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| 00:35.01 | Oksana | KotCzarny : Ah, yes. LCD flat cable can be easily cut by a card (paper, cardboard or plastic) sneaking inside the slider. Or just wear out because of metal/sand/slider/whatever. Haven't heard about modem problems for a while, but USB port is like the most common-to-occur-and-difficult-to-fix problem |
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| 00:36.39 | Oksana | Broken screws: I can fairly easily remove most of "flat head, round +" screws with screw extractor (used to just drill off the heads before that, but it's not a kind solution). Haven't seen broken threads in a long while. |
| 00:38.39 | Oksana | >> and my wakeup switch is worn out from use to flatness, helps to have nails in that case << Fun, haven't seen this one. But setting auto-black-screen to more than 10 seconds helps. Because unfortunately, just tapping the screen to wake it up doesn't seem to work? Not like it does with Nokia N9? |
| 00:39.31 | Oksana | Slider mechanism also peels off black paint from part of assembly. Just because of friction of spring. |
| 00:41.45 | Oksana | >> of course the device isnot rated "water proof", so what a problem report is "green stain on PCB form water in device" ??? << Probably exposure to humid air, such as, on the beach. It was never dropped into water, or spilled on. |
| 00:42.52 | Oksana | green stain on EM metallic shields on PCB, the ones which are visible when device is separated into two parts by removing four long screws. |
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| 00:47.53 | Maxdamantus | I put a blob of epoxy on the slider on my other case, feels decent, but haven't used it actively since I swapped it with another case while waiting for it to cure. |
| 00:48.13 | Maxdamantus | (because the notch was warn down) |
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| 01:21.43 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 01:23.59 | Oksana | was wondering; regarding the LCD flat cable, what's the name of the connector that attaches it to motherboard? Is it possible to extend the length of this flex cable? Because then, it might be doable to turn the slider into something "passport"-shaped, 11x12 cm. Of course, it would be a touch too |
| 01:26.06 | Oksana | wide to be really passport form-factor. But still, it opens more possibilities for exploring different case for the same device. |
| 01:53.13 | Oksana | Where can I find battery cover for Nokia N900? EBay isn't helpful: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Nokia-N900-Akku-Cover-Batterie-Deckel-Schwarz/182661505599 |
| 02:05.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | living near sea may cause slaty mist in air that kills alu windows, cars, and probably also the zinc on shielding cans. Those nano salt crystals get everywhere- That's right |
| 02:05.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/slat/salt/ |
| 02:07.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>find battery cover<< get a whole case, prolly easier and should be same price. When you're lucky the cover cam mech etc is OK |
| 02:07.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | they were sold for like 10 to 15 bucks, a 3 years ago |
| 02:22.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | krdb test |
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| 03:38.44 | Sveta | how do i reset maemo wiki password? |
| 03:44.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask maintainer |
| 03:44.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wmo |
| 03:44.33 | infobot | hmm... wmo is http://wiki.maemo.org |
| 03:45.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sveta: user name? |
| 03:47.16 | Sveta | DocScrutinizer05: Gryllida |
| 03:47.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm sorry, "passowrds must not get edited" |
| 03:47.41 | Oksana | Can passwords be emailed? |
| 03:47.48 | Sveta | you can enable emailing of password resets |
| 03:48.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's http://susepaste.org/62540065 |
| 03:48.22 | Oksana | Or alternatively, can old account be merged with new account? |
| 03:48.51 | Sveta | this is runnign 2009 version of mediawiki |
| 03:50.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, merge old account to new account, old account gets deleted AIUI. Then do same once more, to original username |
| 03:51.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | see ^^^ |
| 03:52.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://susepaste.org/22763230 |
| 03:56.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: http://susepaste.org/20199248 |
| 03:56.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | cheers o/ |
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| 06:18.58 | Vajb | what av sw do you use? Both win and linux |
| 06:19.50 | Vajb | found clamav and thinking if it is good replacement for my current avast av... |
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| 06:32.30 | Maxdamantus | None. |
| 06:32.53 | Maxdamantus | Has always seemed like it would be ineffective to me. |
| 06:33.12 | Maxdamantus | only uses Linux-based systems. |
| 06:34.31 | Maxdamantus | If OSes did security the right way, they would tend to work somewhat like a web browser does. |
| 06:35.10 | Maxdamantus | Where an application you run doesn't just get to look through all of the files visible to the person running it. |
| 06:50.25 | Vajb | maybe there is a point for virtualization too |
| 06:51.10 | Maxdamantus | I don't think that's really necessary. |
| 06:51.58 | Maxdamantus | Linux is perfectly capable of supporting OSes that work that way. |
| 06:52.45 | Maxdamantus | The usual platforms just don't make use of it. |
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| 07:15.56 | KotCzarny | yup, what maxd said |
| 07:16.10 | KotCzarny | if you use sw hygiene, you dont really need av |
| 07:16.38 | KotCzarny | wont help of course if your lan isnt safe and you use windows though |
| 07:16.50 | KotCzarny | lots of remote sploits |
| 07:17.20 | KotCzarny | but personally, i dont use av at all, if i need to check new software i use online scanners (virustotal.com) befor installing |
| 07:19.27 | KotCzarny | oksana: my wake up switch just worn out of the few years of use, i'm not waking it up every few minutes |
| 07:20.26 | KotCzarny | there is alternative to press power button then slide on screen, but i prefer to keep my power button as virgin as i can ;) |
| 07:32.29 | Maxdamantus | Epoxy solution: https://maxdamantus.eu.org/wus.jpg |
| 07:33.21 | KotCzarny | you should either host on imgur or make smaller images |
| 07:33.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:33.31 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, probably. |
| 07:33.37 | KotCzarny | nice job tho |
| 07:34.04 | sicelo | virustotal for windows programs KotCzarny? |
| 07:34.10 | KotCzarny | sicelo: yes |
| 07:34.24 | KotCzarny | it can even scan links directly, if your uplink is slow |
| 07:34.35 | Maxdamantus | imgur solution of epoxy solution: https://i.imgur.com/2lXngDp.jpg |
| 07:35.22 | sicelo | i haven't had a windows installation (except a vm) for a while, but i think i like that solution :-) |
| 07:35.24 | KotCzarny | and if the file hash is already known, it wont upload at all, so works quite well |
| 07:36.35 | KotCzarny | it can give some false positives, because use plethora of av scanners, but it's up to you to decide which ones are trustworthy |
| 07:37.11 | Maxdamantus | And false negatives. |
| 07:37.32 | KotCzarny | maxd: sure, but isnt it the same with installed av? |
| 07:37.41 | Maxdamantus | Yes. |
| 07:37.53 | Maxdamantus | So the proper way is to restrict what the program can do. |
| 07:37.56 | KotCzarny | not to mention it wont block the ones that download real threats |
| 07:38.56 | Maxdamantus | https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/8e5ad140812edd53e5430ebeddb07a9f9643503bdfe1994896a03be3b4b21e0e/detection |
| 07:39.11 | Maxdamantus | Hm .. so I guess none of those things actually try to run it. |
| 07:40.11 | KotCzarny | stilmight be also it only checks for domain karma |
| 07:40.18 | Maxdamantus | (that program is something I wrote ( https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/959967 ), which is completely harmless, but does involve intercepting all key presses) |
| 07:41.29 | KotCzarny | also remember that av has settable heuristics. and yeah, best would be to just provide what program can do |
| 07:41.36 | KotCzarny | ie. analyze functions used |
| 07:41.44 | KotCzarny | and report that instead |
| 07:42.40 | KotCzarny | but then again, you can obfuscate program with compression, internal encryption etc |
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| 07:45.11 | Maxdamantus | Oh, if I go into the "Downloaded file" thing, it shows 4 things with exclamation marks next to them. |
| 07:46.29 | xCA7BABE5 | hmmm |
| 07:48.10 | xCA7BABE5 | https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/6169809e4909da9938cca76cf2de9fcf9b834ecff069ac9efb862d8b2b7870d7/detection |
| 07:48.12 | xCA7BABE5 | lol |
| 07:48.53 | xCA7BABE5 | I don't think pitting sourcecode against virustotal's url scanner means anything |
| 07:49.28 | xCA7BABE5 | I have a feeling its intended purpose is site-scanning |
| 07:49.45 | xCA7BABE5 | not convenient input-by-url |
| 07:50.26 | KotCzarny | it might be some string from heuristics, hehe |
| 07:50.34 | KotCzarny | that triggers some viree |
| 07:50.43 | KotCzarny | kinda similar to startkeylogger |
| 07:50.44 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 07:51.08 | KotCzarny | it was fun few years ago when saying that on irc resulted in plenty of people getting disconnected by norton ;) |
| 07:54.04 | xCA7BABE5 | I am amused by this scenario |
| 08:06.01 | xCA7BABE5 | goes around spamming EICAR string on IRC |
| 08:06.54 | xCA7BABE5 | Probably get my ass banned :P |
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| 08:13.32 | xCA7BABE5 | https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/9ce06e3557a0785a6d49f56069a3c7416f5a0a1b5efd569183bf7a80add45fcd/detection |
| 08:15.51 | KotCzarny | that's specific string unrelated to software |
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| 09:46.48 | bencoh | hm, time to vote, or so it seems |
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| 11:56.10 | sicelo | yes, it is :-) |
| 11:58.37 | sicelo | ubt at 23:59:59 UTC |
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| 14:34.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | hola from Madrid |
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| 14:40.14 | *** topic/#maemo by sixwheeledbeast -> Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet | Q1 2018 CC ELEC |
| 14:40.44 | sixwheeledbeast | ok so there is a char limit :( |
| 14:41.49 | *** topic/#maemo by sixwheeledbeast -> Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 14:43.09 | sixwheeledbeast | hola doc |
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| 15:01.18 | sicelo | s/ubt/but/ |
| 15:01.50 | xCA7BABE5 | s/but/butt |
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| 22:22.12 | Wikiwide | Annoyed. Modest says "Message not available on server". Why? |
| 22:23.23 | KotCzarny | already deleted ? |
| 22:23.37 | Wikiwide | Also, it says "Last updated 05/12/2017", even though it does have messages newer than that in Inbox. |
| 22:23.52 | Wikiwide | KotCzarny : No, for every message. |
| 22:24.00 | KotCzarny | imap/pop3 ? |
| 22:24.18 | Wikiwide | Imap, I think... |
| 22:24.34 | KotCzarny | also, some spam fake dates, so they would always show on top |
| 22:24.48 | Wikiwide | No, not spam. |
| 22:25.24 | Wikiwide | And yes, these messages are open-able in web browser |
| 22:25.29 | KotCzarny | i don't know about modest innards though, did you try rebooting? |
| 22:26.09 | Wikiwide | Will try it, today or tomorrow, as battery discharges. |
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| 22:41.27 | KotCzarny | vajb: i've found in my old scripts another way to use js0 as a kb input: kbstick |
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