| 00:00.25 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: I find that my file in /etc/sudoers.d/ can't be sourced with update-sudoers |
| 00:00.46 | LaoLang_cool | sorry |
| 00:01.02 | LaoLang_cool | My fault, let me check again, I removed that file to other dir... |
| 00:01.50 | LaoLang_cool | cool, works well, NIN101, thank you! |
| 00:01.59 | NIN101 | yw |
| 00:03.23 | LaoLang_cool | n900 is a so great tool and toy :) |
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| 00:25.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | upd*te-sudoers runs on boot |
| 00:26.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | we could nuke it if we got a recent sudo version though |
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| 00:26.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | alas the one in fremantle doesn't support dirs |
| 00:26.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | like sudoers.d |
| 00:27.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's why we need that update-sudoers nuisance botch |
| 00:30.22 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer51: thanks for explanation :) |
| 00:31.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | take care, friend! editing etc/sudoers file may result in unwanted effects |
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| 00:32.09 | LaoLang_cool | Another question, I try to use some fonts, they are a little huge, so I don't want them to take rootfs size, so I move them in /media/mmc1 and make symbol link into /usr/share/font/, but it can't be recorgnized by xterm |
| 00:32.41 | LaoLang_cool | fc-cache -fv can't solve it |
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| 00:41.14 | luke-jr | FWIW, T-Mobile has 30 minute timeouts on UDP port 500 |
| 00:41.19 | luke-jr | at least over NAT64 |
| 00:41.26 | luke-jr | every other port is 30 seconds |
| 00:42.03 | luke-jr | sets up his Asterisk box to do SIP on port 500 :p |
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| 00:48.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | LaoLang_cool: should work |
| 00:50.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | though I'd place them on MyDocs/.myAddonFonts/* |
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| 01:01.37 | Macer | hm |
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| 02:03.26 | jonwil | is on a mission to figure out everything one would need to do in order to replace ICD with something else (e.g. connman) |
| 02:03.46 | jonwil | either which bits need to be replaced with something new |
| 02:03.59 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 02:03.59 | ShadowJK | you know why icd is closed? |
| 02:04.08 | SpeedEvil | Because nokia are bastards. |
| 02:04.09 | jonwil | nope |
| 02:04.15 | jonwil | heh |
| 02:04.16 | ShadowJK | because it actually works |
| 02:04.26 | SpeedEvil | And yes - ICD works - as designed. |
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| 02:04.37 | SpeedEvil | Any replacement needs to do quite a lot. |
| 02:04.57 | jonwil | what does icd do that connman on meego does not do (or could not be made to do)? |
| 02:05.06 | godtrunks | Hy i have a problem with wtirreco |
| 02:05.38 | godtrunks | It says that it cannot connect to server |
| 02:05.56 | godtrunks | What can i do??? |
| 02:06.13 | godtrunks | Qtirreco |
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| 02:07.48 | godtrunks | Can anyone help me??? |
| 02:08.38 | godtrunks | Pls |
| 02:09.33 | godtrunks | What can i do..... |
| 02:09.34 | SpeedEvil | Sorry, no clue. |
| 02:09.36 | jonwil | I see no reason why (if you are willing to write some new bits to replace things like the network selection dialog and if you are willing to massage conman to talk to e.g. csd-gprs) you couldn't replace icd |
| 02:09.50 | SpeedEvil | And yes. |
| 02:10.10 | SpeedEvil | Also, I note that occasionally my wifi gets wedged, and I need to reboot. |
| 02:10.14 | SpeedEvil | So it doesn't always work |
| 02:10.30 | godtrunks | I already did that |
| 02:10.48 | godtrunks | I have error 3 |
| 02:10.50 | godtrunks | And same error |
| 02:11.07 | SpeedEvil | Err - not you, I was talking to jonwil about something else. |
| 02:11.09 | SpeedEvil | Sorry. |
| 02:11.13 | SpeedEvil | No clue as to qtirrco |
| 02:11.36 | godtrunks | It says cannot connect to destination |
| 02:11.53 | godtrunks | It coud be from a program or something??? |
| 02:15.08 | godtrunks | How i can complete unninstall qtirreco?? |
| 02:15.17 | godtrunks | It remqains the settings |
| 02:15.27 | godtrunks | How can i delete them?? |
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| 02:21.23 | godtrunks | Anyone? ?? |
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| 02:36.43 | DocAvalanche | "we forgive as we forget, as the day is long" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXs9DQch5k |
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| 02:42.01 | DocAvalanche | "as the water flows over the bridge, as we walk on the floodland, as we walk on the water, we forgive" |
| 02:44.44 | DocAvalanche | as the day is long |
| 02:44.50 | DocAvalanche | gnite |
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| 04:52.17 | Macer | well |
| 04:52.33 | Macer | gvmax solved all of my gvoice woes with maemo :) |
| 04:53.00 | Macer | now i just need to be connected to gtalk |
| 04:53.19 | Macer | im sure that uses far less battery than constant gvoice sms polling |
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| 05:24.48 | LaoLang_cool | hi |
| 05:26.18 | LaoLang_cool | How to use fonts not in /usr/share/font/ ? |
| 05:26.42 | robbiethe1st | Um... copy your fonts to /usr/share/font? |
| 05:26.48 | LaoLang_cool | I try to make a symbol link into /usr/share/font, but maemo can't recorgnize it |
| 05:26.59 | LaoLang_cool | Must I copy it into the directory? |
| 05:27.21 | robbiethe1st | It'd be a good idea, yes... symbolic links should work, if you do it right, though |
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| 05:32.26 | iluminator105 | my friends phone has the ppp0 on all the time is that like a back door |
| 05:34.26 | iluminator105 | how do you turn ppp0 off? |
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| 05:50.39 | psycho_oreos | ppp0 is not a backdoor, its more like a phone interface for those legacy dialup programs. These days ppp0 serve nothing more than allowing one to access WAN through that interface and the naming is merely for nostalgic purposes |
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| 09:49.35 | psycho_oreos | or am I mistaken that it is only the moderators that are allowed to edit/remove tags? |
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| 12:45.09 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 12:45.12 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (4d 9h 38m 48s) #harmattan (4d 9h 38m 48s) #meego (4d 9h 38m 48s). Has said a total of 210 messages. Is idling for 22h 44m 10s, last said: 'I want it as much as anyone, but we need to prevent dependency hell :)'. |
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| 12:51.16 | LaoLang_cool | hi! |
| 12:51.38 | LaoLang_cool | How to set fstab? I find that fstab will be auto-regenerated after reboot |
| 12:51.56 | valdyn | LaoLang_cool: its not auto-regenerated |
| 12:52.15 | valdyn | LaoLang_cool: oh sorry, wrong channel |
| 12:52.17 | LaoLang_cool | valdyn: but my setting on it will disappeared |
| 12:52.19 | valdyn | LaoLang_cool: maybe it is |
| 12:52.27 | LaoLang_cool | valdyn: :) |
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| 12:59.13 | NIN101 | /usr/lib/genfstab.awk ; /etc/event.d/rcS-late |
| 13:02.00 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: any simpler way? it's a bit complicated to me :( |
| 13:02.13 | LaoLang_cool | I want to mount fonts dir into /usr/share/fonts/ |
| 13:02.19 | LaoLang_cool | So I can use them for maemo |
| 13:02.35 | LaoLang_cool | symbol link to fonts dir doesn't work |
| 13:03.43 | NIN101 | if not via fstab (not sure if mount -a is called anyway), just create a bootscript with the mount command in /etc/event.d |
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| 13:04.39 | NIN101 | or edit /etc/event.d/rcS-late, or /etc/init.d/rcS |
| 13:07.31 | freemangordon | Pali, ping |
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| 13:35.09 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: the networking condition is so bad here... I tried to add mount /foo /usr/share/fonts/bar -o bind at the end near the 'end script' in rcS-late |
| 13:35.18 | LaoLang_cool | but it doesn't work :( |
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| 13:47.59 | Pali | pong freemangordon |
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| 13:55.25 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: I got disconnected, networking is terriblely bad here. I tried to add /bin/mount /dir /usr/share/fonts/myfont -o bind just before the line of end script, but it doesn't work |
| 13:55.38 | NIN101 | LaoLang_cool: the mounting or your font dir? |
| 13:56.47 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: the line is /bin/mount /media/mmc1/home/font/consolas /usr/share/fonts/consolas -o bind |
| 13:56.59 | NIN101 | oh |
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| 13:57.16 | NIN101 | well /media/mmc1 is not mounted at that point iirc. |
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| 14:01.42 | LaoLang_cool | NIN101: sorry, disconnected again |
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| 14:02.00 | NIN101 | /home/ is mounted at that point, maybe place a folder there. |
| 14:02.05 | LaoLang_cool | the line I added in rcS-late is /bin/mount /media/mmc1/home/font/consolas /usr/share/fonts/consolas -o bind |
| 14:02.15 | NIN101 | <NIN101> well /media/mmc1 is not mounted at that point iirc. |
| 14:02.25 | NIN101 | I have to go now. |
| 14:02.26 | NIN101 | bbl |
| 14:02.47 | LaoLang_cool | nini01 thank you |
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| 14:22.18 | jonwil | is on a mission to identify all the external things one would need to handle in order to replace the ICD daemon with something new |
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| 14:38.58 | Phlogistique | hey |
| 14:39.21 | Phlogistique | are there like, different versions of the n900 with slightly different sizes? I just received one that I think may be a forgery |
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| 14:45.11 | Phlogistique | http://neetwork.net/up/misc/n900_forgery1.jpg <- mine on the left, and the one I just received on the right |
| 14:45.19 | Phlogistique | http://neetwork.net/up/misc/n900_forgery2.jpg |
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| 14:47.18 | dm8tbr | Phlogistique: it's missing the nokia logo... and I bet it doesn't boot maemo |
| 14:48.04 | Phlogistique | hope I'll be able to get back my money, the guy was a top seller on ebay |
| 14:48.29 | jonwil | could have been a stolen/hacked account |
| 14:48.42 | jonwil | someone who stole a top sellers account to sell dodgy crap |
| 14:49.09 | Phlogistique | would make sense. Well, the top seller would still have to give the money back |
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| 14:54.00 | SpeedEvil | No, they wouldn't. |
| 14:54.42 | SpeedEvil | Paypal may in some circumstances refund your money. |
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| 14:59.30 | MohammadAG | you can sue I guess |
| 14:59.49 | SpeedEvil | Good luck suing people overseas. |
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| 15:00.19 | SpeedEvil | First port of call - contact the seller. |
| 15:00.27 | SpeedEvil | Then go through the ebay dispute resolution procedure. |
| 15:00.37 | SpeedEvil | First - what was the auction? |
| 15:02.59 | Phlogistique | http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400241553335#ht_4377wt_946 this |
| 15:03.21 | Phlogistique | (yes 71€. I was naive enough I guess) |
| 15:03.32 | SpeedEvil | yeah - fake |
| 15:03.35 | SpeedEvil | no TV on the real one |
| 15:04.08 | SpeedEvil | Umm - it doesn't even say it's a nokia anywhere on that listing. |
| 15:04.17 | Phlogistique | yes, I just noticed that |
| 15:04.30 | Phlogistique | when I noticed that it doesn't say Nokia on the telephone itself |
| 15:05.08 | nox- | whats that, a `nokla'? |
| 15:05.32 | SpeedEvil | First, find out if it works. |
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| 15:05.38 | Phlogistique | SpeedEvil: why? |
| 15:05.47 | SpeedEvil | If it works, and is as-described, you're up to the goodwill of the seller if they'll accept it back. |
| 15:06.16 | Phlogistique | I'll try it then |
| 15:08.17 | Phlogistique | oh wow |
| 15:08.28 | Phlogistique | "Loading" in blue characters |
| 15:08.38 | Phlogistique | "PONPO" splash screen |
| 15:08.51 | Phlogistique | a faux hildon desktop |
| 15:08.56 | Phlogistique | (it boots much faster though) |
| 15:09.07 | SpeedEvil | Has france switched off analog TV? |
| 15:09.17 | Phlogistique | SpeedEvil: I think so |
| 15:09.44 | Phlogistique | the unlock slider is incredebly stiff |
| 15:10.53 | Phlogistique | there is a buggy light detector |
| 15:11.13 | Phlogistique | turns off the screen when I put my finger on it |
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| 15:12.18 | Phlogistique | Big "Goodbye" in bold blue characters when I turn it off |
| 15:12.21 | Phlogistique | well |
| 15:12.33 | Phlogistique | The interface is in poor French |
| 15:15.47 | kerio | Phlogistique: u mad |
| 15:16.27 | Phlogistique | kerio: this one was for a friend |
| 15:16.43 | kerio | oh, then he mad |
| 15:16.59 | kerio | but really, the seller did nothing wrong |
| 15:17.44 | Phlogistique | kerio: selling forgeries is illegal |
| 15:17.47 | Phlogistique | and morally wrong |
| 15:17.55 | Phlogistique | I think. |
| 15:18.47 | SpeedEvil | It's very similar cosmetically, but it doesn't even say nokia on the listing. |
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| 15:26.30 | jonwil | I see the fake phones on sites like Engadget all the time |
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| 15:44.53 | Phlogistique | oops |
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| 16:50.36 | Phlogistique | "Hi friend, we are not selling Nokia phone. The phone we are selling is a phone made in China. We never say that it is Nokia. And we didn't use the picture from Nokia. We just take the photo by ourselves and the photo you see is exactly the one you have received. May be you misunderstand that it is a Nokia phone. As you can see the price is so low. It is just a phone with normal function. It worth its low price. Anyway, you may think about it. We offered 14-d |
| 16:51.33 | javispedro | jonwil: for some reason I think they use some code from Symbian in there |
| 16:52.25 | jonwil | havent seen anything to suggest they do |
| 16:53.04 | javispedro | I always thought why they went with osso-wlan-security/eapd |
| 16:53.20 | jonwil | hmmm, havent looked at eapd yet |
| 16:53.37 | javispedro | s/thought/wondered |
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| 18:56.18 | smhar | when I run the update manager I see no updates available when I do apt-get upgrade I see 65 upgrades. why is this? |
| 18:59.15 | Sicelo | which packages show up as updgradeable via apt? |
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| 19:03.21 | smhar | camera-ui, clean900, hildon-*, libqt*, modest*, oss* , maemo-* and others |
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| 19:04.18 | Pali | ping X-Fade |
| 19:04.30 | Pali | ~seen X-Fade |
| 19:04.34 | infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo (4d 15h 58m 10s) #harmattan (4d 15h 58m 10s) #meego (4d 15h 58m 10s). Has said a total of 210 messages. Is idling for 1d 5h 3m 32s, last said: 'I want it as much as anyone, but we need to prevent dependency hell :)'. |
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| 20:09.14 | eichi | very strange. after I had information, that there is a new version of power kernel (i did not install it) my desktop is very slow and ofter it stopps half the way on closing/opening effect etc |
| 20:09.39 | eichi | I did not install anything the last days. and there is also enaught memory free. reboot does not help. |
| 20:10.11 | robbiethe1st | Could be your optfs needs fsck run... |
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| 20:14.01 | psycho_oreos | I wouldn't think that just because you received notifications about a new power kernel and you refuse to install it you would get a sluggish response from the device. I'd give what robbiethe1st's suggestion a run, maybe a restore from bm or reflash would be in order. If it isn't the issue with optfs being fragmented it could be some program that is slowing the device down. |
| 20:14.24 | jargon- | is there an SSU update available for maemo5? |
| 20:14.41 | jargon- | i'm seeing an indicator on my n900,but nothing on the news section of maemo.org |
| 20:14.44 | psycho_oreos | robbiethe1st, btw I tried your premade rootfs image with bm, it made my device reboot after 5-10 seconds of initial bootup |
| 20:14.46 | eichi | the strange thing is, the cpu is not heavy load if it freezes half the way |
| 20:15.12 | psycho_oreos | jargon-, there is security update which bumps your version to PR1.3.1 |
| 20:15.26 | jargon- | psycho_oreos: i see. ok thanks |
| 20:15.56 | psycho_oreos | also there were threads about it as well |
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| 20:18.39 | jonne | i just got 'malfunctioning, device shutdown in 10s' :s |
| 20:19.05 | jonne | was just about to upgrade the CSSU |
| 20:19.49 | NIN101 | wtf? |
| 20:20.04 | jonne | starts up normally, though |
| 20:20.07 | psycho_oreos | I don't think this is an issue with CSSU, its probably something that you did last which makes the device now un-bootable, it could be something to do with kernel or some experimental packages you installed |
| 20:20.44 | jonne | and looks like the upgrade worked |
| 20:20.46 | jonne | weird |
| 20:21.52 | eichi | robbiethe1st: where is the optfs thing I have to fsck? cant find it |
| 20:22.12 | psycho_oreos | eichi, you'll need backupmenu in the very least |
| 20:22.42 | DocScrutinizer | eichi: /opt is in fact a dir on /home |
| 20:22.56 | DocScrutinizer | so it's /home that needs fsck, if any |
| 20:25.52 | DocScrutinizer | rumour has it CSSU-T17 becomes available today. Seems some dust still has to settle before things stabilize around this update |
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| 20:30.20 | eichi | its really seems that there is a problem with the refreshing of the screen. because often parts if picture hands. why is /var/log/dpkg.log empty? Thought I can find information about last changes there |
| 20:30.29 | eichi | *hangs |
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| 20:49.30 | NIN101 | eichi: had for a short time the same issues earlier today. |
| 20:49.36 | eichi | strange after deleting digiaatscene and ytube and reboot, it works again |
| 20:49.44 | jargon- | is there a problem with the nokia repos? whenever i start the pkgmgr they fail to update |
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| 20:50.02 | jargon- | and now the CSSU update download keeps failing at 32KB |
| 20:50.15 | NIN101 | jargon-: lol |
| 20:50.21 | NIN101 | wanted to update miniature |
| 20:50.28 | NIN101 | also failed at 32 KB. |
| 20:50.35 | jargon- | weird |
| 20:50.45 | NIN101 | indeed |
| 20:51.08 | DocScrutinizer | meh, Nokia repos temprarily flawed isn't an unheard thing |
| 20:51.20 | jargon- | DocScrutinizer: aah ok |
| 20:51.21 | NIN101 | miniature isn't on nokia repos |
| 20:51.22 | DocScrutinizer | esp at weekends, thanks to murphy |
| 20:51.37 | jargon- | eddie? |
| 20:52.19 | DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law |
| 20:53.03 | jargon- | aaah i see |
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| 20:58.10 | NIN101 | jargon-: actually, download itself works, just fails to update. I was confused. grml. head->table. |
| 21:00.58 | jargon- | NIN101: i'll try it again later |
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| 21:06.05 | Pali | X-Fade, maemo package interface still not see two new versions of kernel-power, please look at it |
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| 21:12.37 | smhar | when I run the update manager I see no updates available when I do apt-get upgrade I see 65 upgrades. why is this? |
| 21:14.42 | psycho_oreos | probably user/hidden packages or packages being held back |
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| 21:15.17 | smhar | so should I just update with apt-get upgrade? I mean is it safe? |
| 21:15.41 | SpeedEvil | upgrade may break stuff. |
| 21:15.46 | SpeedEvil | update is safe |
| 21:15.49 | SpeedEvil | IIRC |
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| 21:16.04 | SpeedEvil | or maybe I'm confused again. |
| 21:16.10 | smhar | SpeedEvil, ?? |
| 21:16.36 | SpeedEvil | I may be thinking of dist-upgrade |
| 21:16.37 | smhar | you have to update apt first in order to upgrade. updating |
| 21:16.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | nah, SpeedEvil is right |
| 21:17.08 | smhar | docscrutinizer could you please explain? |
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| 21:17.22 | psycho_oreos | update just refreshes apt lists |
| 21:17.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | dist-upgrade is guaranteed to brea stuff while upgrade has reasonable ptential to do so |
| 21:18.23 | MohammadAG | upgrade is usually safe |
| 21:19.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | nah, upgrademis unusually unsafe |
| 21:19.36 | MohammadAG | why? |
| 21:19.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | see backscroll |
| 21:20.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | it is not safe per se to upgrade 65 pkgs that don't show up in HAM |
| 21:20.58 | smhar | so what is the best way to update my N900? |
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| 21:21.21 | psycho_oreos | using HAM and forgetting about the 65 packages |
| 21:21.25 | DocScrutinizer | open HAM, click on "update" |
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| 21:21.32 | smhar | camera-ui, clean900, hildon-*, libqt*, modest*, oss* , maemo-* and others are among the list of 'upgradeable' packages by apt-get |
| 21:22.05 | DocScrutinizer | yes, and al those are highly critical regarding compatibility with other stuff that might not get upgraded |
| 21:22.15 | Sicelo | what is your maemo version smhar? |
| 21:23.39 | DocScrutinizer | quite usual scenario: you installed a pkg from -devel or -testing, so the repo got added to your catalog list, and now shows updates for all those pkgs you haven't installed from those "unsafe" repos |
| 21:24.11 | smhar | Sicelo, 20.2010.36-2 with SSU 20.2010.36-2maemo16.8 |
| 21:25.53 | DocScrutinizer | smhar: you probably see an update to CSSU 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1 shortly, and that will come with a lot of updated pkgs |
| 21:26.40 | DocScrutinizer | Tmaemo1 is actually CSSU17 |
| 21:27.11 | DocScrutinizer | or *maemo17 according to pld naming scheme |
| 21:27.16 | DocScrutinizer | old* |
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| 21:29.15 | smhar | great, is there a log of what is updated somewhere? |
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| 21:30.16 | jonne | are there any plans to have more apps support portrait mode in cssu? |
| 21:30.29 | jonne | like modest and the contact app?µ |
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| 21:38.57 | jonne | ctrl-shift-r apparently enables rotation, but how do i make it permanent? |
| 21:39.59 | psycho_oreos | I wouldn't do that unless you want to see many screwed up portrait modes |
| 21:40.39 | jonne | i'd just want it to be permanent for modest |
| 21:41.02 | jonne | and whatever other apps apparently have proper portrait mode that is disabled |
| 21:41.41 | psycho_oreos | there aren't many, unless the maintainer has either made a portrait version most programs aren't |
| 21:41.59 | jonne | modest and contacts seem to be ok |
| 21:42.22 | jonne | and kweetheur does portrait mode without needing to ctrl-shift-r |
| 21:42.55 | psycho_oreos | hmm I think there's a whitelist file within the latest released version of CSSU which may allow automatic rotation. I could be mistaken otoh |
| 21:43.09 | psycho_oreos | so does fapman, but those are usually 3rd party softwares |
| 21:43.13 | jonne | that would be awesome |
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| 21:52.27 | jonne | i saw stuff in the forums about a whitelist in transitions.ini, but i guess it hasn't made it into cssu |
| 21:53.07 | MohammadAG | it's in the CSSU |
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| 21:55.05 | jonne | how do i enable it? |
| 21:55.16 | jonne | just add the whitelist line? |
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| 21:59.59 | jonne | cool, that actually works |
| 22:01.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | it damn better does |
| 22:05.08 | Macer | hi |
| 22:05.30 | jonne | now i just need to figure out which apps are named what |
| 22:05.53 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
| 22:06.04 | psycho_oreos | dpkg -l && dpkg -L usually helps |
| 22:06.45 | DocScrutinizer | a proper tool to print the real name of the process which currrently hold focus would be way smarter |
| 22:08.10 | DocScrutinizer | maybe a nice improvenet to get a key-shortcut for doing that in MHD taskswitcher? |
| 22:08.20 | DocScrutinizer | improvement* |
| 22:08.42 | jonne | i tried top, but there's just so much running i can't tell |
| 22:09.16 | psycho_oreos | top only shows which process uses the most amounts of system resource, usually sorted by CPU% |
| 22:09.27 | jonne | yeah, i know |
| 22:09.41 | jonne | usually your gui app should be somewhere on top |
| 22:09.44 | DocScrutinizer | "press shift-?, then click on any of the task icons to copy the tasks real commandline name to clipboard" |
| 22:10.21 | DocScrutinizer | sounds good to me, we should get sth like that |
| 22:11.01 | jonne | but apparently some apps don't show up there, like the conversations thing |
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| 22:14.31 | jonne | ok, conversations is apparently rtcom-messaging-ui |
| 22:14.55 | jonne | I might actually be able to use this thing with one hand now |
| 22:15.09 | DocScrutinizer | maybe /usr/sbin/browserd -s 1535 -n RTComMessagingServer |
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| 22:19.22 | jonne | i put rtcom-messaging-ui in the whitelist and it worked instantly |
| 22:19.43 | jonne | i'll play around and see what other apps can do portrait |
| 22:20.05 | jonne | although messaging-ui is a bit weird as it is, right now |
| 22:20.26 | jonne | i have horz scroll in the actual conversation |
| 22:20.40 | jonne | but this is possibly fixable with css, right? |
| 22:22.56 | jonne | lol, the photo app certainly doesn't handle rotation well |
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| 22:28.31 | sq-one | whats the easies way to crosscompile a simple c-programm for the n900? I saw that gcc has arm support? Any advise? |
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| 22:31.02 | psycho_oreos | sq-one, scratchbox, yes you can compile on N900 as well |
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| 22:40.29 | sq-one | okay I'll have a look at it. thx! |
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