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| 00:28.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 00:28.20 | infobot | DocScrutinizer51: :) |
| 00:28.32 | Robot101 | evening |
| 00:28.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | hi |
| 00:28.46 | logisist | -botsnack |
| 00:28.54 | Robot101 | should be tucked up in bed but his train was delayed 2 hours :( |
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| 00:29.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh |
| 00:29.24 | logisist | Robot101: are you on your Maemo device? |
| 00:29.49 | Robot101 | no I'm on my Thinkpad X200s |
| 00:29.52 | Robot101 | my N900 is charging :) |
| 00:30.22 | logisist | boooo |
| 00:30.29 | logisist | err |
| 00:30.33 | logisist | I'm on my Dell E6510 |
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| 00:44.30 | Termana | morning |
| 00:44.55 | Robot101 | moin |
| 00:47.21 | TiagoTiago | Is there somthing like the UDK (the free game development kit for Unreal engine) for the N900? |
| 00:48.42 | luke-jr | TiagoTiago: you mean gratis? or is it actually free? |
| 00:49.10 | TiagoTiago | you don't have to pay, but some parts of the engine are kept binary only |
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| 00:50.11 | TiagoTiago | If you wanna peek into the closed bits you gotta pay |
| 00:52.47 | Termana | TiagoTiago, then the answer is gratis |
| 00:52.47 | TiagoTiago | Some of the key features i have in mind when i say somthing like UDK, would be things like already ready for multiplayer, easy to make physical things (vehicles included), easy to test what you make (like, you edit the level, wire so,e physics and AI scripts, select a player mechanics script and hit a button and you're there playing just like when its deployed) |
| 00:53.01 | TiagoTiago | etc |
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| 01:01.57 | luke-jr | TiagoTiago: so if you pay, it's free? |
| 01:02.10 | luke-jr | or still non-free? |
| 01:02.43 | TiagoTiago | there is still a proprietary license on the source code you get to see if you pay |
| 01:04.05 | TiagoTiago | http://www.udk.com/licensing |
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| 01:07.09 | TiagoTiago | http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/DevelopmentKitFAQ.html#Licensing |
| 01:07.48 | TiagoTiago | more specificily "Q: How does this differ from an Unreal Engine 3 license?" |
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| 01:21.32 | DocScrutinizer | burps unreally |
| 01:22.22 | TiagoTiago | reading there it refreshed my memory, its only free for non0comercial use (they even want in on the ads reveneu if you own the site that hosts the game files) |
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| 01:23.29 | DocScrutinizer | how's about ads *in* the game? losers |
| 01:24.06 | TiagoTiago | i'm pretty sure that is covered somewhere in the license as well |
| 01:24.19 | DocScrutinizer | seem to have been living under a stone while 2nd life seen daylight and died |
| 01:24.28 | TiagoTiago | lol |
| 01:24.42 | b-man_ | hmm, there's a few typos in some of the examples in this C programming book LOL |
| 01:24.59 | TiagoTiago | lol |
| 01:26.08 | b-man_ | title - "C Primer Plus - user-friendly guide to the c programing language - revised edition" :) |
| 01:26.22 | DocScrutinizer | shoots down pink " TiagoTiago " on laptop's screen with a 150mW green laser |
| 01:26.59 | DocScrutinizer | NOOOOOO dead pixel :-/ |
| 01:27.12 | b-man_ | DocScrutinizer: i have worse :( |
| 01:27.13 | TiagoTiago | what? |
| 01:27.41 | b-man_ | DocScrutinizer: i have at least 3, plus a small horizontal line is starting to appear on my screen |
| 01:27.46 | TiagoTiago | green laser affects liquid crystals? |
| 01:28.09 | b-man_ | (on my N900, btw) |
| 01:28.11 | DocScrutinizer | TiagoTiago: I'm not going to try it, just kidding |
| 01:28.34 | TiagoTiago | i see |
| 01:28.45 | DocScrutinizer | b-man_: warranty |
| 01:29.52 | DocScrutinizer | I seem to recall L1&2 service manual and specs require zero dead pixels for a device to pass QA |
| 01:30.08 | b-man_ | DocScrutinizer: i have to send mine to some stupid service center in Alabama which will charge me $180.00 just to look at it :( |
| 01:30.19 | b-man_ | and it'd be gone for 4 weeks |
| 01:30.21 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 01:30.30 | DocScrutinizer | move to a sane country |
| 01:30.41 | b-man_ | i wish i could XD |
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| 01:31.08 | DocScrutinizer | USA is so.... :X |
| 01:31.28 | b-man_ | indeed :( |
| 01:31.57 | TiagoTiago | I wonder if anyone else has updated to pr1.3 using Synaptic |
| 01:31.58 | DocScrutinizer | everybody over there seems to think USA is king of the world, and yet you need no enemies |
| 01:32.04 | b-man_ | the government is going down hill |
| 01:32.29 | b-man_ | too many f*cked up politicians |
| 01:32.53 | DocScrutinizer | one word: moore |
| 01:33.10 | TiagoTiago | Somthing big is coming, i can feel it, and it worries me deeply... |
| 01:33.18 | b-man_ | indeed |
| 01:33.40 | DocScrutinizer | s/word/name |
| 01:33.51 | b-man_ | wouldn't be surprised to see a revolution in his lifetime at this rate |
| 01:34.16 | DocScrutinizer | wait until oil peak passed by |
| 01:34.34 | DocScrutinizer | then armour your doors and windows |
| 01:35.00 | DocScrutinizer | peak oil is the term |
| 01:35.20 | Robot101 | http://www.worldometers.info/ |
| 01:36.08 | TiagoTiago | I used to think the biggest thing to happen in this century was gonna be the technological singularity, but i started to fear somthing much less utopic but of similar level of impact is nearing |
| 01:36.35 | DocScrutinizer | Robot101: nice :-D |
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| 01:38.39 | DocScrutinizer | WAAAH - "emails sent today" |
| 01:39.17 | TiagoTiago | that piece of data is meaningless without the count of spams received today |
| 01:40.55 | TiagoTiago | "Road traffic accident fatalities this year" is way slower than i expected... |
| 01:42.43 | DocScrutinizer | wonders what's this site's notion of "today" |
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| 01:45.00 | ieatlint | i'm impressed at how slowly the "internet users" count is growing |
| 01:46.04 | DocScrutinizer | >> 331,086,968,809 World spending on illegal drugs this year (US$)<< This HAS to change! LEGALIZE! |
| 01:46.32 | b-man_ | "1,155,865,858 Overweight people in the world right now" XD |
| 01:47.01 | DocScrutinizer | I missed the underweight |
| 01:47.07 | DocScrutinizer | like me |
| 01:47.26 | ieatlint | hmmm... 42 years of oil left at current rate of consumption... |
| 01:47.32 | b-man_ | yup |
| 01:47.33 | ieatlint | sounds like it won't be my problem |
| 01:47.41 | ieatlint | go fills his car up |
| 01:47.44 | b-man_ | it will be mine lol |
| 01:48.09 | DocScrutinizer | actually most amazing fact is there's ore alcohol fatalities than suicides |
| 01:48.19 | TiagoTiago | is the "gas" there gasoline or natural gas? |
| 01:48.20 | Buee | b-man_: was trying your walkthrough for Ubu on the N810 and during the process, my N810 won't boot now |
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| 01:48.27 | ieatlint | blame china, we were much better off until they went and decided they wanted to be a developed country too |
| 01:48.34 | ieatlint | TiagoTiago: natural gas |
| 01:48.45 | b-man_ | Buee: the packages in that tutorial are extremely old |
| 01:48.56 | Buee | I bet, so is the device lol |
| 01:49.00 | DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: don't wake the dragon! |
| 01:49.07 | Buee | Tried NITDroid too, that won't work either |
| 01:49.13 | ieatlint | awesome, 38m abortions this year |
| 01:49.23 | ieatlint | DocScrutinizer: :P |
| 01:49.48 | b-man_ | Buee: did you ask anyone about your problems at #nitdroid? |
| 01:50.03 | TiagoTiago | but no count of children abandoned due to unwanted pregnancies |
| 01:50.07 | DocScrutinizer | China and India will bust the globe in no time |
| 01:50.17 | Buee | Yeah, tons of people in there, not a single one responding. I'm betting most people don't care about the N810 and are all on the N900 now |
| 01:50.17 | TiagoTiago | that seems biased |
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| 01:50.31 | ieatlint | only 1.488m people have died from alcohol this year? |
| 01:50.33 | ieatlint | that seems low |
| 01:50.40 | b-man_ | Buee: unfortunately it seems that way |
| 01:50.52 | DocScrutinizer | Buee: making friends? |
| 01:51.19 | TiagoTiago | alsoo there is no counter for reforestation |
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| 01:51.22 | Buee | DocScrutinizer: Depends on how difficult I am to get this thing to boot again I guess |
| 01:51.30 | DocScrutinizer | pets his N810 (the active one of the couple) |
| 01:52.05 | Buee | b-man_: the thing that gets me is I've reflashed with the known working image and it boot loops |
| 01:52.27 | TiagoTiago | messed up boot loader? |
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| 01:53.09 | Buee | TiagoTiago: Dunno. How can I tell |
| 01:53.26 | TiagoTiago | no idea |
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| 01:54.13 | Buee | TiagoTiago: I was hoping a flash would unf*** anything I did |
| 01:54.13 | DocScrutinizer | Buee: get a fresh battery, reflash |
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| 01:54.50 | DocScrutinizer | Buee: if no success, sell battery on ebay and spare parts N810n as well |
| 01:56.29 | Buee | So no pearls of wisdom from some of the best N810 modders eh? |
| 01:56.44 | DocScrutinizer | Buee: honestly, aiui if you nuked your NOLO on N8x0 you're pretty screwed. Get it to a center and coldflash |
| 01:57.19 | DocScrutinizer | Buee: nevertheless odds are your problems are related to a worn out battery |
| 01:57.22 | TiagoTiago | try tmo as well |
| 01:57.46 | b-man_ | Buee: have you tried reflashing again? |
| 01:57.51 | Buee | DocScrutinizer: Battery was absolutely fine until I rebooted |
| 01:58.00 | DocScrutinizer | says who? |
| 01:58.19 | Buee | b-man_: Oh yeah, numerous times. Even did the NITDroid image too and back to Nokia |
| 01:58.28 | b-man_ | DocScrutinizer: if it at least starts up, it may not be the botloader |
| 01:58.37 | b-man_ | hmm |
| 01:58.46 | DocScrutinizer | flashing might fail on waek battery |
| 01:58.55 | DocScrutinizer | failed flashing causes bootloop |
| 01:59.01 | b-man_ | Buee: was the battery full? |
| 01:59.07 | Buee | I got the Nokia screen with green type across the screen |
| 01:59.10 | DocScrutinizer | bootloop causes charging failure |
| 01:59.12 | Buee | b-man_: Yes |
| 01:59.16 | DocScrutinizer | you see the circle? |
| 01:59.41 | luke-jr | Buee: the green type is R&D mode bootmenu |
| 02:00.15 | Buee | No Circle. Nokia logo with an image of a tablet with a wrench over it underneath the logo and the USB logo in the upper right hand corner |
| 02:00.19 | luke-jr | Buee: how are you charging your battery? |
| 02:00.21 | b-man_ | Buee: flasher-3.5 -f -F *.bin -R? |
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| 02:00.57 | b-man_ | Buee: what flags are you using? |
| 02:01.39 | Buee | b-man_: flasher-3.5 -f -F *.bin -R got me "Invalid FIASCO file header" |
| 02:01.51 | luke-jr | actually, why can't N8x0 flash with power plugged in? |
| 02:01.56 | Buee | b-man_: was using -f -k |
| 02:02.05 | DocScrutinizer | Buee: reflash! |
| 02:02.17 | b-man_ | -k flashes kernel |
| 02:02.30 | b-man_ | you need a full reflash |
| 02:02.48 | TiagoTiago | any chance you know how i can set a deadzone for the accelerometer on Duke Nukem 3D (on the N900) ? |
| 02:03.18 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: it can, it's just you need to hold 'u' when it ""boots"", and it boots when power applied |
| 02:03.38 | b-man_ | Buee: did you follow any of this? http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware |
| 02:03.57 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: something along that line, in my book |
| 02:04.10 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: I don't recall having to press anyhting |
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| 02:04.39 | DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: that's because you hadn't PSU plugged :-D |
| 02:04.48 | luke-jr | I must have⦠|
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| 02:04.51 | luke-jr | my battery is fried |
| 02:05.04 | luke-jr | at least, BME forces a shutdown immediately if I unplug it |
| 02:05.09 | DocScrutinizer | dissect xloader & NOLO |
| 02:05.47 | DocScrutinizer | it's all about entering flashing mode instead of booting kernel |
| 02:05.57 | luke-jr | oh |
| 02:06.05 | luke-jr | that, I just run flasher before plugging it in |
| 02:06.25 | DocScrutinizer | there's no *technical* reason why you can't have it hooked up to wallwart |
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| 02:06.57 | TiagoTiago | then how does the new firmware gets there? |
| 02:07.18 | DocScrutinizer | TiagoTiago: by telepathy |
| 02:07.25 | TiagoTiago | lol |
| 02:08.08 | Termana | DocScrutinizer, just read the log. You don't press U on the N8x0 like you do on the N900. You just plug the USB cable in |
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| 02:08.32 | DocScrutinizer | no, you actually hold "home" button |
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| 02:09.16 | DocScrutinizer | which is N8x0's 'u' |
| 02:10.55 | DocScrutinizer | and I'm absolutely sure I read *somewhere*: "you can plug in powersupply after flashing started" |
| 02:12.12 | DocScrutinizer | see, as long as there's a power source it's _impossible_ to really switch off the N8x0 |
| 02:13.33 | DocScrutinizer | MEH! |
| 02:14.14 | DocScrutinizer | *hates* being urged to kill browsers that gone apeshit and eat 90% CPU |
| 02:15.06 | DocScrutinizer | hooray for Adobe & flash-fsckit |
| 02:15.17 | Buee | b-man_: That got it this time. Anyone have any recommendations for the OS on this thing besides Maemo. Tried Ubuntu, obviously no success there. Tried NITDroid, but I think the 8GB SD card is my problem there |
| 02:15.21 | Termana | DocScrutinizer, that's no different on the N900, unless it's completely dead |
| 02:15.34 | DocScrutinizer | yo |
| 02:15.50 | DocScrutinizer | modulo you got no barrel jack on N900 |
| 02:16.32 | Termana | No, but you said power source |
| 02:16.33 | DocScrutinizer | which actually is one of the major brainfucks |
| 02:17.09 | DocScrutinizer | credits and flames go to China and EU |
| 02:17.20 | DocScrutinizer | and USB-cert |
| 02:17.28 | Termana | If you plug the N900 into a wallwart or USB, how is that not a "power source"? :P |
| 02:17.55 | DocScrutinizer | nobody said it's not |
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| 02:18.17 | TiagoTiago | i hate how some fullscreen games trap the N900 if you do anything to come out of it without actualy closing it, leaving holding the pwoer button down as the only way to regain control of the device |
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| 02:18.35 | SpeedEvil | camkeyd |
| 02:18.39 | SpeedEvil | or something similar |
| 02:18.44 | DocScrutinizer | lo SpeedEvil |
| 02:18.52 | SpeedEvil | lo. |
| 02:19.08 | SpeedEvil | Night all. |
| 02:19.10 | TiagoTiago | The games in question eon't let you click on anything outside of it |
| 02:19.14 | TiagoTiago | won't* |
| 02:19.17 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: cya |
| 02:19.44 | DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: tomorrow I'll think of you while eating my raspberry bread |
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| 02:19.57 | TiagoTiago | cya |
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| 02:21.24 | DocScrutinizer | TiagoTiago: ctrl-BS ?? |
| 02:21.39 | TiagoTiago | nope, keys also inutilized, except for the power button |
| 02:21.50 | DocScrutinizer | eeew |
| 02:22.03 | DocScrutinizer | ssh; killall |
| 02:22.08 | TiagoTiago | two games that mess it up like this are OpenArena and Duke Nukem 3D |
| 02:22.15 | DocScrutinizer | apt-get --nuke |
| 02:22.52 | TiagoTiago | hm, ok, next time i'll trying SSH (i hope it isn't when i away from a computer i can do that with |
| 02:22.57 | DocScrutinizer | ~xyawn |
| 02:22.57 | infobot | i heard xyawn is big coffee |
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| 02:23.05 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, really |
| 02:23.15 | DocScrutinizer | ~xyawn |
| 02:23.15 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, xyawn is coffee |
| 02:23.33 | DocScrutinizer | shrugs and prepares a cup |
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| 02:25.07 | TiagoTiago | woah, that was trippy, i yawned and as the yawn was dieing some vehicle passed on a nearby street, the frequency of the noise from the vehicle seemed to resonate with the room and with my sinuses, it felt like my yawn continued to sound even after i stopped yawning; only after the vehicle moved away enough that i understood what was going on |
| 02:27.20 | Termana | TiagoTiago, if you just tap the power button (not hold) the normal power menu will come up and you can press "Kill current task" |
| 02:27.30 | DocScrutinizer | where's it growing? |
| 02:27.44 | TiagoTiago | can't click on anything |
| 02:27.53 | TiagoTiago | that includes the power button menu |
| 02:28.06 | Termana | Hmm |
| 02:28.12 | Termana | well I have a better solution anyway |
| 02:28.22 | TiagoTiago | It seems the games trap mouse and keys even while not focused |
| 02:28.26 | Termana | Don't play crappy games |
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| 02:28.43 | Termana | Problem solved |
| 02:28.46 | TiagoTiago | lol |
| 02:29.22 | DocScrutinizer | Myrtti: now what is this? :-D |
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| 02:32.23 | DocScrutinizer | wonders idly if it's been >20 or >30 years he last time had such powerful psychedelic substances |
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| 02:33.50 | DocScrutinizer | siping my coffee |
| 02:34.57 | DocScrutinizer | glaring on T900 with that PR1.3 kernel. Powered down for the first time in 6 months |
| 02:36.17 | DocScrutinizer | patting |
| 02:36.30 | DocScrutinizer | petting IroN900 |
| 02:36.46 | DocScrutinizer | the one with PR1.2 |
| 02:36.46 | Proteous | ... |
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| 02:45.10 | DocScrutinizer | wonders how to end a call by pressing/engaging either power-, or cam-, or lock-switch |
| 02:46.17 | DocScrutinizer | screen with all that rotation transitions and proximity locking is too slow for what I usually want from a phone |
| 02:46.40 | DocScrutinizer | kill call has to be less than 500ms |
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| 02:51.01 | ebzzry_ | I can't seem to enter flasher mode. I'm using bootmenu. |
| 02:57.31 | ebzzry | Does R&D mode automatically enable flashing mode? |
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| 02:59.15 | b-man_ | ebzzry: you have to hold down the 'u' key while the device is off and then plug in the USB cable |
| 02:59.37 | b-man_ | then your device will enter flasher mode |
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| 03:14.43 | TiagoTiago | stop using portrait mode? |
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| 03:16.33 | TiagoTiago | also, are transitions that bad even if you set them to really low values? |
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| 03:18.47 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: use the slider screen-unlock thing |
| 03:18.53 | luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: then hit end w/o rotate |
| 03:19.02 | luke-jr | TiagoTiago: you can't really disable portrait mode |
| 03:19.15 | TiagoTiago | set it to not rotate? |
| 03:19.28 | luke-jr | it doesn't respect the setting most of hte time |
| 03:19.55 | TiagoTiago | change display orientation from automatic to landscape |
| 03:20.00 | TiagoTiago | really? |
| 03:20.02 | luke-jr | really. |
| 03:20.15 | TiagoTiago | that sucks :( |
| 03:20.18 | luke-jr | yes. |
| 03:21.00 | TiagoTiago | how cna i repro it not respecting the orientation setting? |
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| 03:25.31 | ebzzry | b-man_: I'm aware of that, but somehow my device won't go into flasher mode. I'm using R&D mode. |
| 03:25.51 | ebzzry | b-man_: Also The bootmenu shows |
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| 03:39.36 | ebzzry | After flashing PR 1.3, does it really take long for the 6 dots to appear? |
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| 03:45.19 | TiagoTiago | i did it over the air (well, with Synaptic), it didn't even asked me to reboot, i did it anyway just in case, and i didn't notice anything different |
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| 04:00.31 | ebzzry | What does cold flashing do? |
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| 04:19.32 | TiagoTiago | I think it is flashing without the help of the NOLO, i could be wrong |
| 04:19.53 | TiagoTiago | ~cold flashing |
| 04:20.14 | TiagoTiago | balls :\ |
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| 04:59.04 | pigeon | is glGetString(GL_VERSION) supposed to not work on the n900? |
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| 05:26.58 | pigeon | never mind |
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| 06:44.42 | Xhinde | Hello |
| 06:45.30 | pigeon | actually, it seems to always return null... |
| 06:47.00 | Xhinde | If i may ask. Is there a way to use the external volume bottuns as "next" in the player. For example, one click makes volume go up and down and holding it down makes it go to the next song |
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| 06:51.32 | pigeon | glGetString(GL_VERSION) gives me null for gles1 |
| 06:51.34 | pigeon | gles2 works |
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| 07:00.50 | pigeon | ah |
| 07:00.53 | pigeon | found my problem |
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| 07:04.02 | Xhinde | at least one of us did |
| 07:04.41 | pigeon | heh |
| 07:04.57 | pigeon | need to link against libGLES_CM/libGLESv2, not libGL |
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| 07:17.05 | iksaif | Hi, anyone with some time to install/test a package quickly ? :) |
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| 08:14.11 | ruskie | nice... flashing to uboot+kernel image was a success |
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| 08:17.30 | ebzzry | Does a full flash install a new nolo? |
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| 08:19.31 | Noobmonk3y | morning alls :) |
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| 08:24.33 | Noobmonk3y | bacon ? ;) |
| 08:24.49 | VladNistor | i'll have some :) |
| 08:24.57 | Noobmonk3y | w000p that normally wakes people up ;) |
| 08:25.12 | VladNistor | ;) |
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| 08:25.34 | kerio | MOAR BACON |
| 08:25.53 | Noobmonk3y | mooooarning kerio :) |
| 08:26.46 | kerio | morning |
| 08:26.46 | Noobmonk3y | meh, spose it is still early :P |
| 08:26.53 | kerio | 10.26am is early? :O |
| 08:28.40 | Noobmonk3y | 9.26 is :P |
| 08:28.49 | Noobmonk3y | on a saturday! |
| 08:29.10 | ebzzry | Hello everyone, I need some help. I think I bricked my device. |
| 08:29.16 | kerio | ebzzry: reflash |
| 08:29.22 | kerio | if it fails, nokia care center |
| 08:29.24 | ebzzry | kerio: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=857370 |
| 08:30.01 | kerio | reflash 1.2 |
| 08:30.16 | ebzzry | kerio: I did that, but the devices still behaves the same. =( |
| 08:30.24 | kerio | lies |
| 08:30.31 | ebzzry | kerio: I am at least 6 hours away to the closest Nokia Care Center. |
| 08:30.36 | kerio | reflash the eMMC too |
| 08:30.43 | ebzzry | kerio: Let me try that. |
| 08:30.51 | Noobmonk3y | ooo |
| 08:30.51 | kerio | flash fiasco and emmc |
| 08:31.06 | Noobmonk3y | reflashing the emms, normall sorts out the bricked from the non bricked :) |
| 08:31.06 | kerio | if it still fails it's not pr1.3-related, it's hardware |
| 08:31.10 | ruskie | ebzzry, yeah |
| 08:31.20 | kerio | without booting between those |
| 08:31.28 | ebzzry | kerio: Does that mean I'll have to omit the "-R" flag to flasher-3.5 so that the device won't reboot? |
| 08:31.29 | ruskie | ebzzry, it reflashes nolo |
| 08:31.41 | kerio | ebzzry: on the first one, yeah |
| 08:31.53 | ebzzry | kerio: Sweet, let me do that. |
| 08:31.55 | kerio | put the -R on the second command so it does reboot |
| 08:32.10 | ruskie | generally I've read it's a good idea to ommit -R always |
| 08:32.26 | alterego | indeed |
| 08:32.29 | ebzzry | ruskie: I'll take note of that. |
| 08:32.48 | ebzzry | Then that means the documentation for flashing should be updated to reflect those statements. |
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| 08:33.22 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: well done for volunteering ;) |
| 08:33.37 | ebzzry | Noobmonk3y: hehe. :) |
| 08:34.46 | ebzzry | I'll just fetch the latest eMMC image, then I'll post updates. |
| 08:34.55 | ebzzry | By the way, does it matter that I have been using bootmenu? |
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| 08:35.39 | Noobmonk3y | cool! goodluck ;) - erm, i think it just removes it doesnt it? |
| 08:36.16 | ebzzry | By the way, what exactly is R&D mode? |
| 08:36.34 | ruskie | research&development mode |
| 08:36.47 | ruskie | disables a ton of stuff and might enable some other stuff |
| 08:37.05 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: http://wiki.maemo.org/R%26D_mode |
| 08:37.48 | ebzzry | Uh, that wiki page doesn't tell a lot. |
| 08:37.55 | Noobmonk3y | tells more than nothing ;) lol |
| 08:39.02 | ebzzry | Hehe |
| 08:39.13 | ebzzry | It feels good to have timely backups. =) |
| 08:39.39 | ebzzry | A few more minutes and the eMMC image download is done. =) |
| 08:40.10 | Noobmonk3y | :) :) |
| 08:40.18 | Termana | ebzzry, It doesn't tell a lot because there isn't a lot to tell |
| 08:40.22 | Termana | Did you consider that? |
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| 08:40.47 | ebzzry | Termana: Then why is there an R&D mode? =) |
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| 08:41.01 | ebzzry | Termana: I'll answer that. Because it just is. |
| 08:41.16 | ebzzry | Who among you use R&D mode on a daily basis? |
| 08:41.19 | Termana | ebzzry, because it serves a purposes. There's just not much to say about it. It does what it does |
| 08:41.45 | ebzzry | I use R&D mode to enable SSH via Bootmenu. Is that reasonable? |
| 08:41.51 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: i think it is a more historical thing for uber developers |
| 08:42.05 | Noobmonk3y | although, good reason ;) |
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| 08:43.33 | ebzzry | Hmm, anyway, who among you guys use it? |
| 08:44.07 | Noobmonk3y | not me :) |
| 08:44.23 | Noobmonk3y | lcuk: ever use r&d mode? |
| 08:45.07 | ebzzry | I remember, is this BackupMenu app good? |
| 08:47.11 | Noobmonk3y | hehe, too early n quiet on here :p |
| 08:47.55 | RobbieThe1st | heh. |
| 08:48.33 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: One-of-a-kind. |
| 08:48.45 | alterego | Don't think I've used r&d since N800 |
| 08:48.52 | korhojoa | i used to use r&d mode before nitdroid worked without it |
| 08:49.20 | alterego | I might have enabled it on the N810 for some reason. Know I've never done it on the N900 though |
| 08:49.23 | RobbieThe1st | That reminds me; I probably should start packaging up my new version of Backupmenu and upload it to the repo... |
| 08:50.32 | korhojoa | what does backupmenu do really? |
| 08:51.09 | RobbieThe1st | Provides a "rescue" menu, with options to backup and restore filesystem images |
| 08:51.33 | korhojoa | nice. |
| 08:52.28 | RobbieThe1st | Yea. Mind you, you'd probably be best off using the new version located here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=856172 |
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| 08:53.03 | RobbieThe1st | er, better link would be here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 08:53.24 | ebzzry | Hmm, does it require the system to be down? |
| 08:53.48 | nocturnal | so this new PR1.3, does it let me dual boot meego and how do i dual boot? because i've already installed the meego file system on my micro-sd and i've also booted it once by flashing the 1.1 kernel image. but do i still need u-boot to dual boot it if i'm using PR1.3? |
| 08:53.51 | RobbieThe1st | Yes. |
| 08:54.10 | ebzzry | How does it fare compared to bootmenu + ssh patch |
| 08:54.35 | RobbieThe1st | erm... essentially the same thing, just no need for a seperate computer |
| 08:55.24 | RobbieThe1st | It uses bootmenu also, but then chroots into a ramdisk - the optfs and rootfs can then be safely coped and restored |
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| 08:55.44 | nocturnal | + * Fixes: NB#170888 - Dual boot in kernel for enabling MeeGo |
| 08:55.49 | nocturnal | but how do you use it? |
| 08:56.26 | alterego | kexec |
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| 08:56.30 | alterego | look it up |
| 08:56.36 | nocturnal | ooh |
| 08:56.37 | ShadowJK | the MeeGo team haven't finished code and intructions for it yet I think |
| 08:56.51 | RST38h | moos |
| 08:56.56 | RST38h | Moorning, ShadowJK |
| 08:57.01 | Noobmonk3y | moaning |
| 08:57.03 | ShadowJK | morn |
| 08:57.03 | nocturnal | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/kexec |
| 08:57.05 | nocturnal | well there is this |
| 08:57.06 | RST38h | Anything new and exciting lately? |
| 08:57.07 | nocturnal | i've seen it before |
| 08:57.13 | nocturnal | but i had no idea what kexec was |
| 08:57.16 | nocturnal | pretty awesome tool |
| 08:57.18 | RST38h | nocturnal: this is reported to not quite work yet |
| 08:57.18 | Noobmonk3y | RST38h: cow's Moo... found it out this morning |
| 08:57.37 | RST38h | nocturnal: I.e. it boots into meego but then hangs (source: javispedro) |
| 08:57.38 | nocturnal | RST38h: don't matter, i have my n900 just to play with and dev |
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| 08:58.13 | nocturnal | RST38h: but one of the fixes in 1.3 was dual booting |
| 08:58.19 | nocturnal | do they mean kexec or something else? |
| 08:58.20 | nocturnal | + * Fixes: NB#170888 - Dual boot in kernel for enabling MeeGo |
| 08:58.24 | Noobmonk3y | nocturnal: not working yet though |
| 08:58.36 | nocturnal | wtf, then why list it as a fix for the new firmware? |
| 08:58.37 | RST38h | nocturnal: yes, so after PR1.3 it does not hang right away, it hangs after a short while |
| 08:58.37 | Noobmonk3y | it will work with 1.3 when they fix it ;) |
| 08:58.43 | Noobmonk3y | they fixed one side of it :0 |
| 08:58.47 | nocturnal | haha |
| 08:58.49 | nocturnal | ok |
| 08:58.50 | nocturnal | well thanks |
| 08:58.56 | Noobmonk3y | shouldnt be too long :0 |
| 08:58.56 | RST38h | That is alpha software for you |
| 08:59.06 | Noobmonk3y | RST38h: that's open source for ya ;) |
| 08:59.14 | nocturnal | but kexec was still interesting, never heard of anything like that on bsd. |
| 08:59.17 | Noobmonk3y | or as open as we get anyway |
| 08:59.18 | RST38h | That too, but less so |
| 08:59.29 | RST38h | Meego people are paid to work on Meego |
| 08:59.32 | ShadowJK | nocturnal, kexec in maemo is fixed. MeeGo isn't setup to be able to use it yet though |
| 08:59.39 | nocturnal | ok cool |
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| 09:00.39 | korhojoa | -"It's fixed!" -"What's fixed?" -"Well, now it doesn't hang immediately!" -"Still hangs after 30 seconds..." -"Well, that's not part of the bug..." |
| 09:01.20 | nocturnal | =) |
| 09:01.29 | nocturnal | maybe it wasn't a priority yet |
| 09:01.50 | nocturnal | since the n900 is only used for early meego development and so far it works to boot |
| 09:01.54 | Noobmonk3y | bingo ;) |
| 09:01.58 | ShadowJK | sounds like meego isn't paying enough attention to watchdogs :) |
| 09:02.07 | Noobmonk3y | those darn dogs |
| 09:02.38 | Noobmonk3y | anyone in the mood to answer a stupid qt question for me pls? |
| 09:02.48 | alterego | Noobmonk3y: fire away |
| 09:02.50 | Noobmonk3y | (relates to someone else's code that i'm trying to get working!) |
| 09:03.00 | korhojoa | solution: r&d mode - disable watchdogs |
| 09:03.13 | nocturnal | lol should have just read one line up in the bugfixes +kernel (2.6.28-20102204) unstable; urgency=low |
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| 09:03.59 | ebzzry | RobbieThe1st: You said not another computer is needed. What did you mean by that? |
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| 09:05.41 | Termana | grumbles at stupid house power |
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| 09:10.29 | ebzzry | RobbieThe1st: I'll just try it out to see. |
| 09:12.54 | RobbieThe1st | actually, just wait |
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| 09:13.18 | RobbieThe1st | I just uploaded it to the autobuilder queue, the new package should be availaible in a few minutes in extras-devel |
| 09:13.32 | RobbieThe1st | It'll be v0.48 of "backupmenu" |
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| 09:19.00 | RobbieThe1st | Oops, I guess it wanted comma-separated dependencies... Reuploaded. |
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| 09:23.36 | sjk | is there a way of locking the special shift key that gives you numbers and #+* etc? |
| 09:23.48 | RobbieThe1st | press it twice? |
| 09:23.58 | sjk | like if you have to type a lot of numbers |
| 09:24.04 | sjk | **( |
| 09:24.13 | sjk | *aah! |
| 09:24.34 | sjk | thanks RobbieThe1st |
| 09:24.36 | RobbieThe1st | np |
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| 09:27.19 | sjk | hmm... sometimes i cannot tap the things on my homescreen. is that a bug? like i cant tap the recorder program |
| 09:28.15 | sjk | it's a little red square that is supposed to record stuff (telephone calls etc) but nothing happens |
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| 09:28.35 | sjk | is that a bug or have i just missed something |
| 09:29.47 | RobbieThe1st | um |
| 09:30.03 | jacekowski | meego released |
| 09:30.05 | RobbieThe1st | I -assume- it probably means that, for whatever reason, it didn't launch |
| 09:30.17 | RobbieThe1st | so, possibly a bug in that bit of software |
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| 09:31.00 | ebzzry | RobbieThe1st: So from -devel? |
| 09:31.17 | sjk | RobbieThe1st, when i click the settings "wheel" i can move the icon around, but i cannot go into its settings |
| 09:31.27 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ |
| 09:32.00 | RobbieThe1st | sjk: you mean where you can click the "x" to delete that icon? |
| 09:32.33 | ebzzry | Which reminds me to make a list of apps that I should exclusively snag from -devel =) |
| 09:32.55 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: As you can see from that, it's in the process of getting updated. It got built, but hasn't fully made it into extras-devel yet |
| 09:33.20 | sjk | actually all applications on that desktop seem to be frozen - .my uptime widget says the uptime is 52 minutes eventho it's been on all night |
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| 09:33.40 | sjk | RobbieThe1st, yeah, that's the one |
| 09:33.51 | RobbieThe1st | You need to exit from that then |
| 09:33.58 | RobbieThe1st | because that's just "organize" mode |
| 09:34.15 | RobbieThe1st | If you've been in that mode all night... No wonder it hasn't updated |
| 09:34.51 | sjk | im not in the mode where i can enter the settings |
| 09:34.52 | ebzzry | By the way, how do I flash an eMMC image? |
| 09:35.11 | sjk | it just looks like that desktop has frozen |
| 09:35.15 | RobbieThe1st | sjk: are there white/black X's in the upper-right corner of each icon? |
| 09:35.57 | sjk | nope |
| 09:36.09 | ShadowJK | mone are yellow |
| 09:36.10 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: the eMMC image is only needed if you -royally- screw things up. It contains both an empty optfs partition, and the Mydocs partition |
| 09:36.12 | ShadowJK | mine* |
| 09:36.33 | RobbieThe1st | sjk: Hm... |
| 09:36.37 | sjk | actually, i've got the same problem when i slide to the other desktops as well |
| 09:36.52 | sjk | i can't click anything |
| 09:37.15 | sjk | i get the click sound, but nothing happens |
| 09:37.40 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: The N900's made up of three partitions: the rootfs, which is built into the CPU chip(256m). The optfs, which also has your configuration(icon placement etc) and most of 3rd-party programs. |
| 09:37.59 | ebzzry | Yeah, I mentioned it earlier. I have been advised to do so. =) |
| 09:38.00 | RobbieThe1st | Third is the MyDocs, which is ~27GB and is your "data" area |
| 09:38.18 | RobbieThe1st | sjk: I'd reboot |
| 09:38.23 | ebzzry | Is the command still: flasher-3.5 -f -F image.bin |
| 09:38.23 | RobbieThe1st | something may have crashed |
| 09:38.51 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: Yes, it is. But, you have to 1. flash PR1.3, 2. flash the emmc, and 3. reboot it |
| 09:39.06 | RobbieThe1st | -no- reboot between flashing pr1.3 and the emmc, or it won't boot |
| 09:39.12 | ShadowJK | sjk: you don't get a icon of round gear sliding out when you tap desktop background either? |
| 09:39.56 | ebzzry | kerio: How do I flash the eMMC? |
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| 09:40.36 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: like I said, it's still the same flasher command |
| 09:40.41 | kerio | why are you asking me |
| 09:40.55 | ebzzry | Sorry, I didn't see what RobbieThe1st said. =( |
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| 09:41.58 | sjk | ShadowJK, i do |
| 09:41.58 | BCMM | if you happen to not want to use amazon-installer and stuff, can one remove maemo-installer-utils? |
| 09:43.18 | sjk | I guess I'll just give it a reboot |
| 09:43.23 | RST38h | Manchester's Self-Described 'Internet Troll' Jailed For Offensive Web Posts |
| 09:43.34 | RobbieThe1st | "apt-get remove maemo-installer-utils --purge" |
| 09:43.39 | RobbieThe1st | see what else it removes |
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| 09:47.26 | BCMM | RobbieThe1st: thanks (i'm sorta unfamiliar with Debian) |
| 09:47.50 | RobbieThe1st | NP |
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| 09:48.14 | RobbieThe1st | Note, you -do- need to do that as root.. |
| 09:48.39 | andyph666 | anyone here got neopwn to install? |
| 09:49.29 | andyph666 | my device decided to reboot.. and now it says not enough space to extract when I extract it to /.neopwn |
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| 09:52.01 | ebzzry | kerio: I did what you advised me to do, i.e., 1) flash PR 1.3, and 2) flash emmc, but I'm still stuck at the screen with six circles |
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| 09:52.38 | RobbieThe1st | ok, eb, lets see |
| 09:52.41 | alterego | ebzzry: first time takes quite a while to bboot |
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| 09:52.52 | ebzzry | Hmm. |
| 09:52.54 | ebzzry | It works now! |
| 09:52.57 | RobbieThe1st | Greayt |
| 09:52.57 | ebzzry | =) |
| 09:52.59 | alterego | An annoyingly long time that makes you think it's broken, try and be a bit more patient. |
| 09:53.04 | ebzzry | Thanks for the advice guys. |
| 09:53.07 | alterego | ;) |
| 09:53.11 | BCMM | RobbieThe1st: heh, i'm new to debian, not linux :) |
| 09:53.17 | ebzzry | Yes, Robbie. I'll use BackupMenu and send you donations. =) |
| 09:53.36 | RobbieThe1st | :P. BCMM: Fair enough, just had to make sure |
| 09:54.01 | BCMM | thx |
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| 09:54.22 | alterego | I noticed PR1.3 seemed to have a slightly longer first startup than I remembered from previous versions. |
| 09:54.32 | alterego | Thought my device was dead when I first flashed it :/ |
| 09:54.43 | RobbieThe1st | Y'know, I wish they'd used a framebuffer kernel by default - or at least provided detailed error messages when something goes wrong a "dots-reboot-loop" isn't exactly helpful |
| 09:54.55 | alterego | But I left it for a while and it started up fine eventually. |
| 09:55.19 | RobbieThe1st | alterego: Yea, same. I thought it was just mine, but apparently it's normal |
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| 09:55.52 | ShadowJK | first startup since 1.2 takes ages. It moves alot of stuff from rootfs to /opt |
| 09:56.10 | RobbieThe1st | btw: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/maemo/kernels/framebuffer/zImage-fb-omap1.bin <- flash that as a kernel (-k) and you get a framebuffer, and lots of thereputic text on startup |
| 09:56.36 | alterego | :) |
| 09:56.52 | D-man | Hi guys. Why do my alias shortcuts get deleted after I exit xterm? |
| 09:56.59 | sjk | it seems to freeze when i try to use the recording widget while talking on the phone |
| 09:57.12 | alterego | sjk: because the shell stops running when you close xterm |
| 09:57.29 | alterego | You need to add them to your ~/.profile |
| 09:57.32 | sjk | D-man, add the aliases to your shell rc |
| 09:57.49 | sjk | alterego, wrong guy :) |
| 09:57.58 | alterego | Oh sorry ;) |
| 09:58.08 | alterego | D-man: add your alias lines to ~/.profile |
| 09:58.43 | alterego | You'll need to create the file and test it before you restart the device because if you screw it up you wont be able to boot the device again |
| 09:59.08 | alterego | And you'll need to reflash both root and emmc, or boot meego and fix it |
| 09:59.19 | RobbieThe1st | Before doing that - enable extras-devel and install backupmenu. Reboot with keyboard open and make a backup |
| 09:59.31 | RobbieThe1st | Then, you will be able to restore it if it doesn't boot |
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| 10:01.05 | sjk | what, a dot profile can ruin maemo? |
| 10:01.34 | RobbieThe1st | Maemo is -very- picky about a lot of things |
| 10:01.59 | RobbieThe1st | And they don't even have the courtesy to drop you to a root console when things don't work out |
| 10:02.08 | sjk | is switching shells a bad idea? |
| 10:02.23 | alterego | sjk: not if it works ;) |
| 10:02.34 | RobbieThe1st | Four words: make a backup first! |
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| 10:02.49 | RobbieThe1st | Many people have bricked their systems messing with such things |
| 10:03.08 | RobbieThe1st | (including myself) - There's a -reason- I developed BackupMenu |
| 10:03.08 | sjk | like, switch to zsh? i am guessing that maemo would still use the original shell with its .profile |
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| 10:03.57 | ShadowJK | sjk, I wouldn't risk it personally :) |
| 10:04.25 | ShadowJK | or then I'd just type zsh after opening xterm |
| 10:04.45 | D-man | Oh well... thanks for that, i didn't realize that it's so dangerous. |
| 10:05.44 | RobbieThe1st | What I've found is that messing with a lot of lower-level stuff is "dangerous". You just need to make a backup first, and restore it if things go wrong. So it takes 10 minutes to restore... so what? |
| 10:06.06 | ilius | sjk: do you want to change default shell of user? |
| 10:06.13 | sjk | Hmm. Why does the shell mean so much to maemo? |
| 10:06.26 | alterego | Because all the startup scripts are written to use it :P |
| 10:06.38 | alterego | Basically, hildon-desktop gets started as user I believe |
| 10:06.47 | alterego | So if your environment is broken, it wont start. |
| 10:06.49 | ilius | sjk: i changed it to bash, and when I open terminal, its bash :P |
| 10:07.29 | ShadowJK | Many of the scripts only work with busybox ash :/ |
| 10:07.45 | sjk | alterego: but i would assume that the startup scripts would use the full path to ash |
| 10:07.56 | ilius | sjk: usermod -s /bin/zsh user |
| 10:07.58 | alterego | sjk: /bin/sh actually I would guess |
| 10:08.12 | alterego | As long as bash doesn't override that symlink, all should be well (I'd hope) |
| 10:08.30 | ilius | just change the user's shell |
| 10:08.30 | alterego | But obviously, we don't really know for sure. I might test some of this crap when I setup the maemo emulator. |
| 10:08.31 | sjk | so what difference would it make if the user changed the default shell to something else |
| 10:08.41 | sjk | hmmm :) |
| 10:09.02 | alterego | Anyway, I gotta go now. Talk to you all later. |
| 10:09.03 | sjk | alterego, interesting! |
| 10:09.15 | sjk | see you around alterego |
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| 10:10.02 | sjk | ilius, i dont know if i dare to, i got a bit scared :) |
| 10:10.15 | celesteh | hello, my n900 is in a reboot loop and i think i need to relfash the device. When I go to download a binary, there's many options. Which one do I need? I bought my n900 in the US |
| 10:10.22 | ilius | sjk: i did it, no danger |
| 10:10.30 | RobbieThe1st | One, get the PR1.3 image |
| 10:10.35 | RobbieThe1st | Two, get the US one |
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| 10:11.12 | RobbieThe1st | note, all images will work on all devices - but the US one's probably better for you as some of the others are "restricted" in one way or another |
| 10:11.26 | sjk | anyone using recaller when on the phone? |
| 10:11.39 | celesteh | what's the FIASCO image? |
| 10:12.37 | RobbieThe1st | um |
| 10:12.51 | alterego | Or the global image. |
| 10:12.51 | celesteh | thanks RobbieThe1st |
| 10:13.08 | RobbieThe1st | RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin |
| 10:13.10 | celesteh | I'm in the UK, if that matters |
| 10:13.38 | RobbieThe1st | hm... what is the difference between us and global images, anyway? |
| 10:14.51 | ShadowJK | probably nothing |
| 10:14.51 | ebzzry | Is there a way to enable -devel, but packages will, by default, come from -testing? pinning? |
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| 10:15.01 | ShadowJK | maybe it boots up with en_US as default language |
| 10:15.41 | RobbieThe1st | ebzzry: Eh, don't worry so much. I've got extras-devel enabled, and haven't had any issues - heck, most of the software packages aren't in -either-, so... |
| 10:15.42 | ShadowJK | just has extras-testing and extras-devel disabled all the time until needing something from one of them, then enabling them for a short while only |
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| 10:17.37 | celesteh | so do i need to flash both the US image and the eMMC, or is there a chance i can get away with just doing the Us image? |
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| 10:18.39 | ShadowJK | yes there's a chance |
| 10:19.08 | ShadowJK | if just us image fails to boot, then redo flashing both of them |
| 10:19.36 | ShadowJK | and pay attention to that when you flash both you must not reboot in between them |
| 10:20.04 | celesteh | what causes the reboot loop? Is it a corrupted file or something wrong with the kernel? |
| 10:20.26 | celesteh | I just did an upgrade via the application manager a few days ago |
| 10:20.53 | jacekowski | celesteh: low battery |
| 10:20.58 | jacekowski | celesteh: corrupted files |
| 10:21.04 | jacekowski | celesteh: many options |
| 10:22.41 | RobbieThe1st | celesteh: want to know exactly? |
| 10:23.28 | RobbieThe1st | celesteh: download this: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/maemo/kernels/framebuffer/zImage-fb-omap1.bin and flash it using the nokia flasher with the -k option |
| 10:23.47 | RobbieThe1st | boot it and see what happens - you'll see a bunch of text, and (hopefully) some sort of error |
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| 10:40.22 | ebzzry | Does the Restore command of the Backup app restore application catalogs? |
| 10:42.25 | BluesLee | ebzzry: check it yourself, do a backup and have a look in the archive |
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| 10:45.12 | ShadowJK | it did restore them for me |
| 10:46.42 | ebzzry | ShadowJK: Sweet. Thanks. |
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| 10:54.24 | Noobmonk3y | burps |
| 10:55.29 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: good to see the emmc flash worked ;) |
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| 10:58.10 | erani | the reaction speed of proximity sensor is quite slow imo :S |
| 10:58.31 | celesteh | thx RobbueThe1st |
| 10:58.50 | celesteh | wondering what the difference is between a warm flash and a cold flash? |
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| 11:00.24 | erani | when I want to end a phone call and I take the phone off my ear, I have to wait quite long before I can press the ending button |
| 11:01.59 | ebzzry | Noobmonk3y: Ya. Thanks for the assistance. |
| 11:02.16 | Noobmonk3y | lol i'm more a porter to #maemo, no knowledge here, just a sign post ;) |
| 11:02.19 | ebzzry | celesteh: Same here |
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| 11:03.24 | Noobmonk3y | erani: there are some things to help that, i find the black plastic theme and swappolube have helped alot |
| 11:04.15 | MohammadAG51 | throws a bricked N900 at Noobmonk3y |
| 11:04.29 | ebzzry | By the way, does anybody know the location of the official ChangeLog for PR 1.3? =) |
| 11:04.30 | Noobmonk3y | catches is and gives it to oxfam |
| 11:04.37 | Noobmonk3y | morning MohammadAG51 |
| 11:04.53 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: comedian, official and changelog in the same sentence? ;) |
| 11:05.03 | ebzzry | =) |
| 11:05.31 | Noobmonk3y | you can try the users ones - http://www.maemofanatics.com/workaround-for-pr1-3-changelog/ |
| 11:05.33 | ebzzry | I want to show my dad the list of changes, since he did a PR 1.3 upgrade OTA seamlessly. I envy him. =) |
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| 11:05.56 | MohammadAG51 | looks at cracking metal on N900 |
| 11:05.57 | Noobmonk3y | welcome lcuky |
| 11:05.57 | ShadowJK | the official changelog is two lines long |
| 11:06.10 | ebzzry | ShadowJK: So uncool. :| |
| 11:06.12 | Noobmonk3y | ShadowJK: the start /n the end? |
| 11:06.13 | MohammadAG51 | - WONFIX |
| 11:06.18 | MohammadAG51 | - WONTGIVEAFUCK |
| 11:06.19 | Noobmonk3y | lol mo |
| 11:06.30 | ebzzry | MohammadAG51: LOL |
| 11:07.15 | ShadowJK | "Performance improvements and bug fixes", "OVI Suite support" |
| 11:07.29 | ebzzry | ShadowJK: =( |
| 11:07.34 | ShadowJK | Amusingly the Nokia.com/n900 page tells me to install latest flash player to check if I can update N900 |
| 11:08.47 | lcuk | MohammadAG51, since you have the SSU firmly in your hands, choose a WONTFIX and turn it into a COMMUNITYFIX |
| 11:08.58 | lcuk | hiya Noobmonk3y \o |
| 11:09.09 | MohammadAG51 | lcuk, bug 10613 |
| 11:09.10 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/10613 screen glitches on incoming call |
| 11:09.33 | Noobmonk3y | shudders at the thought of MohammadAG51 caressing a SSU |
| 11:09.37 | MohammadAG51 | idk why it happens in 1.3, but the new hd in the ssu fixes it |
| 11:10.02 | Noobmonk3y | Moh - if i add your SSU, will it brick my device? lol |
| 11:10.12 | celesteh | the flasher tells me I have hardware revision 2101, but that number is not actually anywhere in the string of numbers on the back of my phone. The large 4 digit number on the right is 0434 |
| 11:10.13 | MohammadAG51 | yes |
| 11:10.16 | Noobmonk3y | yay! |
| 11:10.21 | lcuk | only for now |
| 11:10.26 | MohammadAG51 | Noobmonk3y, it's not yet official, but it works |
| 11:10.31 | Noobmonk3y | cool |
| 11:10.47 | MohammadAG51 | needs to figure out how to call a terminal window from postinst, and exit postinst |
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| 11:10.53 | ebzzry | Is Meego promising on the N900? |
| 11:11.02 | MohammadAG51 | tried nohup, works with dpkg, not with apt |
| 11:11.21 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: as a developer tool, i spose, not a consumer end product, but the community will most likely sort it properly |
| 11:11.39 | MohammadAG51 | hates RPM |
| 11:11.42 | lcuk | ebzzry, the n900 is the OSS handset reference platform and how polished and usable it is depends on us |
| 11:11.42 | MohammadAG51 | hides |
| 11:11.59 | ebzzry | Hmm. Nice insight. |
| 11:12.07 | Noobmonk3y | lcuk: by 'us' you mean the clever elves......... |
| 11:12.19 | lcuk | :D you have been watching ben and holly too! |
| 11:12.22 | Noobmonk3y | not literally you, me and Mo, that would be wrong ;) |
| 11:12.29 | lcuk | i am ben elf. PRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 11:12.33 | celesteh | oh f*ck, i completely buggered this |
| 11:12.38 | Noobmonk3y | has no idea what bacon/drugs lcuk is on! |
| 11:12.45 | lcuk | sigh |
| 11:12.46 | ebzzry | I'm interested in contributing. What are the languages that Maemo 5 uses? C? C++? Python? |
| 11:12.55 | Noobmonk3y | ebzzry: all of the above |
| 11:13.06 | Noobmonk3y | most likely c++/qt |
| 11:13.09 | ebzzry | Noobmonk3y: Exclusive or there are more? |
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| 11:13.17 | MohammadAG51 | more i think |
| 11:13.23 | lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQhQNlCzCsg Ben & Holly's Little Kingdom - Betty Caterpillar |
| 11:13.24 | MohammadAG51 | ruby works afaik |
| 11:13.28 | Noobmonk3y | more that we can use, that memo5 was developed with, i dont know |
| 11:13.30 | lcuk | Noobmonk3y, watch first 30 seconds |
| 11:13.39 | lcuk | tracy keeps calling me the wise old elf! |
| 11:13.42 | lcuk | cos he has a beard |
| 11:14.00 | Noobmonk3y | omg!!!! |
| 11:14.06 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG51: = princess holly! |
| 11:14.09 | celesteh | i thought it might be interesting to use the flasher to turn on rd-mode, to see if that helped with my reboot loop. But now, whenever the batter is in, it turns itself on and then gets stuck in the loop. so i can't flash it because i can't get it in usb mode. |
| 11:14.16 | MohammadAG51 | o_O |
| 11:14.25 | lcuk | lololol Noobmonk3y |
| 11:14.25 | Noobmonk3y | 0_o |
| 11:14.35 | MohammadAG51 | O_O |
| 11:14.42 | Noobmonk3y | tis true though, you can't deny it |
| 11:15.09 | MohammadAG51 | LOL just found out music player was still playing on volume 0 |
| 11:15.24 | ebzzry | Sorry to bring this topic, but is H-E-N there already? |
| 11:15.25 | MohammadAG51 | supposedly, last time i used it was 5 hours ago |
| 11:15.29 | MohammadAG51 | explains the battery |
| 11:15.43 | MohammadAG51 | ebzzry, no, but there is progress by PaulFertser |
| 11:16.19 | ebzzry | MohammadAG51: Do you know where can I get more information regarding Paul's work? |
| 11:16.39 | MohammadAG51 | nothing for public consumption yet :P |
| 11:16.52 | PaulFertser | ebzzry: in fact you can |
| 11:17.14 | PaulFertser | ebzzry: in the paul-experimental branch of h-e-n git. |
| 11:17.16 | ebzzry | PaulFertser: Are we piggybacking on H-E-N or we are starting from scratch? |
| 11:17.21 | ebzzry | PaulFertser: OK |
| 11:17.28 | PaulFertser | ebzzry: just take a look at the patch :) |
| 11:17.51 | ebzzry | PaulFertser: OK. I will. |
| 11:18.09 | lcuk | ebzzry, if you are interested and can give technical assistance, hide out in the sekrit hen channel :P |
| 11:18.10 | ebzzry | PaulFertser: Are you ahead of the master branch? |
| 11:18.24 | ebzzry | lcuk: hehe =p |
| 11:19.16 | PaulFertser | ebzzry: there's no master branch. |
| 11:20.02 | lcuk | eek 2155 bookmarks in firefox |
| 11:20.17 | MohammadAG51 | lcuk, sure that isn't your history? lol |
| 11:20.33 | lcuk | MohammadAG51, positive, thats all bookmarks which include / |
| 11:20.51 | ebzzry | Hmm, will donating to the hen project help? |
| 11:21.04 | lcuk | :D they go back to when I installed firefox |
| 11:21.16 | lcuk | 4th january 2006 |
| 11:21.40 | MohammadAG51 | ebzzry, though i'll leave the answer to DocScrutinizer or PaulFertser, I think we're more interested in patches rather than money :P |
| 11:21.42 | lcuk | on this machine at least |
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| 11:22.53 | PaulFertser | ebzzry: donating enjoyment of life would help, yes. |
| 11:23.16 | Noobmonk3y | PaulFertser: you could buy an iphone with the donations ;) |
| 11:23.28 | Noobmonk3y | goes back to his hole |
| 11:23.40 | ebzzry | PaulFertser: Inspiring words. |
| 11:23.56 | MohammadAG51 | slaps Noobmonk3y |
| 11:23.57 | ebzzry | Buy an iPhone to throw at fellow devs? =) |
| 11:24.19 | Noobmonk3y | ;) |
| 11:24.30 | dreamer | oh dear, I did an apt-get autoremove and got: E: Internal Erro, AutoRemover broke stuff |
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| 11:27.07 | Noobmonk3y | lol |
| 11:28.12 | BCMM | ebzzry: no, he can test HEN by USB tethering the n900 to the iphone, so we can finally experience proper signal loss on maemo |
| 11:28.13 | lcuk | dreamer, file a bug against apt - spelling mistakes shouldnt be there :S |
| 11:28.37 | lcuk | what else did it try to remove and just what have you done to your system |
| 11:29.32 | Noobmonk3y | lol lcuk |
| 11:29.43 | dreamer | lcuk: heh, I'm just typing it from my screen ;) |
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| 11:31.18 | kerio | this is not #apple, we have copypaste |
| 11:31.37 | MohammadAG51 | kerio, they have copy and paste since 3.0 you know :P |
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| 11:31.46 | MohammadAG51 | yay |
| 11:32.05 | MohammadAG51 | N8 incoming :) |
| 11:32.10 | dreamer | copy/paste from n900 to my laptop is not 'that' easy (no, I don't have sshd atm :P) |
| 11:32.30 | MohammadAG51 | dreamer, pastebinit |
| 11:32.37 | MohammadAG51 | fixed the package |
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| 11:33.03 | dreamer | and how do I file a bug against apt? which 'product' is it a part of? |
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| 11:33.29 | MohammadAG51 | apt itself |
| 11:33.31 | dreamer | MohammadAG51: yesyes, trying to copy/past from terminal to webkit thingy .. |
| 11:33.40 | dreamer | MohammadAG51: not in bugzilla as such |
| 11:33.48 | MohammadAG51 | dreamer, no, "pastebinit" is a package |
| 11:33.58 | dreamer | https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?classification=__all << where is it? |
| 11:34.05 | MohammadAG51 | you pipe a command through it, and it gets pastebinned |
| 11:34.05 | dreamer | MohammadAG51: orly? kewl |
| 11:34.10 | MohammadAG51 | you get a link |
| 11:35.13 | dreamer | I realize, I've seen 'embedded' pastebin on other systems, didn't know there was a particular package as such for maemo |
| 11:35.42 | dreamer | MohammadAG51: 'E: Couldn't find package pastebinit' |
| 11:35.49 | MohammadAG51 | dreamer, devel |
| 11:36.00 | dreamer | ah, don't have it enabled |
| 11:36.35 | MohammadAG51 | and testing? |
| 11:37.46 | dreamer | MohammadAG51: yes, I have extras-testing |
| 11:37.59 | MohammadAG51 | i'll send it there today then |
| 11:38.37 | SpeedEvil | pastebinit never worked for me |
| 11:38.41 | dreamer | haha |
| 11:38.56 | dreamer | hmm, no shift+insert on the cli is annoying sometimes |
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| 11:39.39 | MohammadAG51 | SpeedEvil, upgrade the package |
| 11:41.48 | dreamer | ok, http://pastebin.com/F2v6beVd |
| 11:42.16 | dreamer | but, I still can't find package apt in bugzilla (tbh, the bugzilla interface does not seem very userfriendly ..) |
| 11:42.56 | MohammadAG51 | apt isn't maemo specific |
| 11:43.39 | dreamer | ah, in that sense |
| 11:43.57 | dreamer | I thought on the apt packaged in maemo .. but this bugreport should go straight to the apt devs? |
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| 11:45.17 | MohammadAG51 | probably yes |
| 11:45.21 | MohammadAG51 | pokes lcuk |
| 11:45.32 | hrw | ho |
| 11:46.08 | MohammadAG51 | hey hrw |
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| 11:46.21 | MohammadAG51 | hmm, someone's looking into porting dalvik for maemo? |
| 11:47.04 | hrw | MohammadAG51: what for? |
| 11:47.21 | MohammadAG51 | android apps on the N900 |
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| 11:49.04 | hrw | run nitroid? |
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| 11:50.00 | dreamer | MohammadAG51: where's the apt bugzilla then? -_- (really can't locate it ..) |
| 11:53.54 | MohammadAG51 | hrw, that requires reboots, and i hate android |
| 11:54.17 | hrw | MohammadAG51: but you want dalvik which is android... |
| 11:54.26 | hrw | am I only one who see it strange? |
| 11:54.34 | MohammadAG51 | hrw, did I say that? |
| 11:54.46 | MohammadAG51 | hrw, I'm just saying someone started porting it |
| 11:55.10 | hrw | mkey |
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| 12:11.20 | Termana | MohammadAG51, why on earth would you want an N8? |
| 12:11.22 | Termana | :p |
| 12:12.07 | jacekowski | MohammadAG51: i looked into it |
| 12:12.44 | jacekowski | MohammadAG51: nothing very hard to do if you want to go android chroot way |
| 12:12.47 | MohammadAG51 | Termana, it's not for me |
| 12:13.06 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG51: YOU'RE MAD??? I'm interested in MONEY, nothing else!! |
| 12:14.01 | Noobmonk3y | DocScrutinizer: and sugar :) |
| 12:14.13 | Noobmonk3y | and bacon |
| 12:14.14 | Noobmonk3y | and trouts |
| 12:14.19 | Noobmonk3y | and... and and....... |
| 12:14.24 | DocScrutinizer | if it's large amounts in my caffee latte then yes |
| 12:14.25 | Termana | MohammadAG51, who are you getting it for? |
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| 12:14.40 | Noobmonk3y | Termana: MohammadAG51 is getting it for his alterego MohammadAG |
| 12:14.57 | Noobmonk3y | soon to be MohammadAGN8 |
| 12:16.39 | Termana | Funny. But who's it really going to and what did they do to deserve being treated like such crap? |
| 12:16.40 | Termana | :p |
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| 12:22.30 | MohammadAG51 | Termana, either one of my parents |
| 12:22.40 | MohammadAG51 | they like symbian, it's easy to use for them |
| 12:23.12 | MohammadAG51 | DocScrutinizer, too late, muhahaha |
| 12:24.43 | Xhinde | burns some children |
| 12:29.57 | MohammadAG51 | anyone got an N8? need a pic of the otg adapter |
| 12:30.18 | Noobmonk3y | lol Mo |
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| 12:31.07 | MohammadAG51 | loves it when noobs use sudo cd |
| 12:31.42 | Noobmonk3y | blinks |
| 12:35.20 | dreamer | lol |
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| 12:37.25 | kerio | BACOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON |
| 12:37.34 | Noobmonk3y | blinks |
| 12:38.19 | Xhinde | drools |
| 12:39.08 | Termana | Noobmonk3y, since when did you turn into a VCR? |
| 12:39.23 | Noobmonk3y | about 30 years ago, was pre-emptive genius at the time |
| 12:39.52 | Termana | I guess you didn't anticipate the DVD |
| 12:40.05 | Termana | Now you'll be thrown in the trash in no time |
| 12:42.50 | DocScrutinizer | kerio: AND EEEEEEEEEGS |
| 12:45.44 | kerio | no, no egs |
| 12:45.45 | kerio | eggs |
| 12:45.53 | kerio | just bacon |
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| 12:55.46 | ozzi | Morning all. |
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| 12:56.15 | ozzi | Has anyone of you been able to connect n900 in an infrastructure mode with Ubuntu ? |
| 12:56.49 | joga | (am I the only one who finds the term "infrastructure mode" repulsive?) |
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| 12:57.15 | ozzi | Ur not alone. |
| 12:57.41 | ozzi | my n900 is also in that club apparently. |
| 12:57.49 | x03 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.51 | x03 | oops |
| 13:03.49 | dreamer | anyone know how to resolve the gpg issue with moff.mozilla.com ? |
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| 13:09.30 | Noobmonk3y | hmm in qt i use qfile to open a file like this - QFile file6("/sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch");, but what do i do if i want to open the results from dpkg etc? |
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| 13:16.09 | Noobmonk3y | alterego: any ideas? (Ie, reading output from terminal commands in qt?) |
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| 13:16.56 | lcuk | Noobmonk3y, you mean the qt equivilent of popen("someshellcmd"); ? |
| 13:17.05 | Noobmonk3y | yup :) |
| 13:17.15 | Noobmonk3y | lcuk, thank god you can translate noobisms! |
| 13:17.55 | thp | is there an existing API for setting the empty text (i.e. "No conversations") in a GtkTreeView? |
| 13:18.32 | Noobmonk3y | mornin thp :) |
| 13:19.00 | lcuk | \o thp, not sure |
| 13:19.41 | thp | but you know what i mean, right? ;) |
| 13:19.44 | Kaadlajk | Noobmonk3y: use QProcess and readyReadStandardOutput() readAllStandardOutput () |
| 13:19.48 | lcuk | i do indeed |
| 13:19.54 | Noobmonk3y | hehe just readin gup on QProcess :) :) |
| 13:19.58 | Noobmonk3y | thank you v much |
| 13:21.00 | thp | well, then i'll just dig into the code of some official apps and see if something's available there :p |
| 13:22.07 | lcuk | thp i am trying to think which apps implement it also |
| 13:22.34 | lcuk | i believe i filed bugs that layouts were unaligned in those |
| 13:22.40 | lcuk | which makes me think they are just labels |
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| 13:28.45 | thp | lcuk: just checked in HAM source.. they're using a label, too :) |
| 13:34.41 | Noobmonk3y | Kaadlajk: does this look right? http://pastebin.com/uVbgJqtZ |
| 13:35.42 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, there's an easier way |
| 13:35.58 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: there is always an easier way lol :P - fancy explaining? |
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| 13:36.12 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, basename /var/lib/dpkg/info/mp-fremantle-*.list .list |
| 13:36.23 | Noobmonk3y | is that a file? |
| 13:36.25 | MohammadAG | instead of all the weird grep stuff |
| 13:36.30 | Noobmonk3y | oh no a command |
| 13:36.31 | Noobmonk3y | sorry |
| 13:36.36 | Noobmonk3y | ok, but i still need the qprocess |
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| 13:36.53 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, true, but it's faster than using dpkg -l |
| 13:37.10 | Noobmonk3y | cool - still need to confirm what i have done is right though |
| 13:37.11 | MohammadAG | dpkg -l reads all files in /var/lib/dpkg/info and it reads /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 13:37.13 | Noobmonk3y | as it's not reading yet |
| 13:37.21 | MohammadAG | looks right to me, run it |
| 13:37.29 | MohammadAG | hmm |
| 13:37.43 | Noobmonk3y | is running the new one |
| 13:37.50 | MohammadAG | #include <QProcess> (maybe you missed it?) |
| 13:37.54 | Noobmonk3y | hmm nothing |
| 13:37.57 | MohammadAG | #include <QIODevice> |
| 13:38.59 | Noobmonk3y | lol had both :P |
| 13:39.16 | Kaadlajk | Noobmonk3y: if you do it like that you might not get all the output |
| 13:39.25 | Noobmonk3y | ahhhhhhh |
| 13:39.31 | Kaadlajk | havent actually never used it like that |
| 13:39.39 | Noobmonk3y | have changed the command to Mo's one |
| 13:39.43 | Noobmonk3y | but still nothing coming out |
| 13:39.59 | Noobmonk3y | is just gonna test that command and see what i get first lol |
| 13:41.19 | Noobmonk3y | Mo, that doesnt read the version number out though |
| 13:41.29 | Noobmonk3y | i just get generic-pr |
| 13:42.23 | Noobmonk3y | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 13:43.55 | ruskie | hmm t.m.o keeps returning: The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later |
| 13:44.13 | Noobmonk3y | ruskie - the noobs are attacking tmo in revolt......... |
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| 13:44.22 | Noobmonk3y | or just it's busy, and come back later ;) |
| 13:47.44 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: meh |
| 13:48.06 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, oh |
| 13:48.15 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, I thought you didn't want version number lol |
| 13:48.22 | Noobmonk3y | i'm trying to get the version ;) - actually do want both though :0 |
| 13:48.23 | Noobmonk3y | hehe |
| 13:48.59 | MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# osso-product-info | grep OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION |
| 13:49.02 | MohammadAG | OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='20.2010.36-2' |
| 13:49.14 | Noobmonk3y | oooooooooooooo |
| 13:49.21 | Noobmonk3y | i still need to use qprocess i assume |
| 13:49.24 | Noobmonk3y | but thats what i want! |
| 13:50.04 | MohammadAG | even better |
| 13:50.06 | MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# osso-product-info | grep OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION | sed 's/OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='//g'' | sed "s/'//g" |
| 13:50.06 | MohammadAG | 20.2010.36-2 |
| 13:50.46 | dsg | OSSO_PRODUCT_RELEASE_VERSION='<unknown>' |
| 13:50.48 | dsg | huh |
| 13:51.03 | MohammadAG | dsg, replaced the kernel |
| 13:51.09 | dsg | ah, yes. |
| 13:51.29 | MohammadAG | btw Noobmonk3y |
| 13:51.40 | MohammadAG | you might want to use dpkg -l after all |
| 13:51.52 | Noobmonk3y | lol?! |
| 13:52.01 | Noobmonk3y | ok back to dpkg |
| 13:52.01 | MohammadAG | and don't name them PR1.1/2/3 (or at least don't hardcode them) |
| 13:52.06 | Noobmonk3y | :P |
| 13:52.12 | MohammadAG | healthcheck atm crashes with a different version number |
| 13:52.21 | MohammadAG | and that won't be uncommon after the SSU's out |
| 13:52.49 | MohammadAG | just a hint, the metapackages will be uninstalled when you enable the SSU |
| 13:52.57 | MohammadAG | and a community package (mp-fremantle-community-pr) will be installed |
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| 13:53.38 | MohammadAG | hmm |
| 13:54.01 | Noobmonk3y | oh ffs |
| 13:54.05 | MohammadAG | at git geeks, how do I clone a specific branch? |
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| 13:54.58 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: that still doesnt explain the qprocess bit not returning the dpkg |
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| 13:56.52 | MohammadAG | where's the paste again? |
| 13:58.27 | Noobmonk3y | http://pastebin.com/UWmB23Kg |
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| 14:01.54 | lardman|home | what's up with bloody TMO? |
| 14:02.00 | lardman|home | pardon my French |
| 14:02.20 | Noobmonk3y | lardman|home: your french is perfect :) |
| 14:02.31 | lardman|home | merci bien! |
| 14:02.32 | Noobmonk3y | and tmo isn't |
| 14:02.47 | Noobmonk3y | tmo is revolting, in more ways then one ;) |
| 14:02.57 | lardman|home | It chopped off an attachment and now I can't even get back to the site to edit the post or upload a link |
| 14:02.59 | lardman|home | grr |
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| 14:04.21 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, included <QIODevice>? |
| 14:04.26 | Noobmonk3y | yup |
| 14:06.14 | lcuk | Noobmonk3y, doesyour qt code look as good as your py code? :p |
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| 14:06.26 | Noobmonk3y | lcuk: sexier ;) lol |
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| 14:09.28 | MohammadAG | why the fuck is tmo still slow |
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| 14:16.19 | jacktheripper | is libgles available for scratchbox ? |
| 14:16.34 | jacktheripper | I'm not able to build hildon-desktop because of this. |
| 14:16.58 | MohammadAG | ii libgles2-sgx-img-dev 0.20100611.6+0m5 OpenGL ES 2.0 SGX development files |
| 14:17.05 | MohammadAG | apt-get install nokia-binaries |
| 14:17.38 | jacktheripper | could you cat your /etc/apt/sources.list please ? |
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| 14:17.41 | jacktheripper | I can't find either packages |
| 14:18.15 | MohammadAG | no, I can't cat it, but... |
| 14:18.28 | MohammadAG | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php jacekowski |
| 14:18.33 | MohammadAG | err |
| 14:18.33 | MohammadAG | jacktheripper, ^ |
| 14:18.39 | MohammadAG | sorry jacekowski |
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| 14:21.05 | Noobmonk3y | meh's |
| 14:21.07 | Noobmonk3y | darn qprocess |
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| 14:24.51 | jacktheripper | MohammadAG, that solved it, thanks. I thought I did the nokia-binaries thing before :/ |
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| 14:34.27 | Noobmonk3y | meh meh |
| 14:35.02 | cehteh | mhm ... will an upgrade to 1.3 via fapman be risky? |
| 14:37.37 | ruskie | if you remove all the various extra repos and only leave the main nokia ones it seems to be safe to do it even with apt-get |
| 14:37.56 | DocScrutinizer | cehteh: yes |
| 14:38.10 | ruskie | atleast I did it that way |
| 14:38.19 | lcuk | cehteh, any upgrade of any system even with the entire might of the Earthforce military at your disposal is risky. backup before you start :) |
| 14:38.36 | cehteh | hehe yes backup for sure |
| 14:39.06 | cehteh | well and i need ext4 .. is the community kernel ready for 1.3? |
| 14:40.00 | ruskie | no clue... I rolled my own since I finally wanted fbcon again... and also pptp(which now just need to figure out how to do the routing effectively) |
| 14:40.14 | MohammadAG | cehteh, you'll reverse changes done to the kernel |
| 14:40.33 | ruskie | though did no reverse patching |
| 14:40.35 | MohammadAG | kernel-power is based off 1.2's kernel |
| 14:40.54 | MohammadAG | tmo's dead lol |
| 14:40.56 | cehteh | yeah .. no 1.3 based power kernel yet? |
| 14:41.03 | MohammadAG | no |
| 14:41.19 | cehteh | mhm where there any vital kernel enhancements in 1.3? |
| 14:41.27 | GAN900 | Stupid piece of shit |
| 14:41.31 | MohammadAG | yes, IO changes |
| 14:41.43 | ruskie | GAN900, what is? |
| 14:41.52 | GAN900 | I start recording the crazy guy ranting at my coworker about how evolution's a lie |
| 14:42.06 | GAN900 | Switch away from the camera app to keep my cover |
| 14:42.14 | GAN900 | and it stops recording. . . . |
| 14:42.21 | ruskie | I thought that was normal |
| 14:42.42 | GAN900 | Not a feature I care for. |
| 14:42.55 | ruskie | did you want to video him or just voice record him? |
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| 14:43.05 | ruskie | there are apps there for voice recording |
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| 14:43.18 | MohammadAG | he probably knows |
| 14:43.20 | cehteh | mhm i guess i wait a bit more with the 1.3 upgrade |
| 14:43.53 | MohammadAG | ponders upgrading kernel-power |
| 14:44.15 | ruskie | ponders packaging his kernel up... |
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| 14:44.33 | ruskie | along with uboot |
| 14:44.51 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I still don't get how maemo's git works |
| 14:44.53 | ruskie | still need to craft an initrd and flash that on it someplace |
| 14:45.06 | MohammadAG | so fucked up compared to github/gitorious |
| 14:45.20 | ruskie | MohammadAG, what's the issue? |
| 14:45.40 | MohammadAG | I want to fetch a certain branch |
| 14:45.46 | MohammadAG | from a repository |
| 14:46.06 | ruskie | yes? |
| 14:46.08 | ruskie | care for an example? |
| 14:46.32 | MohammadAG | sure |
| 14:46.45 | ruskie | note git can't pull specific branches out of repos |
| 14:47.10 | ruskie | you need to clone the branch then checkout to the branch |
| 14:47.18 | ruskie | erm clone the repo and then checkout the branch |
| 14:47.38 | crashanddie | I think MohammadAG doesn't understand git as a whole |
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| 14:48.05 | ruskie | I believe the way github and such do it is by having each branch be it's own repo |
| 14:48.09 | MohammadAG | crashanddie, I know how to push commits, that's about it :P |
| 14:48.56 | MohammadAG | it's annoying how there's no progress bar |
| 14:49.10 | ruskie | progress bar?? |
| 14:49.23 | MohammadAG | something to show status |
| 14:49.36 | lcuk | careometer [|----------------] |
| 14:49.46 | ruskie | MohammadAG, erm... for what? cloning? |
| 14:49.56 | ruskie | last I checked it was outputting how much it already pulled |
| 14:50.08 | lcuk | it does normally |
| 14:50.09 | ruskie | tends to be rather quick |
| 14:50.13 | ruskie | even with huge repos |
| 14:50.14 | lcuk | depends on the repo |
| 14:50.18 | MohammadAG | slapometer [|---------------->] |
| 14:50.26 | lcuk | pulling entire git repo for something heavily used is tortuous |
| 14:50.27 | ebzzry | ruskie: thanks for providing non-SSL access to your repo |
| 14:50.44 | MohammadAG | even with --progress and -v |
| 14:50.50 | ruskie | ebzzry, well you were the first to be bothered about it |
| 14:50.59 | ruskie | haven't gotten a single person complaining about it yet |
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| 14:51.24 | lcuk | troutometer [><{{{*>------------] |
| 14:51.35 | ebzzry | ruskie: my associates, by the way, experienced it too. =) |
| 14:51.43 | ruskie | interestingmeter [-----------] |
| 14:52.00 | ruskie | ebzzry, well had no issue on the n900 |
| 14:52.18 | ebzzry | ruskie: Anyway, it's good to see Zsh on your repo. =) |
| 14:52.23 | ruskie | :) |
| 14:52.34 | lcuk | MohammadAG, which repo are you cloning thats not giving feedback of progress? |
| 14:53.43 | MohammadAG | hen's repo on https://vcs.maemo.org/git |
| 14:53.56 | ruskie | fatal: https://vcs.maemo.org/git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? |
| 14:54.30 | crashanddie | that repo is fucked up |
| 14:54.31 | MohammadAG | https://vcs.maemo.org/git/h-e-n |
| 14:54.43 | MohammadAG | very |
| 14:55.10 | MohammadAG | and slow |
| 14:55.14 | GAN900 | ruskie, yeah, sadly no voice recorders installed at the moment. |
| 14:55.18 | ruskie | ahh |
| 14:55.18 | wazd | guys, I'm participating in "the most n00bish question 2010" contest |
| 14:55.38 | wazd | how can I make wget to work on n900? :) |
| 14:56.00 | alterego | burps |
| 14:56.07 | wazd | ah, nm |
| 14:56.09 | alterego | Sorting out meh costume. |
| 14:56.14 | wazd | I guess I've already found it |
| 14:56.14 | MohammadAG | apt-get install wget |
| 14:56.52 | wazd | MohammadAG: yeah, thanks :) |
| 14:57.05 | wazd | wish me luck in winning! :D |
| 14:57.29 | DocScrutinizer | wget --no-check-certificate https://bugs.maemo.org/attachment.cgi?id=2705 -O libvte4_0.16.14-0mh9.m5_armel.deb |
| 14:57.44 | wazd | btw, anyone got any explaination why the conference was cancelled? |
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| 14:58.36 | alterego | What conference? |
| 15:01.06 | wazd | alterego: Meego one |
| 15:01.17 | GAN900 | wazd, was it cancelled? |
| 15:01.36 | GAN900 | Is that how they declined peoples' sponsorship requests? :P |
| 15:01.49 | jannau | wazd: what makes you think it was cancelled? http://conference2010.meego.com/ |
| 15:01.54 | wazd | GAN900: damn, it's pretty tough to scare people via IRC :D |
| 15:01.57 | alterego | wazd: it's not cancelled .. |
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| 15:03.15 | ZogG | wazd you are scaring me |
| 15:03.26 | wazd | ZogG: good :D |
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| 15:04.11 | ZogG | =( |
| 15:04.57 | GAN900 | Who's getting in Sunday morning? |
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| 15:39.21 | wellef | Ive got some problem with the autobuilder and, as far as I can see, Jeremiah isnt online.. Could anyone be kind helping me, please? |
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| 15:40.18 | MohammadAG | what's the problem? |
| 15:41.29 | CharmingPrince | Enter text here...hi there |
| 15:41.36 | CharmingPrince | any girl want chat |
| 15:41.42 | wellef | Earlier today I uploaded my package (savepress) to extras-devel. Ive now tried upload a update but it fails and I cant figure out whats failing... |
| 15:42.19 | luke-jr | CharmingPrince: girls don't use IRC |
| 15:42.27 | MohammadAG | luke-jr, lies |
| 15:42.32 | luke-jr | MohammadAG: no u |
| 15:42.34 | CharmingPrince | ha ha ha |
| 15:42.39 | CharmingPrince | zzzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 15:43.21 | MohammadAG | wellef, can you try to upload the same package again? |
| 15:44.04 | MohammadAG | wellef, found it |
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| 15:44.18 | MohammadAG | wellef, you can't have line breaks in debian/control:Description |
| 15:44.24 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, wait |
| 15:44.39 | MohammadAG | CharmingPrince, what's 10+1? |
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| 15:45.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | walking |
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| 15:45.34 | wellef | MohammadAG, aah. Is there a walkaround? |
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| 15:45.49 | MohammadAG | wellef, yes, replace the line break with a . |
| 15:45.59 | CharmingPrince | 101 lol |
| 15:46.07 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.09 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.09 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.29 | MohammadAG | wellef, like that ^? |
| 15:46.38 | wellef | MohammadAG, thank you very much :) |
| 15:46.39 | MohammadAG | err, ignore the "?" |
| 15:46.52 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer51, he/she/it left |
| 15:46.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm |
| 15:46.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | k |
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| 15:47.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | did a /whois ? |
| 15:47.38 | MohammadAG | * [CharmingPrince] (~CharmingP@41.136.218.191): CharmingPrince |
| 15:47.43 | MohammadAG | /whowas ftw :P |
| 15:48.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | thnx |
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| 15:55.19 | zap | Anybody knows where I can see minimal docs on /etc/powervr.ini ? |
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| 16:04.49 | lardman|home | https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mbarcode-plugin-pythonqtwrapper_0.0.1-0/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt any ideas chaps? |
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| 16:06.02 | lardman|home | doh!, seen it myself buried in the errors |
| 16:08.08 | lardman|home | wonders if the autobuilder is getting tired of trying to build this plugin... :) |
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| 16:16.05 | RST38h | heya lardman, all |
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| 16:16.46 | wellef | MohammadAG, still didnt work.. |
| 16:17.54 | lardman|home | hi RST38h and everyone else |
| 16:19.51 | lardman|home | rrr dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libPythonQt.so.1 (used by debian/mbarcode-plugin-pythonqtwrapper/usr/share/mbarcode/plugins/libmbarcode_pythonqtwrapperplugin.so). |
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| 16:20.53 | lardman|home | I don't really understand why scratchbox builds report errors while the autobuilder reports errors |
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| 16:22.37 | wamty | "depends: python-2.5-qt4-core but is not going to be installed" |
| 16:22.45 | wamty | im on maemo5 :) |
| 16:24.10 | MohammadAG51 | hostmode gained huge momentum :P |
| 16:24.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think there's aptitude on maemo, too... if you can install that, you can say "aptitude why-not python-2.5-qt4-core" |
| 16:24.28 | ShadowJK | well this is strange, this "high capacity" battery shows up as 1499 maH after I manually told bq27200 to assume 1250mAh, and completed a learning cycle.. |
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| 16:24.39 | lardman|home | iirc it conflicts with pr1.3 |
| 16:24.43 | SpeedEvil | Interesting |
| 16:24.46 | ShadowJK | was expecting less than 1200 |
| 16:25.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, no, seems there's not... I must have imagined seeing it :( |
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| 16:25.58 | SpeedEvil | umm - isn't 1250->1499 greater than one max learn increment? |
| 16:26.01 | SpeedEvil | Ithought it was 1/8 |
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| 16:26.26 | ShadowJK | oh was it 1/8 or 1/6? |
| 16:26.29 | wamty | aptitude is not ported on maemo! |
| 16:26.30 | wamty | :( |
| 16:26.59 | ShadowJK | oh man there's a calculator app in maemo5 |
| 16:27.01 | MohammadAG51 | I ported it, sorta |
| 16:27.17 | MohammadAG51 | but libcwidget is broken, so it segfaults on some devices |
| 16:27.17 | ShadowJK | stops typing in "echo $((1959/8))..." in sh |
| 16:27.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | wamty, then you can only go along the dependencies by trying to install... so apt-get install python-2.5-qt4-core, see why that doesnt work etc. |
| 16:27.22 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 16:27.26 | SpeedEvil | apt-get install bc |
| 16:27.58 | lardman|home | in here: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/mbarcode-plugin-pythonqtwrapper_0.0.1-0/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt |
| 16:28.01 | wamty | tried that |
| 16:28.08 | wamty | thats for me lardman? |
| 16:28.14 | lardman|home | I get a no dependency information found error right at the bottom |
| 16:28.22 | ShadowJK | SpeedEvil, yeah you're right, 1499 is on a 1/8th step-down from defaults |
| 16:28.25 | lardman|home | wamty: no, I've a separate question |
| 16:28.39 | wamty | CutMeOwnThroat, ended in "but somethingcompletely else is going to be installed" |
| 16:29.05 | ShadowJK | I guess it didn't want to downlearn that much even when I did 1250 -> AR, AR->NAC sequence |
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| 16:29.15 | lardman|home | What I'm wondering is why it's looking for dep info from /usr/lib/libPythonQt.so.1 rather than /usr/lib/libPythonQt.so.1.0, and how I should fix this problem? |
| 16:29.45 | wamty | any suggestions? |
| 16:29.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | wamty, that's a bit vague |
| 16:30.02 | wamty | what should I do now |
| 16:30.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | I can answer in the same fashion... yes, twiddle this, install something and deinstall something else... |
| 16:30.18 | lardman|home | s/so.1.0/so.1.0.0 |
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| 16:35.04 | wamty | it was going to install something completely else |
| 16:35.05 | wamty | sir |
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| 16:35.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's the message you get? |
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| 16:36.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's pastebinit in extras-devel |
| 16:39.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | wamty, and aptitude is also in extras-devel |
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| 16:42.29 | timeless_xchat | sighs |
| 16:42.55 | timeless_xchat | n900 usb port failure |
| 16:43.28 | SpeedEvil | Noooooo! |
| 16:43.35 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 16:44.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, port |
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| 16:45.01 | lardman|home | cu later chaps |
| 16:47.01 | timeless_xchat | what's the cheapest nokia phone that uses the BL-5J? |
| 16:47.33 | MohammadAG | 5800 |
| 16:47.49 | MohammadAG | suggests an external charger |
| 16:47.59 | MohammadAG | or get a broken N95, the battery fits and chargers, sorta |
| 16:48.11 | MohammadAG | it sticks out, but it chargers |
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| 16:49.59 | timeless_xchat | is there a page listing all suggestions? |
| 16:51.21 | MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, I use a http://cgi.ebay.com/Desktop-Charger-Nokia-Battery-BL5J-5800-XpressMusic-/220531901109?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3358b9c2b5 though my port hasn't failed |
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| 16:51.52 | MohammadAG | (yet, *knocks on wood*) |
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| 16:52.28 | johnsq | Hi |
| 16:52.34 | jacekowski | timeless_xchat: failed as in not working? |
| 16:52.40 | jacekowski | timeless_xchat: or you managed to pull it out? |
| 16:53.19 | MohammadAG | timeless_xchat, for a compatibility list, http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/power/batteries/nokia-battery-bl-5j/compatibility |
| 16:53.27 | MohammadAG | but that doesn't phones in which it sticks out |
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| 16:55.53 | timeless_xchat | jacekowski: probably near to the latter |
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| 16:56.55 | real_ate | hi everyone... is there a maemo dev channel too? |
| 16:57.07 | MohammadAG | #maemo-devel |
| 16:57.24 | real_ate | MohammadAG: Cheers! |
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| 16:58.03 | fcrochik | anybody here also playing with meego? I am trying to install the sdk/qemu and can't get it to work... |
| 16:58.23 | jacekowski | timeless_xchat: thing is that i can't charge from charger |
| 16:58.29 | jacekowski | timeless_xchat: but i can charge from usb cable |
| 16:59.03 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: no, hostmode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=857496#post857496 |
| 16:59.03 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer |
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| 17:01.12 | trumee | anybody with working scratchbox? |
| 17:01.30 | trumee | can somebody build this package for N900, http://simon-butler.com/software/autoconnect.tar.gz |
| 17:01.50 | trumee | it is from here btw, http://simon-butler.com/software/autoconnect.tar.gz |
| 17:01.56 | trumee | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3399 |
| 17:01.57 | povbot | Bug 3399: Will not auto connect to WPA-Enterprise |
| 17:02.22 | jacekowski | i can |
| 17:02.23 | jacekowski | probably |
| 17:03.30 | timeless_mbp | trumee: eww |
| 17:03.33 | timeless_mbp | that'd ruin me |
| 17:03.44 | timeless_mbp | instead of my n900 picking a useful internet enabled network |
| 17:03.53 | timeless_mbp | it'd pick my employer's presence broken network |
| 17:04.16 | jacekowski | trumee: is it for 1.3? |
| 17:04.36 | trumee | jacekowski: it is a qt code, should work in Pr1.3 i guess |
| 17:04.49 | jacekowski | well, it's not working in 1.2 |
| 17:04.54 | jacekowski | i mean not compiling |
| 17:05.54 | trumee | "using the new Qt Mobility Bearer API" does it mean PR1.3? |
| 17:06.24 | jacekowski | dunno |
| 17:06.36 | jacekowski | let me finish upgrading my scratchbox |
| 17:06.43 | trumee | The code was posted in PR1.2 era. |
| 17:07.17 | trumee | timeless_mbp: i suppose it will be possible to specify the ssid in the code. |
| 17:08.02 | wellef | MohammadAG, could you please have a look at my last try (savepress) and tell me what im doing wrong? :-/ |
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| 17:10.01 | MohammadAG | wellef, you didn't do what I asked you to |
| 17:10.05 | MohammadAG | replace the line breaks with a . |
| 17:10.48 | lcuk | MohammadAG, show him one that works |
| 17:10.54 | lcuk | to explain problem better |
| 17:11.00 | MohammadAG | I did ;) |
| 17:11.12 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.14 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.15 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.30 | MohammadAG | looks at git |
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| 17:11.57 | MohammadAG | wellef, http://gitorious.org/psfreedomui/psfreedomui/blobs/master/debian/control line 14 |
| 17:12.09 | MohammadAG | needs to update that... |
| 17:12.13 | lcuk | :) |
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| 17:12.35 | wellef | Uhm.... My changes-file looks like that.. |
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| 17:13.26 | timeless_mbp | rotfl |
| 17:13.35 | jacekowski | trumee: i it's not working in pr1.3 |
| 17:13.37 | timeless_mbp | "US Objects To the Kilogram" |
| 17:14.01 | jacekowski | trumee: hmm, nvm |
| 17:14.04 | jacekowski | trumee: it's working |
| 17:14.10 | MohammadAG | wellef, did you rebuild the deb? |
| 17:14.24 | MohammadAG | lcuk, any idea how I could make git reparse everything? |
| 17:14.24 | lcuk | give it a new version number! |
| 17:14.28 | MohammadAG | I moved some files around |
| 17:14.36 | MohammadAG | lcuk, no, a FAILED build can be replaced |
| 17:14.40 | lcuk | git add * ? |
| 17:14.45 | jacekowski | trumee: do you want it? |
| 17:14.53 | MohammadAG | that would make dupes :/ |
| 17:15.13 | lcuk | Mojust do git status |
| 17:15.17 | wellef | Just edited the .changes.. |
| 17:15.22 | lcuk | it will say "arghhh files removed or something |
| 17:15.23 | jacekowski | trumee: http://maemo.jacekowski.org/binary/autoconnect |
| 17:15.25 | MohammadAG | no |
| 17:15.28 | MohammadAG | you don't edit .changes |
| 17:15.33 | MohammadAG | you edit debian/control |
| 17:15.41 | MohammadAG | then make a new package with dpkg-buildpackage -b |
| 17:15.49 | jacekowski | and changelog |
| 17:15.51 | wellef | Aaaah. Okey |
| 17:15.52 | jacekowski | with dch |
| 17:16.12 | MohammadAG | has never used dch |
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| 17:20.59 | MohammadAG | thanks lcuk |
| 17:21.23 | lcuk | MohammadAG, ? |
| 17:21.27 | lcuk | did i borken it |
| 17:22.06 | MohammadAG | lcuk, lol no |
| 17:22.14 | lcuk | phew |
| 17:22.15 | lcuk | :P |
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| 17:22.28 | MohammadAG | lcuk, I deleted gitorious.org |
| 17:22.37 | lcuk | oh, everyone does that |
| 17:22.41 | lcuk | at least once |
| 17:23.09 | lcuk | i once had a firefox plugin, that let you select and remove parts of web pages |
| 17:23.17 | lcuk | tracy went rampaging through slashdot |
| 17:23.23 | lcuk | removing the entire front page piece by piece |
| 17:23.37 | lcuk | then had a pang of guilt and asked if she had removed it for everyone |
| 17:23.39 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 17:23.58 | MohammadAG | lemme guess, you said yes to have fun? :P |
| 17:24.03 | lcuk | of course |
| 17:24.10 | lcuk | geek code to adhere to |
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| 17:24.32 | Myrtti | geekcode? surely you don't mean the one people use in their signatures |
| 17:24.43 | lcuk | Myrtti, not the written one |
| 17:25.26 | Myrtti | lcuk: not http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=11575#post11575 one? |
| 17:25.45 | Myrtti | just teasing |
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| 17:27.14 | wellef | MohammadAG, worked. Thanks a billion for your time :) |
| 17:27.20 | trumee | jacekowski: thank you |
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| 17:27.29 | lcuk | smiles at 5+++ |
| 17:27.56 | MohammadAG | wellef, you're welcome :) |
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| 17:28.20 | jdphone | ~pr1.3 |
| 17:28.20 | infobot | i guess pr1.3 is the latest (and probably last) software update for Fremantle, available since Monday October 25 2010. More information at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.3 -- see ~flashing for how to update |
| 17:28.32 | jdphone | ~flashing |
| 17:28.32 | infobot | flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 17:34.20 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: did you look/laugh at HC? |
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| 17:35.05 | trumee | jacekowski: it works. thank you very much. |
| 17:35.19 | trumee | timeless_mbp: hope that bug 3399 is squashed one day. |
| 17:35.21 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/3399 Will not auto connect to WPA-Enterprise |
| 17:35.39 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, link? lol |
| 17:35.52 | timeless_mbp | trumee: generally i'd agree |
| 17:35.52 | Noobmonk3y | i sent u the file! - well gave u the link lol |
| 17:35.58 | timeless_mbp | but personally i think the whole design is broken |
| 17:35.59 | lcuk | Noobmonk3y, |
| 17:36.12 | timeless_mbp | whether i want to autoconnect to a network is a per network pref |
| 17:36.12 | lcuk | i have said before, calling it HC and asking people to look/laugh at it |
| 17:36.16 | lcuk | makes me giggle |
| 17:36.17 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, where? lol |
| 17:36.29 | Noobmonk3y | is just here to make lcuk laugh and giggle ;) |
| 17:36.30 | MohammadAG | MohammadAG51 is dead, testing hostmode on the N900 |
| 17:36.39 | Noobmonk3y | lol Mo |
| 17:36.48 | Noobmonk3y | pm'd you |
| 17:36.56 | Noobmonk3y | tis an old v now, as i'm marching on |
| 17:37.28 | MohammadAG | waits till download finishes before he pressing enter after "ROFLMFAO" |
| 17:37.49 | MohammadAG | now now Noobmonk3y, that's the build! |
| 17:37.57 | Noobmonk3y | ? |
| 17:38.05 | Noobmonk3y | thats the code too! |
| 17:38.10 | MohammadAG | clean binaries next time :P |
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| 17:38.15 | Noobmonk3y | oh |
| 17:38.16 | Noobmonk3y | lol |
| 17:38.22 | Noobmonk3y | well you didnt say what to send you lol |
| 17:38.27 | Noobmonk3y | coulda just sent u a deb lol |
| 17:38.33 | thp | how can i get the name of the currently-selected theme (i.e. the folder name in /usr/share/themes of the currently-selected theme)? |
| 17:38.44 | Noobmonk3y | thp now that is a good question |
| 17:38.49 | Noobmonk3y | when you find out can you let me know ;) |
| 17:39.13 | MohammadAG | thp, if you find an answer, do forward it to me :) |
| 17:39.55 | thp | hehe ;) that's a hot topic, huh? |
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| 17:40.51 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, UI is sexy |
| 17:40.56 | MohammadAG | looks at code, pukes :P |
| 17:40.58 | Noobmonk3y | smiles - yay!!!! |
| 17:41.04 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: did you expect any different? |
| 17:41.14 | Noobmonk3y | with the code anyway! |
| 17:41.28 | MohammadAG | yes lol |
| 17:41.31 | MohammadAG | btw |
| 17:41.39 | MohammadAG | why doesn't the UI work on Ubuntu |
| 17:41.50 | Noobmonk3y | no idea |
| 17:41.55 | Noobmonk3y | added maemo5 to the code maybe? |
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| 17:42.16 | Noobmonk3y | QT += core gui maemo5 |
| 17:42.22 | thp | Noobmonk3y, MohammadAG: got it.. /etc/hildon/theme is a symlink to the current theme |
| 17:42.22 | Noobmonk3y | maybe? |
| 17:42.33 | Noobmonk3y | smiles at thp, and in a non sexual way! |
| 17:42.40 | Noobmonk3y | thank you thp! |
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| 17:43.02 | Myrtti | rolls her eyes |
| 17:43.13 | Noobmonk3y | dances on Myrtti's rolling eyes |
| 17:43.24 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, includes go in .h, :) |
| 17:43.30 | Noobmonk3y | meh meh |
| 17:43.47 | Noobmonk3y | except for the .h includes you mean? |
| 17:44.03 | MohammadAG | yes, like <QString> in hcmainwindow.cpp |
| 17:44.08 | Noobmonk3y | moved :0 ty |
| 17:44.14 | MohammadAG | you have it included twice lol |
| 17:44.15 | Noobmonk3y | they where already in there oh well :P |
| 17:44.18 | Noobmonk3y | hehe |
| 17:44.22 | Noobmonk3y | gotta make sure, ya know :P |
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| 17:44.49 | Noobmonk3y | now all i need to figure out is qprocess and the first window is done ;) |
| 17:44.57 | Noobmonk3y | i personally blame lcuk, meh ;) |
| 17:45.08 | MohammadAG | though really, it should work on ubuntu |
| 17:45.17 | MohammadAG | that's what Qt's about |
| 17:45.21 | Noobmonk3y | probably, but, but... i dont care about ubuntu :) |
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| 17:45.37 | Noobmonk3y | i'm calling soooo many specific maemo stuff that i dont mind |
| 17:45.50 | Noobmonk3y | and i'm doing it really only for maemo, until i get a meego device |
| 17:46.11 | Noobmonk3y | or possibly *holds breath* symbian ;) |
| 17:46.30 | MohammadAG | what does battery free mean? |
| 17:46.55 | Noobmonk3y | % free |
| 17:47.03 | Noobmonk3y | and it doesnt mean that |
| 17:47.07 | Noobmonk3y | cos i've changed it |
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| 17:47.37 | Noobmonk3y | its actually battery temp, and it determines if you have the correct kernel or not :) |
| 17:47.46 | Noobmonk3y | otherwise displays a polite fuck off ;) |
| 17:47.49 | MohammadAG | I noticed that part |
| 17:48.01 | Noobmonk3y | has altered the code quite a bit this evening |
| 17:48.28 | Noobmonk3y | anyway |
| 17:48.30 | Noobmonk3y | like the idea? |
| 17:48.35 | Noobmonk3y | stacked widgets work ok :) |
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| 17:50.30 | MohammadAG | empty window on ubuntu |
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| 17:50.34 | Noobmonk3y | ;) |
| 17:50.36 | Noobmonk3y | lol |
| 17:50.36 | MohammadAG | curses trouts |
| 17:50.41 | Noobmonk3y | run it on ya device :P |
| 17:50.51 | MohammadAG | i did |
| 17:50.56 | Noobmonk3y | did it not work? |
| 17:51.01 | MohammadAG | likes the about screen |
| 17:51.11 | nuovodna | hi, where can i find a PR 1.3 compatible package of transmission torrent client? |
| 17:51.17 | Noobmonk3y | :) :) |
| 17:51.27 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 17:51.37 | MohammadAG | clicked your link, crashed half the about screen |
| 17:51.51 | Noobmonk3y | hehe yeah |
| 17:51.54 | Noobmonk3y | need to sort that ;) |
| 17:51.59 | Noobmonk3y | will use a webkit i think |
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| 18:00.16 | timeless_mbp | sighs |
| 18:00.22 | timeless_mbp | so, my DVR has a wonderful feature |
| 18:00.30 | timeless_mbp | if the disk is full when it tries to record a program |
| 18:00.32 | Noobmonk3y | meh two fields to go - both need qporcess working ;) |
| 18:00.39 | timeless_mbp | it tosses up a dialog box on the screen saying "disk is full" <ok> |
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| 18:00.49 | timeless_mbp | you have to dismiss the dialog to continue watching the program |
| 18:00.57 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 18:01.03 | timeless_mbp | and each time it tries to record a new program, it gives you the dialog |
| 18:01.03 | Noobmonk3y | timeless_mbp, sounds genius, does it text you "naaa naaa na naaa naaaaa"? |
| 18:01.12 | timeless_mbp | Noobmonk3y: sadly it doesn't |
| 18:01.16 | Noobmonk3y | ;) hehehe |
| 18:01.17 | MohammadAG | LOL |
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| 18:01.26 | timeless_mbp | if it did, i could probably use that entrypoint to attack it |
| 18:01.27 | MohammadAG | needs to switch to QProcess |
| 18:01.49 | Noobmonk3y | farts |
| 18:02.14 | Noobmonk3y | So MohammadAG your task in the next 20 minutes is to get qprocess working for me lol |
| 18:02.19 | Noobmonk3y | then i have to cook dinner ;) |
| 18:02.25 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 18:02.29 | Noobmonk3y | or should i just use popen? |
| 18:02.33 | Noobmonk3y | as it will probably work ;) |
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| 18:02.38 | MohammadAG | NO |
| 18:02.45 | Noobmonk3y | will use it then lol |
| 18:02.52 | MohammadAG | calling a shell to read values isn't good |
| 18:03.01 | Myrtti | lcuk: can you remember the place I pointed you to for the N900 stickers? |
| 18:03.05 | MohammadAG | wastes memory, makes the UI slow |
| 18:03.14 | Noobmonk3y | hehehe |
| 18:05.21 | Myrtti | graaaaaaahhhhh |
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| 18:07.34 | Noobmonk3y | lol |
| 18:07.40 | Noobmonk3y | graaaaaaaaahhhh to you too ;) |
| 18:08.17 | Myrtti | yeeeesss...? |
| 18:08.59 | MohammadAG | this pic is win http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/10/500x_mobilesuits.jpg |
| 18:08.59 | Noobmonk3y | was just politely replying to your graaaaaaaaahhhh |
| 18:09.13 | Noobmonk3y | lol it all points to nokia |
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| 18:09.27 | MohammadAG | out of* |
| 18:09.29 | Noobmonk3y | oracle and google are soulmates ;) |
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| 18:09.52 | MohammadAG | those are lawsuits btw |
| 18:09.54 | Noobmonk3y | Sharp, samsung & motorola (and htc) lol! |
| 18:10.06 | Noobmonk3y | kodak have done pretty well ;) |
| 18:10.20 | Noobmonk3y | yeah Mo, the title gives it away ;) |
| 18:10.34 | lcuk | Myrtti, hold on |
| 18:10.41 | lcuk | i sent link to tracy |
| 18:11.28 | Myrtti | I had to peel my gelaskin stickers off my phone and I'm not sure will they stick when I get it back |
| 18:11.30 | Noobmonk3y | and you where probably 10ft from each other when you sent it to her ;) |
| 18:11.35 | Myrtti | so I might need to look for new stickers |
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| 18:12.39 | Myrtti | Noobmonk3y: I use delicious for that in any case, no matter how far SO is |
| 18:12.54 | Myrtti | (and this time I will stick the bloody link on delicious too) |
| 18:14.50 | SpeedEvil | Myrtti: wha sort of time? |
| 18:14.58 | SpeedEvil | Myrtti: sickers |
| 18:15.26 | Myrtti | SpeedEvil: you no sense make, young padawan |
| 18:15.53 | SpeedEvil | Myrtti: I was trying to grep |
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| 18:16.30 | Myrtti | Between 14th of April and 15th of May |
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| 18:17.17 | lcuk | Myrtti, http://www.istyles.com/nokia-nokia-n900-c-292_567_700.html |
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| 18:18.50 | Myrtti | brilliant ⥠|
| 18:18.57 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 18:19.34 | Myrtti | hmmm pink burberry... |
| 18:20.52 | Myrtti | oh well, I suppose I should wait until I get it back first from the service place |
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| 18:23.33 | Noobmonk3y | has never used delicious |
| 18:23.35 | Noobmonk3y | whats it for? |
| 18:24.00 | Myrtti | bookmarks |
| 18:24.04 | Myrtti | and sharing them |
| 18:27.27 | timeless_mbp | oh, the dvr still says "REC" on the front |
| 18:27.27 | timeless_mbp | i'm not sure where it's recording.. |
| 18:27.29 | Noobmonk3y | ohhhh |
| 18:27.35 | Noobmonk3y | theres a geeky tool for everything |
| 18:27.41 | nid0 | probably busily overwriting the last thing you recorded |
| 18:27.45 | Noobmonk3y | now where is the missus.... she needs a phone lol |
| 18:28.07 | timeless_mbp | nid0: the last 50 or so things all "recorded" w/ a full disk.. |
| 18:29.29 | Myrtti | I suppose döner for dinner on consecutive nights is a bad idea |
| 18:29.40 | Myrtti | ... pasta it is then |
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| 18:31.34 | D-man | Guys, how would I install package libsqlite3-dev , apt-get says that it's not available but is referred to by another package.. |
| 18:32.37 | MohammadAG | on device? |
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| 18:34.00 | D-man | yes.. |
| 18:34.56 | D-man | pr1.3 if it matters :) |
| 18:35.46 | MohammadAG | you need the SDK |
| 18:35.49 | MohammadAG | or a chroot |
| 18:36.01 | MohammadAG | or SDK repo links in sources.list, but that will easily fill your / |
| 18:36.04 | RST38h | has looked into somebody's Z80 emulator and understood what a clusterfuck is |
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| 18:37.02 | RST38h | if(CPU.A & 0x80) { /* Let us hope nobody does JP M,xxxx after operation not involving A */ } |
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| 18:37.32 | GNU\caustic | :) |
| 18:37.42 | RST38h | Some people are funny. Has he REALLY thought nobody does JP M,xxxx after something like IN B,(C) ? |
| 18:39.54 | Noobmonk3y | blinks |
| 18:39.58 | javispedro | hello world. |
| 18:40.07 | RST38h | hello javispedro. login please. |
| 18:40.32 | javispedro | > joshua |
| 18:41.18 | derf | Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess? |
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| 18:42.49 | D-man | Oh great.. you mean all the sdk repos? |
| 18:46.07 | javispedro | alsa -- grrr |
| 18:46.29 | javispedro | what's with this three layers of abstraction, all of them part of the official public api |
| 18:47.51 | MohammadAG | D-man, get the SDK |
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| 18:49.17 | RST38h | javis: Authors had both Asperger's and megalomania |
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| 18:50.06 | RST38h | Were going to design the Supreme Audio API ThatIs Suitable For Every Imaginable Use |
| 18:50.30 | javispedro | no wonder people just system() the mixer binary and manipulate it via popen or cmd line args where possible instead of using the insane api |
| 18:51.40 | javispedro | RST38h: also shocking are "whatever_alsa_struct_calloc"-#defines |
| 18:52.05 | javispedro | what's wrong with the plain C syntax to allocate a struct on the stack? |
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| 18:53.56 | D-man | MohammadAG: Um.. I have it... I just given up on trying to do anything on it. It's an overkill. |
| 18:55.50 | javispedro | tries to gather source code from any project in order to try to make any sense out of hctl |
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| 19:16.50 | Noobmonk3y | returnethhhhhh |
| 19:16.56 | Noobmonk3y | is off to do the washing up! |
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| 19:26.38 | frett | hi guys |
| 19:26.48 | frett | got a quick question |
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| 19:27.06 | frett | is the n900 kernel a "file"? such as **.bin? |
| 19:27.45 | frett | the thing is, that im trying to install archmobile, and it needs you to cp the kernel to the arch |
| 19:29.36 | Noobmonk3y | returneth again |
| 19:29.51 | Noobmonk3y | ooo frett wake MohammadAG up :P |
| 19:30.24 | MohammadAG | the kernel is on /dev/mtd2(iirc) |
| 19:30.34 | MohammadAG | and no, it's a zImage that is flashed to that partition |
| 19:30.46 | chupy35 | hi, i fucked it up, i was getting some rootfs space but i remove /usr/lib/locale/ languages files or whatever it is like ar_something, now my phone menus is like technical like instead of media player is mp_ti_mp |
| 19:31.00 | Noobmonk3y | lol! |
| 19:31.09 | Noobmonk3y | removed the language files? :P |
| 19:31.14 | Noobmonk3y | backup - then reflash ;P |
| 19:31.27 | chupy35 | :S |
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| 19:31.31 | Noobmonk3y | hehe |
| 19:31.33 | frals | did you not expect the language to disappear if you removed the language files? :P |
| 19:31.50 | chupy35 | i dont want to reflash please, i just conserved en and es files |
| 19:31.50 | Noobmonk3y | frals: shhhhhhhh they are starting to think i am intellamegent |
| 19:32.21 | Noobmonk3y | chupy, sensibley ... dont accept random files from other people - the safest way is to reflash, but... |
| 19:32.22 | frett | MohammadAG so it is not possible to just cp the kernel? |
| 19:32.27 | chupy35 | can someone share me his /usr/lib/locale |
| 19:32.30 | Noobmonk3y | if you really want i'll go hunt that folder out and upload em |
| 19:32.40 | Noobmonk3y | evening frals |
| 19:32.42 | chupy35 | thanks that will be helpfull |
| 19:32.45 | Noobmonk3y | chupy, gimme 10 mins :) |
| 19:32.52 | chupy35 | ok thanks :D |
| 19:33.02 | frals | ello Noobmonk3y |
| 19:33.12 | MohammadAG | chupy35, you need en_GB |
| 19:33.16 | MohammadAG | or en_US |
| 19:33.18 | MohammadAG | not just en |
| 19:33.23 | Noobmonk3y | :p |
| 19:33.24 | chupy35 | i have that ones |
| 19:33.28 | chupy35 | the others |
| 19:33.36 | chupy35 | i remove them |
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| 19:33.53 | Noobmonk3y | which do you need? lol |
| 19:34.04 | MohammadAG | frett, I've never heard of cping the tutorial |
| 19:34.09 | MohammadAG | Noobmonk3y, upload all of them :P |
| 19:34.10 | Noobmonk3y | hehe |
| 19:34.25 | chupy35 | all the /usr/lib/locale please |
| 19:34.30 | Noobmonk3y | ok, dloading, will zip them and upload |
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| 19:34.45 | chupy35 | thanks |
| 19:34.47 | Noobmonk3y | if winscp decides to uncrash on me! |
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| 19:36.04 | Noobmonk3y | it's copying :P |
| 19:36.07 | Noobmonk3y | sloooooooooooooowly |
| 19:36.10 | chupy35 | thanks |
| 19:36.11 | frett | Well, anybody ever made ArchMobile work on the n900 |
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| 19:36.15 | Noobmonk3y | omg, did you delete a feck ass folder! |
| 19:36.44 | Noobmonk3y | quickly replaces english with pirate english, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no-one would ever know ;) |
| 19:36.59 | chupy35 | what? XD |
| 19:37.10 | Noobmonk3y | lol i was only joking ;) |
| 19:37.22 | Noobmonk3y | 15% copied! lol |
| 19:38.05 | Noobmonk3y | 10 mins remaining on copy, so add 2 mins to package and upload to ftp - and it's all yours ;) |
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| 19:39.58 | chupy35_ | sorry Noobmonk3y also my wifi sucks |
| 19:40.18 | chupy35_ | cheap router |
| 19:41.24 | Noobmonk3y | not a prob |
| 19:41.32 | Noobmonk3y | once i'm done it's all up to you to dload |
| 19:41.44 | Noobmonk3y | it will be in a zip or rar file, up to you:P |
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| 19:43.08 | chupy35_ | whatever you want |
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| 19:43.52 | chupy35_ | look how it looks http://a.yfrog.com/img100/9906/bqi.png |
| 19:43.54 | Noobmonk3y | 5mb, just uploading |
| 19:44.08 | Noobmonk3y | lol thats the programming vars, i like |
| 19:44.50 | chupy35_ | but everything is like that, is not nice |
| 19:45.02 | Noobmonk3y | chupwww.greg-roberts.com/locale.zip |
| 19:45.05 | Noobmonk3y | done chupy35_ |
| 19:45.08 | MohammadAG | chupy35_, you should see mine when I corrupted some stuff |
| 19:45.12 | Noobmonk3y | www.greg-roberts.com/locale.zip even |
| 19:45.14 | MohammadAG | shoud've seen* |
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| 19:45.33 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: when you corrupt something, it causes george Bush to stutter it corrupts that bad |
| 19:45.46 | chupy35_ | thanks Noobmonk3y, hope that works |
| 19:45.54 | MohammadAG | doesn't he always :P |
| 19:45.54 | Noobmonk3y | is crossing fingers and toes |
| 19:46.00 | Noobmonk3y | exactley my point ;) |
| 19:46.14 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: the misses is making chocolate for me! |
| 19:46.15 | chupy35_ | troyan.exe O.o lol |
| 19:46.25 | Noobmonk3y | (not that melt premade stuff) but from the raw ingredients! |
| 19:46.32 | Noobmonk3y | lols |
| 19:46.41 | MohammadAG | http://i51.tinypic.com/143oxsk.jpg chupy35_ |
| 19:46.57 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: how dare you release the new Healthcheck pic ;) |
| 19:46.57 | Noobmonk3y | lol |
| 19:47.20 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 19:47.38 | MohammadAG | you have to admit though, that's a nice corruption |
| 19:47.43 | Noobmonk3y | yup! |
| 19:47.47 | chupy35_ | damn, that is worst |
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| 19:47.53 | chupy35_ | dont play with ssh |
| 19:47.55 | chupy35_ | lol |
| 19:47.57 | Venemo_N900 | hi |
| 19:47.58 | Noobmonk3y | pity things still look almost normal, if it looked like iphone4, i woulda given ya 10/10 |
| 19:48.05 | MohammadAG | you should see the menu :P |
| 19:48.07 | Venemo_N900 | anyone used Transmission yet? |
| 19:48.11 | Noobmonk3y | not me |
| 19:48.17 | Noobmonk3y | lo venemo :) |
| 19:48.26 | MohammadAG | chupy35_, http://i56.tinypic.com/2e2i1kl.jpg <-- best pic eva |
| 19:48.35 | Venemo_N900 | it says "port is closed" for any port I tried to add |
| 19:48.36 | Noobmonk3y | lol ok i agree, that is cool |
| 19:48.41 | Venemo_N900 | hey MohammadAG51 |
| 19:48.46 | MohammadAG | heya Venemo_N900 |
| 19:48.50 | Noobmonk3y | Venemo_N900: it thinks you smell.... not good :( |
| 19:48.54 | chupy35_ | is that locale problem or what? |
| 19:49.02 | chupy35_ | do u reflash? |
| 19:49.05 | MohammadAG | no, corrupt /home (including /opt) |
| 19:49.10 | Noobmonk3y | chupy35_: MohammadAG plays with more then the locales lol |
| 19:49.17 | MohammadAG | NFS Stale Handle |
| 19:49.30 | Noobmonk3y | he's trying to turn his phone into a new kind of god i think |
| 19:49.32 | MohammadAG | so I couldn't rm or do anything except backup what was left, then flash |
| 19:49.41 | Venemo_N900 | so, any ideas? |
| 19:49.45 | MohammadAG | and what was left wasn't really a lot :P |
| 19:49.52 | Noobmonk3y | Venemo_N900: transmission the bittorrent thing? |
| 19:49.59 | Venemo_N900 | Noobmonk3y: yes |
| 19:50.00 | chupy35_ | lol, |
| 19:50.07 | MohammadAG | wouldn't use transmission on the N900 |
| 19:50.25 | Venemo_N900 | well I have no access to a desktop computer right now |
| 19:50.39 | MohammadAG | rephrases |
| 19:50.42 | MohammadAG | wouldn't use transmission on * |
| 19:50.42 | Venemo_N900 | so it is my only optoon atm |
| 19:50.45 | MohammadAG | I hate torrents :P |
| 19:50.51 | Noobmonk3y | well Venemo_N900 the FAQ says... port forwarding or something is screwing it up! |
| 19:50.53 | chupy35_ | rtorrent |
| 19:50.55 | Turski | i would use rtorrent on * |
| 19:50.57 | MohammadAG | warez ftw :p |
| 19:51.06 | chupy35_ | yup |
| 19:51.08 | Venemo_N900 | me too, but my gf wants to show me a series :) |
| 19:51.37 | MohammadAG | well |
| 19:51.41 | MohammadAG | DMZ ftw then |
| 19:51.43 | MohammadAG | open all ports |
| 19:51.54 | Venemo_N900 | MohammadAG: how do I do that? |
| 19:52.05 | MohammadAG | router |
| 19:52.10 | Noobmonk3y | chupy35_: did it work? |
| 19:52.11 | MohammadAG | router settings |
| 19:52.21 | Venemo_N900 | MohammadAG: well I dunno of any bad settings |
| 19:52.26 | MohammadAG | then go to the DMZ section, and put your N900's IP there |
| 19:52.28 | MohammadAG | then save |
| 19:52.34 | MohammadAG | should open up all ports on that IP |
| 19:52.42 | MohammadAG | that's how I torrent when I desperately need it |
| 19:52.44 | Venemo_N900 | it even says port 80 is closed, but http is definitely working on the device |
| 19:52.47 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 19:53.01 | MohammadAG | maybe transmission's buggy on 1.3? |
| 19:53.12 | Venemo_N900 | hm, I dunno |
| 19:53.14 | MohammadAG | [19:51:15] <nuovodna> hi, where can i find a PR 1.3 compatible package of transmission torrent client? |
| 19:53.28 | MohammadAG | it's 21:53 here if you're wondering |
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| 19:53.41 | Venemo_N900 | oh, so it is not working |
| 19:53.45 | Venemo_N900 | :( |
| 19:54.02 | MohammadAG | and qwerty left |
| 19:54.14 | Venemo_N900 | eh |
| 19:54.24 | MohammadAG | he's the maintainer afaik |
| 19:54.35 | Noobmonk3y | lol! |
| 19:54.35 | Venemo_N900 | well he didn't do it alone |
| 19:55.09 | chupy35_ | i ll be back |
| 19:55.15 | Noobmonk3y | ok arnie |
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| 19:56.45 | Venemo_N900 | chupy35_: see ~flashing |
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| 19:57.34 | Noobmonk3y | MohammadAG: did you complete your homework earlier? and get Qprocess working? ;) |
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| 19:58.46 | MohammadAG | no :P |
| 19:59.19 | Noobmonk3y | fail |
| 19:59.21 | Noobmonk3y | fail fail fail |
| 19:59.23 | Noobmonk3y | ~fail |
| 19:59.23 | infobot | FAIL. |
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| 20:03.37 | chupy35 | transfering... |
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| 20:05.36 | chupy35 | rebooting... |
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| 20:08.14 | chupy35 | Noobmonk3y, dont work :( |
| 20:08.50 | Noobmonk3y | lol! |
| 20:09.00 | Noobmonk3y | not for lack of trying :P |
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| 20:09.25 | chupy35 | i also use the free rootfs scripts, maybe that :S |
| 20:12.07 | chupy35 | mmmm... can i back it up all?, my apps and files and all of that? |
| 20:12.26 | chupy35 | including nitdroid and webos apps |
| 20:13.02 | Noobmonk3y | yup |
| 20:13.08 | Noobmonk3y | well the backup does most |
| 20:13.14 | Noobmonk3y | backup any special files just incase |
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| 20:19.41 | lbt | has 1.3 brought back the network connection error problems ? |
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| 20:22.02 | GAN900 | Did they ever go away? |
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| 20:25.47 | Shapeshifter | does anyone else have pronlims with the 'update automatically' time on the n900? mine is constantly 4 minutes into the future |
| 20:26.00 | Shapeshifter | I gave up and set it manually |
| 20:26.03 | jacekowski | anybody here using preenv? |
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| 20:26.23 | Shapeshifter | jacekowski: me |
| 20:26.31 | jacekowski | where do you get apps? |
| 20:26.38 | jacekowski | to run on it? |
| 20:26.42 | jacekowski | like games and stuff |
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| 20:27.44 | Shapeshifter | jacekowski: uhm... zee rapishare? ... :! |
| 20:28.15 | jacekowski | you are recommending piracy? |
| 20:28.23 | Shapeshifter | jacekowski: you're supposed to have a pre and have the ipks |
| 20:28.40 | jacekowski | if i would have pre i wouldn't have n900 |
| 20:28.47 | Shapeshifter | jacekowski: I'm answering your question |
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| 20:31.27 | Shapeshifter | you cannot buy the games unless you have a pre afaik although I might be wrong. be aware however that most games only make sense if you have multitouch |
| 20:31.37 | Shapeshifter | which you have not |
| 20:33.55 | Shapeshifter | although a few people, including me, are looking into faking multigtoch |
| 20:34.34 | chupy35 | i download them lol |
| 20:34.54 | chupy35 | i have seen something of multitouch resistive screens |
| 20:35.06 | jacekowski | you can do multitouch on resistive |
| 20:35.10 | jacekowski | just n900 doesn't do it |
| 20:35.21 | jacekowski | i mean n900 resistive screen is not designed for multitouch |
| 20:36.54 | chupy35 | there are some unlicensed windows mobile 6 drivers that makes resistive multitouch |
| 20:37.48 | jacekowski | only if screen have support for it |
| 20:37.53 | jacekowski | but n900 can't do it |
| 20:38.45 | Shapeshifter | jacekowski: the idea is to hack sdl and make the keyboard vreate fake finge touch events |
| 20:38.56 | Shapeshifter | create |
| 20:39.00 | Shapeshifter | finger |
| 20:39.07 | Shapeshifter | damn alcohol :! |
| 20:39.29 | Shapeshifter | damn satirday and damn mobile internet :) |
| 20:39.39 | Shapeshifter | saturday even... |
| 20:40.53 | Shapeshifter | you could map all the keys on the keyboard to relate to areas of the screen or at least make so of the keys cause a touch event |
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| 20:44.27 | lbt | GAN900: heh ... mine did |
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| 20:47.05 | pupnik | http://www.expansys.de/nokia-e7-eu-schwarz-qwerty-204143/ Nokia E7, 640x360, 683 euro |
| 20:48.06 | pupnik | course they want 1,000 for an iphone 4 |
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| 20:49.52 | nox- | Symbian 3 hmm |
| 20:50.01 | MohammadAG | X-Fade, ping |
| 20:53.30 | chupy35 | can i reinstall local files? and how |
| 20:54.58 | MohammadAG | good question |
| 20:55.06 | phryk | files? |
| 20:55.09 | MohammadAG | sec |
| 20:55.16 | phryk | Do you mean packages? |
| 20:55.17 | chupy35 | mmm.. i dont want to reflash |
| 20:55.19 | chupy35 | yep |
| 20:55.24 | chupy35 | look my phone |
| 20:55.41 | phryk | If you have root access you can reinstall a package with apt-get or aptitude (if installed) |
| 20:56.13 | lbt | so... does anyone know a simple howto to create a desktop icon on the n900 to run a shell script ? |
| 20:56.39 | chupy35 | http://a.yfrog.com/img526/2812/x5o.png |
| 20:56.47 | chupy35 | everything is like that |
| 20:56.54 | MohammadAG | chupy35, got ssh? |
| 20:56.59 | chupy35 | yes |
| 20:57.03 | Funnyface | I never really missed multitouch on my N900 |
| 20:57.03 | MohammadAG | then ssh |
| 20:57.17 | MohammadAG | I'll give you some command you could try |
| 20:57.24 | chupy35 | MohammedAG then?, ok |
| 20:57.51 | Funnyface | of course I wouldn't mind if it supported it, but it's not a major drawback. I just use one finger on the display anyway |
| 20:58.15 | ShadowJK | pupnik, 31.7% cheaper than iphone!omg |
| 20:58.28 | chupy35 | MohammadAG in ssh what can i do? |
| 20:58.46 | MohammadAG | chupy35, cd /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 20:59.51 | chupy35 | ahora |
| 20:59.51 | pupnik | what does e7 do better than motorola milestone 2? http://android-tech.com/motorola-milestone-2-makes-android-is-the-first-time-coming-in-q4/ |
| 20:59.58 | chupy35 | , ok, now |
| 21:00.18 | chupy35 | MohammadAG i am on dpkg |
| 21:00.28 | MohammadAG | sec, this isn't the easiest thing :P |
| 21:00.35 | pupnik | e7 styling is beter |
| 21:00.37 | chupy35 | ok, sorry :P |
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| 21:01.37 | MohammadAG | chupy35, yay, got the command |
| 21:01.38 | MohammadAG | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1028 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded. |
| 21:02.12 | chupy35 | :D MohammadAG , yes? |
| 21:02.25 | MohammadAG | chupy35, apt-get --reinstall install `find -name "*l10n*.list"| sed 's/.\///g' | sed 's/.list//g' | xargs` |
| 21:02.40 | MohammadAG | copy it as it is here, since ' !=` |
| 21:02.40 | MohammadAG | etc |
| 21:03.21 | chupy35 | ok, like this? |
| 21:03.29 | MohammadAG | as it is above |
| 21:03.33 | chupy35 | apt-get --reinstall install `find -name "*l10n*.list"| sed 's/.\///g' | sed 's/.list//g' | xargs` |
| 21:03.37 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 21:03.48 | MohammadAG | you have to be in /var/lib/dpkg/info of course |
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| 21:07.43 | chupy35 | MohammadAG ssh problem :S wait :P |
| 21:08.07 | MohammadAG | stuck without showing anything after the 0 upgraded... line? |
| 21:08.19 | MohammadAG | most likely your device being slow, not an ssh problem, got the same :) |
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| 21:11.00 | chupy35 | 1028 reinstalled |
| 21:11.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | *bburrp* |
| 21:11.01 | chupy35 | :O |
| 21:11.15 | chupy35 | MohammadAG 1028 Reinstalled |
| 21:11.16 | chupy35 | XD |
| 21:11.54 | Noobmonk3y | farts |
| 21:13.56 | b-man` | passes out |
| 21:14.01 | MohammadAG | chupy35, :) |
| 21:16.39 | Noobmonk3y | giggles |
| 21:16.41 | Noobmonk3y | right |
| 21:16.54 | Noobmonk3y | bed.... well... projector on the ceiling |
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| 21:18.16 | chupy35 | thinks after that i will have rootfs full |
| 21:18.26 | chupy35 | Processing was halted because there were too many errors. |
| 21:18.26 | chupy35 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:18.33 | chupy35 | Noobmonk3y |
| 21:18.37 | chupy35 | should i reboot |
| 21:18.40 | Noobmonk3y | yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyes |
| 21:18.42 | Noobmonk3y | oh |
| 21:18.43 | Noobmonk3y | hold on |
| 21:18.46 | chupy35 | ok |
| 21:18.48 | Noobmonk3y | was just answering yes to my name |
| 21:18.54 | chupy35 | ok XD |
| 21:18.59 | b-man` | lol |
| 21:19.37 | Noobmonk3y | when did these errors occur? flashing? |
| 21:20.17 | chupy35 | no Noobmok3y, after removing /usr/lib/locale files, i restore them but that didnt work |
| 21:20.18 | Noobmonk3y | b-man`: tough being me, lol |
| 21:20.32 | Noobmonk3y | so when exactley did the error occur? |
| 21:20.33 | Noobmonk3y | reboot? |
| 21:20.39 | lbt | is extras repo offline |
| 21:20.41 | chupy35 | no, after a time |
| 21:20.51 | chupy35 | of deleting that files |
| 21:20.54 | chupy35 | do i reboot now? |
| 21:21.20 | lbt | X-Fade: ping .... repository.maemo.org seems dead |
| 21:21.22 | Noobmonk3y | well, it wont make a difference, but i still dontknow what you did to make that error appear, something musta happenned just b4 |
| 21:21.34 | Noobmonk3y | lbt: it's on holiday in dublin ;) |
| 21:21.45 | chupy35 | ok, i am going to reboot phone so lets, see... |
| 21:21.47 | lbt | an error occured! |
| 21:21.50 | lbt | Reference #97.4521214e.1288473689.abe3d28 |
| 21:21.53 | lbt | no kidding! |
| 21:21.56 | Noobmonk3y | cool :) |
| 21:22.03 | lbt | that's a shitload of errors before mine |
| 21:22.06 | lbt | :) |
| 21:22.37 | lbt | decides to not upgrade wife's n900 right now... |
| 21:23.42 | chupy35 | Noobmonk3y, dont work :( |
| 21:23.47 | chupy35 | sorry |
| 21:23.52 | Noobmonk3y | lol but ya back |
| 21:23.56 | chupy35 | MohammadAg dont work |
| 21:23.58 | Noobmonk3y | ok, so reflashed.... |
| 21:24.03 | Noobmonk3y | rebooted still failed |
| 21:24.17 | Noobmonk3y | the best and last thing you can do is flash the emmc + reflash ....... |
| 21:24.25 | Noobmonk3y | that should set it back to factory settings |
| 21:25.41 | MohammadAG | chupy35, why? |
| 21:26.12 | chupy35 | dont know, is still the same way it was |
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| 21:27.11 | MohammadAG | did you reboot? |
| 21:29.21 | chupy35 | yes |
| 21:29.21 | chupy35 | i also use some rootfs scripts |
| 21:29.21 | chupy35 | yes, it should be another way |
| 21:29.46 | chupy35 | i even can see the hour :( |
| 21:32.15 | chupy35 | fuck i forget my usb cable in other house, this suck so much |
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| 21:36.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | rsyncs a usb cable to chupy35 |
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| 21:41.09 | chupy35 | MohammadAG do u dont have any other idea? :P |
| 21:42.29 | MohammadAG | nope, otherwise I would've said it lol |
| 21:44.29 | DocScrutinizer | ~trout MohammadAG |
| 21:44.29 | infobot | ACTION slaps MohammadAG around a bit with a large trout! |
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| 21:49.08 | andyph666 | is there an easy way to test if injection works |
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| 21:55.41 | MohammadAG | aireplay -9 wlan0 |
| 21:59.27 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.32 | pupnik | those numbers are amazing |
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| 22:04.57 | pigeon | does anyone the maximum number of vertices the n900 pvr gl can do for glDrawArrays? |
| 22:05.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | have you tried mbarcode? seems to work well for short 1D barcodes, failed for me for a longer code (or unknown encoding of course, how could I see) and the 2D like codes... |
| 22:05.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | also tried it on the US drivers license and it read one out of three |
| 22:06.25 | SpeedEvil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhZf8Oqlv9Q&ob=av2n |
| 22:06.27 | SpeedEvil | (almost) |
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| 22:11.04 | floyd84 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:11.54 | SpeedEvil | "sub maximal" Vo2 masturbation calories "heart rate" |
| 22:11.55 | DocAvalanche | http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/tech/doktors.htm |
| 22:12.02 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 22:12.07 | SpeedEvil | wrong window. |
| 22:13.14 | kerio | haha what |
| 22:13.56 | SpeedEvil | I was looking on papers for correlating emotional state with heart rate and calorie output. |
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| 22:14.26 | maybeWTF | anybody tried playing sims3 using preenv? |
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| 22:17.40 | SpeedEvil | Anything requiring multitouch won't work. |
| 22:17.47 | SpeedEvil | Can you use it with one finger? |
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| 22:19.31 | maybeWTF | works fine except for the minigames requiring moving the device itself |
| 22:20.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | how can it if there is none? |
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| 22:21.11 | GAN900 | Anybody else completely tired of Android? |
| 22:21.21 | GAN900 | We need some MeeGo devices. |
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| 22:26.34 | MohammadAG | GAN900, I can only agree |
| 22:28.48 | SpeedEvil | I can either agree, or disagree, but on balance I agree. |
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| 22:55.21 | rlinfati | ~pr1.3 |
| 22:55.21 | infobot | pr1.3 is probably the latest (and probably last) software update for Fremantle, available since Monday October 25 2010. More information at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.3 -- see ~flashing for how to update |
| 22:58.17 | SpeedEvil | pr1.3 was The last best hope for maemo. It failed. In the year of the android wars, it became something greater - our last best hope for victory. |
| 22:59.22 | nox- | and it keeps the cpu clocked high as soon as on charger... |
| 23:00.43 | ShadowJK | Someone should file a bug report about the cpu peg on charger thing... |
| 23:00.50 | ShadowJK | it's a serious bug imo |
| 23:00.56 | DocAvalanche | yo |
| 23:01.51 | nox- | ShadowJK, DocScrutinizer51 found that out yesterday(?) using powertop |
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| 23:02.45 | DocAvalanche | yeah, it's MY bug |
| 23:04.01 | nox- | oh i didnt know you were the same guy :) |
| 23:04.24 | DocAvalanche | I'm known by *many* names >:-) |
| 23:04.30 | nox- | heh |
| 23:05.48 | DocAvalanche | reminiscence to Sisters Of Mercy |
| 23:06.46 | MohammadAG51 | ShadowJK, it won't get fixed, so why bother? |
| 23:07.08 | nox- | so its a kernel bug? |
| 23:07.13 | DocAvalanche | heard there's a weird thing called community SSU |
| 23:07.26 | DocAvalanche | nox-: positively |
| 23:07.43 | MohammadAG51 | DocAvalanche, yeah, I heard of it too, but Nokia bug fixes aren't made OSS till the next PR |
| 23:08.30 | nox- | so its a part of this diff? https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=h-e-n;a=commitdiff;h=a2abd51199b9e61542a24ae9086ac1c6263106c4#patch9 |
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| 23:08.46 | DocAvalanche | who cares about Nokia OSS? We all know about inertia and mindset inside Nokia |
| 23:09.14 | ShadowJK | MohammadAG, I think if there are enough critical bugs they would get fixed |
| 23:09.54 | SpeedEvil | http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/power/chargers/nokia-extra-power-dc-11 |
| 23:10.06 | SpeedEvil | this is supposed to charge microUSB phones. |
| 23:10.12 | DocAvalanche | we all bet on + * Fixes: NB#161191 - Rover does not differentiate charging downstream port + from dedicated charger |
| 23:10.14 | SpeedEvil | And would be very severely affected by the bug |
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| 23:12.02 | ShadowJK | dc-11 looks just like wallcharger electrically |
| 23:12.04 | nox- | are the kernel sources all public so a suspected commit could be reverted and rebuilt? |
| 23:12.09 | ShadowJK | well, different max currents.. |
| 23:12.26 | ShadowJK | nox-, sure |
| 23:12.37 | SpeedEvil | Bisect that git! |
| 23:12.45 | dreamer | where are the logs for fapman? |
| 23:12.53 | MohammadAG51 | bets on musb_core.c |
| 23:13.11 | DocAvalanche | hoooray!!! the above link opened friggin 4..8 windows, then nuked those plus 15 windows previously open of my Konqueror to nirvana |
| 23:13.13 | DocAvalanche | :-/ |
| 23:13.32 | nox- | wtf |
| 23:13.42 | SpeedEvil | OOMkill? |
| 23:13.48 | MohammadAG51 | or lis302dl.c |
| 23:13.49 | nox- | .oO(good i use noscript...) |
| 23:13.50 | DocAvalanche | nah |
| 23:14.15 | DocAvalanche | swap usage: 37% (of iirc 6GB) |
| 23:15.17 | DocAvalanche | fsckng KDE4 plus JS plague |
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| 23:15.39 | dreamer | crap, seems my apt is completely screwed over by what autoremover did |
| 23:16.10 | pupnik | what do you think of the soft E7 newstyle keys vs the clicky N900 keys? |
| 23:16.28 | DocAvalanche | MohammadAG51: lis302.c won't do anything bad like that. It simply can't |
| 23:16.43 | pupnik | i really prefer a tactile press-through point on a keybd |
| 23:16.57 | MohammadAG51 | i'm just looking at stuff that has to do with voltage |
| 23:17.03 | MohammadAG51 | musb_core.c it is |
| 23:17.23 | ShadowJK | Well, E7 is unobtainable at the moment. Ask again in 6 months when it's actually on display in stores so I can go try it out. |
| 23:18.01 | MohammadAG51 | 6 months o_O |
| 23:18.07 | MohammadAG51 | at the shitty res? |
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| 23:19.26 | ShadowJK | However, among E70, E75, N810 and N900... I like N900 tactile feel. N810 layout is superior. E70 has best typing speed. E75 is kinda OK if my nails are trimmed to the exact length, but the OS is so shitty it drops keypresses anyway. |
| 23:20.12 | ShadowJK | So I guess perfection would be N810 layout with N900 keys in E70 formfactor. |
| 23:20.35 | ShadowJK | well, E70-ish formfactor :-) |
| 23:20.40 | ShadowJK | double-slider |
| 23:21.01 | ShadowJK | or quad-folder |
| 23:21.48 | pupnik | ShadowJK: i'm with you on those n900 clickies |
| 23:22.17 | pupnik | i was thinking of N97 mini style soft-keys - dunno why i said E7 - they just look the same |
| 23:22.39 | ShadowJK | I typed on N97 or N97 mini for 3 seconds |
| 23:22.41 | ShadowJK | didn't like it |
| 23:23.15 | SpeedEvil | I wish there was a nice cheap, low-power way to do tactile LCD keyboards. |
| 23:24.34 | ShadowJK | It's not just about getting a response when you press the key |
| 23:24.43 | ShadowJK | it's also feeling where the key is before pressing it |
| 23:24.43 | SpeedEvil | I know. |
| 23:24.54 | SpeedEvil | That's part of what I meant by tactile |
| 23:24.56 | ShadowJK | the second part I haven't even heard of existing in any touchscreens |
| 23:25.01 | SpeedEvil | though it's not what is usually thought of |
| 23:26.18 | DocAvalanche | some film with wire matrix, that has e.g water to build up gas on matrix points when DC applied, and gas recombinating to water when AC applied? |
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| 23:26.47 | DocAvalanche | (C)+(Pat.pend.) J.Reisenweber |
| 23:27.14 | SpeedEvil | trhere is a similar one to that. |
| 23:27.27 | DocAvalanche | MEH |
| 23:27.28 | SpeedEvil | Though using vapour bubbles from heating |
| 23:28.09 | DocAvalanche | :'( |
| 23:28.16 | DocAvalanche | why I'm always too late? |
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| 23:32.16 | pupnik | wow i missed out on the DOS game 'liero' looks like a more exciting 'scorched earth' |
| 23:33.53 | ShadowJK | liero and scorched earth were my favourites when I grew up :-) |
| 23:33.56 | ShadowJK | liero is more personal :) |
| 23:37.28 | dreamer | hmm, how can I resolve this issue? http://pastebin.com/F2v6beVd seems apt and the app-managers are completely stuck now :/ |
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| 23:39.08 | ohwhyme | anyone here get neopwn to work? |
| 23:41.07 | korhojoa | pupnik, there's also wings, death rally and a prettier liero clone called molez |
| 23:41.30 | korhojoa | finnish indie games <3 |
| 23:43.46 | pupnik | ty korhojoa - this looks very well done |
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| 23:47.51 | DocAvalanche | ShadowJK: (Someone should file a bug) are you? |
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