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| 00:28.22 | nox- | https://mikepohjola.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/dear-mr-nokia/ |
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| 03:31.19 | jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: nokia appears to still have quite a lot - networking, almost all car navigation systems, and umpteen patents -- might be a share to buy now ;) |
| 03:41.05 | jpinx | or have we missed that boat ? ;) |
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| 07:12.04 | XATRIX | Hi i have trouble with calendar events. It seems like i have holidays and birthdays of my skype,icq, etc... contacts in, and they double itself |
| 07:12.23 | XATRIX | For example i have DocScrutinizer05's birthday today |
| 07:12.35 | XATRIX | my calendar shows it twice |
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| 08:07.06 | Apic | Good Morning (UGT). |
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| 09:14.43 | freemangordon | kerio: how's thymby python? |
| 09:14.47 | freemangordon | thumby* |
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| 10:33.29 | kerio | i haven't felt any changes, to be honest |
| 10:33.41 | kerio | i should try modrana actually |
| 10:33.49 | kerio | it's the most intensive python program i know of |
| 10:33.57 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 10:34.02 | kerio | mh, it could be the benchmark actually |
| 10:34.22 | freemangordon | does it show some values? fps or something? |
| 10:34.46 | kerio | mh, i think it does, actually |
| 10:34.54 | kerio | but i was talking about the general feel of it |
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| 11:06.09 | LjL-Alps | Cloud GPS looks fancy |
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| 11:17.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, I have birthday? HAHA |
| 11:18.54 | kerio | happy birthday docky! |
| 11:19.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 11:19.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | happy hoax-day to XATRIX |
| 11:19.38 | kerio | yeah, it's silly |
| 11:19.50 | kerio | everyone knows you're eternal |
| 11:20.07 | XATRIX | :) |
| 11:20.27 | XATRIX | Are you really reading all the logs on the channel ? |
| 11:20.36 | XATRIX | I asked my question a few hours ago :) |
| 11:20.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sure |
| 11:20.45 | kerio | at the very least the nickpings |
| 11:21.43 | LjL-Alps | uhm, i thought something was wrong with the connection between my N900 and my RTLSDR (or not enough power), but now i see that even if i don't connect anything to USB and just leave my cable dangling, when i set "full" or "high" host mode, "lsusb" hangs up for some time. is that normal? |
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| 11:30.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL-Alps: simplified answer: yes |
| 11:33.36 | LjL-Alps | ah |
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| 11:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL-Alps: please do wc -l /usr/sbin/booston |
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| 12:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
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| 13:32.56 | Apic | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O18v_0Qn5_8/UB9HTMMS0oI/AAAAAAAABTc/-JXR0z8YbHw/w426-h364/one-question.png |
| 13:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: please don't spam channel with URLs that neither contain any hint on the topic covered in the URL itself, nor any additional context coming with it in here |
| 13:36.55 | Apic | Okay. |
| 13:36.57 | Apic | Sorry. |
| 13:37.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all no sane user will click on any such URL |
| 13:39.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | (of course *some* nerds click every URL they can find, just to find out where to it takes them. Those nerds usually have no problems whatsoever with malware on their PC, since they simply don't care ;-P) |
| 13:40.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the rest of us, we usually ponder *why* we would want to click on a URL |
| 13:41.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | "user Apic posted it to IRC" is frequently not any sufficient justification to visit any website |
| 13:42.37 | Apic | ;-) |
| 13:42.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: so, what's this URL about? |
| 13:42.56 | Apic | An xkcd Comic Strip |
| 13:43.02 | Apic | About 42 and an Alien. |
| 13:43.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, then you should link to the original xkcd page |
| 13:43.30 | Apic | Yes, sorry. |
| 13:43.35 | Apic | Premature Ejaculation. |
| 13:44.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | an xkcd URL is self-explanatory and needs no further context |
| 13:44.43 | Apic | Yes. |
| 13:44.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~buntkuh |
| 13:44.45 | infobot | [buntkuh] http://xkcd.com/424/ ... Redmond, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein-Rind |
| 13:45.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~xkcd |
| 13:45.11 | infobot | it has been said that xkcd is http://xkcd.com/ or only the best webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math and language. |
| 13:45.21 | Apic | ;-) |
| 13:50.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ld50.png :-P even matches context somehow |
| 13:52.18 | dos1 | Apic: that's from Cyanide & Happiness, not xkcd :P |
| 13:52.58 | Apic | Oh, I see. |
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| 14:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah! I pondered to set up an autoresponder to "may I ask a question?" -> "yes, one! cya" |
| 14:18.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | funny enough that been yesterday when I mused about this |
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| 14:19.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually my conclusion for my own patterns been to always ask: "may I ask 2 questions?" |
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| 14:59.06 | SAiF | can any body link to flash player 10 armel.deb? |
| 14:59.56 | SAiF | or is there anything newer that works.. |
| 15:01.26 | sixwheeledbeast | SAiF: I don't know if it works but this was linked to recently http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1276589&postcount=2221 |
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| 15:02.34 | sixwheeledbeast | oh and this is the file http://www.mediafire.com/download/6y8x0ob9g8p7khw/adobe-flashplayer-10.deb |
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| 15:02.54 | kerio | :s |
| 15:03.00 | kerio | isn't there a more legit link? |
| 15:03.07 | kerio | and yeah, it works |
| 15:03.15 | kerio | it's legit |
| 15:03.27 | SAiF | the mediafire one works,, the other one doesnt. |
| 15:03.34 | SAiF | Thanks |
| 15:04.22 | sixwheeledbeast | I believe you follow the instruction on the first link with the file from mediafire |
| 15:04.48 | SAiF | sure thanks |
| 15:05.37 | LauRoman | will maemo automount fat16 formatted cards? |
| 15:06.05 | SAiF | unable to fetch some archives... hexedit |
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| 15:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/hexedit/ |
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| 17:26.49 | LjL | DocScrutinizer05, sorry for not following up earlier but my connection started acting up and then i had to leave for return from holidays."wc -l /usr/sbin/booston" gives 110, it's the modified booston you posted on the rtlsdr thread |
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| 18:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
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| 18:07.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: you might want to augment your /etc/mce/mce.ini to include a LED pattern for vboost |
| 18:08.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | then the indicator LED will show if your USB is providing 5V power or not |
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| 18:25.47 | LjL | DocScrutinizer05: hm i think it's providing the power, because the hub i used has a led, and that led lights up, and so does the led in my rtlsdr dongle for that matter |
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| 19:02.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, just saying |
| 19:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | also just saying: hubs are not always helpful. for example the non-powered ones claim 500mA from host and only provide 100mA to each of 4 downstream ports |
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| 19:10.23 | LjL | DocScrutinizer05: ah, mine is probably like that, has 4 ports. now i'm back home and i can go buy an OTG cable (although i don't think they're very common around stores, maybe best to ebay) |
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| 19:20.56 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why the hell does ubuntu 13 feel the need to enable transparencies and other crap when running live from usb on a fucking netbook? |
| 19:22.45 | kerio | also, why the hell did i run this instead of systemrescuecd? |
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| 19:24.19 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: they do enumerate, though |
| 19:25.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: who does what? |
| 19:25.53 | kerio | hubs |
| 19:25.58 | kerio | even non-powered ones |
| 19:26.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | friggin "broken" hubs? |
| 19:26.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but they don't "work" |
| 19:26.24 | kerio | 100mA for hub, 100mA for mouse |
| 19:26.30 | kerio | :3 |
| 19:26.38 | kerio | ^- that's the face of the mouse |
| 19:26.45 | kerio | because it has enough energy to work, hopefully |
| 19:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly we had to patch out code in musb-hdrc that explicitly disallowed hubs for OTG |
| 19:27.09 | kerio | why would they do that? :s |
| 19:27.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | to make it work at all with H-E-N |
| 19:27.27 | kerio | hell, a powered hub would be amazing with OTG |
| 19:27.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: because OTG is NOT a host |
| 19:27.49 | kerio | ...is OTG *this* big of a joke? |
| 19:27.52 | kerio | no hub support? |
| 19:27.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | true OTG is not even meant to work as a host |
| 19:28.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | OTG is strictly designed to work between two OTG devices |
| 19:28.49 | kerio | isn't it supposed to work between my fancy phone and a usb drive? |
| 19:28.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | and both devices have a whitelist of peers they allow to work with |
| 19:29.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | hubs however are on a explicit blacklist |
| 19:29.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | which we patched out in hostmode kernel, as well as the whitelist check |
| 19:30.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | still doesn't mean H-E-N works just fine with all sorts of hubs |
| 19:30.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | heck, not even normal USB hosts work fine with all sorts of hubs |
| 19:30.38 | kerio | well, we can be sure that once a hub enumerates and works, it'll do what a hub is supposed to do, right? |
| 19:30.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, prolly yes |
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| 19:31.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | and powered hubs are supposed to enum to host as "powered" and not require any much power from host, just as little as a few ampere |
| 19:32.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | and *host* is supposed to take notice of the fact that hub is powered and thus has to allow enum of devices according to what the HUB can provide on downstream ports (usually 500mA / port) |
| 19:33.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless the ENUM happens between host and peripheral, not between HUB and peripheral |
| 19:33.38 | kerio | can usb enumerate more than 500mA? |
| 19:33.50 | kerio | *enumerate for more |
| 19:37.52 | ecc3g | speaking of hubs, anyone seen a hub that doesn't seem to hook +5V straight to the downstream ports? Seems most cheap hubs are this way... |
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| 19:39.04 | kerio | ecc3g: meh, why wouldn't they? |
| 19:41.00 | ecc3g | should have a fuse at least... |
| 19:41.11 | kerio | yolo |
| 19:41.30 | kerio | especially since you're not the poor sod who's going to *use* the hub |
| 19:41.30 | ecc3g | thought most normal host ports can even shut down power if desired as well. |
| 19:43.02 | ecc3g | is it in the spec for a host controller to selectively shut off power for hub ports downstream? |
| 19:49.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: (500) no |
| 19:50.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ecc3g: most cheap hubs have just a common +5V rail for all downstream ports. Better hubs however may switch and even monitor current of each port |
| 19:51.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ecc3g: it's in the spec, sort of. But optional |
| 19:51.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | on "normal PC" windows does, but linux doesn't |
| 19:52.08 | ecc3g | ah okay. I have not seen any "better" hubs, they're all "cheap" so I was wondering :) |
| 19:52.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | for host ports |
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| 20:11.28 | Luke-Jr | What does "SIM card rejected" mean? :p |
| 20:18.31 | SpeedEvil | IMSI bar? |
| 20:18.48 | SpeedEvil | Do you get ti when there is no signal - or is it after contacting the network |
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| 20:47.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: depends on the context I guess |
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| 22:07.54 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: can you manually turn off a port on a compatible hub on linux? or is it nonstandard? |
| 22:08.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, I dunno |
| 22:09.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess the command on low level protocol is standard, though optional |
| 22:09.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if and how this command is exposed on libusb et al API |
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| 23:17.24 | Luke-Jr | SpeedEvil: at boot |
| 23:18.03 | SpeedEvil | Luke-Jr: eyah - i'm wondering if iut's coming from the network or not |
| 23:18.49 | Luke-Jr | I suspect it's some kind of CDMA2000 SIM |
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| 23:27.24 | ShadowJK | There's a /sys invocation that can switch power per port |
| 23:29.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | obvious |
| 23:37.39 | Luke-Jr | ShadowJK: but 99% of ports don't support it |
| 23:37.41 | Luke-Jr | hubs* |
| 23:38.30 | ShadowJK | yes |
| 23:39.11 | ShadowJK | There's a new craze on ebay $1 hubs |
| 23:39.32 | ShadowJK | It's a proper circuit board, but all the components have been removed and replaced with solder blobs |
| 23:40.13 | ShadowJK | it doesn't work, except for stupid shit like usb led lights or whatever |
| 23:43.58 | SpeedEvil | hah |
| 23:44.03 | SpeedEvil | Really? |
| 23:44.42 | SpeedEvil | i wonder if that's the exporter getting screwed by the factory |
| 23:46.42 | ShadowJK | Could be. the case has been semitranslucent, and the picture has showed the board populated |
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