IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20140905

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14:13.44Pali[16:07:43] <Pali> info about specific maemo kernel files: https://wiki.maemo.org/Porting/Kernel
14:13.51Palithis could be fixed in cssu userspace
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16:33.33freemangordonPali: give up on that patch already, lets simply fix osso-system-info and make all others use it :)
16:43.39Palifreemangordon: ok, but first I need to know what is correct place
16:43.46Paliwhere is stored board info
17:08.55freemangordonPali: sure. I'll try to find time tomorrow to hack osso-system-info to not use hardcoded paths but a config file
17:09.20Palianyway, there are more libs which using cpuinfo
17:09.34Palilook at that wiki page ^^^^^
17:11.03freemangordonyep, and all of them should be fixed to use osso-system-info
17:11.27freemangordonnow we have the same code spread all over the place
17:13.05Paliok, good point
17:15.09freemangordondo we have a list?
17:15.17freemangordonI know about mce and ke-recv
17:31.46Palido not know
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19:04.51cbeauAnyone here using CSSU-testing?
19:06.18cbeauthe N900 is my only phone right now so I can't have it go "weird". But I also would like to get CSSU-testing because changes are too slow to trickle into CSSU-stable (which I currently have)... any thoughts?
19:16.46kerioruns cssu-thumb+devel
19:20.44Sicelocbeau: i do
19:21.02Sicelozero complaints
19:23.37cbeauah, nice to know. And since I've already got CSSU-stable, can I just install CSSU-testing or would I need to flash the device to switch to testing?
19:24.09keriofirst, you make a full backup with backupmenu
19:24.24keriothen you just enable the cssu-testing repos and upgrade
19:24.44cbeauupgrade via HAM or apt-get upgrade ?
19:25.36SiceloHAM is recommended .. (although i used apt)
19:26.26cbeauah, alright. Thanks a lot! I'll maybe give it a try. I'm scared because this is my only phone and I really don't have time to spend fixing it if this goes badly
19:26.36keriowell
19:26.47keriodo you have COMBINED?
19:27.05kerioif you do, then if anything goes wrong it's just a matter of flashing combined, installing backupmenu and restoring the previously-made backup
19:27.12cbeauoh, not sure what COMBINED is so... i think not
19:27.21keriothe thing you flash
19:27.39kerio~pr131
19:27.39infobotmethinks combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
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19:28.39cbeauoh dear... getting scary... has anyone done the stable to testing switch flawlessly through HAM with no need to fix anything (e..g. flash)?
19:29.51Sicelocbeau: i did it via apt.. no fix needed. so HAM will be magnitudes safer
19:30.09cbeauah, feeling a little better. thanks!
19:30.42cbeaumy main motivation is that as soon as "wireless networking" gets "fixed" in testing (if ever) I'd wanna make sure I get that right away
19:30.54Sicelowhat?
19:30.55cbeauI haven't had wireless working at my office since ages ago...
19:31.23cbeauIt's not wireless altogether that I've got troubles with, just the MSCHAPv2 auth at my workplace that's not working. everything else is fine
19:31.54Sicelonot fixed. eapd is closed
19:32.10cbeauI can hack together manually using wpa-supplicant and get it to work, but the whole doig it manually business sucks
19:32.27cbeauwhat does "eapd is closed" mean?
19:32.32Siceloyes, and not battery-friendly
19:33.31Siceloclosed-source, i meant... so no one can fix it .. it is the supplicant in maemo
19:34.53Sicelocbeau:do you set the 'manual username' field for the wifi settings?
19:35.35cbeauoh, that's heart broken... no way it will ever get fixed then? :(
19:36.07cbeauyes, I do set the manual username, and with and without the domain attached, with @ or with \, i've tried all possible combinations of all the tricks ever reported to have worked for someone..
19:36.29Sicelook. i'm in the same boat
19:36.38cbeauwhat's sad is that it used to work, and then it didn't anymore, and I have no idea why (i.e. is it some package I installed that did this?)
19:36.57cbeauyeah, it's a very sad boat to be on. stupid authentication protocol
19:37.05Siceloyour admins broke it
19:37.53cbeauwell, they insist it's not them. And in fact they showed me the logs of the handshake and it's my phone that's messing up. that's clear. and the fact that it works with wpa-supplicant does suggest the problem's really at my end :(
19:38.23Sicelotbh, N900 is 'right' to not connect (as sad as it is). it won't connect when something is wrong with their certificate
19:39.04Siceloyour admins are at fault (same issue at my organization)
19:39.16cbeauah, really... because the IT people at my uni are pretty nice so if I could figure out what's wrong with what they do, Im sure they'd be happy to fix it... but that's a lot of work for me... not really time to do that
19:39.41Sicelowpa_supplicant connects because it can skip cert verification. eapd will not do that
19:40.16cbeaubut the certificate situation on N900 is a little weird: many can't be taken out, it's not always trivial to get new ones in manually...
19:40.37cbeaui keep wondering if my trouble is with the certificates or with the wireless protocol...
19:40.41Sicelothe problem cert is in the server :p
19:41.31cbeauin what sense... you mean that they've incorrectly setup their server cert for the wireless network or they've incorrectly set how the handshake and certificate exchange works?
19:42.08Sicelojust the certificate only that is problematic .. either it is missing some fields, or some other issue
19:42.56Siceloif you have time, setup a FreeRadius server of your own, and configure it for MSCHAPv2 .. it will connect just fine
19:43.24cbeau"it will connect" meaning the n900?
19:43.29Siceloyes
19:44.03cbeauah, so here's a question: if I get my hands on their certificate, is there some way for me to know what is "wrong" with it so I could communicate that back to them?
19:44.23Sicelomy N900 doesn't conect on my organization's mschapv2 wifi, but on my freeradius can connect
19:44.35Sicelounfortunately i can't help much there..
19:44.55cbeauah but you did, you suggested another avenue for me to look into. Tha's progress
19:45.02cbeauthanks!
19:46.35cbeaui love my n900 but there are two things bothering me now: the wireless situation and the fact that its cpu is getting on the old side... it'd like a bit more juice. But still there are absolutely no good replacement for it on the market. that's why I've got 2 and the second will be my backup when this one dies
19:47.15Sicelohttp://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2014-February/017369.html << might give you an idea what to look for in connection with the certificate
19:48.35cbeautnx
19:49.36Sicelofor cpu, try thumb on your 2nd device and see if it performs better :)
19:50.26Siceloothers overclock, but there are differing views about the pros and cons
19:50.44Sicelobtw, maybe this convo should have moved to #maemo
19:53.28kerioholy shit you're worried about the cpu but not the nonexistance of ram?
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19:58.22freemangordonPali: I'm going to try to RE sscd, any hints? is there any x86 binary you're aware of, even not from Maemo
19:59.21Palifreemangordon: I do not know about any x86 sscd binary
20:01.13Palifreemangordon: anyway, see list what to RE: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/#maemo.2014-08-23.log.html#t2014-08-23T15:49:43
20:02.38freemangordonPali: hmm, usb status plugin should be easy, what is the .so name?
20:03.24Palifreemangordon: /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/usb_plugin.so
20:03.35Palipackage: hildon-status-bar-usb_2.1.99-25-12+0m5_armel.deb
20:03.39freemangordonthanks
20:04.07Paliit is armel only
20:04.21freemangordonyeah
20:04.24Palisecond rtcom packages have also i386 binaries
20:05.04Paliand header C files are available in nokia-binaries repo
20:05.32freemangordonhmm, usb plugin is 22k, should be doable in a wek or so
20:06.49Paliand that two rtcom libraries?
20:06.58Palihow hard it is?
20:07.34freemangordonlemme check
20:08.38freemangordonlibgtalk-plugin is 12k x86 binary, a piece of cake
20:08.45freemangordonI'll start with it
20:09.31freemangordonjabber plugin is 18k
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21:00.55sixwheeledbeastjabber is annoying on maemo. no priority settings for a start
21:13.45Palisixwheeledbeast: this is reason for RE
21:13.53sixwheeledbeast\o/
21:14.03keriofreemangordon: did you get the leaked hex-rays for arm
21:14.05Palisee: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/#maemo.2014-08-23.log.html#t2014-08-23T15:49:43
21:16.17freemangordonkerio: no :(
21:16.36freemangordonis there leaked hexrays for ARM?
21:16.55kerioapparently!
21:17.03keriocan't remember who said so
21:17.07keriohere or in #maemo
21:18.45freemangordonkerio: please remember
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21:20.27keriojust look for it on the internet gawd
21:23.25kerioit's on what.cd at the very least
21:54.54sixwheeledbeastwhile we are on about jabber did anyone find any more information about my availability not working issue?
21:56.41Palisixwheeledbeast: what?
21:58.15sixwheeledbeasthttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93553 basically "my availability" doesn't work any more
21:58.38sixwheeledbeastso status message in jabber is blank.
22:03.12PaliI never used that function
22:03.22Palimaybe again some problem with certman/certificates?
22:32.01sixwheeledbeastHmm, actually I found one that expired 24 october 2013 in certman. The thing is you can't change the time and date to test if it is the cert.
22:33.19sixwheeledbeastoh there's a valid duplicate self signed one with the same name
22:38.30freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: you can try to remove the expired one
22:38.47freemangordonwith certman or whatever the binary name was
22:39.07sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon: will that help? the certman app in settings?
22:39.34freemangordonhmm, I don;t think you can remove certificates from settings
22:39.42freemangordoncertman is a CLI tool
22:40.04freemangordonhmm, wrong name, lemme try to find the correct one
22:40.18freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: cmcli
22:40.33sixwheeledbeastah ok I can try it.
22:41.07freemangordonit should be in common-ca
23:15.12sixwheeledbeastit only shows one cert, the cmcli help file isn't great but I guess "cmcli -T common-ca -L" should show my two certs?
23:17.24freemangordonI think so
23:18.03freemangordonkerio: yep, there is leaked arm decompiler
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23:41.28sixwheeledbeasthmm, I can't seem to remove it. "cmcli -c common-ca -r <key number>" maybe I'll play about in the morning while awake.
23:47.27freemangordonYAY!!! ARM hexrays works :D

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