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| 07:00.24 | kerio | freemangordon: :( :( :( |
| 07:11.20 | bencoh | kerio: meh |
| 07:11.28 | kerio | fmg lies |
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| 08:24.34 | sixwheeledbeast | ~fmg |
| 08:24.34 | infobot | it has been said that fmg is the greatest |
| 08:24.40 | kerio | yeah but |
| 08:24.40 | sixwheeledbeast | ;) |
| 08:24.41 | kerio | he lies |
| 08:32.47 | bencoh | kerio: meh. :) |
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| 09:42.14 | kerio | he won't even answer :c |
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| 10:24.05 | kerio | freemangordon: ping |
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| 11:24.51 | freemangordon | kerio: pong |
| 11:24.57 | kerio | hai |
| 11:25.44 | freemangordon | kerio: going to compile ssh and put it in the repo |
| 11:25.47 | kerio | ^_^ |
| 11:25.48 | kerio | which ssh |
| 11:25.58 | freemangordon | zf |
| 11:26.02 | freemangordon | openssl |
| 11:26.16 | kerio | that's not ssh |
| 11:26.32 | freemangordon | well, that's what I will do |
| 11:26.41 | freemangordon | what ssh do you mean? |
| 11:26.46 | kerio | i mean ssh |
| 11:26.49 | kerio | as in openssh |
| 11:26.55 | freemangordon | and why do you need thumb-compiled openss? |
| 11:26.59 | freemangordon | *openssh |
| 11:27.05 | kerio | as an excuse to also get an updated version of it |
| 11:27.22 | kerio | at least 6.5, so there's curve25519 kex and ed25519 keys |
| 11:27.28 | freemangordon | seems I miss something, could you elaborate? |
| 11:27.30 | kerio | and chacha20/poly1305 ciphers |
| 11:27.39 | freemangordon | is it in the repos? |
| 11:27.40 | kerio | freemangordon: it takes like 2 seconds for me to login to my n900 |
| 11:27.53 | freemangordon | so? |
| 11:28.09 | kerio | both curve25519 and chacha20/poly1305 are high-security and high-speed |
| 11:28.27 | kerio | so it would be neat to have fast crypto |
| 11:28.35 | kerio | on a low-powered device like the n900 |
| 11:28.47 | freemangordon | ok, but I still don;t get it why it is me to upgrade it. |
| 11:28.54 | freemangordon | who's the maintainer? |
| 11:29.24 | freemangordon | kerio: also, afaik the crypto is done in openssl |
| 11:29.32 | freemangordon | ssh just uses it |
| 11:29.45 | kerio | not for ed25519/chacha20-poly1305 |
| 11:29.53 | kerio | that's builtin |
| 11:30.03 | freemangordon | ok. however, did you try to contact the maintainer? |
| 11:30.30 | kerio | but it's in fremantle sdk tools |
| 11:30.55 | kerio | ok nvm it's also in extras-* |
| 11:31.20 | freemangordon | yep |
| 11:31.47 | freemangordon | feel free to become maintainer and put the upgraded version in extras-devel |
| 11:31.49 | freemangordon | :) |
| 11:32.07 | kerio | you know i've never been able to get the sdk to do anything |
| 11:32.15 | kerio | and now half of the repos are fucking gone |
| 11:32.32 | freemangordon | kerio: all you need is there, SDK wise |
| 11:32.43 | kerio | how the hell do i figure out how quick a cpu is |
| 11:32.52 | freemangordon | what? |
| 11:33.06 | freemangordon | kerio: I can help you setting up the SDK |
| 11:33.07 | kerio | well, /proc/cpuinfo on my sheevaplug doesn't show the clock speed |
| 11:33.20 | freemangordon | sorry, how's that related? |
| 11:33.43 | kerio | unrelated, but i wanted to figure out how much of a speedup we could expect |
| 11:34.46 | kerio | i can login in 0.3 seconds via ssh |
| 11:35.33 | kerio | freemangordon: alright, i have the SDK VM |
| 11:35.47 | kerio | do i upgrade the ubuntu in it |
| 11:35.59 | freemangordon | do you need to? |
| 11:36.33 | freemangordon | BTW, you can setup SB in your native OS |
| 11:36.41 | kerio | i strongly doubt it |
| 11:36.42 | freemangordon | no need for VM |
| 11:36.53 | freemangordon | I have SB here on ubuntu 14.04 |
| 11:37.04 | freemangordon | 64bit |
| 11:37.23 | kerio | i commend you for your efforts |
| 11:37.31 | kerio | but setting up scratchbox on os x might be a bit too hard for me |
| 11:37.36 | freemangordon | oh |
| 11:37.46 | freemangordon | yeah, fruit guy |
| 11:38.15 | freemangordon | anyway, do not upgrade ubuntu in SDK |
| 11:38.36 | freemangordon | it may break SB |
| 11:39.38 | kerio | i'm not changing ubuntu version |
| 11:40.05 | freemangordon | ok, you can install updates |
| 11:40.16 | freemangordon | if that was your question |
| 11:41.02 | kerio | what do i replace scratchbox.org with |
| 11:41.44 | freemangordon | ~sb |
| 11:41.44 | infobot | i guess scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 11:41.52 | kerio | no, the repo |
| 11:42.10 | freemangordon | I know |
| 11:42.37 | kerio | ok, what can i reasonably expect to compile? |
| 11:42.39 | freemangordon | kerio: but isn;t it alive? |
| 11:42.41 | freemangordon | http://www.scratchbox.org/debian/dists/fremantle/ |
| 11:42.46 | kerio | yeah it looks like it |
| 11:43.07 | Pali | do you know if there is any ssh-askpass for Maemo? |
| 11:43.26 | Pali | (needed if you add ssh key to ssh-agent with -c confirm option) |
| 11:43.27 | freemangordon | kerio: everything I know of still compiles |
| 11:43.33 | freemangordon | Pali: no idea |
| 11:43.37 | kerio | no, i meant for updated packages |
| 11:43.40 | kerio | Pali! |
| 11:43.44 | kerio | compile me an openssh 6.8 pls |
| 11:44.03 | Pali | so I need to write first maemo-ssh-askpass? :-) |
| 11:44.05 | kerio | isn't fremantle about the same as debian etch |
| 11:44.33 | kerio | Pali: well, the askpass dialog could be kinda simple to pull off |
| 11:44.37 | freemangordon | kerio: dammit, just dpkg-source -x the damn source package and compile it |
| 11:44.43 | Pali | kerio: turn on VM and compile it :-) |
| 11:45.13 | kerio | it's literally just a script that displays a message and exits with 0 or 1, iirc |
| 11:45.21 | kerio | it's not actually askpass |
| 11:45.29 | kerio | ssh-agent doesn't need the password |
| 11:46.41 | kerio | Pali: 2:40 remaining for the ubuntu updates |
| 11:46.51 | Pali | yes, but for some reasons it is called ssh-askpass |
| 11:47.18 | kerio | will it even call ssh-askpass if it exists? i thought you had to put SSH_ASKPASS in the ssh-agent's environment |
| 11:47.25 | kerio | and specify a program |
| 11:48.39 | kerio | should i install cssu in scratchbox? |
| 11:48.50 | Pali | if SSH_ASKPASS is not specified then /usr/lib/ssh/ssh-askpass is used |
| 11:48.53 | freemangordon | if you aim for cssu |
| 11:49.00 | Pali | on debian systems /usr/bin/ssh-askpass is used (special debian patch) |
| 11:49.10 | kerio | i aim for my n900 .-. |
| 11:49.15 | freemangordon | kerio: you don;t really need it otherwise |
| 11:49.26 | kerio | i have no idea how to properly maintain a package anyway |
| 11:52.35 | Pali | kerio, no, ssh can ask ssh-askpass for password too |
| 11:52.39 | Pali | (or ssh-agent) |
| 11:52.49 | kerio | yeah but you're not going to use to get it to ask for the password |
| 11:52.50 | Pali | you can lock agent with password |
| 11:52.51 | kerio | are you |
| 11:53.26 | kerio | meh |
| 12:00.13 | kerio | ok |
| 12:00.16 | kerio | how do i scratch boxes |
| 12:02.54 | kerio | hrmpf, wheezy's openssh-server depends on libc6 2.13 |
| 12:03.43 | kerio | ok that's false, it's only 2.8 |
| 12:05.39 | bencoh | openssh most probably doesnt really depend on any specific libc version ;p |
| 12:07.50 | kerio | configure: WARNING: ****** Your snprintf() function is broken, complain to your vendor |
| 12:07.54 | kerio | i love the openbsd guys ^_^ |
| 12:08.27 | bencoh | haha |
| 12:08.31 | bencoh | riiight :) |
| 12:08.43 | kerio | hrmpf, OpenSSL version header not found. |
| 12:08.55 | kerio | libssl-dev is installed |
| 12:09.55 | Pali | wut? snprintf in glibc is broken?? |
| 12:10.15 | kerio | Pali: checking whether snprintf correctly terminates long strings... no |
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| 12:11.16 | Pali | can you give me example? |
| 12:11.30 | kerio | the openssh 6.8p1 configure script |
| 12:11.58 | kerio | oh i guess it depends on openssl 1 |
| 12:12.10 | Pali | https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2012-September/030714.html |
| 12:13.45 | kerio | oh my fucking gooooooooooooooooooood |
| 12:13.55 | kerio | it failed to check the size of short int |
| 12:14.09 | kerio | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) |
| 12:14.29 | kerio | some days i wish the n900 ran linux |
| 12:27.14 | kerio | alright which dmnc mirror are we supposed to use? |
| 12:44.51 | kerio | (i gave up, btw) |
| 13:19.55 | bencoh | whichever you want |
| 13:20.09 | bencoh | there are already 3 or 4 of them on tmo |
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| 15:18.30 | kerio | freemangordon: where's the thumby openssl? :( |
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