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| 21:42.45 | merlin1991 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1226908&postcount=744 |
| 21:42.47 | merlin1991 | :/ |
| 21:45.48 | tadzik | can't say I can reproduce :) I sometimes have my N900 running 4 days or so |
| 21:47.50 | merlin1991 | my bet is on sgx recovery or how it's called, thus a reboot to fix it all |
| 21:49.37 | tadzik | but, I'm getting more and more annoyed by the HAM autoupdate "feature" |
| 21:49.45 | tadzik | seems not to listen to gconf settings |
| 21:50.14 | tadzik | "Oh hai, I'll just eat all your bandwidth and waste some precious megabytes you paid for yesterday" |
| 21:50.30 | tadzik | whoever thought it's a good idea deserves a slow and painful death |
| 21:51.10 | merlin1991 | tadzik: there's a gconf key for that |
| 21:51.15 | merlin1991 | it *should* work |
| 21:51.30 | merlin1991 | at least I remember Pali/freemangordon fixing a buffer overflow regarding that setting |
| 21:51.47 | tadzik | yeah, I think I've set it a few times already, to be sure |
| 21:51.53 | tadzik | I'll probably set it once again, to be sure again |
| 21:52.54 | merlin1991 | ah dang that fix isn#t in the wild yet |
| 21:52.57 | Raimu | :| |
| 21:53.09 | tadzik | eek |
| 21:53.13 | merlin1991 | because 2 commits later Pali broke dependency handling :D |
| 21:54.51 | merlin1991 | tadzik: it's in seconds, so set it to something like 2 days :D |
| 21:55.05 | tadzik | 2 days is way too annoying for me |
| 21:55.09 | tadzik | 2 years should be fine :) |
| 21:55.55 | merlin1991 | hm what's the number for 2 years? |
| 21:56.15 | tadzik | merlin1991: oh, also, turns out I'd need to hack the autocompletor after all, for the "complete the whole sentences" idea |
| 21:56.35 | tadzik | for now it stops suggesting words when you press "space" |
| 21:56.49 | merlin1991 | dang |
| 21:56.54 | tadzik | fun |
| 21:57.07 | tadzik | so I will need to set up this scratchbox magic after all :) |
| 21:57.46 | merlin1991 | tadzik: 1 year is close to the overflow already |
| 21:57.54 | tadzik | :\ |
| 21:57.55 | Raimu | 2 years = 63 113 851.9 seconds :D |
| 21:58.02 | tadzik | that's probably why my "4 years" didn't work |
| 21:58.02 | merlin1991 | 35791394 is the max |
| 21:58.07 | Raimu | Courtesy of Google. |
| 21:58.16 | merlin1991 | and if you hit it it just decided it always has to update |
| 21:58.21 | merlin1991 | 31536000 |
| 21:58.24 | merlin1991 | one year |
| 21:58.28 | merlin1991 | you should be fine with that :D |
| 21:58.51 | tadzik | yeah, should be good :) |
| 22:02.52 | tadzik | 525600 is said to be one year |
| 22:02.55 | tadzik | (the time's in minutes) |
| 22:03.10 | merlin1991 | am I failing on the calculator? |
| 22:03.34 | merlin1991 | hm I calculated seconds in |
| 22:03.34 | tadzik | no eye deer |
| 22:04.18 | merlin1991 | and now I'm not even sure if it's minutes or seconds |
| 22:04.34 | Raimu | 1 year is 525948.8 minutes. |
| 22:05.26 | merlin1991 | hm that brings you nowhere close to the max, seconds it is then |
| 22:05.50 | Estel_ | hey, I'm using CSSU-tets and old settings uggested on wiki |
| 22:05.52 | merlin1991 | which actually makes way more sense, since the good old time() function returns seconds since whatever the startingpoint is |
| 22:05.57 | Estel_ | being something like 400 years (i don't remember) |
| 22:06.03 | Estel_ | and I'm fine, no update notifications |
| 22:06.05 | Estel_ | WTF? |
| 22:06.13 | tadzik | tries apt-woodchuck |
| 22:06.17 | merlin1991 | dpkg -l mp-fremantle-community-pr |
| 22:06.21 | merlin1991 | and tell me the output |
| 22:06.31 | merlin1991 | also easy on whatever you're drinking ;) |
| 22:07.07 | Estel_ | hey, i did only one typo :P |
| 22:07.14 | Estel_ | 2147483646 |
| 22:07.19 | Estel_ | It's what I've set |
| 22:07.28 | merlin1991 | CSSU-tets uggested ? |
| 22:07.50 | Estel_ | :P |
| 22:07.51 | merlin1991 | but now I understand that you didn't put that as a question |
| 22:07.56 | merlin1991 | rereading is helpfull :D |
| 22:08.04 | merlin1991 | or rather not jumping to conclusions |
| 22:08.34 | Estel_ | mp-fremantle-c 21.2011.38-1Tm |
| 22:08.53 | Estel_ | on this device |
| 22:09.02 | Estel_ | and 2147483646 is working fine |
| 22:09.14 | Estel_ | in old times, 2147483647 was max, so I just did 1 less |
| 22:09.19 | merlin1991 | okay apt-cache policy ... if you're interested in the version then, since the juciy part after Tmaemo is missing ;) |
| 22:09.51 | merlin1991 | s/juciy/jucy/ |
| 22:09.55 | Estel_ | Tmaemo4 |
| 22:10.05 | merlin1991 | *bleeding edge* :D |
| 22:10.24 | Estel_ | I though CSSU-thumb is bleeding edge |
| 22:10.35 | Estel_ | and that CSSU-Testing is stable |
| 22:10.36 | tadzik | I thought that's like gore-edge |
| 22:10.45 | Estel_ | and that CSSU-Stable is legacy |
| 22:10.49 | tadzik | isn't there also cssu-devel or so? |
| 22:10.50 | merlin1991 | rofls |
| 22:10.57 | Estel_ | CSSu-devel is used only by maintainers, lol |
| 22:11.03 | merlin1991 | tadzik: cssu-devel is about the same as -thumb |
| 22:11.05 | merlin1991 | only not thumb :D |
| 22:11.09 | tadzik | heh |
| 22:11.22 | Estel_ | rumors are, that we're going to ahve CSSU-kernel stable |
| 22:11.25 | Estel_ | cssu-kernel testing |
| 22:11.28 | Estel_ | cssu-kernel-devel |
| 22:11.33 | Estel_ | in addition to today non-kernewl variants |
| 22:11.40 | merlin1991 | nope.jpg |
| 22:11.40 | Estel_ | and multiply it all by 3, due to thumb |
| 22:11.46 | Estel_ | i know, I'm joking |
| 22:11.49 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 22:11.53 | Estel_ | but it looks like going for 18 version of CSSU |
| 22:11.57 | Estel_ | every used by 5 people |
| 22:12.12 | merlin1991 | but yeah I should call in a meeting again to assess the stability of Tmaemo4 |
| 22:12.17 | Estel_ | it's still beoynd me why cssu-thumb doesn't become -devel |
| 22:12.28 | merlin1991 | quite some stuff there I'd like to see in -stable |
| 22:12.29 | Estel_ | nods |
| 22:12.52 | Estel_ | I would like some "people" that don't use KP to stop obstructing CSSU-kernel becoming mainline ;) |
| 22:12.59 | Estel_ | whole 1 of "them" |
| 22:13.14 | merlin1991 | Estel_: I'm on stock aswell ;) |
| 22:13.25 | Estel_ | just out of curiosity, why? |
| 22:13.38 | merlin1991 | it works xD |
| 22:13.54 | tadzik | but... but network through usb! |
| 22:13.55 | Estel_ | You don't care about batter (fixed SR) and modules for hostmode? |
| 22:14.20 | merlin1991 | I have 4 n900s but only used hostmode once :D |
| 22:14.27 | Estel_ | i.e. one of main CSSU developers is using phone as phone? unebliveable :P |
| 22:14.37 | tadzik | is that even a "phone"? |
| 22:14.38 | tadzik | :) |
| 22:14.47 | Estel_ | heh, i'm jutadzik, of cours eit isn't |
| 22:14.57 | Estel_ | s/cours eit/course it/ |
| 22:15.04 | merlin1991 | Estel_: uh sry, my *phone* is a n9 |
| 22:15.04 | tadzik | oh, Estel_, you're the hardware guy |
| 22:15.07 | Estel_ | oh god |
| 22:15.18 | Estel_ | It was joke again |
| 22:15.18 | merlin1991 | but the n9 works great as a phone |
| 22:15.21 | Estel_ | Yea |
| 22:15.22 | tadzik | I observed this effect recently, when I slide the keyboard (in or out), the screen blinks |
| 22:15.30 | Estel_ | it's a pity that the phone is wasting 1GB of Ram :/ |
| 22:15.36 | tadzik | as if it detected closing/opening wrongly |
| 22:15.37 | Estel_ | selfish one, could give some to N900 |
| 22:15.44 | tadzik | ever seen anything like this? |
| 22:15.46 | Estel_ | tadzik, possible |
| 22:15.55 | merlin1991 | especially since it was for quite some time my only device with an 100% in tact modem stack :D |
| 22:15.57 | Estel_ | but I would say that it's flex cable |
| 22:16.06 | tadzik | harmful? I have rebooted it once when the screen went a bit more white and stayed that way |
| 22:16.23 | Estel_ | erm, i suspect that ambient light sensor just detected more light :D |
| 22:16.33 | Estel_ | tadzik, shouldn't be, but You can't tell for sure |
| 22:16.34 | tadzik | no, I don't mean brighter |
| 22:16.36 | merlin1991 | blergh, I just noticed that I slightly fucked up the stable changelog layout |
| 22:16.38 | tadzik | I mean, More White :) |
| 22:16.44 | Estel_ | tadzik 0_o |
| 22:16.46 | tadzik | :) |
| 22:16.48 | Estel_ | never seen anything like that |
| 22:16.54 | merlin1991 | compare http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#T-maemo4 to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo3_.2830.03.2012.29 |
| 22:16.55 | tadzik | well, reboot did fix that |
| 22:17.07 | Estel_ | ah, i though it "stayed that way" = for good |
| 22:17.09 | merlin1991 | the headers on the stable page practically kill your eyes |
| 22:17.21 | tadzik | anyway, one day I'll just disassemble this thing just to see what the hell's inside |
| 22:17.26 | Estel_ | merlin1991, yes. |
| 22:17.35 | Estel_ | tadzik, dissasembling is easy as a cake, seriously |
| 22:17.40 | tadzik | I fixed a thinkpad with a duct tape, N900 should be similar |
| 22:17.40 | Estel_ | there is 1, literally 1 tricky part |
| 22:17.54 | Estel_ | assembling it again, but not whole - only connecting flex cable back |
| 22:18.10 | tadzik | I could also look at the funny microphone then |
| 22:18.11 | Estel_ | I've mastered it :p but atg beginning, it took me 10 minutes or so, to connect this single cable |
| 22:18.18 | tadzik | :) |
| 22:18.19 | Estel_ | what's funny about micro? |
| 22:18.32 | tadzik | people complain about hardly hearing me sometimes |
| 22:18.36 | merlin1991 | hm I had 2 n900 on my desk that have been turned on since 5 days since I forgot about them |
| 22:18.41 | Estel_ | dirt inside? |
| 22:18.44 | tadzik | and sometimes it "warms up" after a few seconds and then it's fine |
| 22:18.46 | tadzik | possibly |
| 22:18.49 | merlin1991 | and on both bme still reports 50% charge, wtf |
| 22:18.58 | tadzik | Estel_: can I safely insert a needle into it? :) |
| 22:19.08 | Estel_ | merlin1991, at first I've red it as "since 5 years" |
| 22:19.22 | Estel_ | tadzik, I wouldn't do it, You'll be better with dissasembling :p |
| 22:19.27 | tadzik | :) |
| 22:19.45 | tadzik | I also wonder if there isn't any kernel-ish option for "primitively boost the motherf*&@" |
| 22:19.48 | Estel_ | currently, I'm thinking about replacing my 165 mA battery from bh-214, to 1000 mAh or something like that |
| 22:20.04 | tadzik | Estel_: where in Poland are you? |
| 22:20.19 | Estel_ | PoznaĆ, currently, but I fluctuate between it and Warsav/Piaseczno |
| 22:20.25 | tadzik | I see |
| 22:20.45 | tadzik | if you ever find yourself in Warsaw feeling like a beer or ten, drop me a note :) |
| 22:21.03 | Estel_ | merlin1991, have You seen my report about gdizzz report about CSSu update (this or some before) doing sometihng with tracker? |
| 22:21.05 | Estel_ | was it the case? |
| 22:21.12 | Estel_ | I just noticed I got hit by the bug too |
| 22:21.24 | Estel_ | my .ogg and flac's aren't considered by tracker anymore |
| 22:21.43 | Estel_ | ... which resulte din being able to play only 15 music files, out of my 10 Gb music :p |
| 22:22.16 | merlin1991 | hm our tracker update shouldn't affec anything of that |
| 22:22.41 | merlin1991 | though it's possible that since the update yields in an uninstall - new version cycle it forgets about additional media extractors |
| 22:22.44 | tadzik | Estel_: oh, btw, this silly chinese-y sticker covering the screw was the warranty seal by any chance? |
| 22:23.26 | merlin1991 | Estel_: try to apt-get install --reinstall the package in question |
| 22:23.57 | merlin1991 | and I'll add it to my buglist to check it out |
| 22:25.12 | merlin1991 | hm a white shirt and a suddenly bleeding nose don't go too well together |
| 22:25.29 | Estel_ | merlin1991, all right |
| 22:25.30 | Estel_ | BTW |
| 22:26.26 | merlin1991 | ... |
| 22:26.59 | Estel_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220867&postcount=1019 |
| 22:27.09 | Estel_ | ^^^ merlin1991 |
| 22:27.42 | merlin1991 | I guess he's right |
| 22:28.06 | merlin1991 | ogg-support calls some dbus methods to add itself to tracker, possibly that backend that is used there gets reset on tracker upgrade |
| 22:30.31 | merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: ping |
| 22:32.21 | Estel_ | same for flac and other formats, probably |
| 22:32.34 | merlin1991 | possibly all formats that are not supported by stock |
| 22:34.29 | Estel_ | :D |
| 22:34.44 | Estel_ | so, solution for now is to wait for update, or some duct tape fix possible? |
| 22:40.37 | merlin1991 | Estel_: tell me what you have in /usr/share/mime/packages/ |
| 22:41.14 | Estel_ | lotta hell of files |
| 22:41.31 | Estel_ | including 00_ogg-support.xml |
| 22:41.42 | Estel_ | and 01_decoder-support.xml |
| 22:42.03 | Estel_ | lotta hell of files comes form dbus-switcher, probably |
| 22:42.18 | Estel_ | other than that and files I've mentioned: |
| 22:42.30 | Estel_ | as-daemon.xml |
| 22:42.35 | Estel_ | calendar.xml |
| 22:42.36 | merlin1991 | k |
| 22:42.43 | Estel_ | and some other |
| 22:42.51 | merlin1991 | was just checking if 00_ogg... is there :D |
| 22:42.56 | Estel_ | ;) |
| 22:44.34 | merlin1991 | why is there no easy to find tool to check the tracker mime database :/ |
| 22:53.42 | merlin1991 | Estel_: /usr/bin/tracker-register-mimetype -c Music -a audio/x-vorbis+ogg -a audio/x-flac+ogg -a audio/x-flac -a application/ogg -a audio/ogg |
| 22:53.43 | merlin1991 | /usr/bin/tracker-register-mimetype -c Videos -a video/x-theora+ogg -a video/ogg |
| 22:53.47 | merlin1991 | should duct tape it togehter |
| 22:54.08 | Estel_ | aye, as i suppose, it will get overwritten by update anyway, so no need to peel tape off before doing so? |
| 22:54.43 | Estel_ | I mean, no need to revert before updating CSSU one day, yep? |
| 22:54.51 | Estel_ | thanks a lolt |
| 22:54.58 | merlin1991 | yep no need :D |
| 23:00.03 | Estel_ | merlin1991, how to force tracker to rebuild database? Maybe You remember it? |
| 23:01.51 | merlin1991 | knew it once, can't recall atm |
| 23:02.04 | merlin1991 | tracker-processes -r |
| 23:02.06 | ShadowJK | tracker-processes -r |
| 23:02.22 | merlin1991 | and I just nuked my db by testing this |
| 23:02.22 | merlin1991 | cpu is running hot :D |
| 23:02.57 | merlin1991 | but you have to run it as user |
| 23:03.00 | merlin1991 | phew |
| 23:03.04 | merlin1991 | almost killed my db :D |
| 23:04.38 | Estel_ | ShadowJK, merlin1991, thanks |
| 23:04.40 | merlin1991 | I'll have to dive into tracker source to dump that db, dang |
| 23:04.47 | Estel_ | I wonder what exactly mean "low memory mode" for tracker |
| 23:04.51 | Estel_ | in it's config |
| 23:05.01 | merlin1991 | I might come acroos that :D |
| 23:05.11 | merlin1991 | all the tracker-* tools have not a single helpfull documented option |
| 23:05.29 | merlin1991 | but for example tracker-processes doesn#t have the -r flag documented either |
| 23:05.32 | Estel_ | would be good. ShadowJK, maybe You know what this settings mean, technically? Of course, in addition to using lower ammount of memory? |
| 23:05.41 | Estel_ | lol |
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