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| 17:03.36 | tlarsen | I am feeling better. I am currently wading through all of the recent commits and plan to spend today looking at Allen's Question patches. |
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| 18:08.34 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: apologies for breaking the build, a patch is in the making :) |
| 18:19.02 | durin42 | SRabbelier: you should introduce more tests, buildbot never went red |
| 18:19.19 | SRabbelier | durin42: if they would run in the first place |
| 18:19.29 | durin42 | http://melange.durin42.com/waterfall |
| 18:19.31 | tpb | Title: BuildBot: Melange (at melange.durin42.com) |
| 18:20.02 | SRabbelier | how do I run the tests then |
| 18:20.06 | SRabbelier | maybe I'm doing somethign wrong |
| 18:20.08 | durin42 | python tests/run.py |
| 18:20.12 | SRabbelier | right |
| 18:20.14 | SRabbelier | gives me thsi error |
| 18:20.16 | durin42 | from wcroot |
| 18:20.20 | durin42 | easy_install -U nose |
| 18:20.41 | SRabbelier | I have nose installed |
| 18:20.47 | durin42 | what version? |
| 18:21.04 | SRabbelier | durin42: from nose.plugins import manager |
| 18:21.08 | SRabbelier | durin42: that's where it dies |
| 18:21.13 | SRabbelier | durin42: ImportError: cannot import name manager |
| 18:21.13 | durin42 | what version of nose. |
| 18:21.26 | SRabbelier | how do I check :) |
| 18:21.33 | durin42 | nosetests --version |
| 18:22.29 | durin42 | oh yay, I get the relative import problem |
| 18:22.41 | SRabbelier | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.41 | SRabbelier | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.41 | SRabbelier | nosetests version 0.9.2 |
| 18:22.46 | SRabbelier | grats to you, what is the problem durin42? |
| 18:22.54 | durin42 | SRabbelier: your nose is really old |
| 18:23.03 | durin42 | SRabbelier: update your nose to 0.10 or later |
| 18:23.12 | SRabbelier | my nose is not that old :( |
| 18:23.17 | durin42 | (and wow those sentences look funny out of context) |
| 18:23.18 | SRabbelier | around 20 years! |
| 18:23.18 | Lennie | only 20 years :P? |
| 18:23.23 | Lennie | ello folks :) |
| 18:23.29 | durin42 | SRabbelier: easy_install -U nose and you'll be happier, I'm off to lunch |
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| 19:44.52 | Lennie | user profile now works, now other stuff is borked ^^ |
| 19:44.59 | Lennie | but that's my fault :P |
| 19:45.09 | Lennie | atleast partially ^^ |
| 19:45.36 | SRabbelier | well, not your fault, you are pointing out the bugs ;) |
| 19:45.49 | Lennie | and you are fixing them <3 ^^ |
| 19:46.21 | SRabbelier | heh, they were my bugs in the first place |
| 19:46.49 | Lennie | :) |
| 19:46.59 | durin42 | Testing people! Write tests for your new features! |
| 19:47.04 | Lennie | atleast you are superfast in fixing it :P |
| 19:47.10 | SRabbelier | durin42: I know I know |
| 19:47.13 | SRabbelier | durin42: some day soon ;) |
| 19:47.23 | SRabbelier | durin42: I got nose installed propertly now at least |
| 19:47.24 | Lennie | Any tutorial on writing tests out there durin42? |
| 19:47.41 | durin42 | Lennie: sadly no, but if you look in the tests dir there are some simple tests that ought to get you started |
| 19:47.46 | Lennie | k |
| 19:48.01 | SRabbelier | puts Lennie on a 'tester' hat and nods sagely |
| 19:48.03 | Lennie | since I'm hopefully gonna write more stuff for melange I need to make tests at some point :) |
| 19:48.28 | durin42 | If you send in tests, I'll review them |
| 19:48.31 | Lennie | points out he can code too to SRabbelier ^^ |
| 19:49.04 | SRabbelier | Lennie: you better |
| 19:49.26 | Lennie | haha, I'm sure you'll keep me busy if not the other way around :) |
| 19:49.40 | Lennie | all my questions about git, you must get tired someday :D |
| 19:49.57 | SRabbelier | hehe, nah, I hang out in #git too often for that, answering newbie questiosn |
| 19:50.04 | durin42 | Lennie: you could just use hg instead, it's much more straightforward |
| 19:50.28 | Lennie | durin42: hg? |
| 19:50.33 | tlarsen | durin42: I actually got hgsubversion working in Cygwin. |
| 19:50.33 | SRabbelier | durin42: and get support from whom? :P |
| 19:50.37 | durin42 | Lennie: Mercurial |
| 19:50.43 | durin42 | SRabbelier: from me? |
| 19:50.45 | durin42 | tlarsen: cool |
| 19:50.57 | SRabbelier | durin42: you don't even live in the same timezone! |
| 19:51.03 | durin42 | SRabbelier: email rocks! |
| 19:51.07 | SRabbelier | heh |
| 19:51.16 | tlarsen | durin42: I am going to keep my Cygwin environment working, to make sure I don't break things for Windoze developers. |
| 19:51.23 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: +1 on that |
| 19:51.34 | durin42 | tlarsen: +1 |
| 19:51.36 | tlarsen | durin42: I won't use it primarily, though. It is too slow. |
| 19:51.56 | durin42 | tlarsen: I'd believe it. cygwin is a terrible idea from a performance PoV. |
| 19:52.06 | tlarsen | durin42: I set up Synergy on my 4-core box and the Google laptop, and Ubuntu in a VM runs faster on the 4-core box than Cygwin on either. |
| 19:52.37 | durin42 | tlarsen: Very nice! Ubuntu and not Fedora? |
| 19:52.50 | tlarsen | durin42: Both of my Ubuntu VMs are upgrading to 8.10 right now. |
| 19:53.03 | tlarsen | durin42: Yeah, I got tired of random stuff in Fedora being bit-rotted. |
| 19:53.25 | durin42 | tlarsen: Ah. I think you'll find it's just different stuff in Ubuntu has bitrot. |
| 19:53.27 | tlarsen | durin42: I am planning to set up netstations in the main house using Ubuntu and auto-updates. |
| 19:53.41 | tlarsen | durin42: Yeah, like the version of Eclipse in Ubuntu is ancient. |
| 19:53.44 | durin42 | tlarsen: Sounds pretty awesome. |
| 19:53.55 | tlarsen | durin42: Anyway, the stateless Linux stuff just got ignored by Fedora. |
| 19:54.07 | SRabbelier | tlarsen: stateless Linux? |
| 19:54.17 | durin42 | SRabbelier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StatelessLinux |
| 19:54.20 | tpb | Title: StatelessLinux - FedoraProject (at fedoraproject.org) |
| 19:54.22 | tlarsen | durin42: There is much more documentation on setting up "identical" boxes that have NFS /home and net login and auto updates in Ubuntu than in Fedora. |
| 19:54.46 | tlarsen | durin42: It is very easy to have Ubuntu boxes simply wipe themselves every night, for example. |
| 19:54.49 | SRabbelier | ah, it's on their wiki, but not in their distro? |
| 19:55.04 | tlarsen | durin42: There are a lot of different scenarios that are possible with Ubuntu and their enterprise installter stuff now. |
| 19:55.07 | durin42 | tlarsen: Cool, I'll remember that for the day I actually set up multiple machines. I need to try out 8.10 to see if it has support for my DTV tuner. |
| 19:55.44 | durin42 | tlarsen: Was considering rebuilding the media center machine tomorrow night to keep me from watching election coverage. |
| 20:20.41 | tlarsen | durin42: Yeah, I was thinking about ignoring the election coverage also. |
| 20:20.47 | tlarsen | durin42: I think this is what is going to happen: http://www.verticalblu.com/Latest/ImVotingDemocrat.html |
| 20:20.50 | tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2Qhk> (at www.verticalblu.com) |
| 20:22.33 | durin42 | tlarsen: hm, I'll have to watch that later |
| 20:22.40 | durin42 | tlarsen: or do I not want to? |
| 20:24.56 | tlarsen | durin42: The video is quite amuzing. |
| 20:24.59 | tlarsen | Err, amusing. |
| 20:25.19 | tlarsen | In a sort of "sad, but true" sort of way. |
| 20:25.26 | durin42 | fixes an hgsubversion bug so he can commit at work. |
| 20:25.53 | durin42 | tlarsen: alrighty, will watch when I get home |
| 20:25.58 | Lennie | tlarsen: hehe nice movie :) |
| 20:26.02 | durin42 | I'm going to go off irc and GSD for a while. |
| 20:26.19 | Lennie | tlarsen: I think the same goes for McCain, I dont think both are completly the right persons |
| 20:26.33 | Lennie | but it's gotta be one of the two :) |
| 20:26.40 | tlarsen | Lennie: Yeah, I don't care who people vote for, as long as they are making an informed decision. |
| 20:26.49 | tlarsen | Lennie: I just don't think the voters are informed. |
| 20:26.51 | durin42 | +1 |
| 20:27.04 | durin42 | anywho, I'm out for now, see you guys later |
| 20:27.27 | Lennie | tlarsen: I think that if money and media exposure is the way to win an election, then there is something wrong with politics |
| 20:27.48 | Lennie | tlarsen: Those people have the responsibility to lead a country :S |
| 20:28.58 | Lennie | not to be the most 'popular' person :0 |
| 20:29.40 | Lennie | you are right about information being important, it's not a small decision. The coming years will probably be tough :S |
| 20:33.51 | tlarsen | Lennie: yes, despite not caring for McCain much either, I just think that Obama is going to be a puppet of Pelosi and Reid. |
| 20:34.40 | Lennie | tlarsen: Due to his inexperience and therefore his fear of doing the wrong thing? |
| 20:35.06 | tlarsen | Lennie: Yes, so we won't end up with an independent Executive branch, basically. |
| 20:37.55 | Lennie | tlarsen: okay, took me a while to understand that since I'm dutch :D |
| 20:38.40 | Lennie | tlarsen: The media here have portaited Obama as the best canditate since he entered the election, not really an objective view |
| 20:38.52 | SRabbelier | oh yeah, totally true |
| 20:38.54 | Lennie | tlarsen: But that's media :S |
| 21:16.53 | Lennie | I'm gonna watch a movie. Patch to make all logic\models compliant with base.Logic will be done tomorrow, if the bugs get fixed only settings page is bugged now ^^ |
| 21:16.59 | Lennie | nn SRabbelier ^^ |
| 21:17.12 | SRabbelier | g'night Lennie |