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07:54.22 | Pali | gitorious is not working again |
07:54.27 | Pali | it reject me to push anything |
07:54.34 | Pali | "Access denied or wrong repository path" |
08:53.31 | Pali | gitorious started working |
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10:07.31 | Pali | FatPhil: ping |
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11:41.44 | FatPhil | Pali: pong! |
11:49.48 | freemangordon | Pali: maybe we shoud switch to github |
11:50.21 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW maybe you should rebase linux to 3.11 or 3.12 |
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11:52.06 | nedko | maemo for workgroups :) |
11:54.32 | freemangordon | FatPhil: hi! Do you have some 3.x rx51 tree by chance :)? |
11:55.03 | freemangordon | nedko: hmm? |
11:55.12 | freemangordon | win311? |
11:56.02 | nedko | freemangordon: yes, linux-3.11 codename is "Linux for Workgroups" |
11:56.28 | freemangordon | omg, really? heh |
11:56.47 | nedko | yes, check in /Makefile line 5 :) |
12:01.17 | FatPhil | freemangordon: I did find a rather strange 2.6.3x rx-51 tree. I have no idea why it existed. |
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13:10.45 | oooaaaooo | hi guys im trying to install the cssu by clicking on the link on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU but HAM says "community-ssu-enabler" already installed |
13:13.14 | thedead1440 | oooaaaooo: it means you already have it; are you sure you don't have CSSU? |
13:14.23 | oooaaaooo | it had stalled the last time i tried to update it for some reason or another and when i restarted the phone the maemo "cube" wasnt available on my desktop |
13:14.35 | oooaaaooo | failed to download the 23mb package |
13:17.51 | thedead1440 | you may want to do refresh catalogues (or is it called update?) in HAM to allow it to complete the download/installation |
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13:19.40 | oooaaaooo | thedead1440: which catalogs are related to cssu? |
13:20.21 | thedead1440 | no i mean HAM has an update option; click on it for it to update the catalogues and present to you any updates which would complete the installation |
13:20.50 | oooaaaooo | thedead1440: yeah but i would like to disable the non related catalogs to speed up the process |
13:21.38 | thedead1440 | why mess with the catalogues? You clicked on the .install file right? It set up the catalogues for you. All you need to do now is allow HAM to complete the job instead of finding some shortcut which won't help most probably |
13:21.56 | oooaaaooo | i had non-standard catalogs installed before |
13:22.14 | oooaaaooo | and before coming in here i disabled some of them |
13:22.35 | thedead1440 | sigh... just let HAM handle it instead of speculating... |
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13:27.48 | oooaaaooo | thedead1440: i have both testing and normal catalogues installed |
13:27.52 | oooaaaooo | thedead1440: lol |
13:28.18 | oooaaaooo | i see a maemo5 CSSU package(thumb) update |
13:28.27 | oooaaaooo | i guess i install that |
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14:05.24 | Pali | FatPhil: 2.6.3x rx-51 tree is on meego gitorious and was there was n900 meego support |
14:06.03 | Pali | FatPhil: what I wanted to ask: is there any (nokia) tool for memory leak statistics? |
14:06.53 | Pali | I want to fix some mem leaks bugs in some application, I already used valgrind - but it does not show statictic - instead for every memleak show message |
14:07.11 | Pali | and if there are 10000 leaks, it is not possible to read valgrind output... |
14:07.48 | Pali | sailus: ping |
14:07.59 | Pali | freemangordon: ping |
14:14.17 | discopig | hi |
14:16.24 | FatPhil | Pali: we had some scripts for that, I thought they were available from meego context |
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14:16.59 | Pali | FatPhil: if these scripts/tools are open source, can you give me link or at least name of tools? |
14:17.11 | Pali | what I found is: https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/sp-memusage |
14:17.31 | Pali | (and sources are in maemo SDK repo) |
14:17.32 | FatPhil | sp-* yup, that's what we used |
14:18.00 | FatPhil | Well, there was a separate dedicated team using that |
14:18.00 | Pali | what does *sp* means? |
14:18.22 | FatPhil | named after the system performance team, perhaps? |
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14:19.02 | FatPhil | We're gaining one of that team here next week, I can ask him if he has any insights (but I leave here in 2 weeks...) |
14:19.07 | Pali | ok, I will try to compile that tool for x86-64 and try to use it :-) |
14:21.05 | Pali | sailus: freemangordon trying to get both n900 cameras working with 3.11 kernel, but he only see green output in mplayer |
14:21.18 | jonwil | ok, just updated http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_dbus with some more info about com.nokia.phone.SSC |
14:21.21 | Pali | sailus: do you have any idea why? |
14:22.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | LAST FAMOUS WORDS: |
14:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-09-16 15:28:18] <oooaaaooo> i see a maemo5 CSSU package(thumb) update |
14:22.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-09-16 15:28:27] <oooaaaooo> i guess i install that |
14:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-09-16 16:01:34] <-- oooaaaooo has left this channel. |
14:23.16 | jonwil | We now have what in theory should be correct prototypes for all the cellular DBUS interfaces that we need to care about for Neo900 |
14:23.28 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: lol |
14:24.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually "famous last words" |
14:24.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs more coffee |
14:27.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: \o/ |
14:30.21 | jonwil | we still need to figure out all the arguments etc |
14:30.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | dammit, the http://www.cncmods.net/files/dbus/ssc.xml link on http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_dbus a) should rather point to another wiki page inside wmo, and b) of course doesn't render at all on my konqueror |
14:30.29 | jonwil | but its a start |
14:30.58 | nedko | DocScrutinizer05: i'd like to make that page asciidoc |
14:31.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/dbus |
14:31.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | sidenote ^^^ |
14:32.26 | jonwil | if you want to improve the N900_dbus page, feel free :) |
14:32.51 | nedko | i also try to document the daemons that register the dbus names |
14:32.56 | nedko | there are two of them |
14:33.05 | nedko | got csd |
14:33.09 | nedko | for csd |
14:34.11 | jonwil | everything on that page under Cellular functionality comes from the csd daemon and its plugins except com.nokia.phone.SSC |
14:34.15 | jonwil | com.nokia.phone.SSC comes from sscd |
14:34.48 | nedko | not on my n900 :] |
14:35.08 | nedko | meh |
14:35.14 | nedko | shame |
14:35.18 | jonwil | meh what? |
14:35.18 | nedko | same on my n900 |
14:35.23 | nedko | sorry |
14:35.26 | jonwil | ok |
14:40.24 | jonwil | let me identify who is using each of the relavent dbus interfaces :) |
14:41.24 | jonwil | cellular functionality is definatly the hardest part of this whole jigsaw puzzle, audio and GPS are next hardest |
14:41.50 | jonwil | Audio is only hard because of the need to deal with all the various closed-source bits in the system |
14:42.12 | jonwil | and how those things will change as a result of the differences in the audio system on N900 vs Neo900 |
14:42.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohyeah :-S |
14:43.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still undecided if we shouldn't rather try to get the AIC32xxxx mixer into Neo900 hw |
14:43.46 | jonwil | ok, so on the current GTA04 hardware, are there any binary kernel bits required? |
14:44.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, I missed to "bookmark" the quote from FatPhil(?) about OMAP audio and the SiErr(?) it had in every single function |
14:53.18 | jonwil | oh btw for pulseaudio we should maybe see what the meego/mer/nemo/whatever its called these days/etc guys are doing with the N900 stuff and see what pulseaudio bits they are using |
14:53.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | (([2013-09-12 13:59:59] <FatPhil> Peter Ujfalusi once gave...)) found it. :-) |
15:02.15 | Pali | FatPhil: sp-memusage does not have any memleak detector |
15:02.22 | FatPhil | sp-endurance |
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15:03.11 | FatPhil | very coarse grained, but can tell you if there's a leak or not |
15:06.01 | FatPhil | I'm pretty sure I was able to link with Electric Fence |
15:08.28 | FatPhil | Hmm, maybe that doesn't help with leaks, I've forgotten. |
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16:17.54 | jonwil | I doubt anyone outside of Nokia will ever be able to figure out what com.nokia.phone.sim.get_service_provider_info actually does |
16:28.59 | dos1 | what does it return? |
16:30.31 | jonwil | 'som numbers whos purpose I have never figured out |
16:30.36 | jonwil | some |
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16:43.43 | sixwheeledbeast | Pali: If I wish to have swap on uSD do I just 'echo swap_sd="1" >> /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite'. Which update in "cssu-devel" provides this? |
16:44.55 | Pali | sixwheeledbeast: that option will automatically enable all swap partitions on SD card during boot + it adds them to /etc/fstab |
16:54.52 | sixwheeledbeast | Pali: Yep, I have edited mount-ops and tested this but noticed the comments at the start of the file. Will this edit to mount-opts-overwrite work on all CSSU versions? |
16:55.55 | Pali | sixwheeledbeast: all cssu versions which support swap_sd support also overwrite file |
16:56.14 | Pali | sixwheeledbeast: and you really do not edit mount-opts file! |
16:56.37 | Pali | it can cause problems when updating via HAM |
16:56.53 | Pali | or problems if you do not answer Y when updating via apt-get |
16:57.46 | sixwheeledbeast | I realise that from reading comment at stop of /etc/fstab ;) You don't happen to know which versions support it? |
17:06.16 | freemangordon_ | Pali: pong |
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18:02.41 | wiredless | haven't been here since nokia 770 days |
18:10.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, wellcome back. I just wonder if this channel even existed at 770 times |
18:13.49 | wiredless | think it did i could be wrong |
18:14.16 | wiredless | any idea if urho kontorri comes in here |
18:14.54 | wiredless | he made theme maker for maemo |
18:16.23 | wiredless | i know he wound up going to work for nokia |
18:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | haven't "seen" kontorri for quite a while |
18:18.32 | wiredless | hope he still has a job |
18:18.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen kontorri |
18:18.47 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i haven't seen 'kontorri' |
18:19.28 | wiredless | so whats the newest hot hardware for maemo? |
18:19.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, existing or projected? |
18:20.13 | wiredless | something you can buy now |
18:20.26 | FatPhil | 2nd hand n900s |
18:20.34 | wiredless | i see |
18:20.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | depending on your definition of "maemo" a N900 or a N9 |
18:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | some say N9 runs maemo6, some say it runs meego, some say it doesn't run at all |
18:21.26 | FatPhil | well, you want a keyboard, so N950, perhaps? |
18:21.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | hard to buy ;-) |
18:21.59 | wiredless | heh |
18:22.07 | FatPhil | true, rare as rocking-horse shit |
18:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | also see www.neo900.org |
18:22.45 | freemangordon | FatPhil: IMO n900 has better KBD than N950 |
18:22.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | born from a widespread frustration about that situation |
18:23.18 | freemangordon | not to say that opening n950's kbd is a nightmare. and impossible to be done with one hand |
18:23.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ack, n950 kbd is *cough* |
18:23.53 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, could our ssi problem be related to mux configuration? |
18:23.57 | freemangordon | going to try it |
18:25.19 | Pali | maybe |
18:29.21 | FatPhil | freemangordon: agree |
18:35.56 | freemangordon | Pali: DocScrutinizer05: FatPhil: please verify http://pastebin.com/aAULuuyc |
18:36.34 | freemangordon | the last comment is /* ssi1_wake */ |
18:38.51 | FatPhil | freemangordon: see http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg96880.html |
18:39.19 | wiredless | keep the faith |
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18:40.03 | freemangordon | FatPhil: hmm? some type correction |
18:40.21 | freemangordon | FatPhil: elaborate please |
18:40.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: huh? |
18:42.06 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I am almost sure mux is set for UART, not SSI |
18:42.24 | freemangordon | that is why modem does not work |
18:42.39 | freemangordon | FatPhil: s/type/typo/ |
18:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: sorry, can't tell from that snippet |
18:44.03 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: look at schematic, names are there |
18:44.22 | freemangordon | omap to rapu bus |
18:44.38 | freemangordon | FatPhil: oh, got it, we have that typo :) |
18:44.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | when the names match with schematics, then I guess it's correct. Yes |
18:45.10 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I wanted you to check if they mach, along with inpto/output flags |
18:45.31 | freemangordon | I just wrote that snippet and want someone else to verify if it is correct |
18:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, a tad under timing constraints right now |
18:45.47 | freemangordon | sure, np |
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18:46.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can only speculate what your code snippet does. Looks to me as if the mux is set to mode1 for all pinds listed there |
18:47.06 | freemangordon | yep |
18:47.14 | freemangordon | mode 0 is UART |
18:47.24 | freemangordon | mode 1 *should* be SSI |
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18:51.08 | freemangordon | data is missing from TRM, but is in the kernel code |
18:53.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: yes, from a cursory check that code snippet looks fine |
18:53.25 | freemangordon | thanks |
18:53.32 | freemangordon | booting it, lets see |
18:53.34 | freemangordon | :D |
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19:12.42 | freemangordon | hmm: |
19:12.44 | freemangordon | /* gpio_74 */ |
19:12.44 | freemangordon | OMAP3_MUX(DSS_DATA4, OMAP_PIN_INPUT_PULLDOWN | OMAP_MUX_MODE4), |
19:12.57 | freemangordon | this is supposed to be CMT_EN |
19:17.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, and output, according to schematics |
19:17.35 | freemangordon | :nod: |
19:17.46 | freemangordon | I think all gpios are messed :( |
19:21.01 | freemangordon | but how is that possible, it is set as OMAP_GPIO_SWITCH_FLAG_OUTPUT in the board code :( |
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19:48.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: when you're done with the work and have a beer, you *might* ponder about putting ETM into purpose, so you could tell who's doing what when |
19:49.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMAP's Embedded Trace Macrocell is a nifty thing, and a pity to not exploit it |
19:55.19 | FatPhil | ETM is available in the harmattan kernel tree |
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20:24.35 | Pali | freemangordon: gpios are exported via sysfs and more maemo daemons setting them |
20:24.50 | Pali | also omap gpio switch driver doing something... |
20:25.17 | freemangordon | Pali: I think it is NOLO that sets lots of things |
20:25.33 | Pali | yes and uboot setting someting too |
20:25.41 | freemangordon | however, having SSI gpios set to UART mode doesn;t look correct to me |
20:27.09 | Pali | freemangordon: look here: https://elektranox.org/n900/libisi/power.html |
20:27.59 | freemangordon | Pali: yes, I have similar script |
20:28.04 | freemangordon | and this is what sscd does |
20:28.20 | freemangordon | but if gpios are not se correctly... ;) |
20:29.38 | Pali | freemangordon: look at data for omap gpio switch driver |
20:30.12 | freemangordon | Pali: it is not enough, mux have to be st too |
20:30.16 | freemangordon | *set |
20:30.27 | Pali | because OMAP atag table is not in kernel anymore I copied gpio data from NOLO atags directly to rx51 board code for omap gpio driver |
20:30.27 | Pali | and maybe there is some copy paste error |
20:30.43 | Pali | btw same data should be in u-boot |
20:30.45 | Pali | mux are set by uboot too |
20:30.57 | Pali | maybe kernel resetting them now? |
20:31.01 | freemangordon | Pali: SSI is not a public interface |
20:31.05 | freemangordon | Pali: :nod: |
20:31.13 | freemangordon | look at serial.c |
20:31.55 | freemangordon | serial driver sets all 4 uart pins to uart mode if they are in default state |
20:32.00 | freemangordon | s/pins/devices/ |
20:32.15 | freemangordon | but ssi shares pins with uart1 |
20:32.35 | freemangordon | so board code should tell the mux to put the in ssi mode |
20:32.54 | freemangordon | tha same for mcbsp4 |
20:33.50 | freemangordon | Pali: do you have KP compiled with debugfs enabled? |
20:34.08 | Pali | kp should have debugfs |
20:34.34 | freemangordon | well, 3.x has more info :) |
20:35.23 | freemangordon | Pali: where to look for your "copied" gpois? |
20:35.38 | freemangordon | gpios* |
20:35.47 | Pali | board-rx51-peripherals.c |
20:35.49 | Pali | at begining |
20:36.34 | Pali | freemangordon: look also here: https://gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_nokia-n900-configs/source/372022b4f463771534625dde7d714cad071fcea7:nokia-n900-configs.sh |
20:36.41 | freemangordon | Pali: rx51_gpio_switches? |
20:36.45 | Pali | yes |
20:37.23 | freemangordon | ok, I'll try this script |
20:37.39 | freemangordon | but I guess the board code should do the same |
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21:11.07 | freemangordon | Pali: do you have whole atags gpio data? |
21:11.19 | Pali | it is in uboot |
21:11.30 | freemangordon | link? |
21:11.55 | Pali | http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=board/nokia/rx51/rx51.c;h=3e419efe395fdd777447f53799b1df8828f7f476;hb=HEAD |
21:12.00 | freemangordon | thanks |
21:12.25 | FatPhil | woh - I just tried building the kernel from kernel-source_2.6.28-20103103+0m5_all.deb and it FTB! |
21:14.47 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, seems u-boot doesn;t do much |
21:14.58 | freemangordon | I guess it is NOLO that sets SSI lines |
21:15.31 | Pali | and 3.x kernel resets them? |
21:15.43 | freemangordon | most probably |
21:15.49 | Pali | ah :-( |
21:16.00 | freemangordon | makes sense :) |
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21:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: yep, definitely NOLO talking to BB% already |
21:36.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | BB5 |
21:37.35 | Sicelo | ~ftb |
21:37.36 | infobot | F The But |
21:38.27 | freemangordon | hmm, maybe I should hack in the mux code and printk if there is a difference in what it tries to set compared to what is already thre |
21:38.30 | freemangordon | *there |
21:38.38 | freemangordon | I bet it will be fun :) |
21:40.10 | freemangordon | oh, we already have that CONFIG_OMAP_MUX_WARNINGS |
21:43.21 | FatPhil | FTB = fails to build |
21:44.12 | FatPhil | <PROTECTED> |
21:44.12 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.c: In function 'copy_tgt_strings': |
21:44.12 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.c:1478: warning: "dlthis" is not defined |
21:44.12 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.c:1478: error: token "->" is not valid in preprocessor expressions |
21:44.15 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.c:1489: warning: "dlthis" is not defined |
21:44.18 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.c:1489: error: token "->" is not valid in preprocessor expressions |
21:44.21 | FatPhil | make[2]: *** [drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.o] Error 1 |
21:47.22 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/cload.c:#elif TARGET_ENDIANNESS_DIFFERS(TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN) |
21:47.35 | FatPhil | drivers/dsp/bridge/dynload/dload_internal.h:#define TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN (dlthis->big_e_target) |
21:48.16 | freemangordon | FatPhil: what do you try to build? |
21:48.50 | freemangordon | and where, in SB? |
21:49.26 | freemangordon | also, make sure you use FREMANTLE_ARMEL target, not 386 |
21:49.33 | freemangordon | (if in SB) |
21:51.22 | FatPhil | Just using cross compiler, no scratchbox |
21:51.42 | freemangordon | oh |
21:51.49 | freemangordon | never tried that |
21:53.07 | FatPhil | might be using the wrong compiler... |
22:07.41 | FatPhil | fuck, yeah |
22:07.42 | FatPhil | <PROTECTED> |
22:08.45 | FatPhil | no problems using cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 toolchain |
22:22.31 | freemangordon | Pali: http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=board/nokia/rx51/rx51.h;h=4a230dd596e8b1662c6e6b4b1e9a49559479ab1e;hb=HEAD |
22:22.40 | freemangordon | /* Modem Interface */ |
22:23.51 | Pali | hm |
22:24.00 | freemangordon | ;) |
22:24.27 | Pali | but this needs to be fixed in kernel, right? |
22:24.32 | freemangordon | I think we should put that table in the board data. Someday. |
22:24.34 | freemangordon | yep |
22:24.47 | freemangordon | I'll try to run the modem first |
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22:49.02 | freemangordon | Pali: where did you get that mux config in u-boot from? |
22:49.25 | Pali | it is not mine |
22:49.31 | Pali | it wrote ali |
22:49.41 | freemangordon | oh, yes, I remember |
22:50.04 | Pali | maybe only copied from some TI board |
22:50.15 | freemangordon | :nod: |
22:53.58 | freemangordon | Pali: can you quickly patch KP to dump MUX config? |
22:54.27 | Pali | not now :-( |
22:54.30 | freemangordon | sure |
22:54.32 | freemangordon | :) |
22:54.59 | freemangordon | but we'll need that, I suspect camera problem might be caused by wrong MUC config too |
22:55.06 | freemangordon | *MUX |
23:01.47 | int_ua | freemangordon, can you please suggest any good way to detect -thumb installation from bash? |
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23:08.48 | freemangordon | int_ua: hmm can't think of any easy way. but I am too tired now anyway :) |
23:09.12 | int_ua | ok, me too. Thanks :) |
23:18.08 | FatPhil | proc/cpuinfo |
23:18.35 | FatPhil | Features. |
23:18.38 | freemangordon | FatPhil: hmm, won't work |
23:18.55 | FatPhil | Or at least my stock device doesn't say "thumb", and my CSSU-thumb device does. |
23:19.16 | freemangordon | he wants to check if cssu-thumb is installed iiuc |
23:23.47 | FatPhil | package names have "thumb" in them in dpkg? |
23:33.34 | int_ua | FatPhil, yes, but what package to check? I've deleted mp-fremantle... myself long ago |
23:36.44 | FatPhil | first one from dpkg -l with cssu.*thumb is alarmd |
23:41.16 | int_ua | FatPhil, deleting which package is impossible without completely destructing the system? |
23:42.24 | int_ua | looking into it too |
23:42.50 | int_ua | apt? |
23:43.20 | int_ua | Can't imagine maemo without apt |
23:48.22 | int_ua | FatPhil, thanks for the help :) |
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