| 00:01.24 | rwhitby-web | tmp/staging/armeb-linux/shlibs is where the info is stored - I suspect we might just need to rearrange some dependencies to get the ramdisk built first so everything else can see that it provides the libc and libm shared libs. |
| 00:02.09 | [g2] | I'm looking for the wget include is that inherited ? |
| 00:04.11 | [g2] | bbiab 30m |
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| 00:33.39 | [g2] | kergoth around ? |
| 01:09.35 | rwhitby-web | back much later |
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| 01:10.43 | [g2] | rwhitby-web FYI there's some auto* madness happening |
| 01:11.39 | [g2] | When I over-rode the --exclude option it disappeared from the command but I still get the same error which I don't get running the command from the cmd line |
| 01:26.29 | [g2] | nite all |
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| 06:11.00 | ka6sox | hi dyoung |
| 06:15.27 | ka6sox | nite |
| 06:15.46 | VirtualCtor | Has anybody connected anything to the internal USB port? |
| 06:37.33 | dyoung | hi. |
| 06:37.47 | dyoung | I'm almost JTAG enabled. |
| 06:38.30 | VirtualCtor | how's that going? |
| 06:39.06 | dyoung | as far as I know, ka6sox and Tiersten are the only ones JTAG enabled so far. |
| 06:40.50 | VirtualCtor | yeah, I think so, though, I thought someone else was looking into it. can't remember who, though. |
| 06:41.20 | VirtualCtor | What are you using for the other end? |
| 06:42.06 | dyoung | I dunno yet. Do you know of a decent freeware Windows JTAG program? |
| 06:42.25 | dyoung | Other than that, I was probably just going to use the WinCE JTAG under linux. |
| 06:44.51 | VirtualCtor | No, I don't know of any freeware one actually. |
| 06:47.43 | VirtualCtor | Sourceforge turns up this: http://jtagtools.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:47.50 | VirtualCtor | I dunno if that helps. |
| 07:02.33 | VirtualCtor | also, the openwince jtag tools work under cygwin |
| 07:07.28 | dyoung | Thanks for th einfo. I was trying to avoid installing cygwin. |
| 07:07.35 | dyoung | Going to solder now, brb. |
| 07:08.17 | VirtualCtor | You're welcome. I have one more thing for you: http://www.nahitech.com/jtag-en/ |
| 07:23.22 | dyoung | Okay, I didnt blow it up. |
| 07:23.26 | dyoung | it still turns on. |
| 07:23.35 | dyoung | now I gotta find me some JTAG software. |
| 07:23.44 | dyoung | The sourceforge one looks promising. |
| 07:24.00 | VirtualCtor | It's got a nice page anyway. |
| 07:24.37 | VirtualCtor | The japanese one also looks pretty sweet, but I'm not sure if it will program the NSLU2 processor |
| 07:24.41 | dyoung | Yeah, that counts for something. I'm not sure what; but something. |
| 07:24.50 | dyoung | The japanese one looks sorta specific to the ARM7. |
| 07:25.13 | VirtualCtor | Yeah, that's what I thought. |
| 07:25.31 | VirtualCtor | So your port is hooked up now? |
| 07:25.46 | VirtualCtor | er, soldered on. |
| 07:26.13 | dyoung | Yes, I heed to take a picture, its really quite nice. |
| 07:26.29 | dyoung | I'm glueing the header on top the ethernet port once I know it works. |
| 07:26.58 | VirtualCtor | Cool, that'll be nice. Made a holw in the case, eh? |
| 07:27.03 | VirtualCtor | er, hole. |
| 07:27.47 | dyoung | Ai soos! |
| 07:27.56 | dyoung | jtagtools are source only! |
| 07:28.17 | VirtualCtor | Oh, that's an issue? |
| 07:29.18 | VirtualCtor | Oh, jeez, not even a makefile! |
| 07:29.58 | VirtualCtor | or a vc++ build file |
| 07:29.59 | dyoung | Its not that much of an issue, but I'm lookin for some instant gratification here. ;-) |
| 07:30.20 | dyoung | Basically i want to know if I can glue it together. Its quite precarious now. |
| 07:31.28 | VirtualCtor | Ah, it looks like "instant" is going to be Linux with wince |
| 07:32.13 | dyoung | or maybe http://www.universalscan.com/ |
| 07:33.48 | VirtualCtor | Oh, good deal. I didn't know there was a free download. |
| 07:36.34 | dyoung | They make you register for the trial. Waiting for my license key |
| 07:37.43 | VirtualCtor | Ew, registration is the su><0rs |
| 07:40.30 | dyoung | Maybe a human needs to read it. |
| 07:40.31 | VirtualCtor | There's some neat stuff on that page, though. Application notes and such. |
| 07:40.39 | dyoung | I didnt get my license key yet. |
| 07:45.36 | VirtualCtor | Where does it make you register? |
| 07:48.18 | dyoung | online, then it pops up your mailer. |
| 07:48.35 | dyoung | I'm compiling the wince jtag tools now. |
| 07:48.59 | VirtualCtor | Oh, because I managed to download it without registration |
| 07:49.17 | dyoung | It makes you register it when you start it the first time |
| 07:50.10 | VirtualCtor | Oh, got it. |
| 07:50.48 | VirtualCtor | Nice of them to NOT include that information in the manual. |
| 08:00.23 | dyoung | Hmm, unable to initialze cable. |
| 08:05.50 | VirtualCtor | Nice. /dev issue? |
| 08:08.55 | dyoung | not sure. I wonder if I need pullups. |
| 08:10.44 | VirtualCtor | on TCK and TDO? |
| 08:11.03 | VirtualCtor | not EE, that's just what I've heard |
| 08:15.36 | dyoung | Just looked at the schematic, TDO is pulled up. |
| 08:39.08 | dyoung | Works. |
| 08:39.16 | dyoung | Just not on this one computer. |
| 08:41.14 | VirtualCtor | Doh! |
| 08:41.48 | VirtualCtor | Just compiled openwince jtag under cygwin, and it runs. |
| 08:42.21 | VirtualCtor | I can't connect to anything, though. |
| 08:42.31 | VirtualCtor | But it does compile and run. |
| 08:43.27 | dyoung | Yay! I'm JTAG Enabled! |
| 08:43.41 | dyoung | Just need to work out why it dont work on the other machine. |
| 08:43.51 | VirtualCtor | Oh cool! |
| 08:44.16 | dyoung | It idents and displays properly. |
| 08:44.27 | dyoung | I should try sucking the flash. |
| 08:44.30 | dyoung | or redboot. |
| 08:46.03 | VirtualCtor | That's probably a good idea before you really begin to break stuff |
| 08:49.09 | dyoung | Oh, duh. |
| 08:49.15 | dyoung | Someone lart me please. |
| 08:49.52 | VirtualCtor | Wha happen? |
| 08:50.57 | dyoung | Works as root. |
| 08:51.08 | dyoung | permissions funny somewhere. |
| 08:51.21 | VirtualCtor | Ah, of course. /dev issue. |
| 08:51.37 | dyoung | (which is what you said an hour ago) |
| 08:52.19 | VirtualCtor | Oh, uh, yeah. lol. |
| 08:53.38 | rwhitby | re |
| 08:53.50 | VirtualCtor | hey |
| 08:54.11 | dyoung | re |
| 08:54.28 | rwhitby | jtag enabled. hey? |
| 08:54.34 | dyoung | rwhitby, as you probably guessed, we received our JTAG cables today. |
| 08:54.44 | dyoung | so I'll send 'um to you tommrow. |
| 08:54.48 | dyoung | How many did you want? |
| 08:55.03 | rwhitby | just one thanks |
| 08:55.11 | dyoung | Okay. |
| 08:55.57 | rwhitby | I only want it for a last resort, or to blow the uber boot loader. I'm not going to be sucked into the redboot replacement development vortex too :-) |
| 08:56.07 | dyoung | heh. |
| 08:56.36 | dyoung | I'll photo document what I did, before I slather glue everywhere. |
| 08:59.25 | VirtualCtor | Good luck with the JTAG. I have to bust a move. Later, everyone. |
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| 09:00.58 | dyoung | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.01 | dyoung | oh drat, he left |
| 09:03.47 | Tiersten | Morning |
| 09:07.33 | dyoung | morning |
| 09:08.04 | Tiersten | Cool that you've got JTAG working |
| 09:12.51 | dyoung | Yeah; I'm just gluing it all back together now. |
| 09:14.18 | Tiersten | Did you wire up tRSTN? |
| 09:33.29 | dyoung | No, because this Xilinx cable doesnt have it; and I *think* I read somewhere it was optional. |
| 09:35.36 | Tiersten | Yeah. It's an optional part of the standard. I wasn't sure if the Xilinx III cables had tRSTN |
| 09:39.24 | dyoung | Whats the easiest way to read the flash part? |
| 09:39.40 | Tiersten | What util you using? |
| 09:39.52 | dyoung | the jtag 0.5.1 from the openwince |
| 09:40.08 | Tiersten | readmem will do it |
| 09:40.31 | Tiersten | readmem 0x50000000 1024 bitofredboot |
| 09:40.33 | Tiersten | Like that |
| 09:41.06 | dyoung | So heres where it really helps to have a memory map. ;-) |
| 09:41.17 | Tiersten | Just remember that if you access the flash then you'll lock up the NSLU2 because you're overriding it's pins |
| 09:41.26 | Tiersten | Unmount the thing if you're using it basically |
| 09:41.50 | dyoung | Yes, I've been interrupting it before boot. |
| 09:42.07 | Tiersten | You can do it when it's booted as well if you want |
| 09:43.05 | dyoung | just remember to sync;sync;umount (everything) first. |
| 09:43.20 | Tiersten | yeah |
| 09:44.15 | Tiersten | If you want to read the value of a pin then do |
| 09:44.19 | Tiersten | instruction SAMPLE/PRELOAD |
| 09:44.21 | Tiersten | shift ir |
| 09:44.23 | Tiersten | shift dr |
| 09:44.29 | Tiersten | then get signal <blah> |
| 09:46.25 | dyoung | Does about 750 b/s reading |
| 09:46.36 | Tiersten | Reading is faster |
| 09:46.52 | dyoung | This would be so much easier with a graphical interface. |
| 09:50.45 | Tiersten | heh yeah but this is free :) |
| 09:50.51 | Tiersten | also it's scriptable which is good |
| 09:51.15 | Tiersten | I get about 850 to 900 Bps when reading. It drops to around 100Bps when writing |
| 09:51.28 | dyoung | My read of redboot seems questionable. |
| 09:51.34 | Tiersten | It's byteswapped |
| 09:52.13 | dyoung | its all 0500 |
| 09:52.16 | Tiersten | oh |
| 09:52.18 | dyoung | over and over.... |
| 09:52.19 | Tiersten | something is wrong then |
| 09:52.24 | Tiersten | What did you type in? |
| 09:52.26 | dyoung | Lets try that again |
| 09:52.40 | dyoung | readmem 0x5000000 262144 redboot |
| 09:52.59 | Tiersten | 0x5000000? |
| 09:53.03 | Tiersten | You're missing a 0 |
| 09:53.34 | dyoung | Hah! |
| 09:53.40 | dyoung | thanks. |
| 09:55.04 | Tiersten | hex works for the length as well BTW |
| 09:55.07 | Tiersten | 0x40000 |
| 09:56.15 | dyoung | I knew the decimal nubmer off the top of my head. |
| 09:56.56 | Tiersten | :) |
| 09:57.51 | dyoung | so if I "accidentally" blow away redboot, I can take this redboot file and just put it back right? |
| 09:58.00 | Tiersten | Yeah |
| 09:58.17 | Tiersten | The redboot is in the linksys firmware upgrade as well apparently |
| 09:58.35 | dyoung | using the flashmem command. |
| 09:58.36 | dyoung | Oh? |
| 09:58.39 | dyoung | Nice. |
| 09:58.41 | Tiersten | Yeah and yeah |
| 09:59.34 | dyoung | Hmm, I'm almost feeling brave/foolish enough to try your redboot now. |
| 10:00.50 | dyoung | Whats up with that 128k of 0's at the beginning? |
| 10:00.53 | Tiersten | ?! |
| 10:01.01 | Tiersten | There isn't 128k of 0's.... |
| 10:01.33 | dyoung | from 0x100 to 0x20000 od claims its 0. |
| 10:02.06 | Tiersten | ohh |
| 10:02.10 | Tiersten | yeah. there is that bit :) |
| 10:02.16 | Tiersten | Thought you meant it started with 0's |
| 10:02.39 | dyoung | That would be ... Unusual. |
| 10:02.58 | dyoung | so doesnt that mean we can cram a partition table at the front? |
| 10:03.00 | Tiersten | Don't know why there is that chunk. It appears on some of the ones I compile as well |
| 10:03.02 | Tiersten | No |
| 10:03.21 | dyoung | Is redboot really > 128k ? |
| 10:03.24 | Tiersten | Yes |
| 10:03.28 | dyoung | drat |
| 10:03.54 | Tiersten | The ones that get compiled at > 128K anyway |
| 10:04.11 | Tiersten | There is a setting to say what's the size of the block you're going to occupy which I guess may affect the padding |
| 10:06.24 | dyoung | The redboot extracted from the linksys firmware is byteswapped compared to the redboot I just extracted. |
| 10:06.53 | dyoung | so which would be the proper one to stuff back into the slug? |
| 10:07.24 | Tiersten | The one you read off would be best |
| 10:07.36 | Tiersten | rwhitby told me about the one in the linksys firmware. I never tried it myself |
| 10:08.07 | dyoung | Must be the way slugtool extracts it. |
| 10:08.34 | dyoung | I looked at the first 20 or 30 lines, they look the same except for that little byteswapping issue. |
| 10:09.58 | Tiersten | It's probably endian differences between the PC and whatever mode the ARM is running in |
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| 10:17.13 | dyoung | Thanks for your advice! I'll eventually grok JTAG. |
| 10:17.52 | Tiersten | np. It's a last resort thing anyway a I've switched over to making RAM builds of RedBoot |
| 10:30.52 | dyoung | It even goes back together. |
| 10:31.13 | Tiersten | Where did you put the connector? |
| 10:31.55 | dyoung | I glued it to the top of the network jack |
| 10:32.09 | Tiersten | You filed a bit of the plastic casing? |
| 10:32.15 | dyoung | "a bit" |
| 10:32.48 | dyoung | like 4 or 5 mm. |
| 10:32.49 | Tiersten | Uh huh... The dremel school of case modding? ;) |
| 10:33.04 | dyoung | I did it my hand to get a perfect fit. |
| 10:33.27 | dyoung | I shoulda used the dremel. I sneezed and there was a ratbite. |
| 10:33.27 | Tiersten | I've not externally mounted the JTAG connector for mine |
| 10:35.59 | dyoung | ka6sox, do you want the blister packaging for these RS cables? If not, I'm gonna throw 'em out and just send you the cables. It'll be cheaper. |
| 10:36.12 | dyoung | I hope he reads the logs. |
| 10:37.42 | Tiersten | heh |
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| 11:07.33 | [g2] | dyoung, congrats on the JTAG! |
| 11:07.57 | dyoung | Morning! |
| 11:08.03 | dyoung | I have lots of pics. |
| 11:08.07 | [g2] | you use the $19 JTAG connector right! |
| 11:08.15 | [g2] | PICs Cool! |
| 11:08.24 | dyoung | Yeah, I used your $19 Jtag cable. |
| 11:08.43 | dyoung | It works. |
| 11:08.58 | [g2] | awesome! |
| 11:09.06 | dyoung | s/\./ just fine./ |
| 11:09.26 | rwhitby | . |
| 11:10.25 | rwhitby | [g2]: did you get any joy on the wget front/ |
| 11:10.25 | [g2] | rwhitby, is a cool old man! |
| 11:10.52 | [g2] | no joy. I think it's an auto* thing. |
| 11:11.03 | rwhitby | anyway, I'm replacing it with busybox-unslung. |
| 11:11.06 | dyoung | I accomplished like nothing over the past week for SlugDev. Just JTAG and catching up with you guys. |
| 11:11.14 | [g2] | I did notice that oe is building all its own tools the native- stuff |
| 11:12.19 | [g2] | It's local to the oe toolchain imho. iirc automake is 1.84 and I'm running like 1.5 on my system |
| 11:13.50 | [g2] | make that local to the toolchain that oe builds for it's native- operation |
| 11:31.01 | dyoung | Das U-Boot. |
| 11:31.06 | Tiersten | ? |
| 11:42.00 | dyoung | http://sourceforge.net/projects/u-boot/ |
| 11:42.33 | dyoung | Not that I have anything specific against redboot. |
| 11:42.36 | Tiersten | Oh. U-Boot |
| 11:42.40 | Tiersten | [g2] has already pointed it out |
| 11:42.51 | dyoung | I'm just a diddler, so I'm diddling with it. |
| 11:43.01 | Tiersten | No NPE support though |
| 11:43.09 | Tiersten | So no ethernet |
| 11:53.56 | [g2] | re |
| 11:54.04 | rwhitby | . |
| 11:54.10 | [g2] | re? |
| 11:54.18 | rwhitby | re! |
| 11:54.25 | [g2] | :-) |
| 11:54.34 | rwhitby | .. |
| 11:54.38 | Tiersten | re. |
| 11:55.12 | [g2] | it's late for dyoung |
| 11:57.15 | [g2] | rwhitby, so you temporarily punted on the wget ? |
| 11:57.30 | Tiersten | What's the problem with wget? |
| 11:57.31 | rwhitby | yeah, but I'm paying for it now |
| 11:57.58 | [g2] | compile time or a feature in wget we need ? |
| 11:58.44 | rwhitby | trying to get the busybox package to just emit wget and sed for busybox-unslung. Problem is that /bin/busybox installs over the top of stock busybox, which would kill compatibility. |
| 11:59.15 | [g2] | rwhitby, I've never used it but there's a /opt option |
| 11:59.37 | Tiersten | Oh. Thought you were using the full blown wget |
| 11:59.59 | Tiersten | Why would installing over it kill compatibility? Don't actually know, just curious |
| 12:00.00 | [g2] | Tiersten, we were but there a temporary oe issue with the configure |
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| 12:00.29 | Tiersten | The M4 macro issue from yesterday? |
| 12:00.32 | [g2] | Tiersten, halt has some special sauce |
| 12:00.35 | Tiersten | Well. Earlier for you lot |
| 12:00.37 | [g2] | yes |
| 12:00.54 | Tiersten | ah. the power off stuff |
| 12:01.11 | rwhitby | and who knows what other special sauce might be in there too. |
| 12:01.20 | rwhitby | we can't afford to overwrite anything for unslung |
| 12:01.39 | [g2] | Tiersten, if you string busybox, oddly there a SetLed poweroff that magically got in there *somehow* ? |
| 12:07.58 | rwhitby | So much of many of the packages in oe make assumptions based on the history of oe. That's to be expected, and it's not a complaint, it's just a fact of life. |
| 12:12.49 | dyoung | "Special Issue" |
| 12:13.07 | [g2] | ? |
| 12:13.24 | dyoung | Sed_Led poweroff. |
| 12:13.28 | dyoung | That still irks the hell outta me. |
| 12:13.51 | [g2] | yes me too |