IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20131002

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02:36.21*** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-06-14): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6
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06:19.14psycho_oreosPali, please read my memo and chanlog in regards to what you asked earlier on. :)
06:21.21Paliok, later...
06:21.27psycho_oreosnods.
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07:00.17freemangordon_Pali: SSI works in 3.6, doesn't work in 3.7 :)
07:05.44Palifreemangordon: ok
07:06.07Paliare you trying to find commit which breaking it?
07:06.24freemangordon_I am starting to bisect now
07:09.15freemangordon_"Bisecting: 6504 revisions left to test after this" :D
07:12.44Pali~log2(6504)
07:12.56Pali~log(6504)
07:13.46Paliah, infobot is dead?
07:14.50Pali2^12 < 6504 < 2^13
07:15.09Paliso about 13 revs?
07:16.49freemangordon_yep
07:24.27jonwil~seen fatphil
07:24.28infobotfatphil is currently on #maemo-ssu, last said: 'i did wrrite s more sensible diffconfig that would limit itself to options that are kniown about by both endpoints. which was handier.'.
07:24.50jonwilwhats up with infobot, why no "idle for xxx"
07:34.05Paliinfobot is dead... did not able to give me result of logarithm function...
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13:50.29DocScrutinizer05~ping
13:50.30infobot~pong
13:50.34DocScrutinizer05~log2(6504)
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14:30.26kerioDocScrutinizer05: 13
14:31.01DocScrutinizer05meh, it's just I'm rather sure the syntax for infobot isn't correct
14:33.43DocScrutinizer05~+help math
14:33.51keriojesus fuck the spam
14:34.34kerio~3+4
14:34.34infobot7
14:34.42kerio~0+log2(5)
14:34.55DocScrutinizer05~sin(90)
14:35.01keriothere's no notation for knuth's up-arrow :(
14:35.40DocScrutinizer05~11!
14:35.41infobotwell, 11! is 39,916,800
14:35.47kerionot even close
14:39.33DocScrutinizer05freemangordon_: http://privatepaste.com/8653ef83c5
14:39.42DocScrutinizer05(about DT)
14:40.37kerioDocScrutinizer05: add ackermann's function to infobot!
14:41.04DocScrutinizer05I can't
14:41.33DocScrutinizer05I have no access to the bot's "binary"
14:41.57keriowell, you only need like four values
14:42.25DocScrutinizer05I'm only "+o" and even have an access to restart the process on the server where it runs
14:42.27kerioA(4) is 2**2**2**65536-3
14:43.18DocScrutinizer05~2**2**2**65536-3
14:43.19infobotinf
14:43.35kerioperl sucks!
14:43.42keriothat's an integer!
14:44.10DocScrutinizer05orly? int16?
14:44.15DocScrutinizer05or int32?
14:44.45kerio*integer*
14:44.57kerioa bignum, if you prefer
14:45.13DocScrutinizer05so what? inf is bignum
14:45.23kerioinf is a float
14:45.27kerio~2**2
14:45.27infobot4
14:45.29keriomh
14:45.43RST38hfloating floating floating
14:45.44kerioi wonder if it's just a float internally
14:45.52RST38hinf is
14:45.54DocScrutinizer05~1/3
14:45.54infobot0.333333333333
14:46.31DocScrutinizer05~0+pi
14:46.31infobot3.14159265
14:46.37kerioDocScrutinizer05: that's not conclusive - python3 gives a float when doing integer divisions
14:46.45keriounless you use the truncating one
14:47.00keriobut every other operation between ints returns an int
14:47.43DocScrutinizer05meh, seems like a niche topic
14:48.26kerio(and, obviously, ints have no upper limit)
14:49.01DocScrutinizer05orly?
14:49.18DocScrutinizer05~attack kerio
14:49.18infobotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing kerio
14:49.36kerio~botsmack
14:49.36infobotOWW!
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15:43.22freemangordon_DocScrutinizer05: mru is helpful as always been :)
15:43.38DocScrutinizer05mru?
15:43.54freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: remember my discussion on thumb2?
15:44.01DocScrutinizer05aaah
15:44.05freemangordon;)
15:44.06DocScrutinizer05k
15:45.18DocScrutinizer05I guess that's simply another (incompatible) concept of professionalism
15:46.09freemangordonno matter what it is, such a behaviour just sucks IMO
15:46.11DocScrutinizer05you know, there are guys in school who learn what interests them, and guys who study what is listed as being relevant for the test
15:46.38freemangordonyeah
15:46.46keriowho's mru?
15:47.05freemangordonkerio: an "ARM guru" I've been told
15:47.15keriothe one who said that thumb2 was impossible?
15:47.20freemangordon:nod:
15:47.31keriohe must be feeling kinda dumb for that
15:47.43freemangordonI doubt he gives a shit
15:47.53freemangordonabout that
15:47.59DocScrutinizer05"guru" as in "knows each ARM doc and manual by heart" - which in itself doesn't mean much yet
15:48.02freemangordoneven if we consider he knows
15:48.51DocScrutinizer05actually I think he never said "impossible" - he always said "not working and not worth it"
15:49.17DocScrutinizer05well, our mileage may vary ;-)
15:49.37freemangordonCBA to look if I keep irc logs, but iirc the term was "impossible and doesn;t worth it"
15:49.54DocScrutinizer05*shrug*
15:50.02DocScrutinizer05we know whom to ask what
15:50.09freemangordonnevermind :)
15:50.11DocScrutinizer05IOW we know *him*
15:50.51DocScrutinizer05a source of information is always as good as your knowledge about the source's quality and properies
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15:51.49freemangordonanyway, I am only about 3000 revs to find which commit breaks SSI :D
15:52.02DocScrutinizer05:-D
15:52.30keriogit bisect?
15:52.34DocScrutinizer05yoh
15:52.37freemangordonyeah :(
15:53.06freemangordonit is a nightmare to do it on the kernel tree with patches on top
15:53.20DocScrutinizer05I bet it is
15:53.32freemangordonbut I hope I'll have a result by the end of the day
15:53.46DocScrutinizer05anyway funny enough that HSI been one of my majort problem issues in ST-E
15:53.52DocScrutinizer05-t
15:54.20DocScrutinizer05but our problems been with OMAP4 and lost IRQs
15:54.41freemangordonthe same problem here ;)
15:54.48DocScrutinizer05and HSI protocol specs don't really like to lose IRQs
15:55.02freemangordonI see no IRQs from SSI
15:55.18DocScrutinizer05well, we only *sometimes* lost one
15:55.34DocScrutinizer05culprit been a SiErr in IRQ handler
15:55.35freemangordonoh, I am in a better position, obviously :)
15:55.40DocScrutinizer05IP
15:56.39DocScrutinizer05sometimes the OMAP4 lost a "wake" IRQ when APR been busy in e.g. GFX core, or completely asleep
15:56.48DocScrutinizer05SiErr :-/
15:57.03freemangordonanyworkaround? disable sleep?
15:57.06DocScrutinizer05APE*
15:57.27DocScrutinizer05well, disable sleep works but defeats all puposes of embedded
15:57.56DocScrutinizer05we had to break the HSI prot specs and repeat our message from modem to APE
15:58.09freemangordonoh
15:58.24DocScrutinizer05indeed
15:58.54DocScrutinizer05and everybody always blamed the modem :-S
15:59.32DocScrutinizer05"no, look here, this are our logs and here we try to talk to blaze AP but it doesn't answer"
15:59.48DocScrutinizer05>:-(
16:00.03DocScrutinizer05TI: "WONTFIX in OMAP4"
16:05.09freemangordon"Bisecting: 2054 revisions left to test after this"
16:05.25DocScrutinizer05and you can replace "blaze" by ~5 other major companies' devices
16:05.36DocScrutinizer05real fun
16:06.13freemangordonwell, this is about 12 more tries
16:06.22DocScrutinizer05particularly since aour customers don't talk to each other, and your help desk neither tlaks to another segment of same helpdesk
16:06.23freemangordon11
16:06.35DocScrutinizer05your*
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16:07.20DocScrutinizer05so you have 5 customers that blame your modem to not behave and all 5 have same TI chip which is actually the culprit
16:09.27DocScrutinizer05really I adore omap4
16:23.51DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: >> [Whois] mru is ~troll@desiato.mansr.com (Mans)  << ;-P
16:24.05freemangordon:D
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18:54.10freemangordonPali: 118 revisions left :)
18:57.00Palifreemangordon: nice :-)
18:57.03Paligood work
18:57.25freemangordonwell, lets find the offending commit first :)
18:57.27Paliso about 8 tests?
18:57.33freemangordonyep
18:57.51freemangordonbut everyone takes ages, as I have to manually edit a couple of files
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