24 | chacal | hey all. this pertains more to the nslu generally than it does to linux on the nslu2, but it's all part of my quest to get unslung working. anyway, at some point i managed to 'restore defaults' and i guess it wasn't done restoring defaults before it was powered down..so it seems to load up ok, but appears bricked. |
| 05:24.59 | chacal | i'm going through the instructions for unbricking online, but realize now that these instructions "don't overwrite the sysconfig part of the flash" |
| 05:25.04 | chacal | which I think is what I hosed. |
| 05:27.11 | chacal | is there any way to restore defaults to that section of the flash? |
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| 05:46.39 | Christopher | I got freeradius to compile, now I just need to get some bugs out |
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