IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20140820

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08:19.50*** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2014-01-01): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1; Stable(2013-06-18): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1
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14:44.23DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast1: particularly installing to different stock maemo5 and old cssu-s systems needs testing
14:44.36DocScrutinizer05the installing process itself
14:46.59DocScrutinizer05under several particular situations like: low free storage, poor connectivity, whatever package installs user added on top of bare cssu-s, maybe even installing on top of cssu-t, aso
14:49.08DocScrutinizer05worst thing to happen: our testing just covered a niche case (e.g. fresh flash) and 90% of users run into trouble since their more complex situation isn't tested neither working. Icing on top: breaks system and no way to recover - except fresh install from scratch
14:51.09DocScrutinizer05any *minor* bugs that just show up after update with *running* the system can get fixed by a simple rollout of an updated bugfixed version
14:52.26DocScrutinizer05(though of course no such bugs are supposed to show up in STABLE. That's why we got cssu-testing to spot them all so they don't make it to stable)
14:53.22DocScrutinizer05*installing* however is a different story, since the crap like e.g. MP is all new and untested for this particular cssu-s
14:54.53DocScrutinizer05what we need isn't 25 days of running the new stable version, but 25 installs/updates done on 25 different systems
14:56.17DocScrutinizer05stuff like "ill it install with and without uSD inserted?", "will it install when only 500MB free on /home ?" etc
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16:10.05sixwheeledbeast1well two upgrades here one with a sim and uSD, one without either. Merlin has tested from a fresh pr1.3.1 system. I fail to see how to test every variant of system without loads of testers all with different setups. I would think most people willing to install a pre-stable are using testing anyway.
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16:32.52DocScrutinizer05the 'trick' is to get a number of proper full backups of systems in different states of update/storage/installed-apps. Then have cssu-s update run on every of them
16:33.25DocScrutinizer05BM is crucial for that
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