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| 05:19.42 | merlin1991 | hm I can't grock why this "if (!section)" is faster than this "if (section == NULL)" |
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| 07:17.58 | freemangordon_ | merlin1991: not necessarily, depends on the compiler |
| 07:18.43 | freemangordon_ | but (x == NULL) needs comparison |
| 07:19.10 | freemangordon_ | while !x could use CPU flags |
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| 10:32.16 | freemangordon | hmm, you know what? I was able to speed apt-worker time to 7 seconds, with extras-devel enabled |
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| 10:35.48 | Raimu | How? |
| 10:36.18 | freemangordon | Raimu: wait some 30 minutes to push the changes on gitorious |
| 10:36.31 | Raimu | :) |
| 11:00.35 | Mark__T | Can anyone using thumb2 test if they get "Aborted" when using Abiword (and doing File->Open) |
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| 11:07.47 | freemangordon | Raimu: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/commit/35c6a3a8ce524ab91a6b87fb48db94c0501fdcd2 |
| 11:07.58 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: merlin1991:^^^ |
| 11:10.04 | freemangordon | I guess I can shave off about 1-2 more seconds, but want that one tested first |
| 11:24.39 | Mark__T | unfortunatly abiword doesn't come with debugsymbols, so that is all I get: http://pastebin.ca/2531290 |
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| 11:58.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: I can't build stuff here |
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| 12:07.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: I just thought that the sb x86-emu (xephyr) emulates a (more or less) complete fremantle. So could you please check which else of the x86 binaries we can't build for armel yet? |
| 12:08.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | it seems we would need all of them RE'ed to make fremantle run on other platforms - assuming x86 is a vastly different platform than ARM |
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| 12:38.27 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I'd rather have some priority of those binaries, blindly doing RE is not smart IMO |
| 12:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, sorry? what priority, which binaries? |
| 12:39.24 | freemangordon | 14:06 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: I just thought that the sb x86-emu (xephyr) emulates a (more or less) complete fremantle. So could you please check which else of the x86 binaries we can't build for armel yet? |
| 12:39.43 | freemangordon | there are lots of AFAIK |
| 12:40.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, probably |
| 12:40.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what you're asking for? a priority list? |
| 12:40.38 | freemangordon | Mark__T: install libc libgmodule and libgnomevfs debug symbols |
| 12:41.07 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: rather a list with a "must have the source code" binaries |
| 12:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I can't do such list, I'm not in sw development, I don't even have a working scratchbox installation here |
| 12:42.24 | freemangordon | Mark__T: most probably you'll need newer gdb to successfully debug thumb binaries, fortunately I pushed such gdb in extras-devel some time ago |
| 12:42.59 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: a list of armel binaries will do the job as well, I can check if those have x86 counterpads |
| 12:43.11 | freemangordon | conterparts even |
| 12:43.20 | freemangordon | shit :( |
| 12:43.25 | freemangordon | anyway |
| 12:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | first approach I'd check which binaries on sb-x86 target get installed from nokia repo resp come with sb and are not available as sourcecode, then grep all of them for any references to /dev or /sys |
| 12:43.59 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: not eveything in nika-binaries repo gets installed in SB |
| 12:44.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's why I said "*get installed* from nokia repo" |
| 12:44.56 | Mark__T | freemangordon: will try |
| 12:45.23 | Mark__T | freemangordon: can take a while flaky wlan here |
| 12:45.36 | freemangordon | so the better approach is to make a list of "must have" bins, then check if there is x86 binary. REed eveything just for the sake of it is not good IMO |
| 12:45.45 | freemangordon | my parents have only one son ;) |
| 12:45.45 | freemangordon | Mark__T: np |
| 12:46.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think the above approach is exactly to get such list of must-have binaries |
| 12:46.41 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: don;t we have that list prepared by jonwil? |
| 12:47.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I don't know |
| 12:47.17 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, gtg, bbl |
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| 12:57.43 | peetah | does "ohmd[1048]: GLIB ERROR ** default - module videoep failed to load but listed in require aborting" ring a bell to anyone ? that's what causing the reboot loop of my n900 when the system-services package above version 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 is installed |
| 12:57.57 | peetah | I currently run the CSSU T9.1 but with the 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 version of system-services instead of the 0.3.8-68+0cssu7 included in CSSU T9.1 |
| 12:58.09 | peetah | as soon as I upgrade this package to any superior version, the boot loop is back |
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| 13:14.53 | sixwheeledbeast | peetah: I have seen this issue reported before re system-services. check /etc/fstab and blkid IIRC it's related to easy-debian and partitions I'd have to check through my PM's and e-mails |
| 13:17.34 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: it's been a long time since I removed easy-debian: my fstab and blkid are now quite basic |
| 13:18.02 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: but if you find any clue in your PM's and e-mails, I'll take it thanks |
| 13:23.20 | sixwheeledbeast | peetah: fw190 on TMO had the same issue, I will look when I get a minute. can you pastebin the above? |
| 13:24.06 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: I read your reply on the flopswap thread, and it was about the device swap partition having a UUID |
| 13:26.20 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: http://pastealacon.com/33747 |
| 13:27.53 | peetah | but this is what is set when using 0.3.8-68+0cssu0: give me a moment to upgrade, boot with backupmenu et get the files generated by 0.3.8-68+0cssu7 version |
| 13:29.48 | sixwheeledbeast | I'll have to get back to work, I'll check later and see if I found a reason only fw190 was effected. Do you use FlopSwap BTW? |
| 13:30.48 | peetah | I used to, but as I told you somewhere is the flopswap thread (user pierrem) , since 1 or 2 version it does not use the sd swaps after reboot |
| 13:31.12 | peetah | s/is/in/ |
| 13:36.23 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: here they are with 0.3.8-68+0cssu7: http://pastealacon.com/33748 |
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| 15:12.25 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: any ideas how to test the ham code? |
| 15:12.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm? git clone xxx;dpkg-buildpackage |
| 15:12.55 | freemangordon | :P |
| 15:13.11 | merlin1991 | yeah but that isn't really a distinct test case |
| 15:13.26 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I did it by comparing the available applications/updates between 2 devices |
| 15:13.31 | merlin1991 | let's write some unit tests for apt-worker lulz |
| 15:13.44 | freemangordon | one with those patches and one without |
| 15:13.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991: there are some tests |
| 15:14.08 | merlin1991 | yeah but imagine attempting to get 100% coverage |
| 15:15.01 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I'd rather push in cssu-devel and wait for feedback |
| 15:16.28 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW I'll try to reduce that time a bit more when I am back home and will push to cssu-devel (no matter if I fail) |
| 15:16.58 | merlin1991 | semi fast ham, that's going to be fun thing on tmo when it comes out xD |
| 15:17.06 | freemangordon | I guess reduction from 111s to 6s is a big win :D |
| 15:17.15 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
| 15:17.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW if you have some spare time, please fix the changelog |
| 15:17.42 | merlin1991 | what's wrong with it? |
| 15:17.50 | freemangordon | nothing |
| 15:18.05 | freemangordon | it is just missing the new version |
| 15:18.17 | freemangordon | (the one that will be pushed to -devel) |
| 15:18.25 | freemangordon | the same for fmtx middleware |
| 15:18.39 | merlin1991 | ah ham debian/changelog I was mentally here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog |
| 15:19.07 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I am too lazy to add new entries in those 2 changelogs (ham and fmtx-middleware) |
| 15:19.10 | freemangordon | :D |
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| 16:06.22 | sixwheeledbeast | peetah: I looked through my PM's and I didn't get to the bottom of the system-services boot loop fw190 is using an earlier version still. I don't know what user "pierrem" said but if there is any problems with FlopSwap I'd like know and try to fix them. |
| 16:09.53 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: concerning flopswap here is our conversation http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87985&page=16 |
| 16:10.18 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: I am "pierrem" |
| 16:12.03 | sixwheeledbeast | Ah...post 151 |
| 16:14.25 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: yes, sorry I did not precise it was the tmo flopswap thread |
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| 16:18.55 | sixwheeledbeast | peetah: Hmm well yes reading back through, FlopSwap =>0.1.0 will not work correctly a boot for you without fixing your system-services issue. |
| 16:20.59 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: I'm afraid so, and now that I narrowed it down to this videoep module used by ohmd, I hope that someone will be able to help me futher |
| 16:28.05 | sixwheeledbeast | peetah: ohmd is stock AFAIK and not touched by CSSU. That sounds like possible corruption, have you tried the latest fsck DO NOT use the stock maemo one. |
| 16:28.33 | sixwheeledbeast | or maybe someone can help from the CSSU team if you have a syslog. |
| 16:28.52 | peetah | I reinstalled ohm and ohm-plugins-misc packages but did not fsck |
| 16:29.26 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/syslog |
| 16:30.48 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: yes, the syslog is here: http://pastealacon.com/33750 |
| 16:36.02 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: tmo user rdorsh had the same issue, but pali on tmo and, I think I also read irc log involving DocScrutinizer05 , both told him that there were a file system corruption and the guy just flashed its device |
| 16:36.15 | sixwheeledbeast | yep, this is the thread I found |
| 16:36.20 | sixwheeledbeast | just now |
| 16:36.56 | sixwheeledbeast | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1352219&postcount=43 |
| 16:37.33 | peetah | but I would rather not: the simple fact that it works with a previous version of system-services tells me that I must have done something wrong somewhere while experimenting sometimes ago, thus it should be reversible |
| 16:38.30 | sixwheeledbeast | do you have a backup <T8.x |
| 16:38.34 | peetah | and since it does not seem to raise any important issue except for flopswap, I'll continue digging |
| 16:39.02 | sixwheeledbeast | I would say it's the same corruption issue |
| 16:39.49 | peetah | When the prolem arose first, meaning when the new upstart system was introduced, I used previous backup, but each upgrade provoked the same effect |
| 16:40.32 | peetah | anyway I will fsck the partition to be sure |
| 16:41.27 | peetah | and to answer your question, no I don't have pre T8.x backups anymore |
| 16:51.59 | sixwheeledbeast | peetah: IIRC the issue was T8.0 enabled fsck on boot which stock fsck was buggy. This caused NFS stale and other issues for some. All this is now fixed AFAIK. I can't see how upstart is to blame looking at the error in syslog. |
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| 20:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: the issue was more like T8.0 did NOT run fsck during boot |
| 20:21.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 20:21.10 | sixwheeledbeast | Not AFAIK |
| 20:21.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | since pali assumed fsck shouldn't get run unattended and would happen pretty rarely |
| 20:22.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | a lot of people had broken fs then, since unclean shutdown is not as rare as assumed |
| 20:23.25 | sixwheeledbeast | See changelog - T8.0 - added fsck option in mount-opts. T8.1 - do not run fsck, fixed booting with SD card inserted |
| 20:24.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, then that's been 8.1, was even worse than 8.0, I guess |
| 20:24.53 | sixwheeledbeast | then T9 has fixed fsck for ext partitions and reenabled fsck on boot |
| 20:25.34 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo8 |
| 20:25.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds about correct, except we are on 8.3 right now, not 9 |
| 20:25.42 | sixwheeledbeast | T9.1 I believe |
| 20:25.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least according to topic |
| 20:26.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy |
| 20:26.08 | sixwheeledbeast | took 4 month to update stable on /topic |
| 20:26.29 | sixwheeledbeast | after mentioned it ;) |
| 20:26.44 | sixwheeledbeast | s/after/after I |
| 20:26.58 | peetah | sixwheeledbeast: by the way, my partitions are ok, so I'm back with "ohmd failing to load videoep" |
| 20:27.40 | peetah | except if the issue comes from the ubifs root partition: this one I don't know how to verify it |
| 20:27.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-01-07 21:27:45] [Notice] -ChanServ- Flags +Aiortv were set on sixwheeledbeast in #maemo-ssu. |
| 20:28.09 | sixwheeledbeast | :) lol |
| 20:30.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv help |
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| 20:30.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv help flags |
| 20:31.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv help op |
| 20:32.02 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by ChanServ -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2014-01-01): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1; Stable(2013-06-18): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1 |
| 20:32.23 | sixwheeledbeast | never done that before :D |
| 20:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | np |
| 20:32.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv op #maemo-ssu |
| 20:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | /topic <new-topic> |
| 20:33.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv deop #maemo-ssu |
| 20:34.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you have a client that has a convenient textedit box option to edit topic |
| 20:34.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno purple |
| 20:34.52 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: I will have to research OP on channels now :D oh pidgin has text box thing :) |
| 20:35.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 20:36.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://toxin.jottit.com/freenode_chanserv_commands#cs03 |
| 20:39.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | research Op on channels? |
| 20:39.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv op #maemo-ssu |
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| 20:39.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv deop #maemo-ssu |
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| 20:39.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv deop #maemo-ssu sixwheeledbeast |
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| 20:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | /msg chanserv op #maemo-ssu sixwheeledbeast |
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| 20:52.32 | sixwheeledbeast | Well that was good .... pidgin crashed |
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| 23:28.59 | freemangordon | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1404666&postcount=289 |