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| 08:15.05 | luf | Ugh. It seems I have empty symbol table/keyboard after CSSU-T upgrade. Can someone else testi in terminal if (s)he see the correct symbol table? |
| 08:16.20 | tadzik | symbol table? |
| 08:16.42 | luf | blue arrow + Ctrl (Sym) |
| 08:16.45 | tadzik | that only rings a bell in terms of compiler development :) |
| 08:16.52 | tadzik | oh, yes |
| 08:16.54 | tadzik | that works here |
| 08:18.22 | luf | That doesn't work here on two devices :( And I have no clue how to find what is the reason. |
| 08:18.29 | tadzik | strange |
| 08:18.35 | tadzik | what if you change the layuot in settings somewhere? |
| 08:18.49 | tadzik | I'm using Polish for this thing |
| 08:21.11 | luf | tadzik: thanks. I'm using my keyboard map. And it seems that I have to check "Using virtual keyboard:. I'll investigate it deeper. |
| 08:23.02 | luf | But for sure it worked before CSSU-T upgrade. I didn't change anything on my primary device. |
| 08:27.33 | tadzik | hmm. I think nothing at all broke for me after Thumb upgrade |
| 08:27.41 | tadzik | I must be one lucky user |
| 08:27.51 | tadzik | only OMP is slow like a snail race upstairs |
| 08:27.56 | tadzik | in rollerskates |
| 08:27.57 | tadzik | on ice |
| 08:57.06 | luf | Hmm so the problem is in int_kb_layout = us,cz |
| 09:04.58 | luf | the problem is that I'm using 2 keyboard maps and I'm able to switch between them :( so it doesn't handle well the ",". |
| 09:05.30 | tadzik | hm |
| 09:05.40 | luf | I'm pretty sure it worked before CSSU-T upgrade. Does anybody have idea what changed? |
| 09:05.53 | tadzik | I think I'm on pl,en |
| 09:06.14 | tadzik | or that's what Language 1, Language 2 says in the setting |
| 09:06.40 | luf | gconftoot-2 --get /apps/osso/inputmethod/int_kb_layout |
| 09:06.57 | luf | No it's not the same as Lang1, Lang2 |
| 09:07.28 | luf | *gconftool-2 |
| 09:08.03 | tadzik | yeah, that's just "pl" |
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| 12:22.47 | merlin1991 | luf: did you update -testing or -thumb? |
| 12:25.11 | luf | merlin1991: testing |
| 12:25.30 | luf | I didn't catch it earlier because I don't use it very often. |
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| 14:58.56 | kerio | luf: that's what you get for not being american :P |
| 14:59.32 | luf | kerio: Yes I'm proud I'm not the .... :D |
| 15:18.22 | freemangordon | yay, X starts with 3.5 and pvr driver |
| 15:18.48 | kerio | sweet |
| 15:18.51 | kerio | does anything else work? |
| 15:18.59 | freemangordon | well, but no image :D |
| 15:19.26 | freemangordon | shell works |
| 15:19.29 | freemangordon | mc too |
| 15:19.43 | luf | freemangordon: who want images when X is running? :D |
| 15:19.53 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 15:21.04 | freemangordon | unfortunately I cannot understand what happens after that :( |
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| 15:57.16 | freemangordon | luf: progress, moving dots :D |
| 15:57.44 | luf | freemangordon: hold them or they destroy the device! :D |
| 15:57.57 | freemangordon | tool late :P |
| 15:58.01 | freemangordon | *too |
| 15:58.01 | luf | freemangordon: what are you doing? thumb X ? |
| 15:58.19 | freemangordon | kernel 3.5.4 maemo :D:D:D |
| 15:59.02 | kerio | ship 3.5.4 as kernel-cssu |
| 15:59.03 | kerio | :D |
| 15:59.04 | luf | Hmmm, isn't there some binary mess from nokia which bind us to the old kernel? |
| 15:59.19 | kerio | luf: probably loads of those |
| 15:59.46 | freemangordon | i compiled PVR driver for it, and it seems to work, but won;t be sure until I have hildon-desktop running |
| 16:01.16 | luf | what is PVR driver? I know it as <something> video recorder for recording movies or other stuff from TV :D |
| 16:01.31 | luf | I know I'm lazy to study. |
| 16:01.42 | arcean | PowerVR SGX530 :P |
| 16:02.40 | luf | BTW knows anybody some method how to receive notification when new SMS arrived or was sent? |
| 16:02.56 | freemangordon | arcean: :nod: |
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| 16:05.07 | arcean | freemangordon: 3.5.4? that's good news :) |
| 16:06.50 | freemangordon | arcean: well, not exactly. upstream is missing a pile of good thing that exist in stock :( |
| 16:06.57 | freemangordon | *things |
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| 16:10.32 | freemangordon | Pali: do you know if h-d will start without mce? |
| 16:10.49 | Pali | freemangordon, I do not know |
| 16:11.05 | Pali | but I think it could |
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| 17:31.50 | Skry | freemangordon: which xorg version you are using it with (pvr)? It should work ok with the xsgx which is .10. |
| 17:48.41 | luf | Where can I write how to use AudioSink on N900 (to use N900 as BT speaker)? TMO or wiki? BTW it needs patched pulseaudio. |
| 17:49.30 | kerio | patched how? |
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| 17:49.56 | luf | It's low level right now and without possibility to change loudness ... |
| 17:50.24 | luf | kerio: add support to recognize a2dp_source over BT and add module-loopback. |
| 17:50.30 | kerio | k |
| 17:50.37 | kerio | does it work well? |
| 17:51.22 | luf | For me yes. |
| 17:56.40 | luf | So what is better place? TMO or wiki? |
| 17:56.56 | kerio | wiki and then post on TMO |
| 17:57.01 | kerio | a link to the wiki |
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| 17:59.47 | Pali | luf, create wiki page and post thread on tmo for discussion |
| 18:00.07 | Pali | luf, maybe patch should go to cssu |
| 18:00.17 | kerio | +1 |
| 18:00.43 | luf | Someone has to test it if it doesn't change some behaviour. |
| 18:00.49 | kerio | luf: are you willing and able to maintain the updated bluez and the patched pulseaudio? |
| 18:00.55 | kerio | how bigger are those, compared to stock? |
| 18:00.57 | Pali | if configuration will be easy I can test it |
| 18:01.00 | luf | Adding module-loopback is ok. |
| 18:01.13 | kerio | can the same functionality be provided by external packages installed in a clean way? |
| 18:01.28 | kerio | will they affect an user that doesn't do anything related to them? |
| 18:01.43 | kerio | if the answers are yes, not much, no and yes, then it's CSSU material |
| 18:01.51 | luf | kerio: no way (ext packages). |
| 18:02.05 | Pali | kerio, pulseaudio module should be compiled when compiling pulseadio |
| 18:02.30 | Pali | so I think this is good candicate for cssu (adding pulseaudio to cssu) |
| 18:02.32 | luf | kerio: I don't know what it make with some policy etc when you had only a2dp detection and now you have also a2dp_source. |
| 18:03.14 | luf | maybe the loopback should go into separate package. But the a2dp_source detection is part of already installed package. |
| 18:03.27 | luf | Pali: To the config: |
| 18:03.30 | kerio | nah, the loopback shouldn't go into a separate package |
| 18:03.34 | kerio | how big is it? can it be optified? |
| 18:03.56 | kerio | are the other modules in separate packages? |
| 18:04.04 | luf | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_<BT ID with _> org.bluez.AudioSource.Connect |
| 18:04.14 | luf | pactl load-module module-combine sink_name=sink.luf slaves=sink.music slave_amps=0 resample_method=trivial adjust_time=1 |
| 18:04.19 | luf | pactl load-module module-loopback source=bluez_source.00_0C_76_D3_71_7E sink=sink.luf adjust_time=1 resample_method=trivial |
| 18:04.23 | luf | That's all :) |
| 18:04.56 | kerio | wait, sink.luf? wtf |
| 18:04.57 | Pali | ah, there was my problem. it needs to use combine module |
| 18:04.58 | luf | Stop: pacrl unload-module <ID> - for both combine and loopback |
| 18:05.18 | luf | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_0C_76_D3_71_7E org.bluez.AudioSource.Disconnect |
| 18:05.41 | kerio | luf: also, why are you telling bluetoothd to connect? |
| 18:05.46 | kerio | can't you connect from the source? |
| 18:05.59 | Pali | kerio, you need to load pulseaudio modules |
| 18:06.14 | Pali | but connection should work |
| 18:06.19 | kerio | i see |
| 18:06.22 | luf | kerio: it's special kind of connection as wrote Pali. |
| 18:06.26 | kerio | will the current BT UI help with the connection? |
| 18:06.27 | Pali | (after you enable source in config file) |
| 18:06.40 | Pali | kerio, no |
| 18:06.47 | kerio | yeah, yeah, i can connect to my headphones with the n900 but the headphones can also connect to the n900 |
| 18:06.50 | luf | Pali: You need to enable Sink in config. |
| 18:06.51 | Pali | currect bt ui does not support it |
| 18:07.05 | kerio | luf: it's already enabled, isn't it |
| 18:07.10 | kerio | in your bluez 4.99 |
| 18:07.23 | luf | kerio: in my bluez yes :D In stock no. |
| 18:07.33 | kerio | oh, so you don't even need to update bluez? |
| 18:07.41 | kerio | why tf did we update bluez, then? |
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| 18:08.44 | luf | kerio: just for fun :D |
| 18:09.21 | luf | kerio: I didn't test it. Maybe it's ok with stock bluez. |
| 18:12.25 | Pali | luf, where is binary of module-loopback? |
| 18:12.59 | luf | pali: in my notebook :D I'm going to upload it to the _you_know_who_ server. |
| 18:13.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: damn, you're faster than lightning with undoing spam on wiki ;-D |
| 18:13.14 | Pali | luf, ok |
| 18:13.25 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05 :D |
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| 18:15.27 | Pali | luf, can you upload unpacked elf binary too? |
| 18:16.14 | luf | pali: I can. pulse bt module and loopback module? |
| 18:16.30 | Pali | what you patched? |
| 18:16.46 | kerio | luf: what's the size increase with the new pulseaudio and the new modules? |
| 18:17.10 | luf | pali: pulse bt module to detect a2dp_source + add loopback module. |
| 18:17.25 | luf | kerio: I don't know ;) |
| 18:17.31 | Pali | ok, so upload that two modules |
| 18:17.40 | kerio | luf: of course you do |
| 18:17.49 | kerio | you have it installed |
| 18:18.25 | luf | dpkg -i doesn't show the difference ;) |
| 18:19.53 | luf | kerio: the module - 69820 Oct 10 20:19 module-loopback.so |
| 18:20.08 | kerio | hm :c |
| 18:20.11 | kerio | can it be optified? |
| 18:20.27 | kerio | or is it already in the optfs? |
| 18:20.28 | luf | pali: sorry two BT modules: one for discovery and one for device handling. |
| 18:20.47 | luf | kerio: trust me I don't know. I focused on another parts. |
| 18:20.55 | kerio | where is it |
| 18:21.05 | kerio | meh, we can symlink that |
| 18:21.08 | kerio | we have the technology |
| 18:21.34 | luf | /usr/lib/pulse-0.9.15/modules/ - as all pulse modules |
| 18:22.38 | kerio | i see |
| 18:22.46 | kerio | is that the only new file? |
| 18:23.02 | luf | kerio: yes. and 2 changes. |
| 18:23.24 | kerio | which changes? |
| 18:23.43 | luf | kerio: BTW I compiled it with NDEBUG disabled. so maybe it will be quite smaller ;) |
| 18:23.53 | kerio | i see |
| 18:24.16 | luf | kerio: bluetooth modules to discover and device handling: module-bluetooth-discover.so module-bluetooth-device.so |
| 18:24.26 | kerio | pulseaudio, the only OSS project where you have to enable nodebug instead of disabling debug |
| 18:25.45 | luf | pali: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/pulseaudio/modules/ |
| 18:28.09 | luf | kerio: BTW the NDEBUG is just for logging asserts. So the size will be nearly the same :D |
| 18:29.26 | luf | kerio: I also take a look at PAN and I see how to initialize ... but it's aborted with no visible reason :( |
| 18:29.51 | luf | kerio: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/$(pidof bluetoothd)/hci0 org.bluez.NetworkServer.Register string:nap string:lan |
| 18:32.00 | luf | kerio: to the maintain question: it's what I do right now ;) |
| 18:36.10 | Pali | luf, loading loopback module failing |
| 18:36.13 | Pali | E: module-loopback.c: No such source. |
| 18:36.34 | Pali | pactl list | grep -i bluez --> this is empty |
| 18:36.34 | luf | I have no clue how it's registered in pulseaudio ... |
| 18:36.49 | luf | pactl list | grep blue |
| 18:36.52 | luf | No bluez there. |
| 18:36.58 | Pali | so maybe I need to manually load module for bluetooth |
| 18:37.15 | luf | Just for discovery. |
| 18:37.37 | luf | But it should be already done with /etc/pulse/default.pa |
| 18:38.23 | luf | pali: what source for loopback do you use? |
| 18:38.42 | luf | I'm sorry I red your info wrong. |
| 18:38.55 | Pali | luf, problem is that bluetooth module was not loaded |
| 18:39.06 | Pali | so I do not have bluez_source |
| 18:39.12 | Pali | I'm trying to load it manually |
| 18:39.57 | luf | ### Automatically load driver modules for Bluetooth hardware |
| 18:39.57 | luf | load-module module-bluetooth-discover sco_sink=sink.hw1 sco_source=source.hw1 |
| 18:41.26 | luf | pali: there is one change (remove Nokia patch) from src/modules/bluetooth/bluetooth-util.c |
| 18:43.01 | luf | But it's just changing state to disconnected. It shouldn't affect you. |
| 18:43.40 | Pali | E: module-bluetooth-device.c: Received error condition: Input/output error |
| 18:44.13 | Pali | (when I tried to pactl load-module module-bluetooth-device with address and path arg) |
| 18:45.03 | luf | Strange I compiled it againist bluez-4.60 (stock). |
| 18:46.46 | luf | Pali: have you restarted pulseaudio daemon? |
| 18:46.56 | Pali | yes |
| 18:47.02 | Pali | I starting it in console |
| 18:47.05 | Pali | to see log output |
| 18:49.48 | luf | I uploaded non-striped modules. |
| 18:50.57 | Pali | I restarted again |
| 18:51.06 | Pali | and now I cannot connect (dbus-send) |
| 18:51.19 | Pali | so problem is in bluetooth connection, not in pulse... |
| 18:51.51 | luf | What is the second BT side? |
| 18:52.06 | Pali | notebook |
| 18:52.12 | luf | I has problem with bluez-4.66 ... but no problem with bluez-4.98 |
| 18:52.43 | luf | But another problem (it get sink instead of source with bluez-4.66). |
| 18:52.54 | Pali | I have 4.98 on notebook |
| 18:52.57 | luf | BTW maybe you need to repair. |
| 18:53.14 | luf | BT re-pair the devices |
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| 18:53.43 | luf | The second think is I tested it with bluez-4.99 :) I'm going to test it n bluez-4.99 |
| 18:53.59 | luf | *4.60 (the last) |
| 18:54.08 | Pali | on notebook in syslog I see: Operation already in progress (114) |
| 18:55.49 | Pali | I restarted bluetooth on notebook and now dbus connected |
| 18:57.15 | Pali | and now on n900 pactl load-module module-bluetooth-device failing with E: module-bluetooth-device.c: Received error condition: Input/output error |
| 18:58.30 | Pali | and module-bluetooth-discover seems not working |
| 18:58.45 | Pali | it not loading module-bluetooth-device automatically |
| 18:58.48 | kerio | Pali: do you have bluez 4.99 installed? |
| 18:59.11 | Pali | kerio, no I have 4.98 on notebook |
| 18:59.20 | kerio | i meant on the n900 |
| 18:59.21 | luf | kerio: no please ... |
| 18:59.43 | Pali | and on n900 4.60-0maemo1.6+0m5 |
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| 19:01.55 | kerio | luf: k :c |
| 19:03.33 | luf | pali: How you changed bluetooth config? |
| 19:03.43 | luf | Method "Connect" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.AudioSource" doesn't exist |
| 19:03.56 | Pali | Enable=Control,Source,HandsfreeGateway,Headset,Sink,AudioSink,AudioSource,HeadsetGateway,Gateway,Socket |
| 19:04.12 | Pali | MaxConnected=10 |
| 19:05.13 | Pali | luf, when I called org.bluez.AudioSource.Connect (for connecting headset to n900), pulseaudio handled it and loaded module module-bluetooth-device) |
| 19:06.15 | Pali | but it only created bluez_sink.CC_52_AF_7C_6C_7B |
| 19:07.01 | luf | That's the problem I have with bluez-4.99 (N900) and bluez-4.66 (notebook). |
| 19:07.46 | luf | It seems like some incompatibility with bluez :( I'll have to trace it down ... |
| 19:11.26 | Pali | when I call org.bluez.AudioSource.Connect from n900 (and connection is established), bluez does not see anything... |
| 19:19.49 | luf | I can connect but discover doesn't recognize the source. |
| 19:21.36 | Pali | same |
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| 19:22.02 | Pali | luf, maybe something is needed to enable source in discover |
| 19:22.20 | luf | It works with bluez-4.99 on N900. |
| 19:23.39 | luf | BTW it even doesn't recognize profiles on notebook (bluez-4.66) :D |
| 19:26.59 | luf | pali: it helps when I reinstall all pulse from the merlin1991.at |
| 19:27.12 | luf | No sound but bt detected. |
| 19:27.25 | luf | Don't ask me why. |
| 19:27.58 | Pali | all pulseadio packages? |
| 19:28.11 | luf | dpkg -l | grep pulse |
| 19:28.19 | luf | But you can try to be more conservative. |
| 19:28.24 | Pali | ok |
| 19:28.34 | luf | I didn't test it one by one. |
| 19:30.03 | luf | sink.hw0: Volume: 0: 0% 1: 0% |
| 19:34.32 | luf | Hmmm, but no sound. |
| 19:35.14 | luf | Fuck it works! |
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| 19:36.03 | luf | Just now the computer play too silent sounds :D |
| 19:36.11 | luf | pali it works and is ok. |
| 19:36.37 | Pali | now I'm installing new packages |
| 19:36.59 | Pali | ah, I need to wait, upstart message: start: pulseaudio respawning too fast, stopped |
| 19:37.10 | Pali | so I cannot start pulseaudio now |
| 19:37.19 | luf | :) stop it and run from terminal. |
| 19:37.39 | luf | have you changes some pulseaudio settings? |
| 19:37.48 | luf | *changed |
| 19:39.15 | luf | kerio: ping |
| 19:39.20 | Pali | pulseaudio not |
| 19:39.24 | Pali | only bluez |
| 19:39.26 | kerio | luf: bwoooooooooooooooooong |
| 19:39.35 | luf | /usr/bin/pulseaudio --dump-resample-methods |
| 19:39.38 | luf | as root. |
| 19:39.46 | luf | kerio: ^^ |
| 19:40.28 | luf | I have trivial, speex-flox-<num>, speex-fixed-<num>, ffmpeg, auto, copy, peaks |
| 19:40.28 | kerio | luf: |
| 19:40.29 | kerio | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1271828/ |
| 19:40.33 | kerio | yep |
| 19:41.00 | luf | kerio: Good it's same. Thanks. I hope you have still stock pulseaudio |
| 19:41.22 | kerio | 0.9.15-1maemo43+0m5 |
| 19:41.23 | kerio | yep |
| 19:41.25 | Pali | now org.bluez.AudioSource.Connect again failing... |
| 19:42.08 | luf | I had no problem with it (againist bluez-4.98). |
| 19:42.26 | luf | What error message? |
| 19:42.54 | Pali | I restarted bluez daemon on notebook and now connected :-) |
| 19:43.04 | luf | :D |
| 19:43.18 | luf | And? and? and? :D |
| 19:43.25 | Pali | and bluez_source appeared :-) |
| 19:43.37 | luf | Good, 1. step :) |
| 19:43.48 | luf | So can you fly? :D |
| 19:44.54 | Pali | working :-) |
| 19:45.15 | Pali | sound from n900 :-) |
| 19:45.18 | Pali | nice |
| 19:45.47 | Pali | now going to connect bluetooth headset to n900 |
| 19:47.33 | Pali | luf, I connected bluetooth headset, but sound from computer is in n900 speakers |
| 19:47.38 | Pali | not in connected headset |
| 19:48.21 | luf | So you have to find the right sink. |
| 19:48.34 | Pali | I connected headset via GUI |
| 19:48.41 | Pali | but sound going to speakers |
| 19:48.44 | luf | pactl list ;) |
| 19:48.52 | kerio | luf: it should be automatic! >:C |
| 19:49.07 | Pali | this sounds like policy/prolog/alsaped problem |
| 19:49.14 | Pali | which route it |
| 19:49.15 | luf | kerio: is here some troll? :D |
| 19:49.22 | kerio | no |
| 19:49.36 | kerio | can't you just make it do what normal programs do? |
| 19:49.37 | luf | Pali: I didn't play with policy ... |
| 19:49.53 | luf | kerio: feel free to overtake it ;) |
| 19:50.05 | kerio | isn't there a "default sink" or something |
| 19:50.41 | luf | kerio: to be honest I hope someone help me. |
| 19:50.56 | luf | And for sure I didn't test the setup which pali have. |
| 19:51.42 | luf | pali: Thank you for testing. I'll write the wiki and post to TMO. |
| 19:52.04 | luf | I have to leave right now. |
| 19:52.54 | Pali | ok, thanks! |
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| 19:58.25 | Pali | luf, I restarted alsaped and sound is in bluetooth headset |
| 20:01.33 | Pali | luf, and there is one (small) problem. When I active silent profile there sound from notebook is muted |
| 20:12.03 | luf | pali: creating of combined can be put into the /etc/pulse/default.pa |
| 20:12.19 | luf | I don't know if it helps againist restarting alsaped. |
| 20:12.22 | Pali | luf, why is needed to create combined? |
| 20:12.36 | luf | Let's try without it. |
| 20:13.20 | luf | I don't understand it fully but it seems like resampler problem when BT gives you rate 44100 and the N900 sinks are at 48000. |
| 20:14.13 | luf | I don't know why N900 is set to rate 48000 and I'm not so brave to change it in default.pa to 44100. |
| 20:15.10 | Pali | ok |
| 20:15.39 | Pali | then you can add combined to default.pa (maybe in source tree) |
| 20:15.51 | luf | Pali: to be honest combined is the only way I hear clear sound. I checked loopback several times ale try to use different rate for sink and source in loopback. |
| 20:15.54 | Pali | so after package will be upgraded, default.pa will be changed |
| 20:16.14 | luf | Pali: yes, it's possible. |
| 20:16.23 | Pali | luf, do you have git repository? |
| 20:16.41 | Pali | there is pulseaudio in gitorious maemo-multimedia project |
| 20:16.47 | luf | Pali: no. |
| 20:16.51 | luf | it's meego one. |
| 20:17.12 | Pali | maybe there is maemo5 branch |
| 20:17.22 | Pali | or commit which is maemo5 version |
| 20:17.42 | luf | I'll take a look tomorrow. |
| 20:17.56 | Pali | s/commit/commit without tag/ |
| 20:18.05 | Pali | ok |
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