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| 00:36.38 | lbt | night all |
| 00:36.49 | lcuk | nn lbt |
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| 01:22.14 | mikhas | lcuk, still there? |
| 01:22.27 | mikhas | I am running LMT apps in my desktop's native resolution |
| 01:23.37 | Jade | hi |
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| 01:30.19 | lcuk | :) mikhas, that sounds promising! |
| 01:30.39 | lcuk | I shall talk to you tomorrow though, am sleepy |
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| 01:31.13 | mikhas | I am sleepy too |
| 01:31.22 | mikhas | but if I tell you how trivial it was ... man |
| 01:31.23 | timeless_w7ip | sleep? good idea |
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| 01:34.01 | lcuk | mikhas, knowing which line to change is what makes you good at your job :) |
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| 01:42.56 | alancio | hello |
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| 01:44.42 | Venemo | how does MeeGo run on an Nvidia ION chip? |
| 01:45.33 | alancio | anybody here know anything about the Nokia N950? |
| 01:45.49 | Venemo | alancio, it is not announced yet. it's just a rumour. |
| 01:46.28 | alancio | I'm thinking about getting a N900, but maybe I should wait for the N950 or N9 |
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| 01:50.13 | alancio | any clues about when is this cellphone going to be released? |
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| 01:55.09 | Venemo | alancio, official announcement says that a meego device will be released "in 2011". |
| 01:55.19 | Venemo | that's all that we know for sure |
| 01:55.33 | berndhs | and also, the world will end in 2012 |
| 01:56.18 | alancio | geez, in that case I hope nokia doesn't delay it until 2012 |
| 01:57.01 | alancio | the other thing is I heard battery life in the N900 sucks |
| 01:57.15 | alancio | that you have to charge it everyday |
| 01:57.28 | timeless_w7ip | alancio: depends what you do w/ one |
| 01:57.36 | timeless_w7ip | if you run dozens of presence services |
| 01:57.43 | timeless_w7ip | or do regular video calls |
| 01:57.49 | timeless_w7ip | or run an xchat w/ a bunch of servers |
| 01:57.54 | timeless_w7ip | then yeah, your battery life will suck |
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| 01:58.05 | timeless_w7ip | if you don't try to kill the battery, it can last for a couple of days |
| 01:58.42 | timeless_w7ip | but it's like saying that your sports car runs out of gass because you drive it from LA to SF and back a couple of times daily |
| 01:58.56 | timeless_w7ip | (@120mph or better) |
| 01:59.24 | timeless_w7ip | the n8 otoh is a totally useless PoC, but it gets really good battery life |
| 01:59.32 | timeless_w7ip | it works great as a nightstand clock |
| 01:59.38 | alancio | lol |
| 01:59.44 | timeless_w7ip | totally useless for anything else, but hey! |
| 02:00.02 | alancio | why is it a poc? |
| 02:00.13 | alancio | because of hardware or software? |
| 02:00.19 | timeless_w7ip | software |
| 02:00.29 | timeless_w7ip | the hardware just makes it look ugly :) |
| 02:00.34 | alancio | haha |
| 02:00.48 | alancio | well I'm currently using a E71 (symbian s60) |
| 02:00.57 | alancio | I love the voip integration |
| 02:00.59 | timeless_w7ip | i had an e61i |
| 02:01.07 | timeless_w7ip | and the voip integration in the n8 is awful |
| 02:01.12 | timeless_w7ip | i tried it once and gave up in disgust |
| 02:01.19 | timeless_w7ip | the n900's is sooooo much better |
| 02:01.29 | alancio | really? wow I should really get it then |
| 02:01.37 | timeless_w7ip | shrugs |
| 02:01.43 | alancio | voip is the only reason why I'm staying with nokia |
| 02:01.44 | timeless_w7ip | don't take my word for it, i'm biased |
| 02:02.01 | alancio | well, in the E71 I can't do conference or transfers |
| 02:02.03 | alancio | but the rest is fine |
| 02:02.05 | timeless_w7ip | but really, w/ the n900 i enter a number: +1 800 555 TELL |
| 02:02.14 | timeless_w7ip | and then i choose how i want to call (Skype, SIP, Cellular) |
| 02:02.38 | timeless_w7ip | and after i hang up, i can easily redial that number via a different carrier (SIP, Skype, Cellular) |
| 02:02.43 | timeless_w7ip | w/ the n8, i can't do that |
| 02:02.43 | alancio | how about integration with the addressbook? or automatically registering to the pbx when using certain wifi network? |
| 02:03.04 | timeless_w7ip | the former is mostly great |
| 02:03.05 | alancio | if you have the n8, try dialing the number and an @ after it |
| 02:03.14 | alancio | thats what I do in my E71 |
| 02:03.44 | timeless_w7ip | active call restrictions |
| 02:03.52 | timeless_w7ip | the number you dialed cannot be reached from this phone |
| 02:03.58 | timeless_w7ip | what's * supposed to do?? |
| 02:04.06 | alancio | in my E71 it makes a voip call |
| 02:04.15 | alancio | and if you are not registered, it tries to register |
| 02:04.25 | timeless_w7ip | doesn't work here |
| 02:04.58 | alancio | why do you have an N8 and an N900? |
| 02:05.08 | timeless_w7ip | now i just got "no answer" |
| 02:05.19 | timeless_w7ip | i work for nokia, we get a free corporate phone every 2 years |
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| 02:05.29 | timeless_w7ip | but i forgot to order an n900 when i was entitled and it was avail |
| 02:05.46 | timeless_w7ip | i wanted to order something, preferably expensive |
| 02:05.57 | timeless_w7ip | of the choices, the n8 matched the requirements |
| 02:06.05 | timeless_w7ip | i was told it had a good camera (it does) |
| 02:06.19 | timeless_w7ip | and it turns out that its gps ttf is excellent |
| 02:06.28 | alancio | yeah, I also liked the n8, but it doesn't have a keyboard |
| 02:06.39 | timeless_w7ip | yeah, but the e7 keyboard is awful at the edges |
| 02:06.44 | timeless_w7ip | so i wasn't going to get it.. |
| 02:07.04 | timeless_w7ip | and i already have an n900, which is a better phone / keyboard |
| 02:07.20 | alancio | so what is your favorite cellphone? |
| 02:07.27 | timeless_w7ip | "cellphone"? |
| 02:07.31 | alancio | considering software, hardware, battery life |
| 02:07.41 | alancio | well, cellphone/internet table |
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| 02:07.46 | alancio | *tablet |
| 02:07.53 | timeless_w7ip | keep in mind that i work for nokia and have been for 5 years in Maemo |
| 02:08.06 | timeless_w7ip | i haven't really had much time to play w/ competitive devices |
| 02:08.11 | timeless_w7ip | for my needs, the n900 is great |
| 02:08.17 | timeless_w7ip | but i'm also not concerned w/ battery life |
| 02:08.43 | timeless_w7ip | i go to work + recharge. before going to dinner i recharge. when i get home or when i wake up, i recharge |
| 02:08.59 | timeless_w7ip | normal people go to work, sit at a desk, can plug in their phone |
| 02:09.15 | timeless_w7ip | when they go to a meeting/lunch they take their phone, when they get back, they can recharge |
| 02:09.24 | alancio | yeah, me too, except sometimes I go clubbing and return the next day |
| 02:09.28 | timeless_w7ip | your average person doesn't spend 8 hours running around w/o a power outlet |
| 02:09.42 | timeless_w7ip | certainly not here in Finland |
| 02:09.49 | alancio | haha ok |
| 02:09.50 | timeless_w7ip | and i think the same applies to the rest of Europe |
| 02:09.59 | timeless_w7ip | I can't speak for North America |
| 02:10.09 | timeless_w7ip | note that there are exceptions... |
| 02:10.18 | timeless_w7ip | but if you're driving, i'm pretty sure you can get a car charger |
| 02:10.33 | alancio | I drive my bicycle to work |
| 02:10.36 | timeless_w7ip | and if you have a modern car it probably has usb charging |
| 02:10.37 | alancio | no license |
| 02:10.46 | timeless_w7ip | but i wouldn't know, i don't have a license :) |
| 02:10.58 | timeless_w7ip | i do know that you can get a generator to stick on the back of your bike |
| 02:11.12 | alancio | haha that I wouldn't do, its 1 km anyway |
| 02:11.17 | alancio | or 1.4 |
| 02:11.21 | timeless_w7ip | and based on the output it can generate for a nice bright front light, i'd imagine it'd be able to charge a phone too |
| 02:11.39 | alancio | well it would be a cool toy |
| 02:11.41 | timeless_w7ip | but again, this only matters if you spend hours in motion |
| 02:11.56 | alancio | what do you do in nokia? |
| 02:12.50 | timeless_w7ip | http://pilom.com/BicycleElectronics/Dynamo.htm |
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| 02:13.05 | timeless_w7ip | a bike dynamo does 500mA @ 6V |
| 02:13.17 | timeless_w7ip | which should do nicely for charging a phone. usb charging from a pc is 500mA |
| 02:13.23 | timeless_w7ip | (not sure about voltage) |
| 02:13.44 | alancio | from the PC its probably 5v (if its usb) |
| 02:14.14 | timeless_w7ip | right, so that should easily cover your phone :) |
| 02:15.05 | alancio | what kind of job do you have in nokia? |
| 02:15.18 | timeless_w7ip | i worked on the browser for maemo |
| 02:15.30 | timeless_w7ip | nowadays i mostly work on mxr (e.g. mxr.meego.com) |
| 02:16.01 | alancio | oh ok |
| 02:16.21 | timeless_w7ip | anyway, for phones... i admire features of certain platforms |
| 02:16.24 | alancio | man I would love to work for nokia |
| 02:16.30 | timeless_w7ip | shrugs |
| 02:16.36 | alancio | well, thats before the microsoft deal |
| 02:16.40 | timeless_w7ip | shrugs |
| 02:17.21 | alancio | so if you are working on meego, that means nokia is still investing in meego? |
| 02:17.45 | timeless_w7ip | sadly you shouldn't draw that conclusion from me |
| 02:17.55 | timeless_w7ip | i do things because i think they're important |
| 02:18.31 | alancio | mmm ok, so what will you do if they tell you to stop working on meego related stuff? |
| 02:18.32 | timeless_w7ip | that isn't to say that nokia is or isn't investing (it probably is), but i'm not the reason to measure |
| 02:18.55 | timeless_w7ip | i'm working on mxr for nokia because nokia needs mxr w/ or w/o meego |
| 02:19.09 | timeless_w7ip | i just happen to also be working on mxr.meego.com outside those hours |
| 02:19.31 | timeless_w7ip | óne's a product, one's an instance :) |
| 02:19.53 | alancio | ah ok |
| 02:19.55 | timeless_w7ip | boggles |
| 02:20.05 | timeless_w7ip | is that an accented o that i wrote? if so, how did i write it? :( |
| 02:20.15 | alancio | haha |
| 02:20.21 | alancio | ó |
| 02:20.31 | timeless_w7ip | tries very hard not to use intl supporting keyboards |
| 02:20.44 | alancio | I thought you used all those characters in finnish |
| 02:20.58 | timeless_w7ip | not everyone who lives here is a native |
| 02:21.07 | timeless_w7ip | nokia imports people from all over the world |
| 02:21.38 | alancio | so where are you originally from? |
| 02:21.39 | timeless_w7ip | we had a guy working on X11 from .au |
| 02:21.45 | timeless_w7ip | .us |
| 02:22.02 | alancio | ok |
| 02:22.13 | alancio | if I tell you my tld you won't know the country |
| 02:22.40 | alancio | I also moved to work in a different country |
| 02:22.45 | alancio | .ve -> .jp |
| 02:22.57 | timeless_w7ip | vietnam/japan |
| 02:23.02 | timeless_w7ip | but you're in pennsylvania |
| 02:23.06 | alancio | venezuela -> japan |
| 02:23.15 | timeless_w7ip | err, oops |
| 02:23.18 | timeless_w7ip | vi |
| 02:23.24 | alancio | yeah, after the earthquake and radiation problems I took a trip to philadelphia |
| 02:23.43 | timeless_w7ip | it's 4am, please forgive me for botching .v? |
| 02:23.43 | alancio | but I have to go back |
| 02:24.02 | alancio | what are you doing awake at 4am? |
| 02:24.15 | timeless_w7ip | merging code |
| 02:25.06 | alancio | so whats the mood in nokia after the microsoft deal? |
| 02:25.20 | alancio | I would guess people are pissed |
| 02:25.31 | alancio | I don't understand the strategy |
| 02:25.58 | alancio | first they change maemo, great! |
| 02:26.12 | alancio | a few months later, ditch it all and start with meego, whatever |
| 02:26.18 | alancio | and now M$??? |
| 02:26.28 | timeless_w7ip | this is really -bar material |
| 02:26.32 | timeless_w7ip | but .. |
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| 09:33.48 | lbt | pong |
| 09:34.12 | aruravi | need the community OBS, my meego.com account is arunravi |
| 09:34.28 | aruravi | and am working for DE |
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| 09:55.49 | arfoll | Stskeeps, didn't know there was one! i'll have a search through the archives |
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| 11:13.59 | naquad | hi |
| 11:14.10 | naquad | is it possible to run meego image for netbooks on x64 system? |
| 11:14.40 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 11:14.53 | Stskeeps | morn jafa |
| 11:16.38 | alterego | naquad: should be, as most 64 bit machines run in 32 bit mode :P |
| 11:17.19 | naquad | alterego, ok. i'm downloading image atm, want to run it with qemu-kvm. |
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| 11:18.22 | alterego | yeah, kvm works fine for me running 3wbit under 64 bit Os, it's the otherway around you can't do ;) |
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| 11:18.37 | alterego | Hey vgrade-nexus |
| 11:18.58 | vgrade-nexus | morning |
| 11:20.03 | vgrade-nexus | did you confirm the venue for the 20th? |
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| 11:30.25 | naquad | when i try to boot meego with qemu i get the following error: [drm:i915_init] *ERROR* drm/i915 can't work without intel_agp module - any ides how to fix this? |
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| 11:56.21 | ar | naquad: thing is, qemu doesn't emulate any graphics card, and it seems that meego requires intel graphics (at least on x86) |
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| 11:57.10 | naquad | ar, any ideas what should i do with it to make it work? |
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| 12:01.57 | jonnor | naquad: try to disable KMS/ the i915 module |
| 12:01.59 | lcuk2 | naquad, do you have i915 chipset? |
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| 12:03.07 | ar | lcuk2: "naquad | when i try to boot meego with qemu (...)" |
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| 12:23.50 | lcuk2 | ar arrrr |
| 12:24.24 | lcuk2 | w00t_, bug 14266 has been prioritised by Jessica |
| 12:24.26 | _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14266 nor, Medium, ---, viroteck, ASSI, Font character glyphs go missing inside application after viewing dashboard |
| 12:24.33 | w00t_ | so i see :) |
| 12:24.36 | naquad | so any ideas? it seems that thing can't run in any kind of emulators at all :( |
| 12:24.38 | w00t_ | my microsd should be arriving today |
| 12:25.26 | naquad | i've compiled qemu according to instruction at http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Qemu - that didn't help either (yeah, i know its about arm, but i thought it could work out for i386( |
| 12:25.27 | naquad | ) |
| 12:26.26 | lcuk2 | naquad, not sure about the complexities of qemu then as ar pointed out.. someone else might |
| 12:26.43 | lcuk2 | what spec is your host machine |
| 12:27.06 | naquad | lcuk2, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+, 2GB RAM, Arch Linux distro |
| 12:27.20 | naquad | 2.6.37 kernel |
| 12:28.45 | lcuk2 | naquad, what graphics card? |
| 12:28.57 | naquad | nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1) |
| 12:29.21 | lcuk2 | :D heh 7600GT is awesome |
| 12:29.32 | naquad | box is quiet old, i know :) |
| 12:29.37 | lcuk2 | not that it helps you run meego |
| 12:30.25 | naquad | i've tried another box with intel processord and ati radeon hd4870, x64 too, same story |
| 12:30.54 | lcuk2 | well (I think) the error you have is qemu trying to load the intel graphics driver |
| 12:30.58 | jonnor | naquad: tried disabling kms in the image? |
| 12:30.59 | lcuk2 | which neither machine has available |
| 12:31.13 | naquad | jonner, hm, how do i? |
| 12:31.18 | naquad | nokms kernel arg? |
| 12:31.35 | naquad | jonnor, ^^ sorry |
| 12:31.40 | naquad | completion sometimes sux |
| 12:31.43 | jonnor | naquad: nomodeset or somesuch. Documented on Arch wiki under KMS |
| 12:31.55 | jonnor | or the Intel page |
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| 12:34.49 | naquad | jonnor, did nomodeset i915.modeset=0 - same story |
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| 12:48.45 | jonnor | naquad: strange. What if you do i915.blacklist=yes ? |
| 12:48.56 | naquad | one sec, doing that |
| 12:49.19 | naquad | same again |
| 12:49.41 | jonnor | which Meego image? |
| 12:49.52 | naquad | meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.img |
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| 12:51.36 | jonnor | naquad: I'd try a 1.2 prerelease. Also, there is a wikipage about Meego Netbook 1.1 and virtualbox. It might contain relevant information |
| 12:51.59 | naquad | jonnor, where is that page? i didn't find any :( |
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| 12:53.55 | lcuk | giggles at Duke Nukem Forever article |
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| 13:01.40 | jonnor | naquad: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox |
| 13:01.44 | jonnor | it was 1.0 apparently |
| 13:03.29 | naquad | jonnor, thank you, seems to be working |
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| 13:10.44 | lcuk | apt-get install sandwich |
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| 13:13.03 | timeless_w7ip | lcuk: sounds good |
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| 13:14.33 | timeless_w7ip | hrm, is it me or is there a random line break in the MXR description @ http://meego.com/developers |
| 13:14.51 | naquad | jonnor, what should i do in case when uxlaunch crashes all the time? |
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| 13:18.23 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, looks that way. But I just tried something and not got an answer yet |
| 13:18.31 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, it says I can use mxr to look up anything |
| 13:18.35 | lcuk | I entered "meaning of life" |
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| 13:19.01 | lcuk | "Sorry, it looks like our servers are having trouble! |
| 13:19.01 | lcuk | Please try your request again or use the links below to report the issue." |
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| 13:28.38 | mikhas | what do I need to do if I wanted to reserve #meego-meeting and occupy the meetbot |
| 13:28.54 | Stskeeps | ~haveameegomeeting |
| 13:28.54 | infobot | well, haveameegomeeting is book at http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule , read http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines#IRC_Meeting_Guidelines and instructions for MeetBot at http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html |
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| 13:29.31 | mikhas | thanks infoboot |
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| 13:47.03 | jonnor | Installing Meego Handet on n900 will leave the Maemo install intact, right? |
| 13:47.16 | Stskeeps | yes, if you do it right |
| 13:48.15 | jonnor | Stskeeps: I'm assuming http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-meego-nokia-n900 documents the right way? |
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| 13:48.27 | Stskeeps | wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC too |
| 13:48.38 | timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: so i'm looking at https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AigJOFz-h_P4dE1ESTh4NkhHVGJtcmxBeHpXYmNaX1E&hl=en |
| 13:48.53 | timeless_w7ip | is trying to figure out what the top 50 people do |
| 13:48.57 | Stskeeps | FEA#'s |
| 13:49.15 | timeless_w7ip | oh |
| 13:49.16 | timeless_w7ip | joy |
| 13:49.23 | timeless_w7ip | good point |
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| 13:50.10 | timeless_w7ip | so a FEA is defined as a bug whose summary contains [FEA] ? |
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| 13:50.24 | lcuk | well timeless_w7ip if you opened it for editing we oculd write on what each person does |
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| 13:50.46 | lcuk | like #8 is Sage on the N900 adaption team |
| 13:51.25 | timeless_w7ip | lcuk: done. have at it |
| 13:51.29 | lcuk | \o |
| 13:51.44 | jonnor | Stskeeps: ok, thanks |
| 13:51.49 | iekku | oh, i have reported 3 bugs :d |
| 13:52.09 | iekku | one is meta for FEA# |
| 13:52.11 | iekku | :D |
| 13:52.45 | timeless_w7ip | iekku: technically these numbers are not accurate |
| 13:52.49 | lcuk | 21 bugs for me |
| 13:52.56 | timeless_w7ip | e.g. if you query for me, you won't see the same number as in the report |
| 13:53.26 | iekku | timeless_w7ip, why did you make this? |
| 13:53.49 | timeless_w7ip | a comment i want to write on bug 9943 i think |
| 13:53.49 | Sage | I'm #8 in what? |
| 13:53.51 | _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 nor, Undecided, ---, eric.le-roux, NEED, Some Bugs are confidential in this open source project |
| 13:54.14 | timeless_w7ip | sage: number of bugs filed that i can see |
| 13:54.25 | timeless_w7ip | which should be roughly equivalent to number of bugs filed |
| 13:54.50 | Sage | oh.... |
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| 13:56.01 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, I have filled a few others in there, other folks need to login and do more though :$ |
| 13:56.03 | lcuk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.54 | timeless_w7ip | wonders what a [REG] is |
| 13:57.01 | timeless_w7ip | regression? |
| 13:57.21 | lcuk | those are members of the reggae music band. |
| 13:57.22 | Stskeeps | yes |
| 13:57.35 | Sage | 7 people in top 50 are not Intel employees :) |
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| 13:58.30 | iekku | :) |
| 13:58.44 | lcuk | sage, Intel have a longer history, wasn't the database imported directly from moblin |
| 13:58.52 | Stskeeps | no |
| 13:58.52 | Stskeeps | bug 1 |
| 13:58.55 | _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1 maj, Medium, ---, vivian.zhang, VERI FIXED, [Tracker] tracker-miner-fs should be auto-started after system boot |
| 13:59.04 | lcuk | the long tail of others though should hopefully be a more balanced mix |
| 13:59.08 | Stskeeps | look at date |
| 13:59.18 | lcuk | ahh Stskeeps was thinking those were imported |
| 13:59.20 | lcuk | like bug 440 |
| 13:59.22 | _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440 enh, Low, ---, sameo, ASSI, Unable to support ad-hoc mode for WiFi |
| 13:59.33 | lcuk | which DID come from there |
| 13:59.49 | lcuk | hence thinking that other of those early ones would |
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| 14:03.50 | timeless_w7ip | https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=short_desc&type0-0-0=notsubstring&value0-0-0=[FEA]&reporter=gavin.hindman@intel.com |
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| 14:03.58 | timeless_w7ip | is the query i'm using to review people fwiw |
| 14:04.10 | lcuk | did sami just manually enter 1400 bugs one after the other, or were they exported from some other document do you think |
| 14:04.28 | Stskeeps | prolly inported |
| 14:05.25 | alterego | Heh |
| 14:05.35 | lcuk | yeah |
| 14:06.16 | Sage | heh, didn't even remember my first bugs :) |
| 14:06.35 | lcuk | sage, most people don't |
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| 14:07.05 | lcuk | "umbilical cord connected" |
| 14:08.17 | timeless_w7ip | note to self: sort by bug # |
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| 14:10.35 | lcuk | \o/ navtec are trialing/implementing indoor navigation :D |
| 14:10.49 | lcuk | rolling out to a set of malls in the US :) |
| 14:11.10 | timeless_w7ip | oh if people could confirm + remove the ?'s i'd appreciate it |
| 14:11.17 | lcuk | http://www.allaboutmeego.com/news/item/12713_NavTeq_announce_their_indoor_n.php |
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| 14:32.20 | lcuk | Hi Bob, |
| 14:32.20 | lcuk | Sorry you've been having trouble logging into your Facebook account. |
| 14:32.53 | lcuk | Dear Facebook, (a) I am not Bob. (b) I did not try to log in. KTHXBYE. |
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| 14:37.13 | timeless_w7ip | lcuk: at least you weren't signed up for mailing lists from the ronald reagan library |
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| 14:38.10 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, I am not surprisingly signed up to quite a number of things |
| 14:38.30 | lcuk | but what would the Ronald Reagan library subscription offer? |
| 14:38.34 | timeless_w7ip | because you took the effort or because people can't spell their email address? |
| 14:38.48 | timeless_w7ip | email from a library about a dead president whom i didn't like? |
| 14:39.20 | lcuk | well thankfully, many web signons now have verification stage, so I might get a number of you are signing up for ... |
| 14:39.23 | timeless_w7ip | but probably "please send money, k tanx, ps we R tx D-duct-Bill" |
| 14:39.44 | timeless_w7ip | this one forgot to implement that step :( |
| 14:39.58 | lcuk | but if I don't click the link to follow up they generally do not continue with signup |
| 14:39.59 | timeless_w7ip | "hi, we is incompetent" |
| 14:40.17 | timeless_w7ip | "just like our namesake" |
| 14:40.34 | timeless_w7ip | (actually, he wasn't as bad as some who followed him, but..) |
| 14:40.47 | lcuk | life. |
| 14:40.48 | timeless_w7ip | ... his solution was to spend the competition into failure |
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| 14:41.03 | timeless_w7ip | it did work, but we're still paying for it |
| 14:41.57 | lcuk | yeah |
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| 14:54.06 | timeless_w7ip | darn! |
| 14:54.12 | timeless_w7ip | lcuk; #41 |
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| 14:55.00 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, is that the answer to what I asked earlier? |
| 14:56.28 | lcuk | ps, the reggae playlist I started earlier is still playing, hadn't noticed how peaceful it was to have on in background :) |
| 14:56.29 | timeless_w7ip | it's the answer to the question for which i made my spreadsheet |
| 14:57.42 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, ok, so what was that question? |
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| 15:01.56 | timeless_w7ip | lcuk: who's actually involved in security related bugs |
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| 15:04.13 | lcuk | well yes, that is predictable |
| 15:05.52 | timeless_w7ip | you could predict #41? |
| 15:06.09 | timeless_w7ip | anyway bug 9943 updated |
| 15:06.11 | _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 nor, Undecided, ---, eric.le-roux, NEW, Some Bugs are confidential without reasonable justification |
| 15:07.39 | lcuk | timeless_w7ip, that there was more than a few |
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| 15:09.35 | timeless_w7ip | heads out |
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| 17:23.42 | qgil | Nice, another piece opened: http://lists.ofono.org/pipermail/ofono/2011-January/007030.html |
| 17:24.08 | qgil | (I had missed it) |
| 17:24.23 | Stskeeps | ah, cool |
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| 17:25.07 | Stskeeps | might be useful on DE i think |
| 17:25.15 | Stskeeps | still useful to use a n900 as a modem at times :) |
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| 17:31.50 | maligor | For some reason that brought into mind the wargames modem where you put the headset into the receiver |
| 17:32.00 | maligor | It'd certainly be amusing for modern cellphones |
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| 17:33.31 | hena | "the wargames modem" :) |
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| 17:35.18 | maligor | I'm too young to have experienced them myself ;P |
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| 17:38.23 | MeeGoExperts1 | Quick question: Its not possible to be logged in concurrently on two different devices with the same username on IRC is it ? |
| 17:38.32 | Stskeeps | correct |
| 17:38.40 | Stskeeps | i personally have a server i connect to |
| 17:38.48 | Stskeeps | with irssi on |
| 17:39.14 | maligor | there might be irc bouncers that allow that tho |
| 17:39.17 | Stskeeps | true |
| 17:39.20 | Stskeeps | irssi-proxy? |
| 17:40.04 | MeeGoExperts1 | Cool. Thanks :-) *off to research irssi* |
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| 17:41.04 | mihero | research screen also |
| 17:44.18 | maligor | there's also generic bouncers, but they tend to have history issues |
| 17:44.41 | maligor | but haven't used those for a long while now |
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| 21:13.44 | Znk | Hi |
| 21:14.00 | mikhas | iH |
| 21:14.04 | Znk | someone here? |
| 21:14.19 | berndhs | 500 of them |
| 21:14.21 | Znk | the best netbook for MeeGo? |
| 21:14.44 | thiago_home | lenovo ideapad |
| 21:15.06 | mikhas | but only because many others have it, therefore cheap support ;-) |
| 21:15.21 | Znk | lenovo? |
| 21:15.21 | gabrbedd | Znk: Lenovo S10-3t ideapad with atheros wifi card. |
| 21:15.28 | mikhas | some form of inofficial reference device |
| 21:15.40 | gabrbedd | Znk: (Note that *many* ship with a broadcom card.) |
| 21:16.04 | lcuk | didn't broadcom sort out the drivers? |
| 21:16.12 | lcuk | ie that does not matter |
| 21:16.34 | gabrbedd | mikhas: It was the first convertable netbook with touchscreen to hit the market... so, yeah. |
| 21:17.03 | lcuk | gabrbedd, it has about the same spec as the lenovo x41 :P |
| 21:17.04 | Znk | Im thinking in Asus EeePC 1005PXD but if you say that Lenovo is better... |
| 21:17.08 | lcuk | which I had for years |
| 21:17.13 | lcuk | infact - lower spec :P |
| 21:17.52 | gabrbedd | lcuk: AFAIK, broadcom still not sorted, yet. But there's a light at the end of the tunnel. |
| 21:18.03 | Znk | In the store have the Lenovo IdeaPad S10 |
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| 21:18.25 | mikhas | that light being a broadcom train? |
| 21:18.26 | gabrbedd | Znk: I'm not saying it's "better" -- I'm just saying that you can have my Ideapad when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. |
| 21:18.52 | Znk | haha |
| 21:19.03 | mikhas | it has a nice multi-touch capable display, if that counts |
| 21:19.23 | gabrbedd | Znk: The ASUS may be nice... I've just never played with one. For MeeGo you want an N450 processor, supported multi-touch touchscreen, and supported wifi card. |
| 21:20.04 | lcuk | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/215919/broadcom_joins_the_linux_foundation.html |
| 21:20.36 | lcuk | "Broadcom will continue to work on the Linux Driver Project, and it will also participate in The Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit, " |
| 21:21.02 | lcuk | that is coming up now isn't it? |
| 21:21.22 | lcuk | (tfa was from January) |
| 21:22.50 | Znk | hmmm where i can buy the Lenovo that you say? im from spain :S |
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| 21:24.48 | lcuk | Znk, goto hardware store: purchase 1 (one) flux capacitor, install into handy delorean, set dial to November 15th 2010, travel on highway at 88 (eighty eight) mile per hour. |
| 21:24.49 | thiago_home | doesn't lenovo have a spanish website? |
| 21:25.14 | Znk | i dont know, searching.... xD |
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| 21:27.26 | gabrbedd | lcuk: Right... but an OSS driver for the Lenovo Broadcom Wifi cards is not in 1.1, and AFAIK will not be in 1.2 (at least... 2.6.37 didn't work for me!) |
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| 21:44.14 | vgrade | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.html, |
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| 21:44.53 | lbt | 404 vgrade |
| 21:45.36 | alterego | not for me |
| 21:45.51 | berndhs | 404 from here |
| 21:45.51 | alterego | Oh, yeah it is |
| 21:45.59 | alterego | porbably no trailing comma |
| 21:46.32 | alterego | hurp no |
| 21:46.58 | lbt | non us? |
| 21:47.36 | alterego | vgrade is in the uk |
| 21:47.38 | lbt | considers proxy via meego.com ... but my fingfds gone sleepy |
| 21:47.43 | lcuk | gabrbedd, vgrade it is the article about honeycomb |
| 21:47.50 | lcuk | just go to main page and link again |
| 21:47.54 | berndhs | maybe need the delorean with the flux thingy ? |
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| 21:48.35 | lcuk | i got 404 when using the link (even removing the comma) but it is happy to be displayed via the main content page |
| 21:48.45 | lbt | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/memes-business-cat-take-this-job.jpg |
| 21:48.51 | lbt | much better |
| 21:49.37 | gabrbedd | berndhs: I think they forgot to hook up the doll |
| 21:50.17 | vgrade | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm |
| 21:50.23 | lcuk | >>> everyday superhero >>> http://badassoftheweek.com/akaiwa.html |
| 21:50.40 | gabrbedd | strokes chin thoughtfully... |
| 21:51.08 | lcuk | gabrbedd, I was just stroking mine when I read that - do you have a beard also? |
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| 21:52.13 | alterego | lcuk: I was reading that sentence and got kind of scared |
| 21:52.21 | alterego | until the last two words. |
| 21:52.51 | gabrbedd | lcuk: No, or I would have said "beard" instead of "chin" |
| 21:52.56 | gabrbedd | lcuk: used to, though. |
| 21:54.41 | lcuk | vgrade, the wuestion is not whether code is being held back, it is if they have distributed things which use the code (which is where licensing things come in) |
| 21:54.51 | lcuk | if no distribution occured, why are we reading this article |
| 21:56.14 | lcuk | movie question: Comedy "The Other Guys" is it worth sitting through the DVD that is here? |
| 21:56.23 | pixelgeek1 | lcuk: Motorola Xoom is currenly shipping in the US with Honeycomb |
| 21:57.51 | pixelgeek1 | 78% on rotton tomatoes - do you like Will Ferrell? |
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| 21:58.20 | lcuk | only in certain films, zoolander tickled immensely |
| 22:00.03 | vgrade | lcuk, I thought it was interesting in light of, http://twitter.com/#!/Arubin/status/27808662429 |
| 22:02.51 | lcuk | vgrade, what is the repo command set in use there? |
| 22:03.31 | TSCHAKeee | :( |
| 22:03.37 | TSCHAKeee | that is depressing |
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| 22:09.56 | lcuk | vgrade, how can meego usb key be made self creating - it is something I have pondered - take a running meego image, insert usb stick and have all apps and filesystem placed onto it. move to different computer and plug in to continue |
| 22:13.49 | lcuk | (also makes for awesome backup tool :O) |
| 22:14.42 | gabrbedd | lcuk: This is more or less what mic2 is doing to create the stick images. |
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| 22:15.28 | berndhs | anyone know the weird licenses on the Qt SDK ? |
| 22:16.09 | gabrbedd | lcuk: So some motivated hacker could probably find a way pretty easily. |
| 22:16.53 | lcuk | gabrbedd, extra points for making prototype .ks from the same thing :O |
| 22:18.09 | gabrbedd | lcuk: Haha! Yeah. But even that should be pretty simple using zypper + python (or perl if you prefer) |
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| 22:19.26 | lcuk | has not seen backup/restore tool for meego yet I don't think. |
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| 22:28.47 | wmarone | http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/google-keeping-honeycomb-source-code-on-ice-says-its-not-ready/ |
| 22:29.45 | berndhs | i have long suspected that a lot of software is closed source to avoid embarassment |
| 22:30.35 | lcuk | meh |
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| 22:32.52 | vgrade | I guess now the market has been captured its time for some payback |
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| 22:34.22 | vgrade | whats the argument for me not putting HC on my tegra2 |
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| 22:49.14 | CosmoHill | crashes firefox with .,.... |
| 22:49.17 | CosmoHill | dammit, it recovered |
| 22:49.33 | CosmoHill | ha!@ |
| 22:49.49 | CosmoHill | "Firefox prevented 12883 pop-ups from opening" |
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| 22:59.59 | w00t_ | has now booked tickets to SFO and gotten an electronic entry thingy into the country o/ |
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| 23:02.13 | wmarone | \o/ |
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