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22:09.48kerioDocScrutinizer05: what happened now?
22:11.08DocScrutinizer05maemo at large sucks, ruled by idiots
22:11.35DocScrutinizer05I'm too old for this kindergarden where councilers candidtae for fun and think rules are some relic
22:16.40DocScrutinizer05the two most awesome¡ people of community, win7mac and chemist, gang up with woody who turned insane a few months after he and me cooperated to get Rob out of HiFo to regain control of it. They talk a council consisting of inexperienced and misguided members into self destruction, and they install an all-new brilliant better "democracy" that moves voting away from community and towards some hand-pciked "general assembly" of a half a
22:16.42DocScrutinizer05dozen (paying?) members, and they call this an *improvement*
22:18.01DocScrutinizer05while they call me "toxic" for pointing at maemo council and election rules since 6 months
22:18.32DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1437991&postcount=41
22:19.59DocScrutinizer05>>What joerg refers to as rules are assignments or even obligations and the election rules. But, the only rules council has are the council election rules, nothing more nothing less. Assignments or obligations are matter of negotiation with people up the chain of command. That used to be Nokia and Nokia's Community Contact, is HiFo (which never cared much what council pulled off as long as it is legal and funded) and soon will be MCeV.
22:20.07DocScrutinizer05<<
22:20.52DocScrutinizer05only that Nokia NEVER had a saying in council, and even assigned decisions like hiring maintainers etc to council, while Nokia paid for it.
22:21.21DocScrutinizer05for a good reason council elections are twice a year
22:22.05DocScrutinizer05now all this shall get moved to HiFo or that damn MCeV nobody really asked for and nobody authorized, particularly not THE COMMUNITY
22:22.56DocScrutinizer05and MCeV conveniently gets elected for a lifetime basically, at least since they can decide on their own electorate aka "general assembly"
22:23.48DocScrutinizer05and to make their paradise perfect, they now abolish or enslave council
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22:33.42DocScrutinizer05cya some other day
22:33.44*** part/#maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg)
23:26.13bencohwtf ? :/

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