IRC log for #melange on 20081031

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04:37.53Sidneihopes lh is not awake
04:38.33lhSidnei: i am awake and i am working
04:38.38lhand in about 10 minutes
04:38.50lhi am going back to the wedding rehearsal dinner i am currently ignoring
04:38.57lhwants android irc client, then cloning machine
04:39.01Sidneilh: oh dear
04:39.28Sidneiit can't be that bad to get an android irc client
04:39.43Sidneii would write one in exchange for someone getting android running on my nokia n810
04:39.50Sidneithat would be fair, no?
04:42.12lhSidnei: i think that would be totally fair
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16:30.58James--CrookSidnei: Are you developing on windows too?
16:31.09SidneiJames--Crook: yes i am
16:31.27James--CrookAre you using cygwin?
16:31.41SidneiJames--Crook: no, why should i? :)
16:32.00SidneiJames--Crook: well, i actually am using some cygwin stuff, like wget and tar
16:32.21James--CrookTo run ./make_release.sh
16:32.33James--Crook(didn't work for me)
16:32.53James--CrookGot file not found *.py[co]
16:33.00SidneiJames--Crook: ah, haven't got that far
16:33.06Sidneilet me take a look
16:33.14James--CrookZip error nothing to do (../release/django.zip)
16:33.43James--CrookSo the getting started guide IS out of order.
16:34.00James--Crook'cos I just went on to the next step.
16:34.24James--Crook(also FIND: Parameter format not correct)
16:34.35SidneiJames--Crook: i know what's going on
16:34.49SidneiJames--Crook: windows has a 'find' command too, which has different arguments
16:35.03SidneiJames--Crook: that's what's being called. you need to get cygwin before that one into your PATH
16:35.30SidneiJames--Crook: or hardcode the path to find
16:35.34James--CrookOK..  Thanks!  I'll add that to the GettingStarted guide.
16:35.51Sidneiie, change make_release.sh to call /usr/bin/find or whatever is the path
16:35.53James--CrookDid you find anything else in your getting started that needs to go on that page?
16:36.17Sidneican't think of anything no
16:36.20James--Crook(will just change my path to put cygwin earlier.  Don't have any real windows scripts)
16:36.57James--Crook...  also I've seen that tiny_mce is supposed to be being used by the app...  but I don't see any pages that use it.
16:37.13Sidneiindeed, i couldn't spot anything either
16:37.51James--CrookAnd there's supposed to be a side-by-side partial-path, linkname thing that Dmitri did, but I don't see that either.
16:38.21James--CrookE.g. in http://localhost:8080/site/settings/edit it's one above the other.
16:39.38James--CrookHmm...  I'll ask on e-mail list.  Thanks for your help.
16:40.42Sidneinp!
16:45.56tlarsenJames--Crook: Dmitri did it in Firebug, as a proof of concept, but there is no way to implement his idea with form.as_table.
17:09.47durin42tlarsen: dunno if you saw my other messages - I'll be back around an hour from now, it's lunchtime
17:13.46James--Crooktlarsen: Hmm.  Thanks.  Will post about this on e-mail.  There may be a not-that-inelegant way.
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17:40.27SRabbelierHey y'all
17:42.15SRabbelierJames--Crook:, Sidnei: we are using tiny_mce in the Document editor, aren'tw e?
17:42.35James--CrookSRabbelier: hiya.  Good to meet you at the summit Sverre.  (and Todd, Pawel, Dmitri too)
17:42.45SRabbelierJames--Crook: indeed!
17:42.57SidneiSRabbelier: checking
17:43.01James--CrookSRabbelier: Are we assuming that users of Melange will have Javascript enabled?
17:43.24SRabbelierJames--Crook: they better
17:43.33James--Crook'cos I think we should state explicitly on the wiki what our assumptions are.
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17:44.38Sidneii agree, we should make statements about popup blocking too
17:44.41James--CrookSRabbelier: Any particular place where it is vital?
17:45.11James--CrookSidnei: What statement?
17:45.15SRabbelieratm we use it for the side-menu clicky-thingy functionality
17:45.24SRabbelierand the list view, to select how many elements are displayed
17:45.28SRabbelierwe don't have any pop-ups
17:45.34SRabbelierdon't think we'll use any either
17:45.44James--CrookSRabbelier: Recent addition... and may work without (just degrades to no open/close)??
17:45.46Sidneithat we shouldn't use popups then :)
17:46.29SRabbelierJames--Crook: probably, but the list will then always only show 10 items
17:46.58James--Crook..can be detected I think and dealt with... but it's some work...
17:47.14James--Crookeasier and better to say 'Javascript Required'
17:50.07SRabbelierJames--Crook: +`svn` working copy.  If you're one of the deluded souls using Windows,
17:50.10SRabbelierJames--Crook: no windows bashing please
17:50.16SRabbelierI hate it too, but it's unprofessional
17:50.54SRabbelierJames--Crook: aside from that, awesome update to GettingStarted :)
17:52.58James--Crook?? Are you saying I shouldn't say 'deluded' on the getting started page?  I don't think it will offend even windows developers...  (I am one)
17:53.39SRabbelierJames--Crook: yes, that's what I'm saying
17:53.59SRabbelierand it's not about being offended :P
17:54.00James--CrookOK.  Will can  'one-of-the-deluded-souls'
17:54.07SRabbelierit just doesn't look professional
17:54.12James--Crooks/can/cut/
17:54.20SRabbelierthat would be good
17:54.28SRabbelieribot: !botsnack
17:54.28ibotSRabbelier: thanks
17:55.58James--Crookdone.
17:56.29SRabbelierJames--Crook: thank you
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19:01.16SRabbeliertlarsen: are you still ill?
19:01.23tlarsenSRabbelier: yes.
19:01.33SRabbeliertlarsen: :( has it gotten better yet?
19:01.39tlarsenSRabbelier: every time I am feeling a little better, I do too much, and then I start coughing up junk.
19:01.51SRabbeliertlarsen: heh, take a day or two off ;)
19:02.43durin42SRabbelier: if I comprehend tlarsen's personality, he's not good at resting to get healthy
19:03.07tlarsendurin42: Heh.
19:03.18tlarsendurin42: Exactly.  I *hate* down time.
19:03.33SRabbeliertlarsen: take some anyway, otherwise you'll keep being only 1/4th productive
19:04.01tlarsenSRabbelier: Yeah, that is what this weekend is for.  I only have to put a roof on the well house.  I'm not planning on doing anything else.  :)
19:04.41durin42tlarsen: easy to spot because in college my wife would have to pull me aside and tell me to go ask profs for an excused absence from class
19:04.52SRabbelierheh
19:04.53durin42(before she was my wife, of course)
19:05.50SRabbelierWhat is wrong with this line: "Fragment 30/25"
19:05.53SRabbelierrolleye
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21:35.05SRabbeliermhhh, looks like chanserv died?
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21:35.43SRabbeliereither that, or Pidgin is f*cking up
21:35.43scorchejust a bit slow today...you know how it goes
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21:37.00SRabbeliermhhh, was probably pdigin
21:37.23scorcheit wouldnt be
21:37.37SRabbelierno?
21:38.06scorcheno...unless pidgin did not identify you until then
21:38.54SRabbeliercould be
21:38.56SRabbelierah well :)
23:52.25Sidneiis away: off

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