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15:06.43ivgalvezfreemangordon: There's no point in RE widgets/applets. They are final apps, so there shouldn't be other binaries depending on them.
15:07.09ivgalvezBesides, most of them are crap. Better to use replacements that provide similar functionality
15:07.36ivgalvezLike most of Nicolai's widgets already available.
15:55.59sixwheeledbeast1It's not just stock widgets that leak, extras widgets leak into hildon too.
15:57.46freemangordonivgalvez: some status menu pligins doesn't have replacements
15:57.50ivgalvezsixwheeledbeast1: But that should be fixed in a per-widget basis, shouldn't it?
15:57.58freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: any progress with certificates?
15:58.13sixwheeledbeastcertificates?
15:58.23freemangordonthe expired one?
15:59.04sixwheeledbeastI know about it as peter asked me. was going to mention it at the CC meeting later.
15:59.15ivgalvezfreemangordon: OK, it would be nice to have an easy way to uninstall all that default crap without breaking the whole metapackage
15:59.57sixwheeledbeastivgalvez: it's depends where the leak is.
16:00.15freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: I was talking about the one on device. that prevents the location sharing
16:00.27sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: oic :)
16:00.48sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: no I can't get my head around cmcli
16:01.20freemangordonivgalvez: we can;t uninstall everything just to prevent memory leaks and other bugs :)
16:02.17freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: if you point me to or make a short description of the problem I might take a look later
16:02.20ivgalvezfreemangordon: No, I know! I was just dreaming ...
16:03.01freemangordonivgalvez: the best we can do is: 1. Find the buggy onse. 2. RE them. 3. Fix them
16:03.27freemangordon2 now (with that leaked ARM hexrays) becomes feasible
16:03.31ivgalvezfreemangordon: So you have X-Rays on ARM.... congrats!
16:03.32sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: is this helpful enough? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93553
16:03.48freemangordonivgalvez: yeah, it is all over the inet :D
16:04.05ivgalvezdo you know if it works on ARM Cortex M3?
16:04.15freemangordonno idea, but it should
16:04.22ivgalvezThumb2 compliant
16:04.24freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: what IM account is that?
16:04.28ivgalvezyeah, probably
16:04.33ivgalvezI need to test that
16:04.40freemangordonivgalvez: should not matter
16:04.54sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: jabber
16:05.00sixwheeledbeastthe stock one
16:05.16freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: hmm, any other type of IM account I can use to test?
16:05.22freemangordonas I don;t have jabber
16:05.27freemangordongoogle talk?
16:05.56sixwheeledbeastwell I assume that any IM account will do that has a status message option.
16:06.30freemangordonsorry for the stupi question, but what is "status message option."?
16:06.35freemangordon*stupid
16:07.40freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: is location sharing enabled by default?
16:07.58sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: this is what is broken the status message, no not by default
16:08.12freemangordonhow to enable it?
16:08.25freemangordonoh, i see
16:08.38sixwheeledbeastIf you go to IM Accounts and select My availabilty there is an option to show your location in the status message
16:09.24sixwheeledbeastthis has broken as of 3-4 months ago I assume. I used it all the time.
16:10.06sixwheeledbeastFirst it broke due to certman A-GPS issue and now it is broken again.
16:10.38sixwheeledbeastthe status message should change to your location from the A-GPS data.
16:12.29freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: I enabled "street level", but I don't see any errors in syslog
16:12.58freemangordonhttp://pastebin.com/1uwgQeLb
16:13.03sixwheeledbeastBut you don't have anything in the status message, right?
16:13.10freemangordonyeah
16:14.01freemangordonnow I set "Just a test" as a status message
16:14.05freemangordonstill nothing
16:14.54sixwheeledbeastmanual status message works here.
16:15.22freemangordonI don;t see certificate errors in syslog
16:16.12freemangordonwhat I see is "just a test" under "Availability"
16:16.51freemangordonhmm:
16:16.54freemangordonSep  9 19:12:12 Nokia-N900 nm-nav-provider[29432]: GLIB WARNING ** default - Could not connect to http://loc.desktop.maps.svc.ovi.com/geocoder/rgc/1.0?total=1&lat=42.682501338422298&long=23.2853963971138&token=9b87b24dffafdfcb6dfc66eeba834caa
16:17.37freemangordonstrange thing is that I can open that address from mozilla
16:17.42sixwheeledbeastah so manual status message is correct. that maybe the issue
16:18.59sixwheeledbeastwith street level on you should have your address in the status message "@ Sofia, BULGARIA" for example
16:19.20freemangordonI see
16:19.57sixwheeledbeastso maybe it's not a cert issue?
16:20.19freemangordonseems like it is not
16:22.44freemangordonhmm I don;t see that "could not connect" error anymore, however, the status message is still "just a test"
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16:25.58sixwheeledbeastI normally leave the status message blank and the message should update your address as you move about. If you have a Coarse GPS fix it should be working.
16:28.25freemangordonhmm I saw that "could not connect" message again, when I took a picture with geotgging enabled
16:28.48freemangordonmaybe the protocol has changed
16:28.53freemangordonthough...
16:34.23sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: I can't believe I found this by searching for the geocoder token
16:34.26sixwheeledbeasthttp://www.mygnu.de/index.php/2012/09/fixing-location-awareness-of-n900-im/
16:35.05sixwheeledbeastI have definitely not had the issue that long.
16:37.35sixwheeledbeast~closed_packages
16:37.35infobotwell, closed_packages is https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages
16:37.42freemangordonI just made a packet capture :D
16:37.50Palibookmark that page, maybe include that fix into cssu somehow?
16:38.19freemangordonI am going to RE that
16:38.56freemangordonhowever, the info on that page is not correct, as I can happily open the link in FF
16:42.29sixwheeledbeastRE nm-nav-provider then we can hopefully locate the issue. \o/ pun intended :D I also have no issue with opening the XML link.
16:45.10freemangordonhmm, weird:
16:45.46freemangordonI have gateway timeout from the server
16:46.02freemangordonlemme check what is the user agent
16:47.49freemangordonno UA, but - "Referer: Maemo_SW"
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