| 00:11.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: http://www.google.de/search?q=komm+verhaftungen - pretty easy to become a "criminal" back when. I even entered the building when it was already surrounded by police, by explaining the police idiot "you're here to stop people from escaping, but I want *in* not *out*". Of course later on nobody admitted such an action would've been possible |
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| 07:44.10 | freemangordon | OMG, it is the first time I see my swap usage dropping after 2 days of uptime :D. Usually it was ~110MB after 2-3 days of uptime. Now it is 84MB, yesterday was 93MB. |
| 07:45.28 | freemangordon | Applications' startup times are like on a freshly booted device |
| 07:45.41 | freemangordon | damn memory leaks :( |
| 07:50.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | we'll declare it a worldwide holiday |
| 07:51.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | StFreemanG |
| 07:51.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 07:51.49 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 07:52.38 | freemangordon | actually no need, several bottles of Jack will do the job better :P |
| 07:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: actually kudos, your contributions to maemo are truly groundbreaking |
| 07:54.04 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: is that you? What's with you man, are you ok. I am constrained. :P:P:P |
| 07:55.28 | freemangordon | fears that someone has stollen doc's nick :D:D:D |
| 07:55.58 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ignore me, I am in a trolly mood this morning |
| 07:56.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hahaha |
| 07:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's quite remarkable that I never seen this swap-hogging and device coming to a grinding halt after 5-or-so days - and I never ever use that unlock slider screen |
| 07:57.17 | freemangordon | but yeah, it starts to get clear that all this "swap fragmentation" is caused by leaking memory |
| 07:58.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | which also might explain how that one could slip Nokia QA |
| 07:58.39 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: i've never seen it to "halt" in a couple of days or even weeks, but my swap is on uSD |
| 07:58.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably there also nobody ever uses unlock screen |
| 07:58.59 | freemangordon | might be |
| 07:59.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | nice job |
| 07:59.34 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 07:59.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | good finding |
| 08:00.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, of course this needs to go into CSSU, asap |
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| 08:00.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I even want to push it to Stable, pretty fast |
| 08:00.43 | freemangordon | yeah. though maybe we should tweak the script reinob posted on TMO to be compatible with fremantle busybox and check for other leakages |
| 08:01.08 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: for sure. though I need to fix tklock's visual glitches first |
| 08:01.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, noticed that |
| 08:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be gpu barfup |
| 08:02.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | did he OC? |
| 08:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | (whoever reported that) |
| 08:02.22 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: does not matter, I can reproduce it too |
| 08:02.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, k |
| 08:03.04 | freemangordon | I was testing with forced rotation on, the moment i disable it, i got black screen in tklock too. when coming from phone app |
| 08:03.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | nasty |
| 08:03.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | good luck debugging that |
| 08:03.45 | freemangordon | yeah. but I know where to look, so it should be easy to fix it |
| 08:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | sweet |
| 08:05.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels embarrassed to not even have updated to T6 |
| 08:06.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I'm starting to feel bored by the conflicts of MP with procps and camera-ui |
| 08:07.05 | tadzik | DocScrutinizer05: what's "OC", in "did he OC?" |
| 08:07.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should think of a update script |
| 08:07.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~omap-oc |
| 08:07.24 | infobot | somebody said omap-oc was http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 |
| 08:07.27 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: BTW do we have bug report against camera-ui segfaultng? |
| 08:07.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | not sure |
| 08:07.56 | tadzik | ah, no, I don't overclock |
| 08:08.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think it's GPU blowing chunks, which is declared unrelated to camera-ui but only happens on nicocam for me nevertheless |
| 08:08.41 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: what? |
| 08:08.47 | freemangordon | what happens? |
| 08:09.00 | freemangordon | the segfault? |
| 08:09.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | my problems with nicocam are from black screen and camera-ui freezing due to "DSP" fsckup |
| 08:09.51 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: there was a problem in h-d causing that, this is fixed since august or something |
| 08:10.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
| 08:10.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *might* give nicocam a second chance then |
| 08:10.31 | freemangordon | it was causing an aditional rotation while overlay was on. or something like that |
| 08:10.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | still leaves me with MP vs procps conflict |
| 08:10.43 | freemangordon | WTF is procps? |
| 08:10.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | proper ps |
| 08:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | conflicts with messybox |
| 08:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | in MP |
| 08:11.25 | freemangordon | hmm, can't you just install -mp, and then change ps symlink? |
| 08:11.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I could do some such botch, yeah |
| 08:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | mv /bin/ps ~ps |
| 08:13.00 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: actually h-d problem was causing camera-ui (i.e. DSP) to reboot the device. DOn;t know if your problem is the same, but i'll appreciate if you test it |
| 08:13.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | install MP |
| 08:13.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | mv ~ps /bin/ps |
| 08:13.15 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 08:13.29 | freemangordon | or just edit the symlink to point to ~ps |
| 08:14.29 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: the way to reproduce it (camera-ui) is to hold the device in portrait and to open camera cover |
| 08:14.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have rotation locked, so this shouldn't apply to me |
| 08:15.06 | freemangordon | it was causing WD to kick here in ~3 of 10 attempts. |
| 08:15.27 | freemangordon | nervertheless, try it |
| 08:17.01 | freemangordon | *nevertheless |
| 08:18.13 | chem|st | merlin1991: yes, that was the idea "we" had when I pushed stable the first time |
| 08:18.37 | chem|st | if freddiii asks again... next week or this weekend |
| 08:18.55 | chem|st | and I do like waffles! |
| 08:19.14 | freemangordon | hands chem|st a waffle |
| 08:19.23 | chem|st | noms a waffle |
| 08:20.53 | chem|st | the problem with building twice is that for some reason I cannot build a package or you cannot build one |
| 08:21.00 | freemangordon | chem|st: as we discussed with merlin1991, you can take .debs from -testing, you only need to hand-craft .changes files |
| 08:21.23 | freemangordon | but you'd better confirm ^^^ with merlin1991 |
| 08:21.27 | chem|st | I have no idea of handcrafting them... |
| 08:21.44 | freemangordon | maybe merlin1991 knows how |
| 08:22.06 | chem|st | well I am stuck with modest the second time now |
| 08:22.30 | chem|st | the first time it was the order of installation of some dev packages |
| 08:22.38 | chem|st | crank |
| 08:22.45 | freemangordon | chem|st: and what now? |
| 08:23.29 | chem|st | well I will build everything else, push it and then reset my target again |
| 08:23.39 | chem|st | then build modest |
| 08:23.57 | chem|st | if I have to do that the next time as well you better have another email client |
| 08:24.32 | chem|st | I have build some packages already |
| 08:24.41 | chem|st | builds of some... |
| 08:24.43 | freemangordon | chem|st: well, I have no problem building modest here, both in ARMEL and THUMB targets |
| 08:25.00 | chem|st | freemangordon: you didn't follow right... |
| 08:25.25 | freemangordon | chem|st: possible |
| 08:26.19 | chem|st | the procedure was: I built modest, I installed some python dev for xml, I was told wrong modest version, tried to build again and deleted the debs built before BAMM, then I learned I had the right version |
| 08:27.10 | freemangordon | chem|st: BTW I hope you have pulled the latest sources for modest and tinymail. both have bugs fixed and are in -testing for long enough to assume them stable |
| 08:27.22 | chem|st | don't know if it will do good to just start from scratch with my git copy, if that does not help I try at my sisters SB |
| 08:27.59 | chem|st | freemangordon: sure |
| 08:28.02 | freemangordon | ok |
| 08:28.14 | chem|st | so off to work see you guys at 8 |
| 08:28.21 | freemangordon | bye |
| 08:28.28 | freemangordon | is off to work too |
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| 09:24.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you got a sister who got SB? How old? ;-D |
| 09:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | married? |
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| 09:30.41 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: 33 and probably getting divorced^^ |
| 09:32.19 | chem|st | got her to use linux as primary system 3 years ago, bought a n900 last year after seeing me and my brick |
| 09:37.36 | RST38h | chem|st: So, is Elop to blame? |
| 09:43.09 | chem|st | RST38h: no blame me in this case |
| 09:48.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
| 09:49.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 09:50.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, good that konversation shows topic, and that I've set it |
| 09:50.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | this whole fundraiser stuff and tmo disaster almost made me forget about meeting tonight |
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| 11:29.47 | merlin1991 | I don't get it why tmo has to stay in us |
| 11:31.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, that's BS, tmo has to move out of US if anything |
| 11:31.24 | merlin1991 | 10-4 |
| 11:31.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | US privacy laws are mere BS, compared to EU |
| 12:04.56 | freemangordon | BTW i agree TMO should be in Europe, if not for other reason, then for moderators availability. |
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| 12:35.38 | Pali | freemangordon, I updated systemui packages and after restarting systemui daemon in powerkey menu is missing cellmodem ui options (disable/enable modem) |
| 12:35.53 | Pali | bug or feature? :D |
| 12:36.36 | Pali | is there any debug output for powerkey menu plugin? |
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| 12:41.59 | chem|st | I don't get why *everything needs to be on USA soil?! *law in USA is BS as it is |
| 12:44.16 | chem|st | some people will learn a lesson with that NPO shit |
| 12:45.18 | chem|st | if they start sending around money with paypal... the end is close |
| 13:15.20 | freemangordon | Pali: cellmodem ui options? |
| 13:15.24 | freemangordon | what is that? |
| 13:16.43 | Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/cell-modem-ui/ |
| 13:17.08 | Pali | freemangordon, it adding new button to systemui powerbutton menu for disabling cellular modem |
| 13:17.46 | freemangordon | Pali: /etc/systemui/systemui.xml is overwritten. raise a bug against that package to not mess with /etc/systemui/systemui.xml, but to provide its own xml |
| 13:18.16 | Pali | it has own file: /etc/systemui/cell-modem-ui.xml |
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| 13:18.54 | Pali | but for unknown reason your new plugin does not add new button |
| 13:20.01 | freemangordon | Pali: it is symlink, maybe that's the reason. |
| 13:20.10 | Pali | yes, it is symlink |
| 13:20.18 | freemangordon | lemme check |
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| 13:21.53 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW anything in syslog? |
| 13:22.38 | Pali | syslog | grep systemui --> nothing |
| 13:23.12 | freemangordon | hmm, what about grep systemui /var/log/syslog? |
| 13:25.34 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^? |
| 13:26.05 | Pali | $ alias syslog='less /var/log/syslog' |
| 13:26.20 | Pali | so that is same :-) |
| 13:26.35 | Pali | there are only output like: systemui-tklock[25027]: Method call received from: :1.14, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: powerkeymenu_open |
| 13:26.45 | Pali | or systemui-tklock[25027]: Method call received from: :1.14, iface: com.nokia.system_ui.request, method: tklock_open |
| 13:26.58 | Pali | and systemui[25027]: Loading all plugins |
| 13:27.05 | Pali | but nothing interesting |
| 13:27.18 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, i'll check it |
| 13:27.43 | freemangordon | Pali: or you may check it too |
| 13:27.45 | freemangordon | :P |
| 13:28.18 | Pali | now I'm checking why battery applet not sending too low message... |
| 13:28.25 | freemangordon | source has "standalone mode", you can compile and run outside systemui |
| 13:28.32 | freemangordon | as a simple application |
| 13:29.24 | freemangordon | just uncomment #define POWERKEYMENU_STANDALONE |
| 13:54.40 | freemangordon | Pali: cannot reproduce it here |
| 13:54.55 | Pali | it working? |
| 13:54.58 | freemangordon | Now I have a buttn named "Tablet mode" |
| 13:55.00 | freemangordon | yes |
| 13:55.38 | Pali | how can I correctly restart systemui? |
| 13:55.50 | freemangordon | killall systemui |
| 13:55.58 | freemangordon | dsme should start it for you |
| 13:56.47 | Pali | still missing :-( |
| 13:57.51 | freemangordon | Pali: no need to restart systemui though |
| 14:00.21 | freemangordon | Pali: please, checkout the code, uncomment "standalone" define and use http://pastebin.com/eymwWPGu to compile |
| 14:00.47 | freemangordon | There seems to be some problem, but I cannot reproduce it here |
| 14:01.05 | freemangordon | it could be related to your language or whatever setting |
| 14:01.08 | freemangordon | s |
| 14:05.10 | freemangordon | Pali: still here? |
| 14:05.42 | Pali | sill not working |
| 14:05.46 | Pali | output is here: http://pastebin.com/ZFtydqE2 |
| 14:06.32 | freemangordon | is that all in syslog? |
| 14:06.39 | freemangordon | that's too short |
| 14:06.42 | Pali | yes, nothing more |
| 14:06.48 | freemangordon | wtf? |
| 14:07.07 | freemangordon | do you run it as user user? |
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| 14:07.53 | Pali | yes |
| 14:08.29 | freemangordon | did you export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 14:08.30 | freemangordon | ? |
| 14:08.56 | freemangordon | i guess you run it from ssh session |
| 14:09.24 | Pali | $ echo $DISPLAY >> :0.0 |
| 14:09.27 | Pali | yes |
| 14:10.02 | Pali | it again does not show cellmodem ui button |
| 14:10.35 | freemangordon | Pali: if you have all of the buttons, but "tablet mode", your log is screwed, you should have one "powerkeymenu_add_menu_entry" for each button |
| 14:12.20 | Pali | there is something new in syslog when I started standalone binary again: http://pastebin.com/ffvfXhBN |
| 14:14.25 | freemangordon | ignore that, it is because of the "standalone mode". BTW you should stop with ctrl-c |
| 14:14.43 | Pali | yes, I killing it with ctrl+c |
| 14:14.46 | freemangordon | ok |
| 14:16.45 | freemangordon | Pali: please do tail -f /var/log/syslog and start the binary again |
| 14:17.12 | freemangordon | it is impossible to have only one " powerkeymenu_add_menu_entry" in syslog |
| 14:18.31 | freemangordon | aah, wait |
| 14:18.35 | freemangordon | WTF? |
| 14:19.23 | Pali | look: http://pastebin.com/LN4ncXY2 |
| 14:19.27 | Pali | nothing more |
| 14:19.58 | freemangordon | Dec 13 15:17:27 Pali-Nokia-N900 last message repeated 14 times |
| 14:20.00 | freemangordon | :P |
| 14:20.16 | Pali | aaaah |
| 14:20.25 | Pali | I did not see that |
| 14:20.42 | freemangordon | tell me the result of "cat /var/run/ssc" |
| 14:20.44 | Pali | btw, last git commit 4710f5e7aa85d6f10dee886f92ebf937fd6f5890 |
| 14:21.19 | Pali | sim_ready |
| 14:23.16 | freemangordon | now raise a bug against cell-modem-ui :P |
| 14:23.37 | freemangordon | there is no sim_ready in cell-modom-ui.xml |
| 14:23.56 | freemangordon | there is no sim_ready in cell-modem-ui.xml |
| 14:24.22 | freemangordon | BTW what do you expect to see? |
| 14:24.55 | freemangordon | which entry from cell-modem-ui.xml? |
| 14:24.58 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ |
| 14:27.38 | Pali | what does sim_ready means? |
| 14:27.48 | freemangordon | NFC |
| 14:28.01 | Pali | is modem active? |
| 14:28.11 | freemangordon | how am i supposed to know |
| 14:30.41 | freemangordon | Pali: well it turned out to be a feature :D:D:D :P |
| 14:31.06 | Pali | I found this README: /usr/share/doc/ssc-daemon/README |
| 14:31.12 | Pali | in ssc-daemon deb package |
| 14:40.08 | freemangordon | Pali: would you pastebin that readme? |
| 14:40.30 | Pali | there is nothing usefull, but ok :-) |
| 14:40.57 | freemangordon | i thought there is :D |
| 14:41.12 | Pali | http://pastebin.com/mFrfYH7k |
| 14:42.39 | freemangordon | Pali: what do you usually see, with old powerkeymenu? |
| 14:43.04 | freemangordon | I mean with that unprocessed status |
| 14:43.45 | Pali | there is no unprocessed status: only your gsm/3g modem is up or down |
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| 14:44.09 | Pali | when I do not enter pin code then is down |
| 14:44.59 | freemangordon | Pali: when "cat /var/run/ssc" gives "sim_ready", what do you see with old powerkeymenu? |
| 14:45.37 | Pali | going to downgrade |
| 14:45.41 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 14:58.36 | Pali | freemangordon, hm, cellmodem ui button missing too |
| 14:58.53 | Pali | so then it is bug in cell modem ui |
| 14:58.55 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 14:58.58 | freemangordon | toldya |
| 14:59.19 | Pali | going to upgrade & restart sscd |
| 14:59.35 | freemangordon | Pali: why not reboot the device? |
| 14:59.44 | freemangordon | (after upgrading) |
| 14:59.48 | Pali | because testing battery applet |
| 14:59.54 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 15:00.53 | freemangordon | Pali: remember, there is no need to restart systemui anymore if .xml for poerkeymenu is changed |
| 15:00.59 | freemangordon | it is parsed every time |
| 15:01.08 | freemangordon | before the menu is shown |
| 15:01.32 | Pali | now I restarted both systemui & sscd and after entering pin tablet button is there :-) |
| 15:01.53 | Pali | freemangordon, also new library is readed from /usr/lib/? |
| 15:03.14 | freemangordon | Pali: what library? |
| 15:03.30 | Pali | your new powemenu library |
| 15:03.48 | Pali | e.g. if systemui will reinit library when changed or not |
| 15:03.56 | Pali | if not then I must restart systemui |
| 15:04.04 | freemangordon | Pali: no, you have to restart systemui |
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| 16:32.07 | kerio | freemangordon: when are you going to update tklock in cssu-devel? |
| 16:32.17 | kerio | and/or when are you going to fix tklock? |
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| 16:41.15 | Pali | hm, what about adding portrait support to tklock? |
| 16:41.21 | Pali | background image can be same |
| 16:41.46 | Pali | only need to rotate text with swipe widget |
| 16:41.57 | tadzik | it is causes it to be as slow as qtlockscreen... |
| 16:42.34 | tadzik | I'd rather have another time label, rotated by 90 degrees, so you don't have to cock your head |
| 16:42.37 | kerio | Pali: the default image wouldn't work, the clock would end up on a bright image |
| 16:42.44 | kerio | *bright part of the image |
| 16:42.54 | Pali | ah |
| 16:43.12 | kerio | hm, maybe not, actually |
| 16:46.13 | merlin1991 | just plugged 2 n900 chargers in to be able to triple check bugs |
| 16:46.28 | kerio | :D |
| 16:47.01 | merlin1991 | Pali: the profile swap widget you did, does it support portriat? |
| 16:47.04 | merlin1991 | *portrait* |
| 16:48.00 | Pali | merlin1991, do you mean status menu profile applet? |
| 16:48.11 | kerio | Pali: have you used qt? |
| 16:48.18 | Pali | where? |
| 16:48.20 | kerio | the space between buttons is different |
| 16:48.27 | kerio | in the profile switcher status menu applet |
| 16:48.33 | Pali | qt in hildon status menu plugin? |
| 16:48.40 | Pali | that is not possible |
| 16:48.50 | kerio | Pali: then why is there a lot of space between the buttons? D: |
| 16:49.14 | Pali | kerio, because I still do not know how gtk counting spaces |
| 16:49.55 | merlin1991 | Pali: yes |
| 16:50.03 | kerio | i see |
| 16:50.23 | Pali | merlin1991, I did not added any hildon window flags, because it is modal dialog |
| 16:50.37 | Pali | and I think that dialogs do not need portrait flag |
| 16:50.59 | Pali | if parent window has portrit flag, then dialog will be rotated to portrait too |
| 16:51.15 | merlin1991 | the stock plugin seems to have some problem, but atm I can't test it since my -T device isn't booted yet :D |
| 16:51.30 | kerio | Pali: opening the internet connection dialog when a window is in portrait turns everything back to landscape |
| 16:51.37 | kerio | except when no window is in front |
| 16:51.39 | Pali | kerio, relevant lines: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-menu-applet-profiles/blobs/master/profiles_status_menu_item.c#line232 https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-menu-applet-profiles/blobs/master/profiles_status_menu_item.c#line245 |
| 16:51.42 | Pali | for spaces |
| 16:51.51 | Pali | there is TRUE, TRUE arguments |
| 16:51.57 | Pali | need to understand what doing |
| 16:52.43 | Pali | merlin1991, I do not have enabled forced rotation and profile dialog rotating... |
| 16:52.52 | Pali | I have last hildon from cssu-devel |
| 16:53.20 | kerio | Pali: yep, it goes back to landscape |
| 16:53.25 | kerio | but it works fine when forced |
| 16:53.51 | Pali | kerio, what? new profile dialog? |
| 16:53.56 | kerio | yes |
| 16:54.08 | Pali | hm, why then it working on my n900? |
| 16:54.20 | kerio | Pali: hildon-home cheats |
| 16:54.32 | kerio | open a window that rotates in portrait and test again |
| 16:54.32 | Pali | kerio, do you have last hildon-home from cssu-devel? |
| 16:54.58 | kerio | hm, no i don't, actually |
| 16:55.05 | kerio | it doesn't rotate to landscape to open the dialogs? neat |
| 16:55.24 | Pali | yes |
| 16:55.32 | Pali | hm, that is stupid |
| 16:55.58 | Pali | but when I rotate to landscape and then back to portrait, dialog rotate back to portrait |
| 16:56.00 | Pali | why?? |
| 16:56.09 | Pali | this sounds like bug in hildon-home |
| 16:58.31 | Pali | ping arcean |
| 16:58.52 | merlin1991 | ping andre__ |
| 16:59.37 | andre__ | merlin1991, pong |
| 16:59.49 | merlin1991 | I totally forgot to bring you into the loop |
| 16:59.58 | merlin1991 | in 2 hours we'll have a meeting here |
| 17:00.05 | merlin1991 | and part of that will be squashing of bugs :) |
| 17:00.08 | arcean | Pali: give me steps to reproduce :) |
| 17:02.08 | Pali | arcean, install hildon status menu profile applet from cssu-devel. that is my rewrite which open normal modal dialog without portrait flag. Disable forcerotation. Open desktop and rotate phone to portrait. Then open status menu and click on profile selector |
| 17:02.29 | Pali | profile modal dialog will open in portrait mode |
| 17:03.52 | Pali | next open CSSU calculator (which has native portrait mode support), rotate phone to portrait and click on status menu again |
| 17:04.09 | Pali | then open profile selector and for unknown reason it will rotate screen to landscape |
| 17:04.21 | Pali | arcean: so this is bug |
| 17:04.38 | arcean | Pali: could you try with another portrait-capable application? |
| 17:04.43 | arcean | like e.g Settings? |
| 17:05.11 | kerio | arcean: this isn't even a problem of the profile selector specifically |
| 17:05.17 | kerio | every dialog opened from the status menu does that |
| 17:05.56 | Pali | arcean, I opened settings in portrait mode and then opened hildon status menu and clicked on profile selector button |
| 17:06.04 | Pali | it again rotated screen to landscape |
| 17:06.08 | kerio | i'm not sure what's the bug, though - is it that it goes back to landscape, or is it that when h-d is on the home, it doesn't rotate to landscape? |
| 17:07.09 | Pali | when I'm opening status menu from desktop and then opening profile selector it will not rotate to landscape |
| 17:07.52 | arcean | Pali: could you reboot and try again? |
| 17:08.12 | arcean | it works fine here |
| 17:08.29 | Pali | arcean, I cannot reboot now, because I'm testing battery status menu plugin |
| 17:08.40 | arcean | oh |
| 17:08.43 | Pali | I will reboot after battery will be fully charged |
| 17:08.44 | arcean | kerio: ? :D |
| 17:08.59 | kerio | arcean: technically those dialogs aren't marked as "supports portrait" |
| 17:09.15 | kerio | so why are they forcibly rotated by h-d when there's no window in focus? |
| 17:09.23 | arcean | it depends on the parent window |
| 17:09.42 | arcean | when there's no window, the parent window is the desktop |
| 17:09.45 | Pali | arcean, it is needed to add portrait flags to modal dialogs too? |
| 17:09.57 | kerio | why does the desktop forcibly rotate stuff when forcerotate is disabled? |
| 17:10.05 | arcean | Pali: no |
| 17:10.12 | Pali | ok |
| 17:10.30 | arcean | kerio: because the desktop supports portrait |
| 17:10.40 | kerio | the calculator supports portrait too |
| 17:10.45 | arcean | and people wanted such behaviour |
| 17:10.46 | kerio | OMP supports portrait too |
| 17:11.20 | kerio | arcean: either say "ok, h-d will forcibly rotate dialogs opened from the status menu when in portrait" or make it configurable |
| 17:11.24 | arcean | kerio: it works fine here, so maybe something has changed in the latest release from cssu-devel :) |
| 17:11.24 | kerio | anything else is a bug |
| 17:11.40 | kerio | i'm using the h-d from -T5 |
| 17:13.50 | arcean | i'm going to downgrade h-d and check how it works |
| 17:14.08 | Pali | hm, and there is another problem. If I have phone in portrait mode and I will start Calculator from application menu, it will rotate to landscape for unknown reason... |
| 17:14.09 | Pali | why? |
| 17:14.23 | merlin1991 | hm 36 bugs to look at, that's going to be fun |
| 17:14.30 | kerio | Pali: keep holding the phone upright when you do that, it should stay in portrait |
| 17:14.30 | arcean | Pali: depends |
| 17:14.54 | arcean | Pali: if the device lies flat on a table, if an application uses Qt, etc |
| 17:15.01 | merlin1991 | kerio: come on, proper bug reports should be made on -T6 ;) |
| 17:15.05 | Pali | Calculator is Qt |
| 17:15.12 | kerio | merlin1991: sssssh |
| 17:15.24 | kerio | merlin1991: or they won't take my bug reports seriously! |
| 17:15.41 | Pali | arcean, is there any problem with Qt? |
| 17:16.01 | arcean | Pali: yes, a lot |
| 17:16.19 | kerio | Pali: qt sucks |
| 17:16.32 | arcean | Qt plays with window's flags on device orientation change |
| 17:16.34 | kerio | Pali: for instance, it doesn't follow my xkb layout |
| 17:17.26 | Pali | ah, ok |
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| 17:31.07 | arcean | Pali: I've just checked this and it might be a good idea to add portrait_support flag to the dialog's window |
| 17:32.44 | Pali | arcean, I added portrait flag to usbmode status menu widget and it rotate to landscape too |
| 17:33.48 | merlin1991 | hm usbmode status menu widget |
| 17:33.51 | merlin1991 | I don't know that |
| 17:34.01 | merlin1991 | it's like secret candy .D |
| 17:34.53 | Pali | merlin1991, part of package usbmode.sh |
| 17:35.15 | arcean | Pali: parent window was in portrait? |
| 17:35.34 | Pali | arcean, what is parent window of hildon status menu? |
| 17:36.00 | arcean | the thing in the back :) |
| 17:36.10 | arcean | desktop, or an application |
| 17:36.26 | Pali | application control panel, and yes it was in portrait |
| 17:36.47 | Pali | hm, now I see where is problem |
| 17:36.49 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/usbmode/blobs/master/cpusbmode.c#line284 |
| 17:37.03 | Pali | I need to add portrait mode flag to dialog too |
| 17:38.19 | Pali | arcean, but I think that modal dialog should have also portrait flag if parent window has |
| 17:40.06 | arcean | indeed |
| 17:40.31 | arcean | IIRC I was working on this some time ago |
| 17:40.50 | arcean | but ... where are my notes ? :D |
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| 18:19.27 | luf | kerio: do you have win 7 64-bit? |
| 18:19.54 | kerio | luf: nope |
| 18:19.57 | kerio | not even in a VM |
| 18:20.49 | luf | Hmmm neither me. I can't reproduce the problem with bluez-4.99 and win 7 :( |
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| 18:22.10 | kerio | cool |
| 18:22.13 | kerio | CLOSED CANTREPRODUCE |
| 18:25.15 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.50 | luf | It seems I'll be available at 20:00. Bye now. |
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| 18:37.50 | arcean | heh, "Bastard hack part 2" http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/libmatchbox2/blobs/master/matchbox/core/mb-window-manager.c#line691 |
| 18:39.23 | kerio | arcean: classic :D |
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| 18:52.19 | chem|st | merlin1991: meeting is where? |
| 18:52.52 | chem|st | freemangordon: it is not a borked git... |
| 18:52.57 | merlin1991 | here |
| 18:53.10 | chem|st | ok |
| 18:53.12 | merlin1991 | because we abuse #maemo-ssu for everything :) |
| 18:53.24 | chem|st | feels abusive! |
| 18:53.40 | chem|st | merlin1991: any further idea on modest? |
| 18:53.59 | merlin1991 | handcraft a .changes file and grab deb and tar.gz from -testing |
| 18:54.17 | chem|st | merlin1991: does not solve it for the future |
| 18:54.52 | merlin1991 | why, we could make a build once copy after policy |
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| 18:55.10 | luf | I'm back :) |
| 18:55.21 | merlin1991 | and even 5 mins early |
| 18:56.13 | luf | It should be marked as a bug :D |
| 18:57.28 | chem|st | merlin1991: where will we store these |
| 18:57.56 | chem|st | an idea would be that you delete stuff which should not go to stable... |
| 18:58.13 | merlin1991 | well we only have to "store" the changes files everything else is in the maemo.org repo :) |
| 18:58.27 | merlin1991 | alternatively I can just upload each release into a folder on my server |
| 18:58.45 | merlin1991 | so far there are still 396G of free space |
| 19:00.01 | chem|st | as long as we delete obsolete stuff that would be prefered |
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| 19:00.19 | chem|st | looking at stuff like qt4... I could miss to download thihngs |
| 19:01.25 | merlin1991 | well you can even abuse the server to forward to maemo.org |
| 19:01.36 | chem|st | I have osso-wlan qt-x11-maemo osso-xterm curl and libxml2 in the pipe for now |
| 19:02.31 | chem|st | I might get to upload and release on saturday |
| 19:02.50 | freemangordon | chem|st: don;t forget tinymail |
| 19:02.53 | chem|st | I'm late on microb tinymail and modest then |
| 19:03.26 | merlin1991 | okay we've passed the starting time, ping Pali arcean andre__ DocScrutinizer05 freemangordon luf Sc0rpius chem|st |
| 19:03.35 | freemangordon | pong |
| 19:03.35 | Pali | pong |
| 19:03.38 | chem|st | pong |
| 19:03.39 | luf | pong |
| 19:03.39 | arcean | pong |
| 19:04.05 | andre__ | pong, though slacking |
| 19:04.15 | Pali | romaxa is not here |
| 19:04.29 | Pali | and did not reply on my mail |
| 19:05.19 | freemangordon | Pali: well, either way he can't do much but give an advisi, so |
| 19:05.23 | freemangordon | *advise |
| 19:05.54 | merlin1991 | well topics we have: bugs, browser-ui, new stuff (systemui mainly) and whatever someone throws in right now |
| 19:06.11 | chem|st | wristwraps |
| 19:06.13 | freemangordon | glibc |
| 19:06.18 | freemangordon | and kernel |
| 19:06.58 | freemangordon | luf: what about bluetoothd? |
| 19:07.00 | Pali | new stuff -> battery & profile status menu plugin |
| 19:07.05 | freemangordon | hmm, is he here? |
| 19:07.19 | merlin1991 | luf did pong 4 mins ago ;) |
| 19:07.22 | luf | freemangordon: bug reported againist win7 |
| 19:07.28 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:07.34 | Pali | rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait |
| 19:07.56 | luf | So I'm not sure if it's ready. But I stuck as I can't reproduce because no win7 here. |
| 19:08.18 | freemangordon | ok, I propose to leave the bugs(those on the bugtracker) for the end. |
| 19:08.19 | merlin1991 | luf I have that here |
| 19:08.33 | freemangordon | luf: where did you search for that? |
| 19:08.35 | freemangordon | :P |
| 19:09.03 | luf | freemangordon: Here in my computer ;) |
| 19:09.04 | merlin1991 | luf and since I bought my latest notebook I even have a bluetooth adapter inside :) |
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| 19:09.18 | freemangordon | merlin1991: do you agree with ^^^ |
| 19:09.26 | freemangordon | bugs at the end that is |
| 19:09.40 | arcean | bluetooth insideâ„¢ |
| 19:09.46 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 19:10.06 | merlin1991 | yep bugs at the end I'd say |
| 19:10.45 | freemangordon | ok, lets start with the most critical stuff in my book - systemui |
| 19:11.19 | merlin1991 | perfect, give us an overview please :) |
| 19:11.26 | freemangordon | merlin1991: powerkeymenu is more than ready, so it will be good to include it along with h-d |
| 19:11.37 | freemangordon | alarmui: |
| 19:12.03 | freemangordon | not 100% sure, but lets bite the bullet and include it too |
| 19:12.14 | freemangordon | I had some reports, but nothing real |
| 19:12.23 | freemangordon | as information that is |
| 19:12.48 | freemangordon | so, lets include it and see how it will go |
| 19:13.04 | freemangordon | btw anyone using it? |
| 19:13.08 | freemangordon | (besides me) |
| 19:13.25 | luf | I'm using alarmui. |
| 19:13.43 | arcean | alarmui tklock powerkeymenu |
| 19:13.50 | freemangordon | luf: 0.3.3? |
| 19:14.43 | luf | No :( |
| 19:15.03 | Pali | I'm using all packages from cssu-devel for one day |
| 19:15.13 | freemangordon | ok, the rest, please install and test it, so if something arise, merlin1991 will exclude it from the next -testing. or will include a fixed version, it depends of the nature of the bug, Agree? |
| 19:15.20 | freemangordon | luf: 0.3.2? |
| 19:15.57 | luf | I'm imbecil. I installed it only on my dev N900 :( it seems. I was sure I installed it also on prod one. |
| 19:16.22 | freemangordon | luf: well, now you can do it :P |
| 19:16.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991: do you agree? ^^^ |
| 19:17.02 | luf | What's the package name? |
| 19:17.11 | freemangordon | osso-systemui-alarm |
| 19:17.13 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 19:17.37 | luf | I have 0.3 |
| 19:17.52 | freemangordon | luf: thats older than me :D |
| 19:18.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991: here? |
| 19:18.50 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 19:18.53 | luf | No it can't as it's your version :D |
| 19:19.13 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: according to changelog 0.3 was your first re release |
| 19:19.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I know, I am kidding |
| 19:19.46 | freemangordon | but there are lots of bug fixed between 0.3 and 0.3.2 |
| 19:20.02 | freemangordon | 0.3.3 is just using osso-system-ui-dev, no code changes |
| 19:20.09 | merlin1991 | ah well I'd say if we have a few users on 0.3.2 and nothing shows up untill I pussh -T7 it can go in |
| 19:20.35 | freemangordon | merlin1991: 0.3.3 is the latest. and that's what is in the repo |
| 19:20.40 | merlin1991 | or that :) |
| 19:20.43 | freemangordon | :) |
| 19:21.05 | freemangordon | ok. now tklock: |
| 19:21.19 | freemangordon | first - it works :D |
| 19:21.26 | freemangordon | but has a visual glitch |
| 19:22.32 | freemangordon | and i'll appreciate if someone (Pali, arcean, whoever) help me on that. Not that I can't fix it on myself, but it will take me more time that really needed |
| 19:23.05 | freemangordon | the bug is 100% reproducible |
| 19:23.40 | freemangordon | merlin1991: in short - it is not ready for -testing |
| 19:23.56 | luf | +1 |
| 19:24.08 | freemangordon | luf: ? |
| 19:24.20 | luf | +1 - it is not ready for -testing |
| 19:24.22 | freemangordon | elaborate plese, is there anything besides that visual glitch? |
| 19:24.26 | freemangordon | *please |
| 19:24.33 | merlin1991 | luf agrees with you, that's all |
| 19:24.36 | arcean | freemangordon: is it a problem with window's repainting? |
| 19:24.36 | luf | No. but it's enough. |
| 19:24.40 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:24.45 | freemangordon | arcean: yes |
| 19:24.45 | Pali | portrait mode swipe slider :-) |
| 19:24.59 | freemangordon | Pali: that's RFC :P |
| 19:25.38 | Pali | I will look at it after battery applet & rx51 bme replacement will working... |
| 19:26.07 | freemangordon | Pali: have in mind stock one leaks memory like mad |
| 19:26.15 | merlin1991 | so for tklock I'd suggest you write the actual bug down somewhere (since that's missing in your description) and then everybody can feel free to step in |
| 19:26.18 | freemangordon | it is up to you of course |
| 19:26.59 | luf | freemangordon: alarmui doesn't follow package name convention (missing cssu in version) |
| 19:27.12 | freemangordon | merlin1991: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-12-12.log.html#t2012-12-12T13:23:34 |
| 19:27.27 | freemangordon | luf: possible, will fix it |
| 19:27.40 | freemangordon | maybe it is missing licensing too |
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| 19:27.47 | freemangordon | will fix it as well |
| 19:28.09 | freemangordon | the link I posted is the "bug report" against tklock |
| 19:28.48 | merlin1991 | okay so that's about tklock then |
| 19:28.55 | freemangordon | i think yes |
| 19:29.19 | freemangordon | but please, lets give that top priority |
| 19:29.32 | merlin1991 | yeah the memleaks are insane |
| 19:29.36 | freemangordon | we are talking memory leak after all |
| 19:30.14 | merlin1991 | next I'd say rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait |
| 19:30.30 | merlin1991 | Pali: did anybody test it besides yourself? |
| 19:30.54 | freemangordon | merlin1991: if Pali used what i've sent to him, I use that for the last year or so |
| 19:30.57 | Pali | I'm using it and no problem |
| 19:31.11 | Pali | freemangordon, I used version with some changes |
| 19:31.32 | freemangordon | well, NFC then :) |
| 19:31.46 | Pali | see commits: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait/commits/master |
| 19:31.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991: this is not critical, I'd say push it |
| 19:32.04 | freemangordon | lets procedd as with alarmui |
| 19:32.09 | Pali | freemangordons version + this patch: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait/commit/5b17a2fd50ef1a482bcfb5ef52a0c5c61ff2f92c |
| 19:32.47 | Pali | it has better avatar support (should be same/similar as original version) |
| 19:33.10 | Pali | merlin1991, do not forget to add dependency to cssu metapackage |
| 19:33.26 | freemangordon | Pali: is that in -devel? |
| 19:33.33 | Pali | yet |
| 19:33.37 | Pali | yes |
| 19:33.44 | freemangordon | ok, going to install it |
| 19:33.56 | luf | Pali: also missing +XcssuY in version |
| 19:34.02 | luf | I'm going to install it too. |
| 19:34.05 | arcean | a couple of people uses messaging-ui here without complains |
| 19:34.28 | Pali | + we need to add that messaging-ui to hildon-home whitelist |
| 19:34.40 | Pali | without it portrait mode will not work |
| 19:34.41 | freemangordon | Pali: no |
| 19:35.00 | Pali | or you need manually enable forcerotation for testing |
| 19:35.00 | freemangordon | it looks ugly in portrait, lets leave that to users |
| 19:35.41 | freemangordon | ar at least we should finish portrait VKB before enablit portrait mode for it |
| 19:35.43 | Pali | freemangordon, that old version was really ugly, but that new is better |
| 19:35.45 | freemangordon | *or |
| 19:35.49 | Pali | ok |
| 19:36.02 | freemangordon | Pali: no pint without portrait VKB |
| 19:36.06 | freemangordon | *point |
| 19:36.08 | merlin1991 | I'll put a notice into the cssu changelog that in order to use it one has to whitelist it, that should be enough for now |
| 19:36.20 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 19:36.20 | Pali | but at least package can be added to cssu for forcerotation users |
| 19:36.27 | freemangordon | sure |
| 19:37.15 | merlin1991 | okay, next up profile status menu plugin |
| 19:37.39 | merlin1991 | afaik it does what the original does + enables one to use additional defined profiles? |
| 19:37.50 | Pali | yes |
| 19:38.06 | Pali | it show all configured profiles in dialog |
| 19:38.13 | merlin1991 | are there more than 2 profiles defined by default? |
| 19:38.14 | Pali | not only general & silent |
| 19:38.20 | Pali | no |
| 19:38.24 | freemangordon | Pali: how to add more? |
| 19:38.30 | Pali | only general & silent are defined in config files |
| 19:38.51 | freemangordon | Pali: is that FOSS replacement? |
| 19:39.53 | Pali | new profile for profiled daemon can be created: create new file in /etc/profiled/number-name.conf and write here one line [name] |
| 19:40.00 | Pali | that should be enought |
| 19:40.08 | luf | ProfilesX? |
| 19:40.17 | Pali | (+ wait some time, until profiled daemon will reread configuration) |
| 19:40.40 | Pali | I do not know what profilesX and other profilesometing apps doing |
| 19:40.55 | Pali | byt my dialog read available profiles from profiled daemon |
| 19:41.14 | Pali | note that profiled daemon is closed in fremante, but was opened for harmattan |
| 19:41.30 | freemangordon | Pali: my question is - on "stock" CSSU, the only difference will be that new one is FOSS, ain't? |
| 19:41.51 | Pali | yes |
| 19:42.02 | merlin1991 | and it will allow to use more profiles |
| 19:42.04 | Pali | plus new will show all profiles (not only general & silent) |
| 19:42.06 | freemangordon | well, why not then |
| 19:42.09 | freemangordon | ok, ok |
| 19:42.29 | merlin1991 | Pali: is there an ui to configure a new profile or does one have todo that by hand? |
| 19:42.55 | Pali | merlin1991, maybe profile<someting> application can do something |
| 19:42.57 | Pali | no idea |
| 19:43.14 | merlin1991 | oh okay so for now we only have the *better* status-menu applet |
| 19:43.17 | luf | ProfilesX can be used (I'm using it). |
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| 19:43.33 | freemangordon | luf: and how do you shwitch the profiles? |
| 19:43.34 | vi_ | yo. |
| 19:43.37 | Pali | luf, can you install new profile status menu and test? |
| 19:43.38 | luf | But I see no change except FOSS replacement for status menu plugin. |
| 19:43.54 | freemangordon | luf: well, that's good enough reason :) |
| 19:44.19 | luf | Status menu -> Profile -> (dialog with all profiles) |
| 19:44.20 | luf | Power menu -> just silent & normal |
| 19:44.26 | Pali | harmattan profiled is compatible (and code seems to be same) as freamantle |
| 19:44.36 | freemangordon | wait, wait |
| 19:44.41 | Pali | I'm using harmattan profiled for a long time |
| 19:44.53 | luf | freemangordon: I'm just asking what's changed/ |
| 19:44.54 | Pali | I tested both versions with widget and working fine |
| 19:45.02 | freemangordon | powerkeymenu shows what's in .xml |
| 19:45.05 | freemangordon | luf: ^^^ |
| 19:45.41 | freemangordon | now we have the source, we can add whatever we want there |
| 19:45.53 | freemangordon | Pali: once created, can you edit it somehow? |
| 19:45.59 | freemangordon | the profile that is |
| 19:46.12 | freemangordon | from settings or wherever? |
| 19:46.13 | Pali | by editing that text file |
| 19:46.18 | freemangordon | well, ok |
| 19:46.24 | Pali | maybe 3rd apps can support it |
| 19:46.30 | Pali | but I do not know |
| 19:46.33 | freemangordon | Pali: well, it is not that easy |
| 19:46.46 | freemangordon | I mean, it'll mess up powerkeymenu |
| 19:46.51 | Pali | by new dialog, you can change vibrate option |
| 19:47.07 | luf | I'll test status-menu-applet-profiles_0.13-1_armel.deb - again wrong naming convention (missing cssu) |
| 19:47.18 | luf | Pali it's the same as I have. |
| 19:47.42 | luf | status-menu-applet-profiles 0.12+0m5 |
| 19:47.58 | freemangordon | Pali: check https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/blobs/master/systemui.xml#line43 |
| 19:48.47 | Pali | freemangordon, if you use other profile, silent/general button will not be visiblw |
| 19:48.48 | freemangordon | if /home/user/.profiled/current contains anything but "general" or "silent", the menu will not show "profile" button |
| 19:48.59 | freemangordon | yes, but that's regression |
| 19:48.59 | Pali | I know |
| 19:49.08 | luf | No regression. |
| 19:49.29 | luf | It's same behaviour as with previous version. |
| 19:49.31 | freemangordon | luf: it is, as you can no more switch pthe profile from powerkeymenu |
| 19:49.50 | vi_ | you guys are aware of profilesX right? |
| 19:49.56 | freemangordon | the regression will come if we include additional profiles |
| 19:50.02 | freemangordon | vi_: yes |
| 19:50.12 | luf | freemangordon: It's not regression - It should be bug but no regression. |
| 19:50.13 | Pali | but cssu is not including any new profile |
| 19:50.15 | vi_ | AFAIK nicolai just tapped into unused features of profiled. |
| 19:50.17 | freemangordon | the point is that that application is not distributed with CSSU |
| 19:50.45 | vi_ | lurks. |
| 19:50.46 | Pali | freemangordon, also can you fix that xml file to show "general" profile if any other is actived? |
| 19:51.00 | Pali | now general button is show when only silent is actived |
| 19:51.11 | Pali | if we need some button, general is good idea |
| 19:51.18 | luf | I agree with Pali. |
| 19:51.22 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: the fact is, if we provide the profile applet there are still only 2 profiles existing, hence we don't have a regression |
| 19:51.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: agree |
| 19:51.38 | freemangordon | I was in the future :D |
| 19:51.53 | merlin1991 | only when we start providing an ui to add profiles we have to fix the powermenukey |
| 19:52.03 | merlin1991 | and hey thanks to you we have the source :) |
| 19:52.45 | vi_ | merlin1991: |
| 19:52.47 | freemangordon | anyway, I am ok to include that |
| 19:52.56 | merlin1991 | vi_: yes? |
| 19:52.57 | Pali | other question about profiled daemon: What about distributing harmattan open source version? |
| 19:52.59 | luf | merlin1991: there is already application providing that: profilesx - I'm using it for 2 years. |
| 19:53.00 | vi_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.19 | Pali | and is profilex using native profiled interface? |
| 19:53.20 | merlin1991 | vi_: source to powermenu key |
| 19:53.25 | Pali | or doing some hacks? |
| 19:53.25 | freemangordon | vi_: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/commits/master |
| 19:53.35 | vi_ | freemangordon: sweet! |
| 19:53.49 | luf | Pali: don't know exactly. |
| 19:54.03 | Pali | hm, I will look at profilex |
| 19:54.42 | luf | But when I choose custom profile I lost button in power menu. That's why I say it's not regression. |
| 19:55.16 | luf | freemangordon: can you change power menu xml to show silent when general in use otherwise general? |
| 19:55.17 | freemangordon | luf: if we include profilex or similar in CSSU, it will be, thats my point |
| 19:55.26 | Pali | here is one application for configruing profiles: http://maemo.org/packages/view/n9profil/ |
| 19:55.36 | luf | Why we need to include it? It's againist CSSU. |
| 19:55.36 | Pali | >> Program will change only general profil in N900. << |
| 19:55.38 | freemangordon | luf: not so easy, we need translations too |
| 19:55.46 | freemangordon | or not |
| 19:55.49 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 19:55.52 | Pali | I bet it is not using proper profiled interface |
| 19:56.10 | luf | freemangordon: No we don't. You just remove one if (or what it is) |
| 19:56.30 | Pali | here is another: http://maemo.org/packages/view/profilesx/ |
| 19:56.37 | Pali | I will look at source code |
| 19:56.38 | freemangordon | luf: trust me it is not so easy because of the priority |
| 19:56.57 | freemangordon | and a couple of other things |
| 19:57.23 | freemangordon | every menu entry is independent, so there is no way to pu a "default" |
| 19:57.27 | freemangordon | *put |
| 19:57.29 | merlin1991 | btw luf with profilesX installed does it overwrite the normal status menu plugin or is it an additional plugin? |
| 19:58.16 | luf | I think profilesx is mainly new entry in settings. I don't think it override the plugin (but maybe it does). |
| 19:59.02 | merlin1991 | it does ship a statusmenu lib, so when you only have one profile switcher now, then it definitely overwrites |
| 19:59.13 | Pali | in source code there it has own status menu plugin |
| 19:59.23 | Pali | which overwrite default |
| 19:59.38 | luf | ok then :) |
| 19:59.44 | freemangordon | hmm, we may have a problem with that |
| 19:59.50 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: why? |
| 20:00.12 | freemangordon | because we'll try to overwrite a file which is in another package |
| 20:00.16 | merlin1991 | nope |
| 20:00.17 | freemangordon | do we? |
| 20:00.19 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:00.20 | merlin1991 | the file name is different |
| 20:00.28 | freemangordon | aah |
| 20:00.28 | merlin1991 | it's haxx0ring the other plugin away |
| 20:00.47 | freemangordon | well, then we still have a problem :) |
| 20:00.51 | merlin1991 | hence it would haxx0r our plugin and so we don't have to care |
| 20:01.04 | freemangordon | you'll have to reinstall the application |
| 20:01.28 | freemangordon | maybe put a note somewhere |
| 20:01.33 | merlin1991 | you have to reinstall bb-power aswell |
| 20:01.54 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, just note that in changelog |
| 20:02.57 | merlin1991 | yep I will |
| 20:03.35 | arcean | merlin1991: could you import http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/libmatchbox2 to our repo ? |
| 20:04.15 | freemangordon | arcean, the hildon man :D |
| 20:04.19 | merlin1991 | arcean: I'll create a repo and you push whichever branch is proper into it :) |
| 20:04.30 | Pali | profilex has own status menu plugin with different name |
| 20:04.36 | arcean | ok ;) |
| 20:04.48 | luf | I don't understand what plugin is choosen when I have both installed? |
| 20:05.03 | Pali | it has own command line tool for creating new profiles |
| 20:05.08 | Pali | and also control panel widget |
| 20:05.09 | freemangordon | luf: most probably stock .desktop file is wiped |
| 20:05.22 | freemangordon | or something like that |
| 20:05.37 | Pali | so if somebody create new profile, my new version of profile status menu applet will show it |
| 20:05.59 | luf | freemangordon: you're right I see. |
| 20:06.25 | luf | No it's there. |
| 20:07.52 | merlin1991 | well the source is there and it's done by nicolai so we can ask him aswell |
| 20:08.04 | Pali | profilesx (0.5) unstable; urgency=low * hides builtin profile statusbar menu button |
| 20:08.31 | Pali | seems that there is some code for hiding original status menu item |
| 20:08.38 | luf | Ok. |
| 20:09.20 | merlin1991 | arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libmatchbox2 |
| 20:09.43 | arcean | merlin1991: thanks |
| 20:10.13 | merlin1991 | okay moving on batter plugin |
| 20:10.22 | merlin1991 | s/batter/battery/ |
| 20:10.24 | Pali | here is my repo with patched harmattan profiled which I using: https://gitorious.org/~pali/meego-middleware/pali-profiled |
| 20:10.54 | luf | Pali: why not in -devel? |
| 20:11.13 | Pali | luf, should I push it to cssu-devel? |
| 20:11.24 | Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon ^^^^ |
| 20:11.41 | luf | As I understand it's FOSS replacement for closed source profiled. |
| 20:11.43 | merlin1991 | Pali: if it works perfect why not |
| 20:11.53 | Pali | it is harmattan version of profiled with small small build patch + patch for adding profile-data package |
| 20:12.01 | Pali | ok, I will push it |
| 20:12.04 | luf | +1 |
| 20:12.15 | freemangordon | Pali: push it on gitorious first :P |
| 20:12.26 | Pali | freemangordon, it is on gitorious |
| 20:12.30 | Pali | see link |
| 20:12.31 | freemangordon | in CSSU? |
| 20:12.36 | Pali | not in cssu |
| 20:12.46 | Pali | cloned in meego-middleware |
| 20:12.47 | freemangordon | well, that's what I mean |
| 20:13.08 | Pali | first need to create repo :-) |
| 20:13.13 | luf | Pali: please follow the naming conversion (cssu in version) |
| 20:13.21 | freemangordon | Pali: lets keep the source code of packages in CSSU in one place |
| 20:13.28 | freemangordon | that one too |
| 20:13.42 | Pali | luf, ok |
| 20:14.07 | Pali | merlin1991, can you create "profiled" cssu git repo? |
| 20:14.14 | merlin1991 | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/profiled |
| 20:14.23 | freemangordon | lol, you're fast |
| 20:14.26 | freemangordon | :P |
| 20:14.32 | luf | (merlin1991) okay moving on battery plugin |
| 20:14.56 | freemangordon | Pali: is that in -devel? |
| 20:15.01 | freemangordon | battery |
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| 20:15.04 | Pali | not yet |
| 20:15.06 | merlin1991 | yep afaik it's been in cssu-devel for some time, and there have been various bug reports on tmo, what's the current state? |
| 20:15.07 | Pali | battery yes |
| 20:15.14 | Pali | (profiled not) |
| 20:15.18 | freemangordon | battery |
| 20:15.27 | Pali | I'm fixing battery |
| 20:15.31 | Pali | there are some bugs |
| 20:15.38 | Pali | now testing dicharging :P |
| 20:16.03 | luf | -1 for including into -testing now |
| 20:16.19 | freemangordon | luf: no way to include it in -testing aiui |
| 20:16.23 | freemangordon | now |
| 20:16.57 | freemangordon | lest go on then |
| 20:17.01 | freemangordon | *lets |
| 20:17.02 | Pali | battery is not ready for -testing yet |
| 20:17.10 | merlin1991 | okay, then next is glibc |
| 20:17.26 | freemangordon | well, glibc as such is in -devel for some time |
| 20:17.35 | freemangordon | with patches from zeq |
| 20:17.47 | merlin1991 | where to we have them? |
| 20:18.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: rephrase please, cannot parse |
| 20:18.23 | merlin1991 | where is the source |
| 20:18.30 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 20:18.37 | luf | freemangordon: is it also used in -thumb? |
| 20:18.37 | Pali | code for profiled pushed: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/profiled |
| 20:19.00 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: is everything in https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc or are there additional patches? |
| 20:19.11 | freemangordon | everything is there |
| 20:19.20 | arcean | merlin1991: I don't have privileges to push anything to the libmatchbox2 repo :P |
| 20:19.48 | freemangordon | glibc developer seems like clever guys, fallback code was already there :D |
| 20:19.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ |
| 20:19.54 | merlin1991 | arcean: wtf? |
| 20:19.59 | freemangordon | *developers |
| 20:20.20 | merlin1991 | arcean: gitorious could one of its usual hiccups |
| 20:20.20 | freemangordon | merlin1991: afaik arcean don;t have push rights |
| 20:20.43 | merlin1991 | ah wait true |
| 20:20.49 | luf | freemangordon: is the new glibc used in -thumb? |
| 20:20.54 | freemangordon | luf: no |
| 20:21.01 | freemangordon | i don't dare |
| 20:21.10 | freemangordon | neither I have time to play with it |
| 20:21.17 | freemangordon | s/have/had/ |
| 20:21.27 | luf | Is it tested? |
| 20:21.49 | merlin1991 | arcean: now you should be able to |
| 20:22.05 | freemangordon | luf: hmm, hard to say. assume as if it is not. |
| 20:22.19 | merlin1991 | so what do you suggest, inclusion or not? |
| 20:22.29 | arcean | merlin1991: wow, thank you :) |
| 20:22.47 | luf | freemangordon: I'm surprised. Do you use the new glibc? |
| 20:23.07 | freemangordon | i installed glibc on my devel device some month ago, not sure if I have it installed on primary |
| 20:23.09 | freemangordon | lemme check |
| 20:23.33 | freemangordon | no, stock one |
| 20:24.18 | freemangordon | luf: don;t be. the ultimate goal was glibc+kernel, but you know what happened with wiki. and I switched to systemui at some point |
| 20:24.36 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: quick question, is a proper kernel (headers) required to build this glibc with ppoll support or is it enough to build on stock scratchbox straigt from the source? |
| 20:25.52 | luf | to be honest I don't remember |
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| 20:26.54 | luf | freemangordon: can you refresh my memory? |
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| 20:30.25 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: last thing we got from you was <freemangordon> luf: don;t be. the ultimate goal was glibc+kernel, but you know what happened with wiki. and I switched to systemui at some point |
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| 20:31.16 | freemangordon_ | Merlin1991: i know, for some reason i cannot connect to freenode from my desktop, gimme a couple of minutes |
| 20:31.40 | luf | Pali: what about pulseaudio? |
| 20:31.47 | Pali | there are also my other patches for upstart, pulseaudio & ke-recv |
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| 20:32.12 | freemangordon__ | hmm, should be ok now |
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| 20:32.49 | Pali | commits: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commits/master |
| 20:32.50 | merlin1991 | Pali: walk us through them |
| 20:32.56 | freemangordon__ | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/commits/master |
| 20:33.01 | freemangordon__ | the fuck? |
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| 20:33.20 | kerio | freemangordon: don't abandon us! |
| 20:33.39 | Pali | pulseaudio, there are patches for network support |
| 20:33.43 | freemangordon__ | kerio: take it easy |
| 20:34.11 | Pali | first is that we need to decrease ABI version due to nokia devs! |
| 20:34.14 | freemangordon__ | merlin1991: i'll continue on glibc after PA |
| 20:34.15 | kerio | freemangordon__: /ns regain freemangordon |
| 20:34.31 | Pali | see commit + links: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commit/5b6b4843defa6e7778fd2d73653ec7e54410a207 |
| 20:34.36 | luf | Pali: why did you changed version >=16 -> version == 16? |
| 20:35.10 | Pali | luf, becase maemo version 16 is incompatible with new upstream versions |
| 20:35.45 | luf | I understand the ABI change. What I don't understand is the code change ... |
| 20:36.02 | freemangordon | Pali: shouldn't it be 15? |
| 20:36.13 | luf | pulseaudio/src/pulse/context.c: |
| 20:36.18 | luf | - if (c->version >= 16) { |
| 20:36.18 | luf | + if (c->version == 16) { |
| 20:36.19 | merlin1991 | luf: the code makes sure only on version 16 and not on anything above (which will be inside anything recent) the maemo stuff is enabled |
| 20:36.46 | Pali | if I connect from desktop with pulseaudio 26 maemo pulseaudio will disconnect me |
| 20:37.08 | Pali | becase maemo version 16 is incompatible with new upstream version |
| 20:37.14 | freemangordon | aah, yes |
| 20:37.18 | freemangordon | luf: +AC_SUBST(PA_PROTOCOL_VERSION, 15) |
| 20:37.34 | luf | Pali: Why just don't ifdef out? |
| 20:37.53 | merlin1991 | luf: because we don#t know which closed parts on our beloved n900 depend on those extensiosn |
| 20:38.02 | luf | aaagh I get it to work with non-patched N900 :) |
| 20:38.03 | merlin1991 | *extensions* |
| 20:38.04 | freemangordon | Pali: aiui, the only version that will have problems with maemo will be 16, correct? |
| 20:38.19 | Pali | yes |
| 20:38.21 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:38.33 | luf | Ok |
| 20:38.35 | freemangordon | but thats aincient anyway |
| 20:38.42 | freemangordon | *ancient |
| 20:38.46 | merlin1991 | any desktop should be past that hence save |
| 20:38.53 | freemangordon | yep, ok |
| 20:38.57 | Pali | all versions < 16 should work |
| 20:39.03 | luf | Pali: are you tested/check the memory usage as asked by freemangordon? |
| 20:39.04 | Pali | all versions > 16 should work |
| 20:39.34 | Pali | luf, I looked that time when freemangordon asked me |
| 20:39.44 | Pali | find in log |
| 20:40.15 | Pali | but I did not check memory usage with network |
| 20:41.11 | freemangordon | Pali: if you insist there should be no change in day-to-day usage I'm ok with that |
| 20:41.30 | Pali | I did not see any changes |
| 20:41.39 | freemangordon | But I really would love to now why Nokia did that patch |
| 20:41.49 | freemangordon | *know |
| 20:42.19 | Pali | I think that patch is stupid |
| 20:42.30 | freemangordon | and TBH I can't think of a reason why PA would need 50MB |
| 20:42.38 | Pali | it decreasing size of memory block for allocation |
| 20:42.58 | freemangordon | Pali: define "memory block" please |
| 20:43.04 | Pali | I can understand that somebody decrease *count* of available memory blocks |
| 20:43.22 | Pali | but not size of block |
| 20:43.29 | freemangordon | what is "memory block" in terms of PA |
| 20:43.32 | freemangordon | ? |
| 20:43.41 | Pali | some buffer |
| 20:43.55 | Pali | of fixed size |
| 20:44.25 | Pali | in PA there is #define for size of block and for max counts of blocks |
| 20:44.42 | freemangordon | do I get it right - in your logs PA tries to allocate ~50MB? |
| 20:44.54 | Pali | so max used memory is size*count*something |
| 20:44.59 | Pali | no |
| 20:45.06 | freemangordon | what then? |
| 20:45.13 | luf | We can allocate 64*1024*1024 bytes at maximum. That's 64MB. |
| 20:45.13 | Pali | in my log PA wanted to allocate bigger block |
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| 20:45.49 | luf | Pali: can you try to reduce the PA_MEMPOOL_SLOTS_MAX and test it first? |
| 20:46.02 | Pali | ok |
| 20:46.08 | luf | I don't think it's good idea to have such big memory usage on N900 |
| 20:46.19 | freemangordon | guys, I still don't understand |
| 20:46.41 | luf | * We can allocate 64*1024*1024 bytes at maximum. That's 64MB. Please |
| 20:46.42 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.42 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.42 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.50 | Pali | freemangordon, PA want to allocate 50kB block |
| 20:46.51 | freemangordon | is "memory blck" a chunk of memory allocated at once? |
| 20:46.59 | Pali | but max size of block is 16kB |
| 20:47.03 | Pali | because of nokia patch |
| 20:47.13 | luf | Default is 64kB block. |
| 20:47.22 | luf | And maximum count of such blocks is 1024. |
| 20:47.41 | freemangordon | Pali: but,but... lemme check again |
| 20:47.54 | luf | and even more ... |
| 20:48.12 | luf | #define PA_MEMPOOL_SLOTS_MAX 1024 |
| 20:48.12 | luf | #define PA_MEMPOOL_SLOT_SIZE (64*1024) |
| 20:48.12 | luf | #define PA_MEMEXPORT_SLOTS_MAX 128 |
| 20:48.12 | luf | #define PA_MEMIMPORT_SLOTS_MAX 160 |
| 20:48.12 | luf | #define PA_MEMIMPORT_SEGMENTS_MAX 16 |
| 20:48.35 | Pali | it calling this: pa_shm_create_rw(&p->memory, p->n_blocks * p->block_size, shared, 0700) |
| 20:48.36 | freemangordon | Pali: so "Memory block too large for pool: 49956 > 16384" talks about bytes? |
| 20:48.51 | Pali | should be |
| 20:48.58 | freemangordon | aah, well, ok then |
| 20:49.35 | freemangordon | but why you didn;t tell me :(. I was thinking it means KB all the time |
| 20:49.48 | Pali | I will try to decrease SLOTS_MAX what happen |
| 20:49.52 | freemangordon | well, ok then |
| 20:50.32 | freemangordon | I am fine with that patch, esp if we limit max memory to the old value |
| 20:51.50 | Pali | I found another nokia pulseaudio git repo: https://gitorious.org/meego-voice |
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| 20:53.52 | luf | I vote for test less PA_MEMPOOL_SLOTS_MAX. After that +1 for including. |
| 20:55.18 | merlin1991 | that sounds sane |
| 20:55.40 | luf | freemangordon: can you refresh me with the kernel+glibc (I don't remember) |
| 20:56.27 | freemangordon | luf: ok |
| 20:56.50 | freemangordon | continuing from my last sentence before netsplit |
| 20:57.11 | freemangordon | so, I tested glibc+kernel with ppoll/pselect patches |
| 20:57.32 | freemangordon | the test binary don;t hang no matter what |
| 20:58.29 | freemangordon | the kernel patch https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/kernel-cssu/commit/53b42852b56c7460034f651a5806eba25061bfa8 |
| 20:59.15 | freemangordon | luf: we agreed to have a wiki page to assess what patches to be included on CSSU kernel (from KP and KCSSU) |
| 21:00.06 | freemangordon | unfortunately wiki is still screwed. So, I propose to take whet is done so far (on wiki) and to continue on some other place |
| 21:00.22 | freemangordon | don;t ask me where :) |
| 21:00.43 | freemangordon | merlin1991: any idea? |
| 21:01.13 | merlin1991 | I'll set up a mediawiki |
| 21:01.21 | freemangordon | luf: so the status is - we have the patches commited, what we mis is the assessment |
| 21:01.28 | freemangordon | *miss |
| 21:01.45 | merlin1991 | regarding the glibc, can it be built with fallback support without newer kernel headers? |
| 21:02.21 | freemangordon | merlin1991: that's how it is build, though there was some trickery. |
| 21:02.49 | luf | freemangordon: I forget what is the plus |
| 21:02.49 | kerio | oh right, the autobuilder will be a problem for that too |
| 21:02.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991: but i think i fixed it on gitorious, lemme check |
| 21:02.56 | Pali | pulseaudio patch for testing is here: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-pulseaudio |
| 21:03.07 | kerio | Pali: is the pselect patch in KP52? |
| 21:03.13 | Pali | kerio, yes |
| 21:03.17 | freemangordon | luf: proper ppoll/pselect support |
| 21:03.28 | kerio | freemangordon: is the glibc patch in cssu-thumb? |
| 21:03.34 | freemangordon | kerio: no |
| 21:03.44 | kerio | shakes his fist at freemangordon |
| 21:04.07 | luf | freemangordon: and what is a plus with this support? |
| 21:04.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yep, I fixed it https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glibc/commit/4ebeb7ea0bff96631f681ce0ea15d84f1a6f8161 |
| 21:04.41 | freemangordon | luf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/319729 |
| 21:04.59 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: so I can build it with stock omap1 headers and it should have the fallbacks enabled? |
| 21:05.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991: in theory yes. though building itself is a tricky one, i'd recommend to use my build |
| 21:05.55 | freemangordon | i.e. building glibc is not trivial |
| 21:06.00 | kerio | freemangordon: hm, have you got some optional thumby builds? |
| 21:06.06 | freemangordon | kerio: no |
| 21:06.21 | kerio | shakes his other fist at freemangordon |
| 21:06.21 | merlin1991 | hm what gcc was the base of that build? |
| 21:06.31 | freemangordon | merlin1991: 4.2.1 |
| 21:06.47 | merlin1991 | okay, still got the .changes file? ;) |
| 21:06.49 | kerio | hm, does it compile with 4.7? |
| 21:07.02 | luf | Pali: can you put it into -devel? |
| 21:07.11 | freemangordon | kerio: NFC, checkout the sources and try it |
| 21:07.39 | Pali | luf, later I need to power on virtual machine where is scratchbox |
| 21:07.49 | luf | Pali: ok. |
| 21:07.55 | freemangordon | kerio: and see my reasoning in logs why it is not in -thumb |
| 21:08.14 | luf | freemangordon: so glibc+kernel needs more testing |
| 21:08.40 | freemangordon | merlin1991: iirc you need to export some anviron var that points to kernel headers to use |
| 21:08.50 | freemangordon | luf: we don;t have kernel ;) |
| 21:09.09 | merlin1991 | I'd like to ship the patched glibc as soon as possible so that at least kp users can benefit from it |
| 21:09.26 | freemangordon | luf: and yes, glibc needs testing. though it is in -devel for month or so |
| 21:09.36 | luf | freemangordon: you wrote it can be used with the stock one |
| 21:09.43 | freemangordon | luf: yes |
| 21:09.57 | freemangordon | it can be used with whatever kernel you put |
| 21:10.12 | luf | -1 for including glibc in -testing now |
| 21:10.14 | freemangordon | (not that I tested all the kernels aound, but in theory) |
| 21:10.18 | kerio | oh, is the libc6 in -devel have that patch? |
| 21:10.26 | kerio | *does |
| 21:10.27 | freemangordon | kerio: yes |
| 21:10.45 | freemangordon | kerio: did you install it by mistake? |
| 21:10.47 | freemangordon | :P |
| 21:11.11 | kerio | freemangordon: i just do apt-get upgrade with cssu-devel enabled |
| 21:11.28 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: is going to kill you for that statement ;) |
| 21:11.44 | luf | kerio: rest in peace :D |
| 21:11.45 | merlin1991 | so general conset is to leave glibc where it is untill furhther testing? |
| 21:11.48 | freemangordon | luf: I was able to boot maemo with no ppoll/pselect in glibc. :D |
| 21:11.52 | kerio | i do check if it wants to upgrade some serious packages, if so i make sure i make sure i have time to recover and i make a backup |
| 21:11.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: i'd say include it |
| 21:12.15 | kerio | now, DocScrutinizer05 is going to kill *you* for that statement |
| 21:12.27 | freemangordon | on the same principle as alarmui and umm... what was the other package |
| 21:12.45 | luf | Isn't cheaper to kill DocScruinizer05? :D |
| 21:12.49 | freemangordon | kerio: what is your glibc version? |
| 21:12.59 | kerio | 2.5.1-1eglibc27+0m5+cssu0 |
| 21:13.14 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ |
| 21:13.19 | luf | freemangordon: I disagree. alarmui is tested by several people. glibc is not well tested. |
| 21:13.27 | kerio | tested it |
| 21:13.30 | kerio | apparently |
| 21:13.36 | luf | kerio: how long? |
| 21:13.42 | freemangordon | luf: alarmui is a rewrite, glibc is just recompiled |
| 21:13.55 | luf | It's not glibc upgrade? |
| 21:14.15 | kerio | luf: 2012-11-04, if we believe the mdate for /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 21:14.19 | freemangordon | and I've checked the code paths. and tested it with kernel with no ppoll/pselect patch |
| 21:14.31 | freemangordon | luf: no, it is not upgrade |
| 21:14.43 | freemangordon | it is the one from repos |
| 21:14.51 | kerio | to be fair it's definetely more tested than operator-name-cbs-widget >:] |
| 21:15.08 | freemangordon | compiled against different kernel headers |
| 21:15.22 | luf | Ok. I change my mind in that case +! |
| 21:15.26 | luf | +1 :) |
| 21:15.32 | merlin1991 | okay so that goes in |
| 21:15.40 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: we need your "wtf are you idiots doing" i believe |
| 21:15.42 | freemangordon | BTW the one in repos is compiled agains 2.6.16 or something |
| 21:15.45 | luf | I'll install it soon. |
| 21:15.58 | freemangordon | *against |
| 21:16.00 | merlin1991 | 2.6.16 kernel headers? |
| 21:16.07 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 21:16.08 | merlin1991 | why not omap headers? |
| 21:16.14 | freemangordon | why ask me? |
| 21:16.19 | freemangordon | :D |
| 21:16.20 | merlin1991 | ah wait |
| 21:16.23 | merlin1991 | now I understand |
| 21:16.25 | kerio | is it a nokia package? |
| 21:16.26 | merlin1991 | I thought you meant yours .P |
| 21:16.31 | kerio | or is it in an autobuilder? |
| 21:16.32 | freemangordon | no |
| 21:16.37 | merlin1991 | btw which kernel was yours built against? |
| 21:16.38 | freemangordon | "stock" one |
| 21:16.58 | kerio | yeah i meant the stock one, is it from nokia? do we know what kind of build environment they have? |
| 21:17.03 | freemangordon | merlin1991: cssu3 iirc |
| 21:17.09 | merlin1991 | kerio: yes and no |
| 21:17.10 | freemangordon | but that should not matter |
| 21:17.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991: though we'd better install it on -omap1 device before shipping in -testing |
| 21:17.59 | freemangordon | unfortunately no such device around |
| 21:18.04 | merlin1991 | <-- has one |
| 21:18.10 | freemangordon | do it then |
| 21:18.17 | merlin1991 | I'll testrun the -testing update like the last one |
| 21:18.23 | merlin1991 | for a few days at least |
| 21:18.45 | freemangordon | lemme see if I keep .changes file |
| 21:19.06 | merlin1991 | that can be rebuilt, you can check that later :) |
| 21:19.33 | merlin1991 | okay from the topic list that leaves browser-ui and bugs |
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| 21:20.17 | freemangordon | merlin1991: we'd rather not discuss browser-ui in a public channel |
| 21:20.35 | freemangordon | Pali: agree? |
| 21:20.46 | Pali | ok |
| 21:20.55 | Pali | next is patch for ke-recv :-) |
| 21:21.06 | merlin1991 | ah sry Pali forgot you had more patches |
| 21:21.10 | kerio | freemangordon: why so secret? :o |
| 21:21.11 | merlin1991 | so ke-recv what's new? |
| 21:21.25 | Pali | this https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/commit/da2585aab4e1d855644186124f6fa5014ec81e31 and this https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/commit/b66f86eb88f3f0c7c8a3eea1ac79550f4386a12f |
| 21:21.29 | freemangordon | Pali reverted my favourite patch :D |
| 21:22.21 | Pali | first is configuration option for starting only dhcp server (not dns) in usn network mode |
| 21:22.34 | freemangordon | Pali: you know my stance about https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/commit/b66f86eb88f3f0c7c8a3eea1ac79550f4386a12f |
| 21:22.43 | Pali | yes |
| 21:22.52 | freemangordon | for the other: |
| 21:22.56 | freemangordon | *others |
| 21:22.57 | Pali | second is big problem for usb host mode |
| 21:23.32 | luf | Pali: can't be the usb host mode somehow detected? |
| 21:23.35 | freemangordon | we should fix it instead of removing functionality and bringing inconsistency in UI |
| 21:23.56 | Pali | first problem is when you choose incorrect speed of usb host mode hal sometimes tell ke-recv bad info and ke-recv will try to mount non extstant /dev/ device |
| 21:24.18 | Pali | and will show message box that ke-recv was unable to mount device... |
| 21:24.31 | luf | It's not a problem - you can check if it's exist |
| 21:24.34 | freemangordon | Pali: but that should be fixed with your applet, ain't? |
| 21:24.52 | Pali | no |
| 21:25.02 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 21:25.06 | Pali | not possible to get usb host mode speed without trying at leat low |
| 21:25.13 | kerio | at the very least it should be configurable, though |
| 21:25.19 | Pali | but |
| 21:25.25 | Pali | there is second problem |
| 21:25.30 | Pali | unfixable |
| 21:25.32 | freemangordon | well, can't we modify ke-recv to try mounting after everything has settled? |
| 21:25.34 | kerio | i don't even give a tiny bit of shit about the nokia filemanager |
| 21:25.50 | freemangordon | I bet we can |
| 21:25.53 | Pali | osso file manager more times freezing or crahing when opening mounted usb flash disk |
| 21:26.20 | freemangordon | Pali: I suspect thats because ke-recv is calling it incorrectly |
| 21:26.39 | Pali | freemangordon, sometimes it working and sometimes it freezing |
| 21:26.39 | merlin1991 | Pali: what happend is you in such a case open the filemanager yourself from the launcher and navigate to the flash disk? |
| 21:26.42 | luf | Pali: in that case the freeze has to be investigated because user can start it manualy. |
| 21:26.43 | Pali | and sometimes crashing |
| 21:26.57 | freemangordon | it works if started manuallty |
| 21:27.02 | Pali | merlin1991, then it working |
| 21:27.03 | freemangordon | *manually |
| 21:27.17 | Pali | manual launch from application menu is working |
| 21:27.20 | freemangordon | Pali: thats why I say it is ke-recv not calling it as it should |
| 21:27.34 | luf | So why you can't check if the /dev/xyz exists? |
| 21:27.39 | Pali | or there can be problem that ke-recv starting it too early |
| 21:27.53 | kerio | luf: race condition |
| 21:27.54 | freemangordon | instead of dbus call, one can launch either FM or shell script |
| 21:27.54 | merlin1991 | my money is on Palis guess |
| 21:27.58 | Pali | and if file manager is started too early - race condition |
| 21:28.14 | kerio | ke-recv sees /dev/xyz, calls filemanager, /dev/xyz gets removed, filemanager goes wtf |
| 21:28.20 | Pali | file manager is closed |
| 21:28.34 | Pali | and is really stupid SW |
| 21:28.36 | freemangordon | in ke-recv :) |
| 21:28.44 | freemangordon | ok, not fix, workaround |
| 21:29.14 | Pali | btw, that code for automounting usb flash disks in usb host mode was coded by Nokia |
| 21:29.23 | Pali | only it was commented #if 0 .... |
| 21:29.25 | freemangordon | it should not matter if you mount uSD or USB |
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| 21:29.43 | freemangordon | Pali: well, thay were trying to cerify USB host |
| 21:29.49 | freemangordon | *certify |
| 21:30.07 | Pali | there can be problem. mmc is mounted in /media/ and usb device in /media/usb/ |
| 21:30.19 | Pali | and maybe some other libraries look at it differently |
| 21:30.33 | freemangordon | Pali: no matter what, we should investigate it |
| 21:30.33 | Pali | is is really hard to say what nokia done |
| 21:30.55 | luf | I see it as ugly quickfix but it's better then freezing/crashing FM |
| 21:31.03 | Pali | do you remember how nokia tell to some gtk library about FS LABEL? |
| 21:31.26 | freemangordon | Pali: me? wasn't me to fix it? :P |
| 21:31.27 | luf | Maybe some TODO comment should be added. |
| 21:31.33 | merlin1991 | since mounting anything via hostmode is already a non standard procedure I'd put this quickfix in untill we have a better solution |
| 21:31.35 | Pali | yes :D |
| 21:31.55 | merlin1991 | crashing filemanager is defenitely worse than having to launch it yourself |
| 21:31.56 | freemangordon | ok |
| 21:32.05 | Pali | note that automounting usb disks working only in cssu version |
| 21:32.10 | Pali | in stock it is disabled |
| 21:32.43 | freemangordon | hmm... maybe we should try it with fixed ppoll/pselect |
| 21:32.59 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: one step at a time ;) |
| 21:33.03 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
| 21:33.12 | merlin1991 | also that would involve a kernel and that's not going to be in the current release |
| 21:33.18 | luf | I vote for adding some TODO comment into the code. |
| 21:33.21 | merlin1991 | so + and + for the patches |
| 21:33.30 | freemangordon | luf: :nod: |
| 21:34.04 | merlin1991 | I'll add that when I build it |
| 21:34.07 | Pali | luf, write TODO that is needed to add TODO comment :D |
| 21:34.25 | merlin1991 | Pali: currently doing that on my pacakges to build + tasks list :D |
| 21:34.32 | Pali | nice :-) |
| 21:34.35 | freemangordon | merlin1991: could you open some $RANDOM channel to discuss browser? |
| 21:34.50 | Pali | next patch for upstart: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart/commits/master |
| 21:35.13 | Pali | I do not know if patch from 13 Sep is included... |
| 21:37.33 | merlin1991 | Pali: so far it is not |
| 21:37.57 | freemangordon | Pali: under what conditions lowmem kernel module is not loaded? |
| 21:38.10 | luf | Is it tested? |
| 21:38.15 | freemangordon | do we prepare for newer kernel? |
| 21:38.18 | Pali | lowmem is nokia module |
| 21:38.26 | Pali | yes for testing upstream kernel |
| 21:38.52 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, and how that relates to CSSU? not that I am agains, just curious. |
| 21:38.59 | freemangordon | *against |
| 21:39.12 | merlin1991 | well it is a system package which depends on some (c) nokia module |
| 21:39.12 | Pali | cssu is place where can be system packages patched |
| 21:39.29 | merlin1991 | but we want people to be able to use $kernel of their choice |
| 21:39.30 | merlin1991 | ... |
| 21:40.18 | merlin1991 | so I vote + on that aswell |
| 21:40.21 | luf | I have no opinion about it. So if it's tested +0.5 :) |
| 21:40.32 | kerio | Pali: how is "host mode with charging" supposed to work, btw? what are you supposed to connect and how? |
| 21:41.00 | luf | kerio: be good boy ;) |
| 21:41.04 | Pali | kerio, first establish usb host mode and then enable charging |
| 21:41.05 | freemangordon | well, ok, i'm with luf on that one. you should be really happy doc is not here :D:D:D. |
| 21:41.14 | Pali | with Y-cable |
| 21:41.28 | kerio | k |
| 21:41.39 | kerio | i don't have a usb charger sadly :( |
| 21:41.44 | freemangordon | kerio: maybe you've missed it, but there is CSSU team meeting taking place here ;) |
| 21:42.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991: what's next? |
| 21:42.42 | merlin1991 | bugs |
| 21:42.43 | Pali | I have other question |
| 21:42.47 | merlin1991 | shoot |
| 21:43.03 | luf | shooted |
| 21:43.03 | Pali | Last year I worked on open source replacement for getbootstate |
| 21:43.21 | merlin1991 | luf: *shot* ;) |
| 21:43.37 | Pali | it can be good for testing |
| 21:44.00 | luf | Pali: some overview please? I have no clue what it is. |
| 21:44.05 | Pali | code is in my bzr repo: https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_getbootstate |
| 21:44.16 | freemangordon | speaking of getbootstate, we have libcal FOSS too |
| 21:44.29 | Pali | luf, getbootstate is package which contains shell script /sbin/preinit and getbootstate |
| 21:44.39 | Pali | /sbin/preinit is called from kernel as init script |
| 21:44.55 | luf | Ah thanks. |
| 21:45.00 | Pali | and getbootstate device to enter actdead, maf or user state |
| 21:45.13 | freemangordon | Pali: on the other hand, we have a looong list of CVEs on bugzilla to fix |
| 21:45.15 | Pali | s/device/decide/ |
| 21:45.49 | Pali | ok |
| 21:46.30 | freemangordon | Pali: I hope you get me righ, I am all for FOSS replacements, but we should really give things priority |
| 21:46.34 | freemangordon | *right |
| 21:46.45 | Pali | ok |
| 21:46.51 | merlin1991 | speaking of bugzilla, we'll never managa that today, so we'll need another date, does anybody have objections against next week same day and time? |
| 21:47.17 | luf | I don't like thursday |
| 21:47.30 | merlin1991 | what do you like more :) |
| 21:47.42 | luf | I'm ok with Monday or Wednesday |
| 21:47.55 | freemangordon | luf: why, it is a small Friday :) |
| 21:48.07 | freemangordon | I am fine with Wednesday too |
| 21:48.17 | luf | Because I'm usualy not near any computer/N900 ;) |
| 21:48.51 | luf | I come back at 22:00 (or even later). Today I have to be longer at work so I have time. |
| 21:49.15 | merlin1991 | Pali, arcean any objections to wednesday next week same time? |
| 21:49.35 | Pali | it should be ok |
| 21:50.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: when do you plan to push the new -testing? |
| 21:50.30 | freemangordon | or you don't |
| 21:50.32 | freemangordon | :) |
| 21:50.55 | merlin1991 | well I went over the buglist prior to todays meeting and there is nothing on there that blocks pushing the selected packges |
| 21:51.00 | arcean | merlin1991, nope |
| 21:51.06 | merlin1991 | so I'd say somewhere around this weekend |
| 21:51.12 | freemangordon | great |
| 21:51.13 | luf | freemangordon: glibc in -devel is missing epoch in cssu version part |
| 21:51.23 | luf | I'm voting for next week. |
| 21:51.56 | luf | To have some time for testing all the packages (mainly glibc). |
| 21:52.04 | freemangordon | luf: you mean it is -cssuY instead of XcssuY? |
| 21:52.06 | merlin1991 | but I'd love to get the new h-d out before we go over the bugs because there are a few which are afaik fixed by it :D |
| 21:52.19 | luf | freemangordon: exactly |
| 21:52.35 | freemangordon | luf: yeah, we'd better have it by the end of the weekend |
| 21:53.13 | merlin1991 | I can prepare the prerelease repo on the weekend so we can go over the buglist with the new release and still test it before shipping |
| 21:53.30 | luf | I'm the only one you're two so vote ended ;) |
| 21:53.53 | freemangordon | luf: if something is broken in glibc, we'll see it pretty fast :) |
| 21:54.10 | merlin1991 | actually kerio would have screamed hate already ;) |
| 21:54.18 | luf | :D |
| 21:54.21 | freemangordon | that one too :D |
| 21:54.34 | luf | Come on someone has to be like DocS ;) |
| 21:55.03 | freemangordon | luf: you miss him, ain't? :P |
| 21:55.21 | kerio | well maybe i didn't notice EVERY BINARY EVER not working properly |
| 21:55.24 | merlin1991 | so to wrap this up next date wednesday 20:00 cet with topics (pulse if tested, bugs and browser ui) |
| 21:55.26 | luf | freemangordon: sure a lot :p |
| 21:55.27 | kerio | also where's DocS? |
| 21:55.41 | merlin1991 | kerio: no idea he said he'd be here |
| 21:56.08 | luf | Maybe we can push new kernel into -testing when DocS is missing :D |
| 21:56.17 | freemangordon | ok, glibc installed, fingers crossed |
| 21:56.25 | merlin1991 | luf: don't get too adventerous |
| 21:57.14 | merlin1991 | needs to grab some dinner, badly hence closes the meeting for today |
| 21:57.39 | freemangordon | :( |
| 21:57.43 | freemangordon | no browser-ui |
| 21:57.51 | merlin1991 | there's always another day |
| 21:57.56 | freemangordon | yeah :) |
| 21:58.00 | luf | Ok. |
| 21:58.03 | kerio | Pali: why can usbmode check for /etc/bme-disabled but the battery applet has to check dpkg? :( |
| 21:58.25 | Pali | kerio, because usbmode starting bme |
| 21:58.28 | Pali | applet not |
| 21:58.35 | luf | merlin1991: can you add check for XcssuY in version for cssu-devel? |
| 21:58.37 | freemangordon | ok, device booted :D:D:D |
| 21:58.51 | Pali | kerio, sometimes for testing you need to not start bme |
| 21:59.45 | kerio | anyway, checking for the existance of the bme binary is a lot faster |
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| 21:59.54 | kerio | and a lot lighter |
| 22:00.05 | kerio | and equivalent, too |
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| 22:01.13 | Pali | kerio, no, you have 4 states: installed bme & started bme; installed bme & stopped bme; installed replacement; uninstalled bme |
| 22:01.34 | kerio | installed replacement is functionally equivalent to removed bme binary |
| 22:01.54 | Pali | could be |
| 22:02.10 | Pali | but you have hald-addon-bme in system |
| 22:03.52 | kerio | by the way, can't the applet just use the data from the modules if available, regardless, and wait for hald-addon-bme events? |
| 22:04.38 | kerio | so it would work under ~every condition |
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